1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Media. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: All right, man, listen, this is big. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: Most of the people we've invited onto this show are 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: people like I know or are in our network. I 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: ain't never except for the Garrison Hayes joint ever cold 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: called anybody shout out ian you know what I'm saying. 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: The one of the executive producers that cools on, I 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: was like, Yo, we should get the Fire and Fury 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: fools And I was like, the Fire and Fury Fools 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: d Michael Wolf homie that wrote the book, Like so 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 3: like actual journalist guys. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: So that's this show is. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: I interview the host of the Fire and Fury podcast, 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: some brilliant, brilliant dudes. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: Man. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: And I'm really excited about doing this because it's almost 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 3: like politics is like this is like when Easy when 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: to the White House, you feel me, Like, you know, 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: we had Jerry Crow juice dripping all over the White 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: House lawn. 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: You feel me. 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: Kendrick my second Lpie had real niggas on potus line, 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: you know. 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: So like. 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: This us putting our big boy pants on and really 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: seeing if like I mean, I'm pretty positive, but like 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: really testing out some of our theories on just the 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: premise of the show that like, man, you grew up 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: in the city, you understand politics. So here's my interview 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: with Michael Wolfe and James Truman of the Fire and 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: Fury podcast. We're gonna be like, y'oll how fire is 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: the fire psych But first. 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: It's like this bull look is like this bull look 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: is like this Okay. 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: So in a burst of bravery, just the moral fortitude 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: and conviction all that America could muster. After watching Israel 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: continue to deny food and services to the people of Palestine, 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: America finally grew a backbone and wrote a letter wrote 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: a letter to Israel, gave them a good stern talking 40 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: to that if they continue to block AID, then we're 41 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: gonna stop giving them them sweet sweet sweet life enders 42 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: that they so enjoy. I'm telling you, I told you, 43 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: if you keep doing this, we're gonna stop selling you 44 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: those those world enders you like so much. Like those 45 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: world enders, We're gonna stop selling to you. You don't 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: let the food go in there to the people you 47 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: actively killing. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna stop. BB said, 48 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: I wish you would. You ain't gonna do shit? 49 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: Is what pitchment that y'all said, You ain't gonna do shyet. 50 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: So there's that. 51 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: Speaking of Israel, they killed the leader of from us 52 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: on accident. And now this man, his name has become 53 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: a verb sinoir when you like you threw a sinoar 54 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: stick at it. Basically, I'm giving everything I have for 55 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: the cause to do my absolute best. That's what his 56 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: name has become now that they accidentally killed him. And 57 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: when I say accidentally killed him, I mean accidentally. They've 58 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: been looking for this man. He been in the tunnels, 59 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: but being in the tunnels really sucks. So he just 60 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: happened to go up for some mayor for a while 61 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: and some rookies, dudes that have been in the military 62 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: for nine months, just happened to catch a glance of 63 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: a uniform and was like, Hey, is that. 64 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: One of them? Is that a mod sneak over there? 65 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Hey is that one of the Hey those. 66 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: Guys over there, We'll send the drone in the look. 67 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: I sent the drone in the look and they was like, yes, 68 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: there's some ops in there. So they shot it up, 69 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: just thinking it's just a couple of ops. Turns out 70 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: they killed the leader. Boy, I tell you, After igniting 71 00:04:49,240 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: a famine, a continuous work after setting an area back 72 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: decades all accident, they killed the man, to which the 73 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: rest of the world is like, okay, so are we 74 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: good now? Can you can we go get back to 75 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: getting the hostages? Like are we good? You done kill 76 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: the leader of hesbe Blood? You done kill the leader 77 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: of Amasu? And of course both a hes Blood and 78 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: Hamas are like cribs don't die, We just multiply. 79 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: But can we okay? Can we? 80 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: Can we cease the firing now? Is like you captured 81 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: the you sank the battleship, you captured the checkmate, Like 82 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: can we what are we still doing? 83 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Benjamin? 84 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: None? 85 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Y'all who over there looking like Kobe Bryant, job's not doing? 86 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: Job's not doing? And like what job? 87 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: So the job is exactly what we thought your job was, 88 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: which is wiped them out. That's your job, because you 89 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: I feel like this should be mission accomplished. Gone get 90 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: your hostages, just like this seems like you got a bargainship. 91 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: But now you know, Benjamin want them to promise, promise 92 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: you'll never become mummas again. Like I don't know why. 93 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: You think that's possible anyway. In the home Front, a 94 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: couple of things. Turns out the legalization of marijuana, it 95 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: clearly ain't had nothing to do with marijuana. It had 96 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: to do with Monday. And these new super addictive hybrids 97 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: are like causing psychosis apparently, And in a big old 98 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: dub people like, oh it turns out its addictive. Of course, 99 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: like what substance, because addiction is us, like it's us, 100 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: it's not them. Anyway, it turns out marijuana could be addicted. 101 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: Some people just shouldn't smoke weed. That's a big old 102 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: duh anyway. And lastly, and are just such wonderful, beautiful, amazing, respectful, 103 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: high browed discussions about our next president. As Auntie Kamala 104 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: continues to try to convince everybody she is safe Negro, 105 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: she looking to black men being like, but I got 106 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: y'all's back, I'm your Auntie. 107 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: I love y'all vote for me. 108 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: And while I can hold two things at the same 109 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: time to meet personally, I feel like Donald Trump is 110 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: just a non starter. I can still say that Auntie 111 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: might fumbled his bag if she don't figure out this 112 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: Gaza thing. 113 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: She's like, you just it's it's just a layup. 114 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: And I wonder if she feels the same way Jade 115 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: Evans feels about admitting that Donald Trump is crazy, where 116 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: she's like like, come on, y'all know I can't say this, 117 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: but but we don't know, Like, well, that means that 118 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: I can't trust you. So she's trying to thread a 119 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: needle that it to me just seems like this is 120 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: an unnecessary thread. You could just I'm telling you, like 121 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: the at the very least, you could have let you 122 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: could have let a Palestinian speak at the DNC, because 123 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: they didn't. 124 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: They gave you the whole what has bewitched you anyway? 125 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: Because everybody know you're not gonna not support is Like 126 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: we know you go support Israel, but anyway, on the whole, 127 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: Trumpet it all that man said I'm gonna prosecute my enemies, 128 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: and turns out he absolutely meant it. My man, My 129 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: man said, he putting Liz Cheney on trial, He putting 130 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: the Biden family, y'all try, He putting Kamalade Harris on trial. 131 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: He putting the New York Times on trial. He like, oh, 132 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: y'all need to go to diddy. Anybody don't with me, 133 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: y'all going to jail? Like the demand y'all act like 134 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: it's hyperbole, and I just need you to think back 135 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: to the amount of times that this man told you 136 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: exactly what he planned to do, and y'all said it 137 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: was hyperbole. I mean, I like in some senses, I mean, 138 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: game recognized Gabe the man, the man. 139 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: The man said what he said, and. 140 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: He doing it at Our media continues to not learn 141 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: its lesson because it keeps saying in Trump's going more 142 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: and more off the rails, talking about he gonna bring 143 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: in the military and use the military. 144 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Against the America, against the enemies within. 145 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: I know he said that, and he said it because 146 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: he meant it, like I just are y'all. 147 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: Y'are not paying attention, are you? 148 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: Anyway? We got a few more days. I'm so excited 149 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: about our elections like this. 150 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, ladies and gentlemen. 151 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: We got two giants, two very brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant 152 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: men on our show. Here. We got Michael Wolf and 153 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: James Truman. What's up, fellas a man, I'm wonderful, man. 154 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: I really appreciate y'all doing this. I'm just gonna jump 155 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: into it because y'all's time is very valuable. 156 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: You guys like our actual jump away jump away you. 157 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: Know, so, first of all, again, thank you. We've already 158 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: done intros. My people know who you are. But generally, 159 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: like the premise of this show is like growing up 160 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: in urban areas, you know, and you know what I 161 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: mean when I say urban areas. 162 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: Let's be be very transparent what urban means. 163 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: But the premise of the show is that navigating the 164 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: different sort of auspices and spaces that you had to 165 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: growing up in just America, urban areas, specifically in the nineties, 166 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: I have found that we're much more equipped to understand 167 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: politics than we're given credit for. You know that there's 168 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of like transferable skills and tools 169 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: and just discerning whether it's political strategy, activating a base, 170 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: avoiding sort of like political landmines and stuff like that 171 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: you understand more than you do by just having to 172 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: navigate inner city living. And I'm excited about this because 173 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: I feel like oftentimes, I know, I've listened to y'all's pod, 174 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: I read Fire and Theory and just kind of like 175 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: as a in some ways, like a proof text to 176 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: be like, okay, was I am? I tripping like is 177 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: this what I think it is? You know, and then 178 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: hearing you guys talk and go oh no, yeah, no 179 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: this No, that's that's what we thought. So so this 180 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: is really exciting for me for somebody who like actually 181 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: was there, you know, because you know, at the end 182 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: of the day, we weren't there. 183 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: Y'all were there. 184 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: So I say all that to say this, like jumping 185 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: in specifically about about Donald Trump himself, I feel like 186 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: and a lot of the people that came up with 187 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: me and and for better or for worse, are like, 188 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: we all know this guy. We've I met this guy, 189 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: We've you know, whatever archetype of this guy is, We've 190 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: been seeing him our whole life, you know. And as 191 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: a father, I personally feel like, okay, you have all 192 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: the attributes I teach my children not to have, you know, right, Like, 193 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: this is the complete opposite of what I want my 194 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: kids to be. But my first question is is it 195 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: as bad as we think it is? 196 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, I would probably say yes and no, okay, yes, 197 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: because it's it's it's it's Donald Trump, and he is like, no, Actually, 198 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: it's curious to hear you say you know who this 199 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: person is because I actually don't know who this person is. 200 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: I have never ever in in my relatively wide experience, 201 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: come upon someone certainly as as success esful as he 202 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: is and as absolutely off the rails as as he is. 203 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: So that's completely confounding. 204 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: But sure. 205 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: But the the the the other. The other point about 206 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: whether how bad it is is it's a new kind 207 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: of situation in which Donald Trump makes a lot of 208 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: promises and he makes a lot of threats, and it's a, 209 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: to say the least, a scary world that he outlines. 210 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: At the same time, he's not very interested in any 211 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: of this. He's not very interested in accomplishing anything. What 212 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: he's interested in is is himself and being famous and 213 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: getting attention. He's certainly not interested in policies and legislation 214 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: and and any of the kinds of things that we 215 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: would say, well, well, that's that's what government does, and 216 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: that's why it's that's why it's good, or that's why 217 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: it's bad. 218 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's beautiful. 219 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: And I appreciate you making that distinction, because you're right, like, 220 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: there's I don't know if anybody who's able to just 221 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: make physics not work, like just the rules of the 222 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: rules of the universe just don't apply to him. But 223 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: just in the sense and like you said, like someone 224 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: who's like I can listen to you talk and just 225 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: be like, you sound like the most incompetent person I've 226 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: ever met. 227 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: But why does this work? You know? 228 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: But I think what it is familiar is just this bully, 229 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: this just completely detached, the complete detachment from what you're 230 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: actually saying, but just really just liking power and is like, 231 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: and I will do whatever it takes to maintain that. 232 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: And I don't owe any of you guys anything. I 233 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: don't have any long term friends because I've burnt them, 234 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, and like and those are things that again, 235 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: like you know, for me, like, that's a red flag 236 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: if I meet it. If I meet a person who 237 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: you know, any you know what I mean friends all 238 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: your friends are new, then I'm like, how that's there's 239 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: something wrong if you don't have any long term friendships, 240 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, and I'm looking at you, and 241 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: I'm going, well, yours are all in jail. 242 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: So what's what's your view on why this this works? 243 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's I have I have, that's a good question, 244 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: I have. 245 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: I have two thoughts on it. 246 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: One of it, I feel like is just good old 247 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: fashioned racism, just the fact that like America has just 248 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: never dealt with its original sin, and and a desire 249 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: to see. 250 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Things go back to a way where. 251 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: Ultimately a stratification of our society that places a particular 252 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: people group on top and everyone's subordinate to that. 253 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: And I think he speaks to that. At the end 254 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: of the day, there is that. 255 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: On the other hand, I do think there's a part 256 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: that's what I meant by for better or for worse. 257 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: I do think there's a part that's familiar to who 258 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: I would say, anyone who's come from a type of 259 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: struggle to. 260 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: Have sort of a like. 261 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: Without using like a profanity, but just like an f 262 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: the world attitude, like you know, I'm gonna get mine, 263 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: you know, and if it means taking it from you, 264 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: it don't matter. I'm going to get mine and you 265 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: can either come with me or not. And I and 266 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: and just the guy that walks in the room, that's 267 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: that's scarface godfather that like, you know, And there's a 268 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: type of bravado that I think resonates to inside of 269 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: a person who has never felt like they've had the 270 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: courage to become that, or just the moral fortitude to 271 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: understand that, like I have too much morality, you know, 272 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: to actually step into a world that would allow myself 273 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: to say the quiet things out loud. So in my mind, 274 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: I feel like it's those two things, like you get 275 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: to be you get to live out of bullief fantasy, 276 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: a gangster fantasy that the rest of us know better, 277 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: you know, And and to me, I would step to 278 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: the other side of that and say, that's what I 279 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: mean by like, well, I know that guy, he's he's 280 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: doing ten to twenty five, you know, like you know, 281 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: so like he's doing ten to twenty five and his 282 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 3: best friend is on his second child, that with your wife, 283 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, while you're in jail, you know. 284 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 285 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I know this guy, you know, and 286 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: none of your friends trust you, nobody likes you. You really, 287 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: you really don't have power. Everybody just can't wait for 288 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: you to leave and take your spot. So I'm like, 289 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 3: I know your future. That's what I mean by I'm 290 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 3: familiar with you. But to your point to take that 291 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: and become a president is absolutely mind boggling to me. 292 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do you think you just explained to us 293 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 4: the thing that no one seems to understand right now, 294 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: which is why Kamala is losing black and Hispanic males 295 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: to Trump. 296 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: I think, man, that's man, I like how this is 297 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: switching the game here. 298 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 2: I think I think that there's a part of that. 299 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: I think that, like, the thing that I'm explaining is 300 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: not specifically a Black and Hispanic thing. I think it 301 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: has more to do with the It's more socioeconomic than 302 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: than ethnic. You know what I'm saying, because because I 303 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: think Black and Hispanic people traditionally are very much more 304 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: center right than anything because of our faith and our 305 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: church backgrounds. But we're also very very transactional when it 306 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: comes to politics. It's like, look, man, who's who's gonna 307 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: give me what I need? 308 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 2: You know? 309 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: And And at the end of the day, there's also within, 310 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: like to be truthful, within the Black and Hispanic community, 311 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 3: a lot of misogyny. There's a lot of patriarchy that 312 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: still sits into our world and is really hard to 313 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: reckon with, you know what I mean, and really, and 314 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: I think shows up in ways that like, you know, 315 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: we're okay with like you know, Grandma being. 316 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: The matriarch of our family. 317 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: But at the same time Grandma looking at you and 318 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: saying you need to be a man at a house, 319 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: you know. 320 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: And and I. 321 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: Think that those those two things, like I think kind 322 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 3: of a kind of play a role, you know. But 323 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: I think it's it's much less like she doesn't have 324 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: the bravado, and it's more like, what are you going 325 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: to do for us? 326 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: You know? 327 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: And even if like you said, like Trump will make 328 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: a promise, and it's like, if you sit back for 329 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: a second, you could say, well, the same argument he's 330 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: using for her, which is, well you had a chance, 331 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: you know, And like, right right, I do have a 332 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: question for y'all though, around the same thing around like 333 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 3: this this vice president debate, which now is it feels 334 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: like it might as well been during the Great Depression, 335 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: you know, as long you know, But just this, I 336 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: listened to y'all's pod about it and decided I didn't 337 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: need to make one about it because I was like, 338 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: you guys kind of already said it, you know, But 339 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: just this like my dad can beat up your dad 340 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: type debate, which doesn't like doesn't really do anything. It 341 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: doesn't mean your dad could beat me up. It just 342 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: or beat up your dad. It just means you made 343 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: a beg and a better argument, you know. And and 344 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: I think that, like I kind of feel like, I mean, 345 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: what does the vice president do anyway? He just kind 346 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: of caught him out at you know, Christmases and holidays 347 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: to you know, kind of show. 348 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: Show your face. So so I'm curious about this. 349 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: What do you think the traction of this this these 350 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: attack lines around Kamala having the power to make change 351 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: now and not in acting the change that that she 352 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: says she can make. While at the same time I'm 353 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: watching this going, well, she's the vice president, Like that's she. 354 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like it's how you gonna 355 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: blame her, you know what I mean. 356 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 3: Uh So, so I just wonder if, like if her 357 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 3: record as as the vice matters, you know. 358 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: More than you know, I mean, cious curiously, this is 359 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: this vice presidential debate is one of the rare times 360 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: when it actually redounded to the benefit of the top 361 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: of the ticket. So, you know, I mean, again, not 362 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: good news for for Harris and the Democrats. And I'm 363 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: not exactly sure why. I mean, Dvance was better than Walls, 364 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: but you know, not not that much better. This was 365 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: certainly not a not a Trump Biden situation. So why 366 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: this should be, why this should matter more than most 367 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: vice presidential debates, I'm not certain, you know, I might 368 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: conjecture that both on the part of Harris and the 369 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: part of Walls, there are questions that voters feel they 370 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: are not answering, that they are avoiding, that they are 371 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: trying not to show themselves. When she declared yesterday the 372 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: day before that, you know, when challenged on her scriptedness, 373 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: and she said, that's what that's called is discipline. You know, 374 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I think that that is the problem. I mean, I 375 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: think she thinks it's discipline, and I think and I 376 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: think many voters feel that it's it's a lack of transparency, 377 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: it's it's her hiding, it's it's fakery. 378 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: Man. 379 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: That almost feels like a sort of a byproduct of 380 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: the lurching that Trump did, you know what I mean 381 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: to be like, like, I think to your point, there 382 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 3: was a time that we thought discipline was good. 383 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, No, no, no, I think I think. 384 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: You should say everything that pops in your head, you know. 385 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeahs, you know, but I think it's part 386 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: of the whole ways that Trump has upended everything about 387 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: politics and about political disc discourse, about political performance, about 388 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: the nature of campaigning itself. I mean, this is now performance, 389 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: and the performance is can I hold your attention? And 390 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: can I hold your attention with doing whatever? It really 391 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I do, just as long as I'm 392 00:24:31,720 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: holding your attention, which he does. 393 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: To your point about being able to like answer a 394 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: question better, like, I found that very interesting about Jade 395 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: Vance in the sense of, you know, to use the 396 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: to use the example of like my dad can beat 397 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: up your dad. Well, you said it better, But that 398 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: doesn't actually mean that your dad could beat up my dad. 399 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: It just means you were better at making the argument. No. 400 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Well, and that's why we've we've we've entered this whole 401 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: thing that that actually the issue of competence is not 402 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: an issue. What it is is the issue of communication 403 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: and connection and emotional appeal. 404 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, which which really leads me to this, to this 405 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: this the j six you know Fumble even in his 406 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: interview with Lulu Garcia uh Navarro on ah on the 407 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: New York Times, in my opinion, it's a gotcha question. 408 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: There's no way he can answer this question truly. Of 409 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: did Trump lose the twenty two the election. You know, 410 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 3: it's in the sense that, I mean, come on, guys 411 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 3: like you, like you, he can't answer. 412 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: This question, you know, no, but it's very it's very 413 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: clear what's going going on there. It's a kind of 414 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: triage at this at this point, he can't he can't 415 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: say that because then he would fall out with Trump. 416 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: So therefore, therefore that's a non starter. He cannot he 417 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: cannot tell the truth. Yeah, therefore he he you know, 418 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: he has no alternative but to but to try to 419 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: fudge the question. Yeah, And I mean, he he's he's certain, 420 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: he certainly knows that I'm gonna look foolish, but better 421 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: I look foolish then I then I fall out with 422 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Man. 423 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: I I saw that, and I flashed back to being 424 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: thirteen year old, and you know, I just saw I 425 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: just saw this bully steal my friend's bike. And then 426 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: and then somebody walks up and goes, hey, whose bike 427 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 3: is that? 428 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at both of them, knowing. 429 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: Full well that you just I'm just that le's while 430 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't be honest, like we both know 431 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: you just stole this bike. 432 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Exactly. There there is no there is no possibility. And 433 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: I think everybody, I mean, that's the other thing about 434 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the about the world of Donald Trump. Everybody understands something 435 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: that is every It's transparent, every everybody understands this so 436 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: so so vance isn't penalized for not not dealing with, 437 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: not confronting this, not telling the truth about this because 438 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: everybody knows he knows the truth. He just can't say 439 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: the truth. 440 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: He just can't. That is fascinating to me. 441 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: That's what I mean by like just gravity doesn't work anymore, 442 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: you know, because like we all are we just like 443 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: we all know that this is what's happening, Which leads 444 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: me to my next question, which to me is is 445 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: I land here as like one of To me, the 446 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 3: biggest question is like, so, why in the world would anyone. 447 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: Want to work there? 448 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 3: And I'm curious as to like I think you guys 449 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: mentioned once that like people will still like line up 450 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: to work in his cabinet, you know, but like you 451 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 3: just have to turn your body into a pretzel to 452 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: be able to do it, you know. And I'm just 453 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: I just again again going back to how we were raised. 454 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, no, stay away from him, like, 455 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: you can't this this is a lose lose situation, you know. 456 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: So I just wonder, like, what do you think would 457 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: be the motivation for a person to be willing to 458 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: Like do you do they just think they're different, like 459 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: that there's somehow immute immune or like are you going 460 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: to be the adults in the room? Like why would 461 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: anyone still willingly step into this environment? 462 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I mean all of that is is true, 463 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and and the exceptions that you outlined are true because 464 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: everybody does think they are different, because everybody does think 465 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: that they can they can do what no one before 466 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: them has managed to do. But then there's also just 467 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: the just the the risk reward thing. You know, I'm 468 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: going to go in I'm going to get a job 469 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: in the in the in the in the White House. Yes, 470 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: I might be indicted, Yes you know I'm going to 471 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: be humiliated. Yes, no one is. You know, I'm not 472 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: going to be listened to. But at the end of 473 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: the day, there is also a very good chance that 474 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I will come out ahead of where I am now. Now, yeah, now, 475 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: the problem with that is that there's also a very 476 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: good chance that you will be you will come out 477 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: significantly lesser than where you are now. But for some reason, 478 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: the human mind doesn't necessarily process things that way. I'll 479 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: take a chance. It's the old I'll take a chance. 480 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: And it is the White House. 481 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if there's like a piece of some 482 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: of it's just the adrenaline, you know. 483 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: And then that is true, it is it is the 484 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: White House. It is like, yeah, this is gonna be exciting. 485 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: I'll go along. I'll go along for the ride. 486 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 487 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: And to your point, is also true that if you 488 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: befriend a bully in the belief that you're not gonna 489 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: get bulleted by the bully, but in fact, you always 490 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: end up getting bulleted by the bully because that's what 491 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: the bully does. 492 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: That's what he does. Yeah. 493 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good point too. Yeah, that you're 494 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: just like man maybe like, yeah, at least I'd rather 495 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: be the hunter instead of the hunter. You know, I 496 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: can totally understand that. 497 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: And remember, remember the thing is and and and this 498 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: is all part of the of the of the Trump thing. 499 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: You know, it is always better to be more famous 500 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: than you are. Yeah, and yes, and you know, and 501 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: you go into the White House, and even if you're 502 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: spit out by it. You're more famous on the other 503 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: side than you are on going in. 504 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, very true. 505 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure that's good. 506 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: Short jail term is the price you pay for that? 507 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, you know what. 508 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: It's a cost of business, business, the cost of business, right, 509 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: you know. 510 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Steve, Steve Steve Bannon gets out of jail. I believe. 511 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: I believe next maybe maybe in two weeks. And I'm 512 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: sure if you gave him the if you gave him 513 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: the choice. No, Donald Trump, none of this, none of this. 514 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: You can go back to twenty and sixteen and not 515 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: do it and not go to jail. He would say, no, no, 516 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: I'll go to jail. 517 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 518 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, all of the humiliations that Trump has met 519 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: it out to him, it doesn't make any difference. He'll 520 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: he'll take. 521 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: It's merely a line item on your on your P 522 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: and L. 523 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. 524 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 3: So, I think my last few questions or two questions 525 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: really are like more zooming out, kind of like a 526 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: meta questions, one about your the field that you're in, 527 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: and then also about just presidencies as a whole. Like 528 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: I part of me feels like there has to be 529 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: some sort of hubris or I don't know, lack of 530 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: a better term, just malady to think that or even 531 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: to desire to be a president. You know, I'm gonna 532 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: look at thirty three hundred million people and go, I 533 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: could be in charge, Like I could, I could do this. 534 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: You know. I. 535 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: And I wonder if in y'all's experience, if it's I'm 536 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: not not not looking for no like kind of race 537 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: science or like you know, gene in there that says. 538 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: I can be the guy or I can be the gal. 539 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: But have you noticed is they're a personality thing inside 540 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: a world leader? Like have you noticed that they have 541 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: a thing that like because I feel like that thing 542 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: is like something wrong with you like that, like you know, 543 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: like no part of me would feel equipped for this job, 544 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: you know, or even want it, you know. 545 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: So I just wonder, like, do you see a. 546 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: Through line between people who would desire this type of position? 547 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you can fairly say anybody 548 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: who wants this job, there's something wrong with them, you know. 549 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think that they have emotional problems. I 550 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: don't think that that's a that's far off the mark. 551 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: But the other thing is not only the assumption of 552 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: this kind of of this kind of power and that 553 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of hubris. It's people who are willing to do 554 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: what you have to do to become the president. 555 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 556 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's years of utter unpleasantness, certainly, and I 557 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: think basically degradation, you know. I mean it's just not 558 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: in not a human enterprise, and so to do that. 559 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, by the time, if if you weren't already 560 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: warped as a person who wanted that job, you are 561 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: certainly going to be warped by the time you you 562 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: you get it. I mean, it's it's ludicrous. You have 563 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: to run for this for I mean, this is this 564 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: is more than a two year enterprise. You know, you 565 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: have to beg people for money. You have to eat 566 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: the shittiest food. 567 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Known to man at room temperature. 568 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: You know. I mean even even even Donald Trump is 569 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: full of rage wrath at when you know, when when 570 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: he has to has to sleep in these hotels that 571 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: that they put you in. You know, what a what 572 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: a crummy life? 573 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you gotta really want it. Yeah. 574 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: Wow, it seems as though this uh election it being 575 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 3: I mean, if you believe the polls as close as 576 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: it is, it feels like it's it's either of theirs 577 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: to lose, you know, not, rather than it's there to win. 578 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: It feels like, you know, your two, your two missteps 579 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 3: away from from losing this. What would you say for 580 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: either of them would be the thing that would push 581 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: them off the ledge to to losing this? 582 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: This thing for Kamon Law, I mean's Donald It's it's 583 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: a it's a good question. I'm not sure, you know, 584 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: I think it is his to lose and hers to win. Okay, 585 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: and and and I think that he can lose by 586 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: being Donald Trump. Now, now that's confusing because that's also 587 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: would be the reason that he will win. I think 588 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: she has to do in some sense, it's going to 589 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: be harder for her to win if she stays as 590 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. She has to break she has to break 591 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: character at this at this point. And you know, I mean, 592 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure that she can do that. 593 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, she may then just just 594 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: just have to count on him being him and you know, 595 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: shooting himself in both feet, which he is perfectly capable 596 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: of doing, absolutely a matter of fact, kind of likely 597 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: that he will do. 598 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's a certain which I would love to 599 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 3: like fill in those holes too. You know, there's a 600 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: certain sort of double consciousness that like ev D Voice 601 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: and James Baldwin talks about, like that, eyes feel in 602 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: some ways a little more empathy towards Kamala in the 603 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: sense that like, at the end of the day, you're 604 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: still just You're still a black woman, and you're a 605 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: black woman in power, and they're just in our country. 606 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: There is a level of guarding that one has to have, 607 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: has to know to coach, which has to know how 608 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: to do this. And granted I've never gone through the 609 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 3: degregation it takes to run for office, but I think 610 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: in my own way, and I think any person of 611 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 3: color in their own way knows. 612 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: That like. 613 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: Idea that like I can't show you too much of me, 614 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: you know, just because of just the history of racism. 615 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 3: Now that's not an excuse for her, because like I said, 616 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 3: she running for president, Like you know what I'm saying, 617 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 3: Like I'm not running for president, you know what I mean, So, 618 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: like I can stay that guarded. But I think in 619 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: her ability to ascend the hill in the way that 620 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 3: she has without her having to say that, I feel 621 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: like that that's something that like I can see that. 622 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, Na, you can't. You can't really 623 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 3: talk the way you talk, you know, you can't really 624 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: say what you really thinking, you know, And I don't 625 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: know if that's like I can only again speak for 626 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 3: the black American experience. I can't say that this is 627 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: not true for anyone else. I'm just saying this is 628 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: true for us. 629 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 630 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: No, no, And she may have you know, I mean, 631 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: she has clearly made this very fine calculation and at 632 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, maybe she's right. 633 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, cool man, Thank you so much 634 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: for your time. My last question has to do about 635 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: just the concept of investigative journalism and sort of the 636 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: work that you dudes do, which I almost heard the 637 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 3: sigh through through through the mic right now about this 638 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 3: of just like obviously you know it had don't exactly 639 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 3: dovetail well in this age of like instant news and 640 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: even me as somebody who like you know, I'm smack 641 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 3: dab in the millennial world where I even find it 642 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 3: difficult to find clips of my own pod because I'm like, well, 643 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm building a case here, you know what I'm saying, 644 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 3: Like I'm that swing generation with the analog sort of 645 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: childhood and then you know, a digital like teen years. 646 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So, like, I still want to, like, 647 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 3: I need you to build a case. Tell me why 648 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 3: I still know how to like fact checked and like 649 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: site sources you know what I'm saying, and look at 650 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: like dissenting voices, like so, I even still find it 651 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: very difficult for even me to say in a thirty 652 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: second clip. 653 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: This is the point. 654 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I can't because the clip needs context, 655 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: and then the context needs context, and then that context 656 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: needs a historical context. So I just wonder, man, like, 657 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: how you guys dealing with it? Man, how are you 658 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 3: guys dealing with just an adapting adjusting? Because it's it's 659 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: obviously still necessary. Long form is still absolutely necessary. But 660 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: what do you guys think the future of sort of 661 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: investigative journalism is? 662 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I'm not I mean, I don't 663 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: even think of myself as a journalist. I'm a writer 664 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to trying to portray what I 665 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: see and yeah, uh and and James went off to 666 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: start restaurants and I'm the person who pulled him back 667 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: into this, so uh, and I think maybe, well, you know. 668 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, restaurants and journalism are kind of similar businesses 669 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: like terrible, like it's terrible. 670 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: Awful, just money sucks. Yeah, got it. 671 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 3: I started a coffee company, so yeah you go. You 672 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: could see the box of the case tray, the six 673 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: pack sitting right by me, just like with no coffee 674 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: in him. 675 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 676 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: Anyway, good, hey, listen, thanks, this was this was great. 677 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for having. 678 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: Us, man. 679 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 3: I really appreciate y'all taking y'all time for this man 680 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 3: and again buyer Fury podcast. Uh with these two brilliant 681 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 3: gentlemen weekly drops. 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