WEBVTT - Karol Markowicz Show:  Brain Drain and Political Divisions with James David Dixon

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started this show about a year plus ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I would talk a lot about the importance of marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted that to be one of the topics

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<v Speaker 1>that I delved into on this program, and it mattered

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<v Speaker 1>to me that marriage rates were in such steep decline.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something that I was very concerned about. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still very concerned about. I think marriage is important for

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<v Speaker 1>society and very beneficial to individuals. You've likely heard all

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<v Speaker 1>of the arguments here.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe elsewhere. I've made them extensively. That married people

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<v Speaker 2>are happier, they're wealthier, they're more stable, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>good things, healthier, they have more sex. What's not to like.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I talked about marriage, I kept looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the data, and what I started to see is not

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<v Speaker 2>that people were coupling and just not getting married. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that they weren't coupling at all either. That was in

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<v Speaker 2>sharp decline as well. There are a lot of explanations

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<v Speaker 2>for why this is happening. Women are overachieving but want

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<v Speaker 2>men who are a higher status than they are, a

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<v Speaker 2>pool that is continually shrinking. And I'm not blaming just

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<v Speaker 2>men here for the decline of relationships. Obviously, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of data that women all want to date the

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<v Speaker 2>same few guys. There's a lot of blame to go around.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it comes down to something even more basic.

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<v Speaker 2>People aren't even making friends. And that's something I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about on the show a lot, because there's been this

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<v Speaker 2>great migration over the last few years, and it's very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to start your life again and make friends as

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<v Speaker 2>you already have reached an age where people just really

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. But the thing is, I saw a

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<v Speaker 2>recent study that broke this down by education level, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was very interesting to me. The study found owned

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty four percent of people with an education of

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<v Speaker 2>high school or below reported that they had no close

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<v Speaker 2>friends at all. The numbers a little better for someone

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<v Speaker 2>college educated. Only ten percent of college grads say they

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<v Speaker 2>have no close friends. But it's important to realize that

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety the number was two percent for college

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<v Speaker 2>grads and three percent for high school graduates to say

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<v Speaker 2>that they had no close friends.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a tiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Number, so this is a serious, serious jump. Also, in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety, forty five percent of college grads had at

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<v Speaker 2>least six close friends, which makes sense, right Like when

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<v Speaker 2>I think about college for my kids, I mostly think

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<v Speaker 2>of it as a social exercise at this point. Who

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<v Speaker 2>they'll meet along the way, what kind of people, and

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<v Speaker 2>who they'll stay friends with. I want that for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do kids learn in college or anymore? Who knows. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think about that, but hopefully they come out

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<v Speaker 2>of school with a few close friends. That number has

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<v Speaker 2>fallen from forty five percent in nineteen ninety. Again that

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<v Speaker 2>college grads who had at least six close friends to

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three percent now, and again it's a much worse

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<v Speaker 2>decline for high school grads. In nineteen ninety, forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of high school graduates had at least six close friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that number is seventeen percent. We should be worried

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<v Speaker 2>about fertility rates, marriage rates, but the fact is that

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<v Speaker 2>all relationships are in collapse, and that should really be

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<v Speaker 2>our first concern. I've had a couple of emails from

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<v Speaker 2>listeners asking how to help their kids make friends. Something

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<v Speaker 2>has happened, something has broken where it's not just something

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<v Speaker 2>natural that happens, it's something difficult that people find that

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<v Speaker 2>they need a way to get over it, and they

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<v Speaker 2>need to seek out advice for how it works and

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<v Speaker 2>how it happens. My own take is that it's, of

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<v Speaker 2>course the fault. We don't have to make friends. We

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<v Speaker 2>carry around a world of entertainment everywhere we go. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how we break that, but we're heading into

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<v Speaker 2>a very bad direction. A few years ago I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>for Spectator magazine an article called the End of Sex.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote, quote, men don't really know who they're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be anymore, and women don't either. Is it anti

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<v Speaker 2>feminists to enjoy male attention? Is it okay to ask

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<v Speaker 2>out a colleague? Everything is so fraud and challenging that

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<v Speaker 2>it's no wonder people are opting out of sex. Who

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<v Speaker 2>needs the hassle. They'll get their dopamine hits from the

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<v Speaker 2>likes they get on their posts and all the internet

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<v Speaker 2>porn they can handle. Why bother with human interaction? When

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<v Speaker 2>life is un sexy, you get on sexy sex or

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<v Speaker 2>no sex at all. End quote. The truth is that

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<v Speaker 2>friendship making is very similar. People are getting the happiness

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<v Speaker 2>from their phone, so who needs that awkward small talk

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<v Speaker 2>of the initial stages of friendship. It's a problem. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just not sure that anyone will listen to the solution

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<v Speaker 2>if it means giving up their phone. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear thoughts on this from listeners. How do you help

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<v Speaker 2>your kids make friends? How do you make friends yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Drop me a line, Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Ka R O L M A R. Kowicz Show

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<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com. Thank you for listening. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>my interview with James David Dixon. But first, after more

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My

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<v Speaker 4>guest today is James David Dixon, host of the Enjoyer Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi James, so nice to have you on.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you, Carol?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? So what is the Enjoyer podcast? What do you

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<v Speaker 3>particularly enjoy?

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<v Speaker 6>What I enjoy, Carol, is to like when I have

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<v Speaker 6>people on, the first question I always ask is what

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<v Speaker 6>do you enjoy about Michigan? And so you could be,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, someone in Washington State who's never been here.

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<v Speaker 6>Perhaps they admire the Michigan football team, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean? So whatever it is, perhaps they admire me.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever it is. We start, we start from that basis,

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<v Speaker 6>uh And and then that's that's kind of the sugar,

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<v Speaker 6>because the pill I give is that reality. So so

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<v Speaker 6>we enjoy Michigan and we appreciate Michigan. But we also

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<v Speaker 6>realized that there's some pretty serious threats and that's what

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<v Speaker 6>I spend the bulk of my time talking about, is

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<v Speaker 6>the threats and what we should do about.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I quite love Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>I spent some time at Hillsdale, so I really love

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<v Speaker 4>that whole area. I've also given a speech I should

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<v Speaker 4>have had that I should have had that that town

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<v Speaker 4>name cued, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a little north of Flint.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I really really liked it.

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<v Speaker 5>Such a gay city, Midlands.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 4>I gave a thousand speeches last year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really like your state.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the whole palm thing. I like that you

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<v Speaker 4>guys show, you know, on the palm where you are.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm like right down here, you know, under

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<v Speaker 3>the thumb.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, people listening on audio. He pointed to the fleshy

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<v Speaker 4>area below the thumb.

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<v Speaker 6>Not quite on the water, but yeah, east easterly in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 6>Southeast Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>So are you a Michigander your whole life? And did

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<v Speaker 4>I nail them?

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<v Speaker 5>Am? You did? You did? So?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's funny because we have Michigander, which I

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<v Speaker 6>started off I believe as a slur Abraham Lincoln and

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<v Speaker 6>then a letter h. And then we also have Michiganian,

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<v Speaker 6>and anyone who uses Michiganian, you know you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 6>the Detroit News reader. Because these papers do things to,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, to to separate each other. We have two

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<v Speaker 6>papers in Detroit, the News, which is allegedly conservative, and

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<v Speaker 6>then the Free Press, which is liberal, flamingly so right,

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<v Speaker 6>and so the politics separate them, but also little things

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<v Speaker 6>like michigany and versus Michigander. And so when the News

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<v Speaker 6>gives their annual award, they give it to like a

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<v Speaker 6>dozen people a year, it's Michiganian of the Year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's so interesting because I you know, Michigan

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<v Speaker 4>is a swing state.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's kind of you know, a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of both.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't always a swing state, obviously. I remember it

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<v Speaker 4>being solidly blue and never you know, going.

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<v Speaker 3>Red really or rarely.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's become quite the swing state in the last

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<v Speaker 4>few years. And it's so funny that it's so divided

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<v Speaker 4>even among like what to call themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, absolutely, it's just is that is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that like the flavor of the state.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, whether it's you know, blue and red for

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<v Speaker 6>political for politics, whether it's blue and green for Michigan

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<v Speaker 6>versus Michigan State. We we love these little these little

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<v Speaker 6>things that you know, the city suburb divide, the suburban

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<v Speaker 6>versus is you know, out state divide.

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<v Speaker 5>We call them out state.

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<v Speaker 6>If you don't live in kind of the main like

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<v Speaker 6>three to seven counties of southeast Michigan, you live out state.

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<v Speaker 6>People from Michigan might be learning that today. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 6>don't know what conversations happened about them when they're not

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<v Speaker 6>in the room. They're learning something today. So right, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>one of my goals in twenty twenty five is I'm

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<v Speaker 6>a Southeast Michigan guy. I love Oakland County, I love Detroit,

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<v Speaker 6>I love Ann Arbor, but I want to venture to

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<v Speaker 6>other parts of Michigan too, well outside my box.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I again, I really enjoyed the whole area

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<v Speaker 4>around Hillsdale. I thought it was really beautiful and calm

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<v Speaker 4>and peaceful, arm and the food was really good, So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I recommend it highly. So how did you

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<v Speaker 4>get into being a local podcaster?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the draw to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so many people love talking about national stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and it's it's tough to kind of focus on, you

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<v Speaker 4>know something. I don't want to say smaller because it's

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<v Speaker 4>not really smaller, just more precise or.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we're concentrated, more concentrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for the word sist.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I think so.

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<v Speaker 6>Before I did the Enjoyer, I was with the Macinaw

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<v Speaker 6>Center and we had a small news outlet called Michigan

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<v Speaker 6>Capitol Confidential.

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<v Speaker 5>They still have it.

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<v Speaker 6>They got rid of me because I wanted to do this,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they saw I had other aspirations, and just

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<v Speaker 6>as a quick aside, I think it's a great example

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<v Speaker 6>of how God can take you places that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>even think to ask. Right, So, if I had what

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted, I'd be doing the Enjoyer podcast, and I'd

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<v Speaker 6>still be at the Macinaw Center and we'd be making

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<v Speaker 6>it work and going up to Midland every other Monday

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<v Speaker 6>and all that juggling the two jobs. But instead of that,

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<v Speaker 6>God said, no, we're going to get you out of there,

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<v Speaker 6>even if it was painful at the time and inconvenient

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<v Speaker 6>and all those things. And then what happened A short

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<v Speaker 6>time later, I end up the second the severance ends.

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<v Speaker 6>I start with the New York Post on their Swing

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<v Speaker 6>state team. So I go from working for an obscure

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<v Speaker 6>policy newsletter in Michigan to one of the biggest news

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<v Speaker 6>outlets in the world covering the twenty twenty four election.

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<v Speaker 6>Only God, I would have never thought to ask for

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<v Speaker 6>that myself. I'm not a greedy guy. I don't ask

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<v Speaker 6>for much, and so he just delivered so much more

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<v Speaker 6>than I could have ever wanted. But what I learned

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<v Speaker 6>at the Mackinaw Center is that limitation breeds creativity. We

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<v Speaker 6>could only talk about certain topics, and we had to

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<v Speaker 6>cover it as policy and not politics. So you're denied

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of the red meat and the lures that

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<v Speaker 6>we would normally use, and so you have to And

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<v Speaker 6>so I developed that. I realized, if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>get people reading about boring ass policy, I need to

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<v Speaker 6>give them something first, and so I look for the

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<v Speaker 6>angle of absurdity in stories like, for instance, Ford Motor

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<v Speaker 6>Company took one hundred million dollars from state lawmakers in

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<v Speaker 6>let's say June twenty twenty two August, So they're going

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<v Speaker 6>to use one hundred million to hire three thousand factory

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<v Speaker 6>workers in August. Two months later, they fire three thousand

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<v Speaker 6>white collar workers. They pulled the Oki dock of all time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's one hundred million dollar Oaki dough. And so when

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<v Speaker 6>you connect those dots and show that angle of absurdity,

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<v Speaker 6>and what you want to look for is the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that is so absurd it can't possibly be real except.

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<v Speaker 5>It is right. And then you draw that, then you can.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell them about your boring at you know, policy, But

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<v Speaker 6>first you have to give them what they want.

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<v Speaker 4>So was that Ford's story did it go Did it

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<v Speaker 4>end up going national because that seems like a big story.

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<v Speaker 5>No, because of the nature of it. But it did

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<v Speaker 5>what it needed to do in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 6>And then at the Enjoyer, I ended up just doing

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<v Speaker 6>a nice video calling out for and saying, Hey, this

0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.000
<v Speaker 6>company is not as good a citizen as you might think.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the most important company in Michigan. It's the reason

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<v Speaker 6>there are Dixons in Michigan and there are black people

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<v Speaker 6>in Michigan. But when you look at how they use

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<v Speaker 6>HB one, when you look at the one hundred million

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<v Speaker 6>dollar Oki dook, when you look at partnering with the

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<v Speaker 6>Chinese military company to build EV batteries. Harry Ford would

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<v Speaker 6>be disgraced by what he sees right now, and we

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<v Speaker 6>need better from a company that important. So it's not

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<v Speaker 6>super popular stuff. I don't think I'm gonna be invited

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<v Speaker 6>to get there.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh, No, there's not. I've not been asked. I might

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<v Speaker 5>have missed it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't check my mail every single day, but I

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<v Speaker 6>might have missed it. But I don't think I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to be invited to give the keynote addressed at Ford's

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a company banquet anytime soon. But what would

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<v Speaker 6>you rather do? Speak for your neighbors or speak to

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<v Speaker 6>a small group of elites?

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you love about Michigan the most? What

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<v Speaker 3>do you enjoy about it? You know?

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<v Speaker 6>One thing I do need to combat this year is

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<v Speaker 6>this myth? And everyone I asked this question, Oh, we

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<v Speaker 6>have four seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>No we don't. No, we don't.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't have spring. It goes straight from winter to summer.

0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:24.000
<v Speaker 6>There's no spring. Spring's a myth. It typically never comes

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<v Speaker 6>and if it does, it'll be maybe two three weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's not the four seasons. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>for most people it's the four seasons. I think for

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<v Speaker 6>all of us, it's the people. Yeah, it's the people,

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<v Speaker 6>and specifically it's family. Michigan is family. And so when

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<v Speaker 6>you have a state like this that has they call

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<v Speaker 6>it a brain drain problem where our college grads leave,

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<v Speaker 6>that's because we're taking in so many h one beast.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't find entry level work. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 5>makes it especially tragic.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, this isn't you know people in Tennessee who

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<v Speaker 6>might want to go to New York and be a

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<v Speaker 6>big star someday. These are people, if they had it

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<v Speaker 6>their way, they would stay with their family and live

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<v Speaker 6>in their neighborhood all their life. And they don't, and

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<v Speaker 6>they're leaving by not their choice. And that's what said,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the tragedy of Michigan, because what happens is so

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<v Speaker 6>many people end up being denied a relationship with their grandkids.

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<v Speaker 6>Now there are people you see once twice a year,

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<v Speaker 6>your kid moves to New York or San Francisco. You

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<v Speaker 6>can't afford to move there, right, Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually heard that a lot in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that a lot when I was there, that

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<v Speaker 4>that was the main concern that people were leaving. I

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<v Speaker 4>was on a very Florida high I had just moved

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<v Speaker 4>to Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not just it's it's been three years now.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like a little over two at that time.

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<v Speaker 5>But I was very It was hotter than fire back.

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<v Speaker 3>It was super hot.

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<v Speaker 4>It was super super I mean it still is in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of ways, but we saw lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>moving in all the time. But yes, it was completely

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<v Speaker 4>on fire then. And I was very big on if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't like where you live.

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<v Speaker 3>Change your you know, change you know, I do something.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to move. I can suge that my families

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<v Speaker 4>are all still in New York. But in Michigan. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I heard from people that said, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to leave. It's not like you.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like I got tired of of of where

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<v Speaker 4>I live and I want to I want to change.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually want to stay, but I can't. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>real difference. That's not the same thing as what I did.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very tough to combat any ideas well.

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<v Speaker 6>In the tragedy of it, Carol, is that we lose

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<v Speaker 6>two groups who are really valuable. You lose your recent

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<v Speaker 6>college grads who could be your future and they carry

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<v Speaker 6>your family's legacy with them, and then we lose retireeves

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<v Speaker 6>who stacked up cash and might have something to pass down,

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<v Speaker 6>some wealth. And so the retirees, some of those people

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<v Speaker 6>always want to move to a warmer place or split

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<v Speaker 6>time or whatever, but to lose the future. So what

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<v Speaker 6>I think we need Michigan needs to build a wall,

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<v Speaker 6>not to keep anyone out.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep Mulley, to keep our kids in. Yeah, we need

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<v Speaker 5>to have some kind of problem.

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<v Speaker 6>A company like Ford should be part of the solution,

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<v Speaker 6>one of the most iconic companies on the planet. Kids

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<v Speaker 6>who grew up here do dream and should dream about

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<v Speaker 6>working at Ford someday, and every effort should be made that, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you go get that engineering degree, you go do whatever

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<v Speaker 6>you need to do to add value, and we have

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<v Speaker 6>a spot for you. So we need a nativism. When

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<v Speaker 6>when I hear a street that at our a congressman

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<v Speaker 6>here in Detroit, or if Ivey Kramaswami talk about h

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<v Speaker 6>one B's, what I hear is Indians viewing the world

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<v Speaker 6>as Indians and being extremely comfortable with nativism. In that context,

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<v Speaker 6>they have no problem saying I want to do for

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<v Speaker 6>me and mind right. So nativism does not bother shre

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<v Speaker 6>does your conscience bother you?

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<v Speaker 5>I know the reference, So I love that reference. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what we we have to get.

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<v Speaker 6>Comfortable, very comfortable choosing our own people, our own country,

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<v Speaker 6>even the citizens of the States. We live over this idea,

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<v Speaker 6>this kind of that there's special knowledge that could only

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<v Speaker 6>be conferred by foreigners, or there's moral authority that could

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<v Speaker 6>only be conferred by diversity. What if we thought of

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<v Speaker 6>ourselves as image bearers of God?

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<v Speaker 5>And enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what do you worry about?

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<v Speaker 5>I worry about the twenty twenty sixth election in Michigan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I liken.

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<v Speaker 6>You know this inauguration week, you know, watching everything, it's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like when your friend gets the toy they like,

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<v Speaker 6>or or they get, you know, the new video game unit,

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<v Speaker 6>and they got all like five new games for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 6>They call you over afternoon and you're sitting there hot chocolate, cookies,

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 6>games warm. It's great, but then you got to go

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:11.639
<v Speaker 6>home eventually and you don't have that game. And so

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 6>we watched everyone celebrate America and it's great. It's great,

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<v Speaker 6>and we hope some of it trickles down to Michigan,

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<v Speaker 6>no doubt some of it will, but then you go

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<v Speaker 6>home and you don't have the game. And so what

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to get everyone excited about is Project twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seven. Imagine this week two years from now, except

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<v Speaker 6>we've saved our state from a world where in twenty

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<v Speaker 6>forty we're going to be running on solar panels and windmills.

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<v Speaker 6>Project twenty twenty seven bad news, guys, you won't be

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<v Speaker 6>able to vote for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Only for your kids, only for your future. I hope

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<v Speaker 5>that's enough.

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<v Speaker 6>And so that's what we're going to be trying to do,

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<v Speaker 6>is make sure it is enough and make sure people

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<v Speaker 6>understand the stakes. We won, but we didn't win enough

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<v Speaker 6>to just to rest on Laurels, right, So I hope

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<v Speaker 6>everyone had fun, but there's a future to win.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a quick break and be right

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<v Speaker 1>back on the Carol Marcowitch Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have a particular candidate that you want to

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<v Speaker 4>see in twenty seven?

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<v Speaker 6>No, So twenty twenty six, it's the ultimate Battle of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 6>Free seat in the House. So we got one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and ten House seats, thirty eight Senate seats, Governor, Lieutenant

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<v Speaker 6>Attorney General, Secretary of State, also the Gary Peters Senate seat.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of big jobs, a lot of opportunities.

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<v Speaker 6>When I look across at the Democrats, I see Jocelyn Benson,

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<v Speaker 6>who is like, she's like if a Barbie doll was

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<v Speaker 6>made out of wood instead of plastic, kind of a

0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 6>wooden Barbie doll. Dana Nessel, who is just so singularly unlikable.

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<v Speaker 6>All I have to do is say her name. You're like, oh, yeah,

0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 6>that Dana Nessl's gonna have sometime. Then you have Pete

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<v Speaker 6>boodage Edge, who's a midget who doesn't even know when

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<v Speaker 6>the Lions play right.

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<v Speaker 5>That's an unexceptionable also a Notre Dame fan.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's not going to do you any favors, Pete.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you have Mike Duggan, who is such a

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<v Speaker 6>coward that, after being a Democrat all of his life,

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 6>the mayor of Detroit says, I'm not a Democrat anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, Mike.

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<v Speaker 6>I must have missed all the times when before the

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<v Speaker 6>Titanic hit the Iceberg, you were telling them Iceberg right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I must have missed all that, right, must have missed

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<v Speaker 6>your leadership in that moment. And so he waits until

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<v Speaker 6>the ship crashes to abandon, never led and didn't say

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't do what Donald Trump did, which is saying

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<v Speaker 6>the Republican Party sucks, I'm gonna take it over.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what a leader would do.

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<v Speaker 6>But a guy who's in it for himself says, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>those people make me look bad, so I'll go my

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<v Speaker 6>own way.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 6>So I look over at the left and I see clowns.

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<v Speaker 5>You see opportunity.

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<v Speaker 6>We got a guy, Eric Nesbittt he's the Senate Minority leader. Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Kind of this, this big strapping guy. Uh, it's not unusual.

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<v Speaker 6>John Engler was a senator in Michigan. Gretchen Whitmer was

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<v Speaker 6>a senator in Michigan. So it's not an unusual path.

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<v Speaker 6>And so where Jocelyn Benson might have name recognition right now,

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<v Speaker 6>Eric nessbitt has the advantage of if people don't know

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<v Speaker 6>who you are, then what they know about you is

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<v Speaker 6>what you tell them.

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<v Speaker 3>You can define yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can define yourself and you can be known

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 6>for the first time. And so he has that same

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 6>opportunity that Gretchen Whitmer had, which is to define himself.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you have Mike Cox, he formed an exploratory committee.

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<v Speaker 6>This guy used to be Attorney General of Michigan. He's

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 6>held state wide office in Michigan. He needs to get

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<v Speaker 6>serious about social media. His social media president reads like

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<v Speaker 6>his grandkids told him about it but didn't show him

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 6>how to use it, right, So he's just kind of

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 6>winging it based on what he's seen and heard about it. Uh,

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna need to get serious about that, because Eric

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 6>Nestlitt is serious as a heart attack. So even if

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<v Speaker 6>it was just those two versus those four Democrats, I'd

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 6>like that race.

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<v Speaker 3>You like your chances?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, we're gonna wait and see, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna keep us posted because I feel like you, you know,

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 4>you're you're really representing local Michigan and telling us what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on over there.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, we're gonna get you in one of these shirts, Carol.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna get you making news local again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So what advice would you give yourself at sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>years old?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you always plan to be here?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 6>But there was always signs, you know, from the earliest pictures.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom and her mom used to argue all the

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<v Speaker 6>time because I always had a pen in my hand

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<v Speaker 6>as a baby, and so I'd be running around. He's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna he's gonna poke his eye out. Now, if I

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<v Speaker 6>write some story and the cartel gets pissed and they

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<v Speaker 6>pluck my eye out, I guess Grandma will have been

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<v Speaker 6>right in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Right they don't want, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>So there was always a sign that I was gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be speaking out or something. My mom wanted to name

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<v Speaker 6>me David because she had a dream where she saw

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<v Speaker 6>me giving a speech and my name was David.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why I used the David. To this day.

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<v Speaker 6>Mom's not with us anymore, and it's a damn shame too,

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<v Speaker 6>because she saw just it was like Moses. It was,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean literally the forty year journey to get here

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<v Speaker 6>and gets right to the promised land where you see

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<v Speaker 6>evidence of it. You can see the olive trees. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>even with old eyes, you don't make it.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm carrying on her name and all that.

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<v Speaker 6>But my advice to that young person, I would say,

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<v Speaker 6>be nicer, Be a little bit nicer along the way.

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<v Speaker 5>My whole thing is built around telling the truth. You

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<v Speaker 5>seem pretty nice, and that can come off, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if people follow me on Twitter, who don't

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<v Speaker 6>know me personally, they might imagine that I'm more confrontational

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<v Speaker 6>than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who among us.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, right, But I think if you were.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's also because I'm talking about stuff that pisses

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<v Speaker 6>me off, and oftentimes I'm talking to people who piss

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<v Speaker 6>me off. So if I'm sitting here with a friend,

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<v Speaker 6>if I'm strategizing with the fellow traveler, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sure I could be charming and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 6>the other thing is I consider who you're spending your

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<v Speaker 6>time with. You know, when you It's the same advice

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<v Speaker 6>I gave my stepkid, which is any career field, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a type of person who gets in that career field.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that the type of person you want to be with.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I went through this like misanthroat phase

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<v Speaker 6>where journalism was not a great fit, and then I

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<v Speaker 6>was a breaking news reporter in Detroit at that exact

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<v Speaker 6>same moment. So I've had to come through a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of that, fought through anxiety, seasonal depression, all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 6>And so my advice is put one foot in front

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<v Speaker 6>of the other, and also God helps those who help themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>There's something you could do right now to improve your situation,

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<v Speaker 6>however bad it is, in fact the worst it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably anything you would do would be an improvement over

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<v Speaker 6>what you have. Yeah, so what can you do? Everyone

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<v Speaker 6>in this world has reasons why not? What can you

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<v Speaker 6>do today, here and now? Any plan you're serious about

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<v Speaker 6>does not start with the word tomorrow. So you can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you can tilt the playing field in your favor. And

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<v Speaker 6>as a man, it's your job to do it. The

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<v Speaker 6>second woman is born, she has everything she will need

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<v Speaker 6>to be a success in you think. So, men are made,

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<v Speaker 6>not born, And so the good news is if you

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<v Speaker 6>ask God to order your steps, then you have help

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<v Speaker 6>on that path going it alone. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 6>look at where the Israelite started and where they ended up,

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<v Speaker 6>that wasn't a forty year walk. It becomes forty years

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<v Speaker 6>when you're hard headed, when you're stiff necked, And so

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<v Speaker 6>ask for help, ask God for help, ask friends for help.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you're going to be a journalist, you better

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<v Speaker 6>get real comfortable asking for help. I'm now addicted to

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<v Speaker 6>asking for help. I seek out reasons, I seek out problems.

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<v Speaker 6>So I have to seek out a source who can

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<v Speaker 6>help me.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that, so.

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<v Speaker 4>And here with your best tip for my listeners on

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<v Speaker 4>how they can improve their lives, and maybe you've already

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<v Speaker 4>given it to us.

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<v Speaker 6>The best thing you could do to improve your life

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<v Speaker 6>is get in the gym regularly, work out, regularly, bring

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<v Speaker 6>your body to a sweat. God gives you one and

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<v Speaker 6>only one body, so everything else you're going to run

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<v Speaker 6>through cars. You're going to live in several homes in

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<v Speaker 6>your life. You may even there's people who get married

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<v Speaker 6>multiple times in life, but you're given one body. That's

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<v Speaker 6>the first gift you were given. Your spouse was the

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<v Speaker 6>second gift you were given. What are you doing for

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<v Speaker 6>that body and for that spouse? So preserve your ability

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<v Speaker 6>to be there for that person. Preserve your ability to

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<v Speaker 6>be there with that person.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is James David Dixon, host of the Enjoyer

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<v Speaker 4>podcast check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, James.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Carol, thanks so much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 2>the Carol Marko which show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.