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Speaker 1: on ten tenxl Amjaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube recapping

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Speaker 1: another Jaguars loss, Raiders nineteen Jaguars fourteen. The only bright

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Speaker 1: spot Brian Thomas Junior goes over one thousand yards for

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Speaker 1: the season. Defensive issues continue, though we'll keep it real

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Speaker 1: involving the draft order, which has improved fanatics, fan questions,

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Speaker 1: we'll try to get to those coming up. We'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League as well. After the game

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Speaker 1: in law Las Vegas, another loss head coach Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 4: Ah, you're right, it's not for the you know, for

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Speaker 4: lack of effort, physicality and all that. The guys, guys

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Speaker 4: do play hard, but the mistakes, penalties, you know, things

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Speaker 4: that just kind of held us back all season.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's the it's the.

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Speaker 4: I think his coaches players. It is the frustrating part.

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Speaker 4: And uh, until we get that corrected, obviously, you know

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of a lot of long days.

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Speaker 4: We gotta get fixed.

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Speaker 1: Boy, A frustrated head coach after the game. Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior writer in South Florida. Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame left tackle Tony Bisselli is at home in

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Speaker 1: his home studio today and uh, boy, that that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a defeat. It's so it's so funny, Tony. What's

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Speaker 1: the what's the smile?

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Speaker 2: I mean what you called it my home studio? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess. Uh, it's Christmas.

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Speaker 5: I got my daughter flew in today from Oklahoma. I

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Speaker 5: got you know, Christmas Eve. But so we have a

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Speaker 5: bunch of family here and I'm like, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna kick it here so I can

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Speaker 5: spend as much time as possible with him.

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Speaker 6: Plus plus he could always it's always great to do

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Speaker 6: the show next to your bust. I mean, what the

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Speaker 6: hell me and j P don't have busts behind us

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Speaker 6: and our.

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Speaker 2: Shall I just leave it like that?

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Speaker 6: No, it's bad enough seeing one of those heads, the

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Speaker 6: real one but no, uh, by the way back to Doug, Well,

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Speaker 6: until we get it fixed, so we're gonna have don't

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Speaker 6: worry about it. It's probably only two more weeks to

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Speaker 6: worry about fixing it.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying, I'm not I'm saying with this group.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no yeah, I mean, listen, how do I

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Speaker 5: say this. You're three and twelve. I mean the high

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Speaker 5: level mark at this point is five and twelve.

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Speaker 2: Nobody.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you got to finish the season, and you

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Speaker 5: got to try to finish it the best you possibly can.

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Speaker 5: And if you're It's different for the fans and us

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Speaker 5: compared to the players and coaches because the players and

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Speaker 5: coaches don't care about draft status or anything like that,

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Speaker 5: and so they just want to win and that's what

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Speaker 5: they should be thinking about. They just want to try

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Speaker 5: to finish on a good note, some positive feelings on

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Speaker 5: a Sunday night. Enjoy, you know, try to enjoy the

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Speaker 5: last you know, two weeks of this season where the

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Speaker 5: fans beat and you know this, I mean we saw it.

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Speaker 5: The Raider fans were ticked leaving Oakland, I mean I

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Speaker 5: leave in Las Vegas because they're like, wait a second,

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Speaker 5: we won the game.

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Speaker 2: But we have the worst draft of status.

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Speaker 7: Well, now they don't have the quarterback, right.

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Speaker 5: And so everybody else, you know, the fans and everyone

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Speaker 5: else at this point are side. Listen, Let's get the

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Speaker 5: best possible draft pick we can.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this thing over with and let's get to

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Speaker 2: the off season.

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Speaker 6: So I was waiting for the call down Raiders, Raiders

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Speaker 6: from above Mark Davis. He says, please let them score,

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Speaker 6: Please let them score. You know, think about think about

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Speaker 6: how the fortunes you franchise might change. You might have

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Speaker 6: had one of those two quarterbacks and if one of

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Speaker 6: turns out to be like Jayden Daniels, you just ruined it.

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Speaker 5: Well not yet, I mean, still two weeks to go.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think the only thing we know about

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Speaker 5: be had the first overall pick.

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Speaker 2: That's about all we know.

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Speaker 1: Feels that way, right, that.

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Speaker 2: Knows what's gonna happen. I mean, it can change multiple times.

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Speaker 6: Well, this game to Jacksonville this week is big for

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Speaker 5: But this is the worst possible place for an organization

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Speaker 5: where your fan base is like literally hoping to lose

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Speaker 5: because the fan base cares more about the draft at

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Speaker 5: this point than anything.

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Speaker 7: Else, well not almost anything else.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's be honest.

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Speaker 5: The fan base cares about what's going to happen the

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Speaker 6: Well, the fan base wants changes they want, that's fair.

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Speaker 6: Let's be the fan base wants everybody out, start all

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Speaker 6: over and and go from there.

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Speaker 7: That's first and foremost. That's one priority.

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Speaker 5: Here's my it'll be interesting. I haven't looked at the

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Speaker 5: X questions yet today. I'm sure I can guess what

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Speaker 5: they are because it's been a theme the last you know,

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Speaker 5: several weeks to months. But if you like, if I

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Speaker 5: was stack ranking what the fans care about right now,

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Speaker 5: one would be change, two would be the draft, and

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Speaker 5: then three would be what happens on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Might even be further down than three.

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Speaker 5: Sudden, Well, if there's only three categories in my point,

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Speaker 5: and that's third, and if you waited those, it's sixty percent.

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Speaker 2: You know, change, thirty nine percent draft, and one percent.

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Speaker 6: I take your high on the high on the draft,

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Speaker 6: because the way that the fans look at it, the

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Speaker 6: draft won't matter unless you make changes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, maybe it's ninety percent nine and then yeah, nine

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Speaker 5: point nine percent draft and zero point one percent you know,

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Speaker 6: And I don't even know if point one percent factors

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Speaker 6: that you might not even register.

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Speaker 7: That's how bad that I can't image what the crowd

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 5: But here's this is the sad thing for me because

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Speaker 5: I mean, I even have a different perspective than you, Pete.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and I know you care about the franchise,

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Speaker 5: but I love this boll.

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Speaker 2: I do it.

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Speaker 5: So it pains me to be in the position we

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Speaker 5: are that our fan base is thinking one thing completely

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Speaker 5: on a different page than what's happening in the building

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Speaker 5: with the coaches and players. And that's the like, when

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Speaker 5: it's going good, this time of the year is the

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Speaker 5: best to be in an NFL city. When you're when

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Speaker 5: you have a good football team, you're winning, Your fans

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Speaker 5: are going crazy, they're you know, so excited, the players

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Speaker 2: Like everyone's aligned.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's the magical part of the NFL come December,

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Speaker 5: and unfortunately that's not where we are right now.

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Speaker 7: And that was a bad team they lost.

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Speaker 1: To them they lost ten in a row, Pete the r.

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Speaker 6: I mean, here's the other part of that is how

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Speaker 6: many guys. I mean, when you look, when you look

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Speaker 6: at coaches and gms over the years, how many guys

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Speaker 6: make it through on ten game losing streets streaks after

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Speaker 6: what happened last year? I mean, the ain't a lot.

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Speaker 2: So you think Antonio pierces out too.

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Speaker 6: I do. I think Brady is going to go in

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Speaker 7: And he's gonna make a change. I think that.

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Speaker 6: And and again, if you make a change and you

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Speaker 6: don't get a quarterback, it ain't gonna matter anyways. Let's

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Speaker 6: let's that's first and foremost. And they blew a great

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Speaker 6: opportunity to get a quarterback. Now, whether you believe Shador

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Speaker 6: Sanders or cam Ward is the answer. There's a clear

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Speaker 6: And so you give yourself a chance. And if you

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Speaker 6: don't get him, what are your options? Go pay Sam

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Speaker 6: Darnold fifty million dollars a year. I don't go get

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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Minnesota is gonna let you out let

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't think so either, But go get go, get go,

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Speaker 6: get Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: After don't get JJ, then when he's ready, you can't

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Speaker 1: get him if they're not gonna play him.

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Speaker 6: That's just the point, though, is if you don't get

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Speaker 6: the quarterback, I don't care who your head coach is.

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Speaker 7: If your quarterback isn't fixed, you're not winning.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, hold on, I'm gonna back up for a second.

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Speaker 5: First of all, Pete, I you're like, this is why

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Speaker 5: you're wrong on that statement, and I'm gonna use it

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Speaker 5: like a team this year and we didn't talk about this,

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Speaker 5: but let's like just act like you. I just gave

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Speaker 5: you truth serum. So you got to tell the truth here. Boy,

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Speaker 5: you got to think back to what you were thinking

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Speaker 5: at the moment beginning of the season, before one game

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Speaker 5: had been played. J. J. McCarthy's out hurt. They got

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Speaker 5: rid of Danil Hunter on defense. It looked like a

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Speaker 5: rebuild type of situation. Kevin O'Connell, I think we all

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Speaker 5: always thought it's good coach. But we thought he was

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Speaker 5: a good coach. But Sam Donald's going to be the quarterback. Pete,

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Speaker 5: how many games was Minnesota winning In Pete Pritzo's mind,

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Speaker 5: was Sam Donald's quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Eight eight?

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Speaker 2: They're thirteen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so my point is you have to have

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Speaker 5: talent at the quarterback position, and I think Sam Donald's

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Speaker 5: a talented player who's not fined. The you know who

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Speaker 5: went to the Jets. It was the disaster, the situation there.

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Speaker 5: He bounced around trying to get footing. But the bottom

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Speaker 5: line is it's not just great quarterback play.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a.

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Speaker 5: You have to have a above average, a good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a great quarterback, and you have

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Speaker 2: to have good, great coaching.

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Speaker 5: And the same thing I'll say because we all now

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Speaker 5: want to make our exciting about Jared Goffin. He's an MVP,

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Speaker 5: but like rewind the tap, two and a half years,

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Speaker 5: everyone thought that there was no chance he was going

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Speaker 5: to make it in Detroit. He started slow. He even

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Speaker 5: said himself this week he thought he was getting benched

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Speaker 7: But he had also been to a Super Bowl for

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Speaker 7: Ramsta Beat.

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Speaker 2: But I know for a fact you were done with

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Speaker 6: Went yes, I was not I I was. In fact,

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Speaker 6: I was one. I'll be honest about Sam Darnold. Never

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Speaker 6: my mind it's still there. When does it become Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 5: It's hard not to. I mean, that's human nature. I

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Speaker 5: guess my point is, Beat, I think it's not just

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Speaker 6: But you have to have for sustainable success in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: Well that's where I was gonna go, Pete. You know,

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Speaker 7: It's sloppy, just sloppy football.

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Speaker 1: And let's dig into that when we come back a

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Speaker 6: We'll keep it real.

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Speaker 8: I know, for the guys that haven't been around, it's harder,

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Speaker 8: and I've been through this stuff many times, and you

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Speaker 8: what you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: And it stinks.

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Speaker 8: I do everything in my power to scream at guys

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Speaker 8: and cuss and say let's effing go.

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Speaker 3: But here's what it is.

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Speaker 1: T Andrew Wingard got some playing time in the game

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Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony Boselli, Pete Frisco after a

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Speaker 1: Jaguars lost nineteen fourteen ugly ugly, ugly football game.

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Speaker 6: Pet By the way, he is not a happy CAMPERO.

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Speaker 6: If I was, if I was the old beat guy

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Speaker 1: He was a little salty by not being on the field.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like, well, I know what.

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Speaker 6: He's not wrong.

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Speaker 2: That was That was.

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Speaker 5: Very undooey like, because Dewey's like the consumt and like teams,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was interesting.

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Speaker 6: That was something that he has been waiting to say

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Speaker 1: He's coming off with the injury and all that, and

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Speaker 6: How long has he been off that a month?

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Speaker 5: I think he's only been back four weeks ago, right,

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Speaker 5: I think it's.

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Speaker 6: A month it's a month, but once you're cleared, that

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Speaker 2: Well wait, he played special teams beat.

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Speaker 6: But he should have been on the field.

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Speaker 5: I got a question for you too, and I'll give

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Speaker 2: How did you think do we play?

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Speaker 6: I watched the tape today. It was just.

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Speaker 2: How does it? Okay, how did do we play? Compared

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Speaker 6: Much better? I mean, but like he jumps, he comes

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Speaker 7: I get you, but it Yes, he was a much

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Speaker 6: Yes he should have been. Did you watch the tape today? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 6: he got caught it saw he jumped inside? Yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 6: but he made plays which you haven't been seeing from

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Speaker 5: Okay, am I correct that he had three pass breakups yes,

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Speaker 6: On the year.

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Speaker 1: I can probably do that. Give me a second. I

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Speaker 6: And you know you're not wrong Tony. He was active,

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Speaker 5: I just watched that and I'm like, is it just

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Speaker 2: And we've seen that in the safety position.

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Speaker 1: Cisco has seven for the year. Let's see Darnel Savage

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Speaker 6: He's safety for eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Seven eight weeks and Wingers got three. Johnson, Antonio Johnson

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Speaker 7: Yes, he should have been and he had reading the

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Speaker 6: If you come back off an injury and the guys

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Speaker 7: That's been one of the weakest spots of the team

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Speaker 2: But I was like, he messed up on the on

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Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, especially in the fourth quarter he

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Speaker 6: I think he played like sixty snaps though didn't he.

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Speaker 2: I thought he only played the second half. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: The first Oh more than that, I think. I mean,

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Speaker 7: You know, you know how I used to do Tony

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Speaker 6: Hey, you know, shouldn't you be playing? Are you ready

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Speaker 6: to play? Why do they hold you back? Hey?

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Speaker 1: By the way, it kind of feels like to me,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the first times we've heard really kind

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Speaker 2: That's I think we're saying that's the first time, and

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Speaker 2: I think you're jp.

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Speaker 5: I'm not in every open locker room and out here

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Speaker 5: I can remember what you would call a comment off

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Speaker 2: Right, by the way, that's not a shot at Doug.

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Speaker 5: Every head coach and I played for one who wanted

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Speaker 2: Players going off script, like here's the message.

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Speaker 5: Like the message was what he said in the team room,

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Speaker 2: Basically.

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Speaker 5: Now, we had a bunch of guys who went off

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Speaker 5: We did go off script at times, But that was

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Speaker 5: the first time I can remember going off like here

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Speaker 5: in a player this year go off script.

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Speaker 2: Like do he made it clear, like, hey, timing out.

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Speaker 6: There, that's what and I've been doing that all along.

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Speaker 6: Basically he is what he's saying. Here's the other thing

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Speaker 6: about it, And you got to ask your something this.

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Speaker 6: If he hadn't been hurt, would you have started this year.

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Speaker 5: I'll just say this, it's a small sample size, but

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Speaker 5: I'm based on what I saw yesterday he should be

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Speaker 5: your start and safety.

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Speaker 6: So should he start next week?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 6: I mean, what's his contract status?

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Speaker 7: This is his last year, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Before the Sea?

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Speaker 6: That's right? But how many years was it?

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Speaker 2: Three? Guess?

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Speaker 6: I got it. I thought he had maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three years nine point six.

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Speaker 6: He should be on the field, yes, because going forward

463
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Speaker 6: he's going to be a part of the team. He

464
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Speaker 6: should be on the field. So next you know how

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Speaker 6: they took Darby and sat him down, next week they

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Speaker 6: should take somebody whichever one you want to sit him down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, next year twenty five is his final year of

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Speaker 1: his contract.

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Speaker 6: Hey, JP, what do they say about Savage's injury today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Concussion protocol, So he'll be iffy for next week anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, So we'll see.

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Speaker 7: So if he's not there, Dewey should start for sure.

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Speaker 5: Well, and then you look the next year, Pete, My

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Speaker 5: guess is not looking We did this last week and

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Speaker 5: we didn't look at Savage's number. I'm sure Savage has

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Speaker 5: a pretty big dead number because he just signed if

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Speaker 5: I mean, so, Savage is going to be back up,

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying Savage doesn't deserve me back that's

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Speaker 5: not my point that the team of dead contract this one.

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Speaker 6: Here's Jacksonville team of dead contracts.

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Speaker 1: Darnell Savage. Cap hit next year four point eight million,

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Speaker 1: the dead cap ten point twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna keep him. I mean Savage. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Savage been Okay, Well, I.

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Speaker 6: Should have been playing safety the whole time, like I

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Speaker 6: said in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: Like at this point, which is disappointing because I thought

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Speaker 5: Cisco's have a big year.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he is a free agent, he's got, he's gone.

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Speaker 6: In fact, he shouldn't be on the field. Dewey should

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Speaker 6: be on the field.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, very well, and then an turn the

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Speaker 5: Johnson's back. He's a young player, very affordable contract.

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Speaker 6: He barely played yesterday, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Not much.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, would it surprise you if next year

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Speaker 5: you're starting safeties or Savage and Dewey.

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Speaker 6: No, not at all. But but Savage. Why they tried

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Speaker 6: Savage at nickel corner is the biggest mystery I've ever

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Speaker 6: seen in my entire life. But I said it all preseason.

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Speaker 7: You know, I did, I pounded, I go, he's not

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Speaker 7: a nickel corner.

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Speaker 2: You did, But Pete. He did play Nickel.

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Speaker 7: And green I get it, but that's not what he is.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you. That's what he played in green Bay.

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Speaker 7: Safety in green Bay too, a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the whole narrative last week going into

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Speaker 1: the game was, hey, brock Bauers is really good at

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Speaker 1: tight end, and he's closing in on a thousand yards

511
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Speaker 1: and could break Mike Dicker's rookie record of receiving yards

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Speaker 1: for a tight end and all this first play from

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Speaker 1: scrimmage from their own three.

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Speaker 6: He got picked on that. It was real and he

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Speaker 6: did once he got picked he barely even played the

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Speaker 6: rest of the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, he came out.

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Speaker 2: He hurt his ankle.

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Speaker 6: Was is it? Is that why he came out or

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Speaker 6: was he he got he got picked on that play

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Speaker 6: and off he went off. That Bowers is good.

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Speaker 7: Now, how about every time he needed a first down

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Speaker 7: the game?

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Speaker 1: Tight ends do huh?

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Speaker 2: He had two drops of the easy balls. He dropped

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Speaker 2: two easy balls. He made two catches off his shoe

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Speaker 2: tops on the move that were so athletic and amazing.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, he's not a great blocker, but as far

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Speaker 6: as pass catching tight ends, he might be the best

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Speaker 6: in the league right now, but they.

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Speaker 2: Don't have I mean, Michael Meyer Mayor is the is

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Speaker 2: the the blocking tight end.

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Speaker 6: But they also have a bad quarterback. I mean that

534
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Speaker 6: was like you watched that game yesterday, It was like

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Speaker 6: a how not to on the position? My god, and

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Speaker 6: you know what, And going back to Jacksonville's quarterback and

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Speaker 6: we'll get more into that, he had clean pockets all

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Speaker 6: damn day. I mean none none.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's come back.

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Speaker 2: Anton gave him a little pressure. He struggled again.

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Speaker 6: Later in the game. Though early in the game he

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Speaker 6: was okay. But later in the game, you're rady gave

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Speaker 6: up some pressures. But for the most part, and by

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Speaker 6: the way, the guy who went in at left tackle

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Speaker 6: wasn't bad.

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Speaker 5: Van Lannon has shown himself valuable and played well.

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Speaker 7: Can he play guard? No, he's not big, he's not

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Speaker 7: thick enough.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. We'll dig a little

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Speaker 1: more into this quarterback conversation that Pete would love to

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's done a good job that once again are

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Speaker 10: gonna take him away. And I missed him early. We

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Speaker 10: had the one misconnection on the hold and then he

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Speaker 10: made a couple of great plays late. So always gonna

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Speaker 10: keep fighting. He's his own biggest critic and so am I,

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Speaker 10: so we fit well together. But I think he had like,

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Speaker 10: you know, ten ten or some catches probably for one

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Speaker 10: hundred something yards.

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Speaker 1: So he did his.

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Speaker 6: Part and we got to continue to give him the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's Mac Jones Jaguars quarterback twenty five of thirty nine

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Speaker 1: through the air to forty seven a touchdown, No picks

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Speaker 1: from Mac Jones one hundred and thirty two of those

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Speaker 1: of the Jags offense yesterday, of course, Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 1: And there was some left out there. The drop ball

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Speaker 1: they had the holding call on with negated it anyway,

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Speaker 1: the double move thrown out of bounds. I mean he

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Speaker 1: was opened between the safety and corner there. Mac just

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Speaker 1: missed him. But uh, you say it every week, Pete,

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Speaker 1: this guy's a star in the making.

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Speaker 6: He's fantastic and only the tip of the iceberg. They

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Speaker 6: have their guy. You know, all the good offenses love

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Speaker 6: to have that guy because it creates so much on

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Speaker 6: the other side. You know, you look what Chase does,

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Speaker 6: and Chase is fantastic and Burrows great, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 6: But with Higgins over there, I mean it opens up

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Speaker 6: Higgins in one on one situations, and I think that's

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Speaker 6: what Thomas is going to do going forward.

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Speaker 7: I love his game, I love his competitiveness.

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Speaker 6: He does get a little frustrated when the past doesn't

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Speaker 6: come as well. Yeah right, or or or on that

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Speaker 6: one on the sidelines. His body language after that throw

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Speaker 6: wasn't great. But but you gotta love it for a

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Speaker 6: young player, and I think he's fantastic. And that is

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Speaker 6: one player who's going to be a star. And I

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Speaker 6: don't think there's any doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Pete, have you watched every top receiver in this league?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right. Oh, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 7: But he's good to that. You didn't think of your rookie,

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Speaker 7: would he does?

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Speaker 2: I think it's just I think it's an eight.

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Speaker 6: It comes with the position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, tell me one alpha dog that when

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Speaker 5: he doesn't get the ball or isn't thrown right, that

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Speaker 5: gives you like warm and fuzzies afterwards.

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Speaker 6: Like I always used to say. And I love him

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Speaker 6: to death, and he's one of the best receiver coaches

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Speaker 6: in the league. If Keenan had three for twenty eight

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Speaker 6: and you won, he was not nearly as happy as

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Speaker 6: he was when he had eight thirty two. I'm telling you, and.

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Speaker 7: John O'shaw will back it up for me. And don't

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Speaker 7: get me wrong, he love.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about like a day after, not right after

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Speaker 6: the game, but a day later.

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Speaker 7: Come on, Tony, that's he's just a receiver in him.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Keenan was never covered his whole career.

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Speaker 2: He was always open.

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Speaker 6: Ask It's so great. It's so great to watch him

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Speaker 6: now though, Like yesterday, Jefferson had a touchdown and got

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Speaker 6: an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for celebration, and I watched Keenan

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Speaker 6: go over there and give him like the old man lecture.

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Speaker 6: Come on, Keenan. But as it is, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: Every receiver in the league. I don't care who they are.

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Speaker 6: They want the ball and they cry about not getting

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Speaker 6: the ball.

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Speaker 2: What's what's Brian Thomas's Ian Thomas Junior's ceiling.

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Speaker 6: Pete right there with Chase and Jefferson right below him.

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Speaker 6: I think right there because those two are in there,

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Speaker 6: they're in special, special, special category. He's right right below them.

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Speaker 6: I think it has it Theyn't get me wrong. With

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Speaker 6: hard work and better offense and a better quarterback play,

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Speaker 6: he can be there. But right now I think his

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Speaker 6: ceiling is right below that, which is special.

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Speaker 5: By the way, what I am interested to see because

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Speaker 5: my takeaway those other guys is that they.

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Speaker 2: Are hard workers too.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying I'm not saying Brian Thomas Junior

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Speaker 5: is it. But the next test for him is between

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Speaker 5: year one and year two, does he go do the

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Speaker 5: work to be a great player, Because we've seen a

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Speaker 5: lot of guys do it for one year, but the

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Speaker 5: really good ones and the great ones do a year

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Speaker 5: in and year out.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's in the next step. Tony is now that

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Speaker 6: everybody knows he's that guy. How do you handle the

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Speaker 6: double how do you handle the physical play?

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Speaker 7: How do you handle over.

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Speaker 6: The top safeties and getting mugged at the line of scrimping?

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Speaker 6: That's all the great ones learned to handle it. The

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Speaker 6: ones that fall off are the ones that flash, don't

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Speaker 6: put the work in and never learn how to handle it.

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Speaker 7: And so you're right to that degree.

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Speaker 6: And now when you're an alpha receiver, you're gonna get

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Speaker 6: all the extra attention and you got to learn how

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Speaker 6: to handle it. And and from everything I heard, and

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Speaker 6: this is the second hand story I was told from

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Speaker 6: miss days at LSU. Neighbors was the worker Thomas wasn't.

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Speaker 6: When he first got there, they were very good friends.

666
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Speaker 6: They looked around. He said, hey, if he's getting all

667
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Speaker 6: attention and catching all those passes and doing what he's doing,

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Speaker 6: I better get my butt doing the same exact thing.

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Speaker 7: And he did, and that's why he got better and

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Speaker 7: better and better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know Brian well enough.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's obviously just the rookie. But there's nothing

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Speaker 5: that I have seen that would make me think he's

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Speaker 5: not going to be a worker and do what it thinks.

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Speaker 5: It's just that's the next step, that's the evolution for

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Speaker 5: him as a NFL player, to build on this tremendous

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Speaker 5: franchise wrecker setting rookie year.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's been You redrafted the draft right now,

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Speaker 6: and wide receivers went in order. You still might take

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Speaker 6: Neighbors ahead of him. You're not taking Marvin Harrison over him.

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Speaker 6: You're not taking Rome with Dounsday over him.

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Speaker 2: No, he would be the first or second receiver off

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Speaker 2: the board.

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Speaker 6: Correct, correct, which is by the way I actually the

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Speaker 6: way I had it ranked was Neighbors. I like Thomas second,

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Speaker 6: and I didn't love Harrison. You remember that because I

687
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Speaker 6: didn't think he ran that well, and I don't think

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Speaker 6: he's as sudden as these guys. These guys are sudden.

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Speaker 6: Brian Thomas is sudden when he gets that, when he

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Speaker 6: gets the ball in his hands, he's going, He's going, man,

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Speaker 6: that's going. Well.

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Speaker 2: He has an extra gear that, yeah, very few have.

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Speaker 1: Can we uh? Can we get back to the quarterback play? Yesterday?

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Speaker 6: I was to go upstairs. Where are you upstairs or

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Speaker 6: you downstairs at your house? I'm downstairs, Okay, go upstairs,

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Speaker 6: and you should make or go wherever the kitchen is

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Speaker 6: and make a sandwich, because that's what your trade that

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Speaker 6: you were going to get.

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Speaker 7: You were going to make a trade for mac Jones

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Speaker 7: a couple.

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Speaker 6: Of weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what you want to put it between it?

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Speaker 6: What do you got?

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Speaker 7: I got any turkey or roast beef or something?

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Speaker 6: Come on, I think that's still one of the great

706
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 6: things about was it two months ago?

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Speaker 5: The season at the beginning of the seasons.

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Speaker 6: Just refreshed for everybody. What did you say?

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna repeat it because I was wrong, but I.

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Speaker 7: Bring that up every Sunday when we're sitting in our

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Speaker 7: green room.

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Speaker 6: I bring up with you. Everybody starts, well.

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Speaker 2: I hope you bring up after that. You know you're

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Speaker 2: will Lemis take.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'll believe me. I get non stop for that,

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Speaker 6: and deservedly so. And but again mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: I just thought he was better. Pete.

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Speaker 7: I don't sometimes I don't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He he leaves clean pockets too much. And you know

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Speaker 2: what the biggest thing that jumps out of me, Pete

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Speaker 2: when there's no pressure, even he doesn't go through his

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Speaker 2: whole progression, he like.

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Speaker 6: He throws it into the dirt at the foot of

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Speaker 6: the guy. He goes to his first like he never

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Speaker 6: And I'll give you one. And you probably saw this.

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Speaker 6: He threw one got to the right. I can't remember

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Speaker 6: who it was, but he had Strange. If he comes

728
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Speaker 6: back off his progression, I think he bailed on the play.

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Speaker 6: But he comes back he has Strange wide open on

730
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Speaker 6: it and Strange has his hand up. Do you remember

731
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Speaker 6: that one down the sideline. It's a touchdown. But he

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Speaker 6: never goes there. He stays on his first progression, or

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Speaker 6: he bails. It's it's that simple. And when he does bail,

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Speaker 6: it's you know, the only time he really made a

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Speaker 6: play when he bailed was late in the game when

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Speaker 6: he kept his head up and threw that one down there.

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Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, that was a good play. But everything

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Speaker 6: is it's herky jerky. Is that the I mean, there's

739
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 6: nothing smooth about it, you know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Peter's feet are all over the place.

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Speaker 6: Bad bad, It's almost like and I thought the protection

742
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 6: was pretty good on Sunday. It was fine.

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Speaker 2: It was NFL. It was fine. It's gonna be I mean,

744
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: it's gonna be muddied at times.

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Speaker 5: But and I had thought Pete and I don't know,

746
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: maybe this is a result of you know, the.

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00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: End in New England. But Matt Jones is not a

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: top level athlete. Like he's not. He's a pocket quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And I thought he would be a guy who'd sit

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Speaker 5: in the pocket, work the pocket.

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Speaker 2: And you know, and make throws down feel and he's not.

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Speaker 2: He gets out of there way quicker than.

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Speaker 6: And then he puts a lot of passes that aren't

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Speaker 6: in play. Yeah, I mean, give a guy a chance,

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Speaker 6: you know, he doesn't give him chances. Look, let's be real,

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Speaker 6: he's not the difference between him and Bethard ain't that much.

757
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Speaker 7: Not and you know, as a Jacksonville kid, you'd like to.

758
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Speaker 6: See him succeed.

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Speaker 2: But I'm rooting hard for him.

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Speaker 6: He's a backup quarterback in the national football they got.

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Speaker 2: I think that's right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think the difference between him and Bethro

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Speaker 5: I think Bethann's better at going through progressions.

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Speaker 2: Bethri just doesn't have the arm right.

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Speaker 5: Strength and and Mac is a better arm than Bethor,

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Speaker 5: but doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Go through the progression like Bethrin does.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there were times where you sit there and

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Speaker 6: you go, I don't know what he's why he's get leaving.

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Speaker 6: Just stay there, stay there, stay there. They don't and

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Speaker 6: and look, you can get be guilty of holding the

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Speaker 6: ball too.

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Speaker 7: Long and staying there. He didn't even any close to that.

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Speaker 7: He's out of there right away.

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Speaker 6: And it's not like, okay, if you if you were

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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels and you were getting out of there, that's one.

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Speaker 6: That's another story. Because you can move with Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 6: He can't move, like you said, what are you moving to?

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Speaker 2: Even Trevor. Trevor's an athlete.

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Speaker 6: He can run and do stuff, and Trevor leaves pockets

781
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 6: too soon too.

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Speaker 5: I agree, but I had thought coming into this season. Okay,

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Speaker 5: if Mack has to play, he's gonna be more of

784
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Speaker 5: a pocket passers.

785
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Speaker 2: And hang in there you go.

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Speaker 5: You know, you gotta give him some time, but he's

787
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 5: gonna work the pocket and he just doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think he's Sam Donald or Baker Mayfield

789
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Speaker 6: two point up.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment thing.

791
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Speaker 2: Bete what a year ago? Two years ago?

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Speaker 5: No, everyone thought Sam Donald was nothing but a backup,

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Speaker 5: and now he's someone's gonna pay him fifty million bucks.

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Speaker 6: A true, Yeah, it's true. I don't think he's getting

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Speaker 6: fifty million.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's get forty.

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Speaker 6: He'll get he'll get what Baker got thirty five ish.

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Speaker 1: That's not a jump change, that's for sure. Let's come back.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the penalties yesterday. We'll get to these

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Speaker 1: are many right next to the coal. There's some lumps

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Speaker 1: of coal over this place right now. Unfortunately, Jags issues

815
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Speaker 1: yesterday they were many. But I mean, I'm sitting here, Pete,

816
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at this sequence of penalties. First off,

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Speaker 1: Eric Armstead was off side twice in a row. They

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Speaker 1: were both declined because of the long passes on him.

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Speaker 1: And then in the second quarter Las Vegas back to

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Speaker 1: have back to back off side from heinz Allen and

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker. They could have had more than that. What

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Speaker 1: in the world.

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Speaker 6: Happened bad football for both teams and bad teams.

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Speaker 7: That's what happened. When you're a bad team, you do

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Speaker 7: stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Pete, I.

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Speaker 5: Said during the broadcast, because Frank and Jeff and I

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Speaker 5: were look at each other up to that little sequence,

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Speaker 5: and I just said, this is what you get when

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Speaker 5: you have two teams with double digit losses playing each other.

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Speaker 2: It kind of is what it is.

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Speaker 7: Here's the other part of it.

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Speaker 6: It what you were talking about, situational and coaching and everything.

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Speaker 6: What happened at the two minute warning? Do you remember

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Speaker 6: the time out at the two minute warning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: The first sat The first I think was the clock

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Speaker 5: because I don't think they were going to run out

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Speaker 5: of play clock.

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Speaker 7: Were they because it was looked like it was synced.

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Speaker 5: I think it was the second behind, or like three

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Speaker 5: quarters of the second behind, So I think it would have.

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Speaker 7: See on the broadcast they said it wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Really it was really close, Pete, like really really close,

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Speaker 5: And so I think that.

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Speaker 6: Doug just, I mean, again, not great the way you

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Speaker 6: handle that. Why do you let it go down like

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Speaker 6: that even in that situation. I mean, you're clearly trying

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Speaker 6: to get that playoff before the two minute warning. So

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Speaker 6: why why allowed to even get close to that?

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just they're just you could there's a

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Speaker 7: laundry list of.

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Speaker 6: Stuff every week that you can look at, the busts

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Speaker 6: in the secondary, the dumb penalties, the hold on the

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Speaker 6: fourth on the fourth down run or the third was that? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the fourth down run? Did you did you think he

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Speaker 6: held him? He grabbed a little bit, maybe, but that

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Speaker 6: that's sometimes that one's not.

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Speaker 5: Called his hands are outside the body right under. So

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Speaker 5: by the rule of the law, the letter of the law,

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Speaker 5: I should say that's a penalty. And I will say

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Speaker 5: this year, Pete, they are calling holding much tighter than

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Speaker 5: they have in the past.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. But and in reality was it didn't have a

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Speaker 6: lot to do with that run. I didn't think that

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Speaker 6: guy wasn't gonna get there anyways.

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Speaker 2: I didn't find I thought it was a ticki tack call.

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Speaker 5: But by the letter of the law, you can't have

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Speaker 5: your hands outside.

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Speaker 6: But look at the bright side, it set the set

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Speaker 6: the stage for the checkdown on fourth and twenty or

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Speaker 6: whatever it.

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Speaker 2: Was, fourth and eleven.

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Speaker 6: Fourth, What are you doing here here, Johnson? Jaronis, go

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Speaker 6: get it Darren's Johnson. Go get it, Go get yourself

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Speaker 6: eleven yards.

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Speaker 2: But that was enough. Now.

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Speaker 5: Doug said in his pressure today that they dropped soft coverage,

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Speaker 5: which I would agree watching it. However, there wasn't immediate

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Speaker 5: pressure where he had to get there, like you have

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Speaker 5: to let guys work and try to influence them with

883
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 5: your eyes.

884
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: Let it.

885
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Speaker 7: If he had let him work, he'd had something in

886
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Speaker 7: the middle.

887
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Speaker 5: On the back I thought on the backside he could

888
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 5: have stuck it in the Parker Washington, or he didn't

889
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Speaker 5: go there. I think it was Brenton Strange was about

890
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Speaker 5: eight yards right over the middle, and I give Brenton

891
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty chance. You know he could run through

892
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Speaker 5: one tackle to get to the eleven.

893
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Speaker 6: Well, of all the choices he made, that's the worst

894
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Speaker 6: one he made.

895
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Speaker 5: It he made the most difficult. I would rather have

896
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Speaker 5: him push the ball down the field and if it's intercepted,

897
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Speaker 5: it's intercepted.

898
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Speaker 6: It I agree. I'm behind you. I thought it was

899
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 6: a terrible play.

900
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Speaker 2: I did not understand.

901
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Speaker 5: It wasn't rush, it wasn't like pressure in his face,

902
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: like he just he I just looked and it's like, okay,

903
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Speaker 5: it's not there.

904
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Speaker 2: Chuck down. I'm like, whoa, it's fourth and eleven. The

905
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Speaker 2: game is in the line. You can't do that. I mean,

906
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Speaker 2: if you're gonna do that, throw it the brain the

907
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: strange in the middle of field and give him a

908
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Speaker 2: chance to run over one person to get eleven yards.

909
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Speaker 6: It would have been interesting had they not had the

910
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 6: holding penalty from there though. Sure, yes, I think the

911
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 6: ball would have come down from from above. They let

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Speaker 6: him go. Now, let them.

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Speaker 1: Got you talked about.

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Speaker 5: I mean, here's the reality of this game. They scored

915
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Speaker 5: on the open drive. Seven No, not the opening drive.

916
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Speaker 2: They scored? When did they? They did not?

917
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Speaker 11: One?

918
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Speaker 2: They scored on the short field.

919
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Speaker 1: After the Jaguars scored on the short field the punt

920
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Speaker 1: return and the hit out of bounds started at twenty

921
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Speaker 1: nine yard Say it again that late first quarter, minute

922
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: thirty to go in the first quarter.

923
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they scored that touchdown late first quarter on

924
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Speaker 5: a short field. They got the ball at the thirty

925
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Speaker 5: five after the penalty and the return, and so besides that,

926
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Speaker 5: the only other points they got was a busted coverage.

927
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Speaker 1: Correct, that's it.

928
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Speaker 2: And so I get that they're saying, you know, yes,

929
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Speaker 2: I would.

930
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Speaker 5: Have it, have been interesting to see if they didn't

931
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Speaker 5: get that holding penalty and got the first down, what

932
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Speaker 5: would have happened.

933
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Speaker 2: But if you looked at the course of the game,

934
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Speaker 2: they had not moved the ball at all.

935
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Speaker 7: And that was a terrible play by Jones on that play.

936
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Speaker 6: I don't know what he was doing. He had a

937
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 6: rough go of it. But and you know that was

938
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Speaker 6: he didn't even have to make a move, He just

939
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Speaker 6: ran by him.

940
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Speaker 2: It was a bust of coverage.

941
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Speaker 5: I mean, Jack Jones is playing some sort of underneath

942
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Speaker 5: zone with no help over the top.

943
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Speaker 6: Now, he was fifteen yards the one he dropped. He

944
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 6: made a good move on that one.

945
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he just ran by him and that

946
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Speaker 2: was man coverage. He just beat him.

947
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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm not.

948
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Speaker 2: Sure why you're putting Jack Jones man to man against

949
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Speaker 2: too little.

950
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, let's come back. One hour down, one hour

951
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: to go. But addics fan questions coming up in just

952
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Speaker 1: a little bit after Jaguars lost to the Raiders. This

953
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Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 4: We did have some injuries at the end of the

955
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 4: season last year. I know Trevor wasn't completely you know,

956
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 4: one hundred percent towards the end of the season last year.

957
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: Obviously he's out this year, missing more weapons on offense,

958
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 4: you know, and so it's just a it's it's a

959
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: tough situation to be in. But at the same time, listen,

960
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna make you know,

961
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Speaker 4: excuses for it.

962
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: And you know, we we we.

963
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Speaker 2: Are who we are and in.

964
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Speaker 4: Right now we're just haven't and and really for you know,

965
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: this season, we haven't been consistent enough in our play,

966
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: you know, on the field, and so we all take

967
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: responsibility and it's something we got to look hard at

968
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Speaker 4: and try to try to fix.

969
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Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Peterson Today the full press conference available

970
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube. Welcome Back Hour

971
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: two of Jaguars Half Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.

972
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Before the game, after the game, and during the game.

973
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: We're on ten toon xcel Am, Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube.

974
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: After a Jaguars lost to the Raiders nineteen to fourteen

975
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: and ugly football game all around, the Jags offense struggled again,

976
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: had two touchdowns, one on a short field, one on

977
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Speaker 1: a blown coverage didn't do anything else really the rest

978
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Speaker 1: of the day to giveaways in the first half, put

979
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Speaker 1: the ball on the deck twice. The Jags defense allowed

980
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: big plays to the Raiders, including tight end Brock Powers

981
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: on the first play of the game on defense and

982
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Speaker 1: just continued throughout the day five plays all out of

983
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Speaker 1: seventeen or more yards and yesterday's game and the Raiders

984
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: snapped a ten game losing skid with a winner with

985
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who are now three and twelve, two games

986
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: to go home against the Titans, rode against the Colts,

987
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: and a chance to sweep the season series against both

988
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: of those teams. With the Jaguars, those are two of

989
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: the three wins this year, and that's where we are.

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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, Tony Wasiscelli, Pete Prisco. It's Christmas week. Merry Christmas, guys,

991
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: how are.

992
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: You Merry Christmas? Merry Christmas.

993
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: You know you talked about those two games coming up,

994
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: that those are two of the three wins we have.

995
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 5: But you're gonna see different teams, and we faced the

996
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 5: Titans are gonna have Mason Rudolph. They're much more effective

997
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 5: offensively even without Pete's franchise quarterback.

998
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 6: They really are, because the rating is the same and

999
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 6: their turnovers are the same, and he won.

1000
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 7: That good yesterday. That team stinks.

1001
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you're better. I'd rather let me put

1002
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: it this way.

1003
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 5: You're asking me who I'd rather face this week, and

1004
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 5: rather face Will Levis, and.

1005
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Speaker 7: Maybe he should play because the Jaguars need to lose

1006
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 7: that game.

1007
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Speaker 2: Is playing.

1008
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying that that's you'd rather face Mason Rudolph

1009
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 6: to lose the game.

1010
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's all if you are losing. Yeah, and

1011
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: then a circle speed, get me spin it like a

1012
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: top heat right there.

1013
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 5: And then the Colts have Anthony Richardson as a quarterback.

1014
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: We did not face him the first time, so there's

1015
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: a run threat with him. They're not a passing team

1016
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: with him back there, but they run the ball effectively,

1017
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 5: and and Jonathan Taylor is a really good back.

1018
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 6: When the Colts look back on the season, if they

1019
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 6: don't make the playoffs, they're going to look back on

1020
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Speaker 6: that game they lost to Jacksonville and say, oh, no,

1021
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 6: how the hell did that happen? Because there they'd be

1022
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 6: smack dab. In fact, I think if they won that game,

1023
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: they'd be the they'd be the final team in the

1024
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Speaker 6: playoffs right now, they.

1025
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Speaker 7: Can still get in.

1026
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 6: They could still get in.

1027
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: They didn't help their own destiny. If they won that game.

1028
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 6: Correct and and or they would control their own destiny.

1029
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 6: Johnathan Deller didn't drop the ball, look.

1030
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Speaker 5: Back and dropping of the ball crossing the bowl and denver,

1031
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: they would have won that game. They control their own

1032
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 5: destiny as well. So they're still in it. We'll see

1033
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Speaker 5: after this week. Who do the Colts have this week?

1034
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 7: They play at the Giants.

1035
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they're going to be Is there any way

1036
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 5: they can get eliminated with the win this week?

1037
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: Pete?

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Speaker 6: I think if the Broncos win, they get eliminated because

1039
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 6: they would have this. Wait, what's the Broncos record.

1040
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: Broncos are nine and six, so they're two games up

1041
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: on them.

1042
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

1043
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, so if the Broncos win, they're eliminated.

1044
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: That's right.

1045
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: And the Broncos play the Bengals not an easy game.

1046
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 6: Well, correct, and the Bengals are still alive by the way, yep,

1047
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 6: the Bengals have a checklist of things they need to happen.

1048
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: If the Bengals beat the Broncos and the Colts lose

1049
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 6: one more and the Dolphins lose one more and the

1050
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Speaker 6: Bengals win the last week and the Chiefs beat the Broncos,

1051
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 6: then there they win that they get in the playoffs. Nobody,

1052
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: Let's put this way. You'd rather have the Broncos in

1053
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 6: the playoffs and the Bengals in the playoffs. If you're

1054
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 6: a DAFC team, you.

1055
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Speaker 5: Don't want to play Joe Burrow and Jamorrow, Chase and

1056
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 5: t and that group and that Chase Brown's playing out

1057
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: of his.

1058
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: Mind right now.

1059
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: What about the Chargers? Peat Chargers are nine and six.

1060
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: What if they lose out? I mean, they're not guaranteed.

1061
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Speaker 6: Yeah right, I mean, look, there's a bunch of possibilities,

1062
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 6: but I do think that that the you know, look,

1063
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 6: if Denver loses two, here's the thing about the Bengals

1064
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 6: this week, they almost have to root for the Steelers

1065
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 6: because if the Chiefs beat the Steelers, they clinched the

1066
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 6: number one seed and they won't play people the last

1067
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 6: week of the season against Denver.

1068
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need That's exactly right. You need Pittsford to

1069
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: win if you're if you're a Bengals.

1070
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Speaker 6: Fan, right and so and.

1071
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: And same with the Colts. The Colts want the Steelers

1072
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: to win.

1073
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 5: Correct, it's in me wild, but yeah, I guess my

1074
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: bigger point is different teams than we faced earlier in

1075
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 5: the season, just because of the quarterback situation on both

1076
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 5: for both teams.

1077
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and and they seem to be like the Titans

1078
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 6: seemed to be going off the cliff too.

1079
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 7: I mean that game.

1080
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Speaker 6: I don't know, you didn't you see the final score

1081
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 6: that game was thirty to seven at one point? Yeah,

1082
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 6: I mean.

1083
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 7: It just they looked awful.

1084
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 6: They look lifeless. Yeah, garbage time stuff. It was never

1085
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 6: really a threat. I didn't think. But you know how,

1086
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 6: sometimes the team gets hot and they start coming back

1087
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 6: and things happened. But Jonathan Taylor ran for over two

1088
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 6: hundred yards and three touchdowns. He made up for No,

1089
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 6: he didn't, No, he didn't.

1090
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Speaker 1: Time now for oh go ahead, Pete.

1091
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 6: Sorry, No, I was gonna say. We got to talk

1092
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 6: a little bit about the defense too.

1093
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, in Jacksonville, lead us, Pete, where do you want

1094
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 5: to go to the defense?

1095
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: I got a lot of thoughts.

1096
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Well, let's let's make this keeping it real.

1097
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: Presented by Nobody and Nobody, uh still Week seventeen, Nobody defense.

1098
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: Let's keep it real.

1099
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 6: What do he got, Pete, Well, I will say that

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Speaker 6: I thought the rookie tackle made some plays. Yes, I

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00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 6: thought he made some plays. He got some pushed in

1102
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 6: the pocket, showed up and I gets pushed around a

1103
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 6: little bit in the run game.

1104
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: Maybe he made some nice plays in the run game too.

1105
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 6: The ones right at him. He gets pushed back. Sometimes

1106
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 6: he gets blown off the ball. But but you're right,

1107
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 6: he made some plays in the run game. I thought

1108
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 6: he made some plays in the passing game.

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, sack three tackles, sack two tackles for loss pass defense, and.

1110
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 6: I think he's going to be really good.

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00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: I get my biggest disappointment of this of this defense,

1112
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: I didn't think either end impacted the game at all.

1113
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 6: And that's not a eight group of tackles. I mean

1114
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 6: they're good. Colt Miller is a pretty good player. But

1115
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 6: the other guy on the other side of the rookie.

1116
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 5: And I thought, I watching the tape of the Raiders,

1117
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, Josh and Trey von Agram Big Days

1118
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 5: did not and they did not. That was the biggest

1119
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 5: disappointment for me. Yeah, everything else nothing surprised me.

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00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 6: Well, Armstead got a sack while he was lined up

1121
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 6: as an inside that.

1122
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that?

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00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1124
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 7: So did you like what the rookie did to Tony?

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought it was his best game of the year.

1126
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 6: Yeah. He actually was getting some power moves and stuff

1127
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 6: and he lifted guys off. I think he's got a chance.

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00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 6: Hamilton the last two weeks has actually looked better.

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1130
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: How about the other young guy? Myles Cole.

1131
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 7: Made a couple of plays. You know, made a play

1132
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 7: where he beat the tight end on the one run

1133
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 7: play that.

1134
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: Was beat brought Bowers on the inside that was played.

1135
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 6: By him, and then he beat Miller on a rush

1136
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 6: wants to get a hurry.

1137
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 7: Remember when he came around the corner.

1138
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: He called the hold on it. It was a phantom

1139
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: hold in my opinion, I don't.

1140
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 6: Think it was a hold either, but he beat him.

1141
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 6: But again, you know some of those Here's the thing,

1142
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 6: when you look at that defensive line. If you have

1143
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 6: a four man front next year, which is probably gonna

1144
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 6: have because most people do. But if you have a

1145
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 6: four man front Alan Walker Smith and a draft pick,

1146
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 6: because I personally think if we get asked this question

1147
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 6: a lot, who they should draft, what they should draft,

1148
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 6: and I know people like the pretty and Travis Hunter

1149
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 6: and that guy and this guy me. I would take

1150
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 6: the kid from Michigan and put him right there in

1151
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 6: the middle of that line and say, I have my

1152
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 6: four now, and now I can do so many different

1153
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 6: things because I have four of them, four guys, four

1154
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 6: guys who could do different things. And that'll give me

1155
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 6: my big guys up front, and now I can do

1156
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 6: different things and find guys in the back end and

1157
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 6: find another corner, because I.

1158
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 7: Think that changes the way you play.

1159
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 6: If you have four guys who are good upfront, a

1160
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 6: it's hard to double anybody, and I think that that

1161
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 6: changes the way you play on defense. It's the old

1162
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 6: Jimmy Johnson thing. If you have four guys who can rush,

1163
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 6: push the pocket, or four guys who were good getting

1164
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 6: after the quarterback, you don't need to be great on

1165
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 6: the back end.

1166
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 5: Well, here's a couple of before we get to the draft.

1167
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're playing, let's assume you're four to three.

1168
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 5: First thing I'm doing is talking to Eric Armstead saying

1169
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: you were playing defensive tackle in sub.

1170
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 6: Next year, that's the one as a backup.

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, a rotational player, Okay, I would go get another speed.

1172
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 5: I think I would have Josh Allen Heinz Allen lose

1173
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 5: get back to the way he was last year.

1174
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: I think we go. I would also.

1175
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: Find another speed rusher, more speed on the outside, I

1176
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 5: would too, And the third down I'd kick Trayvon. I

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 5: would play Tradeon inside and outside.

1178
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 6: Well, we've been pushing that for for how long now?

1179
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: Yep?

1180
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 5: And then as far as the draft, here's my question

1181
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 5: for you, Pete. Wherever we're picking the kid from Michigan

1182
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: fifty five.

1183
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 6: And I know what his name is, Mason Graham.

1184
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: Mason Graham and Travis Hunter on the board. Who you

1185
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: picking Graham?

1186
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 6: Me, I'm taking Graham. I think you can find a corner.

1187
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 6: I think you could find a receiver whatever you want

1188
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 6: to play him at. You can find those guys. Find

1189
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 6: the guys who can impact the game on your defensive

1190
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 6: and offensive line are so hard to find.

1191
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: Can he rush the passer?

1192
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 6: Yes?

1193
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Yes, high school wrestler is it.

1194
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 6: He's relentless. He's relentless.

1195
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 7: He would bring an at you know.

1196
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 6: Yeah. I love guys that show emotion everything. That's one

1197
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 6: thing I noticed on Sunday. Guys make plays and nobody

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 6: gives them anything. There's no jumping around, there's no emotion

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00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 6: at all. They're the most I think I've ever seen

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 6: in my life. There's nothing. You're a rookie. That's his

1201
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 6: first sack, right that that that was.

1202
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: His second second.

1203
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 6: But go celebrate it, jump up and down, show some emotion.

1204
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 6: Am I wrong? You would think the veterans would like

1205
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: be so thrilled to see a young kid getting a

1206
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 6: sack in a game like that. There was nothing, zero made.

1207
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: He did a nice little shimmy little dance.

1208
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 5: Yeah he did.

1209
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 7: But you know what I mean.

1210
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 6: And and you know there's over the top celebrations and

1211
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 6: celebrating a tackle when a guy gets eighteen yards and

1212
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 6: standing up when your team's down, you know, twenty eight

1213
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 6: to nothing. But when he got made that play, the

1214
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 6: game was close, big play early. Go celebrate him, jump around,

1215
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 6: you know.

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01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's by the way, the same for the Armstead

1217
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: one too.

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 6: Yes, talk smack to the other team, talk smack to

1219
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 6: the other offensive lineman. There's nothing. It's robotic, it's lifeless.

1220
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 6: It just it looks checked out. That's what it looked like.

1221
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: I remember the seventeen team and all those sacks. I

1222
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: mean those guys would celebrate just walking on the field.

1223
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 6: I mean, they probably went above and beyond right.

1224
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: But they deserved it. They were that good.

1225
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: They were like, you know what it is he it

1226
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: does look like anyone's having fun.

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01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 6: No fun. No.

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01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 5: The two things that jump out of me this overall

1229
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 5: this year the urgency at the start of games, like

1230
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: just the passionate urgency coming out and having fun.

1231
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: And it's a hard game and it's hard to have

1232
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: fun clear three and twelve. I get that.

1233
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 5: But you got to create your own emotion, your own

1234
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 5: energy as a player. And when guys make plays, you

1235
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 5: gotta enjoy it. You got to enjoy the big plays,

1236
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 5: the exciting stuff and celebrate.

1237
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 6: Did you notice that too?

1238
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 7: Am I the only one that notice?

1239
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: I've noticed it all year?

1240
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just they don't. There's no jumping around and

1241
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 6: and and team celebrations and enjoying each other and and

1242
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 6: you know, talking smack and it just looks lifeless to me.

1243
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 6: And I hate that. I can't stand that. I the

1244
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 6: game is an emotional game. You have to show it.

1245
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 6: And a guy makes a play, go go rally to him.

1246
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 6: You know, it's just it's it's to me, it's it's

1247
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 6: a bad look.

1248
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Here you have it, keeping it real, presented by nobody

1249
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: back in a moment. Oh year, Oh here, I don't.

1250
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: There's a want.

1251
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 7: Where's the sales department?

1252
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1253
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: Holiday, I guess well the fanatics fan questions when we

1254
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: come back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by mister Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shaddick, Tony Boselli,

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01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: and Pete Priscoe after a Jaguars lost to the Las

1257
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders nineteen fourteen. Jaguars three and twelve, currently third

1258
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: in the projected draft order for twenty twenty five according

1259
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Speaker 1: to tankathon dot com. If you're into that, they this

1260
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: particular website works to strength the schedule out the rest

1261
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: of the season. And so the Jaguars currently third in

1262
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: their draft order, Giants and Patriots ahead of them, Titans,

1263
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: Brown's Raiders all at three and twelve, and then the Panthers, Jets, Bears,

1264
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: and Saints. That's a lot to look forward to in

1265
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: the offseason. We so this is our draft talk. We

1266
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: always drop talk a little draft just to appease Pete

1267
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: in this show, and this checking the box before Christmas.

1268
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: JP and Pete would be safe to say.

1269
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 5: If we lose out, we need the Patriots to lose

1270
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 5: one game to get to the two spot.

1271
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: We need the Giants to lose two games to get

1272
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: to the one spot. That packered.

1273
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 5: I don't know what the Strangth schedules for the Giants,

1274
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: but I'm assuming that's what.

1275
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 6: Well, and okay, the Giants have the Colts and then

1276
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 6: the Eagles on the road. Now, well, the Eagles need

1277
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 6: the game, probably because for the one seed. Try to

1278
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 6: get the one seed after what happened yesterday, So so.

1279
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 7: The Giants are going to lose two games probably.

1280
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 5: I don't have but Pete, I don't think the Eagles

1281
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 5: can get the one seed if the Lions win next

1282
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 5: week because didn't the the.

1283
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 6: Vikings the last game the season, So could end up

1284
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 6: that the winner of that game gets the one seed.

1285
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: That my Sunday night football game that might be the

1286
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: last game of the season.

1287
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 5: I guess My point is, but the Eagles will be

1288
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 5: out of it regardless is my point?

1289
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 6: It could be, yes, but like if Minnesota lost to

1290
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 6: green Bay this week and green Bay still chant, that

1291
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 6: was still chance. But yeah, but if either way the

1292
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 6: Giants probably aren't gonna Giants are playing backups as it

1293
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 6: is now, They're probably not gonna beat the backup Eagles,

1294
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 6: so they're probably gonna lose too. Straight, they'll have the

1295
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 6: number one pick, the first overall pick. Then the Patriots play,

1296
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 6: I mean, they play the Chargers this week at home,

1297
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 6: and they close out with who Buffalo?

1298
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: He played Buffalo?

1299
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 7: They played playing again the last week last three ye

1300
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 7: So but again.

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 6: Does Buffalo gonna the game?

1302
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 5: Probably probably not, because if they're two behind the Chiefs now.

1303
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 6: Right, if the Chiefs, if the Chiefs win Wednesday, If

1304
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 6: the Chiefs win Wednesday, Buffalo is locked in as as

1305
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 6: the two yep, So if that happens, right, aren't they

1306
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 6: they have how many losses they have? They have three

1307
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: and the North winner has five five and they beat

1308
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 6: the Race and they lost to the Ravens though, so

1309
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 6: it could be. But but as it probably all likelihood,

1310
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 6: they won't need to win, and so New England could

1311
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 6: win that last game Jacksonville loses two and they end

1312
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 6: up with the number one overall pick.

1313
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: Let's say we stay at three or.

1314
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 6: The number two overall pick.

1315
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 5: So let's say that the order states as is Okay,

1316
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 5: the Giants are gonna take a quarterback.

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: And so are the and so are the Patriots are

1318
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: not but.

1319
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 6: They would trade out of there, and somebody would go

1320
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 6: up to get that pick.

1321
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: Why would they traded the Patriots? Why wouldn't they trade

1322
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: with us?

1323
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 6: Oh and tell yeah they could. Yeah, you're right, Well,

1324
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 6: you know how that works. Somebody could be worried that

1325
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 6: the big you know, and the Patriots are going to

1326
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 6: make a deal. You know how that works. So yeah,

1327
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 6: there'd probably be the Patriots to trade out of there,

1328
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 6: and then you'd be sitting there at number three.

1329
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 5: So at number three we stay in this order, and

1330
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 5: number three, most likely we'll have the best non quarterback

1331
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 5: player available to us.

1332
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 6: Correct, because there's not another quarterback that somebody's going to

1333
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 6: go up and get right. So your choice would probably

1334
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 6: be between Hunter Graham, Graham, and I'll throw another name

1335
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 6: in there, Abdul Carter from Penn State State. The pass rusher,

1336
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 6: explosive dynamic and you look at it and you say, well,

1337
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 6: where would he play? Well, that goes to your old theory, Tony,

1338
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 6: getting another guy that can can influence the quarterback and

1339
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 6: move and Walker inside. Yeah, I still think Walker if

1340
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 6: he played inside, could hold up a in the run

1341
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 6: game if he played there full time, and be a

1342
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 6: good pass rusher on the inside.

1343
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: On first and second down. I wouldn't put him with

1344
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: a three technique though.

1345
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 6: Not a three tech. But you could play him that.

1346
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 6: You could play him, You could play him in there.

1347
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 6: You could make him a three hundred pounder if you

1348
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 6: wanted to.

1349
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: He's a big He's a big dude.

1350
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 6: That's a big frame, Tony, Oh gosh, could he not

1351
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 6: be like Kalayis Campbell?

1352
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe that's a fair point. I mean Clays was.

1353
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 5: I mean early in Klays's career, he was much.

1354
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 6: Leaner correct, And I think he could be that. And

1355
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 6: and so I mean that's one possibility. If you decided

1356
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 6: to like the speedy edge rusher more than you like

1357
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 6: the interior defensive lineman, you.

1358
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 7: Could go that route too. But and then the other

1359
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 7: possibility is hunter.

1360
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: Is he Is he a generational corner? Pete?

1361
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 6: I think I think he's a corner, and I think

1362
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 6: he's a real good one that you could use on

1363
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 6: as a weapon and offense as well. Yeah, but I

1364
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 6: think he's a corner.

1365
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: But is he that good?

1366
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 6: Is he the you know, he's really good. He's he's

1367
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 6: really good. But yeah, I mean like the kid at Michigan,

1368
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 6: Will Johnson, really good corner too, really good quick.

1369
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 2: You know what makes corners really good?

1370
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 6: Pass rush past rush, right, Well, Colorado doesn't have great

1371
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 6: pass right, they have decent ones.

1372
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Speaker 2: But I'm talking to the pros, Bete Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1373
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 6: Correct. We've seen a lot of really good defenses not

1374
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 6: have great corners over the years, going back to nineteen

1375
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 6: eighty five Bears, it's hard pressed to find the names

1376
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 6: of those two guys that played started on those teams.

1377
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 6: One became a head coach, Leslie Frasier. He was one

1378
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 6: of them. Mike Richardson was the other one. Weren't great.

1379
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 6: The Ravens corners on those teams. Hell, Jimmy Smith abused

1380
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 6: Dwayne Starts for three hundred yards in one game. They

1381
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 6: weren't great corners. You know, you're right. Chris McCallister was

1382
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 6: a pretty good player on that team though, he's a

1383
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 6: pretty good corner. But they weren't great corners. They were great,

1384
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 6: great lines on those teams though.

1385
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: Great great front seven.

1386
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 7: Correct, correct both of them.

1387
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,760
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Speaker 1: Here's the best we've come up with today. Question number

1392
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: one at B for Brendan should do he have been

1393
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: playing more at safety this year? Well, we've gone over

1394
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: this already.

1395
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you have been kind of defined this year.

1396
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 5: He was hurt for you know, two thirds of the season,

1397
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 5: so he's really only been back and bump. You could

1398
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 5: argue he should have been playing more last week on defense,

1399
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 5: but he had to get his legs back underneath him.

1400
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 5: He had a pretty significant knee injury. And so if

1401
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 5: you're asking me, now, do I think he's playing? Yes,

1402
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: based on what I saw yesterday, he should be the.

1403
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 6: Here's the other part of that is would he have

1404
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 6: been starting if he doesn't get hurt?

1405
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 7: And I say the answer to that is.

1406
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: No, he but he might have by now.

1407
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 6: By now he would have been, But I'm saying he

1408
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 6: would not have started the season as a starter.

1409
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: He would not have no.

1410
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: Next question from X earlier today at CHOB sixteen t realistically,

1411
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: what will teams trade to the Jaguars for their draft

1412
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: position if they need a quarterback, like the Raiders are

1413
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: giants just today.

1414
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 5: The company, Well, if you have the number one O

1415
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 5: Wall pick, they trade a big ransom.

1416
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 6: To the right. If they don't.

1417
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 7: If they if they're at three, the two quarterbacks are gone.

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 6: They're not getting squat douche for it.

1419
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: Yet.

1420
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 6: Up.

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01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: They aren't getting trade up for Travis Hunter to three.

1422
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 7: No either, No, they aren't getting what for it?

1423
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: Pete, what was that word he used?

1424
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 6: Squad doosh zero? Nothing? Squat dosh?

1425
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: Was that? I'd never heard that before.

1426
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: You never heard of that.

1427
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 7: No, my man's a big green if you know what

1428
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 7: I mean.

1429
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 6: Wow, you don't remember that from One on one the

1430
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 6: movie way before your time. Tony probably saw it because

1431
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 6: he's a Colorado kid. It was filmed Colorado. Do you remember, Tony?

1432
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. Who was in it?

1433
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 6: Maybe Robbie Benson was a basketball player and he went

1434
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 6: to college on a full ride and it's kind of

1435
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 6: loosely based on U. C. L A. And he gets

1436
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 6: there and they beat the daylights out of him or whatever,

1437
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 6: you know, because they want to take away scholarship. You

1438
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 6: don't remember that, But Anyways, he walks into a into

1439
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 6: a party and he's like, I guess it was a party.

1440
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 7: They were doing drugs or something and they go.

1441
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 6: He goes, they have straws in their noses and the

1442
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 6: guy goes, ignore him. My man's a big greed, if

1443
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So that's like he's never

1444
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 6: been around the world. That's like JP's never been around Yeah, Pete.

1445
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 1: Next question, jamp.

1446
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: You know, it's a problem when you have to explain to.

1447
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a long explanation.

1448
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 6: You guys are too young. You don't remember the movie.

1449
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the youngest of all three. Remember that. At

1450
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: Eric M. Davenport, Pete consistently talks about this time of

1451
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: year being about good losses where young guys play well,

1452
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: because yesterday count as a good loss considering who we

1453
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: lost to.

1454
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: No, No, Well, well, here's the thing. It depends who

1455
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: you are.

1456
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 5: I think for the fan base, they're probably excited we

1457
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 5: lost because you want to You got the third overall pick.

1458
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: Now they probably want you to lose the next two.

1459
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 5: But if you look at the overall organization and losing

1460
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 5: to that team who had lost ten straight, it's a

1461
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 5: gut punch when every coach, player, in front office, person

1462
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 5: in the building.

1463
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 6: It's it's amazing that you don't see what I when

1464
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 6: I say that though, that there are good losses if

1465
01:12:55,160 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 6: the players play well, the young players grow, and.

1466
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: I see it. I'm talking talking about the people.

1467
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 6: Oh, the people are playing the game. No, you know.

1468
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 6: Then again, then again, you didn't see much emotion from

1469
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 6: anybody either way, So maybe.

1470
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 7: They don't give a crap.

1471
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 5: But it's a bad look losing to it a Raiders

1472
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 5: team that had lost ten straight.

1473
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 6: Well, you are the Raiders. Let's not forget that. They're

1474
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 6: the Raiders.

1475
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 2: That's the Raiders. Pete. I'm glad you said that because

1476
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: that is what's painful for me and maybe what it

1477
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: is and this is like maybe the first step to

1478
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: recovery is for all of us to look in the

1479
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: mirror and say, that's us.

1480
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 6: That's exactly who they are.

1481
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: That's us.

1482
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 7: And you know what I always say about the Raiders

1483
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 7: commitment to excrement.

1484
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sign off on that.

1485
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 5: But you know, because we talk about and I'm guilty this,

1486
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 5: we talked about bad franchises, bad teams like the Jets,

1487
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 5: the Raiders, you know, the Browns, you know whoever, just

1488
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 5: go down the list.

1489
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: Panthers, that's us right now, that's us, it's who we are.

1490
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: Panthers have a better record.

1491
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 7: For the last year and a half.

1492
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 6: That's exactly who this franchise has been. And that's what

1493
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 6: the worst teams in the NFL, that's what's painful. Right

1494
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 6: But until they start realizing it then and you talk

1495
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 6: about the pain of the.

1496
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 7: Loss, nobody showed any emotion at all.

1497
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 6: Ever. So so when a guy plays well, If I

1498
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 6: see the rookie defensive tackle playing well and they lost,

1499
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 6: that's progress. Brian Thomas played well and they lost, that's progress.

1500
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 6: Strange in the last couple of weeks, when he plays

1501
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 6: well and they lost, that's progress.

1502
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 5: So this was If the draft holds as it is,

1503
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 5: that's three out of five years we've had top five picks.

1504
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 6: The story would be so much better if it was

1505
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 6: the first overall back.

1506
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 2: I mean said, it can't happen.

1507
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 6: Uhuh, it can't happen. It's not happening. But that's how

1508
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 6: bad the Giants are.

1509
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: But they'd be just out of curiousity. What's the Giant

1510
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: strength of schedule? Can you look at it?

1511
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's better than the Jags. So in theory, yeah.

1512
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: And we lose out we have the number one overall pick.

1513
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 6: Yes, in theory, but it's not gonna Well, what's the

1514
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 6: Patriots is Jacksonville's worst two?

1515
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they have the same record right now. So

1516
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: in theory, if they played it out, which they do

1517
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: to determine this on that website, the Patriots would be.

1518
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 6: So if the Patriots won, if the Patriots and Jaguars

1519
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 6: both have the same record.

1520
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: It looks like the Patriots would have the second pick.

1521
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 7: Jackson would have the first pick, the third pick, the

1522
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 7: third pick.

1523
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: If the Giants lose, then.

1524
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 6: What if the Giants win one?

1525
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: That's a great question. It's a great question.

1526
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 7: I mean, the the best part of the whole thing

1527
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 7: would be if they pick.

1528
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 1: First, because it's never happened in the three times in

1529
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: a five year span.

1530
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 6: Every just goes to show you where the franchise is.

1531
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 7: Usually when you draft first overall.

1532
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 5: One, Oh, bon pete, you're telling me, is it any

1533
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 5: different if we're drafting third?

1534
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 7: Just for the narrative, for the narrative, what changes?

1535
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 10: Oh?

1536
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not different.

1537
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 2: It's not different. So we lost, we like, Okay, let's

1538
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: just play this out.

1539
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but when somebody's saying, we won three games and

1540
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,959
Speaker 5: we're picking third, we don't have the first pick.

1541
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 6: Give me up. But Tony, you know, during draft they'll say, oh,

1542
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 6: this is the third time they've been picking in the

1543
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 6: top five in the in the last three year. Is

1544
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 6: not gonna be the same as you're picking first overall

1545
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 6: three times in the last five years.

1546
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: He wants the headline. He wants the headline.

1547
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 6: I want the headline.

1548
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: Let's just call it.

1549
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 6: It's it's embarrassing, it's terrible, and and and when you're

1550
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 6: a fan sitting out there, that's why they're all calling

1551
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 6: for change, every one of them. Did they look at

1552
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 6: that and then the flip side of it, and somebody

1553
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 6: will say, well, look they got that star wide receiver

1554
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 6: later in the first round. Okay, well you can balance

1555
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 6: it out by saying you didn't do this in the

1556
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 6: first round. He didn't do that in the first round.

1557
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 6: He didn't do that in the second round.

1558
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: Cale was a first rounder.

1559
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got four sacks in the last three games,

1560
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 6: and he had an interception that was called back.

1561
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 7: He didn't by the way that that play was going nowhere.

1562
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 6: If he doesn't knock the ball down. There was a

1563
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 6: guy right there ready to make the play. Is Caleb on,

1564
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 6: Chase On? Could he have helped this team as a

1565
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 6: situational rusher?

1566
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 2: Is he better than Cohle's Hell?

1567
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is.

1568
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: The answer. There's your answer, Peat.

1569
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 6: But you know what happened. He didn't get drafted by

1570
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 6: this guy.

1571
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: He was in the building when they drafted him.

1572
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 6: He didn't draft him.

1573
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 11: Use the assistant GM dude, he ain't taking credit for

1574
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 11: that one.

1575
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 7: Come on, I didn't draft that.

1576
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 6: Come on, you know, you know he pushes that on.

1577
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 7: And it was a bad draft, terrible draft.

1578
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 6: That was a terrible draft.

1579
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: I get my bigger point. Pize this.

1580
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't make me feel any better if we pick

1581
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 5: third instead of first. In fact, at this point, if

1582
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 5: you're gonna need this badge, mules will picked first. He

1583
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: can trade down and get more picks.

1584
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: Listen to him, Pete, listen. Let you I think he's

1585
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 1: turned the corner.

1586
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm always a big believer in trading down and

1587
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 7: get more picks.

1588
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 6: But it's also if we were arguing in the court

1589
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 6: of law and gave twelve reasons why the guy is guilty,

1590
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 6: and we presented all our evidence. The jury would come

1591
01:18:53,800 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 6: back in about twenty two minutes with a verdict. Okay, guilty, guilty, Okay,

1592
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 6: look at the proof is in the pudding. You're shaking

1593
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 6: your head, JP, but the proof is in the pudding.

1594
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 6: There's nothing you can there's no other way to argue

1595
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 6: the case. The other way. You could have the greatest

1596
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 6: you could have every attorney in the world on the

1597
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 6: other side. And I'm still winning because I got the

1598
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 6: facts to lay them out.

1599
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: That's it for fanatics fan questions today. We're back in

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01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: a moment. Well around the way.

1601
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 6: I'd be a really good attorney.

1602
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: Gosh, can you imagine you in a courtroom, just hammered

1603
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: away the windows. Oh, we're back in a moment. We'll

1604
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 1: go around the NFL. Two for the price of one

1605
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: segments ahead. Oh boy, it's Jaguars Happy Hour, president by

1606
01:19:50,840 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back. Jaguars Happy Hour continues the

1607
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. J. P. Shadwick,

1608
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 1: Tony ROUSSELLI, Pete Prisco Licking our wounds after another Jaguars loss.

1609
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: Nineteen fourteen, It's time to go around the National Football

1610
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: League In week sixteen, and yes Thursday game Chargers beat

1611
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: the Broncos thirty four to twenty seven, both of those

1612
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: teams fighting for a wild card spot. The Chargers gotta win.

1613
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Do the Broncos have the juice? Do they have enough peat?

1614
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 6: I don't know. It all depends on what the Chiefs do.

1615
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 6: If the Chiefs don't play in the final week of

1616
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 6: the season, I think the Broncos get in. If the

1617
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 6: Chiefs play the final week of the season, their need to.

1618
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 6: It's gonna be tough, tough sledding for the Broncos to

1619
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 6: get in.

1620
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 5: But I mean, I don't think the Broncos are doing

1621
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 5: anything in the playoffs one and two. Let's give Sean

1622
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 5: Payton a ton of credit because they're probably a year

1623
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 5: or two ahead of where they thought they'd be. I mean,

1624
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 5: I think they got fifty million or sixty million dollars

1625
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 5: of dead money on the on the cap.

1626
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: Because of the Wilson. Yeah, because so Wilson.

1627
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: I think we lost Pete. Oh are you there?

1628
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 6: Okay, you must have lost my picture for some reason,

1629
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 6: any idea I could see you guys.

1630
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 1: That's what we call in the business and improvement.

1631
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.

1632
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 6: Much better then they would go to the one on

1633
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 6: the left and knock that one out real quick.

1634
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Pete, I think you'd agree.

1635
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 5: I mean, they're ahead of schedule and they've done a

1636
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 5: great job because I don't think anyone saw the Broncos

1637
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 5: making a move this year for the playoffs, rooking quarterback,

1638
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 5: a lot of dead money on the cap because of

1639
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 5: the Russell Wilson trade, so their hands were tied a

1640
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 5: little bit, and they've got a great year. So whatever happens,

1641
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 5: I think the Broncos are gonna say, hey, we are

1642
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 5: poised for the future.

1643
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: We have our franchise quarterback, we have our head coach.

1644
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: Let's go build it now.

1645
01:21:58,760 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1646
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 6: I mean they're in a great situation. And he wanted

1647
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 6: that quarterback and he got him, and here he might

1648
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 6: make the playoffs.

1649
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 7: They got a lot of young players on that team,

1650
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 7: good young players.

1651
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: I was so excited about Saturday because of the three

1652
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: college football playoff games and the two NFL games. The

1653
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: playoff college games were not great, and then the NFL games,

1654
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: Chiefs over the Texans twenty seven to nineteen. The Ravens

1655
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers thirty four to seventeen. These games even

1656
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: were not even close people.

1657
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a good.

1658
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: Steelers game. Was much closer than the.

1659
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: Score, right, because they had the picks the whole thing.

1660
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Chiefs game was relatively close for most

1661
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 6: of that game.

1662
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, I'm wrong, you're right.

1663
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: The college football, though, it was atrocian.

1664
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 7: It was terrible. It was terrible.

1665
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 6: I don't know if the ratings came out today, I

1666
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 6: haven't seen them, but I imagine the NFL crushed them.

1667
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: I saw some some tweet earlier that Yeah, it was

1668
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: like seven something and six and a half for the

1669
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: other one NFL games, and then all the all the

1670
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: biggest Tennessee Ohio State was like five and low fives

1671
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: something like that.

1672
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 6: You know, the other thing about it is that everybody's

1673
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 6: giving Oh, how dare the NFL play on Saturday? When

1674
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 6: college foot the NFL played on Saturday for decades after

1675
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 6: the after the Army Navy game, college football made a mistake.

1676
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: And I don't want to stay at the obvious NFL's king.

1677
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: They gonna do what they want. Yeah, guess what they're

1678
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: also going to play.

1679
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 5: They also never playing Christmas because that was supposedly the

1680
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 5: NBA day.

1681
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: Not anymore, no.

1682
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 6: In fact, we got two games on Chris too sold

1683
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 6: them to Netflix. They're on Netflix.

1684
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, so let's hope the streaming service works

1685
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 5: a little bit better than that Jake Paul fight on Netflix.

1686
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that works better.

1687
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 5: But I mean, the NFL's king, and when the King

1688
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 5: wants to play a game, they play a game, and

1689
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 5: everyone else has to get out of the way.

1690
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 6: Except on Friday during the high school season.

1691
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: They can't because they don't want to.

1692
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 6: Well they can't not allowed by law.

1693
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 7: There's old law in books that they can't do it.

1694
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 5: But again, again, they wouldn't want to play on They

1695
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 5: actually don't want to compete against college eena because that's

1696
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 5: the growing of the game, especially high school.

1697
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: They don't want to. Sorry, my battery is about to that.

1698
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: And my compete, Pete was that. By the way, what

1699
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: what year was that or were you there when they

1700
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: enacted that?

1701
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 6: No, that was a long time ago.

1702
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking you for.

1703
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I.

1704
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 7: Mean, I think I was alive, but I don't think

1705
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 7: I was.

1706
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 6: I was around. And here here's the other thing is, uh,

1707
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 6: don't everybody's got to watch at one o'clock in New

1708
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 6: Year's Day. I gotta watch that one.

1709
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: Is that Arizona State.

1710
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm worried about that one. I didn't want to

1711
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 6: play Texas.

1712
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 5: I am pete. You know what, Send me an Arizona

1713
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 5: State T shirt. I will take a picture, I'll wear it.

1714
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 5: I would be hard for the sun Devils in that game.

1715
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 6: If I could get you one, I'll send you one.

1716
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: I'll wear it, take a picture, because I want the

1717
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: sun Devils to win.

1718
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, but there's Texas is so big.

1719
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a chance and you know what,

1720
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: to win, but I want them to.

1721
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1722
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 6: I don't think they're too ASU will score on Texas.

1723
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 6: I just don't think they'll stop them. They're too big.

1724
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 7: Have you seen Texas offensive line, it's enormous.

1725
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1726
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: Some of the NFL games, Falcons big over the Giants,

1727
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: the Panthers beat the Cardinals.

1728
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Falcons game.

1729
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 5: Michael Pennix in his first NFL starting getting to win

1730
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 5: as a rookie.

1731
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 6: It was like, did some good, did some bad.

1732
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 7: It wasn't great, but he made some throws and he

1733
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 7: looked comfortable.

1734
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 6: And and now now we'll really see what he does

1735
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 6: because they play on the road as the team that's

1736
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 6: leading the division against the Commanders on Sunday night, first

1737
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 6: road game beat.

1738
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: What the hell happened to Kyle Pitts in Atlanta? He

1739
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: tipped that ball for the own interception?

1740
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 6: What's going on with Yeah, he's just not He had

1741
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 6: had the one rookie year and then after that it's

1742
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 6: been disastered.

1743
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 7: He's been a bust. Top ten pick.

1744
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, remember him coming out of Florida. Everyone thought

1745
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 5: he was going to be the second coming.

1746
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Remember Urban was talking about trying to trade up to

1747
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: get Remember that.

1748
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 7: Urban also wanted to draft Tony.

1749
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 6: Remember he wanted to when they drafted Etn he wanted

1750
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 6: Kadarius Tony.

1751
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: That's true. Panthers over the Cardinals thirty six thirty. Panthers

1752
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: now have a better record than the Jags, and the

1753
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: Lions beat the Bears. How about the fake fumble play touchdown?

1754
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, then why pull that out?

1755
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 6: Now? Well, well there must be some variation off of that,

1756
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 6: but I'll be honest with you, I didn't like to play.

1757
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 6: You could leak that tight end out without doing the trip,

1758
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 6: the fake trip. What if he what if he fell

1759
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 6: really fell and tripped. It's a sack.

1760
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: Does it matter. They're gonna win no matter what.

1761
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 6: Man, No, but I don't know. It's almost like, look,

1762
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 6: he gets creative. I love his creator activity. I just

1763
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 6: don't think you need it. The guy would have leaked out.

1764
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 6: Everybody runs that play the tight end leak you go

1765
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 6: do you? You know you you get him out? He

1766
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 6: actually his block and he comes across the formation.

1767
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 1: With this Lions tea with you man, let him have fun?

1768
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 7: Is that fun?

1769
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 6: Kind of fun? I I just because you gotta look

1770
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 6: at it from the stand What if he actually did

1771
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 6: fall down, then it's a sack.

1772
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: He can fall down any play. He didn't.

1773
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 6: Do you stumble and fumble all over yourself on every play, Tony,

1774
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 6: he was.

1775
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Pose idiot, he was under control.

1776
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 6: Oh he could fall I didn't like it.

1777
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 5: I mean, Pete, like, I'm gonna go back to what

1778
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 5: you said about this Jaguars team.

1779
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: They don't have fun. They need more fun.

1780
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 6: That were fun. Yeah, he leaks if he just leaks

1781
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 6: out normally body in the NFL.

1782
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: Every fan loved it except for you. Pete.

1783
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: You are totally rich.

1784
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: Crisco is what your name is?

1785
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 6: Well, I just look at it from a practical standpoint,

1786
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 6: it was a practice.

1787
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 2: Will give me a break. There's nothing like you pick

1788
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 2: and choose when you want to be practiced.

1789
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 6: No, I don't, No, I don't. I just I didn't.

1790
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 6: I didn't think it was that great a play.

1791
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: And you always seem to pick it. We're talking about

1792
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: the Lions. H you always seem to pick the to

1793
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: be practical when we talk about the Lions, you can't

1794
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: stand there.

1795
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 6: You lot of stupid things.

1796
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: They're four, they're thirteen to.

1797
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 6: Two, but they all do. They also would have been

1798
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 6: in the super Bowl last year if they didn't do

1799
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 6: the stupid things.

1800
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, they're thirteen and two with like eleven guys

1801
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,440
Speaker 2: on IR.

1802
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 6: This is because the team is good. They're a good team.

1803
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 6: I'm not saying they're not a good team. Did I

1804
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 6: ever say that? No?

1805
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: But you're being very negative, and I'm tired of your negativity.

1806
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: I have enough negativity in my life with the franchise.

1807
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: I love Pete. I don't need more out of you.

1808
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 6: Well, you're also partial to that franchise, going not you

1809
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 6: love the Lions because your buddy's a coach on that team.

1810
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: I love their quarterback coach. But that's about it.

1811
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's come back. We'll get to the rest of

1812
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: the games when we were two for the price of

1813
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: one around the NFL this week, ladies, join us at

1814
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1815
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1820
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1821
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1823
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1824
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1825
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Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe. We continue our look around Week sixteen at

1826
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Monday Night. Football coming up as well. Bengals over the

1827
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Browns twenty five four to six. Colts beat the Titans

1828
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: thirty eight to thirty. The Rams over the Jets nineteen

1829
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: to nine, but the Commanders beat the Eagles thirty six

1830
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: thirty three. Jaden Daniels is pretty remarkable.

1831
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 6: Pete thought he was the best quarterback in the draft

1832
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 6: going in, and he's the best quarterback in the draft

1833
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 6: right now. And he's special. He plays with an ease

1834
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 6: and a calm, and you know that's the thing that

1835
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 6: stands out about him. Fourth and eleven, scrambles for twenty yards,

1836
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 6: has the ability to go get outside the pocket. But boy,

1837
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 6: he could make some throws that you just go wow,

1838
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 6: including the touchdown. I mean, he's They have themselves a

1839
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 6: quarter That's a great situation in Washington because they have

1840
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 6: money and they have a quarterback.

1841
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1842
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 5: What about the Eagles peat, I mean, Jalen Hurts concussion protocol,

1843
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 5: so you know it's a coin flip whether it'll be

1844
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 5: ready this week or not.

1845
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 2: My guess is yes he will be. But without Jalen Hurts.

1846
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 7: They didn't lose because they didn't have Jalen Hurts.

1847
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 6: They lost because the defense that was number one ranked

1848
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,480
Speaker 6: in all year, it couldn't stop them.

1849
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 7: But they needed to stop them.

1850
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's fair because they did score thirty twenty three.

1851
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah.

1852
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 2: That's a good point. But yeah, James Daniels special.

1853
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 5: Speaking of rookie quarterbacks, Pete, I was reading today about

1854
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams. I mean I follow him just because the

1855
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 5: best seat. I mean, James Daniels is clearly the better

1856
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 5: player this year as a rookie. But Caleb Williams sneaking

1857
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 5: having a sneaky good year for all that he's going

1858
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 5: through with the you know how unstable that franchise is gone,

1859
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:44,440
Speaker 5: through multiple coordinators, head coaches. I mean, he has nineteen touchdowns,

1860
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 5: only five picks, and has thrown for the sixth most

1861
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 5: yards in the history of the Bears French franchise with

1862
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 5: just over thirty two hundred.

1863
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 6: He does have a tendency to get a lot of

1864
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 6: the somebody called them the Caleb Blake bortles Williams the

1865
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 6: other day because he has a tennis to get him,

1866
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 6: get him late in the game.

1867
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 11: But he's not throwing no, And you know it's amazing

1868
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 11: because he can make some throws that you look at

1869
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 11: him and you go, oh my gosh, what a throw,

1870
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 11: and then he spins around on the next play for

1871
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,799
Speaker 11: about forty two minutes.

1872
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 6: So he's got talent. He'll be fine. He's gonna be

1873
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 6: a good player.

1874
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: He threw four touchdowns against the Jags and then had

1875
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: four games without one, and now he has five consecutive games,

1876
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: four of those with multiple touchdowns.

1877
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 7: He's getting better.

1878
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 2: I think he has nineteen touchdowns in the air.

1879
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 1: That's correct.

1880
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 7: He's he's getting better and he will be fine.

1881
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 6: I just don't think he's the other.

1882
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Guy vikings over the Seahawks twenty seven to twenty four.

1883
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Bills beat the Patriots. They had a rally to do it,

1884
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 1: but they did it. And the Dolphins.

1885
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 7: Is that not a classic?

1886
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 6: By the way, team wins big game on the road

1887
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 6: against the Lions, that comes home and plays a bad

1888
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 6: team and he kind of goes through the motions for

1889
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 6: two quarters, looks up and goes h oh, and then

1890
01:32:59,080 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 6: they found the way out of it.

1891
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Figure.

1892
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 6: I do think it was.

1893
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 5: It's interesting that they finally announced that Josh Allen's been

1894
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 5: playing with a broken hand.

1895
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, on his non throwing.

1896
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,839
Speaker 2: Hand, but I don't care it's broken.

1897
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 5: And guy plays quarterback like very few people do in

1898
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 5: the NFL.

1899
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 6: He's a power runner like a linebacker.

1900
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he is so good, Pete. I mean,

1901
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean and.

1902
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 5: Game as wrong as you were about Will Levis and

1903
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 5: Christian Ponder. You held your guns over the first two

1904
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 5: or three years of Josh Allen's career, saying he was

1905
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 5: going to be a star, and boy he is.

1906
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 7: You gotta give me Patrick Mahomes too, because I was

1907
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 7: on him too.

1908
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 6: Okay, So you're so zero for two with Ponder and Levis,

1909
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 6: but two for two with the other two. Five I'm like,

1910
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 6: I'm like an NFL general manager, I got fifty.

1911
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Weren't a lot of people on Patrick Mahomes.

1912
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 6: No, that were not. They weren't as many as you think. Really,

1913
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 6: I could look at it.

1914
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I was always big on Josh Allen, so I was

1915
01:33:59,040 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: with you on that one.

1916
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins over the Niners. The Cowboys beat the Buccaneers, which

1917
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: means the Falcons are in the driver's seat in the

1918
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: NFC South.

1919
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 6: That's a bad loss for the Bucks.

1920
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 5: But but are they really as really in the driver's seat?

1921
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 5: They gotta go to the Commanders. I don't see them

1922
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 5: winning that game.

1923
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 6: On Sunday night, I mean, and the Bucks play host

1924
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 6: to the Saints and the Panthers to close out their season.

1925
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 6: If you had to pick which team would be the

1926
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 6: team that represents the division? Who would you bead was

1927
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 6: the Bucks? Yeah, but they didn't play well last night.

1928
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 5: No, I agree, I'm not. I mean, I'm not saying

1929
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 5: that Falcons can. I'm saying they have the harder road,

1930
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 5: much harder.

1931
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, the five and nine New Orleans Saints,

1932
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: with nobody left to play on the field, visit Lambea

1933
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: to face the ten and four Green Bay Packers. Will

1934
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: win and the Packers secure a spot in the NFC playoffs.

1935
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: Who you got in Green Bay? I think I know

1936
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: the answer.

1937
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 6: Look, come on, I mean, I haven't seen a team

1938
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 6: this deb seeded since the forty nine ers. But I

1939
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 6: mean you look at this team. Derek Carr not there,

1940
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 6: Kamara not there. All the receivers are down, all of them.

1941
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 6: They're playing a bunch of guys off the street. Defensively,

1942
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 6: they're banged up.

1943
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 7: I mean, this is this is a bad football team

1944
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 7: right now.

1945
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 5: Could they not flec They can't flex mondayday nights.

1946
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 6: No, they flex Sunday and they flex Thursday, but they're

1947
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 6: not flexing Monday.

1948
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 2: They should flex Monday. Because not that there was a

1949
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 2: great slate of game Sunday.

1950
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: But but the Packers though, and they can clinch a

1951
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: playoff spot. That's why they're right.

1952
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's against the Saints. Then we're gonna watch

1953
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 2: I mean I'll watch it.

1954
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 6: Everybody will watch it. The NFL, of course they'll watch it.

1955
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 6: Stop it.

1956
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: There you have it looked around the National Football League? Pete?

1957
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: What are your holiday plans this week?

1958
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 6: What do you I'm working, uh, and then going out

1959
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 6: to dinner with my father and UH and my wife

1960
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 6: and we'll have a nice little time going out to

1961
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:49,839
Speaker 6: a nice Italian restaurant.

1962
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 2: Which one?

1963
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 6: It's on Oakland Park. You know you wouldn't know what

1964
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 6: it was. Why you've been to some of them?

1965
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm just curious.

1966
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 6: Anthony ever gone to Anthony's on Runway eighty four down there?

1967
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: I love that place.

1968
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, they redid it.

1969
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 2: Why don't you go there? That'd be a good place

1970
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: for dinner.

1971
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 6: I don't think they're opening Christmas Day?

1972
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:08,879
Speaker 1: Nice?

1973
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 2: JP. What are you doing.

1974
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: I've got the Chiefs and the Steelers on Westwood one

1975
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Christmas Day?

1976
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 2: Good for you?

1977
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 6: Wow? Look at that look he held off telling us

1978
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 6: that one didn't he I held out.

1979
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: It never came up I'm leaving tomorrow morning and then

1980
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 1: i'll be back Thursday morning.

1981
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 6: Look at that guy.

1982
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: It should be a good game, good game game. Who's

1983
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 1: color Ross Tucker?

1984
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 6: Okay?

1985
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: I had him. We had him on a Monday night

1986
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: game in Miami earlier in the year. Yeah, well, good people. So,

1987
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: and you've got family in town Tony.

1988
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got all my kids are coming. My daughter

1989
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 2: got here today.

1990
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 5: My son is taking the Red Eye on Christmas Eve,

1991
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 5: so it'll be your Christmas morning.

1992
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 6: Where does he live?

1993
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:53,480
Speaker 2: San Francisco?

1994
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,839
Speaker 6: Okay? And then.

1995
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 5: Well I have everyone here, but uh one son in

1996
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 5: law will not make it because he's got he's at

1997
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 5: a ball game. So let's have all all my kids,

1998
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 5: grandparents will be here. It'll be chaos.

1999
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 6: I'll be Is that the offensive tackle? Where's he play at?

2000
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 1: Now?

2001
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:14,440
Speaker 2: Oklahoma?

2002
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 6: Okay? So does he play?

2003
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 5: I started the first seven. I think hurt his ankle.

2004
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 5: He missed a couple and I don't know if he'll

2005
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 5: be back from the ball game or not.

2006
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 2: I haven't. That's my daughter.

2007
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 7: He's in the portal.

2008
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 6: He was in the portal then, so he made more

2009
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 6: money than you did when you were at us.

2010
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, guys, we'll talk to you next.

2011
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Everybody.

2012
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Selly, Pete Prisco, I'm JP Shadder. Thanks for

2013
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: our entire crew, Joe fortunate out of Brent Reaver and

2014
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: David Choe And this is Jaguars Happy Hour,