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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always

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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Let's give it up for

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Speaker 1: a one and only super producer, the Man, the Myth,

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Speaker 1: the Legend, Mr Max Williams. And uh, let's also well,

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Speaker 1: they called me ben. Uh. Let's also give it up

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Speaker 1: for my ride or die, very good friend of mine

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Speaker 1: here in spirit, Mr Noel Brown. Noel is out for

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Speaker 1: a bit, but we'll be returning soon. Uh. Nevertheless, we

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Speaker 1: have been speaking a lot offline and it is our

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Speaker 1: fondest wish that the show go on. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to have a couple of special guest host in the

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Speaker 1: next few episodes. And this is where I would like

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Speaker 1: to introduce our very first special guest host in this lineup. Folks,

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Speaker 1: give it up for Mr Max Williams. He called that

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Speaker 1: I'm slippings. You didn't know how many of us we

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Speaker 1: like sight Machine great? Oh yeah, yeah. We searched long

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Speaker 1: and far. We we really worked hard to find someone

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Speaker 1: We did our do Dilon let me give you a

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Speaker 1: little background on Max Williams. For anybody who is not familiar,

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Speaker 1: So Max Williams, you know him, you love him from

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Speaker 1: shows like Ephemeral, from shows like Ridiculous History. You may

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Speaker 1: also know that he is a fan of curling, is

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Speaker 1: a fan of war history. He is a fan of

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Speaker 1: might have to fly this as an explicit if we

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Speaker 1: do that, right, So okay, So in this case, then, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about survival today and nowadays. I

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Speaker 1: think for anybody who's a fan of presidential lore like

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Speaker 1: you and myself, Max, you might be astonished to learn

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Speaker 1: just how wild the lives of past US presidents were.

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Speaker 1: In many ways, they have adventures that seem straight out

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Speaker 1: of straight out of the big screen. You, Noel and

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Speaker 1: I have talked in the past about all kinds of

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Speaker 1: strange things. Most recently in US presidential lore we talked

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Speaker 1: But today, Max, you and I are talking about a

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Speaker 1: Jackson was convinced this attack was politically motivated. This was

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Speaker 1: the first attempt to assassinate a sitting president, and the

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Speaker 1: media and the public went nuts. Talk about the proliferation

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Speaker 1: of speculation and conspiracy theories here. Jackson himself was certain,

427
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Speaker 1: and he says, I know where this came from. He

428
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: was certain that a rival politician named George Poindexter was

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Speaker 1: behind it. He thought, point extra hired Lawrence to kill him.

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Speaker 1: The problem was, Jackson's certitude didn't seem to be backed

431
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: up by evidence. Yeah. No, I mean, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it would make sense considering all the visual

433
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Speaker 1: of the time, But it also makes way more sense

434
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Speaker 1: that this guy, as we later found was just you know,

435
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: not all there say at least, But I mean, this

436
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: didn't stop Jackson from you know, going out and pretty

437
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: much declaring that this is fact and that all these

438
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: wigs must pay. Martineau actually has an account of that

439
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: night when everyone was like hanging out afterwards. Yeah, later,

440
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: same day, later that night, she goes to a party.

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Speaker 1: M Jackson is at this party. Before we proceed with this,

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Speaker 1: what is this party for? Is this party just a

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Speaker 1: part of the Hardy schedule? Is it a party like

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00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: a wake party for the guy that there's there at

445
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: a funeral? Or is it a party because Jackson survived

446
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: someone trying to shoot him twice and then he beat

447
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: the living ship it out of him? Beat me, please,

448
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: max self peep. I love it. You know, that is

449
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: a good question. I I'm tempted to think that it

450
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: was already planned. I'm tempted to I don't know, somebody

451
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Speaker 1: correct me on this. I'm tempted to think there was

452
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Speaker 1: something already planned, but it became a celebration of a

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Speaker 1: couple of different things, you know what I mean? Like you, uh,

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Speaker 1: you have a friend whose birthdays on July five, and

455
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: you were already having a July fourth party that weekend,

456
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: so you know, double up, bang for your buck. So

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like someone who's born in Christmas and

458
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Speaker 1: has to celebrate their Christmas President a birthday presidents at

459
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Speaker 1: the same time. They really get skimped out that way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel for you folks. You know, um the moral

461
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Speaker 1: fortitude that you have grown. That's the real present, is

462
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: something that some other line your parents fed you. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here's what Martineau says at this at this party, right

464
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Speaker 1: after someone tried to kill the president before two hours

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Speaker 1: were over, the name of almost every eminence politician was

466
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Speaker 1: mixed up with that of the poor maniac who caused

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Speaker 1: the uproar. Jackson protested, in the presence of many strangers

468
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Speaker 1: that there was no insanity in the case. I was silent,

469
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: of course. He protested that there was a plot and

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Speaker 1: that the man was a tool, and at length quoted

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General as his authority. It was painful to

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Speaker 1: hear a chief ruler publicly trying to persuade a foreigner

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Speaker 1: that any of his constituents hated him to death. And

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Speaker 1: I took the liberty of changing the subject as soon

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Speaker 1: as I could. What do you change the subject to? You?

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Speaker 1: Are you like? Wow? Yeah, that's crazy. So is this

477
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: the Washington eggnog recipe? So tell me the story. I

478
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Speaker 1: up that bullet in your lunge, right, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be hard person to change the

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Speaker 1: subject of. It's if you change the subject, and they

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Speaker 1: would listen to you change the subject, then immediately go

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Speaker 1: back to what they were talking about. He seems like

483
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Speaker 1: that type of person. And I mean what is interesting

484
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Speaker 1: also about this is, I mean we've seen this, unfortunately

485
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Speaker 1: with a lot of conspiracy theories and less cle of

486
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: years there if you yell them loud enough, you don't

487
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: actually have to put any truth behind it, and that

488
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: we saw that in this case. So despite no evidence

489
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: of this conspiracy, I mean, there's absolutely no connection whatsoever

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Speaker 1: to the Wigs hiring Lawrence to kill Jackson, Sensationalism took

491
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: over the story. It was just everywhere, absolutely And I

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Speaker 1: do want to say that some conspiracy theories with the

493
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: benefit of retrospect, do end up being true, just actual conspiracies,

494
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: but this was definitely a blossoming of conspiracy theories where evidence,

495
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: if there was any evidence, took a far back seat.

496
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: A paper in Boston was saying, rumor is circulating a

497
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: thousand stories. They were probably at a loss trying to

498
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: figure out which to print. People were asking media questions,

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00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: very valid questions. Was Richard Lawrence a hired assassin? And

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Speaker 1: if so, logically who hired him? These are the things

501
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: that immediately went through Jackson's mind when he realized he

502
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to die from that first gunshot, picked up

503
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the cane and his like weird kill bill moment. Uh,

504
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: he immediately, you know he I would not be surprised

505
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Speaker 1: if in his mind at that point he's physically beating

506
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Speaker 1: Point Dexter, you know, and that's what he's thinking of.

507
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Speaker 1: But the two main suspects in Congress are his Jackson's

508
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Speaker 1: former VP Calhoun, who has to go to the Senate

509
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Speaker 1: and publicly declare his innocence, and then the President of

510
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: course says it's that bastard Point Dexter, the senator from Mississippi. Uh,

511
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Speaker 1: he's involved in this and it was never proven again,

512
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Speaker 1: but it probably cost index or his reelection because that's

513
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: some bad pr What did the Whigs do? The Whigs say,

514
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: the conspiracy goes even deeper. The Whigs named Andrew Jackson

515
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Speaker 1: as the chief conspirator in his assassination attempt. They say, look,

516
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Speaker 1: everybody knows you're a jerk and you're trying to make

517
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Speaker 1: America forget that and like you because you survived this

518
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: fake assassination attempt. Shades of Alex Jones here. Uh, but

519
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Speaker 1: you teased it you teased it really well, Max, Was

520
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: there a conspiracy? No, Richard Lawrence was just not right.

521
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Speaker 1: So obviously this guy tries to kill a president, he's

522
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Speaker 1: gonna go to trial. He goes to trial, and yeah,

523
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: it becomes very very evidence. So not he did the

524
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Speaker 1: painter believe the president had killed his father. He believed

525
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Speaker 1: that Andrew Jackson had killed Richard Lawrence's father, which no,

526
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: he was also convinced he was a fifteenth century king,

527
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: King Richard the third, not not a descendant. He thought

528
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Speaker 1: he was Richard. He was Richard Lawrence the third. He

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Speaker 1: thought that, and he was also I mean, so a

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Speaker 1: little context right here. This is when Jackson's trying to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the Bank of the United States. At

532
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: this point in time, the the centralized the bank, blah

533
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: blah blah. That's a big thing that's going on in

534
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: history here. And he's convinced that the bank is going

535
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: to pay his money, and Jackson's doing that so he

536
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: will not get his money, as we can see, not

537
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: really all there. Yeah, but he's got he's got a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of confidence, which goes a long

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Speaker 1: way in this country. Confidence. Here's one of our cinematic moments.

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Speaker 1: The famous attorney Francis Scott Key is the chief prosecutor.

541
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Speaker 1: The trial happens just a few months later in April

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Speaker 1: of eighteen thirty five, and during the trial, King Richard

543
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Lawrence the third says to the jurors, it is for me, gentlemen,

544
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: to pass upon you, and not you upon me. Yeah. Yeah.

545
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Speaker 1: He was actually found not guilty because of because the

546
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Speaker 1: reasons of insanity, and he was confined to a hospital

547
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: for the mentally ill until his death until eighteen sixty one. Yeah,

548
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he he was never convicted of his crime, though,

549
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I think about that. Yeah. Also, we have to point

550
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: out that if we're being if we're being completely honest,

551
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: this is a pretty harsh punishment because hospitals for the

552
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: mentally ill, all all facilities for people with mental issue

553
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: whose are terrible places. Well not all, that's hyperbolic, but

554
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: the majority of them are very very bad places at

555
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: this time in the US and in Europe. If we're

556
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: being if we're being honest, So so what does Jackson think? Uh?

557
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: The guy who tried to kill him twice has been

558
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: ruled insane. Congress has done some investigations, The Court of

559
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: public opinion, as adjourned, they found no conspiracy. Is Jackson happy?

560
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Is Old Hickory satisfied? Oh no, he's still not. Now

561
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's still beefing it. He is so beefed

562
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: right now. This guy he thinks. He says, look, there

563
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: must have been some kind of cover up, because I

564
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: still think the Wigs were somehow involved the Whig Party.

565
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: And in eighteen thirties Evans the end of his presidency,

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Speaker 1: someone asked him if he has any regrets, And that's

567
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: a question that can be tricky for a lot of

568
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: public figures to navigate, and they're very rarely honest about it.

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Speaker 1: So he says, yes, I regret I was unable to

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Speaker 1: shoot Henry Clay or to hang John c kel who

571
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: the worst enemies started friends. I guess, I guess. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think granted Henry Clay had been

573
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Speaker 1: an opponent his for a long time, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Henry Clay, he would have in

575
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Speaker 1: president in saying that's a good thing, that's a thing,

576
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm as soupan He went to his grave

577
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: believing that Richard Lawrence was hired by those guys. Yeah,

578
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I'm mythologizing a bit to say

579
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Speaker 1: that he and Calhoun were friends. Because of the way

580
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: the appointment of the vice president works back in that time,

581
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: it's very different from the way a vice president works today.

582
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel like they have changed that law by that

583
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Speaker 1: point because a little weird history thing. It was the

584
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Speaker 1: runner up in elections became the VP. I think they

585
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Speaker 1: changed that after Aaron Burr became the VP, because everyone's like,

586
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Aaron burn should not be the president. They were found

587
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: with Aaron Burn's the VP. But Aaron Burr nearly became

588
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: president in eighteen hundred and if you've seen Hamilton's you know,

589
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Burns not a good guy in history. That's right,

590
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: That's right. It's the twelfth Amendment. It was eighteen uh yeah,

591
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: to be used in the A T O four election. Okay, yes,

592
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: So so they probably did appear to get along at

593
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: some point, but they became bitter enemies, is to take away.

594
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: And now we're we've got to talk about a couple

595
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: of other failed assassination attempts, just to bring some attention

596
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: to these, because if you're a kid in the US,

597
00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: you know all the stories about the successful assassination attempts

598
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: and odds are you're very aware of two, and you

599
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: may not know too much about the other ones. You're

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Speaker 1: aware of the assassination of Abraham Lincoln at the Ford Theater,

601
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: and you're aware of the assassination of John Kennedy at

602
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: that motorcade in Dallas, but you might not be aware

603
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: of all the other attempts to assassinate US presidents. Again,

604
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: it's a very dangerous job. Sarry Ice Road Truckers. Uh.

605
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: You you are statistically, I think, probably safer than a president.

606
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Speaker 1: I mean, that is so true. To put in summary,

607
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Speaker 1: Eight of the forty six presidents in our in our

608
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: country's history have died in office. I mean four of

609
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: them have been natural causes, natural causes and putting quotations.

610
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: We're not sure about two of them. Yeah, but there's

611
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Speaker 1: four that have been assassinated. Obviously, you said JFK. You

612
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: you said Abraham Lincoln. Those are the two of very

613
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: famous ones. But then also we have William McKinley, Yeah,

614
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: it was assassinated, And then we have Garfield was assassinated too,

615
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: and they're not as famous. Oddly enough, McKinley is the

616
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: one that surprised me because it was actually his VP

617
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: became very famous, which is Theodore Roosevelt. But what gets

618
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: even more mind blowing is when you see how many

619
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: assassination attempts there have been, and there's a lot more

620
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: in history now because you know, Secret Service have gotten

621
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Speaker 1: more sophisticated, the classifying of documents that we know about

622
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: attempts against like you know, recent presidents such as you know,

623
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Speaker 1: Bush Obama, such as those because we just have more

624
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: sophisticated technology, and then planning online. But there were some

625
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: assassination attempts that were pretty pretty scary. So Ben I

626
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: suggest we each do one. We just pick our favorite one.

627
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: We do one, Okay, I'll play your reindeer games. I'm

628
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna go with you know what, I'm gonna go with

629
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: someone that we we should probably talk about more often

630
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: on this show. I'm gonna go with William Howard Taft.

631
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: That's a good one, right there. What about you? Man? Um,

632
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: I'll go with FDR. It's not now actually scratch that.

633
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm going in Theodore Roosevelt. He wasn't technically a president

634
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: at this point, but I'm gonna go with it. Perfect

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Speaker 1: all right, Here we go So William Howard Taft is

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Speaker 1: probably most commonly known for two things. One being president

637
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: and then you know all his public service. He was

638
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice as well, and as senator. This

639
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: guy went through the ranks. Um. He's also known for

640
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: being stuck in a bathtub, which is those are just

641
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: like two big things. So it's a it's a one

642
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: and a two. Be there's no one. It's a one

643
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: to be. Let's be honest about Taft. The one is

644
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: he got stuck in the bath The two be so okay,

645
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: So it's nine. And Taft is supposed to meet with

646
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: the president in Mexico at the time, a guy named

647
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: poor Feario Dias. This is going to be the first

648
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: ever meeting of this sort between Mexico and the US.

649
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: And additionally, it's gonna be the first time a US

650
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: president has entered the has crossed the US Mexican border

651
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: as it stands at that time. And in the in

652
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Speaker 1: this article, we found by Audrey w U five infamous

653
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: presidential assassinations and attempts. The news of the meeting led

654
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: to a bunch of assassination threats against both the Mexican

655
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: and the US president, such that multiple armed force groups,

656
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: multiple intelligence groups on both sides of the border were

657
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: all enlisted to try to provide security. October six, nine,

658
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: day of the summit, there's a Texas ranger walking around.

659
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: He gets worried that there's somebody out there with a pistol.

660
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: The guys he's well, he was walking for sure, so

661
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: maybe they're related and was grandfather or something great grandfather? Yes, yes, uh, okay,

662
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta bring that one back later in

663
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: a later episode. So okay, it's kind of all right.

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Speaker 1: This guy Texas ranger walking not walker, is looking around

665
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: because he hears that there is an individual in the

666
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: crowd at the El Paso Chamber of Commerce standing armed

667
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: along the route that the US and Mexican presidents are

668
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: going to take justice Taft and Diaz are passing. The

669
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: ranger finds the man, disarms him and restrains him. So

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00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel as climactic maybe as the Lawrence Jackson

671
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: assassination attempt, because the firearm never like, it never got

672
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: to the point necessarily of even those presidents being aware

673
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: that their lives were at risk. And you have to

674
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: ask yourself, Um, I asked myself this all the time.

675
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: How would history have changed if water both of those

676
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: men were assassinated. It's an impossible question to answer, but

677
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: it is a fascinating one because if Half died that day,

678
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: then all of the other influence he had on us

679
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: government would have never come to pass. Yeah, I mean

680
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: has said it's an impossible question to answer completely, so

681
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna really try to answer it, but it

682
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: People don't think of Taft as influential as he really was.

683
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he was known like because you know, Teddy

684
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: result was known for burking out the trust, but in

685
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: four years, Half broke up more trust than him. And

686
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: as he said, he was the chief Justice of the

687
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: Supreme Court for nine years. This guy is very influential,

688
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: very important. We would probably know more about him if

689
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: he had a second term. And that's where we get

690
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: back to Teddy Roosevelt and his assassination attempt. M hm. So,

691
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: for for those who don't know this, Teddy Roosevelt was president,

692
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt decided he wanted to go hunt lions in Africa.

693
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's actually what he told people who

694
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: was going to go to and so then he was like,

695
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: you guys should vote for Taft. Tafts was pretty good,

696
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: but then Teddy Roosevelt came back and said, I want

697
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: to be president again, and they were like, we like Taft.

698
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: So Terry Roosevelt was like, well, they obviously like me better.

699
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: So he made his own party called the Bull Moose Party,

700
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: and he ran against Taft in nineteen twelve. Oddly enough,

701
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: this is how we got Woodrow Wilson, who was not

702
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: a favorite. He was not considered really in competition, but

703
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: because they split the vote, he got the election. But

704
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: let's go to a date October fourteenth, nineteen twelve. Eddy

705
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: Roosevelts getting up on a stage to give a speech.

706
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: He's got this big, fifty page main script. He was

707
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: known for, like Jackson, talking a lot and being very loud,

708
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: and maybe not as angry and racist as Jackson, but

709
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: he was known for being a very passionate speaker. But

710
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: there was a gentleman in the crowd by the name

711
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: of John Schrank. Mm hmm. I said that one, right, Shank,

712
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: It's like a dollar store Shrek. Let's go with it.

713
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: So Johnny Johnny asked, we'll call him. I'm gonna call

714
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: him that he has come under the impression that I

715
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: guess his favorite president, William McKinley, was secretly murdered. Remember

716
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: we mentioned he was one of four presidents ssassinated by

717
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: no other than Teddy Roosevelt, So Teddy Roosevelt could have

718
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: sent to the role of presidency. Remember this was in

719
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: one so eleven years passed by this point. But Johnny

720
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: s is just waiting in there in the crowd. Roosevelt

721
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: gives up there to give a speech, and he pulls

722
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: out a cult revolver, a big gun, and shoots it

723
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: and hits Teddy Roosevelt right in the chest. And then

724
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt turns his head and looks at Johnny ass

725
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: and says, don't hurt him to the crowd, what you

726
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: do that for? Remember this guy who just got shot

727
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: is there and he's like, what did you do that for?

728
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: And Johnnys is just son. He's like huh, and then

729
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: you just say. He says nothing. He's apprehended the dragon away.

730
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: And then Roosevelt, being the absolute badasset he is, turns

731
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: his head and he says, friends, I shall ask you

732
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: to be as quiet as possible. I don't know whether

733
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: you fully understand it that I had just been shot,

734
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: but it takes more than that to kill a bull moose,

735
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: and you have buns his shirt and shows all the blood.

736
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: So it turns out that he has manuscraped his glass.

737
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: He had all this stuff in his breast pocket and

738
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: that's where the bullet did it hit. So he still

739
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: got hurt. The bullet still went through, but it wasn't

740
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: as you know, deadly as you would think. So, you know,

741
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: people like his aids and stuff like, okay, Mr President,

742
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: we have to get the hospital. You gotta go and

743
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: h No, I am, I'm here to give a speech.

744
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm giving my speech. Come on, come on, He said,

745
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: I'll give a short one. How about that, guys, I'll

746
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: give a short one. Okay. He goes on for ninety

747
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: minutes because he's Teddy Roosevelt, and then he eventually leaves,

748
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: goes to the doctor and what's funny enough, as they're like, well,

749
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: let's just leave the bullet in there. So similar to Jackson,

750
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: he just lived the rest of his life with a

751
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: bullet in his chest. Did not win re election, by

752
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: the way. No and Shrink ended up being found guilty

753
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: of the attempt, but like Lawrence before him, he was

754
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: sentenced to spend the rest of his life in an asylum.

755
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: In his case, he was in the state of Wisconsin. Uh. Yeah,

756
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: and it's strange Teddy Roosevelt goes on to live until right.

757
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: I think we could we could put both of those

758
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: stories in our official list of underrated assassination attempts. Yeah,

759
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: most definitely. I mean there were real attempts that was

760
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: both of them got fair. I mean Teddy literally got shot,

761
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: and I mean, I guess we don't really know from

762
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: the story who the assassin at the Taft assassination was

763
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: going forward to going for tap through the Mexican president.

764
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: But where was he going for both? I mean, unfortunately

765
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot of these stories there are multiple people wounded

766
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: and killed, so, um, we don't know. But it's like

767
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: these were both very very close to really changing the

768
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: whole thing of history. And Ben, I'm gonna set you

769
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: up for one more. I don't know if it's I

770
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: would really call it an assassination attempt, but it was

771
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: an assault on a sitting president. And I know talking

772
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: to you off off, Mike offline, Uh, this is a

773
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: personal favorite of years. So I'm just gonna let you

774
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: take this one away. Oh man. Yeah, let's double dragon

775
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: this one first, Uh, Max, can we can we play

776
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: the clip? We'll play this for you, ridiculous history and

777
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: see if you can guess what this is about. All right, well,

778
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: ding ding d prize to everybody who heard that and

779
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: just recalled one of the Uh. I always say hilarious,

780
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: but of fascinating. It was pretty hilarious, dude. This video

781
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: on the rag, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's kind of

782
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: gone viral. Uh So it's December four. For six years,

783
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: the US has been searching for weapons of mass destruction

784
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: and Iraq and they're just not finding any. Then President

785
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: George W. Bush visits the country before he plans to

786
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: leave office, and he is there with the Prime Minister

787
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: of Iraq at the time, Nori alb Meliki. Uh and

788
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a news conference in Baghdad, and Bush says,

789
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: Bush is trying to tell this crowd of people, Hey,

790
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: this conflict went on longer than people wanted. You know,

791
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: nobody loves a war, but this has been necessary for

792
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: quote world peace. And that's where we meet our hero

793
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: of the pranks today. Yes, that hero is Muntadar Alzaiety.

794
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: Apologies once again for my pronunciations there. So he is

795
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old journalists working for the Egyptian

796
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: based television service called Al back Dotti, and he stood

797
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: up and he has something he wanted to say to Mr. Bush.

798
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just with his words. It was with

799
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: this I don't know it. Would you call them his actions? Yes? Yes,

800
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: So he takes off a shoe and he starts to scream,

801
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: this is a gift from the iraqis this is a farewell,

802
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: kiss you. Dog shouts in in Arabic, and he flings

803
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: his shoe at the president who Matrix dodges it. Matrix

804
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: dodges it, and I will say it w had some

805
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: moves man, very quickly. This one's going straight for his head. Uh.

806
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Not the same to be said for the second shoe.

807
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: So Alzaieti reaches for his other shoe, because you know,

808
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: we worked two shoes, and he throws it while screaming

809
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: this is for the widows, the orphans and those who

810
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: were killed in Iraq. Yeah and uh, these are serious things.

811
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: And this journalist, who is overcome with the with the

812
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: horrors of war, has chosen not to use a firearm.

813
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: I would say this means that it counts much less

814
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: as an attack and much more as a protest. Right,

815
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: it is a protest. You also have to know that

816
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: there's a reason he's throwing shoes and not tomatoes or something.

817
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: Shoes in in this part of the world can be

818
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: used as great instruments of insults because the implication is

819
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: that you are lower than dirt. You are beneath my feet,

820
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: You are beneath the feet of this country. You monster,

821
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: is basically what this journalists the same. But if you

822
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: look at the video that we just played a clip from,

823
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: you'll see that the four or U S President is

824
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of smirking after he does that first first dodge,

825
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: which is objectively is a good dodge, and then he

826
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: kind of tells secure secret security to stand down. Weird

827
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: story in case anybody's wondering what happened to the shoe, Well,

828
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: the shoes were you would naturally expect them to be

829
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: booby trapped somehow, but they were not packed with explosives,

830
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: nothing like that. They were regular shoes. They were this

831
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: guy's shoes. He took off his shoes and threw him, uh,

832
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: threw him as a protest the shoes. I heard Max

833
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: that the shoes themselves after they were revealed to be

834
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: just regular regular shoes. Uh, they were actually destroyed with prejudice,

835
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: like exploded. Oh yeah, I mean I feel like that's

836
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: if you send the president anything that he doesn't want

837
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: or they think might be dangerous, I feel they just

838
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: blow it up. Do you agree with that, like assessment

839
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: therapet I feel like it's within your abilities and privileges

840
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: as comman under in chief executive privilege there. Yeah, you could.

841
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: You could just say I don't like it, blow this up, Like,

842
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: but sir, it's a it's a from your child, right, yeah, right,

843
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: it's a watercolor painting from the son of the ambassador.

844
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well I get a picture of me

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Speaker 1: but we hope you enjoyed this. Look at failed assassination attempts,

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Speaker 1: Everybody tune in. We've got some more special guests on

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Speaker 1: the way. We're going to explore some strange stories about marathons,

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Speaker 1: fast food, those spoilers. Other than that, meantime, the last

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Speaker 1: Mr Noel Brown. Noel, hope it did you proud. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna end the episode the way that you always do.

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