1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: It's time forward. The b a q a A, the 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: b a q A what is saying the b a 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: q eight with Manda, the b a q a with 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: to today. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Let b a q a A. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brade bish question answers. You have questions, We 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: have some answers. Although we're not your mom and your cousin, 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: your financial Adidas all your lawyer are two very smart, 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: brilliant dare I say brown girls who know a little 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: thing about career, money, personal finances. You know what I'm saying, entrepreneurship. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: So you know we're here to answer some questions. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: Well, that's a dead of winter. I'm a dead of winter, 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: so I don't know if I still fit in the 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: brown category. I'm still pale. 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: You're broad and spieling. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: Anyway, we have some lovely questions. If you guys want 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: to be have your questions answer on the show, just 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: slide into our d ms on ig. We're at brand 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: Amission Podcast or you can email us Bredandmission Podcast at 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 3: gmail dot com. Yeah, so let's get into it. Hey Taylor, 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: all right? Our first question comes from Taylor, who says, 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: I just got engaged and I'm looking for advice on 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: how to start planning financially. We currently live together and 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: split our household bills fifty to fifty depends on the 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 3: season and if we use the AC or not. Okay, 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: conet is crazy. We take turns getting groceries for the house, 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: although I shop a bit more since I'm working in 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: the office and don't always pack a lunch. We make 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: just about the same amount of money and have kept 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: our finances separate. I'm planning to do pre mariital counseling 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: with my fiance and wonder if financials will be brought 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: up in those convos. We both have trauma around a 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: parent abusing household finances. I know I prefer to keep 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: all household bills in one bucket and the rest separate. 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: How do you all start to share finances with partners? 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: Were there any strategies you employed to start saving for 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: a wedding? Do you have recommendations on the best or 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: easiest joint accounts? Ally keeps popping up? Thanks for any 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: insights you can provide. Y'all are the bomb. 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: Ooh first of all day day. 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: It's what it? Yeah, it's engagement season. Congrests. Oh my goodness, 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: this takes me back. 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Yes, to early day introduced like combining finances with my 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: husbe too soon. 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: I was like I was in my I had just 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: you know, when we met in twenty fourteen, I had 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: been a few years into my career as a personal 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: finance journalist, poor Husbee or Enrique at the time, because 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: I was just I was kind of preachy. I was 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: very preachy. I used to really put people off my 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: friends and family because I'd be, like, what you should 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: do is I'm just like a hermione. I just know 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: it all and I want everyone to know. And I 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: had a good place like I was coming from. You know, 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: I wanted to help, but I hadn't yet learned how 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: to wait for them to ask me for help. But 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: I remember our early before moving in together, which we 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: moved in together less than a year after dating. I 59 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: think just because like Lisa's New York kind of rush 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: you into decisions sooner than you may otherwise rush. But 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: we had dinner and I broached the subject of like 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: our finance is at that dinner and it was fine. 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: Like we talked about splitting rent fifty to fifty. We 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: talked about how much do you earn? Here's what I 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: earn and also moving in together, Like we talked about 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: is this a long term do you see a future 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: with me? You know, I didn't want to live with 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: him if he didn't think he'd one day marry me, 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: bless his heart. And then I would say around that time, 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I just got more feisty. I was like, show me 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: your credits core. I want to see your credits core. 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: Why don't you show me your credits cor? And I 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: think it was more my o. I think he might 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: have just shown me or told me if I hadn't 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: been so much like we must find if you don't 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: show me, you don't trust me, you don't let me. 77 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: I was just a little extra. So yeah, I had 78 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: my ups and downs early in our relationship, kind of 79 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: talking about finances. We did do pre mariital counseling, but 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: finances didn't come up. I think you're gonna have to 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: like bring that up yourselves as a topic that you 82 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: want to work on, like set the intention of in therapy. 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: This will be one of the things we talk about. 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: We more talked about like I don't even remember. God, honestly, 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: I think it was premarital counseling is fine, but I 86 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: almost feel like don't forget about that when you get 87 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: like year five, you know, six seven, like you need 88 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: more counseling. So we started counseling again just earlier this year. 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was that was our early early arguments 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: about it. We're around me just being a little too intense. 91 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Yo, Mandy, there's a reason why we are friends. Because 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: that was there almost to the tea, including in the 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: credit score. He was like, I don't know. I was like, 94 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: let's sideup for a credit carma right. 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Now, Like get in your laptop and you're I did 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: that girl of a miracle that they put up with 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: the pools anyway, Yeah, so to Mandy's point, I was 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: also aggressive and very annoying. 99 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I was just like with my family and friends saying. 100 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I know the things you know now, 101 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't do that much. I was like, you know, 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: because also there was just a lot of things that 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: I knew that he didn't know. So for example, he 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: had gotten a secured card and he was like, oh, 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: they told me that you like, you know, run it 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: up and just pay a little bit a month. And 107 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: I was like, who told you that? The people who 108 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: are charging you interest? Now, I was say paid off 109 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: in full. Do you have the money? It was maybe 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: like four or five hundred dollars. He said, yeah, he 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: paid it off. Credit score jumped over one hundred points 112 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: because he didn't have much credit history. So when you 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of credit history, one really great 114 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: decision can make a huge impact because your credit history 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: is an average of your choices. So if you only 116 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: have two grades, one A will make a B and 117 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: A you know. And so so what we started to do, though, 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: is so I had to learn because my aggressive ways 119 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: we're not working. I remember he used to call me 120 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: budget East to bully. He said, everybody, Oh, we knew 121 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: you are Budget Easter bully. 122 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: Everyone else thinks we're so nice. But partners, though, said down. 123 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: I was like whatever. So but I learned that my 124 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: bullying ways were actually not working. So I learned to 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: find what I used to call the common denominator, like 126 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: something that we both agreed upon without any push. So 127 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: in the beginning I noticed that like the easiest common 128 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: denominator for Jarell and I was alyssa. You know, my 129 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: bonus starter that like if he spent money on something, 130 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was frivolous. I'm like, oh, that's fine, 131 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: but we all still put money aside for Alyssa, right, 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and he would because there's never a time that he 133 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: would ever say I'd rather the sneakers than put something 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: aside for a listle. So he'd be like, oh, ooh, 135 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: you're right. And so that's in the beginning to kind 136 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: of loosen him up to make the financial choices that, 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: quite honestly, I thought was the right one that you 138 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: want to yes, that I would like, you know, I 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: would like the comment when it was like, there's never 140 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: any pushback when it comes to Alyssa. And then I 141 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: added a new one because I was traveling and he'd 142 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I want to, you know, travel with you. 143 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: And I be like, okay, well, I'm going to open 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: up this online only savings account and you can open 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: up a separate one, which she did, and when I 146 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: put the money away for savings, you should too, so 147 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: that way the next trip we go on, we can 148 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: go together, so there's never pushback on vacation. And so 149 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I did that, quite honestly for a long time before 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I was able to brouch other things like I think 151 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: your car noticed too high, maybe we should surrender the car. 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: I think we should start saving for a wedding. I 153 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: think we should start saving for a house. By the 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: time we bought this house that I live in now, 155 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: we were able to pay for a cash because it 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: was like fifty percent off because it was a foreclosure. 157 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: We had gotten to a really great space where we 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: were on the same page financially because we had started 159 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: with those common denominators and then learned to discuss what 160 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: are our other goals and what do we need to 161 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: do to reach it, you know, And so I learned 162 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: to change my tone, you know, not to be such 163 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: a budgetist to bully, and he learned to like be 164 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: open to say, oh, this is for the betterment of 165 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: both of us. So I don't know what Mandy, you know, 166 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: does now. But when Darrell was here, we I had 167 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: like a We had an RS and we had each other's. 168 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: So I had my own checking, I had my own savings, 169 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: He had his own checking, He had his own savings, 170 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: and then we jointly had joint checking joint savings. The 171 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: checking account was like the bills account for the house, 172 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: so like we both contributed. He largely contributed to the 173 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: bills account, and then I largely more contributed to our 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: joint savings account, you know, because he had this thing 175 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: where he was like, I want to pay the bills, 176 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, So there wasn't a ton left 177 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: over for savings, but that's where I contributed the most, 178 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, And so like, you know, those are some 179 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: of the choices. So I'll give you an example too, 180 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: like I made significantly more than Jirell. To be candid, 181 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: he never made over sixty thousand dollars a year, and 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: you know I can bring home seven figures, and so 183 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: there's a big discrepancy, you know, And we talked about 184 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: how do we navigate that because sometimes you know, for 185 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: many men, and I understand it can be a hard 186 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: thing for the ego to swallow. His biggest thing was 187 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to live off of what you bring in, Tippany. 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: I want to be able to maintain our lifestyle with 189 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: what I bring in. 190 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: And so really smart, honestly. 191 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it is, honestly, and I love that about it 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: because he could have even been like, girl, what could 193 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: I retire? You know. So what we did, for example, 194 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: for the house was at first we were looking at 195 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: houses to get home to get mortgages, but honestly what 196 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: his income could could cover. It wasn't the kind of 197 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: house that I wanted to live in and a neighborhood 198 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to live in. So we found this house. 199 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: It was a foreclosure, and it was like perfect with 200 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: the savings that we joint saved, you know, where I 201 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: did my most contributing. I had the one hundred and 202 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars there. We used it to buy the house. 203 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: So now there's no mortgage, but his income could cover taxes, insurance, utilities, 204 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: you see what I mean. So it's like he still 205 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: got to pay the bills, but in a way that 206 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: preserved what I wanted, which is this beautiful home in 207 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: this nice neighborhood. But it preserved I pay the bills 208 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: and I can maintain our lifestyle, you know. And so 209 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: like those are the types of conversations you want to 210 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: start to have, like where do you want to live? 211 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: We each got our own allowance, and we could have 212 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: spended however we wanted because I know we were both 213 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: contributing to the household, which I had our own savings. 214 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: You could do what you wanted because as long as 215 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: them the bills were paid, and then the joint savings 216 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: was saved. That excess money is yours to do what 217 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: you want with. So I learned to leave him alone 218 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: when it came to that. So those are some of 219 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: the things that we did, and you know, hopefully that'll 220 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: be helpful. It's going to be just a constant conversation. 221 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: You guys should be talking about money always. Something that 222 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: Mandy actually introduced me to. Mandy when you started working 223 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: with Helen, you know, I didn't have a financial advisor 224 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: at the time, and you said that Helen helped you 225 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: kind of like be a tie breaker like you and husband, 226 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, And so I suggest that too, finding a 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: financial advisor that your meeting with, especially in the beginning regularly, 228 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: because they will help to walk through your goals and 229 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: how do you reach them together. And that way he 230 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: feels he's heard and you feel like you're heard too. 231 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And it just basically like he listens to 232 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: her to me, even though she's saying what I could say, 233 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: you know, but obviously she has way more training than 234 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: I do as a financial planner. But yeah, that's kind 235 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: of what I was getting at too with premorital counseling, 236 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: Like they're not going to be able to give you 237 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: the financial advice, but they can help you learn how 238 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: to approach it if it becomes like this, really, you 239 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: mentioned both having trauma financial trauma in the past, so like, 240 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: if it's really tough to even get the conversation started, 241 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: maybe it's good to start in a premarital counseling and 242 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: then work your way up to like getting a financial 243 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: planner and then but I would just say, like, you'll 244 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: find the system that works for you. For us, it's 245 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: it is one joint like household expense account and one 246 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: joint savings and then we have our separate accounts where we, 247 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: you know, have money for whatever we want to buy. Oh, 248 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: she asked, any strategies you employed to start saving for 249 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: a wedding. Yeah. We moved in with his parents and 250 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: cut our I had never been earning more in my career. 251 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 3: I think I was about to take a job making 252 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: like forty K more than what I was earning at 253 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: the time, and for some reason I snapped and I'm like, 254 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: we have to save all this extra money, Like I 255 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, just get a nicer apartment. 256 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: We moved him with his parents into a tiny apartment 257 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: and way in Wood Upper Manhattan and gave up our 258 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: lovely two bedroom apartment in Queen's and basically lived off 259 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: of You know, we were able to save the majority 260 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: of our income, which helped. You don't have to go 261 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: that drastic. But I was hell bent on not having 262 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: debt for my wedding, and I was also hell bent 263 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: on having a gorgeous wedding. So if you both want that, 264 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: it's easier to make that decision together. We both really 265 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: wanted a nice wedding, so I think it was easier 266 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: for him to say yes to my crazy idea that 267 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: we lasted. We lasted like six or eight months there. 268 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: I think saved like twelve thousand dollars. It was nice. 269 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's okay. 270 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: We had to get out of there. 271 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Same thing. Like like Mandy, we lived really simply, Like 272 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Darrell was a super for housing and we lived basically 273 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: on campus. I mean it was a cute We had 274 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: a townhouse, but rent was because he worked there. It 275 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: was severely discounted to like nine hundred bucks a month, 276 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: nine to twenty. And so we lived there and we saved, 277 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: and we both agreed, and it's not something you have 278 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: to do, but we were both agreed because I mean, 279 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: I got married at thirty seven, so I didn't necessarily 280 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: want like a big old wedding. And so we decided, 281 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: do we want to spend this money on the wedding 282 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: or do we want to set aside to purchase a 283 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: home together, And so we said, let's have a simple wedding. 284 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: So we did justice at the piece. A friend of 285 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: mine has this really nice restaurant that she closed down 286 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: Bonda for us, and Mandy was there and so we 287 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: just like, that's what we did. My mom was distraught, 288 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: of course, because I'm Nigeria and how dare I not 289 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: have an extravagant, ignorant wedding. 290 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: It was my favorite Nigerian wedding. It lasted. What was 291 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: I even? It wasn't even a wedding, It was just 292 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: a reception. 293 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I loved it. 294 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: It was the best. 295 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: My friend Andrea, she made my dress. She's like she's 296 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: like now she's like some famous like wedding dress designer. 297 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: She like one like making the cut on them with Pattie, 298 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: Heidi Koum and Tim Gunn. But like yeah, I mean 299 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: she was big then to Pantoa Bridal. She made my 300 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: dress and gifted it to me. My my friend JP 301 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: did our video for free. Honestly, it was like the 302 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,359 Speaker 1: I don't think I spent two thousand dollars, like including 303 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Alyssa's dress, Jurrell's close from like Banana Republic, you know, 304 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: all everything photos and but it was beautiful because after 305 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: it was said and done, we purchased I wouldn't have 306 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: had the money to purchase the home cash. I didn't 307 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: know at the time that this house was going to 308 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: come up. But not only did we purchase the home cash, 309 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: we paid off my student loan debt fifty thousand dollars 310 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and we were able to pay off my parents' house 311 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. And so for us 312 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: it was like and for all partnered people, you have 313 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: to decide what's your design outcome jointly as well as individually, 314 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: and make the decision from there. So to Mandy's point, 315 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: like you know, if you can reduce how you're living, 316 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: however that looks and set aside. Right now, Citizens Bank, 317 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: we don't I don't work with them or anything, but 318 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: they because all I think is like three point three. 319 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: So I moved my money from ally to Citizens Bank 320 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: is three point seven, So like. 321 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: Narrates are going up, yes, but like joint bank accounts, 322 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: he just wanting to be sure they're really easy and 323 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: simple to next your external accounts too, especially if, like 324 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: unless you're both going to move all your stuff to 325 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: that one bank account, which would be easier. But like 326 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: Enrique has a bank account that I don't have, and 327 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: I have my personal one with Ally, and then we 328 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: have the joints. So as long as you can do 329 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: auto transfers, that has worked for us. It took a while, 330 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: but I was like, dude, automatically transfer money into Ally 331 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: each month so that I know we'll have enough to 332 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: like get daycare covered and stuff like that. But yeah, 333 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: for your savings, for sure, I would just choose the 334 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: bank with the highest interest rate because you want that 335 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: to be easy to get to but not too easy 336 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: to get to. But yeah, good luck on this journey, 337 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: and congratulations Taylor on your engagement's. 338 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: What do we love to hear? Because you know we well, 339 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: I well, damn, I'm gonna say we're all married couple, 340 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: married ladies now, But I'm like, I don't know, do 341 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I still feel married? 342 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: You're a rich aunty. 343 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I know I am a rich Jounty. The first time 344 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: someone said like, oh, you're not married anymore, I was like, oh, 345 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: shut up. Now I'm just like yeah, Now I'm like, 346 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: well I'm a. 347 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: Rich two guys put together so long, like you can't 348 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: just you know, look at your relationship as the years 349 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: you were married. You know, you guys had a storybook. 350 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: From me, it's always storybook when someone's like, honestly, it 351 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. But yes, like, yes, I have a 352 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: rich aunte now, so we'll say that, but yes, keep 353 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: asking your questions, bring them on there, we have one. 354 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Well we're gonna take a break, right, mandra Yeah. 355 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: And take a little break and come back with one 356 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: mode question. Yes, So we'll see you on a little. 357 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Bit and we're back. We have a question. Oh her 358 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: name is Tiffany girl. I like that name. Hey girl, 359 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: But hey, ladies, I'm a huge fan of your podcast. 360 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: You all need a show, like seriously. Okay, I have 361 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: a fairly simple question. However, it's so hard for me 362 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: to get by it. How do I find funding to 363 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: start my business. I'm twenty seven and have new savings 364 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: and I want to flip properties, but I have no 365 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: money to start. Please help, Okay. 366 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: You squeeze blood from a stone. 367 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever heard, well, have you 368 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: ever heard of house hacking? Mandra, Yeah, but I need 369 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: a refresher. So house hacking, young Tiffany, I love this 370 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: twenty seven. Oh he's so fresh and for a life. 371 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: So house hacking is when you live in a house 372 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: ideally ideally like a multi family house, let someone else 373 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: pay the rent, you know, and then save from that place, 374 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: so like you know, you're saving on you not having 375 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: to pay rent, someone else is paying the mortgage for you, 376 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: and then you use that money or you could even 377 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: pull out money from that property to purchase the next property, 378 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, and so. 379 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: Exactly what producer and money is doing right now. 380 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: Exactly, and so I would you know, like if you 381 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: The thing about purchasing at home is that you can 382 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: use something called leverage, Like leverage comes from the word lever, 383 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: and a lever is like a doorknob. So you think 384 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: about the small little doorknob could open this. 385 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: Big old door. 386 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: How is that right? So the same thing with the 387 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: way when you leverage your money in real estate, you 388 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: don't have to come up with a full amount like 389 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: I have purchased my properties some of them cash, but 390 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: you don't need to do them. You can literally leverage 391 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: by you know, putting down giving an fah loan, putting 392 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: down three and a half percent, so you don't have 393 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: to put down the full five hundred thousand or two 394 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: hundred thousand or whatever, maybe three thousand and four thousand 395 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: and five thousand, which means you do have to save something, 396 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, and then you use that leverage to purchase 397 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: an asset that is much greater than what you initially invested. Patience, 398 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you fix it up while you're there, 399 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: do a little something to it, find yourself some you know, 400 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: someone who's going to rent, and then you know, after 401 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years you're able to pull out some 402 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: money from that property as well as hopefully you've saved 403 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: some of that rent money you're getting to then purchase 404 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: the next thing. And so that's what I would suggest 405 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: for you to start. There's some great resources, so many 406 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: some I don't know if that all United Ways still 407 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: do this, but some of them. You might want to 408 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: look at your local United Way. Oftentimes they have something 409 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: called an IDA program, an Individual Development Account program. This 410 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: is a program where can you take like a series 411 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: of classes, and the United Way has partnered with the bank, 412 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: and some banks just do this on their own. So 413 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: you can look for individual Development Account programs at different 414 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: banks and then they will pledge if you put a 415 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: certain amount of money in and you take these courses 416 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: or classes, they will then grant you money, like in 417 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: multiple So if you put up five hundred, they might 418 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: say for every five hundred you put up, we will 419 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: multiple times for that's what the IDA program that I 420 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: used to teach, so literally when I was working at 421 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: the United Way, people took my course. If they say 422 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: that up to five hundred dollars, at the end of 423 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: the course, they got two thousand, which is great and 424 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: so like, so look for IDA programs. Another thing, there's 425 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: Naka Naca love Naka the neighborhood. I forget what stands for, 426 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: but NAKA, right, it's this on this nonprofit organization that 427 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: helps new homeowners purchase home so you can get a 428 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: multi family I think up to four families with NAKA 429 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: and NAKA will typically help you lock in a much 430 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: lower interest rate than any place else and they commit 431 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: for you to have no down payment. They really help 432 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: with like no down payment, help with closing costs and 433 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: you get a lower interest rate than what's out there, 434 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: and so look at for NAKA programs also too. I 435 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: would just consider, like, you need to start taking like 436 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: these free first time home buys courses to understand the 437 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: home buying process in general. You know, like, you know 438 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: what is it you know, what is insurance going to 439 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: look like? What is that going to look like? 440 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: Shoot, property taxes. 441 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: Yes, but also too, well, how do you get more 442 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: in a mortgage? Also too, you're going to want to 443 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: to connect with realtors in the area that you're considering purchasing, 444 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: because oftentimes realtors will have their ear to the street, like, oh, 445 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: you know what M ANDT Bank has a twenty twenty 446 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: thousand dollars grant, this bank has, you know, there are 447 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: grants all over And so I would say for the 448 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: next honestly year to inundate myself with taking these courses, 449 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: meeting with realtors, you know, reaching out to banks to 450 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: see if they have any grant programs, doing your you know, 451 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: your your research, and if you do that, before I 452 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: start flipping, I would house hack and maybe consider doing 453 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: some renting and so I can get some money up 454 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: to do the thing that you're wanting to do. 455 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious because she says she wants to save 456 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: up money for her business, which I'm assuming is the 457 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: house flipping. Should people who are thinking I feel like 458 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: house hacking. You know, you buy the home under your 459 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: own name and then rent it out. Excuse me, if 460 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: you're wanting to then get into home flipping. Do you 461 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: get a business entity like an LLC and then you 462 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: purchase under that entity or are people out there flipping 463 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: houses just like as themselves? 464 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: I mean, ideally, you can definitely get an entity because 465 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: you want to be protected anytime you have a business, Yes, 466 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: and including that kind of business. For someone who's never 467 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: flip before, I suggest hacking first because it's basically a 468 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: slow flip. You know, you get someplace, hopefully undervalue. Maybe 469 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: you need some new toilets, blah blah blah. You're living 470 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: there and fixing it up while you live there and learning, Oh, 471 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: don't work with that contract or he's a thief. Oh 472 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: that's a really good painter. You're starting to build your 473 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: team while you're house hacking. So when you finally get 474 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: the money together, then you know, and you have a 475 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: team together, then you can consider flipping. I do not 476 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: suggest flipping right off the that unless you're partnered with 477 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: an experienced flipper and you're kind of like working side 478 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: by side, because you can do that too. Oftentimes these 479 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: flippers have no admin assistance. They're a mess, So you 480 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: might want to look for a flipper and offer your 481 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: services to keep them organized so you can learn on 482 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: the job. That's something you can consider. 483 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: Too, and like start inundating. Like Tiftien said, inundating, I 484 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: forget what you said with education around, you know, the 485 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: home ownership process. I'd also recommend like following blogs or 486 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: tiktoks from people who are in like doing it, doing 487 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: the thing that you want to be doing, and just 488 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: learning from their experience. I know blogs or so two 489 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: thousand and four, but I remember Paula Pant from afford Anything. 490 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: She used to do this in Atlanta, and I would 491 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: read her blog and she was like very transparent about 492 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: fixing up homes and living in them and renting them 493 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: out in that whole process. And I anyway, she has 494 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: a podcast called afford Anything. Also Bigger Pockets. I feel 495 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: like it's more real estate investor focus, So maybe add 496 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: those to rotation with brown ambition as well, and give 497 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: yourself time because it's not something you want to jump into, 498 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: you know. So I like that TIFFs like house hack 499 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: and make it a slow flip because you're learning and 500 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: all of that and saving, you know. 501 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: Join these There's like a ton of like Facebook groups, 502 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: so you can kind of sit back and like listen 503 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: and learn because I like one of my friends, Christina, 504 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: she she flips homes in Saint Louis and they do 505 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: meetups all over the country where they just talk to 506 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: each other, they share information. So you really want to consider, like, 507 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: as I said, inundate for the next year, just inundate 508 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: yourself with I'm part of this group. I join this 509 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: meetup before you really start to like you're gonna it's 510 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: a very expensive process. So the more education you can 511 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 1: have because you're going to make mistakes and they're going 512 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: to be pricey, but they can be reduced in price, 513 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you if you take the time for education. 514 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: So good luck to you. 515 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: Tiffany, that's Tiffany on Tiffany, y'all for v a q A. 516 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: All right va fam again. If you want to submit 517 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: your questions, you can hit us up at ig on 518 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: ig We're at Brown and Mission Podcast. 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