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Speaker 1: But our lead this hour from Santa Clara, not San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Santa Clara, that is where the forty nine ers play

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Speaker 1: you about three hours with traffic, so this was the

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Speaker 1: site of the final game of the weekend. There came

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Speaker 1: to an end. The curtain came down. You had Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young and the Panthers skidding in to the Bay Area

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Speaker 1: for a wrestling match with Brock Party. Oh my aching tow, Well,

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Speaker 1: he's back. Brock Party and the forty nine prety missed

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Speaker 1: he's back. This game was billed as the Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: revenge Game. It's all about the revenge. Did you watch? No, okay,

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Speaker 1: you didn't miss anything. I'm not gonna sit here and

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Speaker 1: light you. Oh you should have seen this game. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, No, I'm jealous. I mean I did get

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Speaker 1: paid to watch it. In theory, plausibly got paid to

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Speaker 1: watch it. But man alive. So Christian McCaffrey, he hits

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Speaker 1: the billing. I think it was his greatest game. He

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Speaker 1: first matchup against the team that he played for that

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Speaker 1: gave gave him away and give him away. They got

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Speaker 1: draft picks. Scratch your tickets, but that was the deal.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years back, McCaffrey went from Carolina to

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Speaker 1: then proceeded to get hurt on a regular basis, so

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Speaker 1: his first game there three years ago. Niners haven't won

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Speaker 1: for them. The Niners get the ugly twenty to nine

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Speaker 1: game that was certainly winnable. It's not like the Niners

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Speaker 1: Carolina Pans watching them play, and I don't watch every game,

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Speaker 1: It's like a Nantucket sleigh ride watching them play. They

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Speaker 1: and now they're getting dragged every week. Every week they're

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Speaker 1: getting dragged. And this was another opportunity to prove the

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Speaker 1: he proved them right. He proved them right with this performance.

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Speaker 1: It was an island game. Everyone was watching. Everyone was

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Speaker 1: watching against a battle scarred, weather beaten defense. They did

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Speaker 1: the Niners brock Perdy tried to and the game. The

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Speaker 1: We don't want the guy. Take the guy, take the guy.

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Speaker 1: And what happened. Well, the quarterback there, Bryce Young's like,

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Speaker 1: we don't really want that big road win. No, we

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Speaker 1: why would we want that to come on Bryce. Now,

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Speaker 1: what a debacle, What an absolute debacle watching Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: Playing right back's gonna suck. I don't even know if

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Speaker 4: you know, we're all competitors. It sucks to have this

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Speaker 4: picture you think of that's that's not a good recipe

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Speaker 1: You know, he reminds me of a zombie. He's saying

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Speaker 1: like it's legit, Like you know what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 1: ever talk to him his phony. I do a podcast

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Speaker 1: you talk about blowing an opportunity. I mean, this was it.

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Speaker 1: And here's a refresher course, by the way, on Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young is not a super nova. He is not

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Speaker 1: a super nova. He's the Panda Express. Sweet and sour

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Speaker 1: chicken is what he is. He's a that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: so a week ago, somehow the Atlanta Falcons should be

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Speaker 1: sent to the Canadian Football that we should trade the

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Speaker 1: Falcons for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. They allowed Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: the previous game, this week one hundred and sixty nine yards. Now,

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Speaker 1: we did expect this to happen, right, We expected him

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Speaker 1: to have a worse performance. Of course, because he had

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Speaker 1: a career game. You're gonna be worse. And this is

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Speaker 1: more of the standard performance for the quarterback there, Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that is a sixty two decline from

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Speaker 1: his previous performance. The two interceptions, now, brock Purty gift

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Speaker 1: That is literally, as we said, giving you the game.

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Speaker 1: And what did Carolina do. They turned those three interceptions

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Speaker 1: into three points one field goal. That's it, that's all three.

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Speaker 1: That's criminal. In fact, this entire game was an FCC

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Speaker 1: warning obscenity and decency and profanity watching this particular game.

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Speaker 1: And hey, we were never really in on this guy,

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Speaker 1: the little fella. We're definitely out on the quarterback, Bryce

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Speaker 1: This and the Carolina Panthers, they swung big, They traded

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Speaker 1: bumping that is regular mouthfeasance with him out there, quarterback

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Speaker 1: Or wherever you get your podcasts. So I had a

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why would you do this? It's

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Speaker 1: being the Yankees. So that is a good jumping off point.

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Speaker 1: Let us discuss the question. Yankees owner House Brenner has

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Speaker 1: quote concern over the Dodgers payroll and the fact that

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Speaker 1: they've won now back to back World Series. How does

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00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: that one hit you? How does that one hit you?

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Speaker 1: So I've got Goose, Red Bull, and iron Man, and

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Speaker 1: we will combine all of these things together and we

429
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Speaker 1: are going to hit the bullseye right there, bang bang,

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Speaker 1: right in the bullseye. So number on. My first thought

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Speaker 1: is boo freaking who You've gotta be kidding me, right,

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Speaker 1: I thought? When I saw these quotes, I initially thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this has got to be like Sports Talk Berry the

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Speaker 1: Onion butt Crack Sports, one of the parody sites, one

435
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: of the gag sites that Goose sends fake stuff up.

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Speaker 1: So I read it again, and then I read it again,

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00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: and then another time I went back and late I said,

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Speaker 1: let me do that one more time, just about I

439
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: don't want to get punked here. Yeah, this hits you,

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00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: It's real. It hits you like a fifty pound cartoon

441
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: anville of Hutzba. It just boom right at the top

442
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: of your head of hutsba. His old man, George, George

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Speaker 1: George George George George George Steinbrenner. He'd said, well, ifs

444
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: and butts were candy nuts and all that, but if

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Speaker 1: Steinbrenner was still around, it is more probable than not

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Speaker 1: that George Steinbrenner would have gone to the Winter Meetings

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Speaker 1: this year, which haven't happened yet. He would go into

448
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Speaker 1: the Winter Meetings. He would kick down the door and

449
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: then enter like the kool Aid man and going there

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00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: and he'd sign not one, not two, but three, three

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Speaker 1: All Stars out of pure spite because the Dodgers have

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Speaker 1: won back to back World Series. He'd signed a starting pitcher,

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Speaker 1: he's signed a closer, and he'd sign high Swarber. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'd do it. He'd do it. The kids not so much,

455
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: not so much. Why it's old family money. They inherited

456
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Speaker 1: the cash machine. All right, this is the golden goose.

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00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: You don't want to give away any of the golden

458
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: eggs any more than you have to when you have

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Speaker 1: a golden goose. So they talk about fiscal responsibility, the

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Speaker 1: New York Yankees talking about fiscal responsibility. Does it get

461
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Speaker 1: any zanier than that? Come on, now, we're not at

462
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: the dentist office here, We're not doing some dental hygiene.

463
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Speaker 1: It's the damn New York Yankees. And you're going down

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00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: that avenue. You should never go down that avenue. Cry

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00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: me the Hudson River howl, all right, or even the

466
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Speaker 1: East River. The Dodgers spend and spend and spend. Some

467
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Speaker 1: of the Yankees they should spend the same amount. The

468
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Yankees have a choke hold on the Japanese market. They've

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Speaker 1: got Tokyo covered in Dodger blue. It's a haze of

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00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: Dodger blue and all that stuff. However, what a concept

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Speaker 1: the Yankees. The Dodgers are what the Yankees used to

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Speaker 1: be when the old man owned the team. That's the

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Speaker 1: same thing is Dodgers. That the Yankees never had Japan

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Speaker 1: even though they had some Japanese players, they never owned

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Speaker 1: Tokyo the way the Dodgers own it. So you're in

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00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: a fork in the road the way I look at it,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Yankees here to fork in the road,

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00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 1: you can you can either stop whining and figure it

479
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: out how to beat the Dodgers, or you can do

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00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: what losers do and complain and boo hoooo its not fair. Yeah,

481
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: just like that, Like the Mets, They've entered the chet.

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Speaker 1: The Mets were the only team in the top seven

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Speaker 1: in payroll that didn't make the playoffs. And to that,

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00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: I say good, I say good, you spend big, you

485
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: should be rewarded with the playoff spot. Why would we celebrate?

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Speaker 1: And this is the thing that blows me away. And

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00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: I've known this job a long time, and I've taken

488
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Speaker 1: a lot of calls from people that love cheap bosses.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand cheap bosses. They drive me nuts. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't stand them. I want to work for someone

491
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Speaker 1: that spoils their employees. I want to work for someone

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00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: that takes care of their employees. That would be teams

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Speaker 1: like the Dodgers and the Mets, and teams like the

494
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Phillies that spend a lot of money. That's why I

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00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: want to reform you people. You want to work for

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Speaker 1: the tightwad owner that's who you want to work for.

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Speaker 1: So I don't get it. I don't understand why you

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Speaker 1: would want to work for that person. But you celebrate cheapness,

499
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: You romanticize the minor league system, they prospect, you go

500
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: on and on and on. So why should we celebrate?

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00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: And some makes mine. I'll listen. You explain to me

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Speaker 1: why we should celebrate the penny pinching tightwad owners in

503
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: sports like this is not a coupon clipping contest. It

504
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: should not be a coupon clipping contest. It should not

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Speaker 1: be that. And as the ratings have shown here in

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Speaker 1: the World Series that the Dodgers being the bad guys,

507
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: gotta have a fall guy. I gotta have a bad guy.

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00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are the bad guys, and that's good. Bad

509
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: is good. The Dodgers are the bad guys in every

510
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: league needs a villain, and right now that's the Dodgers,

511
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: and they lean to it into it. Dave Roberts after

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00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: winning the series against the Milwaukee Brewers, when he got

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00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: up to the dais and said, let's ruin baseball. He's

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00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: leaning into the heel character for the Dodgers, and they

515
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: got Shohil Tani and Yoshinobu youam a Moto and Moki

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00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Pets and Freddie Freeman, all these guys. They're the nWo

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Speaker 1: of MLB is what they are, the Dodgers at this point.

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00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: And you don't beat them by moaning behind a paywall

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00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: on the athletic website. There beat them by matching the

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00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: energy you have, the money, you can flex around, the

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00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: money and all that stuff. And Hol's out here wringing

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00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: his hands and complaining like he's worried about the price

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00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: of gasoline and the amount you're paying for eggs, eggs

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Speaker 1: and milk. He's very concerned about all that. So be

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00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: more like your dad. Be more like your father and

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00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: less like the guy you've been. And the payroll isn't

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00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: the problem. The payroll is not the problem here. It

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Speaker 1: is not. The mindset is. And hal did take a shot.

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Speaker 1: There was a subtle shot at Brian Cashman and the

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Speaker 1: players that he's brought in when hal Steinbrenner said they've

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Speaker 1: played to their potential when they needed to, which is

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00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: a sign of Hey, the Yankees haven't played to their

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Speaker 1: potential when they needed to. So it's a little subtle shot,

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00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: a little nuance, a lot of you don't even get it,

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00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: but that's what he said. That's what he said, So

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00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I thought that was that was interesting. It's capitalism in cleats,

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00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: is what it is, and I'm fine with it. The

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00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Dodgers are predators. The Yankees are They kind of sound

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00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: like pray is what they sound like? All right now,

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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Page two two Queens. We go stand in the New

541
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: York metropolitan area and we go across the way. There

542
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: was a big trade that happened over the weekend. Nobody

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00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: paid attention to it because of the NFL, but we

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00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: mentioned it briefly in passing in a previous episode of

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00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: the show. Well, the Mets made a decision to trade

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00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: a fan favorite, Brandon Nimmo is bye bye. They traded

547
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: his ass for Marcus Simeon over the weekend. The Rangers

548
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: the team getting Brandon Nemo and the New York Mexic

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00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Hall a choir Marcus Simeon in the trade. So that

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00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: was the deal. David Sterns, the general manager of the

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00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: New York Metropolitans, addressed all this. He said that last

552
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: year talking about the Mets last year, he said last

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00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: year wasn't good enough and running it back with the

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: exact same group, wasn't the right thing to do? He

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: then put it out at Marcus Simeon balances our lineup

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00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: from the right side, which is something we were seeking

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00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: to do. Close quote a right. Let's jump off on

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Speaker 1: that point question for the esteem panel. Do you expect

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00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon to make a big difference, a little difference

560
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: or no difference in compared to Brandon Neimo for the

561
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five vintage of the New York Mets. So

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00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: the arrow on this one, after a minutes long Mallard deliberation,

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00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: the arrow on this trade it is pointing towards a

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00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: little difference, just a little tick, little tick, that's all.

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00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: That's all, not much, not much at at best, and

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Speaker 1: we know best means as good as all the rest.

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00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: You're not getting the twenty twenty Marcus Simeon. You're not

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00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: getting that guy. He's not that guy. Pal, He's thirty

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Speaker 1: five years old now, been around the block. It's been

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00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: around the block more than the mailman, our buddy in

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00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Nebraska now delivering the mail, listening to the podcast, and

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00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: not just that on like a double shift, like a

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00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: mailman on a double shift, doing that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Three straight seasons. If you look at the law of

575
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: diminishing returns, three straight years, home runs, down doubles, down runs,

576
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: batted in down down, down, down, down, down, down, downtown,

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00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: down down down. Now he's headed to the back nine

578
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: of his career and he's now a New York Met. Congratulations,

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00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: a lot of mild. He's a journeyman, productive player. Still

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00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: a journeyman player. Productive. Yeah, it's been productive. And it's

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: like that. He's a jumper cable, Marcus said, men a

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00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: jumper cable that barely sparks, barely sparks. And we categorize

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Speaker 1: this transaction as a red bull trade. Say it's a

584
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: red bull trade. It's not about baseball. It's about caffeine.

585
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: It's about caffeine. Here, it's corporate adderall for the New

586
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: York Mets that they had to do something to shake

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00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: it up. This is a wake up call. So wake

588
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: up call to the well paid New York Mets clubhouse.

589
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: Guys got comfy. That's the argument the Mets front office

590
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: is making that they underachieved. And when you underachieve, and

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00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: you're very happy with underachieving, you go out there and

592
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: you make a move that screams and this move screams

593
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: nobody is safe with the Mets other than Juan Soto

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00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: who's got the forever contract, but everyone else so right,

595
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Nimmo was the sacrifice and he was the lamb.

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00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: He was the lamb, That's what he was. And so

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00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: they sent him out the pasture. Now think he's from Wyoming,

598
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: so I guess he's cool with going to the Rangers

599
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: and all that. And clubhouse accountability is now a thing

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00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: for the New York Mets. And this is the message.

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00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: You trade more than just it's just more than a

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00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: baseball trade. It's like it just is. That is a

603
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: move that said, well, on theory, they wanted just a

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00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: right handed bat. Okay, they want to balance the lineup.

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00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. It's not about balancing the lineup.

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00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: You're really naive if you think it's about balancing the lineup.

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00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: This is about balancing the ego and keeping all of

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00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: that stuff in check. This isn't a remodel. It's not

609
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: a remodel. It's a rearranging the furniture before company comes over.

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00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: You know, like you have your relatives, especially this week

611
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: right with Thanksgiving, people visiting family and you come into

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00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: town and like, oh, your house is really neat. Well

613
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: that's because they just spent an hour and a half

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00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: cleaning the house before you showed up. Or if you

615
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: have people coming in from your in laws or your family,

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00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: you come, they come over, they clean up. You're let's

617
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: let's clean this thing up. Man, Come on, we got

618
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: to clean it up. Is what we got to do.

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Speaker 1: And that's how it works. So will Simeon help the

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00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: Mets a little? I mean he's going to help the

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Speaker 1: Mets a little bit, but it's more about the noise.

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00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: You're trying to You're trying to change the noise in

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Speaker 1: the substance. Wake up call. Not a cure. Not a cure,

624
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: certainly for the Mets. All right, now, final point. We

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00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans. We go to New Orleans. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, that's a head coach. I bet you didn't

627
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: know Kellen Moore a head coach, right, probably didn't. Well,

628
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: Keller Moore the head coach of the football team in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Obviously not a good Let me just do

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00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: this real quick. This we have a computer that resets,

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Speaker 1: it goes to sleep mode. The companies decided that we

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Speaker 1: we're good for another twenty minutes. Okay, that's outstanding. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you what a great operation we've got here.

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Speaker 1: Is absolutely great. Anyway, all right, Big Time Network Radio. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, that's the back to the point. Kellen Moore,

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Speaker 1: the coach of the Saints, defending the team's decision to

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Speaker 1: have the tarnished creepy kicker Justin Tucker in for a tryout. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that Justin Tucky, thirty six years old. Big fan of

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Speaker 1: the the Robin Tug massage, A big fan of that.

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Speaker 1: Who isn't But he got accused of a bunch of

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Speaker 1: massage therapists accused him of being a touchy feely and

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Speaker 1: all that got sued, No krim charges, nothing criminal. Eight

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Speaker 1: different Baltimore area massage parlors. They got a lot of

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Speaker 1: massage parlors in Baltimore, and this happened. Last incident happened

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, so it's been about a decade, about

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Speaker 1: a decade since all this went down. Anyway, he was suspended.

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Speaker 1: NFL investigated and they suspended him after a probe for

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Speaker 1: ten games. Justin Tucker and he was released by the

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Speaker 1: Ravens back in May after thirteen seasons in Baltimore answering

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Speaker 1: questions from sports with Coleman, and they claimed it was

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Speaker 1: a football decision at the time. So the question why

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Speaker 1: on earth would the nor Lands Saints be taking a

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Speaker 1: look at Justin Tucker at this point would make it

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Speaker 1: make sense. He's thirty six years old. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of baggage there, so why even bother going down this

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Speaker 1: lane if you're the well, the Saints have officially if

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Speaker 1: you didn't know this by now, they have officially hit

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Speaker 1: the rock bottom buffet, the rock bottom off. They serve dirt,

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Speaker 1: they serve little pebbles and it's really delicious, just absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They're six feet under the Saints franchise, all of New

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Speaker 1: Orleans is under, but this season they're on hospice care.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations on that. And this is the team as

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Speaker 1: the lights go out on the season. Yet again, they're

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Speaker 1: turning over every stone at that rock Bottom Buffet, every stone,

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Speaker 1: even the slimy ones. They're doing all of that and

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Speaker 1: it's not about the moral compass. I always loving people.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's about the morality. No, it's not. They sell

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Speaker 1: you a lot of slogans. The NFL is very good

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Speaker 1: at slogans, and they're very good about giving the illusion

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Speaker 1: that they care about certain things. But I've learned over

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Speaker 1: the years that they don't. They talk the talk, they

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Speaker 1: don't walk the walk. The NFL. It's like, let's just

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Speaker 1: give out some pins. We'll do. We'll just put messages

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Speaker 1: here and there, and dumb people like messages, so we'll

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Speaker 1: just go with the messages and that's that, and that

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Speaker 1: will appease the dumb people. But they're really the Saints

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Speaker 1: are back to be in the eights in more ways

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Speaker 1: than one. Right, they're desperate, they're rummaging through the NFL's

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Speaker 1: bargain bind at this point. Welcome to the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: And the greatest quote of all time about this topic

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Speaker 1: of conversation from a brief Fox Sports Radio employee. They

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Speaker 1: hired him for the NFL draft a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: He's more known as the Cardinals general manager Steve Kim,

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Speaker 1: who famously said if Hannibal Lecter could run a four

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Speaker 1: to four, the NFL would call it an eating disorder

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Speaker 1: is what they would call it. For Hannibal Lecter, there's

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Speaker 1: that so and it really sums up the entire NFL

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Speaker 1: in one quote. Like it or not. Football. The game

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Speaker 1: of football is a bottom line business. And the Saints

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Speaker 1: need a bottom the bottom lines. They need a field

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Speaker 1: goal kicker. And they figured, no one's watching our games anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll bring this guy in and if he's kickers, can

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Speaker 1: kick till their mid forties, can play another ten years.

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker in a dome in New Orleans, although he

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Speaker 1: was slipping last year. So it's really simple. It's not

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Speaker 1: that hard. If guy makes the kick teams hold their nose.

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Speaker 1: They signed the paperwork and all that. And there's some

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Speaker 1: really good massage parlors in New Orleans, I've heard. I've

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Speaker 1: not been to any of them, but I've heard they're

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Speaker 1: really good. There's a lot of debauchery in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, that really good time there for

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. Yeah, hell, that man a lot. So it

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Speaker 1: is performance over principles and all that stuff. This cover

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Speaker 1: your nose, signed, the DOCU sign and that's it. And

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Speaker 1: for the NFL, they always go in the answer, do

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Speaker 1: the same thing they use the Iron Man playbook is

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Speaker 1: what they do deflect and absorb. And here's what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say. They signed Tucker. They haven't signedim yet, but

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Speaker 1: if the Saints signed Justin Tucker, it's going to be Listen,

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Speaker 1: we did our due diligence, we believe in second chances.

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Speaker 1: We're focused on football, and they'll do what about is him?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 1: What about Deshaun Watson? What he did was worse than

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. And Deshaun Watson's one of the highest paid

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Speaker 1: players in the NFL, has got guaranteed Money's on the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. You know he's worse. So that's what about is?

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Speaker 1: What about him? What about this guy? So the Saints

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Speaker 1: aren't really interviewing Justin Tucker, They're interviewing their own desperation,

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Speaker 1: and they figure they can get away with it because again,

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Speaker 1: who's watching the Saints. The Saints go marching into irrelevancy

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Speaker 1: and they got no quarterback, they got no star players. There.

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Speaker 1: It's a faceless franchise, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller

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Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Smeller that to the third degree. This is one big

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Speaker 1: Ben gets great.

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Speaker 6: Ravens have won five games in a row and somehow

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Speaker 6: find themselves was back in first place in the AFC

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Speaker 6: North with a two time MVP at the helm. Are

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Speaker 6: the Ravens a team we have to look out for?

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Speaker 1: They're not going to the super Bowl, They're definitely gonna

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Speaker 1: be a playoff team, I would say at this point.

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Speaker 1: But Lamar's actually not even played all that well. I

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Speaker 1: would say the Ravens are a team that'll be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team, But Lamar sucks in the playoffs. He's dinged

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Speaker 1: up seemingly every week. So big picture. No next.

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Speaker 6: Former Browns player Lee Bonden, whoever that is, spoke with

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Speaker 6: TMZ this weekend. Who that is said now is the

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Speaker 6: perfect time for the cleaf for the Cleveland Browns to

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Speaker 6: move on from Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that they should replace him with Dion Sanders.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, Ben? Has this guy seen Colorado

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Speaker 1: play football this year?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Colorado's terrible? So I don't

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Speaker 1: I love Deon. It'd be good talk radio. I'd love

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Speaker 1: it as a talk show host. But he doesn't deserve

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Speaker 1: to be promoted the way he's done, the job he's

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Speaker 1: done in Colorado.

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Speaker 6: Next seems every day we get a new report that

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Speaker 6: another team is interested in training for Anthony Davis. If

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Speaker 6: you have to take a guess on where he ends up,

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Speaker 6: where would that be?

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Speaker 1: How many stays in Texas and goes to the Spurs

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Speaker 1: They like injured players in San Antonio? Why not I

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Speaker 1: see him going across the state over to San Antonio. No,

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Speaker 1: the Bulls, No, the Knicks. Knicks? Then, oh, buy the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: How do we do he passes? That's a winner. Player

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Speaker 1: on the phone. I WoT the game. I won the game.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: listen live. Now Malor's Mountain of Money? Do you have

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Speaker 2: what it takes to get to the top? Probably not?

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Speaker 4: All?

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Speaker 1: Right away we go, it's signed out for Mallos mount

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Speaker 1: of Mind. That's walking in our concessions. Quick right, quick, quick,

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Speaker 1: all right? Who do we we have? Dave in so

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Speaker 1: Cal just down the road there and Sino man. Hello, Dave, welcome,

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Speaker 1: all right, David, Hello, yeah, so Dave. Who would you

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Speaker 1: like to partner up with?

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Speaker 6: Dave?

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Speaker 1: You got me? Or cool? Let me get you? All right, Dave,

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Speaker 1: try to control your emotion. Hold on a sec and

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Speaker 1: then we have any meenie miney moe. Let's say hello

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Speaker 1: to far out Dave. Hello, far out Dave? Hey, hey Ben,

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Speaker 1: you know the time it is mean to you about

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Speaker 1: to work? I doubt that's going to happen. All right,

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Speaker 1: Hold on a sec.

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Speaker 6: Well, the category is quickly cool please all right? So

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Speaker 6: this is a Dave versus Dave matchup. The categories are

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Speaker 6: this Miley Cyrus edition, she turned thirty three on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: We have the best of both worlds, the Climb we

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Speaker 6: Can't Stop and wrecking Ball. So cal Dave, you were

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Speaker 6: on first? Which category would you like? Wrecking Ball?

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Speaker 1: All right? And far Out Dave?

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Speaker 6: That leaves you with we Can't Stop the or the

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Speaker 6: best of both worlds?

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Speaker 1: All right? All right, very good. We'll put forty five

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Speaker 1: seconds on the clock. Gentlemen, we need the first and

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Speaker 1: last name. Dave Socow Dave? Are you ready? Sokow? David Nzino?

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Speaker 1: All right? These athletes have all had a reputation as

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Speaker 1: locker room cancers. We'll put forty five seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 1: We're on our way go. He is a star receiver

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Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's currently facing charges in Miami

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Speaker 1: wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Over.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct. The how about this agent zero

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Speaker 1: for the Washington Wizards, NBA player, also in trouble with

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Speaker 1: the law right now? Former NBA player? All right, he

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Speaker 1: was a third baseman, five hundred home run guy or

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Speaker 1: close to it. Was traded for Mike Piazza from the

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Speaker 1: Marlins to the Dodgers back in the nineties. Played with

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Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Mets and the Brewers, and was

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Speaker 1: a journeyman, hit a lot of home runs. No, how

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Speaker 1: about this legends he slept with Lebron's mom. Internet legend

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Speaker 1: says this guy slept. You didn't get that one? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: of course, all right, ten points, good job, tremendous job.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get Gary Stratfield Delante West Gilbert reads, yes, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, far out, Dave, we have We can't stop that.

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Speaker 6: These athletes are part of some of the biggest winning

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Speaker 6: streaks in their sports.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Far out Dave?

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Speaker 6: Get there, sorry right now. No, the other Dave Dave

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Speaker 6: from Ohio not not soak out, Dave. You're not playing

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Speaker 6: right now, not right now? All right, Dave. Forty five

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Speaker 6: seconds on the clock, begin all right. The best quarterback

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Speaker 6: of all time in the NFL. No, no, no, for

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Speaker 6: the Patriots, Tom Brady. Yes, this guy is the enforcer

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Speaker 6: on the Warriors. He likes to kick people in the nuts.

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Speaker 4: Green.

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Speaker 6: Yes, this guy scored one hundred points in an NBA game.

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Speaker 1: Well Chamberlin, yep.

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Speaker 6: This guy was the wide receiver on the Colts for

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Speaker 6: Peyton Manning after Marvin Harrison. Ahead, Okay, this guy was

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Speaker 6: on the Cleveland Indians. He's now on the Mets.

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Speaker 1: He was shortstop.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Francis Francisco Lindor. Yes, this guy was the center

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Speaker 6: on the Indian Appris All right, day, we're up at

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Speaker 6: socowed David and Cino. You've got the climb, the or

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Speaker 6: the best of best. Both worlds were a climb.

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Speaker 1: Which one you want? Okay, why not? Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Forty five seconds on the clock. We need first and

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Speaker 1: last name. These athletes are in both college and pro

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Speaker 1: football Hall of Forty five seconds. Here we go. Greatest

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Speaker 1: tackle in Rams history from Ohio State, played for the

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis Rams. No for the offensive tackle for the

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis Rams in the two thousands. Yeah, how about

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Speaker 1: wide receiver for the wide receiver for the Chargers nicknamed

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Speaker 1: Bambi in the nineteen sixties and seventies, Bambi, Bambi wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Do you like sports? You enjoy sports? I like you

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Speaker 1: like Bambi? We should? Should we ask Bamby questions a

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Colts when they won the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: A primetime Colorado coach from prime primetime God twenty points? Yeah, Orlando,

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Speaker 1: Orlando pace, Atlanta, Hallwarth Why would you call the player

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Speaker 1: trivia game?