1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: When I started this show about a year plus ago, 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: I would talk a lot about the importance of marriage. 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I really wanted that to be one of the topics 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: that I delved into on this program, and it mattered 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: to me that marriage rates were in such steep decline. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: It was something that I was very concerned about. I'm 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: still very concerned about. I think marriage is important for 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: society and very beneficial to individuals. You've likely heard all 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: of the arguments here. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Or maybe elsewhere. I've made them extensively. That married people 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: are happier, they're wealthier, they're more stable, all of the 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: good things, healthier, they have more sex. What's not to like. 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: But as I talked about marriage, I kept looking at 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: the data, and what I started to see is not 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: that people were coupling and just not getting married. It's 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: that they weren't coupling at all either. That was in 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: sharp decline as well. There are a lot of explanations 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: for why this is happening. Women are overachieving but want 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: men who are a higher status than they are, a 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: pool that is continually shrinking. And I'm not blaming just 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: men here for the decline of relationships. Obviously, there's a 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: lot of data that women all want to date the 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: same few guys. There's a lot of blame to go around. 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: I think it comes down to something even more basic. 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: People aren't even making friends. And that's something I've talked 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: about on the show a lot, because there's been this 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: great migration over the last few years, and it's very 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: hard to start your life again and make friends as 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: you already have reached an age where people just really 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: don't do that. But the thing is, I saw a 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: recent study that broke this down by education level, and 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: that was very interesting to me. The study found owned 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: that twenty four percent of people with an education of 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: high school or below reported that they had no close 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: friends at all. The numbers a little better for someone 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: college educated. Only ten percent of college grads say they 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: have no close friends. But it's important to realize that 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety the number was two percent for college 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: grads and three percent for high school graduates to say 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: that they had no close friends. 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: It was a tiny. 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: Number, so this is a serious, serious jump. Also, in 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety, forty five percent of college grads had at 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: least six close friends, which makes sense, right Like when 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: I think about college for my kids, I mostly think 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: of it as a social exercise at this point. Who 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: they'll meet along the way, what kind of people, and 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: who they'll stay friends with. I want that for them. 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Do kids learn in college or anymore? Who knows. I 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: don't even think about that, but hopefully they come out 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: of school with a few close friends. That number has 53 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: fallen from forty five percent in nineteen ninety. Again that 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: college grads who had at least six close friends to 55 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: thirty three percent now, and again it's a much worse 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: decline for high school grads. In nineteen ninety, forty nine 57 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: percent of high school graduates had at least six close friends. 58 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Now that number is seventeen percent. We should be worried 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: about fertility rates, marriage rates, but the fact is that 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: all relationships are in collapse, and that should really be 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: our first concern. I've had a couple of emails from 62 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: listeners asking how to help their kids make friends. Something 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: has happened, something has broken where it's not just something 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: natural that happens, it's something difficult that people find that 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: they need a way to get over it, and they 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: need to seek out advice for how it works and 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: how it happens. My own take is that it's, of 68 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: course the fault. We don't have to make friends. We 69 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: carry around a world of entertainment everywhere we go. I 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: don't know how we break that, but we're heading into 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: a very bad direction. A few years ago I wrote 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: for Spectator magazine an article called the End of Sex. 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: I wrote, quote, men don't really know who they're supposed 74 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: to be anymore, and women don't either. Is it anti 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: feminists to enjoy male attention? Is it okay to ask 76 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: out a colleague? Everything is so fraud and challenging that 77 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: it's no wonder people are opting out of sex. Who 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: needs the hassle. They'll get their dopamine hits from the 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: likes they get on their posts and all the internet 80 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: porn they can handle. Why bother with human interaction? When 81 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: life is un sexy, you get on sexy sex or 82 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: no sex at all. End quote. The truth is that 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: friendship making is very similar. People are getting the happiness 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: from their phone, so who needs that awkward small talk 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: of the initial stages of friendship. It's a problem. I'm 86 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: just not sure that anyone will listen to the solution 87 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: if it means giving up their phone. I'd love to 88 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: hear thoughts on this from listeners. How do you help 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: your kids make friends? How do you make friends yourself? 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: Drop me a line, Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com. 91 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: It's Ka R O L M A R. Kowicz Show 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. Thank you for listening. Coming up 93 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: my interview with James David Dixon. But first, after more 94 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: than a year of war, terror and pain in Israel, 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: there is still a great demand for basic humanitarian aid. 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has supported and 97 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: continues to support those in the Holy Land still facing 98 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: the lingering horrors of war, and those who are in 99 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: desperate need right now. 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Or call eight eight 109 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: eight four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four 110 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: eight eight IFCJ eight eight eight four eight eight four 111 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 2: three two five. 112 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My 113 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: guest today is James David Dixon, host of the Enjoyer Podcast. 114 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: Hi James, so nice to have you on. 115 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: How are you, Carol? 116 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: Good? So what is the Enjoyer podcast? What do you 117 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: particularly enjoy? 118 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: What I enjoy, Carol, is to like when I have 119 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 6: people on, the first question I always ask is what 120 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 6: do you enjoy about Michigan? And so you could be, 121 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 6: you know, someone in Washington State who's never been here. 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 6: Perhaps they admire the Michigan football team, you know what 123 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: I mean? So whatever it is, perhaps they admire me. 124 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 6: Whatever it is. We start, we start from that basis, 125 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: uh And and then that's that's kind of the sugar, 126 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 6: because the pill I give is that reality. So so 127 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: we enjoy Michigan and we appreciate Michigan. But we also 128 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 6: realized that there's some pretty serious threats and that's what 129 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 6: I spend the bulk of my time talking about, is 130 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 6: the threats and what we should do about. 131 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: Well. 132 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: I quite love Michigan. 133 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: I spent some time at Hillsdale, so I really love 134 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: that whole area. I've also given a speech I should 135 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: have had that I should have had that that town 136 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: name cued, but it. 137 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: Was a little north of Flint. 138 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: Okay. 139 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: I really really liked it. 140 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: Such a gay city, Midlands. 141 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: This isn't gonna work. 142 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: I gave a thousand speeches last year. 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: But I really like your state. 144 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: I like the whole palm thing. I like that you 145 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: guys show, you know, on the palm where you are. 146 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm like right down here, you know, under 147 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: the thumb. 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: Okay, people listening on audio. He pointed to the fleshy 149 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: area below the thumb. 150 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 6: Not quite on the water, but yeah, east easterly in Michigan, 151 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: Southeast Michigan. 152 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: So are you a Michigander your whole life? And did 153 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: I nail them? 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 5: Am? You did? You did? So? 155 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because we have Michigander, which I 156 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 6: started off I believe as a slur Abraham Lincoln and 157 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 6: then a letter h. And then we also have Michiganian, 158 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 6: and anyone who uses Michiganian, you know you're dealing with 159 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 6: the Detroit News reader. Because these papers do things to, 160 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 6: you know, to to separate each other. We have two 161 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 6: papers in Detroit, the News, which is allegedly conservative, and 162 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 6: then the Free Press, which is liberal, flamingly so right, 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 6: and so the politics separate them, but also little things 164 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 6: like michigany and versus Michigander. And so when the News 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 6: gives their annual award, they give it to like a 166 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 6: dozen people a year, it's Michiganian of the Year. 167 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 168 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's so interesting because I you know, Michigan 169 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: is a swing state. 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: It's a it's kind of you know, a little bit 171 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: of both. 172 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: It wasn't always a swing state, obviously. I remember it 173 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: being solidly blue and never you know, going. 174 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: Red really or rarely. 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: But it's become quite the swing state in the last 176 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: few years. And it's so funny that it's so divided 177 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: even among like what to call themselves. 178 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's just is that is that. 179 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 3: Is that like the flavor of the state. 180 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 5: There's a lot of Yeah. 181 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 6: I mean, whether it's you know, blue and red for 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 6: political for politics, whether it's blue and green for Michigan 183 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: versus Michigan State. We we love these little these little 184 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 6: things that you know, the city suburb divide, the suburban 185 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 6: versus is you know, out state divide. 186 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 5: We call them out state. 187 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 6: If you don't live in kind of the main like 188 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 6: three to seven counties of southeast Michigan, you live out state. 189 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 6: People from Michigan might be learning that today. Yes, they 190 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 6: don't know what conversations happened about them when they're not 191 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 6: in the room. They're learning something today. So right, But yeah, 192 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 6: one of my goals in twenty twenty five is I'm 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 6: a Southeast Michigan guy. I love Oakland County, I love Detroit, 194 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 6: I love Ann Arbor, but I want to venture to 195 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 6: other parts of Michigan too, well outside my box. 196 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: So we'll see how that goes. 197 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I again, I really enjoyed the whole area 198 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: around Hillsdale. I thought it was really beautiful and calm 199 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: and peaceful, arm and the food was really good, So 200 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: you know, I recommend it highly. So how did you 201 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,119 Speaker 4: get into being a local podcaster? 202 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: What was the draw to you. 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: I mean, so many people love talking about national stuff 204 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: and it's it's tough to kind of focus on, you 205 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: know something. I don't want to say smaller because it's 206 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: not really smaller, just more precise or. 207 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: You know, we're concentrated, more concentrated. 208 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for the word sist. 209 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think so. 210 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 6: Before I did the Enjoyer, I was with the Macinaw 211 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 6: Center and we had a small news outlet called Michigan 212 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 6: Capitol Confidential. 213 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: They still have it. 214 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 6: They got rid of me because I wanted to do this, 215 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 6: and then they saw I had other aspirations, and just 216 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 6: as a quick aside, I think it's a great example 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 6: of how God can take you places that you wouldn't 218 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 6: even think to ask. Right, So, if I had what 219 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 6: I wanted, I'd be doing the Enjoyer podcast, and I'd 220 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 6: still be at the Macinaw Center and we'd be making 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 6: it work and going up to Midland every other Monday 222 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 6: and all that juggling the two jobs. But instead of that, 223 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 6: God said, no, we're going to get you out of there, 224 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 6: even if it was painful at the time and inconvenient 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 6: and all those things. And then what happened A short 226 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 6: time later, I end up the second the severance ends. 227 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: I start with the New York Post on their Swing 228 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: state team. So I go from working for an obscure 229 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: policy newsletter in Michigan to one of the biggest news 230 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 6: outlets in the world covering the twenty twenty four election. 231 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 6: Only God, I would have never thought to ask for 232 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: that myself. I'm not a greedy guy. I don't ask 233 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 6: for much, and so he just delivered so much more 234 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 6: than I could have ever wanted. But what I learned 235 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 6: at the Mackinaw Center is that limitation breeds creativity. We 236 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: could only talk about certain topics, and we had to 237 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 6: cover it as policy and not politics. So you're denied 238 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: a lot of the red meat and the lures that 239 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 6: we would normally use, and so you have to And 240 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 6: so I developed that. I realized, if I'm going to 241 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 6: get people reading about boring ass policy, I need to 242 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 6: give them something first, and so I look for the 243 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 6: angle of absurdity in stories like, for instance, Ford Motor 244 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: Company took one hundred million dollars from state lawmakers in 245 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 6: let's say June twenty twenty two August, So they're going 246 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 6: to use one hundred million to hire three thousand factory 247 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 6: workers in August. Two months later, they fire three thousand 248 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 6: white collar workers. They pulled the Oki dock of all time. Yeah, 249 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 6: that's one hundred million dollar Oaki dough. And so when 250 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 6: you connect those dots and show that angle of absurdity, 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 6: and what you want to look for is the fact 252 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 6: that is so absurd it can't possibly be real except. 253 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 5: It is right. And then you draw that, then you can. 254 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: Tell them about your boring at you know, policy, But 255 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 6: first you have to give them what they want. 256 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: So was that Ford's story did it go Did it 257 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: end up going national because that seems like a big story. 258 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 5: No, because of the nature of it. But it did 259 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: what it needed to do in Michigan. 260 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 6: And then at the Enjoyer, I ended up just doing 261 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 6: a nice video calling out for and saying, Hey, this 262 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: company is not as good a citizen as you might think. 263 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 6: It's the most important company in Michigan. It's the reason 264 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 6: there are Dixons in Michigan and there are black people 265 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 6: in Michigan. But when you look at how they use 266 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 6: HB one, when you look at the one hundred million 267 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 6: dollar Oki dook, when you look at partnering with the 268 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 6: Chinese military company to build EV batteries. Harry Ford would 269 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: be disgraced by what he sees right now, and we 270 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: need better from a company that important. So it's not 271 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 6: super popular stuff. I don't think I'm gonna be invited 272 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 6: to get there. 273 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: Huh, No, there's not. I've not been asked. I might 274 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: have missed it. 275 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 6: I don't check my mail every single day, but I 276 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 6: might have missed it. But I don't think I'm going 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 6: to be invited to give the keynote addressed at Ford's 278 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 6: you know, a company banquet anytime soon. But what would 279 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 6: you rather do? Speak for your neighbors or speak to 280 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 6: a small group of elites? 281 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: So what do you love about Michigan the most? What 282 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: do you enjoy about it? You know? 283 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 6: One thing I do need to combat this year is 284 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 6: this myth? And everyone I asked this question, Oh, we 285 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 6: have four seasons. 286 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 5: No we don't. No, we don't. 287 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 6: We don't have spring. It goes straight from winter to summer. 288 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 6: There's no spring. Spring's a myth. It typically never comes 289 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 6: and if it does, it'll be maybe two three weeks. 290 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: So it's not the four seasons. And I don't think 291 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 6: for most people it's the four seasons. I think for 292 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: all of us, it's the people. Yeah, it's the people, 293 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 6: and specifically it's family. Michigan is family. And so when 294 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 6: you have a state like this that has they call 295 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 6: it a brain drain problem where our college grads leave, 296 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: that's because we're taking in so many h one beast. 297 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 5: You can't find entry level work. And so that's what 298 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: makes it especially tragic. 299 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 6: You know, this isn't you know people in Tennessee who 300 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 6: might want to go to New York and be a 301 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 6: big star someday. These are people, if they had it 302 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 6: their way, they would stay with their family and live 303 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 6: in their neighborhood all their life. And they don't, and 304 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 6: they're leaving by not their choice. And that's what said, 305 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 6: that's the tragedy of Michigan, because what happens is so 306 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 6: many people end up being denied a relationship with their grandkids. 307 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 6: Now there are people you see once twice a year, 308 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 6: your kid moves to New York or San Francisco. You 309 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 6: can't afford to move there, right, Yeah, you know. 310 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: I actually heard that a lot in Michigan. 311 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: I heard that a lot when I was there, that 312 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: that was the main concern that people were leaving. I 313 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: was on a very Florida high I had just moved 314 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: to Florida. 315 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: I mean not just it's it's been three years now. 316 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: It was like a little over two at that time. 317 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 5: But I was very It was hotter than fire back. 318 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: It was super hot. 319 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: It was super super I mean it still is in 320 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: a lot of ways, but we saw lot of people 321 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: moving in all the time. But yes, it was completely 322 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: on fire then. And I was very big on if 323 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: you don't like where you live. 324 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: Change your you know, change you know, I do something. 325 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 4: It's hard to move. I can suge that my families 326 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: are all still in New York. But in Michigan. You know, 327 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: I heard from people that said, I don't. 328 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 3: Want to leave. It's not like you. 329 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: It wasn't like I got tired of of of where 330 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: I live and I want to I want to change. 331 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: I actually want to stay, but I can't. And that's 332 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: real difference. That's not the same thing as what I did. 333 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: It's very tough to combat any ideas well. 334 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: In the tragedy of it, Carol, is that we lose 335 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 6: two groups who are really valuable. You lose your recent 336 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: college grads who could be your future and they carry 337 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: your family's legacy with them, and then we lose retireeves 338 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 6: who stacked up cash and might have something to pass down, 339 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 6: some wealth. And so the retirees, some of those people 340 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 6: always want to move to a warmer place or split 341 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 6: time or whatever, but to lose the future. So what 342 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 6: I think we need Michigan needs to build a wall, 343 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 6: not to keep anyone out. 344 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 5: Keep Mulley, to keep our kids in. Yeah, we need 345 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: to have some kind of problem. 346 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 6: A company like Ford should be part of the solution, 347 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 6: one of the most iconic companies on the planet. Kids 348 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 6: who grew up here do dream and should dream about 349 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 6: working at Ford someday, and every effort should be made that, hey, 350 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 6: you go get that engineering degree, you go do whatever 351 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 6: you need to do to add value, and we have 352 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 6: a spot for you. So we need a nativism. When 353 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: when I hear a street that at our a congressman 354 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 6: here in Detroit, or if Ivey Kramaswami talk about h 355 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 6: one B's, what I hear is Indians viewing the world 356 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 6: as Indians and being extremely comfortable with nativism. In that context, 357 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 6: they have no problem saying I want to do for 358 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 6: me and mind right. So nativism does not bother shre 359 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 6: does your conscience bother you? 360 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 5: I know the reference, So I love that reference. And 361 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: that's what we we have to get. 362 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: Comfortable, very comfortable choosing our own people, our own country, 363 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 6: even the citizens of the States. We live over this idea, 364 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 6: this kind of that there's special knowledge that could only 365 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 6: be conferred by foreigners, or there's moral authority that could 366 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 6: only be conferred by diversity. What if we thought of 367 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 6: ourselves as image bearers of God? 368 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: And enough? 369 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you worry about? 370 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: I worry about the twenty twenty sixth election in Michigan. Okay, 371 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: I liken. 372 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: You know this inauguration week, you know, watching everything, it's 373 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: kind of like when your friend gets the toy they like, 374 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: or or they get, you know, the new video game unit, 375 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 6: and they got all like five new games for Christmas. 376 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 6: They call you over afternoon and you're sitting there hot chocolate, cookies, 377 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: games warm. It's great, but then you got to go 378 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 6: home eventually and you don't have that game. And so 379 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 6: we watched everyone celebrate America and it's great. It's great, 380 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 6: and we hope some of it trickles down to Michigan, 381 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 6: no doubt some of it will, but then you go 382 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 6: home and you don't have the game. And so what 383 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get everyone excited about is Project twenty 384 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 6: twenty seven. Imagine this week two years from now, except 385 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 6: we've saved our state from a world where in twenty 386 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 6: forty we're going to be running on solar panels and windmills. 387 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 6: Project twenty twenty seven bad news, guys, you won't be 388 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 6: able to vote for Donald Trump. 389 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 5: Only for your kids, only for your future. I hope 390 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: that's enough. 391 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 6: And so that's what we're going to be trying to do, 392 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 6: is make sure it is enough and make sure people 393 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 6: understand the stakes. We won, but we didn't win enough 394 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 6: to just to rest on Laurels, right, So I hope 395 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 6: everyone had fun, but there's a future to win. 396 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and be right 397 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. 398 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: Do you have a particular candidate that you want to 399 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: see in twenty seven? 400 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 6: No, So twenty twenty six, it's the ultimate Battle of Michigan. 401 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 6: Free seat in the House. So we got one hundred 402 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 6: and ten House seats, thirty eight Senate seats, Governor, Lieutenant 403 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 6: Attorney General, Secretary of State, also the Gary Peters Senate seat. 404 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 5: A lot of big jobs, a lot of opportunities. 405 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 6: When I look across at the Democrats, I see Jocelyn Benson, 406 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: who is like, she's like if a Barbie doll was 407 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 6: made out of wood instead of plastic, kind of a 408 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 6: wooden Barbie doll. Dana Nessel, who is just so singularly unlikable. 409 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 6: All I have to do is say her name. You're like, oh, yeah, 410 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 6: that Dana Nessl's gonna have sometime. Then you have Pete 411 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 6: boodage Edge, who's a midget who doesn't even know when 412 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 6: the Lions play right. 413 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 5: That's an unexceptionable also a Notre Dame fan. 414 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 6: So that's not going to do you any favors, Pete. 415 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 6: And then you have Mike Duggan, who is such a 416 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 6: coward that, after being a Democrat all of his life, 417 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 6: the mayor of Detroit says, I'm not a Democrat anymore. 418 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 5: Sorry, Mike. 419 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 6: I must have missed all the times when before the 420 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 6: Titanic hit the Iceberg, you were telling them Iceberg right ahead. 421 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: I must have missed all that, right, must have missed 422 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 6: your leadership in that moment. And so he waits until 423 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 6: the ship crashes to abandon, never led and didn't say 424 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 6: he didn't do what Donald Trump did, which is saying 425 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: the Republican Party sucks, I'm gonna take it over. 426 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 5: That's what a leader would do. 427 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 6: But a guy who's in it for himself says, oh, 428 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 6: those people make me look bad, so I'll go my 429 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 6: own way. 430 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: It's not going to work. 431 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 6: So I look over at the left and I see clowns. 432 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: You see opportunity. 433 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 6: We got a guy, Eric Nesbittt he's the Senate Minority leader. Uh. 434 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 6: Kind of this, this big strapping guy. Uh, it's not unusual. 435 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 6: John Engler was a senator in Michigan. Gretchen Whitmer was 436 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 6: a senator in Michigan. So it's not an unusual path. 437 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 6: And so where Jocelyn Benson might have name recognition right now, 438 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 6: Eric nessbitt has the advantage of if people don't know 439 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 6: who you are, then what they know about you is 440 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 6: what you tell them. 441 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: You can define yourself. 442 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can define yourself and you can be known 443 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: for the first time. And so he has that same 444 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: opportunity that Gretchen Whitmer had, which is to define himself. 445 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 446 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: Then you have Mike Cox, he formed an exploratory committee. 447 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 6: This guy used to be Attorney General of Michigan. He's 448 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 6: held state wide office in Michigan. He needs to get 449 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 6: serious about social media. His social media president reads like 450 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 6: his grandkids told him about it but didn't show him 451 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: how to use it, right, So he's just kind of 452 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 6: winging it based on what he's seen and heard about it. Uh, 453 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 6: he's gonna need to get serious about that, because Eric 454 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 6: Nestlitt is serious as a heart attack. So even if 455 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: it was just those two versus those four Democrats, I'd 456 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 6: like that race. 457 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: You like your chances? 458 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we're gonna wait and see, and you're 459 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 4: gonna keep us posted because I feel like you, you know, 460 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: you're you're really representing local Michigan and telling us what's 461 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 4: going on over there. 462 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 6: Absolutely, we're gonna get you in one of these shirts, Carol. 463 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 6: We're gonna get you making news local again. 464 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 4: Yes, So what advice would you give yourself at sixteen 465 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: years old? 466 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 3: Did you always plan to be here? 467 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: No? 468 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: But there was always signs, you know, from the earliest pictures. 469 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 6: My mom and her mom used to argue all the 470 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 6: time because I always had a pen in my hand 471 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 6: as a baby, and so I'd be running around. He's 472 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 6: gonna he's gonna poke his eye out. Now, if I 473 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 6: write some story and the cartel gets pissed and they 474 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 6: pluck my eye out, I guess Grandma will have been 475 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 6: right in the end. 476 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: Right they don't want, you know. 477 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 6: So there was always a sign that I was gonna 478 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 6: be speaking out or something. My mom wanted to name 479 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 6: me David because she had a dream where she saw 480 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 6: me giving a speech and my name was David. 481 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: So that's why I used the David. To this day. 482 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 6: Mom's not with us anymore, and it's a damn shame too, 483 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 6: because she saw just it was like Moses. It was, 484 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 6: I mean literally the forty year journey to get here 485 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 6: and gets right to the promised land where you see 486 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 6: evidence of it. You can see the olive trees. Man, 487 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 6: even with old eyes, you don't make it. 488 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: So I'm carrying on her name and all that. 489 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 6: But my advice to that young person, I would say, 490 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 6: be nicer, Be a little bit nicer along the way. 491 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: My whole thing is built around telling the truth. You 492 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 5: seem pretty nice, and that can come off, you know 493 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 5: what I mean. 494 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 6: I think if people follow me on Twitter, who don't 495 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 6: know me personally, they might imagine that I'm more confrontational 496 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: than I am. 497 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: That's who among us. 498 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 5: Right, right, But I think if you were. 499 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: But that's also because I'm talking about stuff that pisses 500 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 6: me off, and oftentimes I'm talking to people who piss 501 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 6: me off. So if I'm sitting here with a friend, 502 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 6: if I'm strategizing with the fellow traveler, you know, I'm 503 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 6: sure I could be charming and things like that. So 504 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 6: the other thing is I consider who you're spending your 505 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: time with. You know, when you It's the same advice 506 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 6: I gave my stepkid, which is any career field, there's 507 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: a type of person who gets in that career field. 508 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 6: Is that the type of person you want to be with. 509 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 6: I don't know. I went through this like misanthroat phase 510 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 6: where journalism was not a great fit, and then I 511 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 6: was a breaking news reporter in Detroit at that exact 512 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 6: same moment. So I've had to come through a lot 513 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 6: of that, fought through anxiety, seasonal depression, all kinds of things. 514 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 6: And so my advice is put one foot in front 515 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 6: of the other, and also God helps those who help themselves. 516 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 6: There's something you could do right now to improve your situation, 517 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 6: however bad it is, in fact the worst it is. 518 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 6: Probably anything you would do would be an improvement over 519 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 6: what you have. Yeah, so what can you do? Everyone 520 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 6: in this world has reasons why not? What can you 521 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 6: do today, here and now? Any plan you're serious about 522 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 6: does not start with the word tomorrow. So you can. Yeah, 523 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 6: you can tilt the playing field in your favor. And 524 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 6: as a man, it's your job to do it. The 525 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 6: second woman is born, she has everything she will need 526 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 6: to be a success in you think. So, men are made, 527 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 6: not born, And so the good news is if you 528 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 6: ask God to order your steps, then you have help 529 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 6: on that path going it alone. You know, if you 530 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 6: look at where the Israelite started and where they ended up, 531 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 6: that wasn't a forty year walk. It becomes forty years 532 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 6: when you're hard headed, when you're stiff necked, And so 533 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: ask for help, ask God for help, ask friends for help. 534 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 6: And if you're going to be a journalist, you better 535 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 6: get real comfortable asking for help. I'm now addicted to 536 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 6: asking for help. I seek out reasons, I seek out problems. 537 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 6: So I have to seek out a source who can 538 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: help me. 539 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: I love that, so. 540 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: And here with your best tip for my listeners on 541 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: how they can improve their lives, and maybe you've already 542 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: given it to us. 543 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: The best thing you could do to improve your life 544 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 6: is get in the gym regularly, work out, regularly, bring 545 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 6: your body to a sweat. God gives you one and 546 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 6: only one body, so everything else you're going to run 547 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 6: through cars. You're going to live in several homes in 548 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 6: your life. You may even there's people who get married 549 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 6: multiple times in life, but you're given one body. That's 550 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 6: the first gift you were given. Your spouse was the 551 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 6: second gift you were given. What are you doing for 552 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: that body and for that spouse? So preserve your ability 553 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 6: to be there for that person. Preserve your ability to 554 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 6: be there with that person. 555 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: Love it. Thank you so much. 556 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: His name is James David Dixon, host of the Enjoyer 557 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: podcast check it out. 558 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, James. 559 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Carol, thanks so much for joining us on 560 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: the Carol Marko which show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.