WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour | Pete & Tony Discuss Jaguars' Roster Development Through 16 Weeks 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.880 It is Monday, December twenty third. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.280 This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.560 Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:19.000 Loans and now a guy with his own missiletoe farm 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.200 jap check that can be convenient Welcome in. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.320 It is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.960 JP Shadrick from the Hundai Studios Busy two hours ahead 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:37.040 on ten tenxl Amjaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube recapping 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.880 another Jaguars loss, Raiders nineteen Jaguars fourteen. The only bright 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.440 spot Brian Thomas Junior goes over one thousand yards for 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.880 the season. Defensive issues continue, though we'll keep it real 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.640 involving the draft order, which has improved fanatics, fan questions, 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.400 we'll try to get to those coming up. We'll go 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.480 around the National Football League as well. After the game 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.720 in law Las Vegas, another loss head coach Doug Peterson. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.360 Ah, you're right, it's not for the you know, for 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.800 lack of effort, physicality and all that. The guys, guys 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:19.039 do play hard, but the mistakes, penalties, you know, things 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.119 that just kind of held us back all season. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.000 It's just it's the it's the. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.120 I think his coaches players. It is the frustrating part. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.680 And uh, until we get that corrected, obviously, you know 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.560 there's gonna be a lot of a lot of long days. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:42.399 We gotta get fixed. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.320 Boy, A frustrated head coach after the game. Pete Prisco, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.240 CBS Sports senior writer in South Florida. Pro Football Hall 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.960 of Fame left tackle Tony Bisselli is at home in 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.280 his home studio today and uh, boy, that that's a 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.560 that's a defeat. It's so it's so funny, Tony. What's 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.600 the what's the smile? 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:06.400 I mean what you called it my home studio? Yeah, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.000 I guess. Uh, it's Christmas. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.200 I got my daughter flew in today from Oklahoma. I 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.359 got you know, Christmas Eve. But so we have a 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.000 bunch of family here and I'm like, you know what 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.920 I'm gonna I'm gonna kick it here so I can 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.079 spend as much time as possible with him. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.120 Plus plus he could always it's always great to do 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.520 the show next to your bust. I mean, what the 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:33.239 hell me and j P don't have busts behind us 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:33.600 and our. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:37.799 Shall I just leave it like that? 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.800 No, it's bad enough seeing one of those heads, the 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:47.040 real one but no, uh, by the way back to Doug, Well, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.839 until we get it fixed, so we're gonna have don't 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.360 worry about it. It's probably only two more weeks to 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:53.560 worry about fixing it. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.040 I'm not saying, I'm not I'm saying with this group. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:05.760 Oh yeah, no yeah, I mean, listen, how do I 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:10.919 say this. You're three and twelve. I mean the high 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.799 level mark at this point is five and twelve. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:13.200 Nobody. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.040 I mean, you got to finish the season, and you 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.519 got to try to finish it the best you possibly can. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:23.600 And if you're It's different for the fans and us 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.800 compared to the players and coaches because the players and 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.600 coaches don't care about draft status or anything like that, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.080 and so they just want to win and that's what 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.720 they should be thinking about. They just want to try 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.560 to finish on a good note, some positive feelings on 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.120 a Sunday night. Enjoy, you know, try to enjoy the 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.280 last you know, two weeks of this season where the 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.240 fans beat and you know this, I mean we saw it. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.760 The Raider fans were ticked leaving Oakland, I mean I 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.480 leave in Las Vegas because they're like, wait a second, 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.320 we won the game. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.600 But we have the worst draft of status. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.880 Well, now they don't have the quarterback, right. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.560 And so everybody else, you know, the fans and everyone 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.800 else at this point are side. Listen, Let's get the 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.480 best possible draft pick we can. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.280 Let's get this thing over with and let's get to 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:09.920 the off season. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:14.760 So I was waiting for the call down Raiders, Raiders 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.440 from above Mark Davis. He says, please let them score, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.279 Please let them score. You know, think about think about 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.360 how the fortunes you franchise might change. You might have 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.000 had one of those two quarterbacks and if one of 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.680 them turns out, if the one you were gonna get 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.800 turns out to be like Jayden Daniels, you just ruined it. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.760 Well not yet, I mean, still two weeks to go. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.479 I mean, I think the only thing we know about 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.200 the NFL draft is that the Giants are going to 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.279 be had the first overall pick. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:43.680 That's about all we know. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.479 Feels that way, right, that. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.560 Knows what's gonna happen. I mean, it can change multiple times. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.200 Well, this game to Jacksonville this week is big for 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.160 draft seeding, draft position. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.719 But this is the worst possible place for an organization 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:07.159 where your fan base is like literally hoping to lose 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.600 because the fan base cares more about the draft at 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:10.719 this point than anything. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.799 Else, well not almost anything else. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.599 Okay, let's be honest. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.159 The fan base cares about what's going to happen the 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:19.320 Monday after the season. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.680 Well, the fan base wants changes they want, that's fair. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.760 Let's be the fan base wants everybody out, start all 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.039 over and and go from there. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.359 That's first and foremost. That's one priority. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.520 Here's my it'll be interesting. I haven't looked at the 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.760 X questions yet today. I'm sure I can guess what 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.880 they are because it's been a theme the last you know, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.880 several weeks to months. But if you like, if I 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:49.200 was stack ranking what the fans care about right now, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.279 one would be change, two would be the draft, and 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.600 then three would be what happens on Sunday. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.000 Might even be further down than three. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.000 Sudden, Well, if there's only three categories in my point, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:10.320 and that's third, and if you waited those, it's sixty percent. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:17.240 You know, change, thirty nine percent draft, and one percent. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.479 I take your high on the high on the draft, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.359 because the way that the fans look at it, the 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.320 draft won't matter unless you make changes. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:34.400 Okay, maybe it's ninety percent nine and then yeah, nine 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.599 point nine percent draft and zero point one percent you know, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.080 Sunday's game. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.920 And I don't even know if point one percent factors 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.080 that you might not even register. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.320 That's how bad that I can't image what the crowd 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:45.840 is going to be. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.040 Like, yeah, who knows. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.640 But here's this is the sad thing for me because 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.400 I mean, I even have a different perspective than you, Pete. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.640 I mean, and I know you care about the franchise, 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:56.760 but I love this boll. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:58.760 I do it. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.680 So it pains me to be in the position we 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.720 are that our fan base is thinking one thing completely 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.800 on a different page than what's happening in the building 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.120 with the coaches and players. And that's the like, when 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.320 it's going good, this time of the year is the 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.600 best to be in an NFL city. When you're when 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.960 you have a good football team, you're winning, Your fans 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.320 are going crazy, they're you know, so excited, the players 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.400 are excited. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.960 Like everyone's aligned. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.960 And that's that's the magical part of the NFL come December, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.240 and unfortunately that's not where we are right now. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.680 And that was a bad team they lost. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.480 To them they lost ten in a row, Pete the r. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.880 I mean, here's the other part of that is how 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.680 many guys. I mean, when you look, when you look 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.320 at coaches and gms over the years, how many guys 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.280 make it through on ten game losing streets streaks after 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.160 what happened last year? I mean, the ain't a lot. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.520 So you think Antonio pierces out too. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.760 I do. I think Brady is going to go in 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.360 there and take that thing over and give up his 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.120 TV booth and and and become their executive VP. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.240 And he's gonna make a change. I think that. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.920 And and again, if you make a change and you 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.400 don't get a quarterback, it ain't gonna matter anyways. Let's 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.360 let's that's first and foremost. And they blew a great 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.920 opportunity to get a quarterback. Now, whether you believe Shador 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.560 Sanders or cam Ward is the answer. There's a clear 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.559 line of delineation between those two and the next ones. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.320 And so you give yourself a chance. And if you 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.240 don't get him, what are your options? Go pay Sam 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.360 Darnold fifty million dollars a year. I don't go get 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:49.400 Kirk Cousins. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.880 I don't think Minnesota is gonna let you out let 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:52.680 him out of the building. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.880 I wouldn't think so either, But go get go, get go, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.280 get Kirk Cousins. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.680 After don't get JJ, then when he's ready, you can't 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.319 get him if they're not gonna play him. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.000 That's just the point, though, is if you don't get 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.040 the quarterback, I don't care who your head coach is. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.000 If your quarterback isn't fixed, you're not winning. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.160 Well, well, hold on, I'm gonna back up for a second. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.720 First of all, Pete, I you're like, this is why 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.760 you're wrong on that statement, and I'm gonna use it 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:27.920 like a team this year and we didn't talk about this, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.880 but let's like just act like you. I just gave 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.440 you truth serum. So you got to tell the truth here. Boy, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.480 you got to think back to what you were thinking 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.720 at the moment beginning of the season, before one game 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:46.480 had been played. J. J. McCarthy's out hurt. They got 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.520 rid of Danil Hunter on defense. It looked like a 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:54.520 rebuild type of situation. Kevin O'Connell, I think we all 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.320 think he's a good coach. I mean, coming into the season, 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.040 we know he's a good coach. Now, I mean I 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:00.959 always thought it's good coach. But we thought he was 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.600 a good coach. But Sam Donald's going to be the quarterback. Pete, 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.600 how many games was Minnesota winning In Pete Pritzo's mind, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.240 was Sam Donald's quarterback? 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:12.600 Eight eight? 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:13.880 They're thirteen. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.040 Yeah, And so my point is you have to have 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.720 talent at the quarterback position, and I think Sam Donald's 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.439 a talented player who's not fined. The you know who 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.280 went to the Jets. It was the disaster, the situation there. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.560 He bounced around trying to get footing. But the bottom 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.199 line is it's not just great quarterback play. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:34.560 You have to have a. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.600 You have to have a above average, a good quarterback. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.040 You have to have a great quarterback, and you have 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.520 to have good, great coaching. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.440 And the same thing I'll say because we all now 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.760 want to make our exciting about Jared Goffin. He's an MVP, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.040 but like rewind the tap, two and a half years, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.160 everyone thought that there was no chance he was going 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.920 to make it in Detroit. He started slow. He even 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.320 said himself this week he thought he was getting benched 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.320 when Dan Campbell called him into his office. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.280 But he had also been to a Super Bowl for 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:08.560 Ramsta Beat. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.800 But I know for a fact you were done with 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:11.840 Jared Goff when he. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.720 Went yes, I was not I I was. In fact, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.600 I was one. I'll be honest about Sam Darnold. Never 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.960 saw this coming ever, and and in the back of 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.000 my mind it's still there. When does it become Sam Darnold. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.199 It's hard not to. I mean, that's human nature. I 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:35.280 guess my point is, Beat, I think it's not just 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.920 head coaches. I think really good organizations with alignment top 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.680 to bottom, with really good head coaching and coaching staff 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:45.360 can do a lot. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.240 As long as you have a good quarterback. You don't 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.640 have to have Joe Burrow. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.640 But you have to have for sustainable success in the NFL, 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.360 you have to have coach, big people. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.840 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.800 I'm not in that order, but I'm just saying I'm. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.040 Gonna give you what you have to have for a 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:11.000 good organization, ownership, front office, coach, quarterback, big people. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:15.200 Okay, I'll give you that, and and you look at Okay, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.600 let's let's for example, let's use the Bengals. They have 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.240 the coach, I mean, the quarterback, they don't have the 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.240 big people on the I mean their their interior. Their 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.480 lines have been bad for a long time, and some 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.120 people question whether they have the coach. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:33.720 I think he's a good coach. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.640 I do too, And some people question their front office, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.360 which I don't either, because I think he's done a 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.439 pretty good job for considering what they have. So, you know, ownership, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.680 people say the Bengals are cheap. That's an old narrative. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:50.559 It's not the same narrative. So so they're not winning 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.720 because they don't have the big people. You can go 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.720 around the league and one of those five is you're right. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.720 One of those five is bad. You're not winning. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:04.720 But for me, it starts with general manager, quarterback, then. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.679 Coach, because if you don't have the quarterback, to Tony, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.960 if you don't have the quarterback, you could have the 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.000 greatest coach in the world. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.600 Look at Belichick when he didn't have the quarterback. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.560 Hold on, let's make sure we're saying the same thing here, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.040 because I think we are. Actually when you say if 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.000 you don't have the quarterback, I think when people hear that, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.240 immediately people listening to us and think of Josh Allen, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.160 Patrick Mahomes, you know, go down the list of the 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.160 you know, top three to five quarterbacks. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.360 My point is is. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.559 You can have a top ten to twelve quarterback. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.000 Yes, you can have Dak Prescott and win. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:45.040 That's a great example. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.280 Is Trevor Lawrence That. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.520 Yes, I am. Let me just say it now. I've 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.160 said it ten times this year. I'm gonna say it again. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.800 I am a firm believer. I have strong convictions that 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.800 Trevor Lawrence can win you a Super Bowl. And I 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.800 still believe this organ that the organization I love, the 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.280 Jacksonville Jaguars will win a super Bowl with Trevor Lawrence 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:08.120 as the quarterback. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.200 I think you can win a super Bowl with Trevor 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.760 Lawrence as well. I don't like what they've done to him. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:14.400 Well, no one does. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.199 There's reams well, but there's there's reasons for it. And 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.240 I think with the with the right. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.520 System, they're four and seventeen right since. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.960 But again last year, and he's got to I mean, 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.000 he's got he needs better coaching, but he needs better system. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:32.920 He needs to play better all of it, A, B 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:33.280 and C. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:34.480 He needs. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.720 I mean, well he's not I mean just I mean, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.920 let's if you're getting to the game on Sunday, let's 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.240 let's just go through this and this year, Yeah, Trevor 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.280 needs to be better. So I'm not excusing Trevor, and 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.600 I don't think he would excuse himself. But Trevor doesn't 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:55.600 line up on sides or in the right formation. Trevor 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:02.160 does not run the proper coverage. Trevor is not responsible 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:07.840 for everyone knowing their assignments like and so it's not Yeah, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.240 Trevor needs to play better. But I mean Doug talked 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.920 about today and I could see the frustration on his face. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.760 But it ultimately that falls at the foot of the coach. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.160 Well that's where I was gonna go, Pete. You know, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:19.800 it's one thing. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.200 It's one thing if it's a one week deal, but 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.400 we're looking at now a season and it was the 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.520 same issues last year at the back half of the season. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.240 We're busting coverages, busts on defense and line it up 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:36.480 and everything else. It's carried over to this year and 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:41.200 so you know that that has to that has to 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.400 be fixed. I mean I said it this morning with 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.560 with Dan JP and I did a thing for the 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.320 UK or UK audience, and I'll say it again here. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.840 Before you can win in this league, you got to 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.640 start by not beating yourself. I mean that's I mean, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.800 you can't beat yourself. We beat ourselves more than the 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:02.840 other team beats us. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.240 It's sloppy, just sloppy football. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.000 And let's dig into that when we come back a 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.960 little bit more, some of the details of that. It 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.480 showed up again certainly in Las Vegas yesterday. Coming up 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.720 a little later the second hour of the program, we'll 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.160 have your fanatics, fan questions. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:16.960 We'll keep it real. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.760 Another Jags loss three and twelve record, two games to go, 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.920 and if you want customized Jaggs furniture for your home, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.440 check out zipchair dot com and browse all customizable options 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.800 zip Chair Furniture for fans. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.240 by Jet Home Loan. 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.600 I know, for the guys that haven't been around, it's harder, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.560 and I've been through this stuff many times, and you 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.400 just gotta go play ball and know that your tape 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.040 is your resume and everyone's watching the tape and that's 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:58.600 what you gotta do. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:16:59.360 And it stinks. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.240 I do everything in my power to scream at guys 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.399 and cuss and say let's effing go. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.560 But here's what it is. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.359 T Andrew Wingard got some playing time in the game 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.800 in Las Vegas this week on the defensive side. Three 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.919 passes defense and Welcome Back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.120 by jet Hoolme Loans ten toon Xcel, Jaguars dot Com, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.800 Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony Boselli, Pete Frisco after a 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:34.400 Jaguars lost nineteen fourteen ugly ugly, ugly football game. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.960 Pet By the way, he is not a happy CAMPERO. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.400 If I was, if I was the old beat guy 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.160 on that team, I would have had three or four 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.000 stories out of him by the time miking by from 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:46.600 the last one. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.359 He was a little salty by not being on the field. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.440 It sounded like, well, I know what. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:52.320 He's not wrong. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:54.360 That was That was. 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:01.440 Very undooey like, because Dewey's like the consumt and like teams, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:02.760 he's the hype. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.560 Yeah, and that was interesting. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.560 That was something that he has been waiting to say 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:09.280 for a while. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.600 He's coming off with the injury and all that, and 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:13.920 that was kind of the. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.120 How long has he been off that a month? 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.760 I think he's only been back four weeks ago, right, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:21.720 I think it's. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:26.320 A month it's a month, but once you're cleared, that 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.600 means you're ready to go. And he didn't go. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.200 Well wait, he played special teams beat. 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.560 But he should have been on the field. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.560 I got a question for you too, and I'll give 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.840 my opinion after you guys give yours. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.520 How did you think do we play? 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.720 I watched the tape today. It was just. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.919 How does it? Okay, how did do we play? Compared 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.520 to the safety play we've had all year? 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:03.200 Much better? I mean, but like he jumps, he comes 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.560 running up on some routes where. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.000 I get you, but it Yes, he was a much 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:10.320 more active. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:15.679 Yes he should have been. Did you watch the tape today? Yes, okay, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:17.720 you know what I'm talking about. When he there's a 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.720 couple of plays where he comes buzzing up. He's playing 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.960 a good team with a good receiving group. They go 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.680 over the top of him. But saying that, and he 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.280 also missed the tackle. He took the wrong gap on 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.800 the touch that was perfect, but on the touchdown run 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.960 he got caught it saw he jumped inside? Yes, yes, yeah, 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.320 but he made plays which you haven't been seeing from 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:39.959 that spot. 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:44.439 Okay, am I correct that he had three pass breakups yes, 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:47.720 can we can someone tell me the number of pass 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.320 breakups the rest of the safeties out. 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:49.640 On the year. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.240 I can probably do that. Give me a second. I 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:54.200 can find it real quick. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.840 And you know you're not wrong Tony. He was active, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.400 and he was he knew, He looked like he knew 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.880 where he was going a lot of the time, which 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.879 is again been part of the problem. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.040 I just watched that and I'm like, is it just 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.159 me or do we like making more plays? 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.679 And we've seen that in the safety position. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:17.280 Cisco has seven for the year. Let's see Darnel Savage 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.080 has six for the year, but he's been kind of 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:19.880 a nickel. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.600 He's safety for eight weeks. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:29.160 Seven eight weeks and Wingers got three. Johnson, Antonio Johnson 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:29.640 has one. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.320 Yes, he should have been and he had reading the 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:36.400 reason to gripe. 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.320 If you come back off an injury and the guys 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.400 playing in front of you are tearing it up, then 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.480 you get it. Yeah, they have it. They've been. 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.320 That's been one of the weakest spots of the team 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:47.200 the entire year. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.480 But I was like, he messed up on the on 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:56.720 the touchdown. He jumps, he jumped inside that that I'm 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.040 not excusing it, but happens. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.600 I'm just telling you, especially in the fourth quarter he 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.200 popped on film and make busted to remember play and 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.560 a half he had spreak ups and half. 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.520 I think he played like sixty snaps though didn't he. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.520 I thought he only played the second half. Maybe he 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:14.080 got came in. 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.199 The first Oh more than that, I think. I mean, 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.840 let's see, I thought he played like sixty snaps. Winger 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.120 played eighty five percent of the snaps. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:26.320 Okay, so so Savage got hurt early then yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:31.040 but again he has reason to be upset, and I'm 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.400 glad he showed it, but that would have been again, 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:35.960 that should have been out like a couple of weeks ago. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.280 You know, you know how I used to do Tony 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:39.440 go over there and go. 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.800 Hey, you know, shouldn't you be playing? Are you ready 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.640 to play? Why do they hold you back? Hey? 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.960 By the way, it kind of feels like to me, 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.440 that's one of the first times we've heard really kind 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.960 of a raw emotion out of anybody in a lot 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.880 that that intense this year. 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.280 That's I think we're saying that's the first time, and 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:00.400 I think you're jp. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.359 I'm not in every open locker room and out here 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.880 every comment, So maybe there's others. It's the first time 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:10.200 I can remember what you would call a comment off 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.959 the script of the what the coach wants. 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:18.240 Right, by the way, that's not a shot at Doug. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.240 Every head coach and I played for one who wanted 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.280 to control the message more than anyone in the history 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:27.040 of mankind, like Tom did not want. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.920 Players going off script, like here's the message. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.680 Like the message was what he said in the team room, 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.800 you know, supporting your players, never say anything bad about 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.240 the opponent, Like that was the script. 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:37.720 Basically. 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.880 Now, we had a bunch of guys who went off 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:43.359 script sometimes. 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.280 Thank god you did for my business. 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.920 We did go off script at times, But that was 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.160 the first time I can remember going off like here 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.360 in a player this year go off script. 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.280 Like do he made it clear, like, hey, timing out. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.359 There, that's what and I've been doing that all along. 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.520 Basically he is what he's saying. Here's the other thing 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:05.840 about it, And you got to ask your something this. 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:10.120 If he hadn't been hurt, would you have started this year. 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.560 I'll just say this, it's a small sample size, but 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.800 I'm based on what I saw yesterday he should be 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:17.560 your start and safety. 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:18.680 So should he start next week? 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:19.159 Yes? 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.520 I mean, what's his contract status? 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.199 This is his last year, isn't it. 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:24.560 Before the Sea? 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.119 That's right? But how many years was it? 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.040 Three? Guess? 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.840 I got it. I thought he had maybe. 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.000 Yeah, three years nine point six. 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.040 He should be on the field, yes, because going forward 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:38.080 he's going to be a part of the team. He 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.720 should be on the field. So next you know how 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:45.080 they took Darby and sat him down, next week they 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.600 should take somebody whichever one you want to sit him down. 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.480 Yeah, next year twenty five is his final year of 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:51.680 his contract. 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:56.600 Hey, JP, what do they say about Savage's injury today? 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:56.960 Yeah? 0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.000 Concussion protocol, So he'll be iffy for next week anyway. 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.359 Yeah, that's right, that's right, So we'll see. 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.440 So if he's not there, Dewey should start for sure. 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.119 Well, and then you look the next year, Pete, My 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.480 guess is not looking We did this last week and 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.600 we didn't look at Savage's number. I'm sure Savage has 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.000 a pretty big dead number because he just signed if 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.119 I mean, so, Savage is going to be back up, 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.800 And I'm not saying Savage doesn't deserve me back that's 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:29.320 not my point that the team of dead contract this one. 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.400 Here's Jacksonville team of dead contracts. 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.359 Darnell Savage. Cap hit next year four point eight million, 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.560 the dead cap ten point twenty five. 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:39.840 Yeah, you're gonna keep him. I mean Savage. I mean, 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.000 I don't think Savage been Okay, Well, I. 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.040 Should have been playing safety the whole time, like I 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:45.640 said in the preseason. 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.720 Like at this point, which is disappointing because I thought 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:49.920 Cisco's have a big year. 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.640 I mean, he is a free agent, he's got, he's gone. 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.359 In fact, he shouldn't be on the field. Dewey should 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:56.920 be on the field. 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.440 So I mean, very well, and then an turn the 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.880 Johnson's back. He's a young player, very affordable contract. 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.400 He barely played yesterday, by the way. 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:07.600 Not much. 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.719 But I mean, would it surprise you if next year 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.400 you're starting safeties or Savage and Dewey. 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.160 No, not at all. But but Savage. Why they tried 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.600 Savage at nickel corner is the biggest mystery I've ever 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.680 seen in my entire life. But I said it all preseason. 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.480 You know, I did, I pounded, I go, he's not 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:25.600 a nickel corner. 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.400 You did, But Pete. He did play Nickel. 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.239 And green I get it, but that's not what he is. 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.680 Let me tell you. That's what he played in green Bay. 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.160 Safety in green Bay too, a lot of it. 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:40.760 By the way, the whole narrative last week going into 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.159 the game was, hey, brock Bauers is really good at 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.480 tight end, and he's closing in on a thousand yards 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.960 and could break Mike Dicker's rookie record of receiving yards 0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.840 for a tight end and all this first play from 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.879 scrimmage from their own three. 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:02.480 He got picked on that. It was real and he 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.840 did once he got picked he barely even played the 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:06.480 rest of the game. 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:07.840 You know, he came out. 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:08.720 He hurt his ankle. 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.119 Was is it? Is that why he came out or 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.919 was he he got he got picked on that play 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.400 and off he went off. That Bowers is good. 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.600 Now, how about every time he needed a first down 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:21.760 the game? 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:27.880 Tight ends do huh? 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.879 He had two drops of the easy balls. He dropped 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.240 two easy balls. He made two catches off his shoe 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.920 tops on the move that were so athletic and amazing. 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.959 I'm like, he's not a great blocker, but as far 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.920 as pass catching tight ends, he might be the best 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.960 in the league right now, but they. 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.679 Don't have I mean, Michael Meyer Mayor is the is 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.359 the the blocking tight end. 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.439 But they also have a bad quarterback. I mean that 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.520 was like you watched that game yesterday, It was like 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:03.440 a how not to on the position? My god, and 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.439 you know what, And going back to Jacksonville's quarterback and 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.679 we'll get more into that, he had clean pockets all 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:17.199 damn day. I mean none none. 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:18.640 Yeah, let's come back. 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.880 Anton gave him a little pressure. He struggled again. 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.200 Later in the game. Though early in the game he 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.080 was okay. But later in the game, you're rady gave 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.800 up some pressures. But for the most part, and by 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.960 the way, the guy who went in at left tackle 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:32.560 wasn't bad. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:38.159 Van Lannon has shown himself valuable and played well. 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.840 Can he play guard? 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It's Jaguars Happy 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:20.760 Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:25.840 Yeah, he's done a good job that once again are 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.159 gonna take him away. And I missed him early. We 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.600 had the one misconnection on the hold and then he 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.240 made a couple of great plays late. So always gonna 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.919 keep fighting. He's his own biggest critic and so am I, 0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.440 so we fit well together. But I think he had like, 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.040 you know, ten ten or some catches probably for one 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:42.960 hundred something yards. 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:43.800 So he did his. 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.160 Part and we got to continue to give him the ball. 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.280 It's Mac Jones Jaguars quarterback twenty five of thirty nine 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.240 through the air to forty seven a touchdown, No picks 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.560 from Mac Jones one hundred and thirty two of those 0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.440 yards to Brian Thomas Junior. Welcome back. It's Jaguars are 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.960 presented by Jet Home Loans from the Hyundai Studios. If 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.160 you're looking for the MVP of the truck game. Better 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.400 check out the twenty twenty four to Ford F one fifty, 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.840 loaded with impressive capability and game changing tech. You can 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.680 dominate work play and everything in between. Test drive and 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.800 F one fifty at your local four dealer. Proud partner 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.040 of the Jacksonville Jaguars JP Shadick, Tony Viselli, Pete Prisco, 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:29.280 tintinex LAM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. The bright spot 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.960 of the Jags offense yesterday, of course, Brian Thomas Junior. 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.040 And there was some left out there. The drop ball 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.600 they had the holding call on with negated it anyway, 0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.640 the double move thrown out of bounds. I mean he 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.440 was opened between the safety and corner there. Mac just 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.520 missed him. But uh, you say it every week, Pete, 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:47.840 this guy's a star in the making. 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:53.000 He's fantastic and only the tip of the iceberg. They 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:57.760 have their guy. You know, all the good offenses love 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.680 to have that guy because it creates so much on 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.240 the other side. You know, you look what Chase does, 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.920 and Chase is fantastic and Burrows great, don't get me wrong, 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.560 But with Higgins over there, I mean it opens up 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.320 Higgins in one on one situations, and I think that's 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.080 what Thomas is going to do going forward. 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.200 I love his game, I love his competitiveness. 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.600 He does get a little frustrated when the past doesn't 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.440 come as well. Yeah right, or or or on that 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.160 one on the sidelines. His body language after that throw 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.440 wasn't great. But but you gotta love it for a 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.160 young player, and I think he's fantastic. And that is 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.760 one player who's going to be a star. And I 0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:37.240 don't think there's any doubt about it. 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.320 Pete, have you watched every top receiver in this league? 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.760 Yeah, you're right. Oh, you're right, you're right. 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.600 But he's good to that. You didn't think of your rookie, 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.520 would he does? 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.840 I think it's just I think it's an eight. 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.280 It comes with the position. 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:55.320 Yeah, I mean, tell me one alpha dog that when 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.840 he doesn't get the ball or isn't thrown right, that 0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.200 gives you like warm and fuzzies afterwards. 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.280 Like I always used to say. And I love him 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.200 to death, and he's one of the best receiver coaches 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.960 in the league. If Keenan had three for twenty eight 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.959 and you won, he was not nearly as happy as 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.520 he was when he had eight thirty two. I'm telling you, and. 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.760 John O'shaw will back it up for me. And don't 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:18.600 get me wrong, he love. 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.120 I'm talking about like a day after, not right after 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.200 the game, but a day later. 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.120 Come on, Tony, that's he's just a receiver in him. 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.080 First of all, Keenan was never covered his whole career. 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:30.640 He was always open. 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:36.080 Ask It's so great. It's so great to watch him 0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.480 now though, Like yesterday, Jefferson had a touchdown and got 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:44.240 an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for celebration, and I watched Keenan 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.640 go over there and give him like the old man lecture. 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:51.360 Come on, Keenan. But as it is, I'm with you. 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.200 Every receiver in the league. I don't care who they are. 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.360 They want the ball and they cry about not getting 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:56.680 the ball. 0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.120 What's what's Brian Thomas's Ian Thomas Junior's ceiling. 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:09.040 Pete right there with Chase and Jefferson right below him. 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:14.240 I think right there because those two are in there, 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:19.600 they're in special, special, special category. He's right right below them. 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.800 I think it has it Theyn't get me wrong. With 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:26.560 hard work and better offense and a better quarterback play, 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.600 he can be there. But right now I think his 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.520 ceiling is right below that, which is special. 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.320 By the way, what I am interested to see because 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.600 my takeaway those other guys is that they. 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.200 Are hard workers too. 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.000 And I'm not saying I'm not saying Brian Thomas Junior 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:49.920 is it. But the next test for him is between 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.840 year one and year two, does he go do the 0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:59.240 work to be a great player, Because we've seen a 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:03.320 lot of guys do it for one year, but the 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.520 really good ones and the great ones do a year 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:07.200 in and year out. 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.520 Well, that's in the next step. Tony is now that 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:14.080 everybody knows he's that guy. How do you handle the 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.240 double how do you handle the physical play? 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.000 How do you handle over. 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.959 The top safeties and getting mugged at the line of scrimping? 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.800 That's all the great ones learned to handle it. The 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.800 ones that fall off are the ones that flash, don't 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.240 put the work in and never learn how to handle it. 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.360 And so you're right to that degree. 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.400 And now when you're an alpha receiver, you're gonna get 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.280 all the extra attention and you got to learn how 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.960 to handle it. And and from everything I heard, and 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:43.719 this is the second hand story I was told from 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:48.120 miss days at LSU. Neighbors was the worker Thomas wasn't. 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.720 When he first got there, they were very good friends. 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.479 They looked around. He said, hey, if he's getting all 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.320 attention and catching all those passes and doing what he's doing, 0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.840 I better get my butt doing the same exact thing. 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.719 And he did, and that's why he got better and 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:02.720 better and better. 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.640 Yeah, I mean, I don't know Brian well enough. 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:10.320 I mean, he's obviously just the rookie. But there's nothing 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.399 that I have seen that would make me think he's 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.839 not going to be a worker and do what it thinks. 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.759 It's just that's the next step, that's the evolution for 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.840 him as a NFL player, to build on this tremendous 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.399 franchise wrecker setting rookie year. 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.080 I mean he's been You redrafted the draft right now, 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:33.080 and wide receivers went in order. You still might take 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:37.000 Neighbors ahead of him. You're not taking Marvin Harrison over him. 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.800 You're not taking Rome with Dounsday over him. 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.879 No, he would be the first or second receiver off 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:43.200 the board. 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.480 Correct, correct, which is by the way I actually the 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.200 way I had it ranked was Neighbors. I like Thomas second, 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.160 and I didn't love Harrison. You remember that because I 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.160 didn't think he ran that well, and I don't think 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.600 he's as sudden as these guys. These guys are sudden. 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.360 Brian Thomas is sudden when he gets that, when he 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.040 gets the ball in his hands, he's going, He's going, man, 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:05.680 that's going. Well. 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.799 He has an extra gear that, yeah, very few have. 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.000 Can we uh? Can we get back to the quarterback play? Yesterday? 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.279 I was to go upstairs. Where are you upstairs or 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.880 you downstairs at your house? I'm downstairs, Okay, go upstairs, 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.520 and you should make or go wherever the kitchen is 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.520 and make a sandwich, because that's what your trade that 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:25.200 you were going to get. 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.000 You were going to make a trade for mac Jones 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:27.480 a couple. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:27.799 Of weeks ago. 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:32.759 I don't know what you want to put it between it? 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:33.239 What do you got? 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.160 I got any turkey or roast beef or something? 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.879 Come on, I think that's still one of the great 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.239 things about was it two months ago? 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:51.280 The season at the beginning of the seasons. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.880 Just refreshed for everybody. What did you say? 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.719 I'm not gonna repeat it because I was wrong, but I. 0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.799 Bring that up every Sunday when we're sitting in our 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:57.239 green room. 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:02.000 I bring up with you. Everybody starts, well. 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.799 I hope you bring up after that. You know you're 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:04.760 will Lemis take. 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:06.919 Oh, I'll believe me. I get non stop for that, 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.880 and deservedly so. And but again mac Jones. 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.280 I just thought he was better. Pete. 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.720 I don't sometimes I don't know what he's doing. 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.640 He he leaves clean pockets too much. And you know 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.520 what the biggest thing that jumps out of me, Pete 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.799 when there's no pressure, even he doesn't go through his 0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.239 whole progression, he like. 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:33.759 He throws it into the dirt at the foot of 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.600 the guy. He goes to his first like he never 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:37.920 And I'll give you one. And you probably saw this. 0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.560 He threw one got to the right. I can't remember 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.520 who it was, but he had Strange. If he comes 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.680 back off his progression, I think he bailed on the play. 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.719 But he comes back he has Strange wide open on 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.160 it and Strange has his hand up. Do you remember 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:54.160 that one down the sideline. It's a touchdown. But he 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.480 never goes there. He stays on his first progression, or 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.359 he bails. It's it's that simple. And when he does bail, 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.040 it's you know, the only time he really made a 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.640 play when he bailed was late in the game when 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.520 he kept his head up and threw that one down there. 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.240 You know, Yeah, that was a good play. But everything 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.839 is it's herky jerky. Is that the I mean, there's 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.160 nothing smooth about it, you know what it is. 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:19.640 Peter's feet are all over the place. 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:23.880 Bad bad, It's almost like and I thought the protection 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.560 was pretty good on Sunday. It was fine. 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.680 It was NFL. It was fine. It's gonna be I mean, 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.400 it's gonna be muddied at times. 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.279 But and I had thought Pete and I don't know, 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.799 maybe this is a result of you know, the. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:45.640 End in New England. But Matt Jones is not a 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:49.080 top level athlete. Like he's not. He's a pocket quarterback. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.920 And I thought he would be a guy who'd sit 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:56.360 in the pocket, work the pocket. 0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:00.239 And you know, and make throws down feel and he's not. 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.160 He gets out of there way quicker than. 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.359 And then he puts a lot of passes that aren't 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:10.280 in play. Yeah, I mean, give a guy a chance, 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.640 you know, he doesn't give him chances. Look, let's be real, 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:19.279 he's not the difference between him and Bethard ain't that much. 0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.040 Not and you know, as a Jacksonville kid, you'd like to. 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:24.800 See him succeed. 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.560 But I'm rooting hard for him. 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.120 He's a backup quarterback in the national football they got. 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:29.799 I think that's right. 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.520 I mean, I think the difference between him and Bethro 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:34.799 I think Bethann's better at going through progressions. 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.760 Bethri just doesn't have the arm right. 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:42.160 Strength and and Mac is a better arm than Bethor, 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.040 but doesn't. 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.839 Go through the progression like Bethrin does. 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.040 I mean, there were times where you sit there and 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.120 you go, I don't know what he's why he's get leaving. 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.480 Just stay there, stay there, stay there. They don't and 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.520 and look, you can get be guilty of holding the 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:57.280 ball too. 0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.399 Long and staying there. He didn't even any close to that. 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:01.800 He's out of there right away. 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.040 And it's not like, okay, if you if you were 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.160 Jayden Daniels and you were getting out of there, that's one. 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.600 That's another story. Because you can move with Lamar Jackson. 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.960 He can't move, like you said, what are you moving to? 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.240 Even Trevor. Trevor's an athlete. 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.440 He can run and do stuff, and Trevor leaves pockets 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:17.160 too soon too. 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:22.600 I agree, but I had thought coming into this season. Okay, 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.360 if Mack has to play, he's gonna be more of 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:25.680 a pocket passers. 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:25.920 And hang in there you go. 0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.680 You know, you gotta give him some time, but he's 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.719 gonna work the pocket and he just doesn't. 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.160 Yeah, I don't think he's Sam Donald or Baker Mayfield 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:33.880 two point up. 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.279 Let's come back in a moment thing. 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.040 Bete what a year ago? Two years ago? 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.800 No, everyone thought Sam Donald was nothing but a backup, 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.000 and now he's someone's gonna pay him fifty million bucks. 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.479 A true, Yeah, it's true. I don't think he's getting 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:51.080 fifty million. 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:52.680 Okay, he's get forty. 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.120 He'll get he'll get what Baker got thirty five ish. 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.200 That's not a jump change, that's for sure. Let's come back. 0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:04.200 Let's get into the penalties yesterday. We'll get to these 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.560 guys when we come back. This is what we have 0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.919 to deal with each and every Monday is Jaguars Happy 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:20.840 Hour presented by Jet Home Loans Welcome Back, JP Shadwick, 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.720 Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet 0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.879 Hoolme Loans ten Tenxlam Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube Glad 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.720 you're with us after a Jaguars lost to the Raiders 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.600 nineteen fourteen ugly football game. Next week, though, it's the 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.520 jaguars final home game of the twenty twenty four regular season, 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.000 join us Sunday for the fan appreciation game when the 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.480 Jaguars take on the Tennessee Titans and try to sweep 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.080 the season series. Walk in your seats for the divisional 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.680 matchup at Jaguars dot com slash tickets. That'd be a 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:57.080 nice stocking stuffer for Sanna to purchase. Jags issues. There 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:02.120 are many right next to the coal. There's some lumps 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:06.640 of coal over this place right now. Unfortunately, Jags issues 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.440 yesterday they were many. But I mean, I'm sitting here, Pete, 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.640 and I'm looking at this sequence of penalties. First off, 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:15.880 Eric Armstead was off side twice in a row. They 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.799 were both declined because of the long passes on him. 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:23.040 And then in the second quarter Las Vegas back to 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:27.000 back fall starts moves him back and then the Jaguars 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.640 have back to back off side from heinz Allen and 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.160 Trayvon Walker. They could have had more than that. What 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:32.920 in the world. 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.880 Happened bad football for both teams and bad teams. 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.400 That's what happened. When you're a bad team, you do 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:39.399 stuff like that. 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.160 I mean, Pete, I. 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.960 Said during the broadcast, because Frank and Jeff and I 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.000 were look at each other up to that little sequence, 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.879 and I just said, this is what you get when 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.319 you have two teams with double digit losses playing each other. 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:56.879 It kind of is what it is. 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.080 Here's the other part of it. 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.360 It what you were talking about, situational and coaching and everything. 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:09.840 What happened at the two minute warning? Do you remember 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.080 the time out at the two minute warning? 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:13.759 Yeah? 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:17.839 The first sat The first I think was the clock 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.080 because I don't think they were going to run out 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:21.600 of play clock. 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.440 Were they because it was looked like it was synced. 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.000 I think it was the second behind, or like three 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.160 quarters of the second behind, So I think it would have. 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:33.680 See on the broadcast they said it wouldn't. 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.080 Really it was really close, Pete, like really really close, 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:41.600 And so I think that. 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:50.200 Doug just, I mean, again, not great the way you 0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.880 handle that. Why do you let it go down like 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.360 that even in that situation. I mean, you're clearly trying 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.839 to get that playoff before the two minute warning. So 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.839 why why allowed to even get close to that? 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.400 I mean, it's just they're just you could there's a 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:04.399 laundry list of. 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.120 Stuff every week that you can look at, the busts 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:11.799 in the secondary, the dumb penalties, the hold on the 0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.560 fourth on the fourth down run or the third was that? Yeah, 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.680 the fourth down run? Did you did you think he 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.280 held him? He grabbed a little bit, maybe, but that 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:20.520 that's sometimes that one's not. 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:25.160 Called his hands are outside the body right under. So 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.239 by the rule of the law, the letter of the law, 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.439 I should say that's a penalty. And I will say 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:35.400 this year, Pete, they are calling holding much tighter than 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:36.240 they have in the past. 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.279 Yeah. But and in reality was it didn't have a 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.080 lot to do with that run. I didn't think that 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:42.839 guy wasn't gonna get there anyways. 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.799 I didn't find I thought it was a ticki tack call. 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.120 But by the letter of the law, you can't have 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:48.800 your hands outside. 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.839 But look at the bright side, it set the set 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.080 the stage for the checkdown on fourth and twenty or 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:53.800 whatever it. 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.840 Was, fourth and eleven. 0:43:54.920 --> 0:44:02.640 Fourth, What are you doing here here, Johnson? Jaronis, go 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.080 get it Darren's Johnson. Go get it, Go get yourself 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:06.520 eleven yards. 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:07.960 But that was enough. Now. 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.320 Doug said in his pressure today that they dropped soft coverage, 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:16.640 which I would agree watching it. However, there wasn't immediate 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.239 pressure where he had to get there, like you have 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.719 to let guys work and try to influence them with 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:21.120 your eyes. 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:21.560 Let it. 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.440 If he had let him work, he'd had something in 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:24.200 the middle. 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.000 On the back I thought on the backside he could 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.880 have stuck it in the Parker Washington, or he didn't 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.520 go there. I think it was Brenton Strange was about 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.360 eight yards right over the middle, and I give Brenton 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.839 fifty to fifty chance. You know he could run through 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.720 one tackle to get to the eleven. 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.280 Well, of all the choices he made, that's the worst 0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:42.680 one he made. 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.160 It he made the most difficult. I would rather have 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.080 him push the ball down the field and if it's intercepted, 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.640 it's intercepted. 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.719 It I agree. I'm behind you. I thought it was 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:54.480 a terrible play. 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:55.760 I did not understand. 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.160 It wasn't rush, it wasn't like pressure in his face, 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.200 like he just he I just looked and it's like, okay, 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:01.600 it's not there. 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.800 Chuck down. I'm like, whoa, it's fourth and eleven. The 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.319 game is in the line. You can't do that. I mean, 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.040 if you're gonna do that, throw it the brain the 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:09.560 strange in the middle of field and give him a 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.000 chance to run over one person to get eleven yards. 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.040 It would have been interesting had they not had the 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.520 holding penalty from there though. Sure, yes, I think the 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.960 ball would have come down from from above. They let 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:22.160 him go. Now, let them. 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.960 Got you talked about. 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:31.000 I mean, here's the reality of this game. They scored 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.399 on the open drive. Seven No, not the opening drive. 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.239 They scored? When did they? They did not? 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:36.719 One? 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:38.480 They scored on the short field. 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.839 After the Jaguars scored on the short field the punt 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.200 return and the hit out of bounds started at twenty 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:50.920 nine yard Say it again that late first quarter, minute 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.480 thirty to go in the first quarter. 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.840 Yeah, so they scored that touchdown late first quarter on 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:57.640 a short field. They got the ball at the thirty 0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:03.480 five after the penalty and the return, and so besides that, 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.080 the only other points they got was a busted coverage. 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.480 Correct, that's it. 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:16.520 And so I get that they're saying, you know, yes, 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:17.080 I would. 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.279 Have it, have been interesting to see if they didn't 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.560 get that holding penalty and got the first down, what 0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:23.280 would have happened. 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:25.759 But if you looked at the course of the game, 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:27.879 they had not moved the ball at all. 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.439 And that was a terrible play by Jones on that play. 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.440 I don't know what he was doing. He had a 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:38.400 rough go of it. But and you know that was 0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:40.120 he didn't even have to make a move, He just 0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:41.319 ran by him. 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:42.719 It was a bust of coverage. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.560 I mean, Jack Jones is playing some sort of underneath 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:47.520 zone with no help over the top. 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:52.480 Now, he was fifteen yards the one he dropped. He 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:53.759 made a good move on that one. 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:55.480 Yeah, I mean he just ran by him and that 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:57.040 was man coverage. He just beat him. 0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:58.560 Hey, guys, I'm not. 0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:01.040 Sure why you're putting Jack Jones man to man against 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:02.960 too little. 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.720 Yeah, hey, let's come back. One hour down, one hour 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.520 to go. But addics fan questions coming up in just 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.000 a little bit after Jaguars lost to the Raiders. This 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.400 is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.319 We did have some injuries at the end of the 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.080 season last year. I know Trevor wasn't completely you know, 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.319 one hundred percent towards the end of the season last year. 0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.440 Obviously he's out this year, missing more weapons on offense, 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.840 you know, and so it's just a it's it's a 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.880 tough situation to be in. But at the same time, listen, 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.200 I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna make you know, 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:52.239 excuses for it. 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.560 And you know, we we we. 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:55.600 Are who we are and in. 0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:01.160 Right now we're just haven't and and really for you know, 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.880 this season, we haven't been consistent enough in our play, 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.719 you know, on the field, and so we all take 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:13.040 responsibility and it's something we got to look hard at 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:14.479 and try to try to fix. 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.000 Head coach Doug Peterson Today the full press conference available 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.799 at Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube. Welcome Back Hour 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:26.520 two of Jaguars Half Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.200 Before the game, after the game, and during the game. 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.880 We're on ten toon xcel Am, Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.960 After a Jaguars lost to the Raiders nineteen to fourteen 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:41.800 and ugly football game all around, the Jags offense struggled again, 0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.080 had two touchdowns, one on a short field, one on 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.640 a blown coverage didn't do anything else really the rest 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.000 of the day to giveaways in the first half, put 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.680 the ball on the deck twice. The Jags defense allowed 0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:56.080 big plays to the Raiders, including tight end Brock Powers 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.759 on the first play of the game on defense and 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.120 just continued throughout the day five plays all out of 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.440 seventeen or more yards and yesterday's game and the Raiders 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.520 snapped a ten game losing skid with a winner with 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.520 the Jaguars, who are now three and twelve, two games 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.440 to go home against the Titans, rode against the Colts, 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.160 and a chance to sweep the season series against both 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.279 of those teams. With the Jaguars, those are two of 0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:21.799 the three wins this year, and that's where we are. 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:27.640 JP Shadwick, Tony Wasiscelli, Pete Prisco. It's Christmas week. Merry Christmas, guys, 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:28.400 how are. 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.880 You Merry Christmas? Merry Christmas. 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.880 You know you talked about those two games coming up, 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:34.759 that those are two of the three wins we have. 0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:39.560 But you're gonna see different teams, and we faced the 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:42.160 Titans are gonna have Mason Rudolph. They're much more effective 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:47.120 offensively even without Pete's franchise quarterback. 0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.000 They really are, because the rating is the same and 0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:50.680 their turnovers are the same, and he won. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.680 That good yesterday. That team stinks. 0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.120 Okay, I think you're better. I'd rather let me put 0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:56.560 it this way. 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:58.800 You're asking me who I'd rather face this week, and 0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:00.120 rather face Will Levis, and. 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.160 Maybe he should play because the Jaguars need to lose 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:03.920 that game. 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:06.080 Is playing. 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.680 No, I'm saying that that's you'd rather face Mason Rudolph 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:10.719 to lose the game. 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:14.520 Right, Yeah, that's all if you are losing. Yeah, and 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:21.520 then a circle speed, get me spin it like a 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:22.480 top heat right there. 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.160 And then the Colts have Anthony Richardson as a quarterback. 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:28.960 We did not face him the first time, so there's 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.120 a run threat with him. They're not a passing team 0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.200 with him back there, but they run the ball effectively, 0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.839 and and Jonathan Taylor is a really good back. 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.920 When the Colts look back on the season, if they 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:42.440 don't make the playoffs, they're going to look back on 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.200 that game they lost to Jacksonville and say, oh, no, 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.080 how the hell did that happen? Because there they'd be 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.839 smack dab. In fact, I think if they won that game, 0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:51.520 they'd be the they'd be the final team in the 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:52.680 playoffs right now, they. 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:53.440 Can still get in. 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:54.520 They could still get in. 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.880 They didn't help their own destiny. If they won that game. 0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:02.120 Correct and and or they would control their own destiny. 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.000 Johnathan Deller didn't drop the ball, look. 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:08.240 Back and dropping of the ball crossing the bowl and denver, 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.520 they would have won that game. They control their own 0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.680 destiny as well. So they're still in it. We'll see 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:14.600 after this week. Who do the Colts have this week? 0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.040 They play at the Giants. 0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:23.040 Yeah, so they're going to be Is there any way 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:24.839 they can get eliminated with the win this week? 0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:25.840 Pete? 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:31.720 I think if the Broncos win, they get eliminated because 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.879 they would have this. Wait, what's the Broncos record. 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.319 Broncos are nine and six, so they're two games up 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:37.960 on them. 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:39.200 Yeah, that's right. 0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:42.719 Yeah, so if the Broncos win, they're eliminated. 0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:43.359 That's right. 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:47.320 And the Broncos play the Bengals not an easy game. 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.160 Well, correct, and the Bengals are still alive by the way, yep, 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.520 the Bengals have a checklist of things they need to happen. 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:56.640 If the Bengals beat the Broncos and the Colts lose 0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.560 one more and the Dolphins lose one more and the 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.640 Bengals win the last week and the Chiefs beat the Broncos, 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.440 then there they win that they get in the playoffs. Nobody, 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:08.120 Let's put this way. You'd rather have the Broncos in 0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:09.839 the playoffs and the Bengals in the playoffs. If you're 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.239 a DAFC team, you. 0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.880 Don't want to play Joe Burrow and Jamorrow, Chase and 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:19.839 t and that group and that Chase Brown's playing out 0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:20.120 of his. 0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:20.799 Mind right now. 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.640 What about the Chargers? Peat Chargers are nine and six. 0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:27.200 What if they lose out? I mean, they're not guaranteed. 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:30.080 Yeah right, I mean, look, there's a bunch of possibilities, 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.520 but I do think that that the you know, look, 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.280 if Denver loses two, here's the thing about the Bengals 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.239 this week, they almost have to root for the Steelers 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:42.600 because if the Chiefs beat the Steelers, they clinched the 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:45.359 number one seed and they won't play people the last 0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:46.680 week of the season against Denver. 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.640 Yeah, you need That's exactly right. You need Pittsford to 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:52.680 win if you're if you're a Bengals. 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:56.120 Fan, right and so and. 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.080 And same with the Colts. The Colts want the Steelers 0:52:58.080 --> 0:52:58.319 to win. 0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:05.319 Correct, it's in me wild, but yeah, I guess my 0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:08.640 bigger point is different teams than we faced earlier in 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.280 the season, just because of the quarterback situation on both 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:13.000 for both teams. 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.520 Yeah, and and they seem to be like the Titans 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:18.040 seemed to be going off the cliff too. 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:19.040 I mean that game. 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:20.880 I don't know, you didn't you see the final score 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.440 that game was thirty to seven at one point? Yeah, 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:25.600 I mean. 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.760 It just they looked awful. 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:32.040 They look lifeless. Yeah, garbage time stuff. It was never 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.239 really a threat. I didn't think. But you know how, 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.319 sometimes the team gets hot and they start coming back 0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.520 and things happened. But Jonathan Taylor ran for over two 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.319 hundred yards and three touchdowns. He made up for No, 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:48.640 he didn't, No, he didn't. 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:51.640 Time now for oh go ahead, Pete. 0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:53.279 Sorry, No, I was gonna say. We got to talk 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:54.600 a little bit about the defense too. 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.120 Yeah, in Jacksonville, lead us, Pete, where do you want 0:53:58.160 --> 0:53:58.760 to go to the defense? 0:53:58.760 --> 0:53:59.680 I got a lot of thoughts. 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.719 I'll tell you. Well, let's let's make this keeping it real. 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:11.600 Presented by Nobody and Nobody, uh still Week seventeen, Nobody defense. 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:13.640 Let's keep it real. 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.440 What do he got, Pete, Well, I will say that 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:23.960 I thought the rookie tackle made some plays. Yes, I 0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:25.880 thought he made some plays. He got some pushed in 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.920 the pocket, showed up and I gets pushed around a 0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:28.799 little bit in the run game. 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:33.200 Maybe he made some nice plays in the run game too. 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:34.960 The ones right at him. He gets pushed back. Sometimes 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:36.879 he gets blown off the ball. But but you're right, 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:38.359 he made some plays in the run game. I thought 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:39.799 he made some plays in the passing game. 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:46.759 Yeah, sack three tackles, sack two tackles for loss pass defense, and. 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.080 I think he's going to be really good. 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.840 I get my biggest disappointment of this of this defense, 0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:58.520 I didn't think either end impacted the game at all. 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:01.439 And that's not a eight group of tackles. I mean 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:04.759 they're good. Colt Miller is a pretty good player. But 0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:06.759 the other guy on the other side of the rookie. 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.840 And I thought, I watching the tape of the Raiders, 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:14.880 I'm like, okay, Josh and Trey von Agram Big Days 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.760 did not and they did not. That was the biggest 0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:23.080 disappointment for me. Yeah, everything else nothing surprised me. 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:24.960 Well, Armstead got a sack while he was lined up 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:26.640 as an inside that. 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:27.600 Yeah, how about that? 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:28.839 Yeah? 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.760 So did you like what the rookie did to Tony? 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.279 Yeah? I thought it was his best game of the year. 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:37.240 Yeah. He actually was getting some power moves and stuff 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.920 and he lifted guys off. I think he's got a chance. 0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.240 Hamilton the last two weeks has actually looked better. 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.040 Yeah. 0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:49.800 How about the other young guy? Myles Cole. 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.719 Made a couple of plays. You know, made a play 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.439 where he beat the tight end on the one run 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:56.359 play that. 0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.719 Was beat brought Bowers on the inside that was played. 0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.360 By him, and then he beat Miller on a rush 0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:03.720 wants to get a hurry. 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.080 Remember when he came around the corner. 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.960 He called the hold on it. It was a phantom 0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.120 hold in my opinion, I don't. 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:10.759 Think it was a hold either, but he beat him. 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:15.480 But again, you know some of those Here's the thing, 0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:19.600 when you look at that defensive line. If you have 0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.439 a four man front next year, which is probably gonna 0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:23.920 have because most people do. But if you have a 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:32.919 four man front Alan Walker Smith and a draft pick, 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.520 because I personally think if we get asked this question 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:40.439 a lot, who they should draft, what they should draft, 0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.960 and I know people like the pretty and Travis Hunter 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:47.480 and that guy and this guy me. I would take 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.680 the kid from Michigan and put him right there in 0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:52.400 the middle of that line and say, I have my 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:54.880 four now, and now I can do so many different 0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:58.359 things because I have four of them, four guys, four 0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:02.520 guys who could do different things. And that'll give me 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:04.879 my big guys up front, and now I can do 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.480 different things and find guys in the back end and 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.360 find another corner, because I. 0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:10.880 Think that changes the way you play. 0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.640 If you have four guys who are good upfront, a 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:17.600 it's hard to double anybody, and I think that that 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:19.840 changes the way you play on defense. It's the old 0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:21.800 Jimmy Johnson thing. If you have four guys who can rush, 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:24.680 push the pocket, or four guys who were good getting 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.520 after the quarterback, you don't need to be great on 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:28.120 the back end. 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.720 Well, here's a couple of before we get to the draft. 0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:36.720 I mean, if you're playing, let's assume you're four to three. 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.360 First thing I'm doing is talking to Eric Armstead saying 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.000 you were playing defensive tackle in sub. 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:44.720 Next year, that's the one as a backup. 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:49.320 Yeah, a rotational player, Okay, I would go get another speed. 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:53.400 I think I would have Josh Allen Heinz Allen lose 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.480 get back to the way he was last year. 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.240 I think we go. I would also. 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.280 Find another speed rusher, more speed on the outside, I 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:05.320 would too, And the third down I'd kick Trayvon. I 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.200 would play Tradeon inside and outside. 0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:09.720 Well, we've been pushing that for for how long now? 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:10.080 Yep? 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:16.840 And then as far as the draft, here's my question 0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:21.880 for you, Pete. Wherever we're picking the kid from Michigan 0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:22.880 fifty five. 0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.560 And I know what his name is, Mason Graham. 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:29.520 Mason Graham and Travis Hunter on the board. Who you 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:33.240 picking Graham? 0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:36.320 Me, I'm taking Graham. I think you can find a corner. 0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:38.080 I think you could find a receiver whatever you want 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:40.600 to play him at. You can find those guys. Find 0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:43.880 the guys who can impact the game on your defensive 0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.480 and offensive line are so hard to find. 0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:47.840 Can he rush the passer? 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:48.479 Yes? 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:54.520 Yes, high school wrestler is it. 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.240 He's relentless. He's relentless. 0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.840 He would bring an at you know. 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:04.040 Yeah. I love guys that show emotion everything. That's one 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:09.880 thing I noticed on Sunday. Guys make plays and nobody 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:17.000 gives them anything. There's no jumping around, there's no emotion 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:21.080 at all. They're the most I think I've ever seen 0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:25.720 in my life. There's nothing. You're a rookie. That's his 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.720 first sack, right that that that was. 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:32.200 His second second. 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.520 But go celebrate it, jump up and down, show some emotion. 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:41.840 Am I wrong? You would think the veterans would like 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.160 be so thrilled to see a young kid getting a 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:48.400 sack in a game like that. There was nothing, zero made. 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:50.360 He did a nice little shimmy little dance. 0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:51.120 Yeah he did. 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:55.080 But you know what I mean. 0:59:55.640 --> 1:00:00.120 And and you know there's over the top celebrations and 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:03.520 celebrating a tackle when a guy gets eighteen yards and 1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:06.240 standing up when your team's down, you know, twenty eight 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:09.840 to nothing. But when he got made that play, the 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:15.280 game was close, big play early. Go celebrate him, jump around, 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:15.720 you know. 1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:19.200 Yeah, it's by the way, the same for the Armstead 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:19.720 one too. 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.880 Yes, talk smack to the other team, talk smack to 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:28.840 the other offensive lineman. There's nothing. It's robotic, it's lifeless. 1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:33.280 It just it looks checked out. That's what it looked like. 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:36.280 I remember the seventeen team and all those sacks. I 1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:38.800 mean those guys would celebrate just walking on the field. 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.400 I mean, they probably went above and beyond right. 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:43.040 But they deserved it. They were that good. 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:46.000 They were like, you know what it is he it 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:47.520 does look like anyone's having fun. 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.680 No fun. No. 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:53.240 The two things that jump out of me this overall 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:57.040 this year the urgency at the start of games, like 1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:59.880 just the passionate urgency coming out and having fun. 1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:02.920 And it's a hard game and it's hard to have 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:04.600 fun clear three and twelve. I get that. 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:07.800 But you got to create your own emotion, your own 1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:11.760 energy as a player. And when guys make plays, you 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:14.200 gotta enjoy it. You got to enjoy the big plays, 1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:16.200 the exciting stuff and celebrate. 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:19.240 Did you notice that too? 1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:20.400 Am I the only one that notice? 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:22.160 I've noticed it all year? 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:25.680 Yeah, I just they don't. There's no jumping around and 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:31.520 and and team celebrations and enjoying each other and and 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.880 you know, talking smack and it just looks lifeless to me. 1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:38.600 And I hate that. I can't stand that. I the 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:41.360 game is an emotional game. You have to show it. 1:01:41.720 --> 1:01:44.800 And a guy makes a play, go go rally to him. 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:47.400 You know, it's just it's it's to me, it's it's 1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:48.240 a bad look. 1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:54.000 Here you have it, keeping it real, presented by nobody 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:58.800 back in a moment. Oh year, Oh here, I don't. 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:00.600 There's a want. 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:02.000 Where's the sales department? 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:02.760 I don't know. 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:08.560 Holiday, I guess well the fanatics fan questions when we 1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:20.160 come back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by mister Chubby's Wings. 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:28.160 Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shaddick, Tony Boselli, 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:31.480 and Pete Priscoe after a Jaguars lost to the Las 1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:38.560 Vegas Raiders nineteen fourteen. Jaguars three and twelve, currently third 1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:41.880 in the projected draft order for twenty twenty five according 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:47.600 to tankathon dot com. If you're into that, they this 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:52.439 particular website works to strength the schedule out the rest 1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:55.680 of the season. And so the Jaguars currently third in 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:58.520 their draft order, Giants and Patriots ahead of them, Titans, 1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:02.920 Brown's Raiders all at three and twelve, and then the Panthers, Jets, Bears, 1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:06.440 and Saints. That's a lot to look forward to in 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:10.560 the offseason. We so this is our draft talk. We 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.320 always drop talk a little draft just to appease Pete 1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:18.240 in this show, and this checking the box before Christmas. 1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:20.120 JP and Pete would be safe to say. 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:28.560 If we lose out, we need the Patriots to lose 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:31.240 one game to get to the two spot. 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:33.960 We need the Giants to lose two games to get 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:35.760 to the one spot. That packered. 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:37.840 I don't know what the Strangth schedules for the Giants, 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:38.800 but I'm assuming that's what. 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:43.080 Well, and okay, the Giants have the Colts and then 1:03:43.160 --> 1:03:46.080 the Eagles on the road. Now, well, the Eagles need 1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:49.080 the game, probably because for the one seed. Try to 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:52.200 get the one seed after what happened yesterday, So so. 1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:55.040 The Giants are going to lose two games probably. 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:57.960 I don't have but Pete, I don't think the Eagles 1:03:57.960 --> 1:04:03.080 can get the one seed if the Lions win next 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:07.920 week because didn't the the. 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:09.040 Vikings the last game the season, So could end up 1:04:09.040 --> 1:04:10.919 that the winner of that game gets the one seed. 1:04:11.160 --> 1:04:13.400 That my Sunday night football game that might be the 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:14.280 last game of the season. 1:04:14.280 --> 1:04:16.200 I guess My point is, but the Eagles will be 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:17.760 out of it regardless is my point? 1:04:18.120 --> 1:04:21.440 It could be, yes, but like if Minnesota lost to 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:24.920 green Bay this week and green Bay still chant, that 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:28.080 was still chance. But yeah, but if either way the 1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:30.880 Giants probably aren't gonna Giants are playing backups as it 1:04:30.920 --> 1:04:33.160 is now, They're probably not gonna beat the backup Eagles, 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:35.920 so they're probably gonna lose too. Straight, they'll have the 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:39.880 number one pick, the first overall pick. Then the Patriots play, 1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:43.840 I mean, they play the Chargers this week at home, 1:04:44.080 --> 1:04:50.080 and they close out with who Buffalo? 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:52.520 He played Buffalo? 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:55.680 They played playing again the last week last three ye 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:58.640 So but again. 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:00.560 Does Buffalo gonna the game? 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:05.520 Probably probably not, because if they're two behind the Chiefs now. 1:05:05.880 --> 1:05:09.320 Right, if the Chiefs, if the Chiefs win Wednesday, If 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:12.520 the Chiefs win Wednesday, Buffalo is locked in as as 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:17.640 the two yep, So if that happens, right, aren't they 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:19.680 they have how many losses they have? They have three 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:26.160 and the North winner has five five and they beat 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:27.880 the Race and they lost to the Ravens though, so 1:05:27.920 --> 1:05:31.200 it could be. But but as it probably all likelihood, 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:33.560 they won't need to win, and so New England could 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:36.680 win that last game Jacksonville loses two and they end 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:37.960 up with the number one overall pick. 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:40.320 Let's say we stay at three or. 1:05:40.240 --> 1:05:41.360 The number two overall pick. 1:05:41.520 --> 1:05:44.080 So let's say that the order states as is Okay, 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:47.480 the Giants are gonna take a quarterback. 1:05:48.720 --> 1:05:52.120 And so are the and so are the Patriots are 1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:52.880 not but. 1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:54.600 They would trade out of there, and somebody would go 1:05:54.680 --> 1:05:55.439 up to get that pick. 1:05:55.960 --> 1:05:58.000 Why would they traded the Patriots? Why wouldn't they trade 1:05:58.000 --> 1:05:58.400 with us? 1:06:00.480 --> 1:06:04.680 Oh and tell yeah they could. Yeah, you're right, Well, 1:06:04.760 --> 1:06:06.440 you know how that works. Somebody could be worried that 1:06:06.480 --> 1:06:07.960 the big you know, and the Patriots are going to 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:11.080 make a deal. You know how that works. So yeah, 1:06:11.120 --> 1:06:13.200 there'd probably be the Patriots to trade out of there, 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:15.480 and then you'd be sitting there at number three. 1:06:15.960 --> 1:06:19.720 So at number three we stay in this order, and 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:25.200 number three, most likely we'll have the best non quarterback 1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:27.080 player available to us. 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:29.520 Correct, because there's not another quarterback that somebody's going to 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:33.160 go up and get right. So your choice would probably 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:39.720 be between Hunter Graham, Graham, and I'll throw another name 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:46.600 in there, Abdul Carter from Penn State State. The pass rusher, 1:06:48.800 --> 1:06:53.040 explosive dynamic and you look at it and you say, well, 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:55.920 where would he play? Well, that goes to your old theory, Tony, 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:58.640 getting another guy that can can influence the quarterback and 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:03.160 move and Walker inside. Yeah, I still think Walker if 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:06.439 he played inside, could hold up a in the run 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:08.560 game if he played there full time, and be a 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:10.760 good pass rusher on the inside. 1:07:11.160 --> 1:07:13.040 On first and second down. I wouldn't put him with 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:14.080 a three technique though. 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:15.840 Not a three tech. But you could play him that. 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:17.919 You could play him, You could play him in there. 1:07:18.120 --> 1:07:19.760 You could make him a three hundred pounder if you 1:07:19.760 --> 1:07:20.120 wanted to. 1:07:22.320 --> 1:07:24.320 He's a big He's a big dude. 1:07:24.480 --> 1:07:27.760 That's a big frame, Tony, Oh gosh, could he not 1:07:27.920 --> 1:07:29.240 be like Kalayis Campbell? 1:07:31.880 --> 1:07:34.080 Yeah, maybe that's a fair point. I mean Clays was. 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:36.600 I mean early in Klays's career, he was much. 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:41.280 Leaner correct, And I think he could be that. And 1:07:41.280 --> 1:07:44.040 and so I mean that's one possibility. If you decided 1:07:44.080 --> 1:07:46.320 to like the speedy edge rusher more than you like 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:48.000 the interior defensive lineman, you. 1:07:47.920 --> 1:07:51.160 Could go that route too. But and then the other 1:07:51.440 --> 1:07:52.560 possibility is hunter. 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:58.440 Is he Is he a generational corner? Pete? 1:07:58.560 --> 1:08:00.760 I think I think he's a corner, and I think 1:08:00.800 --> 1:08:02.440 he's a real good one that you could use on 1:08:03.000 --> 1:08:05.680 as a weapon and offense as well. Yeah, but I 1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:06.560 think he's a corner. 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:08.200 But is he that good? 1:08:08.320 --> 1:08:12.280 Is he the you know, he's really good. He's he's 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:14.600 really good. But yeah, I mean like the kid at Michigan, 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:17.800 Will Johnson, really good corner too, really good quick. 1:08:17.960 --> 1:08:19.679 You know what makes corners really good? 1:08:20.400 --> 1:08:24.280 Pass rush past rush, right, Well, Colorado doesn't have great 1:08:24.280 --> 1:08:25.599 pass right, they have decent ones. 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:28.599 But I'm talking to the pros, Bete Oh yeah, oh yeah. 1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:31.439 Correct. We've seen a lot of really good defenses not 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:34.080 have great corners over the years, going back to nineteen 1:08:34.120 --> 1:08:36.320 eighty five Bears, it's hard pressed to find the names 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:38.559 of those two guys that played started on those teams. 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:41.720 One became a head coach, Leslie Frasier. He was one 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:44.479 of them. Mike Richardson was the other one. Weren't great. 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:48.320 The Ravens corners on those teams. Hell, Jimmy Smith abused 1:08:48.360 --> 1:08:51.160 Dwayne Starts for three hundred yards in one game. They 1:08:51.200 --> 1:08:55.080 weren't great corners. You know, you're right. Chris McCallister was 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:56.479 a pretty good player on that team though, he's a 1:08:56.479 --> 1:08:59.439 pretty good corner. But they weren't great corners. They were great, 1:08:59.640 --> 1:09:01.519 great lines on those teams though. 1:09:01.560 --> 1:09:03.040 Great great front seven. 1:09:03.760 --> 1:09:06.320 Correct, correct both of them. 1:09:06.760 --> 1:09:10.760 Time Now for the fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans gear 1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:14.880 up at fanatics dot com with all the latest JAG styles. 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:18.720 Shop now and get today's special offer. Fanatics dot com 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:23.200 officially licensed everything we put the catcall out on X. 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:27.719 Here's the best we've come up with today. Question number 1:09:27.760 --> 1:09:30.720 one at B for Brendan should do he have been 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:32.920 playing more at safety this year? Well, we've gone over 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:34.080 this already. 1:09:34.280 --> 1:09:38.519 Well, I mean you have been kind of defined this year. 1:09:38.560 --> 1:09:41.519 He was hurt for you know, two thirds of the season, 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:46.200 so he's really only been back and bump. You could 1:09:46.240 --> 1:09:48.839 argue he should have been playing more last week on defense, 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:51.599 but he had to get his legs back underneath him. 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:55.840 He had a pretty significant knee injury. And so if 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:57.960 you're asking me, now, do I think he's playing? Yes, 1:09:58.040 --> 1:09:59.840 based on what I saw yesterday, he should be the. 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:03.080 Here's the other part of that is would he have 1:10:03.160 --> 1:10:04.960 been starting if he doesn't get hurt? 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:06.200 And I say the answer to that is. 1:10:06.200 --> 1:10:09.280 No, he but he might have by now. 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:11.200 By now he would have been, But I'm saying he 1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:12.880 would not have started the season as a starter. 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:14.240 He would not have no. 1:10:16.200 --> 1:10:21.560 Next question from X earlier today at CHOB sixteen t realistically, 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:24.320 what will teams trade to the Jaguars for their draft 1:10:24.400 --> 1:10:27.360 position if they need a quarterback, like the Raiders are 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:28.519 giants just today. 1:10:28.320 --> 1:10:31.720 The company, Well, if you have the number one O 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:34.200 Wall pick, they trade a big ransom. 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:35.639 To the right. If they don't. 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:37.960 If they if they're at three, the two quarterbacks are gone. 1:10:37.960 --> 1:10:39.559 They're not getting squat douche for it. 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:42.240 Yet. 1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:42.439 Up. 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:46.840 They aren't getting trade up for Travis Hunter to three. 1:10:47.400 --> 1:10:50.720 No either, No, they aren't getting what for it? 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:52.120 Pete, what was that word he used? 1:10:52.680 --> 1:10:55.360 Squad doosh zero? Nothing? Squat dosh? 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:57.400 Was that? I'd never heard that before. 1:10:58.240 --> 1:10:59.080 You never heard of that. 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:02.320 No, my man's a big green if you know what 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:02.720 I mean. 1:11:06.160 --> 1:11:10.080 Wow, you don't remember that from One on one the 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:15.320 movie way before your time. Tony probably saw it because 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:19.840 he's a Colorado kid. It was filmed Colorado. Do you remember, Tony? 1:11:20.840 --> 1:11:23.720 I don't remember that. Who was in it? 1:11:23.960 --> 1:11:28.080 Maybe Robbie Benson was a basketball player and he went 1:11:28.120 --> 1:11:31.439 to college on a full ride and it's kind of 1:11:31.479 --> 1:11:34.479 loosely based on U. C. L A. And he gets 1:11:34.520 --> 1:11:36.880 there and they beat the daylights out of him or whatever, 1:11:36.880 --> 1:11:38.920 you know, because they want to take away scholarship. You 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:41.960 don't remember that, But Anyways, he walks into a into 1:11:42.040 --> 1:11:44.760 a party and he's like, I guess it was a party. 1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:46.720 They were doing drugs or something and they go. 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:49.360 He goes, they have straws in their noses and the 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:52.720 guy goes, ignore him. My man's a big greed, if 1:11:52.760 --> 1:11:56.280 you know what I mean. So that's like he's never 1:11:56.320 --> 1:12:00.960 been around the world. That's like JP's never been around Yeah, Pete. 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:03.759 Next question, jamp. 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:05.720 You know, it's a problem when you have to explain to. 1:12:06.120 --> 1:12:07.520 Yeah, that was a long explanation. 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:10.360 You guys are too young. You don't remember the movie. 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:14.120 Yeah, I'm the youngest of all three. Remember that. At 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:16.960 Eric M. Davenport, Pete consistently talks about this time of 1:12:17.000 --> 1:12:19.519 year being about good losses where young guys play well, 1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:22.599 because yesterday count as a good loss considering who we 1:12:22.680 --> 1:12:23.120 lost to. 1:12:24.120 --> 1:12:29.080 No, No, Well, well, here's the thing. It depends who 1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:29.439 you are. 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:32.400 I think for the fan base, they're probably excited we 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:34.760 lost because you want to You got the third overall pick. 1:12:34.840 --> 1:12:36.639 Now they probably want you to lose the next two. 1:12:37.320 --> 1:12:39.679 But if you look at the overall organization and losing 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:43.080 to that team who had lost ten straight, it's a 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:46.759 gut punch when every coach, player, in front office, person 1:12:47.200 --> 1:12:47.799 in the building. 1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:52.880 It's it's amazing that you don't see what I when 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.120 I say that though, that there are good losses if 1:12:55.160 --> 1:13:00.320 the players play well, the young players grow, and. 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:00.920 I see it. I'm talking talking about the people. 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:03.479 Oh, the people are playing the game. No, you know. 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:05.840 Then again, then again, you didn't see much emotion from 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:07.439 anybody either way, So maybe. 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:08.280 They don't give a crap. 1:13:08.600 --> 1:13:12.400 But it's a bad look losing to it a Raiders 1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:14.640 team that had lost ten straight. 1:13:15.880 --> 1:13:19.200 Well, you are the Raiders. Let's not forget that. They're 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:19.799 the Raiders. 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:24.799 That's the Raiders. Pete. I'm glad you said that because 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:30.880 that is what's painful for me and maybe what it 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:33.160 is and this is like maybe the first step to 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:35.000 recovery is for all of us to look in the 1:13:35.000 --> 1:13:36.080 mirror and say, that's us. 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:38.160 That's exactly who they are. 1:13:38.400 --> 1:13:39.000 That's us. 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:40.960 And you know what I always say about the Raiders 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:42.080 commitment to excrement. 1:13:44.960 --> 1:13:46.600 I'm not going to sign off on that. 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:52.600 But you know, because we talk about and I'm guilty this, 1:13:52.680 --> 1:13:57.000 we talked about bad franchises, bad teams like the Jets, 1:13:57.040 --> 1:14:01.600 the Raiders, you know, the Browns, you know whoever, just 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:02.320 go down the list. 1:14:02.479 --> 1:14:06.479 Panthers, that's us right now, that's us, it's who we are. 1:14:06.640 --> 1:14:08.200 Panthers have a better record. 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:09.920 For the last year and a half. 1:14:09.960 --> 1:14:12.680 That's exactly who this franchise has been. And that's what 1:14:12.760 --> 1:14:16.599 the worst teams in the NFL, that's what's painful. Right 1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:19.639 But until they start realizing it then and you talk 1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:20.639 about the pain of the. 1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:23.360 Loss, nobody showed any emotion at all. 1:14:24.680 --> 1:14:29.360 Ever. So so when a guy plays well, If I 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:32.360 see the rookie defensive tackle playing well and they lost, 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:37.840 that's progress. Brian Thomas played well and they lost, that's progress. 1:14:38.240 --> 1:14:40.360 Strange in the last couple of weeks, when he plays 1:14:40.400 --> 1:14:42.280 well and they lost, that's progress. 1:14:43.400 --> 1:14:45.920 So this was If the draft holds as it is, 1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:50.080 that's three out of five years we've had top five picks. 1:14:52.240 --> 1:14:55.040 The story would be so much better if it was 1:14:55.080 --> 1:14:56.400 the first overall back. 1:14:57.320 --> 1:14:59.679 I mean said, it can't happen. 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:04.639 Uhuh, it can't happen. It's not happening. But that's how 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:05.599 bad the Giants are. 1:15:05.680 --> 1:15:10.200 But they'd be just out of curiousity. What's the Giant 1:15:10.200 --> 1:15:11.559 strength of schedule? Can you look at it? 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:18.160 Yeah, it's it's it's better than the Jags. So in theory, yeah. 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:20.120 And we lose out we have the number one overall pick. 1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:24.040 Yes, in theory, but it's not gonna Well, what's the 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:26.200 Patriots is Jacksonville's worst two? 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:29.000 Yeah, because they have the same record right now. So 1:15:29.040 --> 1:15:30.920 in theory, if they played it out, which they do 1:15:31.000 --> 1:15:35.200 to determine this on that website, the Patriots would be. 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:40.000 So if the Patriots won, if the Patriots and Jaguars 1:15:40.000 --> 1:15:41.280 both have the same record. 1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:43.479 It looks like the Patriots would have the second pick. 1:15:44.200 --> 1:15:46.720 Jackson would have the first pick, the third pick, the 1:15:46.800 --> 1:15:47.280 third pick. 1:15:47.360 --> 1:15:49.840 If the Giants lose, then. 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:51.080 What if the Giants win one? 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.519 That's a great question. It's a great question. 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:59.680 I mean, the the best part of the whole thing 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:00.719 would be if they pick. 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:04.600 First, because it's never happened in the three times in 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:05.439 a five year span. 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:08.400 Every just goes to show you where the franchise is. 1:16:09.720 --> 1:16:12.560 Usually when you draft first overall. 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:18.639 One, Oh, bon pete, you're telling me, is it any 1:16:18.680 --> 1:16:20.120 different if we're drafting third? 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:24.320 Just for the narrative, for the narrative, what changes? 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:24.559 Oh? 1:16:24.600 --> 1:16:25.519 Yeah, it's not different. 1:16:26.000 --> 1:16:28.679 It's not different. So we lost, we like, Okay, let's 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:29.479 just play this out. 1:16:30.080 --> 1:16:32.920 Yeah, but when somebody's saying, we won three games and 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:35.959 we're picking third, we don't have the first pick. 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:40.000 Give me up. But Tony, you know, during draft they'll say, oh, 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:42.000 this is the third time they've been picking in the 1:16:42.000 --> 1:16:44.000 top five in the in the last three year. Is 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:46.200 not gonna be the same as you're picking first overall 1:16:46.240 --> 1:16:47.559 three times in the last five years. 1:16:47.600 --> 1:16:49.720 He wants the headline. He wants the headline. 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:51.400 I want the headline. 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:52.719 Let's just call it. 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:56.720 It's it's embarrassing, it's terrible, and and and when you're 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:59.360 a fan sitting out there, that's why they're all calling 1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:02.120 for change, every one of them. Did they look at 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:05.800 that and then the flip side of it, and somebody 1:17:05.840 --> 1:17:08.080 will say, well, look they got that star wide receiver 1:17:08.240 --> 1:17:10.479 later in the first round. Okay, well you can balance 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:11.920 it out by saying you didn't do this in the 1:17:11.960 --> 1:17:13.760 first round. He didn't do that in the first round. 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:15.120 He didn't do that in the second round. 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:18.240 Cale was a first rounder. 1:17:19.320 --> 1:17:22.920 Yeah, he's got four sacks in the last three games, 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:26.599 and he had an interception that was called back. 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:30.880 He didn't by the way that that play was going nowhere. 1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:32.600 If he doesn't knock the ball down. There was a 1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:36.760 guy right there ready to make the play. Is Caleb on, 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:38.960 Chase On? Could he have helped this team as a 1:17:39.000 --> 1:17:40.040 situational rusher? 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:43.679 Is he better than Cohle's Hell? 1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:44.559 Yeah, he is. 1:17:46.000 --> 1:17:47.439 The answer. There's your answer, Peat. 1:17:49.000 --> 1:17:52.880 But you know what happened. He didn't get drafted by 1:17:52.880 --> 1:17:54.640 this guy. 1:17:55.960 --> 1:17:57.800 He was in the building when they drafted him. 1:17:57.920 --> 1:17:59.280 He didn't draft him. 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:03.360 Use the assistant GM dude, he ain't taking credit for 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:03.880 that one. 1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:09.160 Come on, I didn't draft that. 1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:13.360 Come on, you know, you know he pushes that on. 1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.519 And it was a bad draft, terrible draft. 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:19.479 That was a terrible draft. 1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:21.120 I get my bigger point. Pize this. 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:25.000 It doesn't make me feel any better if we pick 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:28.120 third instead of first. In fact, at this point, if 1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:29.920 you're gonna need this badge, mules will picked first. He 1:18:29.920 --> 1:18:31.200 can trade down and get more picks. 1:18:31.320 --> 1:18:33.840 Listen to him, Pete, listen. Let you I think he's 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:34.679 turned the corner. 1:18:35.439 --> 1:18:37.360 Yeah, I'm always a big believer in trading down and 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:38.120 get more picks. 1:18:38.600 --> 1:18:43.639 But it's also if we were arguing in the court 1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:48.719 of law and gave twelve reasons why the guy is guilty, 1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:53.760 and we presented all our evidence. The jury would come 1:18:53.800 --> 1:19:03.000 back in about twenty two minutes with a verdict. Okay, guilty, guilty, Okay, 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:05.759 look at the proof is in the pudding. You're shaking 1:19:05.760 --> 1:19:07.960 your head, JP, but the proof is in the pudding. 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:11.400 There's nothing you can there's no other way to argue 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:14.040 the case. The other way. You could have the greatest 1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:16.640 you could have every attorney in the world on the 1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:19.880 other side. And I'm still winning because I got the 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:21.200 facts to lay them out. 1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:27.439 That's it for fanatics fan questions today. We're back in 1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:30.880 a moment. Well around the way. 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:32.200 I'd be a really good attorney. 1:19:33.840 --> 1:19:37.320 Gosh, can you imagine you in a courtroom, just hammered 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:43.000 away the windows. Oh, we're back in a moment. We'll 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.639 go around the NFL. Two for the price of one 1:19:45.760 --> 1:19:50.800 segments ahead. Oh boy, it's Jaguars Happy Hour, president by 1:19:50.840 --> 1:20:06.559 mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back. Jaguars Happy Hour continues the 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:10.559 second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. J. P. Shadwick, 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:16.600 Tony ROUSSELLI, Pete Prisco Licking our wounds after another Jaguars loss. 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:22.679 Nineteen fourteen, It's time to go around the National Football 1:20:22.800 --> 1:20:28.760 League In week sixteen, and yes Thursday game Chargers beat 1:20:28.760 --> 1:20:31.280 the Broncos thirty four to twenty seven, both of those 1:20:31.320 --> 1:20:35.760 teams fighting for a wild card spot. The Chargers gotta win. 1:20:36.400 --> 1:20:39.320 Do the Broncos have the juice? Do they have enough peat? 1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:43.600 I don't know. It all depends on what the Chiefs do. 1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:45.680 If the Chiefs don't play in the final week of 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:47.600 the season, I think the Broncos get in. If the 1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:49.720 Chiefs play the final week of the season, their need to. 1:20:50.080 --> 1:20:52.600 It's gonna be tough, tough sledding for the Broncos to 1:20:52.640 --> 1:20:52.880 get in. 1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:56.760 But I mean, I don't think the Broncos are doing 1:20:56.800 --> 1:21:01.360 anything in the playoffs one and two. Let's give Sean 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:04.040 Payton a ton of credit because they're probably a year 1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:06.920 or two ahead of where they thought they'd be. I mean, 1:21:07.000 --> 1:21:09.920 I think they got fifty million or sixty million dollars 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:12.280 of dead money on the on the cap. 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:15.599 Because of the Wilson. Yeah, because so Wilson. 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:18.519 I think we lost Pete. Oh are you there? 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:20.960 Okay, you must have lost my picture for some reason, 1:21:21.000 --> 1:21:22.360 any idea I could see you guys. 1:21:22.479 --> 1:21:24.480 That's what we call in the business and improvement. 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:26.000 Yes, it is. 1:21:26.000 --> 1:21:28.320 Much better then they would go to the one on 1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:30.360 the left and knock that one out real quick. 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:33.160 I mean, Pete, I think you'd agree. 1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:34.680 I mean, they're ahead of schedule and they've done a 1:21:34.680 --> 1:21:37.280 great job because I don't think anyone saw the Broncos 1:21:37.320 --> 1:21:41.000 making a move this year for the playoffs, rooking quarterback, 1:21:41.240 --> 1:21:43.320 a lot of dead money on the cap because of 1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:46.439 the Russell Wilson trade, so their hands were tied a 1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:50.360 little bit, and they've got a great year. So whatever happens, 1:21:50.439 --> 1:21:53.320 I think the Broncos are gonna say, hey, we are 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:54.679 poised for the future. 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.320 We have our franchise quarterback, we have our head coach. 1:21:57.400 --> 1:21:58.360 Let's go build it now. 1:21:58.760 --> 1:21:59.000 Yeah. 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:01.439 I mean they're in a great situation. And he wanted 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:03.519 that quarterback and he got him, and here he might 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:04.200 make the playoffs. 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:05.679 They got a lot of young players on that team, 1:22:05.680 --> 1:22:06.920 good young players. 1:22:07.640 --> 1:22:09.800 I was so excited about Saturday because of the three 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:12.840 college football playoff games and the two NFL games. The 1:22:12.840 --> 1:22:16.920 playoff college games were not great, and then the NFL games, 1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:20.439 Chiefs over the Texans twenty seven to nineteen. The Ravens 1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:24.080 beat the Steelers thirty four to seventeen. These games even 1:22:24.640 --> 1:22:25.800 were not even close people. 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:28.360 Yeah, that was a good. 1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:33.280 Steelers game. Was much closer than the. 1:22:32.760 --> 1:22:35.120 Score, right, because they had the picks the whole thing. 1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:38.000 Yeah, and the Chiefs game was relatively close for most 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:38.599 of that game. 1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:41.280 Yeah, you're right, you're right, I'm wrong, you're right. 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:43.599 The college football, though, it was atrocian. 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:46.360 It was terrible. It was terrible. 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:48.439 I don't know if the ratings came out today, I 1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:50.679 haven't seen them, but I imagine the NFL crushed them. 1:22:51.520 --> 1:22:54.200 I saw some some tweet earlier that Yeah, it was 1:22:54.320 --> 1:22:58.280 like seven something and six and a half for the 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:00.439 other one NFL games, and then all the all the 1:23:01.000 --> 1:23:04.200 biggest Tennessee Ohio State was like five and low fives 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:05.200 something like that. 1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:08.360 You know, the other thing about it is that everybody's 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:10.880 giving Oh, how dare the NFL play on Saturday? When 1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:14.920 college foot the NFL played on Saturday for decades after 1:23:14.960 --> 1:23:19.280 the after the Army Navy game, college football made a mistake. 1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:23.840 And I don't want to stay at the obvious NFL's king. 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:27.240 They gonna do what they want. Yeah, guess what they're 1:23:27.280 --> 1:23:27.960 also going to play. 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.200 They also never playing Christmas because that was supposedly the 1:23:31.320 --> 1:23:32.120 NBA day. 1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:34.200 Not anymore, no. 1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:38.160 In fact, we got two games on Chris too sold 1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:39.960 them to Netflix. They're on Netflix. 1:23:40.160 --> 1:23:44.360 Yeah, I mean, so let's hope the streaming service works 1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:46.400 a little bit better than that Jake Paul fight on Netflix. 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:47.679 I'm hoping that works better. 1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:50.599 But I mean, the NFL's king, and when the King 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:52.280 wants to play a game, they play a game, and 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:53.679 everyone else has to get out of the way. 1:23:53.800 --> 1:23:55.880 Except on Friday during the high school season. 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:58.080 They can't because they don't want to. 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:00.800 Well they can't not allowed by law. 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:03.639 There's old law in books that they can't do it. 1:24:05.040 --> 1:24:09.200 But again, again, they wouldn't want to play on They 1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:12.120 actually don't want to compete against college eena because that's 1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:14.920 the growing of the game, especially high school. 1:24:14.920 --> 1:24:17.120 They don't want to. Sorry, my battery is about to that. 1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:20.120 And my compete, Pete was that. By the way, what 1:24:20.120 --> 1:24:22.040 what year was that or were you there when they 1:24:22.120 --> 1:24:22.680 enacted that? 1:24:23.520 --> 1:24:24.679 No, that was a long time ago. 1:24:24.760 --> 1:24:25.880 That's what I'm asking you for. 1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:26.880 Yeah, no, I. 1:24:26.800 --> 1:24:28.320 Mean, I think I was alive, but I don't think 1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:28.599 I was. 1:24:28.720 --> 1:24:31.880 I was around. And here here's the other thing is, uh, 1:24:33.000 --> 1:24:36.599 don't everybody's got to watch at one o'clock in New 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:40.320 Year's Day. I gotta watch that one. 1:24:40.520 --> 1:24:41.559 Is that Arizona State. 1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:43.720 Yeah, I'm worried about that one. I didn't want to 1:24:43.720 --> 1:24:44.880 play Texas. 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:50.160 I am pete. You know what, Send me an Arizona 1:24:50.360 --> 1:24:52.880 State T shirt. I will take a picture, I'll wear it. 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:56.599 I would be hard for the sun Devils in that game. 1:24:58.280 --> 1:24:59.880 If I could get you one, I'll send you one. 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:02.360 I'll wear it, take a picture, because I want the 1:25:02.360 --> 1:25:03.240 sun Devils to win. 1:25:03.960 --> 1:25:06.639 Yeah, but there's Texas is so big. 1:25:07.040 --> 1:25:08.880 I don't think they have a chance and you know what, 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:10.080 to win, but I want them to. 1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:10.639 Yeah. 1:25:10.680 --> 1:25:13.400 I don't think they're too ASU will score on Texas. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:15.920 I just don't think they'll stop them. They're too big. 1:25:16.240 --> 1:25:18.519 Have you seen Texas offensive line, it's enormous. 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:19.080 Yeah. 1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:23.720 Some of the NFL games, Falcons big over the Giants, 1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:26.400 the Panthers beat the Cardinals. 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:27.920 Let's go back to the Falcons game. 1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:30.400 Michael Pennix in his first NFL starting getting to win 1:25:30.439 --> 1:25:32.000 as a rookie. 1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:35.320 It was like, did some good, did some bad. 1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:38.040 It wasn't great, but he made some throws and he 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:38.800 looked comfortable. 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.200 And and now now we'll really see what he does 1:25:42.240 --> 1:25:45.680 because they play on the road as the team that's 1:25:45.800 --> 1:25:49.160 leading the division against the Commanders on Sunday night, first 1:25:49.240 --> 1:25:50.280 road game beat. 1:25:50.360 --> 1:25:52.479 What the hell happened to Kyle Pitts in Atlanta? He 1:25:52.760 --> 1:25:54.639 tipped that ball for the own interception? 1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:56.960 What's going on with Yeah, he's just not He had 1:25:57.320 --> 1:25:59.200 had the one rookie year and then after that it's 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:00.000 been disastered. 1:26:00.080 --> 1:26:03.000 He's been a bust. Top ten pick. 1:26:03.680 --> 1:26:06.000 Yeah, yeah, remember him coming out of Florida. Everyone thought 1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:07.320 he was going to be the second coming. 1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:09.400 Remember Urban was talking about trying to trade up to 1:26:09.439 --> 1:26:11.320 get Remember that. 1:26:12.040 --> 1:26:13.639 Urban also wanted to draft Tony. 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:18.360 Remember he wanted to when they drafted Etn he wanted 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:19.680 Kadarius Tony. 1:26:20.000 --> 1:26:25.080 That's true. Panthers over the Cardinals thirty six thirty. Panthers 1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:26.720 now have a better record than the Jags, and the 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:31.720 Lions beat the Bears. How about the fake fumble play touchdown? 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:32.920 I mean, then why pull that out? 1:26:32.960 --> 1:26:37.400 Now? Well, well there must be some variation off of that, 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:41.120 but I'll be honest with you, I didn't like to play. 1:26:41.400 --> 1:26:44.200 You could leak that tight end out without doing the trip, 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:47.559 the fake trip. What if he what if he fell 1:26:47.960 --> 1:26:50.920 really fell and tripped. It's a sack. 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.160 Does it matter. They're gonna win no matter what. 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:58.280 Man, No, but I don't know. It's almost like, look, 1:26:58.320 --> 1:27:00.880 he gets creative. I love his creator activity. I just 1:27:00.880 --> 1:27:03.000 don't think you need it. The guy would have leaked out. 1:27:03.000 --> 1:27:05.080 Everybody runs that play the tight end leak you go 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:07.280 do you? You know you you get him out? He 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:09.760 actually his block and he comes across the formation. 1:27:11.040 --> 1:27:13.719 With this Lions tea with you man, let him have fun? 1:27:14.760 --> 1:27:17.240 Is that fun? 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:21.599 Kind of fun? I I just because you gotta look 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:23.280 at it from the stand What if he actually did 1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:25.760 fall down, then it's a sack. 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:29.280 He can fall down any play. He didn't. 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:34.080 Do you stumble and fumble all over yourself on every play, Tony, 1:27:34.200 --> 1:27:34.479 he was. 1:27:35.080 --> 1:27:37.040 Pose idiot, he was under control. 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:40.160 Oh he could fall I didn't like it. 1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:42.680 I mean, Pete, like, I'm gonna go back to what 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:43.920 you said about this Jaguars team. 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:45.720 They don't have fun. They need more fun. 1:27:45.960 --> 1:27:48.599 That were fun. Yeah, he leaks if he just leaks 1:27:48.640 --> 1:27:51.320 out normally body in the NFL. 1:27:51.640 --> 1:27:54.200 Every fan loved it except for you. Pete. 1:27:54.280 --> 1:27:56.479 You are totally rich. 1:27:57.800 --> 1:27:59.360 Crisco is what your name is? 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.479 Well, I just look at it from a practical standpoint, 1:28:02.520 --> 1:28:03.200 it was a practice. 1:28:03.200 --> 1:28:05.320 Will give me a break. There's nothing like you pick 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:06.719 and choose when you want to be practiced. 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:09.519 No, I don't, No, I don't. I just I didn't. 1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:11.040 I didn't think it was that great a play. 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:12.599 And you always seem to pick it. We're talking about 1:28:12.600 --> 1:28:15.760 the Lions. H you always seem to pick the to 1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:18.120 be practical when we talk about the Lions, you can't 1:28:18.120 --> 1:28:18.599 stand there. 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:19.920 You lot of stupid things. 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:22.840 They're four, they're thirteen to. 1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:26.360 Two, but they all do. They also would have been 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:27.760 in the super Bowl last year if they didn't do 1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:28.479 the stupid things. 1:28:28.760 --> 1:28:31.759 Okay, fine, they're thirteen and two with like eleven guys 1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:32.440 on IR. 1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:35.920 This is because the team is good. They're a good team. 1:28:35.960 --> 1:28:37.600 I'm not saying they're not a good team. Did I 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:39.200 ever say that? No? 1:28:39.240 --> 1:28:41.559 But you're being very negative, and I'm tired of your negativity. 1:28:41.600 --> 1:28:43.960 I have enough negativity in my life with the franchise. 1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:46.320 I love Pete. I don't need more out of you. 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:51.320 Well, you're also partial to that franchise, going not you 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:53.639 love the Lions because your buddy's a coach on that team. 1:28:53.720 --> 1:28:55.800 I love their quarterback coach. 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Jaden Daniels is pretty remarkable. 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:17.800 Pete thought he was the best quarterback in the draft 1:30:17.800 --> 1:30:19.840 going in, and he's the best quarterback in the draft 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:26.200 right now. And he's special. He plays with an ease 1:30:26.360 --> 1:30:30.640 and a calm, and you know that's the thing that 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:33.559 stands out about him. Fourth and eleven, scrambles for twenty yards, 1:30:34.000 --> 1:30:36.040 has the ability to go get outside the pocket. But boy, 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:38.080 he could make some throws that you just go wow, 1:30:38.120 --> 1:30:41.680 including the touchdown. I mean, he's They have themselves a 1:30:41.760 --> 1:30:45.439 quarter That's a great situation in Washington because they have 1:30:45.520 --> 1:30:47.760 money and they have a quarterback. 1:30:49.120 --> 1:30:49.720 Absolutely. 1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:53.519 What about the Eagles peat, I mean, Jalen Hurts concussion protocol, 1:30:53.600 --> 1:30:56.200 so you know it's a coin flip whether it'll be 1:30:56.240 --> 1:30:57.120 ready this week or not. 1:30:57.240 --> 1:31:02.120 My guess is yes he will be. But without Jalen Hurts. 1:31:02.600 --> 1:31:05.760 They didn't lose because they didn't have Jalen Hurts. 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:07.880 They lost because the defense that was number one ranked 1:31:07.880 --> 1:31:10.480 in all year, it couldn't stop them. 1:31:10.760 --> 1:31:11.920 But they needed to stop them. 1:31:11.960 --> 1:31:14.120 I mean that's fair because they did score thirty twenty three. 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:16.760 Right, yeah, yeah. 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:18.639 That's a good point. But yeah, James Daniels special. 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:23.160 Speaking of rookie quarterbacks, Pete, I was reading today about 1:31:23.280 --> 1:31:25.160 Caleb Williams. I mean I follow him just because the 1:31:25.160 --> 1:31:28.360 best seat. I mean, James Daniels is clearly the better 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:33.479 player this year as a rookie. But Caleb Williams sneaking 1:31:33.920 --> 1:31:36.479 having a sneaky good year for all that he's going 1:31:36.520 --> 1:31:39.599 through with the you know how unstable that franchise is gone, 1:31:39.640 --> 1:31:44.440 through multiple coordinators, head coaches. I mean, he has nineteen touchdowns, 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:47.920 only five picks, and has thrown for the sixth most 1:31:48.000 --> 1:31:50.880 yards in the history of the Bears French franchise with 1:31:51.040 --> 1:31:52.240 just over thirty two hundred. 1:31:53.800 --> 1:31:55.280 He does have a tendency to get a lot of 1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:58.720 the somebody called them the Caleb Blake bortles Williams the 1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:00.679 other day because he has a tennis to get him, 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:02.080 get him late in the game. 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:07.040 But he's not throwing no, And you know it's amazing 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:08.760 because he can make some throws that you look at 1:32:08.800 --> 1:32:10.639 him and you go, oh my gosh, what a throw, 1:32:10.800 --> 1:32:12.680 and then he spins around on the next play for 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:13.799 about forty two minutes. 1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:16.640 So he's got talent. He'll be fine. He's gonna be 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:17.240 a good player. 1:32:17.280 --> 1:32:20.160 He threw four touchdowns against the Jags and then had 1:32:20.240 --> 1:32:24.679 four games without one, and now he has five consecutive games, 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.240 four of those with multiple touchdowns. 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:28.320 He's getting better. 1:32:28.800 --> 1:32:30.639 I think he has nineteen touchdowns in the air. 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:31.759 That's correct. 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:36.120 He's he's getting better and he will be fine. 1:32:36.479 --> 1:32:37.679 I just don't think he's the other. 1:32:37.560 --> 1:32:41.920 Guy vikings over the Seahawks twenty seven to twenty four. 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:45.160 Bills beat the Patriots. They had a rally to do it, 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:46.519 but they did it. And the Dolphins. 1:32:46.720 --> 1:32:47.719 Is that not a classic? 1:32:47.800 --> 1:32:51.040 By the way, team wins big game on the road 1:32:51.040 --> 1:32:53.280 against the Lions, that comes home and plays a bad 1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:55.559 team and he kind of goes through the motions for 1:32:56.000 --> 1:32:59.080 two quarters, looks up and goes h oh, and then 1:32:59.080 --> 1:32:59.960 they found the way out of it. 1:33:00.040 --> 1:33:00.280 Figure. 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:01.000 I do think it was. 1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:03.640 It's interesting that they finally announced that Josh Allen's been 1:33:03.640 --> 1:33:05.120 playing with a broken hand. 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:09.080 Yeah, on his non throwing. 1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:10.839 Hand, but I don't care it's broken. 1:33:10.960 --> 1:33:15.320 And guy plays quarterback like very few people do in 1:33:15.320 --> 1:33:15.759 the NFL. 1:33:15.880 --> 1:33:18.160 He's a power runner like a linebacker. 1:33:18.360 --> 1:33:20.960 Yeah, I mean he is so good, Pete. I mean, 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:22.080 I mean and. 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:27.160 Game as wrong as you were about Will Levis and 1:33:27.479 --> 1:33:31.880 Christian Ponder. You held your guns over the first two 1:33:32.000 --> 1:33:34.160 or three years of Josh Allen's career, saying he was 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:36.320 going to be a star, and boy he is. 1:33:36.560 --> 1:33:38.479 You gotta give me Patrick Mahomes too, because I was 1:33:38.520 --> 1:33:39.080 on him too. 1:33:39.880 --> 1:33:43.719 Okay, So you're so zero for two with Ponder and Levis, 1:33:43.800 --> 1:33:46.479 but two for two with the other two. Five I'm like, 1:33:46.680 --> 1:33:48.759 I'm like an NFL general manager, I got fifty. 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:51.800 Weren't a lot of people on Patrick Mahomes. 1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:54.559 No, that were not. They weren't as many as you think. Really, 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:55.960 I could look at it. 1:33:56.800 --> 1:33:59.040 I was always big on Josh Allen, so I was 1:33:59.040 --> 1:33:59.920 with you on that one. 1:34:00.280 --> 1:34:03.200 Dolphins over the Niners. The Cowboys beat the Buccaneers, which 1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:05.439 means the Falcons are in the driver's seat in the 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:06.439 NFC South. 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:08.320 That's a bad loss for the Bucks. 1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:12.479 But but are they really as really in the driver's seat? 1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:14.040 They gotta go to the Commanders. I don't see them 1:34:14.040 --> 1:34:14.559 winning that game. 1:34:14.560 --> 1:34:16.920 On Sunday night, I mean, and the Bucks play host 1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:20.080 to the Saints and the Panthers to close out their season. 1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:23.040 If you had to pick which team would be the 1:34:23.120 --> 1:34:25.439 team that represents the division? Who would you bead was 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:28.280 the Bucks? Yeah, but they didn't play well last night. 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:30.200 No, I agree, I'm not. I mean, I'm not saying 1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:32.400 that Falcons can. I'm saying they have the harder road, 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:33.599 much harder. 1:34:34.720 --> 1:34:37.360 Monday Night Football, the five and nine New Orleans Saints, 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:40.160 with nobody left to play on the field, visit Lambea 1:34:40.280 --> 1:34:42.479 to face the ten and four Green Bay Packers. Will 1:34:42.520 --> 1:34:45.960 win and the Packers secure a spot in the NFC playoffs. 1:34:46.200 --> 1:34:48.080 Who you got in Green Bay? I think I know 1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:48.519 the answer. 1:34:49.120 --> 1:34:52.840 Look, come on, I mean, I haven't seen a team 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:56.120 this deb seeded since the forty nine ers. But I 1:34:56.160 --> 1:34:58.679 mean you look at this team. Derek Carr not there, 1:34:58.760 --> 1:35:02.000 Kamara not there. All the receivers are down, all of them. 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:05.000 They're playing a bunch of guys off the street. Defensively, 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:05.760 they're banged up. 1:35:05.800 --> 1:35:08.679 I mean, this is this is a bad football team 1:35:08.760 --> 1:35:09.160 right now. 1:35:09.520 --> 1:35:12.960 Could they not flec They can't flex mondayday nights. 1:35:13.080 --> 1:35:17.240 No, they flex Sunday and they flex Thursday, but they're 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:18.360 not flexing Monday. 1:35:18.560 --> 1:35:22.559 They should flex Monday. Because not that there was a 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:23.920 great slate of game Sunday. 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:27.080 But but the Packers though, and they can clinch a 1:35:27.120 --> 1:35:28.599 playoff spot. That's why they're right. 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:31.559 Yeah, but it's against the Saints. Then we're gonna watch 1:35:31.600 --> 1:35:32.559 I mean I'll watch it. 1:35:33.040 --> 1:35:35.479 Everybody will watch it. The NFL, of course they'll watch it. 1:35:35.560 --> 1:35:35.960 Stop it. 1:35:37.360 --> 1:35:40.479 There you have it looked around the National Football League? Pete? 1:35:40.479 --> 1:35:42.200 What are your holiday plans this week? 1:35:42.240 --> 1:35:44.599 What do you I'm working, uh, and then going out 1:35:44.600 --> 1:35:46.920 to dinner with my father and UH and my wife 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:48.600 and we'll have a nice little time going out to 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:49.839 a nice Italian restaurant. 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:50.639 Which one? 1:35:51.560 --> 1:35:53.960 It's on Oakland Park. You know you wouldn't know what 1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:55.679 it was. Why you've been to some of them? 1:35:56.080 --> 1:35:56.840 No, I'm just curious. 1:35:56.840 --> 1:36:00.120 Anthony ever gone to Anthony's on Runway eighty four down there? 1:36:00.560 --> 1:36:01.400 I love that place. 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:02.760 Yeah, they redid it. 1:36:03.560 --> 1:36:05.120 Why don't you go there? That'd be a good place 1:36:05.160 --> 1:36:05.559 for dinner. 1:36:05.600 --> 1:36:08.360 I don't think they're opening Christmas Day? 1:36:08.439 --> 1:36:08.879 Nice? 1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:10.360 JP. What are you doing. 1:36:10.960 --> 1:36:13.439 I've got the Chiefs and the Steelers on Westwood one 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:14.400 Christmas Day? 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:15.639 Good for you? 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:18.200 Wow? Look at that look he held off telling us 1:36:18.240 --> 1:36:19.559 that one didn't he I held out. 1:36:19.640 --> 1:36:22.400 It never came up I'm leaving tomorrow morning and then 1:36:22.400 --> 1:36:23.679 i'll be back Thursday morning. 1:36:24.720 --> 1:36:25.439 Look at that guy. 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:29.320 It should be a good game, good game game. Who's 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:31.160 color Ross Tucker? 1:36:32.360 --> 1:36:33.439 Okay? 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:35.160 I had him. We had him on a Monday night 1:36:35.200 --> 1:36:39.360 game in Miami earlier in the year. Yeah, well, good people. So, 1:36:39.720 --> 1:36:41.240 and you've got family in town Tony. 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:44.320 Yeah, I got all my kids are coming. My daughter 1:36:44.360 --> 1:36:45.360 got here today. 1:36:45.560 --> 1:36:49.800 My son is taking the Red Eye on Christmas Eve, 1:36:49.840 --> 1:36:51.080 so it'll be your Christmas morning. 1:36:51.439 --> 1:36:52.240 Where does he live? 1:36:52.760 --> 1:36:53.480 San Francisco? 1:36:53.720 --> 1:36:55.839 Okay? And then. 1:36:57.160 --> 1:37:00.519 Well I have everyone here, but uh one son in 1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:03.120 law will not make it because he's got he's at 1:37:03.120 --> 1:37:06.479 a ball game. So let's have all all my kids, 1:37:06.760 --> 1:37:08.800 grandparents will be here. It'll be chaos. 1:37:09.040 --> 1:37:13.080 I'll be Is that the offensive tackle? Where's he play at? 1:37:13.120 --> 1:37:13.360 Now? 1:37:13.880 --> 1:37:14.440 Oklahoma? 1:37:14.920 --> 1:37:18.599 Okay? So does he play? 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:22.799 I started the first seven. I think hurt his ankle. 1:37:23.760 --> 1:37:25.800 He missed a couple and I don't know if he'll 1:37:25.800 --> 1:37:27.040 be back from the ball game or not. 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:28.320 I haven't. That's my daughter. 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:29.559 He's in the portal. 1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:32.280 He was in the portal then, so he made more 1:37:32.280 --> 1:37:33.720 money than you did when you were at us. 1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.760 Merry Christmas, guys, we'll talk to you next. 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:41.000 Everybody. 1:37:41.320 --> 1:37:45.200 Merry Christmas, Selly, Pete Prisco, I'm JP Shadder. Thanks for 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:48.240 our entire crew, Joe fortunate out of Brent Reaver and 1:37:48.400 --> 1:37:51.880 David Choe And this is Jaguars Happy Hour,