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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl Sharing the drama Queen's Girl Fashion. But

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Speaker 1: Queen's Cool Friends were back. Did you miss us? I

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Speaker 1: Um tonight we got to hang watching episode nine with

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Speaker 1: Arms Outstretched, which the air date was November eighteenth, two

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Speaker 1: thousand three. Uh. This is after fighting with his father

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Speaker 1: and Haley. Nathan succumbs to the pressure and he takes amphetamines.

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Speaker 1: Someone was like, Oh, this is perfectly okay for a

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Speaker 1: like what? And then in this episode it's like it's

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot like, Okay, I'll give Luca space

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Speaker 1: And like it was just because like Joy was Joy

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Speaker 1: were just dying laughing. I was like, where do you

425
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: think all the engagement rings went between us? Because everybody's

426
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: a couple, and like, oh god, I just you're right.

427
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: We we wanted to like prove that, you know, we

428
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: were all grown up and we had everything figured out.

429
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: And and I will give you so much credit because

430
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: you held us and you mothered us, and you gave

431
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: us great advice, but you never told us what to do.

432
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: And I can't imagine how many times you had to

433
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: bite your tongue because we did some stupid with Joy,

434
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: would I Joy? I don't know. I'm sure. I'm sure

435
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: you had to enjoy with her experimental hair phase. Remember

436
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: when like you would put the little tiny braids in

437
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: your hair and then you have unicorn hair for like

438
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: a second, how Joe? Okay. So hair is obviously something

439
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: that we talked about a lot on the show because

440
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: that was how we all tried to express ourselves or

441
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, just feel like we had a little bit

442
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: of control over what we were doing. How exhausted were

443
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: you doing three hundred hair dues on three hundred different girls.

444
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell you when I went, when I interviewed

445
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: for a job after One Tree Hill, it looked like

446
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: I had you know, you know a lot of resumes

447
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: are like long and you know, fifty things on them.

448
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: Well I had to point out that on my time

449
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 1: on One Tree Hill, I did over five hundred hairstyles.

450
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: So then that opened her eyes. So everybody listening out there,

451
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: if your hairsty was just starting right down the number

452
00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: of oh gosh, I mean you were fighting humidity with

453
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: with two girls with curly hair, Um, you know, one

454
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: of them had to be straight and one had to

455
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: be curly, but it all had to be done with

456
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: an iron which doesn't stay uh in humidity. It water

457
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: just lets it all out. So that's a big challenge

458
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: that you're right now these days. I mean, and after

459
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: we left, you know, it's just me Christie and a

460
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: third I do. I think there was like two or

461
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: three more people hired, and you know, and another trailer

462
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: and a whole team for us second unit. And nowadays

463
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: doing four people's unheard of because you know, it's like

464
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's like many movies, you know, per episode,

465
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, episodic. But oh yeah, we shot in the

466
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: right if it didn't read, uh, you girls were out

467
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: in the weather, and what that means for the folks

468
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: at home when Jojo says if it didn't read, so

469
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: a funny thing can happen sometimes on camera. It can

470
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: be raining, but if the drops are small, they won't

471
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: quote read on camera. You won't be able to see them.

472
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: So they would put us out in the actual rain

473
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: and you know, coming blot us down with the tissue

474
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: every couple of weeks, so they want drops on our faces.

475
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: But we'd be standing in the rain and then they

476
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: look at Jojo and be like, can you just clean

477
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: up your hair? And she's like, it's wet now. It's

478
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: like Harry. Harry's hair would totally change if too wet.

479
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: Enjoyce went two, depending on you know, how much we

480
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: had blooded dryer, or if she pulled down her ponytail

481
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: after the first tight and said it wouldn't show probably

482
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: wearing the poncho that everybody but you hate it. I

483
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: didn't hate it. I thought it was cute. Ponchos were,

484
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: and by the but I don't know that leather pants

485
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: knew that. That's by the way. Okay, so the one

486
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: that shall not be spoken of will forever now be

487
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: known as leather pant has branded it done Done go to.

488
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Nick started out blue jeans and went leather payt Wow gross,

489
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Hey Joe, Joe, Because I think some of the technical

490
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: stuff is really interesting to people, especially like you know,

491
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: some of the language we know, like does it read

492
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: whatever whatever? And you just said if there's anybody listening

493
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: who wants to be a hair stylist, right down what

494
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: you're doing. I'm actually curious because I do think there's

495
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: probably a lot of people listening to this show who

496
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: are into the film industry, can you explain to people

497
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: listening who might be curious about your line of work, like,

498
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: what is day to day life like on set for

499
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: a hairstylist and and what's the difference when you're a

500
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: key hairstylist or you're the department head for hair What

501
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: what do those things mean for for film industry? Curious

502
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: listeners at home, Hello, curious listeners. As you know, you

503
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: can have a team of you know yourself and two

504
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: more or three more and you know, depringing upon the

505
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: size of the uh TV series around or the movie

506
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: kind of done a movie in a while, but um,

507
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: but you know, episodic After doing movies and doing episodic

508
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: it is so hard. It's much harder than film are features.

509
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: But the family unit that you build with um and

510
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: everybody knowing your name is so much just just means

511
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: so much more. UM and armit hand. You're pretty much

512
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're in charge of well, on the show,

513
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm on the guys. You know, really let us be

514
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: involved in the creative process. So we've actually got I

515
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: got to help create these characters and their hairstyles and stuff. UM,

516
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: So you do that and you make sure the scheduling

517
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: is right, and it turns out sometimes the department had

518
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: turns out to be more um about making the schedules

519
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: and paperwork and sending in budgets and ordering and ordering

520
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: and ordering. But you're doing a lot of management work

521
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: when you're the department. Yes. And if you get yourself

522
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: a good team and you get to do both, um,

523
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the juggling that you do. Um.

524
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: And then you're on set making sure those hairstyles like

525
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: awesome all day and sometimes you have to make that

526
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: same hairstyle look the same for eight hours when in

527
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: fact on the show it might be one second or

528
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: one minute. And then you also have to be a therapist,

529
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: and uh title myself as a therapist. I would say, um,

530
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: I've just lived it a little bit before you all did.

531
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: So I think you were well suited to us, though, Joe,

532
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: because you like bartended back in the day, like your

533
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: your experience back in the day was kind of what

534
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: we as young actresses were living. And just like going

535
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: out in a town going to see bands, like just

536
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 1: trying to get involved and and you really coached us

537
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: through it. We always had good music in the trailer,

538
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: like the We had a good call fee in the trailer.

539
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: We had good music in the trailer, and we had

540
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: good vodka in the trailer, And I don't know if

541
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: you can go wrong with that combination. Jojo. What what

542
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: are some of your strongest memories from your time on

543
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: One Trio? Um? The like I want like flashback when

544
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: everybody was dressed up. Um, there's so many watching uh

545
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: Lee nors cheer that one of my favorite favorite. So hard,

546
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: he did so good where the real cheerleaders. I'll these

547
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: girls like, oh, well, we've got this, We've got this,

548
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: and then there's like hundreds of real cheerleaders. Y'all had

549
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: to learn your routine, like, oh my god, this is

550
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: that episode's coming up. Joe, and we were terrible, terrible.

551
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: You're like mad at each other but not really, but

552
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: then mad at yourself because you didn't get the routine

553
00:32:51,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: and we've got this, yes whatever. There's like four hundred extras, jam.

554
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he was so everybody hasn't seen that episodes

555
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna really know what we can do. He

556
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: practiced for so long and they would always we had

557
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: to do do you remember when we had to do

558
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: that stuff? They'd be like, well, we'll have someone come

559
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: show it to you guys right before you have to film,

560
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: and we were like, we can't learn a whole am.

561
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? Like, we don't know

562
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: what we're doing. When the ten minutes you had to

563
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: be talked, you know, before we shot it, y'all were

564
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: so funny. I had to walk away. I was like,

565
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, because that feeling of like trying so

566
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: hard to focus and also knowing that no matter how

567
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: hard you focus, you are just gonna fail, and there's

568
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: people standing there looking at you. Did you come up with?

569
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: Was like, well, let's just be bad, you know, and

570
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: make it look We were like, let's just start doing

571
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: the robot and the can can we made up all that. Yeah, gosh,

572
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: not everybody can be a winner. Um yeah, that was

573
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: a good one. Jojo was also great. I would have

574
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: these Halloween parties where we always had like a theme. Right,

575
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: you're the only person I know they didn't have to

576
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: decorate our house from Halloween. Shut up. It's true though.

577
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean I lived in Squalor and haunted house was

578
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: a coffin I did. God has forgot about that. Right

579
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: when I moved in with Jeff. He's like, you can't

580
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: bring any of that, that was too much. But Joe

581
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: would come decked out. I'm gonna post some pictures from

582
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: our Halloween parties. Everyone would get to the house at

583
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: like nine or ten, and then Jojo will have sat

584
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: in like hair and makeup for like three more hours.

585
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: If I the time she gets to the party, she's

586
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: already like gone. You would set up and then you

587
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: would disappear. You came as Jojo the dog faced girl

588
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: because everybody liked calling out because of my name. So

589
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: Rachel decided that she would bake and I remember drinking.

590
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: Rachel was our makeup artist. Remember that the hair? Oh

591
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: my god, almost gag just now thinking about it, because

592
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: almost it was our carnival theme party. Would you do

593
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: for the Oh you came dressed as a princess to

594
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: our fairytale party. That was a good one. Were you

595
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: look an evil queen that had poison apples and that

596
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: made the shots. Yes, it's good to have a bartending

597
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: hairdressing friend to take care of you at your party's indeed, oh,

598
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: I just remember him. You had the big you put

599
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: up the big screen and you're one of your houses

600
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: and you showed movies and stuff. Yeah, I didn't get

601
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: into TV. I just had a projectory and I painted

602
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: a giant yeah, like a reflective screen on the wall.

603
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: That wasn't my old that place on Orange Street. And

604
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: I had big velvet curtains, and I loved antique shopping

605
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: in Wilmington's. It was so fun. I want to know

606
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: some secrets. I want to know some like what some

607
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: like fun stuff that we can talk about. That's that's

608
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: like fun trailer secrets that we would have forgotten or

609
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, things that maybe like some of us don't

610
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: know because other others weren't there. Okay, so the secrets

611
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: are Joy didn't know what a higgy was, Oh my god.

612
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: And the other secret Barbara Alla Woods. They asked her

613
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: to be in uh brown panties on the billboard thing. Remember,

614
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's what she asked me. I mean, I don't know,

615
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: what do you think? Wah wawa? You know what? Barbara?

616
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I just said, you know what, I

617
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: don't know how old you are or whatever said, but

618
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: you know what I remember reading that. Um An actor,

619
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: a real famous actress, said she wished she would have

620
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: done more in her forties or thirties, you know, when

621
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: she was in her fifties. She was saying this, and

622
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, Marbot, you got a rocking body,

623
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: freaking show it off. Just do it, guys. And Jojo

624
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: literally said that to me two months ago. She was

625
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: doing my head at her house in Georgia and she's like, Hillary,

626
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: you're covering up too much. It's time. She d in

627
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: the middle of all of us crew members. It's broun pays,

628
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: damn billboard stuff. And I said, if you don't want

629
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: to do it, don't do it, but you know, do it.

630
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Don't do it because they're making it. Don't because you

631
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: want to say, look at me sucking, rocking this body.

632
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: And she did it. I love that you did. Always

633
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: add that perspective to a lot of the stuff that

634
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: we had to do, where it was like, you know what,

635
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: some of this is really kind of misogynistic and whatever,

636
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: but if we own it and do it our way

637
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: and posture it in the way that we're comfortable. Um.

638
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: It helped so much to know that there were women

639
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: on our team. I had to do some of this stuff.

640
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like the sex scenes that we had to

641
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: shoot as teenagers. I had to leave the stage if

642
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: I heard, you know, because the sound is so much

643
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: louder when you're you know, when you're on especially, it's horrible.

644
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: And that kissing thing. I loved all of you so much.

645
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: I had to listen to kiss one more time. I'm

646
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna throw up. I mean, I just had to know

647
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: it sound boy euristic and I like it. You were

648
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: there for all of the battles that we would have

649
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: about those scenes and about like what we were supposed

650
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: to wear, and you know how how in depth the

651
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: scenes were going to be, and us fighting for our

652
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: characters and knowing that we were in a position of um,

653
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: young high school girls looking up to us and being

654
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: and really caring about the message that we were putting

655
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: out for them. Um yeah, I mean I remember that too.

656
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I remember that you were always there, You heard all

657
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: of it, and you were constantly giving us advice on

658
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: uh never telling us what to do, but like helping

659
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: us were out what our thoughts actually were so that

660
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: we could present an argument to the people that we

661
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: were that were in charge, that we were butting up

662
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: against that was intelligent, an adult, and you know that

663
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: we could really present ourselves in a way that was effective. Joe, Joe,

664
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out with us. Are we your favorites?

665
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Can we tell all the other kids that we're your favorites?

666
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: I think everybody knew that and that and still and

667
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: I love you so guys, so much. And it's not

668
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: a day that goes by that I don't think about

669
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: you and say thank you for the stuff that you

670
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: taught me. We love you. Oh, I know, Joanne, Can

671
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: I tell you something. I I tell a story no

672
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: less than once a month, and I'll never forget it.

673
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: And I think this is probably something. I know it's

674
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: a thing that I needed to hear, and I know

675
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: it's probably something that so many of our listeners at

676
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: home need to hear. Um. You know, so many of

677
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: us are really good at showing up for other people

678
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: and loving our friends while doubting ourselves. I mean, it's

679
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: it's what kept the three of us. You know, what

680
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: let us be manipulated for so long when we were

681
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: little girls, was that we each of us like sat

682
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: in the corner looking at the others, being like, Wow,

683
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: they're so amazing, and I'm the odd man out, Like

684
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: we didn't know how to turn it around. And we

685
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't know how to get over the hurdle of just asking.

686
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: And I remember being in your chair one day and

687
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: I just was venting and I was like, and I'm

688
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: bad at this and I'm failing at this and this

689
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: isn't working. And I was just like really on a

690
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: on a moment of criticizing myself so aggressively the way

691
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: that you know we all negative self talk, but I

692
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: was doing out loud in front of you, and you

693
00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: went and you listen, and then you went, and I

694
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: could just feel your hands getting like more atlantic in

695
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: my hair, and finally you threw the brush on the

696
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: counter and you spun me around in the chair. You

697
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: grabbed me by the shoulders and you shook me and

698
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: looked me in the eye and you said, you watch

699
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: your mouth. You're talking about my best Oh. And even

700
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: now it makes me want to cry. It was such

701
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you shook me out of some things, and

702
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I realized I would never let anybody talk about any

703
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: of you the way I was talking about. Oh. It

704
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: was such a wake up call. And I tell that

705
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: story to anybody who's having a bad day. I'm like, well,

706
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: you know what my friend Jojo said to me one

707
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: because it's just it's so good. It's so good. You

708
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: also said, was it you or was it Kelly Jefferson

709
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: who said my second favorite thing to me about a goat,

710
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: everything got takeout, messing up your lipstick? Oh, all right,

711
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: we need Key Jefferson. Kelly was our makeup artist. We'll

712
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: have to have her on next. Kelly Jefferson told me,

713
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, all of us, ladies, we went through some

714
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: falling ins and outs of love. And I'll never forget Kelly.

715
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: One day when we were all venting in the trailer,

716
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: going oh, girls, come on hey, he she goes love

717
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: and hater just two horns on the same goat, Southern

718
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: so good. So the two of you really gave us

719
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: some some jewels for our crown again. Yeah. Show love

720
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: you Joe, Joe, we love you so much. I love you, Joe,

721
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: But I tell you joy bye bye, honey bye. Oh

722
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: my god, my god. To be able to just pick

723
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: right back up with people back up, I feel like

724
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: I got really lucky because I went to go visit

725
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: jeff on set on The Walking Dead a few years ago,

726
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: and UM had got I didn't I didn't have George yet. Um,

727
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: so I bring gus to set and Taylor, who is

728
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: the key hairdresser on The Walking Dead, had done our pilot.

729
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: She was the hairdresser on the pilot, and it's only

730
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: when she didn't sign up to do the whole show

731
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: that Jojo came in and took over and they're like

732
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: best friends. So Taylor comes out of the trailer and goes,

733
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, wait until you see who's here. The

734
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: door flies open and Jojo comes running out and we

735
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: just like burst into tears, and it was Jeff's like,

736
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: why are you crying? What is going on right now?

737
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: But it's it's so nice to have those friendships that

738
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: are only born from like being together eighteen hours a day,

739
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: every single day, and they last forever. Yeah, I mean

740
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: being on set the way we all do it, both

741
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: with the location and the hours. You know. I joked

742
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: with a friend on a job recently that it's kind

743
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: of like an arranged marriage. Yes, Like you just show

744
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: up and you're married to this whole group of people

745
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: because you see these people way more than you see

746
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: anybody you might actually be married to or no, and

747
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: and you're just like in it for a decade and

748
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: you got to figure out Yeah, you gotta figure it out. Okay,

749
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we'll come right

750
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: back and have a little bit more to talk about

751
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: With this episode. Um, we had some Halie and Peyton connecting,

752
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: We had some some really nice acting work from James Lafferty,

753
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: and we also have a spinning wheel of most likely

754
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: to and some listener questions. So stayed everyone. We have news. Hi,

755
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: We're doing a virtual event in September in honor of

756
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: One Tree who are three. Everyone in the O t

757
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: H Fam knows it's our favorite day, and this event

758
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: is also going to benefit one of our favorite groups.

759
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: US Ladies are raising money for Kind Campaign because they

760
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: do incredible work in schools to end bullying and honestly,

761
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: our Tree Hill High School needed that. Yes, yes, so

762
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: there is a lot of information forthcoming, but check out

763
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: looped live dot com. They have everything right there and

764
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: more info will be added soon. So we can't wait

765
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: to see you guys. You want O th H Day.

766
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm realizing after reminiscing with Jojo,

767
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: our favorite gal on on planet One Tree Hill, he's

768
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: that she had that energy for us that you saw

769
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: in debb tonight when she was like, you smug son

770
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: of a bitch, I will stab you in your sleep.

771
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, I believe Barbara would do that for us.

772
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: And also JoJo's that kind of one, and she is

773
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: the one who's like, you mess with my girls, and

774
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: I'll bleach all your hair off. Yeah. By the way,

775
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: by the way, like a little nick on the ear here,

776
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: a little yeah, my curl and iron I'm so sorry.

777
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: She's one of those people who will come to your defense.

778
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 1: What a tea it was. It was cool to see

779
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Deb's escalation over the course of how many episodes does

780
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: have enjoy like, well, I guess for since she appeared,

781
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I think, um, but yeah, it's been a slow burn

782
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: and she, as we've said, she's handled it with class

783
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: the entire times, leading by examples, setting an example of

784
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: how to be patient and kind and loving but still

785
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: have boundaries. But this was the last straw not keep

786
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: a mother from her injured son, no way. Yeah. I

787
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: like seeing her blow a gasket. And I think you know,

788
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Barbara talked about this herself. She's like, once they saw

789
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: what I could do, you know that three episode arc,

790
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: it gave them ideas for other stuff, and so you

791
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: see the seed being planted for like intense deb later

792
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: down the road, the one that's like yelling to people

793
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: for fun, you know, like we're seeing her maybe enjoy it,

794
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: Like this feel's new, right. I really liked the scene

795
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: that you and I had Hillary in the with the library.

796
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: It feels good to have Jojo on for this episode

797
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: in particular because as someone that grew up with all brothers,

798
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: I always had difficulty communicating with girls my own age.

799
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: I could communicate with like older women because I grew

800
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: up doing theater with them, and I could communicate with

801
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: like little girls, but girls my own age I struggled with.

802
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: And Jojo was such a good girlfriend coach Like Jojo.

803
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: If I took something the wrong way, other people might

804
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: feed into it and be like, oh, that is messed up.

805
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: And Jojo was always like grow up, Like what's the problem. Okay,

806
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: that sounds dumb, you know, Like she was like, be

807
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: a good girlfriend, you show up, you listen, it's not

808
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: about you, you know, Like she didn't mince words, which

809
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: I needed. I needed a firm hand, and and she

810
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: was you know a lot of people treat actors with

811
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: kid gloves, and I think that well so that was

812
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: a problem on our show. I think every other department

813
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: has a department head, right, who sets the tone for

814
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: their department, can reprimand people. There's no department head for

815
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: the talent department, right, so we don't have meetings. Well

816
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: number one on the call sheet usually you know, the

817
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: is supposed to set the town. But but we were kids, kids, Yeah, yeah,

818
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: when when a kid is the number one a recipe

819
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: for disaster because when you're a kid, you don't know

820
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: what you're doing. What are they going to tell Moira?

821
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, right, that's a bad idea, Moira. Moira should

822
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: have been the department head of the great We need

823
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: a department head in our group. And so for me

824
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: personally to have Jojo be like, be a good girlfriend

825
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: and value your female friendships more than boys. You know,

826
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: she was always that cheerleader. But the scene, yeah, the

827
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: scene with Haley and Peyton is so important to me

828
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: personally because we struggled with all the sexuality stuff. And

829
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: I think it's the first time really that Peyton sounds

830
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: jealous that Haley is a virgin, you know, And I

831
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: think there are girls really like that out there. Yeah,

832
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: I know there are. I was one for sure in

833
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: high school, I mean, and that's why it was important

834
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: to me to read a line that way, because it

835
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: was written on paper as like an embarrassed like, so

836
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: what if I am, like, don't make fun of me,

837
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I like most of the girls

838
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: that I went to high school with were virgins for

839
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what happened after they graduated,

840
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: but at least you know, during the time that I

841
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: was there, like that that was the majority. And I

842
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: just wanted to represent that as a normal um option,

843
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, especially glad that they allowed

844
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: me to do that as well. I think it's important,

845
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: especially because for so long, and I know we're having

846
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: different conversations now, but we certainly were not in oh three.

847
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: For so long, virginity was represented as this thing that

848
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: like made you special but also made you prude, and

849
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: that guys would try to take but you shouldn't give them,

850
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: but then you shouldn't not because then you're a tease

851
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: and like, and then you're do and if you do, yeah, Like,

852
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: it was all wrapped up in the male gaze and

853
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: in the like traditional Madonna horror complex and all this

854
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: gross toxicity. And it was so refreshing to me not

855
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: being in the scene with you guys, just watching it,

856
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: to see two girls with two different experiences with the

857
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: same I wasn't even thinking about that. I was just thinking, like,

858
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: neither of them is being judged. Like, you make your

859
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: choices as a woman, and you do what you're ready for, period,

860
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to do with anybody else, or

861
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: a boy or anyone else is going to say to you.

862
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: And I loved that that neither Hayley or Peyton was

863
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: shamed in that scene. Neither of them was made better

864
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: than the other. They were just being supportive. And it's beautiful.

865
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, and you guys played it so beautifully.

866
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: And and Joy, I love that you made that choice

867
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: to be like so what like I like me, you know,

868
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: it was such a good but I'm into myself. Well

869
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: gave everyone permission. Yeah, that's yeah, I really wanted to.

870
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: That was a really intentional choice. And I remember that

871
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: they because I remember the way that it was written.

872
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: I remember it was like she was supposed to be embarrassed,

873
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: and I just was so I don't know if I

874
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: had to fight for that or if they just let

875
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: me um, I don't remember when we watched it. I

876
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't remember a shooting it. And the more we talk

877
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: about it, the more I remember, Like now now I'm

878
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: remembering the muscle memory of that scene, and I remember

879
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: it being a conversation. I remember it being like a

880
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: thing that you were very concerned about and you were like,

881
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: this is how it's happening, and that's the only way

882
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, which was awesome. Yeah, well, we

883
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: were all very conscious, as I said before, we were

884
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: conscious that there were young girls looking up to us,

885
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: and there was already a lot of sexualization happening on

886
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: the show from a male perspective, and it just it

887
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: was so it was just so important to me that

888
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: that there was a demographic represented in a positive way,

889
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, so that girls just that weren't making that

890
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: choice did feel comfortable with it and tattoos and they

891
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: just had somebody to identify with that was like, you know,

892
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: I like the way she's doing it, and that they

893
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: felt it wasn't like an embarrassment, it wasn't posturing or

894
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: trying to like make up for like, oh no, I

895
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: like it. It's fine. I'm a virgin. And we'll leave

896
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: me alone. You know, none of that. No, it was

897
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: just I wanted it to be confident and totally comfortable

898
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: with who she is. But anyway, we've talked to enough

899
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: about that, And I want to talk about James in

900
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: this episode because he is so damn good. I remember

901
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: he was working with a coach to an acting coach

902
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: was just such a testament to I mean, he's seventeen

903
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: or eighteen at the time, and so committed to this work,

904
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: so committed to doing a great job and showing up,

905
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: showing up on when without with the work done and

906
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: prepared and ready to just dive in and commit fully

907
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: emotionally to the scene. Not a not a lot of

908
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: young guys have that in them. Well, there's also a

909
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: lot of ego like I don't need a coach. I

910
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: don't need to you know, right, James was so willing

911
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: to do whatever it took to find it. And his

912
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: voice was the thing that really captured my attention because

913
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, that's a sick, sad kid. Yeah,

914
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: when he comes to Haley after the hospital incident, so

915
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: that that sound is heartbreaking. His voice sounds like broken glass. Yeah,

916
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: it does. It was such a great choice, and I

917
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: loved to thinking about the connection of these two scenes.

918
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: The moment between you two ladies and the tutoring center

919
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: makes it so clear when he's apologizing for his behavior

920
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: for pressuring her physically, saying that she was the one

921
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: he looked at like before he really blacked out, and

922
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: he admits his terror. He says, I was terrified and

923
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: then asks to stay. It's so clear that he just

924
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: wants to be held, he wants to sleep next to her,

925
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: and and I don't know if that would have been

926
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: as clear when she shuts the door if it hadn't

927
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: have been for the scene between the two of you,

928
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: and Haley owning her her choice to you know, wait,

929
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: to be intimate, and and it it just gave it.

930
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: It gave it this innocence and this vulnerability that oh,

931
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful scene between you. Thank you. I loved

932
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: it too, I thought, Um. I liked also that I

933
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: was a little I was I didn't remember shooting the scenes,

934
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: so I was a little unsure of what was going

935
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: to happen, and I was like, is this going to

936
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: go in the direction of Haley? Now it's gonna be

937
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: willing to sleep with him because she feels add for him,

938
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: because she wants to take care of him at home.

939
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Yeah, that's not the way. That's not

940
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: the way. Um. But yeah, I was a little unsured,

941
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: But it felt to me like when she shut the door,

942
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: it was more of a choice of like, I'm going

943
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: to do something that I'm not so I'm not supposed

944
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: to boy sleep over. But it's like Hayley's parents trusted

945
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: her and she wasn't. I'm having a boy sleepover to

946
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: have sex with him. I'm having this boy sleepover because

947
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: he needs me and I'm a good friend and I'm

948
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: a good you know. Um, I'm a good person, and

949
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna across the line that I'm not supposed to.

950
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: But it's not really doing anything that's breaking her own boundaries,

951
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Sorry, because there there

952
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: are so many incremental lines as a young woman, especially

953
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: before you choose to be in a physically intimate relationship,

954
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: Like you know, when he ruins it in the beginning

955
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: of the episode and you guys are making out and

956
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: then he tries to move on you and you're like

957
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: get out. It's like, remember a good old fashioned, just

958
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: high school makeout sweet and like we might know your husband,

959
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: we can tell him. But like there's all these things,

960
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, the first time you sleep next to someone,

961
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: it's such a big deal, and the and the beauty

962
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: and the like sweet youthful innocence of loving a person,

963
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: and like curling up and just going to sleep. It's

964
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: it's so nice and and to be able to go

965
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: back into that high school space and take all of

966
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: the much smaller, you know, increments is really lovely that

967
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: we get to do it with these two and that granted,

968
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: he pushes her too far, but she stands up for herself.

969
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: He gets out, he realizes he was pushing, he apologizes.

970
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, relationships can be a little complicated in those ways,

971
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: especially when you're young and fumbly and terrible. Um, young

972
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: boys can be terrible and uh, and I think to

973
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: figure out where everyone's boundaries are. It's lovely to see

974
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: it between two characters who are at different levels of sex.

975
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: I remember being told like, well, once a boy has sex,

976
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: like that's all he's ever gonna want, you know, like,

977
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: don't date the boys who were loose, because they'll expect

978
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: that from you. Always date like the Square Boys, which

979
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I never did. Um, but that was like a thing.

980
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: You know. You can't put Pandora's box, like you can't

981
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: close it once it's been opened, which I think is

982
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: And also it gives this notion of like, oh, boys

983
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: will be boys. Their hormones way too much power, and

984
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: it gives them excuses. It's like, no, you're gonna listen

985
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: to a woman you Consent is not a who said this?

986
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh sexy. She is one of my

987
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: favorite comedians. And she said, consent is not a feeling

988
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: you feel. It's a thing. She says. It has to

989
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: be clear like and and and I. We talked about

990
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: this a while back, but this actually feels like an

991
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: important thing to kind of get in the weeds on

992
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: being a human is messy, Okay, like getting into a

993
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: friendship is messy. We all talk about the messiness of

994
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: our friendships and our confusion at one It can be

995
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: a little messy when people are trying to figure out,

996
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: especially people who could potentially be interested in each other,

997
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: like does this person like me as a friend or

998
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: does this person like me romantically? Sometimes it means, um,

999
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, you get hit on by a guy, and

1000
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: you have to be like, oh, not into you that way,

1001
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Let's be friends, And that's okay, that's normal, having to

1002
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: figure out your boundaries as normal. And then there's obviously

1003
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: the other more complex, nightmarish spaces of abuses of power

1004
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: and harassment and things that we've also all been very open,

1005
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: and I think what can be really sticky for everybody

1006
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: is figuring out as we're trying to get much clearer

1007
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: as a society, where in our own experiences there, you know,

1008
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: as one of one, like where is there room to

1009
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: make a mistake or to ask or to say like, hey,

1010
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm very interested in you, and I don't know if

1011
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: you feel the same way, and if you don't, that's okay.

1012
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: Not trying to make you uncomfortable, Like nobody knows quite

1013
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: how to do it right. And and so one of

1014
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: the things I like is that we didn't smooth it

1015
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: over in the story and like make it all seem

1016
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: perfect and squeaky clean. Like Nathan screwed up, Haley stood

1017
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: up for herself. He said, I'm really sorry I pushed

1018
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: you that way. Like I like that we showed how

1019
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: you can overcome a mistake if you're willing to be

1020
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: communicative and be a good person is everything. It is everything.

1021
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: And by Haley closing the door at the end of

1022
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: that scene to me, that says apology accepted and I

1023
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: trust you not to do it again exactly, yes, you know,

1024
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: which is sweet. It's also, um, I'm jealous having watched

1025
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: this episode that you're seen turned out like loving and

1026
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: nice and Peyton was left at a door for twenty

1027
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: seven minutes, the three of us holy, like what is that? Also,

1028
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: the guys, I was on a soap opera for two years.

1029
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: That was the longest I ever saw, the longest unspoken

1030
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: look to look to look to look. You will also say,

1031
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: this is the second time in the first nine episodes

1032
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: that Brooke Davis has been used purely as a device

1033
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: to like make something happen for another person. So at

1034
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: the party, she's a nightmare to stir up the drama,

1035
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: so everyone, and now I've had to get a tattoo

1036
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: so we can cover Chad's real tattoo. And then but

1037
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: like interestingly, even though they were pretending to be grown

1038
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: ups at this bar, there were moments of sweetness, like

1039
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: looking Lucas joking about weird science and talking about what

1040
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: I loved that scene and then you get right back

1041
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: into like some ding dong boy always wanted a girl

1042
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: to say this to him. I come out of that

1043
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: bedroom going, you're ready to score the superstar, You're ready

1044
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: to score. It's so disgusting. I would never And the

1045
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: fact that the two girls never said we're best friends,

1046
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: and we don't even say you know nothing. Can we

1047
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: just promise that if we're ever kissing the same person

1048
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: in the you know, the next seventy decade, if we

1049
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: see each other, like let's say South Yeah, yeah, that's

1050
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: what we can do. Most likely to have a stare down,

1051
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: most happy to be in the world's longest soap opera scene,

1052
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: and Hillary, I want somebody to cut together all of

1053
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: the soap opera stairs, like the longest soap opera stairs,

1054
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: and just the stairs. That's why I want to love that. Oh.

1055
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: Speaking of the amazing things are fans do for us,

1056
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: and we did talk about Brook and Lucas having this

1057
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: pool shark evening at the Blue Post. One of you

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Speaker 1: guys tweeted me a photo of my plaque from the

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Speaker 1: Blue Post Beer club that is still up, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to say thank you very much. I really

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Speaker 1: like round from fans. All right, let's spin the wheel. Oh, guys,

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Speaker 1: mostly to marry someone twenty five years older than them.

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Speaker 1: We're not show it's Rachel, Yes, yes, that is true.

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Speaker 1: And Hillary, how much older than you is, Jeffrey, We're

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Speaker 1: a strong seventeen. That's pretty great. What I like is

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Speaker 1: that to him, I'll be twenty six forever like forever,

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Speaker 1: right Like That's that's the upside. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to be pet forever, you know, Joy, do we know

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Speaker 1: how much older than you Craig chefferd is because still

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Speaker 1: be single. I'm just saying I could break my record.

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Speaker 1: What a love story that? No, Listen, I think I think.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a girlhood crush. I think I'm okay,

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Speaker 1: it's graduated. But Joy, realistically though, you could beat my record.

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Speaker 1: So going to open up the search. Watson has a

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Speaker 1: question for us, and I'm gonna go on a limb

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Speaker 1: and say, in the first nine episodes, from an acting perspective,

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Speaker 1: what was the hardest scene to film, whether complex or

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Speaker 1: emotionally and physically grueling? Because if we try to do

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Speaker 1: that for the whole n you know, the whole other episode.

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Speaker 1: So it go so far in these first nine episodes,

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Speaker 1: what's been like, you know, the most complex for for

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Speaker 1: each of us to do? I mean, running red lights

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Speaker 1: felt really irresponsible. That was terrible, you know, but because

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Speaker 1: no one could really explain it to me. Um, I

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Speaker 1: had trouble with that. But I also had trouble with

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Speaker 1: the whole like Thud magazine, like it's my art, Lucy's

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Speaker 1: it's my art. Think that was hard for me to

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Speaker 1: give that speech. Are it's important? Are really really matters

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Speaker 1: to me? I felt like Zoolander. Honestly, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: for kids who can't read good. What do you got?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't think I've had

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Speaker 1: to do anything that's difficult yet everything. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: most difficult thing for me as an actor was the

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Speaker 1: basketball days when I just had to sit there and

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Speaker 1: you know that's just like a mental exercise and zen uh,

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Speaker 1: your ability to just like zen out. Um now, I

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Speaker 1: haven't not yet, not yet. I haven't had anything about Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just had so much like great charming, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was all pretty lighte from real talk. I think

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Speaker 1: the thing that was hardest for me, Yeah, like hooking

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Speaker 1: up with random dudes on camera just felt so gross

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Speaker 1: to me, like I don't know about this. Also, I

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Speaker 1: don't know you hear horror stories, and I remember just

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Speaker 1: thinking like is it inappropriate of me to ask to

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Speaker 1: guarantee that none of these people has like her piece

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Speaker 1: before they put their face on my face? Like it

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Speaker 1: always just made me feel so nervous. Um and then

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Speaker 1: the party episode was hard, like Brooke Brooke being what

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Speaker 1: what felt to me like cruel and having to find

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Speaker 1: interior motivations to create reasons for that. I was just like,

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Speaker 1: this feels sad. Mm hm. I like this question from Katie.

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Speaker 1: If Brooke, Haley, and Peyton were in high school today,

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Speaker 1: what would their Instagram handles be? I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: I'd be tutor Girl twenty three right, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean paint what was her? Hers was like punking disorderly?

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Speaker 1: There was what like she that was might be something

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Speaker 1: like grumpy, like go away, you know, don't look at me.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I see people who do this and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that takes a lot of confidence. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to borrow from other people, I think, because

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Speaker 1: mine is just my name. I think Brooks Instagram handle

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Speaker 1: would probably be at the Brooke Davis. Yes, there are

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Speaker 1: people out there who are at the and then their name,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, that takes confidence. I think that's

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Speaker 1: good question. Thank well, Thanks everybody for joining us for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Drew Rama Queens. Can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: you next week. What a great one. Next episode is

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Speaker 1: episode ten. We're getting into double digits babies. You gotta

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Speaker 1: go there to come back, which is kind of what

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Speaker 1: we're doing with this podcast. You know we're coming back. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Let's see you next week. Bye, Hey, thanks for listening.

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