1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: From the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: It was about ten years ago, Danielle, that we met 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Dan Harris. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 3: I know it's crazy, and. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: He has this book which I I loved, called ten 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Percent Happier. If you can just be ten percent happier, 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: I go for more. Anyway, Dan's story is great. I 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: know you've told your story a thousand times, but we're 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: going to have to tell it again. 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm happy to humiliate myself all over again. Good just 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: for your if you're listening, pleasure. If you fall short, 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: well humiliate you for you. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Dan, of course you've seen him on Good Morning America 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: at Nightline you do not like as well. And you 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: were actually doing the news on Good Morning America one 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: morning and your life changed that date in a frightening 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: but great way. 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Well ultimately great. But yes, I was doing the news 20 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: and I lost my mind. Basically, this was back in 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. I was anchoring the news updates 22 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: on Good Morning America and I was in the middle 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: of reading a whole set of stories off of the teleprompter. 24 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: And this is super inconvenient. I found that I could 25 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: not breathe. My heart was racing, my lungs seized up, 26 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: my palms were sweaty, my thoughts were racing, and the 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: more I noticed that my body was in mutiny mode, 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: the more my mind was freaking out. And that created 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: a vicious cycle. And right in the middle of this, 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I realized I had to quit and toss it back 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: to the main hosts of the show, who were Diane 32 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Sawyer and Charlie Gibson. And it was totally humiliating. 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: And it was live online, the biggest morning show in America. 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Other than that, we're talking about a hit of anxiety, 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: a hit of fright, and then you realize something about 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: yourself that moment and started to discover a part of yourself. 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: I need to figure this out. 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, in the moment I realized I had 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: a panic attack, I lied to everybody because I didn't 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: want to admit that, and then I went to a 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: psychiatrist and I learned something even more embarrassing, which was 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: what caused the panic attack. I had spent a lot 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: of time after nine to eleven as a very ambitious 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: young correspondent in Iraq and Afghanistan and in Israel, the 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: West Bank and Gaza. Basically several years as a war correspondent, 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: and I had come home from any of these experiences 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: and gotten depressed. And I found there was a really 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: convenient fix for this cocaine. And turns out this is 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: a phenomenally stupid idea. 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: It smells so good. 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are so many benefits in the moment. So yeah, 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm just editing myself so I don't get canceled. Yeah, 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: so cocaine. And I was not high when I was 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: on the air. But when I went to this psychiatrist, 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: he asked me a bunch of questions to try to 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: figure out why did you lose your mind on television? 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: And one of the questions was do you do drugs? 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: And I kind of sheepishly said yes, and I don't 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: know if you've ever been to a shrink, But he 61 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: kind of leaned back in his chair and gave me 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: a look that communicated the following sentiment. Okay, a whole 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: mystery solved, And I was like, oh man, okay, So 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: the big change I made right there was I quit 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: doing drugs and I started seeing this shrink once or 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: twice a week for ten years. Wow, ten years. 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: But then meditation came into your world. 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: Then it became a useless hippie. 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. Keep in mind, if you watch 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: network TV, network news, you know a lot of their 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: journalists have assignments. The particular assignments, and yours was spirituality 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: and religion. 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: Yes, so there's this huge anchorman back in the day 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: that Elvis and I will remember. But some of you, youngster, 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: you say, Danielle, I don't know. You might be right 76 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: on the bubble. But there was a huge anchorman named 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Peter Jennings, of course, and Peter was my boss and mentor. 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: And I now, and I speak to young people, I 79 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: get this look that I think Gandhi's given me right now, like, 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: who are you talking about? 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Big deal? Yeah? 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So he was a huge deal in thirty million 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: homes an evening. And I had grown up watching him, 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and I was terrified of him and also idolized him. 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: And he took me aside one day and said, you, Dan, 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: are going to start covering faith and spirituality. And I 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: was raised in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, and so 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: you had neither faith nor spirituality. No, I did have 89 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: a bar mitzvah, but only for money. So like I 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: was not Mausel yeah, it was in a fine tradition. 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: So in your in your journeys, you stumbled upon on 92 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: medal meditation. 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: I started, you know, I had been living with anxiety 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and stress and depression for most of my life, and 95 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: going to a therapist was helpful. But then I started 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: reading about the the benefits of meditation that could help you. 97 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: Because I always considered meditation for people who like live 98 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: in a yurt that are really into patually and smell 99 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: like feet and wear little finger symbols. 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: You just subscribe to gone his entire family. 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but they have like a massive yur It's 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: a nice yurt, I get it. That's not what I'm 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: talking about. A mansion, Yeah, exactly, glamorous YURTA No. So 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I had negative opinion of meditation, but then I saw 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: all of the science that shows that I'm not a scientist, 106 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: just to be clear, but I'm married to one. She's 107 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: sitting right over there, and I have a lot of 108 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: respect for science. And the science shows that a little 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: bit of meditation can lower the release of stress hormones 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: in your brain, reduce your blood pressure, rewire key parts 111 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: of the brain that are associated with self compassion, associated 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: with a focus associated with stress. And so then I 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: saw that science and I started doing it and it 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: made a real difference from me. 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: You saw it how quickly the difference it took. 116 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny with meditation, and I know you've 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: done it, and I'd be curious to hear your story 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: on this. It's not like going to the gym and 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: where the feedback is immediate. You're like, your body is 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: saying this sucks. Stop doing this. So you like, you 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: know something's happening with meditation. You really have to have 122 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: some trust that you give it a shot for a 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and then you will start to see 124 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: some changes, like you start to get a little calmer, 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: You're less emotionally reactive. You notice like you have this 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 1: thought of, oh, I'm gonna I'm about to say something 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: that's going to ruin the next forty eight hours of 128 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: my marriage, or I'm gonna I'm gonna eat this sleeve 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: of oreos, and instead of just acting on it blindly, 130 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: you let it come and go. You let it go, 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: And that is that is where the rubber hits the road. 132 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: It's this ability to not take your thoughts so seriously. 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: That's that's the win. And it just takes a minute. 134 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: You got to kind of do it every day or 135 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: daily ish for a little while, and then you start 136 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: to see the benefits. Does that track free? 137 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: You know. 139 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: I started with this. It was meditation for dummies kind 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: of thing. 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 142 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: Uh. I think it was a little book with not 143 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: many pages because I don't like lots of pages in 144 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: my books. It was either the seven or the thirteen 145 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: minute Meditation. I forget the name of the book. So 146 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, let me try this garbage. See what happens. 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: And I started doing it every single day and I 148 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: started to get it, and I remember maybe a week 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: or two in it. I remember opening my eyes and going, okay, 150 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: I think I get this now, and it kicked me 151 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: upside the head. I got it. And I was talking 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: to Danielle about this earlier. She said, I can't do meditation. 153 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: Dan knows I can't do meditation because I can't get 154 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: It's like I'm doing everything, I can't get thoughts out 155 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: of my mind. And I'm like, well, that's meditation. And 156 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: I gave them this simple Okay, You're standing on a 157 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: bridge over a creek. You see a leaf coming down 158 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: the creek, it goes underneath you and then the leaf 159 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: just floats away. And that's how you have to treat 160 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: This is how I see anyway, that's how you treat 161 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: these thoughts in your mind. You got to you acknowledge 162 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: them and let them go away. And having thoughts about 163 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: something during meditation, I mean you're a failure? Is it? 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: Letting them go? Means you're doing some right there? 165 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: If you learn how to meditate, then you know how. 166 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us go through this where 167 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: at night you're awake and everything from the day is 168 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: just in your head and all your anxieties and all 169 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: your thoughts, and sometimes with me it's oh that fan 170 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: really sounds like it's about to fly off the ceiling 171 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: like things like that, Like well, that helped to calm 172 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: those moments. 173 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think there are some people who are unfixable. 174 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Just to say, you know, and we may I may 175 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: be talking to one, you know what you d I 176 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: was prepared to give this lecture to scary, but. 177 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: He's unfixable. 178 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: You know what. 179 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: It's just meditation that scares people. They're like, ooh, I 180 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: don't know what that means, So therefore does it mean 181 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: like I have to be a Baptist. 182 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: I mean, is it religion? And uh, it really isn't 183 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: let me demystify it. 184 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: Please do it because you know how to do it. 185 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: It's totally secular. You can it's an exercise for your brain. 186 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to join a group, you don't have 187 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: to believe in anything, and you can do it even 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: if you have a pre existing set of religious beliefs. 189 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: That it would be like adding jogging onto your baptism 190 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, so it's or your Baptist faith. There's nothing 191 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: spiritual quote unquote about it, at least in the early stages. 192 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: If you want to get more serious, you could move 193 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: into Buddhist or Vedic meditation. But like mindfulness meditation, the 194 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: kind of meditation I teach, which has been studied in 195 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: the labs extensively, is thoroughly secular. To your question about 196 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: seeing how wild the mind is, Elvis Duran, your boss, 197 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm sad to say, was absolutely correct. When you see 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: that your mind is wild, that is proof that you're 199 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: doing it right, which is so liberate. It should be 200 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: so liberating for people to hear this. 201 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: Explain that, by the way. 202 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want my mind to calm now, I 203 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: don't want to go crazy. 204 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: You're thinking about it, and that's the beginning. 205 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's the wanting to achieve a certain outcome that 206 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: is the problem. In meditation, you're just learning to be 207 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: cool with whatever verse there, and you have the thoughts 208 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: can come. The question isn't about changing the thoughts. The 209 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: question is changing how you are with those thoughts. 210 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: Oh so instead of thinking about it constantly, it would 211 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: just come and go through like the feather and go 212 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: out the other show. 213 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: Yes, you're seeing all of these crazy thoughts come. You're 214 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: planning a homicide, You're wondering how successful scaries, next weight 215 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: gain project is going to be, whatever it is. You're 216 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: watching stars. You just you don't have a mic, So 217 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable teasing you. There's a reason he has 218 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: no mic. 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 220 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for everybody's protection and including his own. So 221 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: in meditation, you're sitting. Generally you sit close your eyes, 222 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: try to focus on one thing. Usually it's the feeling 223 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: of your breath coming out in and out. If the 224 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: breath is makes you anxious, that that is true. For 225 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: some people, they want to focus on something else. It 226 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: could just be the sensations of your body sitting so 227 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: you're sitting comfortably. You've chosen one thing to focus on. 228 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: And the third and final, most important step is every 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: time you get distracted, which will happen a million times, 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: just start over and you need. When people see how 231 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: distractable they are, the voice in their head swoops in 232 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: and tells them a whole story about how I, Danielle 233 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: am unfixable and can never meditate, et cetera, et cetera. 234 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: But in fact, the moment you wake up from distraction 235 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and see how wild the mind is, that is success. 236 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: You should say great, patch yourself on the back, go 237 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: back to the breath or whatever you're focusing on, and 238 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: just do that over and over and over. That's like 239 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: a bicep curl for your brain, and it changes the brain. 240 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: This is what we see on the brain scans of meditators. 241 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: And the benefit is over time, the more familiar you 242 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: get with how wild your mind is, the less owned 243 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: you are by all of your crazy thoughts, and that 244 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: is huge. 245 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: Gandhi, yes, Gandhi's a meditator. 246 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I am. 247 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how many time do you do it? 248 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: A lot? Yeah? 249 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 5: I would say five times a week. It's important to me. 250 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 5: I also think just if you can't settle your mind, 251 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: or you feel like you can't settle your mind, at 252 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 5: least for me, I just focus on breathing because oxygen 253 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 5: to the body in the brain makes such a difference 254 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 5: for me, and I think for everybody. A lot of times, 255 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 5: when you find yourself panicking or in a tight situation 256 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 5: and you just take a deep breath in the middle 257 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: of that, you notice the difference. It resets you. So 258 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: for me meditating sometimes when I'm having a tough time 259 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 5: with it, I just focus on the breathing, and that's 260 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: the easy way to go. 261 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: So you'll do deep breathing, Oh yeah in that case. Yeah, 262 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: So I mean this is beautiful. Absolutely. There's a ton 263 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: of science to show that deep breathing, systematic deep breathing 264 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: can calm your nervous system. And I often start my 265 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: meditation sessions with a couple minutes of deep breathing so 266 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more chill, and then I start meditating. 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: But there's still all these wild thoughts that come up. 268 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: And that's not a problem. That is the practice. You're 269 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: not trying to achieve some special state. And I think 270 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: part we've been ill served by the fact that they 271 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: have these Buddhist statues outside of all of the airport spas, 272 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: and he looks like he's floating off into the cosmos 273 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: and like bullet proof bliss. But that's not what the 274 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: experience is. The experience is more like exercise where you're 275 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: being confronted with your neurosis and learning to ride them 276 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: instead of being owned by them. 277 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: And even having done it as long as you have, 278 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: do you have moments where you can't concentrate fully on 279 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: the meditating goes? 280 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Every time I meditate, I've just dropped the expectation that 281 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to concentrate that that's just 282 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: not the that's I've I've learned that the point is 283 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: not to get somewhere, it's just to be with whatever's 284 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: here right now, because that just teaches you how to 285 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: move through life with some degree of calm, you know, 286 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: because there's so many things that happen in life that 287 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: we can't control. I'm not saying anything new here, but 288 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: how do you want to be with that stuff? Do 289 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: you want to be resisting it, tight grasping onto it, 290 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: or do you want to be supple and responding wisely. Yep, 291 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you know it makes so much sense. 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: It does, it does, but it takes practice. Here you 293 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: are sitting in this room full of lights, full of 294 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: blinking buttons, and you have calls coming in, you have 295 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: a guest over here, you have us over here. Now 296 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: you just think about your breathing for a second. Can 297 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: you do it? Mm hmm? Yeah, Okay, I guess what 298 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: you're meditator. I mean it's it's step one. Yeah, just 299 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: focus on it. 300 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: There's the app that you have help. 301 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Yes. I think guided meditations absolutely help with because what 302 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: you need to be is reminded that you're doing it right. 303 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: You just need to hear somebody like me tell you 304 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, you're not screwing this up. 305 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: You're good. Actually, I started a website Dan Harris dot 306 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: com and there are a bunch of free meditations on there, 307 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: so you don't have to pay anything, and there's a 308 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: little quiz where you can find out what's the best 309 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: meditation style for you. So my goal is just to 310 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: make this as user friendly as possible, to take away 311 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: all your excuses, all your fears, and just help you 312 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: do this thing because it will help and it's not. 313 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: I I don't think it's something you can really fail at. 314 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Even if you. 315 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 5: Don't make your seven minutes or your thirteen minutes, if 316 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: you can do four, Danielle, it's better than nothing. Maybe 317 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: the next day you do five, the next. 318 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: Thay you do six. 319 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: It is just like exercise. I think you shouldn't put 320 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 5: so much pressure on yourself. 321 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Could we agree that Scary could fail at it? 322 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: I actually okay, of all of us in the room, 323 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 5: I think Scary could be the most successful. Because he 324 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: said he has no inner dialogue. When he's not speaking, 325 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 5: nothing is happening. 326 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: I believe that he is zero. He is he look 327 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: at him, zero thought at all. By the way, he's 328 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: just turning us on. Dan Harris is here. We've been 329 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: friends with him for about ten years, and of course 330 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: we're celebrating the tenth anniversary of his best selling book 331 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: called Ten Percent Happier, which is a fantastic read. 332 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: By the way, and I think last time you were here, 333 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: your your kid was just born. How old? 334 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Now he's nine nine and I live with an insult comic. 335 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy. He is constantly like he'll he'll have some 336 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: line criticizing me, and then I'll walk away and say savage. 337 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: Life. 338 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: You're at work, one says something that makes your blood 339 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: boil because you met with adversity. How do you get 340 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: in the moment and rein it in like right there 341 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: in that moment when you don't have time to go 342 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: off on your own and meditate, Like, how you get 343 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: the process started in the middle of an argument and 344 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: things are escalating. 345 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Great question. I'm surprised it came from you. 346 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: It is eye opening. It in the heat of if 347 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: you're in the heat of the moment, there are ways 348 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: to reel yourself back on. 349 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: But just let's just say this. You know, if somebody 350 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: mugs you on the street, you want to have done 351 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: enough cardio in advance so that the running away from 352 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: the mugger is easier to do. So daily practice arms 353 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: you for life's inevitable ups and downs. Having said that, 354 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: the way it works for me when I'm on my game, 355 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: and I want to be clear, you know, I wrote 356 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: a book called ten Percent Happier. I am not perfect, 357 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: but when I'm on my game, I'm having a conversation safe. 358 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: On the occasion when Bianca says something provocative to me, 359 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: I will notice, Oh, I'm I'm really feeling angry. I 360 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: can feel it in my chest. My ears are buzzing. 361 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm having a starburst of like really cool thoughts or 362 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: ideas that I might articulate. And then I could just 363 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: get curious about it, like what does this feel like? 364 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: It's going to come and go. The half life of anger, 365 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: if you don't mess with it, is about a minute 366 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: or two. But we re up it compulsively, we can 367 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: make it last for days. And the difference between the 368 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: amount of damage you can do in two days of 369 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: anger versus two minutes is incalculating. 370 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 371 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: And so it's about seeing what's happening, having enough self 372 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: awareness to see what's happening and let it go and 373 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: without acting on it, and so that you can respond 374 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: wisely to things instead of reacting blindly. That's the key. 375 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: Dan Harris dot com, by the way, he said, there 376 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: are some guided meditations waiting for you, totally free, and 377 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: a questionnaire you can answer some questions at what path 378 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: you may want to take. And you said there's there's 379 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: an event or something there was something else you want 380 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: to talk about, Oh yeah, in March twenty eighth, March 381 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: twentyeth if. 382 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: You guys want to come. I would love to have you. 383 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: I'll only charge you the highest rate. That's so cool. 384 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: It's at at Symphony Space in New York City. I'm 385 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna do I'm going to be doing a live version 386 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: of my podcast where I'm going to interview Joseph Goldstein 387 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: and Mark Epstein are two of the greatest meditation teachers 388 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: alive right now in the West. And we're gonna have 389 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: a band there and it's going to be part a 390 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: meditation band. 391 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just silent. 392 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: I don't hear anything exactly, it's just going to be 393 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: interpretive dance of music. You don't hear. 394 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: Of course, all the infos at Dan Harris dot com. 395 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Everything's there. 396 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: My favorite thing, my favorite story in ten Person Happier 397 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: then We'll let you go hold On is when you 398 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: actually went to a place and you have to be 399 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: totally silent for how long? 400 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: Ten days? 401 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: Ten days, and to read your moment by moment account 402 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: of this, basically I got a little anxious, yeah, because 403 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: you come from a world of words and expressing and 404 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: writing and painting pictures with words, and you had to 405 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: go into a world of silence. 406 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: As silent as the insight of security's brain. 407 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 5: What did you do today? 408 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: I can't help it. I got me started. And so 409 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: for ten days? What did you get out of silence 410 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: for ten days? Okay, So it's not really the silence 411 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: that is. People always focus on the silence of a 412 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: silent retreat, and that is scary in advance, but it's 413 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: not the most prominent feature once you get there. The 414 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: most prominent feature once you get there. The thing that 415 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: really has your attention is that you're expected to meditate 416 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: from five point thirty in the morning all the way 417 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: up until ten o'clock at night, and it's just NonStop, 418 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: you in your own experience, in your own mind, in 419 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: a way that we never do this in our daily lives, 420 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: and it's just a it's an incredibly high dosage. And 421 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: I found for the first four or five days that 422 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: I was miserable, and on the fifth day I was 423 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: actually really ready to leave. I was pushing hard, trying hard. 424 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: I was falling into the trap that we talked about earlier, Danielle, 425 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: where I was wanting a certain experience. I wanted to 426 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: feel calm, and I definitely did not feel calm. And 427 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: on the fifth day I went in and spoke to 428 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: one of the teachers and I was like, I gotta go. 429 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm failing at this and she said, no, you're just 430 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: trying too hard. And it was like, whoo oh, that's right, 431 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm just trying too hard. So I went and did 432 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: a meditation outside instead of being in the room with 433 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: everybody else, and I just kind of relaxed, watch my 434 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: breath every time I get distracted, start again, not complicated, 435 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: and boom. I had an experience for thirty six hours 436 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: that was the happiest of my life where the volume 437 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: of mental chatter, all of my racing, neurotic thoughts, that 438 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: volume went way down, and instead I was really just 439 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: in the press as a moment and hearing the birds 440 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: and smelling my food and feeling my body moved through space, 441 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: and that was accompanied by just a huge blast of serotonin. 442 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: It went away, because everything changes all the time, but 443 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: it gave me an enormous amount of faith that this 444 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: practice is not hippie nonsense. It really is doing something, 445 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: and that there are levels of our mind access that 446 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: we have access to, levels of happiness that most of 447 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: us don't normally achieve. 448 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: Well, we have to find them, you know. It's something 449 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: as simple as walking down the street, being aware of 450 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: things you pass. That's a form of meditation to me, 451 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 2: rather than thinking, oh my god, I have to get 452 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: from point at a point me, I gotta get there 453 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: now because some people just you know where you're going. 454 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna get there physically, but just to look over it, 455 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: it's just flower over here. Oh my god, there's a dog, 456 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: and look at the dog. Look at the dog's ears. 457 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean, being aware of things that are around you 458 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: at all times, that is a form of meditation to me. 459 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: It is a million percent were trying to do. Here 460 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: is counter program against our natural tendency, which is to 461 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: walk around a sleep We are sleepwalking. We're stuck in 462 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: this layer of story in our head that thoughts about 463 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: the past, thinking about the future. We're stuck by it, 464 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: in this NonStop conversation which if we broadcast allowed, you'd 465 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: be locked up. We are living in this layer that 466 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: is actually quite superficial. But there's so much more on offer. 467 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: That is just about tuning into the raw data of 468 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: your senses. Oh that's what that dog's ear looks like. 469 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: That's what the air feels like on my face. This 470 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: is what my legs feel like, as I'm moving through space. 471 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: You're systematically training your mind to wake up to the 472 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: only time it ever is, which is right now. And 473 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful practice. It's just hard. 474 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 2: As they say, you got to live a dog's life. 475 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: A dog is nowhere but in the present. Yes, a 476 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: dog's on thinking about a moment ago and not thinking 477 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: about the next moment. A dog is always thinking about 478 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: that tree, that squirrel, you that oh my god, there's 479 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: food on the ground. That dog is living in that moment. 480 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: And there's so much to learn from dogs. That's why 481 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: we love them. 482 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: If you find yourself pooping on the rug, you should 483 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: reconsider it. 484 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's not good. I wish you were here 485 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: ten minutes earlier that my next book, ten minutes earlier. 486 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: Things I could change in my life. 487 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: You'll be hearing from my lawyers. 488 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: So okay, Dan Harris dot com. Of course the retreat, 489 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: learn about it. There's a band, where's it? 490 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: Symphony Sympty Space March twenty eighth. There's gonna be a band. 491 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: There's gonna be great meditation teachers. They're gonna be our 492 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: first attempt at merch. We've got to merch with the 493 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: words on it that I can't say on FCC regulator. 494 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: Thank you effort. Now the podcast people are texting it 495 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: about the podcast ten percent happier. 496 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that podcast. I started that about eight or nine 497 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: years ago as a kind of afterthought after I wrote 498 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: the book, and I thought it would be a cute 499 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: little whatever. Elvis Durant came and graced me slash us 500 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: as one of our first guests, and it's it has 501 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: totally swallowed my life. It has become the center of 502 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: my professional life. And there's I realized there's so many 503 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: people listen to the show who don't even know I 504 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: wrote a book that that this that the show is 505 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: based funny and and we reach more people in a 506 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: four to six week period that have ever read the books? 507 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: How many every month? Number it's eight hundred thousand people. 508 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: You should be on the Elvis Tran podcast network. 509 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. 510 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: Can you get the book on audible? 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: You can get the Yeah, I read it myself. I like, 512 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: because you have we want. 513 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: A neck not yeah, you got neck nuts? 514 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: Neck nut? 515 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, net nuts when you have a low voice. 516 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: Voice, Yes, did you see I was just watching that 517 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Hugh Grant neck nuts a bit from SNL. Did you 518 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: ever see that. No, well, can I talk about this, 519 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: You can talk about. 520 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: It as an Almonds and Pustashie. 521 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to get in trouble. 522 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: That said, Dan. 523 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Harris, Danielle took us into dangerous. 524 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: I know Dan Harris dot com to learn everything, and 525 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: of course ten percent Happier is the podcast, but the 526 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: book that started it all with us anyway, the tenth anniversary, 527 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: congratulations for ten percent Happier, Dan Harris, love. 528 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: You, thank you, really appreciate it. 529 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: I get out of here, scary hate you