1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Minneapolis Fed President Neil Kashkari saying that there has been 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: positive action on controlling inflation, but he thinks prices are 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: higher than policymakers are prepared to tolerate. Are we done 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: raising rates. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 3: I'm not ready to say that we're done in terms 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: of cutting rates. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: I think we're a long way away from cutting rates 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: because core inflation is. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: Still around four percent. 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: It's still around twice of what our target is. 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Beneficials have said that they're carefully assessing incoming data as 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: they craft policy. A report last week showed that inflation 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: continued to moderate in July, and today robust retail sales 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: data showed that US consumers continue to be resilient well. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Disappointing economic data from China is leading investment banks around 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: the world to cut their twenty twenty three growth forecast 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: for the country. Right at the top of the list, 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: it's JP Morgan Chase its full year economic growth forecast 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: for China from five percent to four point eight percent. 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: JP Morgan also shaving its GDP estimate for next year 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: now the firm's economists see in increasing drag on the 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: economy from the property sector that shouldn't come as a surprise. 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: JP Morgan also saying that China's moved to stop releasing 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: data on youth unemployment is quote disturbing. At the same time, 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: Barclays lowered its estiment for China's growth by about four 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 2: tenths of one percent to four and a half percent 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: this year, and Barclays cited faster than expected deterioration in 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the real estate market Brian. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Meantime, Vanguard, Blackrock, and some other firms embracing for even 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: more scrutiny over their investments in China Bloomberg's and Kates 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: as that story. 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 5: More than two thousand US mutual and exchange traded funds 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: have two hundred and ninety four billion dollars invested across 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: Chinese stocks and bonds, though not all of that money 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 5: is under scrutiny. On Capital Hill lawmakers launcher probe over 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 5: investments in Chinese companies deemed to be national security threats, 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 5: and money managers are prepared for tighter oversight. Plus, the 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: Biden administration has signed an executive order limiting specific investments 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 5: in China and key technology industries in Washington and Kates 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 5: Bloomberg Day Break Asia Well. 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: China is said to be buying the most Iranian crude 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: oil in a decade. The story from Bloomberg's Juan Wong 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: in Hong Kong. 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 6: The world's biggest oil importer, will take about one and 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 6: a half million barrels a day of crude from Iran 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 6: this month. That's according to Dalla intelligence firm Kepler. Rise 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 6: and global prices are making the discount recruit more attractive. 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 6: Around's two main grades are set to be trading at 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 6: discounts of more than ten dollars a barrel to Brent, 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 6: and that's considerably cheaper than Russian varieties. Iran has been 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: ramping up oil exports this year as it becomes more 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 6: geopolitically assertive. Most of the shipments are heading to China. 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 6: In Hong Kong, Join Wang Bloomberg. 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: Day brig Asia. 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: China is calling Taiwan's Vice president launching a quote complete 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: troublemaker who brings the risk of a fierce war. China's 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Taiwan Affairs Office issued a statement yesterday online. These were 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: based on comments from an exclusive interview that we presented 61 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg BusinessWeek, China said that Lie's comments on maintaining 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: a peaceful status quote are quote totally a lie. China's 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Foreign ministry has criticized the US repeatedly for arranging Li's 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: stopovers in the country. It said the visit seriously violates 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: the one China principle. Lai is currently visiting Paraguay, which 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: is one of the thirteen countries that Taiwan counts as 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: a diplomatic partner. Back in the US, shares of VinFast 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Auto soaring in the Nasdaq trading debut. The Vietnamese ev 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: makers now valued at eighty five billion dollars. That's more 70 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: than Ford or GM or even Mercedes Benz. The company 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: went through a blank check deal, a spack deal valued 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: at some twenty three billion. We heard from VinFast CEO Leetway. 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 7: We had been working on the US listing for like 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 7: two years and we're very happy that we met it. 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 5: Today. 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 7: Binfast has become a publicly listed companies in the US. 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 7: It's not just a it's not a marketing. It's just 78 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 7: a milestone that we want to achieve as on path 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 7: of becoming a global company. 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Vin Fast merged with Plank Check Company, Black Spade acquisition, 81 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: and vin Fast plans to begin operations at it's North 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Carolina factory in twenty twenty five. Well, markets are a 83 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: little bit confused here, Doug, and you can kind of 84 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: understand it. The two biggest data points that we saw 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: in the past twenty four hours stronger US retail sales 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: and China's weak numbers. They would seem to be at 87 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: odds and telling very different stories. And the other thing 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: is that investors are grappling with this dilemma. The consensus 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: at the moment is that earnings are projected higher next 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: year and rates lower. If that's in question, well then 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: the multiples are too high, and you'll see the kind 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: of selling we saw today. 93 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: That may have been playing out a bit in the 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: treasury market. This sense of division that you described Brian 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: players in the bond market seem to be shortening duration 96 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: a bit today, So we had to push up in 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: long rates with the tenure rising about two basis points. 98 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: So remember the kind of inverse relationship between prices and yields, 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: So prices down today, moving more to the short end, 100 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: prices up and the yield down about a basis point 101 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: to four ninety five. So I think that's consistent to 102 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: what you're saying. And let's remember with cash, Kari is 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: kind of alluding to, right, that we're not in a 104 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: position here to talk about lower interest rates anytime soon. 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: And now it's time for Global news. US President Joe 106 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Biden says he will visit Maui soon. At Baxter has 107 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Global News from him nine to sixty News from in 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Ed. 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, right, Brian. He's been under fire by people from 110 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 8: the island and Republicans on the main line for not 111 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 8: being visible enough on securing help during the island's population. 112 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: Want to be sure we don't disrupt the Ongonger recovery effort. 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, he says it has been active and spoken to 114 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 8: Governor Josh Green on multiple accounts. 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: Almost five hundred federal personnelment deployed de Maui. Tell communities 116 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: and survivors get back on their feet. FEMA search and 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: rescue teams are sifting through the ashes in that five 118 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: mile area. 119 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, he says he and his wife Jill will visit soon. 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 8: As for the burned out area, Governor Green says there 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 8: are multiple environmental problems going on there now. 122 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 9: There is asbestos in the air down there, and they're 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 9: heavy metals, and we're getting environmental assessments as rapidly as 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 9: we can from Department of Health, and EPA is here. 125 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 8: And Green says we have an experience in what happened 126 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 8: at the nine to eleven sites and have learned from it. 127 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 8: Hopefully the death toll now stands at least ninety nine, 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 8: but surely we'll climb. The state says we'll begin releasing 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 8: identities of those bodies recovered soon. Georgia indictment against Donald 130 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 8: Trump is far more rich, far reaching, and potentially damaging 131 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 8: than any of the other three. The most problematic for 132 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 8: Trump is the racketeering. The central count in the indictment, 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 8: now including one hundred and sixty one specific acts in 134 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 8: the further ince of a conspiracy. The cab County is 135 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 8: just north of Fulton, and former District Attorney Gwen keys 136 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 8: Fleming says the use of the Rico statute makes it 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 8: very severe. 138 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 10: The case in Georgia is very unique and distinct from 139 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 10: some of the other charges, either in New York or federally, 140 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 10: largely because of the inability to obtain an immediate pardon 141 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 10: if there is a conviction. 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 8: And Fleming says the Georgia pardon laws also require completion 143 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 8: of a full sentence before a pardon can be granted. 144 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 8: As well. 145 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 10: The Rico statute at least has a mandatory minimum of 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 10: five years. Some of the other charges have or Rico 147 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 10: has a maximum twenty years. Other charges range from one 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 10: to ten years. As I recall, so it really these 149 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 10: are serious charges. 150 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 8: And Fulton County DA Fani Willis has ordered all nineteen 151 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 8: defendants to surrender by August twenty fifth, says she wants 152 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 8: to try them together within the six months. They're eighteen 153 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 8: others charged in Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson says she would not 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 8: be surprised if the plan was to get one of 155 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 8: them or more to flip. 156 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: They are now facing prison time in Georgia State prison, 157 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: not you know, club fed or anything. And it is 158 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 3: the idea is that, yes, that one of them will 159 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: look at the charges and say do I really want 160 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: to go to prison for Donald Trump? 161 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 8: And Trump says, you'll hold a news conference on Monday. 162 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 8: Hong Kong resident departures have climbed to their highest level 163 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 8: since COVID. This outflow shows the region as far from 164 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 8: regaining its mantle as the business hub and tourist destination 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 8: in Asia. Global news powered by more than twenty seven 166 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 8: hundred journalists and analysts in over one hundred twenty country 167 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 8: in San Francisco, I'm at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. 168 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Bran Curtis in Hong 169 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: Kong along with Vonnie Quinn in New York, and Aaron 170 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Gibbs joins a senior partner and CIO at Main Street 171 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Asset Management. Aaron, great to have you with us in 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: our studios there in New York. So you probably heard 173 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: me mention that consensus here is that earnings will be 174 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: ratcheted higher next year and rates are projected to be lower. 175 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: And I said, if that's in question, do you think 176 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: both of those are in question? Or either? Or if so, 177 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: which one? 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 11: Now? I agree with that. I think it's really about 179 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 11: the timing, and I think it's what ANALYSTA really doing 180 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 11: is pushing everything farther down the road. So originally we've 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 11: been saying in the first half of the year, and 182 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 11: now it's sort of being pushed back to Okay, most 183 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 11: of this is going to happen in the second half 184 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 11: of the year. So I think the hope is still there, 185 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 11: but it's just getting more and more delay. We haven't 186 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 11: Wall Street hasn't quite digest that it may not even 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 11: be until twenty twenty five. 188 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 12: Are we suddenly confused again as to what the Fed 189 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 12: is going to do next? 190 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 11: I think, well, partially because we're also just getting conflicting 191 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 11: news within our own no neck on global versus what's 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 11: happening in the US, and certainly it is quite hard 193 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 11: to digest. And I think that's interesting just what's been 194 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 11: happening in the marketplace, whether you're looking at what's happening 195 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 11: and how people are shifting in treasuries, what's going on 196 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 11: in the equity markets. But we haven't seen a real 197 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 11: spike in the VIX. Some of the fear gauges, a 198 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 11: lot of those are still very stable and at lows. 199 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 11: And so even though we've seen these sell offs for 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 11: the past five days, in a big sell off today, 201 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 11: the VIX has been relatively low, and so I think 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 11: that's sort of indicative of people not really seeing some 203 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 11: good signs, seeing some negative signs, and not really ready 204 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 11: to completely pull the trigger across the board and be 205 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 11: completely pull out of the equity markets within the US. 206 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: It is interesting to contrast these strong retail sales numbers 207 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: in the US with the weak numbers overall that we 208 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: got out of China, and so I'm interested in your 209 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. We're also running a piece on the 210 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Terminal that talks about how the deflation in China may 211 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: not be such a bad thing. If it exports deflation, 212 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: it'll help the central banks in their job absolutely. 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 11: You know, we know that that can have a big impact, 214 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 11: particularly on the commodity side and energy, and certainly, even 215 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 11: though we love to t about core x food and energy, 216 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 11: that does make a big impact. And so I think 217 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 11: that would be very helpful, and that's something that the 218 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 11: FED would certainly look at. On the other side, the 219 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 11: US consumer and their ability to still be willing to spend. 220 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 11: You know, we know that it's at a certain point 221 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 11: that is going to have to wear out. You know, 222 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 11: we know that cash reserves are going down. We know 223 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 11: that just the higher interest rates and just the outlook 224 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 11: from corporations has been significantly revised down. We're seeing less 225 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 11: m and a activity higher bankruptcies. So we're seeing weakening 226 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 11: already within the corporate arena. So while the US consumer 227 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 11: still feels very confident that that fear again just not 228 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 11: seeing the Vixen index, but the consumers shifting their behavior 229 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 11: could follow. 230 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 12: Can I just say, you're extraordinarily brave because you have 231 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 12: picks that are very short term one to two months, 232 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 12: so go us tell Maren sure. 233 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 11: So, look, I want to be able to trade this. 234 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 11: We have seen a real shift. It's been about a 235 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 11: four week shift from those megacap technologies into something that's 236 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 11: a little more defensive and let's use it, you know, 237 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 11: while it's there. So some of my picks are energy. 238 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 11: I think actually today the energy sector was down about 239 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 11: two and a half percent. I actually think this is 240 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 11: a good place to come in, you know, buy on 241 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 11: sort of that negative news because the energy trend overall 242 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 11: is still up and very strong. So I think you 243 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 11: could get you another few weeks out of that. Another thing, 244 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 11: while we're going on the defensive, that has been outperforming 245 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 11: just in the past again in the past two weeks, 246 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 11: and it's just a new trend is healthcare, particularly managed healthcare, 247 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 11: and a high quality company that's just a safe bet 248 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 11: to get into. One of my favorites is United Healthcare. Ooh, 249 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 11: this is trading so much. It's peroting at about a 250 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 11: fifteen percent discount to a lot of its peers. 251 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 7: You know, decent. 252 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 11: Outlook for twenty twenty four, even better for twenty twenty five. 253 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 11: So I think, as long as we're seeing this sort 254 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 11: of counter trend, defensive trend, which might continue for again 255 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 11: about one to two months, United Healthcare very safe bet 256 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 11: very little downside, and already breaking through resistance on the upside. 257 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 11: So I think an easy play if you want something 258 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 11: to while we're in this sort of I don't know 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 11: what to do mode. 260 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and h was bulletproof last year and everything 261 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: was stumbling. It had pretty good run and then completely 262 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: out of favor of the early part of this year. 263 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: So we know that mean reversion tree do happen. And 264 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: you're suggesting it'll go back the other direction, it's already started. 265 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: That give me a mean reversion trade you like with 266 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: China in mind, you know. 267 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 11: I'm not as familiar with China. 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