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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Let's see, the Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: is a very friendly environment. We like to bring others

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Speaker 1: in and welcome them into what we're doing, right, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: we sure do. And the person who's our co host

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Speaker 1: today is somebody who I was just felt so familiar

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Speaker 1: and comfortable with that when I ran into her at

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Speaker 1: jingle Ball, I hugged her, I think, and I was like, so,

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Speaker 1: it's a good to see you. And I realized afterward

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Speaker 1: that I had never met her in person. But that's

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Speaker 1: just how it is with this show. You feel like

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Speaker 1: you know someone before you meet them for real and

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Speaker 1: bends absolutely. Then you also have never met this co host.

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Speaker 1: You would you like to introduce the girl who's sitting

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Speaker 1: next to me? I would, Yeah. So we know her

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Speaker 1: from the Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. She's a fan favorite,

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Speaker 1: has an incredible story to tell with twists and turns,

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Speaker 1: just like we all do. Taylor, No One, Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: It's almost here his podcast. Thank you for having they

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Speaker 1: excited to be here. Taylor, for all the listeners out there,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna sit around with us all day today, talk

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Speaker 1: hot topics, and there's plenty of them, but let's get

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Speaker 1: started with you. We know you, uh from whose season

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Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, and then what how would fans know

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Speaker 1: you from your time on Paradise? Yeah, so I was

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Speaker 1: on Nick next season that was season one, Um left

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Speaker 1: Karin with Karin um, yes, and then I was on

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Speaker 1: Paradise and was engaged with Derek. Fun stuff. Well we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that later. Yes, we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: Derek questions to pepper you with, but right now we're

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Speaker 1: going to just that, Taylor. Right now, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about our hot topics. Both you and I were

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Speaker 1: at jingle Ball. Hannaby was there. We didn't see her.

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Speaker 1: We had a whole Bachelor crew in the forum lounge

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Speaker 1: and it was it was you, me, Chris Souls who

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Speaker 1: made his first appearance since his accident two and a

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Speaker 1: half years ago. Um, then it was Jared Dean, Kaylin,

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Speaker 1: Christian Haggarty Demise ex fiancee, and um who was my

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Speaker 1: missing Angeline Catherine? Uh yeah, Angela and I think that

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Speaker 1: was it. But yeah, but we did see Hannah. That's unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: I wish she was there. Yeah, it's actually I saw

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Speaker 1: her at the red carpet did Yeah, briefly saw her there, um,

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Speaker 1: but then yeah, she was nowhere else to be found. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she is. She probably just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: in and get out. I saw her there. No, she

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Speaker 1: was there all night. Oh really half the night with

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Speaker 1: I feel like she's NonStop at appearances. So mhm, it's

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Speaker 1: a busy world for a what do they call that thing?

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Speaker 1: What's the ball that they went on Dancing with the stars,

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Speaker 1: I wonder I can't remember back when, but Hannah has

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Speaker 1: kind of caught fire here recently. I do think it's

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Speaker 1: weird that she didn't see you, although I mean I

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Speaker 1: would have loved to meet some fellow bachelor people. Well,

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Speaker 1: now you're making like it's like shady, but there's no

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Speaker 1: shade to it. So but there is shade. There is

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Speaker 1: There is a component of shade that we can play here,

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Speaker 1: and that is the fact that Christian came but Demi

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Speaker 1: canceled last minute. So is it possible that she was

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Speaker 1: too nervous to be at the same event as Christian

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be a bleep talker. Amy's arrived.

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Speaker 1: That cost me that she canceled at the last second. Wait,

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Speaker 1: why what were you going to do? And I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to be like that, but like I really was

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Speaker 1: not happy about it. She canceled like an hour before

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Speaker 1: you got our driver and stuff. You mean why it

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Speaker 1: was so expensive? Yeah, I got our driver, and I

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Speaker 1: can't cancel a driver. I don't know if people listening,

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of times when their celebrity events, you

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Speaker 1: send a car and and Taylor is probably sitting there

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Speaker 1: going I didn't get a car. Okay, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: tell the story because whatever. I don't care, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know if you guys know this,

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Speaker 1: is I mean, I was so ticked because the seats

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Speaker 1: we gave you guys are good. Yeah, that was completely

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Speaker 1: sold out. Those tickets are between five each. So wait,

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Speaker 1: did she call you to tell you that she wasn't coming? No,

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Speaker 1: someone else called me to say she wasn't coming, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, could she just have decided this? Two days ago?

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Speaker 1: People were begging for the tickets, like do you know

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Speaker 1: Romeo Romeo? Miller told Romeo yes, And I told that

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Speaker 1: right to be I don't know, you guys judge if

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Speaker 1: I think last minute cancelations for anything that's business oriented

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Speaker 1: is never never looks good. I mean, if she didn't

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Speaker 1: not a little Romeo. I think she could have canceled

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Speaker 1: You definitely would kind of do this, but not in

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Speaker 1: a business context, Like you would never do that in

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Speaker 1: a business context, but you would definitely avoid an ex

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Speaker 1: it just makes me so nervoud. Well, I've got with Christian,

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Speaker 1: from the first two weeks of Colton season. They've been

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Speaker 1: which we should not always forgive. So I'm not forgiving

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Speaker 1: my friend here. I'm saying, Dean, you're wrong, stop doing

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Speaker 1: When asked if a wedding would ever happen between he

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, she really likes him. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: move on. Karin Olympios your your best friend. You're Bessie,

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Speaker 1: guess like about a year. Anything to say sorry it

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Speaker 1: the next line here, Ben, you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Peter's press release for the season and how you feel

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Speaker 1: normal premiere press releases because I found um a red

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Speaker 1: what sticks out to you? Dash It says that this

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Speaker 1: then you know, then let me know. Yeah, she could

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Speaker 1: still in your mind, then maybe we should touch base

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Speaker 1: because you've been on my mind. Yeah all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I we'll see, we'll have to see.

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Speaker 1: It's less than one month until the premiere of Peters

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Speaker 1: season and I do love the tagline of this season,

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Speaker 1: expect turbulence. Isn't that cute? It's a good one. Some

433
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Speaker 1: more Bachelor hot topics, Caitlin and Jason adopted a new dog,

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Speaker 1: even scarier. So it's very nice to see them add

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Speaker 1: their new addition of Pino too. They're very cute baby Ramen,

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Speaker 1: very cute. Um. Dylan and Hannah recently discussed their wedding

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Speaker 1: and they said that whenever it is that Hannah be Demi, Keatie, Heather,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Johnson will all be invited. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Dylan is connected with a lot of Backster Nation. I

444
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Speaker 1: don't know who Hannah's like group of friends are, but

445
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Speaker 1: I always see Dylan with a group of dudes. I'm

446
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Speaker 1: surprised there's not more names here. Yeah, Like there's gonna

447
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Speaker 1: be Peter there and and Tyler Cameron. Right. I think

448
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Speaker 1: their wedding is going to be an incredible event. I

449
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Speaker 1: have a feeling that's going to happen soon, and we

450
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Speaker 1: think I think it might too. I think it might

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Speaker 1: actually be next summer. Now, do you think that there's

452
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Speaker 1: a kind of couple that would get married on Bachelor

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Speaker 1: in Paradise? Yes? Really, I mean, I don't know. That's

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Speaker 1: just my that's just my a judgment. This My judgement

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Speaker 1: do it that way. So, I mean I feel like

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Speaker 1: they would. Um, Bachelor Paradise alums Daniel McGuire and Robbie

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462
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463
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Speaker 1: in there, there you go. Who knows, Taylor's got a

464
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Speaker 1: face right now? What's the face saying? That's just yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of judgment slightly, Yeah, it's a lot of Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Daniel's in Vancouver and from

467
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468
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Speaker 1: in single life China, trying to make things work. And yeah, Robbie,

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Speaker 1: I mean, good old Robbie. Were you on seasons with

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Speaker 1: Daniel was with Lacy, which was like disaster, um, and

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Speaker 1: yeah Robbie was with Amanda. Yeah. Yeah. Dannie McGuire's gonna

473
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Speaker 1: be one of the weirdest guys I've ever met. And

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Speaker 1: the final tidbit of Bachelor news that we got for

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Speaker 1: you is Bachelor alum Becca Martinez is pregnant with baby

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Speaker 1: you know Becca, I do not. I was actually thinking

478
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Speaker 1: We're going to do a pod swap, but scheduling does

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Speaker 1: not work out, So yeah, I have yet to meet her.

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Speaker 1: And then I was supposed to go to Kendall had

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Speaker 1: would have met Becca there if I had gone. Darn itt.

486
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Speaker 1: Becca is the best I love her and um, I

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Speaker 1: planned than the other one. Yes, yeah, I feel like

490
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492
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Speaker 1: So I had always wanted a meter and hopefully one

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Speaker 1: you from the Derek and Taylor relationship on the show.

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Speaker 1: We're often so just like glued to the person that

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Speaker 1: we had a televised relationship with, and you become kind

598
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Speaker 1: of one in the minds of Bachelor fans. Yeah, So

599
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about that glue right now? Because

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Speaker 1: I feel like your face says you don't really like it. Yeah,

601
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Speaker 1: I mean like I'm not glue to him anymore, you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was a solid almost a year of my life

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Speaker 1: where we were very much attached and I get that,

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Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, like he's his own person with

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Speaker 1: his own life now, and I'm my own person with

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Speaker 1: my own life now. And it's not like I get

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Speaker 1: it's always gonna be a part of my life. It's

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Speaker 1: a part of my story, Um, just way more public

609
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Speaker 1: and in my face than most relationships. So it's a

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Speaker 1: little different and feels a little old at times, but

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Speaker 1: I mean it's also like a very special relationship to me.

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Speaker 1: So can you give us a time one of your relationship.

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Speaker 1: So you guys met on Bachelor in Paradise four four

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Speaker 1: I think it was four Yeah? Yeah? Was it four? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So then you were together for a year, right we

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Speaker 1: lit a little less, Yeah, we were. We met in

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Speaker 1: June and then we're engaged on the reunion show, which

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Speaker 1: was an August, and then broke up in like May June. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was like we were publicly broken up

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Speaker 1: in like June, and then he took a year in

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Speaker 1: between the breakup to go on Bachelor in Paradise this

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Speaker 1: past season. Yes, yeah, did you want to get engaged

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Speaker 1: on that August re union show? No, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it was obvious watching you. Yeah, Um, yeah I did.

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Speaker 1: I was not in that place, and I did make

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Speaker 1: that clear. I think that wasn't. Yeah, so no, I did,

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Speaker 1: I didn't, And I think you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons why why it did happen. Um, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a big part in us breaking up as well.

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Speaker 1: But what do you mean there was a lot that

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00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: must just been manipulated by producers all that, and I'm

638
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: like no, because they also knew that I didn't want that,

639
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: and I like, I think part of it also was

640
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: really just he really wanted that, Like he really saw that,

641
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: and I saw it as an opportunity, And I don't

642
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: think there was anything like malicious in it of him

643
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: being like, oh, I'm going to get her in those

644
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: relations shows. Um. But yeah, I mean even like friends

645
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: that have seen him since then, Um, like a few

646
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: months ago, one of my friends hung out with him

647
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: and it's just like he was like, yeah, like I

648
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: was really in love with her, like I really really

649
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: loved her, And I'm like, oh, yeah, like I think

650
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: he really thought. Yeah. So you're saying it's not for

651
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: military storiesons. You're saying it's not because the producers talked

652
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: him into it, and you said that it's something he

653
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: really wanted. Now, did he really want to just be

654
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: with you forever? Did he want to like get married

655
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: or did he want to have a televised bachelor engagement

656
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and being a bachelor engaged couple. Yeah, I have thoughts

657
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: on that. Um. I think part of it is that, Yeah,

658
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: he just really wanted you know, uh, he really wants

659
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: a family, He wants that life, he wants to have

660
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: someone in his life like that. Um. I think part

661
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: of it was, yes, he saw me as that person.

662
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: But I think the other part of it sure is

663
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: also that piece of attention and you know, just continuing

664
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: something like when you know you want to long term

665
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: date someone, you take the opportunity to just get engaged

666
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: on the show to then have all that extra stuff

667
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: and whatever else. So I think I think that was

668
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: part of it. But I'm not him, so I can't

669
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: say how does having this like relationship to fine you

670
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: mean we're still talking about today, how does it affect

671
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: your like dating life and any other relationship since then?

672
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: It's caused me to be super intentional and super assertive

673
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: in my relationships now. Um, but just in terms of

674
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: like people perceiving me and whatnot from this relationship. It's

675
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing, you know, because I don't necessarily

676
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: can ssider myself to have been engaged. Like it's a

677
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: weird thing. I look at it as like this alternate universe,

678
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: like an alternate reality life that I was in. Um so,

679
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: but to other people it's like, wow, like you were engaged,

680
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: like you had this like full out thing and and

681
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: um I think it makes other people when they first

682
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: start dating me, think that I want all of those things,

683
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: which I do on some level right, but not in

684
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: that way. Um but yeah, it's caused me to just

685
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: be a lot more intentional and assertive and like creating

686
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: my relationships today, I want like my first thought, I

687
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: know our listeners are things, this is like why would

688
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: you say yes? I don't think I actually said yes.

689
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: I was just crying and I was like shaking my

690
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: head like I literally you did it. I was literally

691
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: in shock, like I've literally never already. When I walked

692
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: out there on stage, I like black out immediately because

693
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: the last time I was on stage like that was

694
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: for Women's Hell All, which was like highly traumatic and

695
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: like a freaking Wrestling Rank, like it was literally hyperventilated

696
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: in between commercial breaks and just an absolute disaster. So

697
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: already going out there, I was such a disaster and

698
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: had so much anxiety and was just literally just blacking out.

699
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, afterwards, I literally just went into like total shock.

700
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: And I'm a big talker, so I'm always talking through

701
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: things through and like afterwards, I was in my trailer

702
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: and like your podcast is called let's talk about it

703
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, and even afterwards, like the producers that I'm

704
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: close with were decided didn't talk, and like I literally

705
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: was just silent for like thirty minutes, and I just

706
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: said like tears like streaming down my face, like I

707
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: couldn't even make words. And that's like that's how I know.

708
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that was just shock, Like I had

709
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: never experienced anything like that before, and it's like, what

710
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? It's like, yeah, I do have

711
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: love for him, and you know, want to date him,

712
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Like we were not monogamously together when that happened. Um,

713
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: so I was like I do have love for him

714
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: and I want to date him, but like now now, what,

715
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: like how do I I have no idea? You're not

716
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: monogamously together. And was he aware of this? Was? Yes,

717
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: and he proposed to somebody who didn't even want to

718
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: commit to him, like fullheartedly. Yes. Were you not monogamous?

719
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Because I know you talked about this on your podcast

720
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: a lot. You talked about open relationships and threesomes even,

721
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: and we talked about all the things. I know. I

722
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: say threesomes like that just because we don't normally don't talk.

723
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: It's usually pretty PG over here. UM. But so you're

724
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: the kind of person that you can have multiple relationships

725
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: at one time. What were you open with Derek because

726
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: you didn't like him enough or just because you like

727
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: that style relationship? No, So I wouldn't even say we

728
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: were in an open relationship. We were just single and

729
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: like dating. UM. And I don't think like when people

730
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: are in open relationships or not monogamous relationships, it's not

731
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: even necessarily about not liking someone enough. It's just other

732
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: things are are different. Um. Having you a connection with

733
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: one person doesn't lessen your connection for another. UM. But yeah,

734
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: I think we basically after Paradise, he came to Seattle. Um.

735
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: He was in Seattle for like three weeks, and we

736
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: were having a great time, and you know, he had

737
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: like pushed back his flight like to stay longer, and

738
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: it was sweet and I was like so happy, but

739
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: by the time he left the trip, I was like,

740
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not ready to be like I still

741
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: need more time. And you know, when you get off

742
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: the show, like there's just so much happening, and you know,

743
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: I had gotten off of my season of Bachelor and

744
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: then gone on to Paradise and was like, yeah, like

745
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: I just want to take this slow, Like I just

746
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: want to see what life looks like like you live

747
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: in Iowa, I live in Seattle, Like let's just give

748
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: this some time, and you know, like give ourselves a

749
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: little bit of a breather here. And um, I think

750
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: he was really hurt by that, and and like we

751
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: wanted to be boyfriend and girlfriend, and I basically left

752
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: it as like you know, yeah, I'll communicate with you

753
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: if I'm with anyone, and like you communicate with me

754
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: if you're with anyone, and we'll continue to work on

755
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: this because I would like to work towards that. Um.

756
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: And then you know, we both kind of did our

757
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: own things and saw each other when we could, and

758
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: then there was definitely things that he wasn't fully honest

759
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: with me about that also contributed to things later. Um,

760
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, it wasn't. I wouldn't say we weren't any

761
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: kind of open relationship. It was just us dating and

762
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: figuring it out. And yeah, then then it was time

763
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: for the reunion show. Would you say that his feeling

764
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: spiked during the airing of the show, or that there's

765
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: like a higher round your relationship, Well, yeah, yeah, I

766
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of there's a lot of hives

767
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: around all of it, right, Um, and yeah, I think

768
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: there was also a part of you know, my storyline

769
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: the first time around on Bachelor was really difficult and

770
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily show the best parts of me. And I

771
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: think he really enjoyed the fact that people were getting

772
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: to see a different side of me. And I think

773
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: he you know, I think it also made him feel

774
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: good to know that like he was a part of

775
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: that and that he was helping that he was helping

776
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: me in that way, I guess. Um, so yeah, I

777
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: think that, you know, watching ourselves on the show also

778
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: brought us together. And you know, it's I always say,

779
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: like my favorite Derek that I knew was like Derek

780
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: in Iowa like when I'm there, like with his family,

781
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: Like that was the absolute best possible times we could

782
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: have had where we were super super close. And it

783
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: doesn't make me sad because I think in in a

784
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: different place, in a different time, if we had met,

785
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, totally unrelated to the show, things might have

786
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: been different. Um, but yeah, they're just when I look

787
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: at like the actual timeline of our relationship, so much

788
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: stuff happened, and it's like, yeah, no, wonder it was

789
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: difficult for us. There were there was a lot contributing.

790
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: So close up the picture for us here because I

791
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: want to get to know you too, Taylor, outside of

792
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: this relationship, because I think there's a little bit more

793
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: there what happened after engagement and so clear clear up

794
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: to finish the story here, you get engaged, you're obviously

795
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: together for a while, it ends, um, and then let's

796
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: talk about what you're doing the day, because I know

797
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: you get some cool stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, got engaged. Um.

798
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Three days after that, my stepdad, uh collapsed running a

799
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: race and had went into cardiac arrest and most people

800
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: like don't come back from that, and he did. Um

801
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: lost his medical license for his medical for being a pilot.

802
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Um he was an Air Force I don't know. He

803
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: was actually fine for Paul Allen at that time. Um.

804
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, So basically had a lot of family stuff

805
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: happened where then I stayed in Seattle and the staying

806
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: home and Derek had moved to New York for a

807
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: job and then basically wanted me to move to New

808
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: York and I was like, I have to stay over

809
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: for family. And then my cat was also like dying.

810
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm a crazy cat lady, like loud and proud, um,

811
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: and so I was like I can't, like I gotta,

812
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, stay here from my cat. And uh, yeah,

813
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: we were just not on the same page with what

814
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: we wanted it. And yeah, I have two blaring questions

815
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: before we do move on from Derek, how did you

816
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: get to crying and be so being so hysterical on

817
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: that reunion show to actually putting the ring on your finger? Um?

818
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Did you really wear the ring when I was in public?

819
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: When I had to? Yeah? Um, and yeah, I mean

820
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: I've this was the reunion was in August. And then

821
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: like I told him after, I was like, yeah, like

822
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: I will be your girlfriend, you know, like I will

823
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: commit to you and will be your girlfriend. Um. And

824
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: then it was in October I was in Iowa and

825
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: that was when I really actually fell in love with him.

826
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: And it was unfortunate that then like that same week

827
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: that I was like I'm fully in love with you

828
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: and like I'm in this and I'm like I want

829
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: us to do this. Then I found out a lot

830
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: of other things that we're really heartbreaking and difficult. And

831
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: then that was that was tough. Almost broke up then,

832
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: but stayed together and try to work on things and

833
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: then and didnt engine would you say that you were

834
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: ever in a monogamous relationship with there? Yeah? Okay, so

835
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: was it that October time? Yeah? No, like from the

836
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: engagement they're on out, we were, we were, we were

837
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: monogously together. Yeah, Taylor, you are. I think you still do.

838
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what you what your career is right now,

839
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: but you're obviously an expert and kind of how events

840
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: in life affect you mentally. UM. So you go through

841
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: this whole thing, and I want to try to make

842
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: this so relatable to anybody listening out there. I just

843
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: actually got back from watch from d C. This is funny.

844
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: I want to tell you this, Taylor. Um, as at

845
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Capital One Headquarters talking about a company that I'm a

846
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: part of called Generous, and I'm standing in line and

847
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: they're like, oh so, so a couple of women came

848
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: up and they're like, oh, we loved Almost Famous podcast.

849
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: We're huge fans of Salem. Who you having on this week?

850
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: And I said your name, like, we love Taylor. So

851
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: I know they're listening to this right now, Um, which

852
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: is always fun to know and think about as somebody

853
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: across the country right now is listening to it. I

854
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: want to let you know you have fans in washingt

855
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: d C. Saltimore for like eight years, so yeah, yeah, yeah,

856
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: close to it. So here's the thing, Um, let's make

857
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: this relatable for those type of people that are listening

858
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: out there. Somebody gets into relationship, they don't do with it.

859
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: It's not going to according to plan. The dever feels right.

860
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: Somebody thought it was right for a long time. You

861
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: keep trying to convince yourself keeps disappointing you. Um, you

862
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: get out of it and you sit there and you

863
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: try to recover and heal and process everything that's happened

864
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: in the last seven months of your life. Eight months.

865
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it was for you, Um,

866
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: how do you do that? And where does it spit

867
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: you out? Like at the end of it, when the

868
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: light starts to shine again. What have you learned from

869
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: this whole thing, the show, the relationship, the events that

870
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: have happened through it, to where you are an out

871
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: m M. That's such a good question. That's such a

872
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: big one. Um, there's a lot in that. I think

873
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: for me it was I was definitely in a in

874
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: a phase of like getting to know me a little

875
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: bit more, um, figuring out like what I really wanted

876
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: out of a relationship, what I wanted my life to

877
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: look like. Because when you come off the show, I

878
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: feel like you don't really have like a your life

879
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: is just all over the place, Like there's not necessarily

880
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: um grounding there for you to really like be in

881
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: touch with yourself because there's just so many things happening. Um.

882
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: And for me, it was super important to like be

883
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: grounded being Seattle'll, be with my family, be with my friends,

884
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: get back to like figuring out my career what I

885
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: wanted that to look like. If you've just gotten out

886
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: of grad school, right, Yeah, I had graduated May and

887
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: then was on the show filming in September. Yeah, and

888
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: for me it was like, how do I get back

889
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: to you know, who Taylor is? Like, like that was

890
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: really important, um, And like huge takeaways from the show

891
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: and that whole experience is like you can't please everyone

892
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, like you have

893
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: to remain authentic to yourself and to your story and um,

894
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: just living your life in an alignment with what you want. Um.

895
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways when I reflect on,

896
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, my time and my experience on the show

897
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: is that I made myself a little small and tried

898
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: to please other people and tried to make sure I

899
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: was doing things the right way. Um. And then when

900
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: you look back on that, that's not like you're like,

901
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: who is that? You know? Like that doesn't feel super authentic.

902
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I don't know if the answers your question,

903
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: but those I have a lot of reflections post show.

904
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: Has it affected you still to this day? I mean

905
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: it's been a few years now, Yeah, I mean both

906
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: times on the show, and again it's it's always nice

907
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: like to in a way get together with other people

908
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: from the show because you can all kind of relate

909
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: to this experience, and even this weekend with some other

910
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: Bachelorum after jing A Ball, you know, just having really honest, authentic,

911
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: real conversations, really vulnerable conversations about how this show has

912
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: impacted each of us and it honestly is trauma. Like

913
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: for some people, Yes, it's a great experience, and I'm

914
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: sure for both of you you also have like beautiful

915
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: things to take away from the show. But um, in general,

916
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: it the first time was traumatic and one way, and

917
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: the second time was traumatic in other ways. And you know,

918
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: my own personal therapy for many several years post show,

919
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: and while the show was airing for like several days

920
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: a week, sometimes, um, it literally was trauma. So it

921
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: absolutely does stick with me, and you know, in some

922
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: ways in a really positive way, right because now I

923
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: feel like I sometimes just don't really give about anything,

924
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: and so I just, um will just be myself, regardless

925
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: of if that fits in the picture of what people

926
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: think of therapists should look like, or if it's what

927
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: they think Taylor from the show should look like, or

928
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: someone who has emotional intelligence should look like. It's like,

929
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm just being me, like, and that's just what I'm

930
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: going to continue to do. That was my next question.

931
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: So you got what was your degree in at Johns Hopkins. Yeah,

932
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: so the bachelor's in psychology within minor and human services,

933
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: and then I have a master's in clinical mental health counseling.

934
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: So you were known on the show as the emotional

935
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: intelligence girl. It was a term that you threw around

936
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot. How did your education play a role in

937
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: how you handled the Bachelor experience? Yeah, well, I think

938
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: going on, everyone was like from producers to friends to

939
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: like strangers, everyone was just like, oh, well, like you're

940
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna kill it, Like you're just you're so prepared, Like

941
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: if anyone's prepared for a show like this, it's you,

942
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: And like, news flash, you're never prepared. Um uh. And

943
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: I think for me it was a huge slap in

944
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: the face of reality, honestly, because I was in such

945
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: a bubble in my life with my friends and my

946
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: community of people where phrases like emotional intelligence were just

947
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: a part of our daily language, like that was just

948
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: a part of it. And so I think it actually

949
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: in some ways put me out a disadvantage because honestly,

950
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: it is also a reality TV show and people want entertainment, right,

951
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: And for me, I was very much in a like

952
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I was taking myself a little seriously. People sounded a

953
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: little bit elitist. Yeah, and and to me, like that

954
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: was just yeah, when you look at it in comparison,

955
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: it's going to look like that, and um yeah, to me,

956
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: it was just a part of my daily language. So

957
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: it definitely was a bit of like a wake up

958
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: call of like, um, I guess just knowing that I'm

959
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: in a little bit of of a bubble around people

960
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: who are really interested in, um, you know, personal development

961
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: and challenging themselves in those ways, and um yeah. Then

962
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like, I'm on a reality TV

963
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: show I forgot Did you feel about Did you feel

964
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: like everything that you knew from school made you more

965
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: overly analytical of everything that was going on, like production

966
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: and like how they were trying to poss all the moves,

967
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: the producing moves. Yes, definitely, definitely. And I also felt

968
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: like going on the show, I was just so curious

969
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: to like observe all the dynamics. But I definitely took

970
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: way more of a I took more like the role

971
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: of an observer than I actually allowed myself to be

972
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: present in the experience, which is something I would definitely

973
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: change if that was ever possible. Um, And I think

974
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: that's something I've been more intentional and aware of going

975
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: into any experiences today of just like you don't necessarily

976
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: have to like be the observer, be analytical in this,

977
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: or try to be as objective as possible, like just

978
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: go be subjective, go be yourself like experience this because

979
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: I definitely was very in my head and was very

980
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: much like trying to look out for people and trying to,

981
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, take in all the different dynamics because there's

982
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot that goes on on the show.

983
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: Would you recommend doing it? If somebody asked you today,

984
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: a close friend and they said, hey, we have this opportunity,

985
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: would you say do it? I would ask them why

986
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: they wanted to do it. I would say why, why

987
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: did you want to do it? I wanted to do

988
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: it because I thought what better way to challenge myself

989
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: with being vulnerable than to go on reality on reality

990
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: TV and data Total Stranger. I was a lot of

991
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: the work I was doing with my clients at the

992
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: time was around vulnerability. And I had had someone tell

993
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: me that I'm really great at getting to other people,

994
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: but then I'm actually really not vulnerable, and I have

995
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: a lot of walls up, and so I was already

996
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: challenging myself and my dating and trying to be like,

997
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: how can I let people in? How do I let

998
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: those walls down? And I was also trying to go

999
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: with the flow a little bit more because my life

1000
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: had been so planned out, like I did my bachelor's

1001
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: in three years, went straight to my master's and I

1002
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to be fully licensed by the

1003
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: time on and I'll work the rest of my life

1004
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: as a psychotherapist. So I was like, how do I

1005
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: like get outside my comfort zone and challenge myself with

1006
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: letting go of control and going with the flow and

1007
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: also being more vulnerable and letting my walls down. And

1008
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: the show literally encapsulated all of that, and it was like,

1009
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity before I just go head first

1010
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: into my career. Do I take it or do I

1011
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: walk away? And then always wonder what if? That's the

1012
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: most interesting answer I've ever gotten to that question. Yeah,

1013
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: she's an interesting person. This has been an interesting interview.

1014
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. I want to hear though, Um,

1015
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: what do you up to? Now? I know you have

1016
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: a good podcast, it's booming. Uh, you're sharing your insights

1017
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: and your love for others on this on the podcast

1018
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: tell our listeners about it. Yeah. So the podcast is

1019
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: called Let's Talk About It with Taylor Nolan, and it

1020
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: focuses on mental and sexual health. So right now, I

1021
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: practiced as a psychotherapist in Seattle, and then I'm also

1022
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: going through training right now to be certified as a

1023
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: sex therapist. So I definitely share my own personal experiences.

1024
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: I have other experts on who share not only their

1025
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: professional knowledge, but also their own personal experiences as well. Uh.

1026
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stigma and shame around mental health,

1027
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: but I'm also learning that there's even more stigma around

1028
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: sexual health and sexuality, especially as a as a young

1029
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: woman of color. I receive a lot of shame around that. Um,

1030
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: around expressing and exploring my sexuality. So that's something that

1031
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I try to tackle on a daily

1032
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: basis on not only Instagram but also with the podcast.

1033
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: UM So that's kind of what I'm up to these

1034
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: days and just dating and you know, exploring all the

1035
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: all the fun things. You brought a boy to jingle Ball?

1036
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Is that a boyfriend or is that someone you're seeing

1037
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: just a person I'm seeing. Yeah, it's very Um he's

1038
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: in Toronto. I've really suck at finding people in Seattle

1039
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: to date. Um, so you know he's in Canada. Um,

1040
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: I have someone in London. I talked to you occasionally. Um,

1041
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: there is one person I see in Seattle. Sometimes there's

1042
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: someone in l a I talked to. Uh. So yeah,

1043
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: like I'm just I'm dating and figuring out where it goes.

1044
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Toronto guy that came to jingle Balls,

1045
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: he's really great and I'm liking him, so we'll see

1046
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: where that goes. You made a comment earlier about different

1047
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: people fulfilling different emotional needs, and that's that's super take,

1048
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: but it makes me wonder, do you think that you'll

1049
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: ever be in a relationship? Do you want to be

1050
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: in an monogamous relationship? Do you want to find somebody

1051
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: who fulfills all the emotional needs so which I don't

1052
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: know if that's possible, But yeah, so I was canna

1053
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: say there's I definitely feel there are parts of me

1054
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: that desire monogamy, and there are times I really enjoy monogamy. Um,

1055
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe that someone will ever be able to

1056
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: fully fulfill all of my emotional needs all of the time.

1057
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody can find that. Yeah, and

1058
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: I think that that's unfortunately one of the concepts we

1059
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: have around monogamy that can lead to some really unhealthy relationships,

1060
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: um and and toxic behaviors. But yeah, there's definitely like

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Speaker 1: periods of my life and in times with people that

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: monogamy is what I desire and I want to be

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00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: fully like wrapped up in that one person, and I

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have a desire for other people, but um,

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00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: I don't think like long term that that would be

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00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: something for me at least, you know. Ever since my

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00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: first boyfriend, I've always said, you know, the person I

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00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: marry is not gonna be the one and only person

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00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: I have sex with for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: That that just seems so unrealistic to me, and that

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00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: there were like so like it's so beautiful when you

1072
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: do have a connection with someone, right, Like how often

1073
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: is it that you like someone that they like you back,

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00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: and like timing is right and you have the opportunity

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00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: to actually explore connection, Like I find that that's fairly

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: rare that that actually happens, and when it does. How

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00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: beautiful is that to be able to have the the

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00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: openness to actually explore. Um So, marriage doesn't mean not

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00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: necessarily I think it. It certainly involves periods of monogamy,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't think it's when I do

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: talk about non monogamy. I think people think, you know,

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00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: every weekend you and your partner are out trying to

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00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: find someone else, and like, that's not what it looks

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: like at all. Um there's definitely periods where there would

1085
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, a sense of being closed off

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00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: to other people are not pursuing that. Um and there's

1087
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: times that I super enjoy that as well. Um So, yeah,

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00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: it's not I think I could definitely be in a

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: monogamy miss relationship again, but it would probably be a

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00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: little bit more monogamish. Interesting expression. Never heard that term.

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of cute. Yeah, Dan Dan Savage started it.

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: We've got a few emails you're gonna get too before

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: we do. I uh, I want to ask you one

1094
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: final question to sum all this up. What are from

1095
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: doing the podcast? From from opening up about some of

1096
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: the things have been laid on your heart, the lessons

1097
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: you've learned. What are some things you have learned experienced

1098
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: in the last few months from listeners and emailers before

1099
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: we get into our own emails that you've taken with you.

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Speaker 1: Something I've learned from my listeners, sure, Um, I think

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: I've learned to It might sound a little weird, but

1102
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: just to be more outspoken and standing in your truth. Um.

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00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: I think the more that I talk about taboo and

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00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: very stigmatized topics, the more I feel like it it

1105
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: encourages an and fuels other people to stand in their

1106
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: truths with that and to feel less alone. And I

1107
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: have felt way less alone, and the things I struggle

1108
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: with that I have had to work through some shame

1109
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: around when I share them, and I'm also met with

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00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: the same thing from other people. So I think just

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00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: having that courage to stand in your truth and and

1112
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: be vulnerable in that has been something I've learned a

1113
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: lot to do from from listeners, and I am very

1114
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: much inspired by reading their stories and reading their their

1115
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: messages to me about them doing the same. Where can

1116
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: people find your podcast? Um on Apple, podcast, on Spotify,

1117
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: any place where you listen to podcasts if you're just searching.

1118
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it with Taylor Nolan it'll show up.

1119
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: It's weekly, yep, every week. Awesome. All right, well we're

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00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: definitely going to check that out. You have been so

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00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: articulate in such a pleasure to listen to think you'd

1122
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: talk to thanks. Yes, so I want to listen to

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Speaker 1: you more over there? All right? You ready to get

1124
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: to this email, which is very on brand for this

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00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: season of the batch er. It is flights for the Bachelor?

1126
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Is this from Leah? She asks, I'm dying to know

1127
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: how are flights booked so quickly after someone decides to

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: leave or is kicked off the show early? Then you

1129
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: have an answer for this? Uh there, I mean there's

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: a whole travel department sometimes. I mean, I know there's

1131
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: been scenarios. I don't know if you guys heard about

1132
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: this where the person can't leave like right away, like

1133
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: they have to stay the night or wait till the

1134
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: evening flight out. It's all an illusion that we leave

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: right away. No, I mean people do leave, like they

1136
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: get in a car, they drive to a hotel away

1137
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: from everybody, and they either stay in the night a

1138
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: hotel or they jump on a flight the next morning.

1139
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that. I mean it's impressive.

1140
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: I think it's impressive when you're like in Bali and

1141
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's somebody can get like a

1142
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: flight out of there. I mean, that can't cost that

1143
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: has to cost the show so much money. I can't

1144
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: even imagine what their travel expenses are. No wonder we don't. Yeah,

1145
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: so there's a whole travel team. Somebody gets kicked off.

1146
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure they radio down little Sally Sue is being

1147
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: sent home. Make sure you get her a flight back

1148
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: to San Francisco tomorrow. And somebody's on it. Yep, I

1149
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: have one that didn't make the pages in front of you,

1150
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, just came in late and she

1151
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: does not want her name said, so I'll be careful here.

1152
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: But she says, if you know your partner is getting

1153
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: you a ring for Christmas, like the ring, what kind

1154
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: of gift can you possibly get him? I know that

1155
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: saying yes as a gift, but any ideas of what

1156
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: I can give him that's equally meaningful? Oh my goodness,

1157
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: I love that question. It is not Jessica. Okay, good

1158
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: uh like wait for awkward pause, Okay, so, um, I

1159
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I would say, like, it really doesn't have

1160
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: a price tag on it. It can't have a price

1161
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: tag on it because like, you're not going to get

1162
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: him whatever the cost of the actual ring is. So

1163
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: whether it's a token or a momento that sort of

1164
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: stands for the same thing, which is, you know, togetherness forever,

1165
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to just find what in your

1166
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: relationship symbolizes that then any other options. I got an

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: easier idea, Yes, well that's what she said, she said,

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: oldler than saying yes, what's a gift? Yeah, And I

1169
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: think too she's also wanting to choose him as well,

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01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes that's what's missed in like traditional

1171
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: proposals of that, like the reciprocation, right, And that's beautiful

1172
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: that this listener wants to give back to her partner

1173
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: like that. And I love what you said to about

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01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: finding something in your relationship that um it symbolizes you know,

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01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: your your connection and giving that as a gift. But

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01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: also I mean, why can't you also get a ring

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: as well? And you know, I'm kind of opposed to

1178
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: him the man engagement ring. My best friend actually just

1179
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: proposed to her boyfriend of four years this past weekend,

1180
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: which is so funny. But it was kind of a

1181
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: joke that they always had. She drunkenly one night said

1182
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: you know what, Rob, I'm going to propose to you

1183
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: one day, and then she tried to back out of

1184
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. She's like, you know that,

1185
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: I didn't really mean it. I want you to propose

1186
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: to me. He's like, nope, you said it, like I'm

1187
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: sticking to it. So it wasn't like a surprise that

1188
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: she was the one that got down one ney, but

1189
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: she finally was the one that decided she didn't get

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Speaker 1: down on one knee. And and she actually she has

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: a ring for him, but she has a ring for

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: her too. At the proposal moment, she had a ring

1193
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: for herself, which was a fair family heirloom. She didn't

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: buy it for herself, and and he had actually also

1195
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: asked her dad for permission ahead of time, so there

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: was a bit of tradition to it. That is sweet.

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01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: I any kind of like personal framed something or other

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01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: collage photos, anything meaningful like that. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: great idea. Hey, I just want to remind everybody to

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Speaker 1: come and see you guys life, because you know, you

1201
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: too are modest. You don't want to sing your own praises,

1202
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: but I am so lucky I get to sit here

1203
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: and watch Ben and actually do this lab on a

1204
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: weekly basis. You need to get in on this. It's

1205
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: the perfect holiday gift. What a stocking stuff for Tickets

1206
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Speaker 1: is the Almost Famous Live in San Francisco at the

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Speaker 1: on that podcast. Not to make it awkward is Derek

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Speaker 1: and and Katie Morton right now. We may have more

1214
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: surprise appearances to talk about later. Hey. Also, Um, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you think of this, but after

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Speaker 1: a lot of emails, a lot of feedback, UM, we

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Speaker 1: have the opportunity. We're gonna eat uh interview Chris Souls

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Speaker 1: on this podcast will be airing December twenty three. Cristuls

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Speaker 1: was as mentioned at jingle Ball. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: first times out in a while. Uh. He u is

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine. Obviously. Ashley was on his season

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Speaker 1: and is a friend of Ashley's. We're gonna sit down

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Speaker 1: and Chris on this podcast an in depth episode catch

1224
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: up with him here, his story here, how he's doing

1225
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: here with lessons learned um, but check it out. December

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Speaker 1: twenty Crystals on the Almost Here podcast and a quick

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Speaker 1: shout out to my favorite new place to Postmates. It's

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Speaker 1: called Tokaya Organica and they provided us lunch here today

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Speaker 1: at the I Heart Station. So big thank you to

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Speaker 1: a lot. I actually feel so passionate about this food,

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Speaker 1: this restaurant that I did a little research on them

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Speaker 1: The menu is fully vegan forward, but they also have

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Speaker 1: Between now and the end of the year, for every

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Speaker 1: fifty dollar gift card you buy for someone on your

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Speaker 1: holiday shopping list, you'll receive a ten dollar bonus gift

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Speaker 1: Organica dot com to find your nearest location. Hey, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: follow our lead here. Thanks again Taylor Nolan for coming

1249
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: on the podcast today, hanging out talking, sharing your life,

1250
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: sharing your lessons, your insights. We appreciate you. Um, Taylor,

1251
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Speaker 1: we do a little thing. Here's the Almost Famous podcast

1252
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: when we sign off every time, just follow our lead. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna end here. I've been Been, I've been Ashley,

1254
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: I've been Taylor by later guys by Follow the Benn

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Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I our Radio,

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Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.