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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, October third. Got a decent Thursday night

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Speaker 2: football game. Bucks at the Falcons will do best bet

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Speaker 2: at the end of the podcast. I tried to warn

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Speaker 2: you guys yesterday on the TA Pod. I don't love

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Speaker 2: this weekend gambling. I am mostly holding back. Not a

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Speaker 2: lot of confident plays. Definitely not a lot of money

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Speaker 2: in play yet for me, but we shall see as

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Speaker 2: it gets a little bit closer to kickoff. Obviously, we're

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Speaker 2: very excited for today's guest. He is a new voice

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Speaker 2: on the podcast. He covers the Raid. As for the

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Speaker 2: Review Journal, Vincent Bonsignor aka Vinnie Vinnie B has kind

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Speaker 2: of an entourage ring to it, doesn't it. I think

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Speaker 2: you guys are gonna like the DeVante Adam chatter whether

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Speaker 2: or not this team quits. They got a big matchup

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Speaker 2: in Denver. What's like the mindset when your best player says,

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Speaker 2: get me a hell out of here. You know what's

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Speaker 2: the mindset in the locker room? And Vinnie tries to

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Speaker 2: take you there. So we'll talk Raiders and DeVante Adams

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Speaker 2: and trade spots. I'm telling you this Niners thing I

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Speaker 2: come up with to Vinnie on the fly. I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 2: Niners seem unhappy with Ayuk. Okay, I know they signed

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Speaker 2: him in the off season, but it was a turbulent offseason.

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Speaker 3: If you can just offload.

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Speaker 2: Him right and get back DeVante Adams on like a rental,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a smart move. Now, obviously there's dead

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Speaker 2: cap money issues with trading Ayuk, but Brandon and Ayuk

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Speaker 2: would fit in seamlessly in LA. They draft a quarterback

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Speaker 2: next year and they've already got the number one receiver. Like,

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Speaker 2: I think it makes sense. But we'll see what Vinnie

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Speaker 2: says here. He has best bets at the end of Straight.

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Speaker 1: Fire, Jason likes to think he knows everything when it

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Speaker 1: comes to sports. I know what sports dance wants, but

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Speaker 1: for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I.

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Speaker 3: Know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a guy who's covering.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I should call it a dumpster fire,

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Speaker 2: but currently the Raiders are a bit of a mess.

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Speaker 2: Shall we say, Vinnie bon signor I'll add the pronunciation.

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Speaker 3: He's all over this.

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams and Tonio Pierce Saga VINNI.

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Speaker 3: Your life kind of picked up this week just a

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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, just a little bit.

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Speaker 5: It feels pretty normal around these parts that something is

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Speaker 5: going to occur at some point in the season when

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Speaker 5: it relates to the Raiders that are gonna have you

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Speaker 5: invited onto podcasts like this across the country, so we're

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Speaker 5: kind of used to it. I wouldn't necessarily call it

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Speaker 5: a dumpster fire, but you know, there's definitely some flames

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Speaker 5: emanating from Henderson Novatter right about now, and I do

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Speaker 5: think the writers believe they're going to be able to

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Speaker 5: put it out. I don't think Devanta Adams is ever

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Speaker 5: going to play another game with the Raiders. But part

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Speaker 5: of putting it out would be moving on from Devantay Adams.

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Speaker 2: So let's back up here a little bit. Adams when

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Speaker 2: he came to the Raiders, he was excited to play

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Speaker 2: with Carr. Obviously they move on from Carr. Then it's Garoppolo.

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Speaker 2: Now it's the Minshoe slash, maybe an O'Connell show. How

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Speaker 2: much has the quarterback issue, you know, worn on Adams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and and it's it's probably the biggest

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Speaker 5: and I wouldn't necessarily say the only reason he came

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Speaker 5: to the Raters with Derek Carr. Obviously it helped their

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Speaker 5: They're good friends. They played together at Fresno State. You know,

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Speaker 5: when that when all that happened with with with Derek Carr,

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Speaker 5: And I think he gave it an honest effort to

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Speaker 5: He loves being a Rater. It's the team that he

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Speaker 5: For a bad guy and all this, and maybe at

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Speaker 5: But I think if you take a step back and

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Speaker 5: He's got less years than more, you know, a few

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Speaker 5: objectives that he wants at this stage of his career,

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Speaker 5: and that's to win football games and playing important football games. Long,

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Speaker 5: long winded answer, I know, but that's kind of where

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Speaker 5: it all is. And again, everyone wants to find the

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Speaker 5: bad guy in all this. Maybe there is a bad guy,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's also understandable from both sides of

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Speaker 3: The Panthers game.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago seemed like maybe a tipping

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is not happy in Vegas, and like a

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Speaker 2: week later they ask Adams and he's like, I've barely

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Speaker 3: I put it on my kids, I'm not unhappy. And

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Speaker 2: Like three games into the season, this Panthers game happens

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Speaker 2: and Pierce calls out some guys. It's still unclear who

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Speaker 2: was making business decisions, but a video of Adams kind

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Speaker 2: would you say that game was the tipping point?

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Speaker 5: I don't think he ever said I'm not unhappy. I

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Speaker 5: think what he said was, I haven't talked to Devanta

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Speaker 5: never talked about feelings with him. The only person that

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Speaker 5: my wife, and she's not leaking anything, so and I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying that to correct.

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Speaker 4: You or anything like that, but no, no, that's a good call.

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Speaker 4: I think it is. There is a distinction that needs

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Speaker 5: He stopped short of of telling us where his head

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Speaker 5: that doesn't say that he was. That doesn't address whether

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Speaker 5: I feel comfortable in my reporting that he was monitoring

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Speaker 5: But to your to your question about the tipping point,

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Speaker 4: I think I think how that game went down and

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: The Raiders are are, you know, a legacy franchise that

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Speaker 5: But eventually there's a there's an expiration date on how

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Speaker 5: I can't roll out with the business decisions. Comment by

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Speaker 5: by Antonio Piers that how that quite landed with DeVante.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it rubbed him in the wrong way. Maybe he

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would image enough the Carolina path.

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Speaker 5: Their game played some role and all of this, you know,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's spin this forward. I don't know. Adams

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Speaker 2: Like you said, he's kind of on what the NBA

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Speaker 2: dozen teams would be interested. Let's just start with the

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Speaker 2: obvious one, the Kansas City Chiefs. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they've got the best offer. Isn't

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Speaker 2: it in the Raiders' best interest to simply, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: get the most you can? Now, maybe you want to

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Speaker 2: hold off on that deal so Adams doesn't tort you

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Speaker 2: in the division twice this year? But where are you

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Speaker 2: on the Chiefs and Raiders making a deal happen? Have

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Speaker 2: they historically done trades?

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Speaker 5: I would imagine trying to, at least in the time

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Speaker 5: look back to see if they I think there has been,

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Speaker 5: you know, but we probably have to go way back

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Speaker 5: to along those lines. But you know, you're right if

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Speaker 5: not even close, Like you know, if they've blown everyone

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Speaker 5: And that works to the raiders favor, because how can

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Speaker 5: Probably would love to be with Aaron Rodgers and Aaron

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Speaker 2: Then he as a Jets fan for almost all my life,

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't go to Joe Douglass. You just go to Woody Johnson.

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, the GM and the coach are going

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Speaker 2: don't know why they but they haven't brought on Hassan

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Speaker 2: It's not your money. And now draft picks. It's like, listen, man,

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Speaker 5: That's that works right to the Raiders favor if if

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Speaker 5: Even though I live in Las Vegas, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: So you said bay Area earlier with DeVante and how

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Speaker 2: So because that's interesting, it allows them to save some

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Speaker 5: So if I'm the Niners and I do do that,

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Speaker 2: Could wrap up with this, Vinnie. So you were in

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Speaker 2: or is it kind of a somber mood with Adams

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Speaker 2: saying he wants out?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not am removed.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously, there's they like DeVante one thing about

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Speaker 5: professional sports.

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Speaker 4: I think you know that know this.

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Speaker 5: Guys compartmentalized pretty easily, and everyone's on their own kind

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Speaker 5: of journey anyway. And not to say that they're being

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Speaker 5: selfish or anything like that. They care for DeVante. He's

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Speaker 5: hugely popular in his locker room, but you also understand

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Speaker 5: there's a business side and for every you know, you

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Speaker 5: look at that wide receiver room and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: there's opportunities for younger players. And they showed on Sunday

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Speaker 5: against the against the Browns a couple of those young

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Speaker 5: players that they were ready for that.

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Speaker 4: For that challenge.

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Speaker 5: So no, I wouldn't say somber, and I do think

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Speaker 5: that what happened against the Browns, it kind of gave

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Speaker 5: the Raiders and a very young locker room a chance

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Speaker 5: to kind of see what life was like without DeVante.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone was anticipating.

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Speaker 5: That it might be a long term life without him,

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Speaker 5: or that his departure was going to be imminent, But

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Speaker 5: at the very least they saw what life looked like

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Speaker 5: without him, and it wasn't that bad, to be honest

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Speaker 5: with the Actually, the offense was pretty fluid on Sunday

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Speaker 5: and you know when you have a big, full pint

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Speaker 5: like Davante. And we saw this with I was saying

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Speaker 5: this on the radio show that I have John Morant

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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago got injured and the Memphis

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Speaker 5: Screers has actually.

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Speaker 4: Actually played better without it.

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Speaker 5: That's not saying that they were a better team team

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Speaker 5: without him, but it freed other players up, and you

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Speaker 5: didn't feel obligated to get him the touches that he

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Speaker 5: obviously deserves and be a dominant force the ball handling,

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Speaker 5: the shooting and all that. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 5: whether the quarterback or the coach wants to truly address this.

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Speaker 5: But every game that she played with the DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 5: and that's been the case here, you know that seventeen

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Speaker 5: needs to get thirteen, you know, targets, fifteen targets, and

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Speaker 5: you just go into every game almost subconsciously knowing that.

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Speaker 5: And so from a play calling standpoint to a quarterbacking standpoint,

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Speaker 5: that's on your mind. Well, that wasn't on Gardner Minshew's

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Speaker 5: mind on Sunday, and neither was it on lu Getzi's

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Speaker 5: mind on Sunday. And you saw the ball just get

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Speaker 5: spread around to a whole bunch of players and it

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Speaker 5: happened or gain and not to say that they're better

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Speaker 5: without him, but there's certain positives to it as well.

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Speaker 5: So maybe that's what they saw on Sunday kind of

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Speaker 5: gave them the confidence that, Okay, if we're to trade him,

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Speaker 5: life doesn't have to be dire straits.

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Speaker 3: That's great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Vinnie bon Segnor covers the Raiders for the Review Journal.

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Speaker 2: He's all over the radio. He's everywhere. Vinny, great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, you know, good luck keeping your phone

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Speaker 2: on for the next two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Jason, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff from Vinnie B and the Raiders. I know

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Speaker 2: the Rob g squad, but my goodness, that franchise. It's

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Speaker 2: been some turmoil. Remember the Josh McDaniel's days. Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: we long for those. Anyways, Thursday night Football, it's Bucks

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Speaker 2: at Falcons all week I've liked the Falcons. As soon

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Speaker 2: as I saw the line, I was like, I gotta

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Speaker 2: go Falcons. Let's go back to teams that covered versus

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Speaker 2: teams that did not. The Bucks covered with ease. They

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Speaker 2: stomped out Philadelphia in a blowout city Atlanta did not

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Speaker 2: cover two and a half did win. They stay home

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Speaker 2: short week. I know the whole first year coach, Well,

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Speaker 2: Rahee Morris has been around the block. This isn't some

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Speaker 2: this isn't Gerrodmeyo here. Raye Morris has been a head

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Speaker 2: coach before. I don't think that really applies here. What

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Speaker 2: is interesting. One injury of note for the Falcons is

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Speaker 2: their linebacker Troy Anderson, who was an absolute monster last

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Speaker 2: week against the Saints. He was everywhere at tackling machine.

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Speaker 2: He's out. Okay, Anderson had a very good game. But

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Speaker 2: then you look at the Bucks injury report and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they're missing a tackle, missing Winfield. In the secondary, they've

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Speaker 2: got two wide receivers down and McMillan who's shown flashes,

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Speaker 2: and Palmer had a touchdown last week, I believe. In addition,

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Speaker 2: can't see the defensive tackles out now. Vita Veya's back in.

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Speaker 2: But I would say the Bucks have more injuries here

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Speaker 2: than Atlanta does. My problem is, you know, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: going up against this Rahie Morris defense. Now, they were

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Speaker 2: together on the Rams, right, so Morris has to know

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Speaker 2: his tendencies. I hope he doesn't trot out the same

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Speaker 2: what is it Cover three defense that he's been using,

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Speaker 2: because Baker has been known to carve up zones he

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Speaker 2: has struggled against Man. I don't know that Atlanta would

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Speaker 2: pivot that quickly and just totally throw a wrinkle. But

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Speaker 2: that's what the good coaches do, don't they. I mean,

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Speaker 2: remember the Eagles against the Saints totally threw a monkey

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Speaker 2: wrench into the Saints attack when they just did one

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Speaker 2: tweek instead of a four to three. They had five

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Speaker 2: guys on the defensive line, totally choked out the running

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Speaker 2: ability of the Saints, and the Saints just weren't ready

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Speaker 2: and couldn't adapt quick enough. Now I don't know if

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Speaker 2: the Falcons are equipped to make a move that quickly

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Speaker 2: and throw a wrinkle at him. I guess I kind

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Speaker 2: of sort of like the matchups for the Falcons secondary

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Speaker 2: Torell pretty good hasn't been amazing and then Mike Hughes

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Speaker 2: has been terrific the veteran we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing a.

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Speaker 2: Total of forty four give me Falcons twenty three Bucks

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Speaker 2: twenty another cool game winning field goal. The Falcons just

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Speaker 2: seemed to always play close games. I just hate betting

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Speaker 2: on him because it's always a friggin sweat. They never

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Speaker 2: make life easy. Kirk Cousins is gonna do something dumb.

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Speaker 2: I just am not a believer in what we saw

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Speaker 2: from the Bucks last week. I don't think that that's Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I think that was more a reflection of the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: just as I don't think the Tampa that beat Detroit

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Speaker 2: on the road, I don't think that's the real Tampa.

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Speaker 3: I think that was a dumb Detroit game plan.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five pass attempts foolish even against a beat up secondary.

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Speaker 2: Play to your strengths. I think this is a good

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Speaker 2: game for Bjean Robinson. I actually picked up Algier. I

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Speaker 2: think he go for seventy five plus. I will be

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Speaker 2: looking at props as they get out closer to tip

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Speaker 2: off kickoff, and I'll be putting them on the GRAM.

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Speaker 2: A big, big Thursday night hoops action for the great Foxes.

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Speaker 2: We're playing the defending champs. It looks like Richard Jefferson

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Speaker 2: is a late scratch, which is not great news. Don't

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Speaker 2: tell the opponent, but you know, we should have most

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Speaker 2: of our other guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I would put us at minor underdogs in this one. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: clips on the Gram after the game. Enjoy the Thursday

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Speaker 2: at football and also the great Foxes.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you tomorrow