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Speaker 1: Fantasy best Friends Forever, m to to do Do Do
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Speaker 1: Do do do do too. Yeah, this is the Fantasy
Speaker 1: best Friends Forever. Here are the Fantasy Sports Your Network,
Speaker 1: alongside Frankie Stample. I am Greg Susan Fran. What's going on, Greggae,
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Monday. Greg. If you didn't know who
Speaker 1: DK metcalf is, you certainly know. Now what are you doing, buddy?
Speaker 1: I'm doing it right, man, I'm doing it right. Weird
Speaker 1: dreams lately, though, weird dreams, So that means you've been sleeping.
Speaker 1: How have you been sleeping? I was up like several
Speaker 1: times last night, but like weird dreams, like I don't
Speaker 1: remember them now, but like I'm just thinking about Matt
Speaker 1: Modica not dreaming that problem. That would be a good dream.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. What's on man? Jump guys, how's you
Speaker 1: going with today? You upgraded from a metsat to a
Speaker 1: twins hat this week? Well, I just saw the poll
Speaker 1: Frank Stample put out where you put out about which one?
Speaker 1: So I figured it was there you go, jas, there
Speaker 1: you go, there it is, there it is. Where's your
Speaker 1: Cincinnati reds hat? Matt? That I do that own one?
Speaker 1: That was not an option, not yet, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1: Being the biggest fan of Luis cast you, I think
Speaker 1: you need one, Maddiemo. Uh, you know what, I guess
Speaker 1: I'd become the biggest fan or his PR spokesman on Twitter.
Speaker 1: At least. It's because I think some of the statements
Speaker 1: that are made about him aren't factually correct or if
Speaker 1: you do an overview, you know there's a lot more
Speaker 1: than that meets the eye. And that's been banging this
Speaker 1: drum for Louis Castio for a while. True story, Matt.
Speaker 1: Last night I was texting Greggy and I said, I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to you and Matt going head to head
Speaker 1: on Louise Castillo because Greg's has been owned Louise Castio.
Speaker 1: Last year he was thoroughly disappointed. And I know again, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're banging that drum, so it gonna be fun. Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. You know what we last last week we
Speaker 1: on Friday, Frankie, we kind of jumped around a lot, right,
Speaker 1: We started going in order with with Nick and then
Speaker 1: when Vetger came up here, we just you know, we
Speaker 1: just jumped all over the place. So I thought, today
Speaker 1: we do the same thing and just jumped all over
Speaker 1: the place. And that's why I want to start. I
Speaker 1: want to start with Louise Castio because when he talked
Speaker 1: about out some of the hot names that are going
Speaker 1: off the board, some of the sexier names, and you
Speaker 1: hear about, um, the Paventas and the shame beavers of
Speaker 1: the world and so wanted, so forth. But those guys
Speaker 1: are going after Louis Castio, who over the last ten
Speaker 1: days or so in the NFBC, Louis Castier is up
Speaker 1: to the pitcher off the board at about pick one twelve. Again,
Speaker 1: that's in the last you know, ten days or so.
Speaker 1: Um in the NFBC, Matt Louis. It's amazing because if
Speaker 1: you didn't own Louise Castio last year. You obviously we
Speaker 1: can say it's for a lot of players. They didn't
Speaker 1: own a guy last year. You have a totally different
Speaker 1: mindset of this player. And when the the end of
Speaker 1: the text message that I said to Frank was Mattery
Speaker 1: knows my arguments, like, I owned this guy through July
Speaker 1: last year, and it was miserable. It was a miserable,
Speaker 1: miserable mirrorretle experience. And I dropped him and I felt
Speaker 1: good about dropping him, and I never looked back. And
Speaker 1: by never looking back, I obviously missed what he did,
Speaker 1: of course in August September when he turned it around.
Speaker 1: But my question for you is what makes you so sure?
Speaker 1: And I don't know how so sure you are? What
Speaker 1: makes you so short that Louise Castio we saw in
Speaker 1: August and September of last year. He's the guy that
Speaker 1: we're going to get from April on this year. I'm
Speaker 1: anxiously awaiting this opportunity. And I did a tweet the
Speaker 1: other day showing, you know, three months of sub three
Speaker 1: e r A by Louis Severino and Louis Castillo and
Speaker 1: the raised north of five for both uh Louis Severino
Speaker 1: and Louis Castillo. One was drafted as an ACE, the
Speaker 1: other was drafted as your second or third starting pitcher.
Speaker 1: One went off the board as they pick last year.
Speaker 1: One was pick. Uh, just real quick. When you look
Speaker 1: at your end of season valuations, Sevno didn't lose that
Speaker 1: much money compared to you know, he lost money, but
Speaker 1: he was pretty much in line of what you would
Speaker 1: have figured him to be. Castillo gets crushed in the
Speaker 1: end of season uh. Value relations. My point is if
Speaker 1: you had your ace that you basically couldn't use for
Speaker 1: the second half of the season because he had a
Speaker 1: five E r A and a one forty one whip,
Speaker 1: the same whip that still had in his first three
Speaker 1: months that were terrible. That's like you know, having your
Speaker 1: study starting running back who you had a bench for
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, or he gave you
Speaker 1: negative points each week. So I don't think people really
Speaker 1: look at it that way. Uh. Too often they just
Speaker 1: see the end of the season. Well, I had some
Speaker 1: arena for twenty eight. He made twenty three, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. It was really bad because that guy
Speaker 1: was your ACE. Why I'm confident in Louis Castile this
Speaker 1: year is no one argues about his stuff. That's not
Speaker 1: an argument anybody ever makes. The first half, the first
Speaker 1: three months, where he puts to like a five eight five,
Speaker 1: you're already one whip. Uh, the fastball velocity was down
Speaker 1: like a mile and a half almost two miles. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the second half he got the increased of view
Speaker 1: on the fastball. He used the slider and change ten
Speaker 1: percent more while decreasing the fastball. Now he has a
Speaker 1: fastball that you know, we as we sat in the
Speaker 1: second half was almost about ninety seven. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to have control of your command of the fastball.
Speaker 1: Is you know something that really helps a picture. His
Speaker 1: fastball needs to improve. Even though you throw it hard,
Speaker 1: you gotta know where it's going and where it's place it.
Speaker 1: So he's got two pitches that he whips on last year.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of pictures can say that in Major
Speaker 1: League baseball. Is he a guarantee? No, But neither is Barrios,
Speaker 1: neither is Wheeler, and neither is Herman Marquez. I mean
Speaker 1: Marquez out of the foursome, has probably the best skill
Speaker 1: set and he pitched to a sub three e r
Speaker 1: A excuse me, a sub three x FIP at home
Speaker 1: last year. But when you look at the Certifice acts,
Speaker 1: it just shows you how difficult and what a monster
Speaker 1: courses no matter how good you are, of course, can
Speaker 1: still the feed you. I look at what Louise Castio
Speaker 1: did in that second half where you and you make
Speaker 1: a lot of good points throughout that. Speaking of Luisi
Speaker 1: sa Marino and Louis CASTI like, I get it. I
Speaker 1: can hear what you're saying. But in July where he
Speaker 1: really went off or he was great, Phip was great,
Speaker 1: a brutal August like that, inconsistency was still there. And Frankie,
Speaker 1: maybe you could answer this question like Castile, as Matt said,
Speaker 1: was coming off the board in like as your third
Speaker 1: or show starting pitcher last year? Prostially what pick was
Speaker 1: that last year? Eighty? Last year? So you're getting them okay, perfect,
Speaker 1: that was all a thirty picks later. You're getting it,
Speaker 1: get later than Sa Mareno, Well you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying this this year, Luise, Yes, year later than you
Speaker 1: were last year. Most people are still getting him as
Speaker 1: their SP three. That's true, that's true. Are you basically
Speaker 1: are you comfortable with that meant, are you comfortable with
Speaker 1: this guy as your sp three? Are you taking him
Speaker 1: again seventh round? Yeah? No, I think you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: have to want to pay in a sixth round, probably
Speaker 1: early seventh, you know, depending on format and stuff. But
Speaker 1: my case is the talent is there is. I'll continue
Speaker 1: to saying none of these four are a lot to
Speaker 1: deliver it. Look, Zack, Zach Wheeler was awesome for the past,
Speaker 1: you know, like over over three months last year. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't, you know, say Zach Wheeler
Speaker 1: is definitely going to do it. There's a lot of indicators.
Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Wheeler in in that stretch where he
Speaker 1: was amazing. He had a home run the fly wall
Speaker 1: percentage of five nine percent, he had a babbit of
Speaker 1: to fifty. He had a left on base percentage of
Speaker 1: like eighty something. So if you you know, just pull
Speaker 1: those numbers back a little to the norm, you know,
Speaker 1: he's really got to ramp it up again. And I
Speaker 1: like Zach Wheeler. I'm not talking bad about him. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to make the case that after the first
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen pictures, that's why you know, I want
Speaker 1: to live in a certain area when I'm drafting, when
Speaker 1: I'm selling my kds, you know, it gets risky or
Speaker 1: and risky, whether it's injuries, inexperience, or track recording. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's definitely right about that. Like I have my
Speaker 1: top thirteen. The tier ends with Synderguard. And we we
Speaker 1: talked about that tier a lot last year last week, Greg,
Speaker 1: where it's you know, at the middle tier. You know,
Speaker 1: once you get into like the early third round, it's
Speaker 1: like your Severino Carrasco, Walker Bueller, Synderguard. That's that's my
Speaker 1: that cuts off my thirteen. That's the end of it.
Speaker 1: We talked about this that I mean, how have I
Speaker 1: know that I know the answer to this, but for
Speaker 1: the listening audience and people watching at home and Greg,
Speaker 1: how have you how have you been constructing your pitching?
Speaker 1: Because I know you're big on you know, you have
Speaker 1: to have a plan heading into your draft. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to get two of the top thirteen pitchers and
Speaker 1: then you know maybe in that six seventh round range
Speaker 1: you're trying to get a Louise Castillo or maybe even
Speaker 1: a little bit later on a Shane Bieber as your
Speaker 1: SP three or or Zach Wheeler, one of these guys.
Speaker 1: Do you have to have one of these top thirteen
Speaker 1: pitchers or is that how you wanted most of your
Speaker 1: draft to come out with one of these top two
Speaker 1: of these top guys to to lead your staff for
Speaker 1: this season. I don't have to have one. I prefer
Speaker 1: to have one. Uh. Look, if somebody fell on the
Speaker 1: hitting side that was too good to pass up. He
Speaker 1: overweighted that that age value, and I figured, I'm just gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, load up and starting pitching. I'm I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna make audibles at the draft table, but as you said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk in there with with a plan, and
Speaker 1: I do want to grant I'm totally fine with Syndegard
Speaker 1: Syndeguard as my ace. I mean, he has the skills
Speaker 1: set and even in a down year, look what he
Speaker 1: was able to do. So he's come out and said
Speaker 1: he's getta better on himself and all that. He's not
Speaker 1: taking one of these team friendly deals and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I want to have at least one of those aces. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's why picking in the top say five, really, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, gives you an advantage in that second and
Speaker 1: third round because the end of the second early third.
Speaker 1: You don't have to take a picture at the end
Speaker 1: of the second. But if you if that's the how
Speaker 1: you're scud on your board and you want to do that,
Speaker 1: you can either fortify your hitting to take your first ace,
Speaker 1: and it gives you that option in the third early
Speaker 1: third round we have even a second ace. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you started off with a Garrett pol under
Speaker 1: the second and Carlos Karashka was sitting there in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the third, that's tough to pass up. Which
Speaker 1: if you take those two you can really just start
Speaker 1: pounding hitters. I understand you're passing up on elite hitting
Speaker 1: as well there, but you already got a first round
Speaker 1: and hitter and there's plenty of good guys in a
Speaker 1: round four and five. Yeah, So I think that's well put.
Speaker 1: I think I think what Matt said about you know
Speaker 1: the obviously, I mean you can say this about any position,
Speaker 1: but obviously with pitching, it I mean it's even uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's more under a microscope. Is once you get
Speaker 1: past those first thirteen, it's like the lower you go
Speaker 1: is like there's gonna be more and more questions, Like
Speaker 1: there's gonna be question marks with all of these guys
Speaker 1: in this range. So you know, I can't dispute that
Speaker 1: I currently have Louise Castio ranked as my twin the
Speaker 1: third starting pitcher. I have him right behind Jose Burrios.
Speaker 1: I know some people might prefer to Castio to Burrios. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're skipping over a whole tier, which we'll
Speaker 1: get to like as as we go. We'll get to them.
Speaker 1: But you know, Luis Castillo is one of these guys.
Speaker 1: He's very polarizing, you know, like a lot of people
Speaker 1: want to hear about him. What is there to like
Speaker 1: to me? I saw him ranked as my SP twenty three.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of moving parts. Again,
Speaker 1: you could say this for a lot of these pictures
Speaker 1: in this range. It seems like no matter what you
Speaker 1: say about Castillo, like there needs to be things that
Speaker 1: go right for him to pay off this value. Again,
Speaker 1: same thing for a lot of the guys in this range.
Speaker 1: But just like the e r A by month modica,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just all over the place, like last
Speaker 1: year April seven point eight, five May three point four, eight,
Speaker 1: June six point seven, five, July two point two, five,
Speaker 1: August five point five seven September one point zero nine
Speaker 1: and how over the place, man, how about this he
Speaker 1: has one of the same problems that has as well.
Speaker 1: Those home roads splits are start. Castillo was like dominant
Speaker 1: at home. He had uh striking a percentage maybe a
Speaker 1: five percent walk percentage, and his extrip was like three.
Speaker 1: That's a great American, you know they like to joke around,
Speaker 1: great American, small park, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: He was really good at home. His problem is even
Speaker 1: at home on the road. He gave him fourteen homers
Speaker 1: at home, fourteen homers on the road. That's something that
Speaker 1: needs to, you know, get closer to the average as
Speaker 1: opposed to be in touch an outlier. You know, you
Speaker 1: can't just keep giving up the long ball constantly. And
Speaker 1: I think that could correct a bit. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna totally solve it, but this is the same
Speaker 1: thing with Burrios. I mean he is night and day
Speaker 1: home in the road, He's true, Yeah, Burrios three point
Speaker 1: zero three, three point zero three e r A at
Speaker 1: home last year, four point eight five on the road.
Speaker 1: Sto three point five one at home, five point zero
Speaker 1: three on the road. Which is weird again because he
Speaker 1: pitches in Cincinnati. Like that was one of the first
Speaker 1: things that stood out to me. Why does he pitch
Speaker 1: so well at home? Is it just like a comfort
Speaker 1: factor kind of thing. It doesn't make sense because it's
Speaker 1: it's known as a smaller ballpark, hitters ballpark. Well, it's
Speaker 1: weird it is, And that makes me a little bit
Speaker 1: nervous draft teams that a number that could go up.
Speaker 1: I I know the fIF and the x FI. We're
Speaker 1: not that far away from the three five number at
Speaker 1: home in general, which is a good thing. I just
Speaker 1: want to jump one thing. That one thing that does
Speaker 1: confuse me. If we look at like catch Still last
Speaker 1: year was going off the board at He's dropped some picks.
Speaker 1: You know, he's pulled back in in a DP, but
Speaker 1: a guy like Tanaka, who went one pick after him
Speaker 1: last year, is going even further back. And I really
Speaker 1: like Tanaka. He's got some of the same problems. You know,
Speaker 1: the home run ball really hurts him. But he's a
Speaker 1: guy that I I just think that has a skill
Speaker 1: set and Okay, maybe you're not getting off out of him,
Speaker 1: but I think he's one of the most undervalued pictures
Speaker 1: out there. And I think that's probably one of the
Speaker 1: bigger takeaways here, Greg is basically with Burios, if you're
Speaker 1: playing the fifteen team league, you're taking him in the
Speaker 1: fifth round. Castillo in a fifteen team league, you're getting
Speaker 1: him in the sixth round. Wheeler you're getting him in
Speaker 1: the sixth round. And with her Man Marques, he's more
Speaker 1: of a fifth round pick. With Burials, so you have
Speaker 1: Burials and Marquees in the fifth round, and you have
Speaker 1: Castillo and Wheeler in the sixth round. If you ask me,
Speaker 1: and where I've kind of been living, is you're getting
Speaker 1: Tanaka or even a Chris Archer, who I find interesting.
Speaker 1: You're getting those guys around or two later at times.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Shane Bieber. Right, So like, if you
Speaker 1: like this here and you want one of these guys
Speaker 1: to be your SP three, you can kind of just
Speaker 1: wait instead of taking Marquez or Burrios in the in
Speaker 1: the fifth or even Castillo in the sixth, you can
Speaker 1: wait like two rounds later and you get Tanaka or
Speaker 1: Chris Archer or Shane Bieber and the eight as your
Speaker 1: SP three. It's just if you really buy that those
Speaker 1: guys are about to break out, because there's definitely signs
Speaker 1: like with those four specifically that I put in the
Speaker 1: poll today, Wheeler, Marques Castillo, and Burrios, there are signs
Speaker 1: that they're like on the cusp of the breakout again,
Speaker 1: as we've been talking about specifically with Castillo here, there's
Speaker 1: also risk, there is and I want to get into
Speaker 1: Burrios a little bit deeper because well, Burrios has even
Speaker 1: to a larger extent than Luis Castillo had. This is
Speaker 1: a former top prospect, right and we cannot quit former
Speaker 1: top prospects and believing what they can become. And that
Speaker 1: leads that all leads you to Buyron Bucks and the
Speaker 1: teammate of Ze Barrios, who's hit all these home runs
Speaker 1: in the sprain as all these r b ey's whatnot,
Speaker 1: and people continue to jump in on him probably earlier
Speaker 1: than they should. Joze Barrios, we have waited and waited
Speaker 1: for him to become a legitimate ace. We have seen
Speaker 1: signs in certain months over the last several years that hey,
Speaker 1: he can become that ace. That's why you get in
Speaker 1: on him at his current a d P. That's why
Speaker 1: you don't potentially wait on a Shane Bieber Pavetta that
Speaker 1: tear rather than taking Burrios now right like that is
Speaker 1: the quadr you find yourself in. So when we come back, man,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you you've answered that question. Can
Speaker 1: Jose Barrios become and ace a guy that you're taking
Speaker 1: much earlier next year? That's why you're taking where he is,
Speaker 1: because you believe you can become that guy. Is this
Speaker 1: the year it all comes to fruition for Jose Barrios
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Speaker 1: calling out. Everybody's a little bit of snow on the ground.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to come toward. I gotta get your opinion
Speaker 1: here because we're talking about this during the break. And
Speaker 1: I've long been a fan of facial hair, and I've
Speaker 1: been trying to get Greggy out here growing some facial
Speaker 1: hair for a while now. And I gotta say, Greggy,
Speaker 1: I am loving the scruff man. So I am loving
Speaker 1: the scrus So I'm so have you brought this up
Speaker 1: to Frank because I planning them bringing it off obviously,
Speaker 1: So I have not shaved it over a week at
Speaker 1: this point. And then the neck it is clear, you know,
Speaker 1: making it cleaner. It looked no, so I recorded. So
Speaker 1: when I was recording the videos this morning, I looked
Speaker 1: at myself in the monitor. It's very good time and
Speaker 1: I can go to my eyes. So um, So I
Speaker 1: was looking at myself in the monitor, monitor, moner, it
Speaker 1: is okay. Finally, So I was looking at myself in
Speaker 1: the monitor and I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't really see much. It doesn't really look anything's going
Speaker 1: on here. There's really a munch of a difference. I
Speaker 1: noticed it. I noticed it in person. Do you we
Speaker 1: got a little five o'clock shadow a little bit, Maddie,
Speaker 1: what do you think Should he keep it? Should he
Speaker 1: grow it out? I planned on shaving it, like if
Speaker 1: I didn't like how it look, I was gonna shave
Speaker 1: it tomorrow morning. No stop, Greg, It's it's time for
Speaker 1: something for a little while. It's gonna be called this week.
Speaker 1: I like a little scruffy it. I'm just lazy, but
Speaker 1: I'm not down with all these you know, beards and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Be honest with you, Well, what do
Speaker 1: you think of Mark in Madiemo? Is it all right?
Speaker 1: What do you think? You're just very clean right now? Clean? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He usually isn't that bad. I mean, you don't have
Speaker 1: one of these ones that are growing out and like,
Speaker 1: you know, like stuff. And look how look how that
Speaker 1: worked out for Dallas doesn't even have a job, doesn't
Speaker 1: even have a job. It's probably because of the beard.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I got this, So there really questions.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sake tomorrow and I'm seeing Judy's parents tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. So we told me, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they do. I'm kind of interested to sure they do.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do yet.
Speaker 1: I kind of like I might give it a little
Speaker 1: while longer, just to see how I like it. I
Speaker 1: liked and then and then at some point we'n shave
Speaker 1: it all off. Obviously I'm not. It's not gonna be
Speaker 1: like deep I can't handle that. How about keep it
Speaker 1: through auction night. We're doing auction next year. That's a
Speaker 1: long time. So we're doing We're doing the g d
Speaker 1: D auction next Thursday night. We actually still have to
Speaker 1: have our mandate where we do we plan out our oction.
Speaker 1: But we kind of talked about it, but we talked.
Speaker 1: We talked more this series. Yeah, we talked. I want
Speaker 1: to give the regulations to uh Frank Stamfel here. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be participating in the NFBC main event. What time
Speaker 1: is What time is that? That is Saturday the six
Speaker 1: at one pm, Stewart I will be there. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be broadcasting. I'm covering the event. Oh, there you go,
Speaker 1: so you can rip my team on the air. I mean,
Speaker 1: great fun to play with the big boys. What I
Speaker 1: have to talk to you? I want to make you
Speaker 1: go on Friday, probably so you're not gonna go Friday.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm let me both of us go. Is that
Speaker 1: a thing? Like? Definitely we're officially broadcasting Friday thirty and
Speaker 1: Saturday at one. Okay, I mean, yeah, you guys have
Speaker 1: the super auction and I probably can't. I'll talk to
Speaker 1: you and Mike off the air and figure out how
Speaker 1: to do this actually all right anyway, because I think
Speaker 1: because on Saturday, might want you to go Friday and
Speaker 1: I'll do the VANDUL stuff from here, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Just figure out how to balance that? Would
Speaker 1: I have a co host? Yeah? You do? You do,
Speaker 1: Brad Ziegler for readably picture will be covering the covering it,
Speaker 1: covering it with us. Just piss appel over there as well,
Speaker 1: covering with us. Oh nice. Yeah, we're not going on.
Speaker 1: We got a little party going on stuff, all right.
Speaker 1: So before we hit the break, I brought up Jose
Speaker 1: burrias a guy that we're still waiting on to to
Speaker 1: really be an east And we thought a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought we could see that jump last year, and
Speaker 1: after a month or so we thought he did came
Speaker 1: back down to earth and he gave the splits a
Speaker 1: little while ago. Matt, Josie Burrios Frankie has ranked one
Speaker 1: spot higher. You said the Louise cast is this the
Speaker 1: year of Burrios puts it all together, and even a
Speaker 1: Burrios guy in the past, is this the year he
Speaker 1: puts it all together? Or is what we see what
Speaker 1: we get with this guy? No, I think he makes
Speaker 1: the step. I think he takes that next step. I
Speaker 1: think I have right there with Frankie and I just
Speaker 1: I think everything is coming. Everything is the stars or
Speaker 1: a larning like to say, he went from a D
Speaker 1: the previous year that he put up a hundred nine
Speaker 1: last year. The strikeout rate increased. You look at the
Speaker 1: swinging strike percent, which all so increased and confirms the
Speaker 1: growth in that area. So that's that's a really good thing.
Speaker 1: The walk rate stayed the same, but it was really
Speaker 1: key is the first pitch strike went from just below
Speaker 1: two I think just under that's a that's a nice
Speaker 1: jump upward. Uh. The X fit and the E r
Speaker 1: a aligned. So that's another sign looking, you know, everything
Speaker 1: starting to can you know culminate? I guess is the
Speaker 1: word of I was. There's actually a different word I
Speaker 1: was looking for, but it's not my mind front section.
Speaker 1: But even the sierra is right there. So you have
Speaker 1: all these things coming together. Then, like we stated that
Speaker 1: the road starts have been a big bugaboo. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: hopefully now another year of maturity, I think you can
Speaker 1: tire some in that second half he made that jump.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was that sharp, and I think
Speaker 1: the UH, I think the stats paid for that. So
Speaker 1: I said, I really like the four uh. There's a
Speaker 1: lot to like with them. Nothing's a guarantee here, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna place a bet on Burrios. I like Burrios
Speaker 1: too as well. I don't really like the price right now.
Speaker 1: You know in these fifteen team drafts, he's going in
Speaker 1: the fifth round. But look, you have to pay for talent,
Speaker 1: and I think last year we saw some of that
Speaker 1: talent come to fruition. The skills getting better, as Maddie
Speaker 1: Moo mentioned, career high in swinging strike rate with eleven
Speaker 1: point two percent, the first pitch strike rate, as Matt mentioned,
Speaker 1: jump by five percent career high sixty four and a
Speaker 1: half percent. I mean that was kind of something that
Speaker 1: was that hurt burials before is you know he's falling
Speaker 1: behind in counts. Now he's getting ahead a little bit
Speaker 1: more throwing those first pitch strikes. And he also had
Speaker 1: a career high Chase rate right around our thirty three percent.
Speaker 1: So it seems like everything's there right like a hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety two innings pitch last year. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's taking that step into like workload. He can handle
Speaker 1: an ace type workload for a starting pitcher. Now, Uh,
Speaker 1: the swinging strike rate eleven percent career high is good.
Speaker 1: It's not Luis Castio level good like Luis Castillo is.
Speaker 1: You know, thirteen and a half percent is up there
Speaker 1: with like Noah cinder Guards of the world, like the
Speaker 1: top fifteen starting pitchers in the league. But I do
Speaker 1: like that Burials is trending in the right direction obviously.
Speaker 1: I think really what he needs to work on here, Matt,
Speaker 1: and maybe you can speak to this as well, is
Speaker 1: Burrios throws a four team and a sinker with that
Speaker 1: curve slurve. I mean you've seen gifts of Jose Burials pitch.
Speaker 1: I mean that breaking pitch is nasty. He needs to
Speaker 1: continue to develop this changeup. I think that is the
Speaker 1: that's that's the pitch that he needs. It's similar to
Speaker 1: Severino right right when we talked about this last week
Speaker 1: with Severio needed to develop that changeup and he worked
Speaker 1: I believe it was two off seasons ago with Pedro
Speaker 1: Martinez to help develop that pitch and it's turned into
Speaker 1: a serviceable third pitch. That's what Jose Burrios needs. He
Speaker 1: needs because if you do just fastball and you know
Speaker 1: that slurve curveball pitch that he has you come from,
Speaker 1: you become a little bit too predictable. As nasty as
Speaker 1: the pitch can be, if you're just a two pitch picture,
Speaker 1: that's going to hurt you. As he starting pitture, he
Speaker 1: needs to continue to develop that changeup. So that's something
Speaker 1: that I want to watch about the spring here to
Speaker 1: see if he's working on it, if it's working out well,
Speaker 1: because if that's something that he can carry over into
Speaker 1: the regular season, a developed changeup, then I think we
Speaker 1: can see him take that next step into turning into
Speaker 1: like a Luis Severino type picture. But he needs that
Speaker 1: third pitch. What do you think? Man? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: in my starting picture preview for the Athletic on the
Speaker 1: Jji Barrios, right up, I did hit advocate continue? Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: well done? Something he did? I did right? He needs
Speaker 1: to concentrate on that curve, slur whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it and he needs to correct the change. I
Speaker 1: totally agree with Frank here, but this is the big
Speaker 1: step is if he gets over pitch this year, the
Speaker 1: strikeouts will be there just in volume alone, and as
Speaker 1: the swinging strike improved last year, you know you could
Speaker 1: be looking at some really good things from this guy
Speaker 1: when he's on. You've seen the talent, so you know
Speaker 1: it's there. It's being able to do it over the
Speaker 1: course of the season. We're talking about Modica from the
Speaker 1: athletic and give up with both of you guys have
Speaker 1: said here to me, out of the crew that you
Speaker 1: just named, Franking the pole of Marquez, Burrios, um Castillo,
Speaker 1: Zach Zach Wheeler, I feel like, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he has a disagree like, he's the one that you
Speaker 1: jump into that next here has the best chance I'd
Speaker 1: say jumping into that next here and the other guy.
Speaker 1: Is that reasonable? It's a little bit of a different
Speaker 1: question than you asked. You're talking about based on a VP,
Speaker 1: do you think he has the best chance to go
Speaker 1: to the next here? Actually, I have Zach Wheeler ranked
Speaker 1: the highest of all these. Really, yeah, I have Zach
Speaker 1: Wheeler inside of my top twenty, which might be aggressive,
Speaker 1: but and I heard some of the things that Matt
Speaker 1: mentioned um when we when he mentioned Wheeler earlier on.
Speaker 1: I mean the bad bit at the home run, the
Speaker 1: fly ball ratio during that stretch last year it was low.
Speaker 1: But I think the x fit is kind of something
Speaker 1: that you could pay attention to there and maybe expect
Speaker 1: something like that. Because his final eleven starts he pitched
Speaker 1: to a one point six eight e r A, but
Speaker 1: he had a three point four seven x tips, so
Speaker 1: I believe he could be a sub three point five
Speaker 1: zero uh pitcher in terms of e r A with
Speaker 1: you know, I think the whip be good. I mean,
Speaker 1: the walks came all the way down last year. I
Speaker 1: mean the walks were I believe, you know, like two
Speaker 1: point seven walks per nine last year, whereas you know
Speaker 1: that was consistently over three. This was someone who had
Speaker 1: had actually struggled with with command in his career, so
Speaker 1: like he was getting people to chase more during that
Speaker 1: eleven star stretch the final eleven games he was nine
Speaker 1: and one then, uh he was getting ground ball all rate,
Speaker 1: limited hard hit rate to cent so he's inducing a
Speaker 1: lot of sold contact here. Uh. He he introduced a
Speaker 1: new pitch, Greg it was he was throwing this, uh
Speaker 1: the splitter, which he only threw it about like six
Speaker 1: eight percent of the time last year, but it had
Speaker 1: a nine percent with rates. So this is something that
Speaker 1: I talked about where if you see someone at a
Speaker 1: new pitch, and especially you know over the second half
Speaker 1: of the season, he upped that usage up to around
Speaker 1: eight percent. I mean, even if that comes up a
Speaker 1: little bit more this year, he throws that splitter ten
Speaker 1: percent at the time to year, and he's getting a
Speaker 1: whip rate around. This is a tangible change that Zach
Speaker 1: Wheeler made to his arsenal last year that made him
Speaker 1: a better picture. Um the swinging strike rade. It's not
Speaker 1: really adelite levels, you know. I just think I think
Speaker 1: he can be a Jamison ty One type picture. Jamison
Speaker 1: ty One is going two rounds earlier, Jameson Taylan is
Speaker 1: going in the fourth round. Like, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are drafting tie On this year because they
Speaker 1: feel he's safe. I don't know that anyone believes that
Speaker 1: he's gonna give be like a ten k per nine
Speaker 1: kind of guy. I think he's gonna be between like
Speaker 1: eight and a half and nine case per nine. I
Speaker 1: think Zach Wheeler could do something similar. I think Zach
Speaker 1: Wheeler could be a sub three five e r A.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what we're respecting out of
Speaker 1: Jamison Tyoon as well. So I don't know that he
Speaker 1: has like this huge, immense upside, but I do think
Speaker 1: that he can jump into this tier with like these
Speaker 1: sp two type guys who are being drafted in the
Speaker 1: you know, fourth round, because like tyn Flaherty and Clevinger
Speaker 1: are all going in the fourth round right now of
Speaker 1: fifteen team drafts. Zach Wheeler, you're getting two rounds with
Speaker 1: later quite consistently in these drafts. I think he can
Speaker 1: be on the same level of those pictures. So that's
Speaker 1: why I haven't ranked that same toyear. He's top twenty
Speaker 1: for me. Now, you give a lot of good stats
Speaker 1: before about Zach Wheeler and when he did a comparative
Speaker 1: leader Louise Castillo. What do you think about him this year?
Speaker 1: I mean, I have him right behind Bars and Castillo,
Speaker 1: and like Frank said, the control. Look, the key thing
Speaker 1: is not giving back any of those games in in
Speaker 1: that area. He lad qualified uh hitters in MLB starters.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, on a hard hit percentage, and it was like,
Speaker 1: which is which is pretty amazing? Right there? There is
Speaker 1: a lot to like with him. I agree with Frank,
Speaker 1: you should always look at X TRIP. I don't even
Speaker 1: look at FHIP. I'll be honest with you. PHIP is
Speaker 1: something I don't pay a time I look at X FHIP.
Speaker 1: If I want to look at Sierra, I'll look at that,
Speaker 1: and there is tons of like the splitter, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: I put it's almost at that ten percent range. It's
Speaker 1: not quite there yet, but if you can get it
Speaker 1: there or just above that's that's gonna be key. Because
Speaker 1: if he can get you know, if he continue to
Speaker 1: get the swing and mrs with that pitch, adding on
Speaker 1: to the arsenal the fastball slider, you know, you could
Speaker 1: really have something nice. I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: he finishes as inside the top twenty uh that they
Speaker 1: would tie on to me. I think certain people I
Speaker 1: think he's supremely safe. I think he's safe as well,
Speaker 1: but to a point, I'm looking more. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: more conservative with with my ear A S and stuff.
Speaker 1: If he pitched two A three six e r A
Speaker 1: and pitched say two hundred something in is with a
Speaker 1: hundred ni drac acts. I would sign up for that
Speaker 1: right now today, as I think that's a hell of
Speaker 1: a picture. You know, you're really getting something good there. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some people see the three r A last year from
Speaker 1: town and they're thinking it's gonna get even better. Not
Speaker 1: that it can't, but I think that's like the nile
Speaker 1: of his projection that you're looking at. So, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a really nice range. My point here is I want
Speaker 1: a pair of these guys with an eight or someone
Speaker 1: I consider an eight. Is now I have that floor,
Speaker 1: I have that base, and if they have a month
Speaker 1: or two where they're like Louis Castillo last year, you know,
Speaker 1: it makes it a lot easier to be able to
Speaker 1: sustain it having an ace where if if you don't
Speaker 1: have that, you're you know, you gotta get volume here.
Speaker 1: You need two or three of these guys, and you
Speaker 1: know you also got to consider when you're before you're
Speaker 1: sit in that draft room, especially like Frank, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be his first time in the NFBC main event where
Speaker 1: am I taking my closure? So now in the sixth round,
Speaker 1: am I gonna go with or the end of the
Speaker 1: fifth sixth round. If Barrios, Castillo, Wheeler are all options
Speaker 1: to him, does he take a brad hand there? Does
Speaker 1: he take the starting picture? These are gonna be things
Speaker 1: he's gonna be confronted with. And I know everybody's saying,
Speaker 1: just avoid closures this year. You can't just utterly avoid
Speaker 1: closures in an overall competition like the main event. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You can fade them and then spend your whole time
Speaker 1: on fab And that's a really tough and I've done
Speaker 1: it before. It's really tough. It's very time consuming, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss out on like Lawan Soto's of the World,
Speaker 1: which all your money is getting spent on speculating on closes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mat made actually a great point on Twitter late last
Speaker 1: week where he said, listen, you're gonna spend on closer.
Speaker 1: It just depends if you want to spend your draft dollars,
Speaker 1: you want to spend your fab dollars, You're going to
Speaker 1: ultimately spend. So don't think that like you're not taking
Speaker 1: him in the draft, you're not gonna waste or spend
Speaker 1: money on them. Later You'll be chasing closes potentially all year.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was a really interesting point um
Speaker 1: by Modica. There you nervous for the main event. My
Speaker 1: nervous nore. This is I mean, I've always this is
Speaker 1: what I love to do. I love to I love
Speaker 1: to draft. I mean, this is the best time of
Speaker 1: the fantasy baseball season is it's draft seasons. So I
Speaker 1: mean maybe once I get inside the room, I'll get
Speaker 1: some butterflies there. I don't feel anything, but I'll be
Speaker 1: there so I'll make you smile. Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta bring the pom pomps. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: make a sign. I probably you probably aren't gonna want
Speaker 1: me to do. I was sending text message during you
Speaker 1: probably gonna want to see that. No, I will not
Speaker 1: be paying attention. I'll shut my phone off during the draft.
Speaker 1: What do you think I'm the text you have to answer.
Speaker 1: Greg Biden, who is my co owner for this draft,
Speaker 1: will be there with me. We'll be side by. You
Speaker 1: can't get that. I confused? No, sorry, Greg. If we
Speaker 1: have an intermission, I'll talk to you then. Is there
Speaker 1: is there like an intermission for this moody? Uh? After
Speaker 1: chen rounds, believe we'll stop. There should be some food
Speaker 1: provided They better be some food provided do the people
Speaker 1: covering get people covering the draft get that food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you beautiful. I'm just gonna stop. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. That's fantastic. Uh. Maddie move is right about
Speaker 1: this though, Like when it comes to closer, especially if
Speaker 1: you're competing for an overall, if you're playing in a
Speaker 1: rodal league, like, you can't completely fade closing, right, So
Speaker 1: you have to make decisions. And you know, if you
Speaker 1: wanna if you want to get one of these starting pitchers,
Speaker 1: you want to get a Castillo or Zach Wheeler, you
Speaker 1: want to take one of those guys in the sixth
Speaker 1: round on, then you're probably forfeiting your chance to take
Speaker 1: a Brad Hand or a Roberto Osuna or you know
Speaker 1: one of these top level elite closers that Matt mentioned. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then you're probably looking a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: maybe you're taking to do little round seven or you know,
Speaker 1: I know in the Great Fantasy based plementation, will I
Speaker 1: end up with? Wade Davis is my first closer in
Speaker 1: round nine? It's not ideal. I don't love it, but
Speaker 1: I think his job security is pretty good there in Colorado,
Speaker 1: so you know, he's one of those top fourteen fifteen
Speaker 1: closures where I actually feel all right about his job security.
Speaker 1: I mean the numbers might not be great, but he's
Speaker 1: still gonna give me, you know, thirty five plus saves.
Speaker 1: That's what I expect. So you have to decide when
Speaker 1: do you want to take that first closure. You want
Speaker 1: to take it in around six or around seven, and
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna get one of these starting pitchers.
Speaker 1: If you want to take it in around nine, then
Speaker 1: you can wait a little bit. Maybe you get like
Speaker 1: a Kirby Yates, or you get a of Way Davis.
Speaker 1: You get one of those guys that's your first closer,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna feel as safe as that, Or
Speaker 1: take that closed early on around six and then you
Speaker 1: end up getting one of these and we'll talk about them.
Speaker 1: Archer to knock. You get one of those guys in
Speaker 1: around eight around nights. So you gotta have to wait,
Speaker 1: Like which combination I like better? Don't want to get
Speaker 1: this closer in the starter? What do I want to
Speaker 1: get you know, Wheeler and k STO and then take
Speaker 1: a closure later on? Like these are all decisions that
Speaker 1: you kind of have to think of before the draft.
Speaker 1: When we come back, I have a bit of a
Speaker 1: keeper deliver you know it. I want to ask Matt
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Speaker 1: best friends forever. And then I have a bit of
Speaker 1: a personal dilemma here of what I need to do
Speaker 1: as a keeper. So in my league, I'm keeping four guys,
Speaker 1: one of them being non Arnado. Fine, that's not part
Speaker 1: of the story. Head right is head to head categories.
Speaker 1: That's correct. Keeping No. One hour Nas that's one of
Speaker 1: my keepers. I have Blake Snell in the I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep Blake Snell. Now I have two more spots
Speaker 1: for three guys, to which are starting pitchers. Obviously Franks
Speaker 1: will pine on this a bunch of ready. I could
Speaker 1: keep Wheeler in the ninth, I could keep Corvin in
Speaker 1: the eleven, I can keep Justin Turner. In which two
Speaker 1: of those threes will you keep? I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm a Rhodo guy, but hed to head an know
Speaker 1: how important pitching is. Yep, I'm definitely keeping Corbin. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like the move to Washington and I like that ball.
Speaker 1: So it comes down to Wheeler or Turner correct and
Speaker 1: it's and it's a keeper. Yes, I mean j T.
Speaker 1: I mean I love that bad. I really do. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: For the keeper aspect, I'll probably go Wheeler and the
Speaker 1: head to head pitching thing. I think in this format
Speaker 1: you can you can keep Wheeler, throwback Turner, and maybe
Speaker 1: get Turner. I'm gonna take that gamble, and that's that's
Speaker 1: completely fair. And I've been leaning towards keeping just Justin
Speaker 1: Turner as the guy because he's so good in the
Speaker 1: head to head four and basically what amounts to a
Speaker 1: points leave with some of our categories, and he's he's amazing,
Speaker 1: he's absolutely fantastic in it. But Frank's like, I think
Speaker 1: you should just keep all three pictures. You grab one
Speaker 1: more picture early and then you know the worry about
Speaker 1: pitching for a very long time. So Franks saying, keep Wheelers, Snell,
Speaker 1: and Corvin, draft an ace, and you get your first
Speaker 1: four starting pitchers and don't look back. That's what Frank
Speaker 1: just kind of like that. I definitely like that that theory.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I knew matt Emo was gonna
Speaker 1: agree with me. But it also helps to know that
Speaker 1: you have the first pick and have to keeper league.
Speaker 1: But Mookie Bets is being thrown, so you're taking Mookie first.
Speaker 1: At your two or three turn, you'll probably grab another
Speaker 1: starting pitcher there. But given the fact that it's a
Speaker 1: keeper league and every twelve teams to keep up to
Speaker 1: four players, there's already forty eight pictures, not just pictures.
Speaker 1: There's so you know, I do that you're not gonna
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a great I don't know who
Speaker 1: you're what's starting picture you're gonna get there the two
Speaker 1: three turns, I don't know, you might get like actually
Speaker 1: one of these like tie Own, like maybe Clevinger. You
Speaker 1: know what, I have a so I have an idea
Speaker 1: of who I will get. You give me a second.
Speaker 1: It's all right, Greig, take your time live radio live.
Speaker 1: But if you do what bets. I think you know,
Speaker 1: having those three pictures and they head form. Lets you
Speaker 1: already have the third basement in arrea not so you don't.
Speaker 1: I think that kind of makes it easier to throw
Speaker 1: justin turner back, like do you play with a corner infielder? Nope?
Speaker 1: Utility though, so he would be all right, well you
Speaker 1: know we have we have we have two utilities to
Speaker 1: be fair, not as big of a need because you
Speaker 1: already have the third base. Alright, So I think this
Speaker 1: is the right document that i'm opening. Yes, okay, So
Speaker 1: the picture that I'm looking to on the board, I'm
Speaker 1: expecting to be if Walker Vieweller. If it's not Walker
Speaker 1: Bueller in the top picture on the board, give or take,
Speaker 1: is James Paxton, Steven Strassburg, Zactdrinky Jamison Tyan like that
Speaker 1: tier Okay that maybe look if well, how is Walker Bueller?
Speaker 1: How many people can keep four? Keep four? The guy
Speaker 1: that has Walker Vieweler's a lot of people to keep
Speaker 1: if it's very impressive, not gone, he might not, might not.
Speaker 1: But my point is Buller the keeper league Bueller is
Speaker 1: gonna let how many twelve? I don't know, it's very
Speaker 1: close it's very close. Definitely take him if if you
Speaker 1: were obviously you want to take a starting pitture, like
Speaker 1: if I'm just like ranking those guys with James Paxson
Speaker 1: is the highest rank wealth of bombs, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have back to back pitch here at the two three tone.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'm gonna said the head points thing
Speaker 1: is not my game, but j because I just know
Speaker 1: how good that Pat hasn't roto let alone, you know,
Speaker 1: in real life, So then maybe I would go with
Speaker 1: turn it if you really have a possibility of a
Speaker 1: Bueller at a Paxton right there, and then you've got
Speaker 1: three hitters and four pictures, so I don't know, alright,
Speaker 1: so tough, okay, fair enough? Um I mentioned Patrick Corbyn
Speaker 1: and he's I believe the fifteen pitcher off the border,
Speaker 1: so um, yeah, he's happen up now with Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, he's the fourteen now right after Bueller
Speaker 1: and Sindergarten. He's not right after, he's eleven picks later,
Speaker 1: but he's the next pitcher up an NFBC ADP. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of where we left off yesterday. I realdn't
Speaker 1: really get into Patrick or Friday. Rather, we don't really
Speaker 1: get into Patrick Corbyn. Um like the top right, So
Speaker 1: Patrick Orbyn is good, good ones to kind of jump
Speaker 1: off to. Now, Matt and Corbyn, you said you're you know,
Speaker 1: on him this year with the move to Washington. Now
Speaker 1: you look at all some of the advanced numbers, they're
Speaker 1: all pretty good With Cordy. I think we all kind
Speaker 1: of waited for it to fall off with him. Didn't
Speaker 1: happen last year. How come you're jumping back, you know,
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbyn this year? I mean I think maybe you know, realistically,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he did just three r A, I'm
Speaker 1: totally fine with that. Uh. If he can you know,
Speaker 1: withstand and repeat with the innings, you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: ton of strikeouts as well. Look, you only have to
Speaker 1: have him for one year. The Nationals are on the
Speaker 1: hook for six years, so you know it's a totally different,
Speaker 1: uh mindset. There is just slide is one of the
Speaker 1: best pitches in all of baseball. We were waiting for
Speaker 1: him to really make stat the injuries and stuff. It
Speaker 1: finally came through fruition and I, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not pray, but he pitches two D strike apps something
Speaker 1: like that should win a bunch of games too in Washington.
Speaker 1: Something just doesn't feel right about. I liked him last
Speaker 1: year too, but now you're paying the premium for him
Speaker 1: because he's going in the fourth round. So now you
Speaker 1: have to pay up for what he gave you last year.
Speaker 1: And it was a contract year. I'm not saying, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: it's contract year. There's no way he can come close
Speaker 1: to what he was doing last year. But you know,
Speaker 1: the velocity kind of like dipped, and I know it
Speaker 1: came back towards the end of the season in terms
Speaker 1: of the fastball velocity. But you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: some things that I've read about him was that his slider,
Speaker 1: according to FanGraph pitch values, was the best slider in
Speaker 1: baseball last year. And you know he threw at forty
Speaker 1: one percent of the time, so I mean he throws
Speaker 1: this pitch a massive amount of time. He's his swinging
Speaker 1: strike rate was fifteen point six percent last year overall
Speaker 1: amongst all his pitches, his pitches, that was the second
Speaker 1: best in baseball behind Max Scherzer. So that he actually
Speaker 1: gets to go to the Nationals and learned from a
Speaker 1: guy like Max Scherzer and Pitchel inside him. I understand
Speaker 1: those things, but I just don't know what made the
Speaker 1: slider so good last year, Like in terms of a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I've read is that the pitch
Speaker 1: ultimately didn't change all that much except he just threw
Speaker 1: it like fourteen percent more time, like it was what's up.
Speaker 1: But what happens to is, you know, the more he's
Speaker 1: throwing that fourteen percent at the time, and it's auditioned
Speaker 1: by subtraction, one of his lesser pitches, he's eliminating fourteen
Speaker 1: percent at a time to say, So that really does
Speaker 1: play like I think you know when piget your starts
Speaker 1: to harness and you should say a lot of these
Speaker 1: slide bulk slider curve guys, you know, really focusing on that.
Speaker 1: I thin think it's auditioned by subtraction. The more where
Speaker 1: you use a better weapon, and unless you use something inferior,
Speaker 1: the better you're gonna bab I hear you. It kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense. I hear you on it. But the
Speaker 1: herd the hard hit rate was also really high last
Speaker 1: year to like forty seven was second in baseball behind
Speaker 1: my guy Cole Hamile's. So I don't know. Something just
Speaker 1: seems off about him, like maybe it's just like like
Speaker 1: an intuition thing kind of. I don't hate him. I
Speaker 1: still have him ranked like inside my topic. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I feel like whenever he's the top, you don't go
Speaker 1: in his direction. I have him as SP eight teen,
Speaker 1: so I have him just Clevinger, tay On Flaherty. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like you're paying up. I like
Speaker 1: Corn better than those guys. Yeah, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people do. I don't think he's gonna be on
Speaker 1: my team at that price. It's fine, that's fine. Um
Speaker 1: in this tier though, Matt, you heard some names just
Speaker 1: now from Frankie. But the name I don't want to
Speaker 1: bring up before we get into a Paxner time. Even
Speaker 1: more is his teammate Steven Shotsburg, who I think it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense in this area. Shotsburg is
Speaker 1: the guy that, as we said last week, frank he
Speaker 1: wasn't that the gram synderguard bum Garners here last year
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt kind of as he always
Speaker 1: tends to do. You're getting Shotsburg now around pick sixty one.
Speaker 1: He's the eighteen pitcher off the board directly by I'm
Speaker 1: Paxson in town. But I think you can probably make
Speaker 1: an argument that it's Strasburg below is a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier than them. Meanie, are you you know Steven Strasburger,
Speaker 1: this you met at its price? I am, yeah, I
Speaker 1: understand it's pretty much every year you gotta deal with this, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, injury and stuff like that. The fastball velocity
Speaker 1: was concerning that a dipped when he came back. He
Speaker 1: did focus more on the changeup, which is his money pitch.
Speaker 1: But remember one thing, Strasburg and I've been chasing this
Speaker 1: dragon for years, the peripherals, the area indicas just two
Speaker 1: good year in a year out. But remember one thing.
Speaker 1: He's one year removed from what a fantastic season, the
Speaker 1: reason we were all drafting him earlier. It's a major headache.
Speaker 1: I get some people don't want to deal with it,
Speaker 1: but I mean the talent is there. You're not paying
Speaker 1: a premium price anymore. Look, you're still paying you know,
Speaker 1: early fifth round price, which is expensive. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's not, but you're not paying that second or third round.
Speaker 1: So if he's my number two, I'm gonna take that
Speaker 1: gamble because even if he gives you one fifty one
Speaker 1: six strikes out a hundred eight batters and three r A.
Speaker 1: You know what, that's a hell of the picture. I
Speaker 1: mean after you're hoping you can get from a lot
Speaker 1: of the other guys that are going to go after Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be on my team yet. Like the
Speaker 1: Nats in general, clearly I like Max first round there.
Speaker 1: Look with Strassburg, it's it just it comes down to
Speaker 1: the injuries as well. I can't deny the talent that's there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, over ten cas per nine the
Speaker 1: whip should be solid as well. But he's averaged a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one endings pissed for season throughout his career,
Speaker 1: he's only gone gone over two d pitch once. I
Speaker 1: think what Matt said about, you know, kind of projecting
Speaker 1: hundred sixty innings, that makes sense for Steven Strossberg. Like
Speaker 1: something that we did with Will Myers, right is I
Speaker 1: looked up his his inside injuries page and kind of
Speaker 1: listed all his injuries. So this was what I had
Speaker 1: last year from Steven Strotsberg when I looked at his
Speaker 1: inside injuries page to rotator cuff sprain, great, two ligament sprain, great,
Speaker 1: to muscle sprain, a C joint sprain, bone contusion, discarniation
Speaker 1: in his neck. Now I'm not dr a no, but
Speaker 1: that does not sound good. That doesn't sound good. If
Speaker 1: you're a starting pitcher and talked DR about Steven this week, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should probably talk to him about Steven Strotsburg and
Speaker 1: Steve Now Steve. Another thing thing that Matt mentioned was
Speaker 1: is it this like, is this his his oft injured
Speaker 1: altar personality? You know? Um? But you know, something else
Speaker 1: that Maddiemo mentioned here about him is that the velocity
Speaker 1: decline when he returned to So another thing that's hard
Speaker 1: to judge Steven Strotsburg is you can't really judge the
Speaker 1: skills from when he returns from injury because you don't
Speaker 1: know if he's pitching through injury. Like it's like you
Speaker 1: can't even you don't even know when he's pitching whether
Speaker 1: he's helped right, right, So it's just kind of hard
Speaker 1: to trust. You know what, I thought that you would
Speaker 1: coming into this draf Secene. I thought you would have
Speaker 1: got more of a discount of Strotsburg. I thought Strostsburg
Speaker 1: would have been been going closer to like this Louise
Speaker 1: Castile range. I'm being perfectly. Honest, I thought it would
Speaker 1: have been more of like a sixth round pick. But
Speaker 1: he is going in that fifth round range. He's going
Speaker 1: right after like pax Stone and all these other guys,
Speaker 1: and you know, right around the Barrios range in the
Speaker 1: fifth round where you know you can get him as
Speaker 1: your sp two. I thought you would have been getting
Speaker 1: more of a discount, to be honest, Well, what I'm
Speaker 1: interesting in is like as a player, Frank, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he's not gonna but what do you when he's out there,
Speaker 1: he's usually pretty like the rich Hill effect on steroids precisely.
Speaker 1: It's like when you know he's gonna only give you
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty and sixty endings. But when he's out there,
Speaker 1: when he pitches on a perse start peranning, basically he's
Speaker 1: gonna be very good. So look, if you want to
Speaker 1: take him, that's fine, Like you know what you're gonna
Speaker 1: get out of Strasburg, and if he ends up going
Speaker 1: one eighty, then you profit a lot on this picture.
Speaker 1: But you also you also need to know, like when
Speaker 1: you're taking him, the pictures that you take after what
Speaker 1: you can't take a lot of other injury risks after
Speaker 1: him like you kind of have to build in like
Speaker 1: and you take Tanaka. Then after that, like maybe you
Speaker 1: have to leave a few of these guys. Were like,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get any out of them like
Speaker 1: an arch or or like a Jose Acontana or something
Speaker 1: like that, where like you're gonna have to get anyings
Speaker 1: from somewhere, you know what I'm saying. So like it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a roster construction thing. What were gonna say, Man, No,
Speaker 1: I think you said that perfect roster construction. But I
Speaker 1: mean the case when him is the case with James Paxson.
Speaker 1: I mean, James Paxson has top five stuff in the league.
Speaker 1: If the Yankees get a hundred and eighty innings or
Speaker 1: more out of James Paxton, that is a winfull of
Speaker 1: riches for any fantasy owner that gets him in whatever
Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth round or something like that.
Speaker 1: And if you had, if you drafted an Ache, then
Speaker 1: you have two aces on your team. As I said,
Speaker 1: once again, does not come without risk. But that talent
Speaker 1: is you know. That's but the point you made, I
Speaker 1: think is imperative when you take guys like this. Later
Speaker 1: on you argue to you guys a Jose A. Kontana
Speaker 1: becomes a more valuable asset to you because you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a hundred eighty innings out of him.
Speaker 1: Actually write an article on the Athletic matt that where
Speaker 1: where Nando was kind of like pulling all these writers
Speaker 1: and stuff and they they talked about when Jose Cantana
Speaker 1: came back last year, or like he did something. He
Speaker 1: moved himself on the rubber, like this is what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, where he made a tangible change and his
Speaker 1: final twelve starts he pitched like a three six e
Speaker 1: r a with like awe strikeout. Now, that's closer to
Speaker 1: the Jose Kanana that we've seen throughout his career. So
Speaker 1: he made a change and he got better because of
Speaker 1: that change. So these are things that like I pay
Speaker 1: attention to that where Okay, I am a little bit
Speaker 1: more apt by Jose Kantana now, whereas earlier on in
Speaker 1: the draft season he was kind of just an afterthought.
Speaker 1: I think I got him in the Great Fantasy Baseball
Speaker 1: Invitation as my fifth starting pitcher. You get Jose Cantana
Speaker 1: as your fifth starting pitcher. I feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 1: So those are type of things where I'm looking at,
Speaker 1: where if someone made a change to where they were
Speaker 1: pretending on the rubber or to adding a new pitch.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that was something big that Mike Florio,
Speaker 1: our guy, looked into a Blake Snell heading into last season,
Speaker 1: was that he changed where he was pitching on the
Speaker 1: rubber or you know, it was something along those lines
Speaker 1: where like a mechanical change, he did something differently and
Speaker 1: he got better in a second half two years ago
Speaker 1: that carried over into the next season. These are kind
Speaker 1: of like the little things that when you're splitting hairs
Speaker 1: you need to find these kind of things that make
Speaker 1: a picture stand out differently than other pictures going in
Speaker 1: their range. Was going to chime in there. I figured
Speaker 1: I'd step back for the second. No, He's French, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: change things that you can look to, whether it's on
Speaker 1: the rubber, whether it's mixing up the pitch, mix throwing
Speaker 1: one pitch more, uh, discarding another picture that has not
Speaker 1: been effective. So I mean, these are things you really
Speaker 1: do need to focus on. And look at what Blake
Speaker 1: Snow did when he came back in August. He changed
Speaker 1: up his repertoire. I mean, you look at look at
Speaker 1: the the percentage of pitches he threw and how he
Speaker 1: threw them. So I mean, even when you're good, there
Speaker 1: are things you can get better at. And but even
Speaker 1: if can Tana pitched to a three NB year, right,
Speaker 1: if he gave me those innings, if you're taking risk
Speaker 1: of your guys earlier, to Frank's point, you do need
Speaker 1: to fill them in with these guys that will give
Speaker 1: you anings and could be under four R Mattimo, we
Speaker 1: only have like a minute left here with you with James.
Speaker 1: With James Paxson, the home runs went from nine seventeen
Speaker 1: to twenty three last year. Now he moves over to
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, Is that something that you worry about? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the long will is worried some. The fact that he's
Speaker 1: left handed and I think helps him out in that park.
Speaker 1: But I'm always getting bet on the talent here. For me,
Speaker 1: the main concern with Paxton is the health. It's not
Speaker 1: the ballpark I'd prefer him to be pitching in Safego,
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't like the Yankees number one
Speaker 1: head number two, but he should get a bunch of
Speaker 1: four wins with that team. So over the past three seasons,
Speaker 1: Greg James Packson three five two year grade one point
Speaker 1: one six with that's that's the top five team. Start
Speaker 1: me Moodiga, follow him at CTM Baseball and webody has
Speaker 1: to say at the Athletic Manics appreciate time. We'll do
Speaker 1: it again next week. Thanks gentlemen. Absolutely with data break
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