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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous, young twenty seven

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Speaker 1: seen again. In the last hours, a major break in

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Speaker 1: the search for Olivia Samantha Vowler. I'm Nancy Grace. This

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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here at

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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Sirius x SEM one eleven. In the

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Speaker 1: last hours, we learn human remains have been confirmed to

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Speaker 1: be that of a twenty seven year old mom, Olivia

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Speaker 1: Samantha Fowler. Take a listen to our friends at w XIA.

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Speaker 2: ELEVENI they just identified human remains as a twenty six

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Speaker 2: year old mother who went missing from Metro Atlanta almost

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Speaker 2: two years ago. So we first told you about Olivia

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Speaker 2: Fowler in August of twenty twenty one, when she went

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Speaker 2: missing from Meriwether County. According to the Sheriff's office, they

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Speaker 2: received a tip and located remains in a ruraled part

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Speaker 2: of the county. Well this past decembery all, this is

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Speaker 2: when this took place, and just yesterday authorities met with

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Speaker 2: Olivia's family to tell them about it. Now, the Sheriff's

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Speaker 2: office says that this case has now shifted from a

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Speaker 2: missing person's case to a death investigation.

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Speaker 1: The family asking they be allowed to grieve with this

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Speaker 1: news and that we be supportive of them at this time.

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Speaker 1: But who killed Olivia? A mother, a daughter, a sister,

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Speaker 1: a grandchild, Her family relling? But how did the whole

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Speaker 3: Take a Listen to Crime on Lines John Lemley Authorities

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Speaker 3: Ryweather County, Georgia or asking for the public's help in

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Speaker 3: locating a missing woman. Twenty six year old Olivia Fowler

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Speaker 3: was last seen on August thirteenth, twenty twenty one. She

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Speaker 3: am in the city of Manchester. Fowler was then seen

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Speaker 3: again at ten thirty am walking along Pebblebrook Road in

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Speaker 3: Merriweather County. Fowler was said to be wearing a tidy shirt,

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Speaker 3: white cutoff shorts, and black flipflops. She's approximately one hundred

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Speaker 1: This is a beautiful young mom lassie wearing a tied

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Speaker 1: eyed t shirt, white shorts and flip flops. What happened?

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Speaker 1: How could she be there taking a walk and then

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Speaker 1: now she's gone and nobody knows anything with me an

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Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of what we know

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Speaker 1: right now. Now you just heard about her going missing.

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Speaker 1: I want to go straight out to her aunt. This

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Speaker 1: is Tamara McCoy. She is the creator of Olivia's Army

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Speaker 1: and you can find her on Twitter at Olivia's Army

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Speaker 1: twenty six. Tamara, and thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: When did you first learn that Olivia seemingly vanished?

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Speaker 4: I was notified on August fourteenth, about three point thirty

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Speaker 1: Where were you when you got the call?

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Speaker 4: I was actually working in Manchester.

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Speaker 1: Where do you work? I have my own business. I'm

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Speaker 1: a residential cleaner. So you're at your business, you're doing

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Speaker 1: your business and you get a call from who her sister?

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Speaker 1: And what were you told?

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Speaker 4: Dad? Olivia was missing and nobody had seen or heard

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Speaker 1: Okay, just what you don't want to hear. Now, you

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Speaker 1: are her aunt. What is your relation? Were you guys closed?

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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, I actually had custody of Olivia and Rot

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like my brother and his wife said,

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Speaker 1: builds a bond. It's like they're your child in a way, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, I had. I was there when Olivia was

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Speaker 1: She slept in the bell with me and she was

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Speaker 1: right now, and she is gorgeous. That is one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But I've got to say she's stunning now. Of course,

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Speaker 1: another side to that, she's out walking and she's alone

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Speaker 1: walking and suddenly goes missing with me is Olivia Fowler's aunt,

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Speaker 1: Tamara McCoy tomorrow, What were you told about the conditions

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Speaker 4: I was just told that she went out on the

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's so many things wrong with that story. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where to start. Let me just straight out

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Speaker 1: to Lisa Daddio, former police lieutenant with a New Haven

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Speaker 1: PD and she's a senior lecturer at the director and

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Speaker 1: director of the Center for Advance Policing. Okay, at University

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Speaker 1: of New Haven. Lisa, thank you, for being with us.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot missing from that story, and it's not

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Speaker 1: Aunt Tamara's fault. She's telling us what she's told. She

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Speaker 5: Lisa Nancy, It's really hard to wrap my head around

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Speaker 5: as well, especially in this day and age when everybody's

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Speaker 5: aware of everything going on, and how does somebody just

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm just looking at pictures of her, you know, Jackie,

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Speaker 1: if you looked at her, she looks like some TV

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Speaker 6: She reminds me of Gabby Patita.

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Speaker 1: She does look a little like Gabby Potato. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking of Catherine is it Hagel or Higel Higel? It

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Speaker 1: looks like she looks like Catherine Heigel And she looks like, oh, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: my daughter has recently gotten into gossip girls. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen that Okay, I know more about it now

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Speaker 1: than I ever want to say. Blake Lively, they're all great, Okay.

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Speaker 1: The mother, the mother of Blake Lively, that's who she

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Speaker 1: looks like. That's who she looks like, except a younger,

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Speaker 1: a younger. Versions she's beautiful. Guys, we're talking to Olivia

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Speaker 1: Fowler's aunt and I have by your name like a

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Speaker 1: mom to Olivia. Yes, ma'am. And the reason I often

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Jackie? Is you know what? Let me

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Speaker 1: go to Amanda para Alta joining me, investigative reporter. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't already go to you. Amanda Parolta

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Speaker 1: her on Twitter at Amanda Peralta TV. Tell me about

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Speaker 1: her missing She goes out for a cigarette. She is

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Speaker 1: later seen taking a walk down the street and then suddenly, bam,

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Speaker 1: she's gone. First of all, let's start with the area.

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Speaker 1: Where did this happen? Exactly?

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Speaker 7: So this happened on Pebblebrook Road, which is located in Manchester, Georgia.

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Speaker 5: It's the very rural.

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Speaker 7: Area of small town southwest Georgia. The population is about

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Speaker 7: three nine and eighty two people.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, Amanda, three thousand and eighty two people,

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Speaker 1: nine eighty two, nine hundred eighty two, so about four thousand,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about Meriwether County, right, Yes, ma'am. That

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Speaker 1: is some of the prettiest country side I think in

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Speaker 1: you cook on a fire and hot goals, that whole

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Speaker 1: on looking and said, this looks like heaven. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if this is what heaven looks like. And that's the

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Speaker 1: Tell me how this went down. She was seen walking

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Speaker 7: Yes, so family has confirmed to me and police have

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Speaker 7: confirmed that Olivia was walking down Pebblebrook Road. The last

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, waite hold that thought, Amanda. You know what,

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Speaker 1: Let me go to you. Natalie Kwam is with us.

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Speaker 1: You should know that name, and I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: Vanessa gim remember Vanessa, the gorgeous young soldier at Fort

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Speaker 1: the very least, they weren't doing their jobs. Amen, Natalie.

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Speaker 1: It can be found at the whistle blower waw Firm

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Speaker 1: Qwamlaw dot com. Natalie, it's so great to speak to

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Speaker 9: Nancy, thanks for having me on. You know when I

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Speaker 9: heard with Vanessa when they said they saw her walking

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Speaker 9: her walking across the parking lot. But it was three

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Speaker 9: guys quote unquote smoking a cigarette that said this. And

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Speaker 9: of course, everybody wants to go with whatever the whatever

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure what happened with Vanessa's case, and Vanessa

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Speaker 9: never walked across the parking lot. Vanessa was murdered, budgeoned

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Speaker 9: dusk in the armory rooms. So those facts didn't help,

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Speaker 9: or I should say those witness statements didn't help because

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Speaker 9: problem really was, which was in the armory room, like

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Speaker 1: But I think this is I think that this is

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Speaker 1: very credible because a lot of times people will say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I saw her here, I saw her there. You've got

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Speaker 1: an officer with the Department of Natural Resources seeing Olivia Fowler,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a pretty darn good witness.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I'm not doubting anyone's witness statements, but

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Speaker 9: So again I can't say what's true or not. What

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Speaker 10: Where is that?

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Speaker 9: Where are the authorities? What's happening you? Like you said,

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Speaker 9: people just don't vanish, No, they don't.

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Speaker 1: She's been gone for thirty eight days today. Her baby

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Speaker 9: You know, Nancy Luli Evan, some kind of habit is admissible.

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Speaker 9: Agree with all of you. Moms don't miss her kid's birthdays.

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Speaker 9: you know. And I saw her her beautiful face, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: I think you were talking about Kelly Rutherfurst.

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Speaker 13: The town of Manchester is about two hours south of Atlanta.

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Speaker 13: The Mereweather County Sheriff's Office says Olivia Fowler was last

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Speaker 1: Straight back out to Tamara McCoy. This is Olivia's aunt

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Speaker 1: that helped raise her. Tamara, you go up and down

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Speaker 1: GRAD program. Lisa, why is the family having to go

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Speaker 5: It shouldn't be happening. But as we've seen more time

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, Lisa, Daddy,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you throwing the local police and sheriffs a bone,

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Speaker 1: Why is the family out trying to get ring camera?

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Speaker 6: That's a great question. An I've seen Aunt Tammy knee

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Speaker 4: She was ignored for thirty eight days before she was

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Speaker 1: Meriweather Sheriff's office said she might be taking a break. Okay,

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Speaker 9: Kind of fact she didn't take her driver relation. Since

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Speaker 6: The problem is once this narrative is released by law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's taking a break now.

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Speaker 7: counties and states have been searched, and there have been

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Speaker 7: land and air operation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is heartening, That is very heartening, Amanda Peralta.

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Speaker 1: When may I ask where those searches initiated? How far

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Speaker 1: into her being missing? Did we have a search and

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Speaker 1: do not have a specific d R? Okay, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to hear that. That makes me feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. What about Tamara? When did they start performing

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Speaker 1: air searches? I haven't heard.

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Speaker 4: I just heard a helicopter was going through the town,

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Speaker 4: but I was told they were looking for someone that

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Speaker 4: was stealing from lawn Moor's or something, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: know that it was anything to do with Olivia. I

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Speaker 4: haven't seen him do any searches, and I've planned searches

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Speaker 4: weekly all the time, and you know, with only three

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Speaker 4: and four ten.

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Speaker 1: People at the most have showed up and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: grew up in this town, and you know this is

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Speaker 1: my hometown.

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Speaker 4: And when the cheap the sheriff of the town tells

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Speaker 4: you let me know when you find her, then that

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Speaker 4: shows you that there's issues.

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Speaker 1: Did the sheriff say that Chuck Smith did? Who is

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Speaker 1: Chuck Smith? He's the chief sheriff. He's the sheriff of

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Speaker 1: the county jail. What's his name again? What is his name?

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Speaker 1: Chuck Smith? He is the what he runs the county jail?

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Speaker 1: Let me know when you find her. Yes, ma'am. Guys,

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Speaker 1: this young mom missing and the days are ticking by.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at WSBTV.

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Speaker 10: They're worried, of very worried that something terrible may have

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Speaker 10: happened to her. That's why they're very relieved to hear

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Speaker 10: that investigators here at the FBI have been working on

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Speaker 10: this case. They hope they might be able to find

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Speaker 10: the answers they've been waiting nine months for.

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Speaker 9: Definitely, falplay was definitely involved.

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Speaker 10: Yes, The family of twenty seven year old Olivia Fowler

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Speaker 10: fears something awful happened. Her mother and sister told us.

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Speaker 10: They're worried someone may be holding Olivia against her will.

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Speaker 1: She's somewhere where she can't get to us. She somewhere

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Speaker 1: she can't get to a phone. Someone's told in her

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Speaker 1: is how I think.

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Speaker 15: I just feel that something wrong or something bad's happened.

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Speaker 10: We went to the rural road in Meriweather County where

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Speaker 10: Olivia was last seen in August of last year. It's

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Speaker 10: here along Pebblebrook Road in Manchester where a witness spotted

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Speaker 10: Olivia walking then she seemingly vanished.

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Speaker 4: I believe that she had been walking and someone picture

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Speaker 4: that wasn't.

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Speaker 1: The right people. Someone picture up that wasn't the right people.

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Speaker 1: Okay to Tamara McCoy, why do you believe that? Because

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Speaker 1: we did.

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Speaker 4: Also have a tip that Olivia was seen at the

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Speaker 4: end of in that same area talking to a four

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Speaker 4: door Sedan gray or Tan, and that she got in

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Speaker 4: the vehicle, and law enforcement said that the guy that

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Speaker 4: reported the tip was did it make sense?

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Speaker 1: What about that didn't make sense? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I guess the way he talked his country, you know,

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Speaker 4: and maybe not clear enough for him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Well, I hardly think that a rural

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Speaker 1: background makes you a moron.

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Speaker 4: I agree, he's actually this gentleman. He reaches out frequently

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Speaker 4: just to see if we've heard anything, and just wonders

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Speaker 4: why nothing has been done.

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Speaker 14: And you know, I even sent him a picture of

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Speaker 14: a couple vehicles possibly could have been it, and he

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Speaker 14: actually recognized.

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Speaker 9: Him a couple.

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Speaker 1: What kind of car? Does he think it was? A

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Speaker 1: Ford Focus Ford Focus Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Ella.

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Speaker 1: Law enforcement has announced that human remains found have been

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Speaker 1: confirmed to be that of twenty seven year old mom

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Speaker 1: Olivia Samantha Fowler lasting walking along pebble Brook Road in

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Speaker 1: rural Meriweather County. How has this happened? Guys? I want

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Speaker 1: you to take a listen to our friends at crime Online.

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Speaker 15: The last known credible sighting of Fowler was by a

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Speaker 15: Georgia dn R officer on Friday. He reported seeing Fowler

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Speaker 15: walking along pebble Brook Road in Meriweather County. Investigators began

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Speaker 15: canvassing the area, falling up with witnesses besides the DNR

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Speaker 15: officer who reported seeing Fowler. Ground and aerial searches were conducted,

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Speaker 15: even outside the county and state Canaine. Searches were conducted

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Speaker 15: and more than twenty search warrants executed, but there are

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Speaker 15: no leads. The FBI is now joined in the search.

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Speaker 15: Fowler's family also launched a social media campaign on Facebook

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Speaker 15: hashtag bring Olivia Home to help find her.

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Speaker 1: Now, what do we know about the night before she

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Speaker 1: is seeing for the last time? Take a listener our

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Speaker 1: friends at WXIA eleven.

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Speaker 11: Olivia was reported missing after seeing a man she was dating.

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Speaker 11: According to her aunt. Police have not named him as

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Speaker 11: a suspect and reported she went missing wearing a tank

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Speaker 11: top and flip flops. McCoy drives around in their hometown

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Speaker 11: in Meriweather County endlessly looking for her niece.

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Speaker 1: I got her clothes in the backseat of my car.

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Speaker 3: I've had him riding around with him.

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Speaker 8: For four weeks now because what AD says, she had

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Speaker 8: no shoes and only a tank talk.

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Speaker 1: So I will make sure she's got what she needs.

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Speaker 1: You are hearing the voice of Olivia's aunt. This is

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Speaker 1: Tamara McCoy. Tamara, you just says something that reminds me

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Speaker 1: of Beth Holloway. That's Natalie Holloway's mother. She and I

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Speaker 1: recently went back to Aruba to retrace Naalie's steps and

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Speaker 1: see if we could generate more leads and her disappearance.

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Speaker 1: I believe her murder. And she told me that for

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Speaker 1: I think ten years after Natalie went missing, she never

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Speaker 1: went anywhere without Natalie's passport because she held out hope

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Speaker 1: that Natalie had been kidnapped and sold into the sex

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Speaker 1: trade and that she would be found alive in some

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Speaker 1: other country and would need her passport. And here I

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Speaker 1: am hearing that you ride around with Olivia's clothes in

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Speaker 1: the backseat of your car in case she needs them

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Speaker 1: when you find her.

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Speaker 8: Well, she's tiny, and I know if she's out there,

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Speaker 8: she's cold, and she's got no shoes, and I know

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Speaker 8: they set a tank top and shorts, and I was

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Speaker 8: just she doesn't have her stuff and I just felt

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Speaker 8: like I wanted to have it when I found her.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Caitlin ross.

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Speaker 11: Meriweather County police told Living Alive, Olivia's case is open

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Speaker 11: and they are actively searching for her, but did not

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Speaker 11: share any new information.

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Speaker 4: We've followed leads, we've organized searches, we've got flyers out,

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Speaker 4: and you spent thirty eight days Today.

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Speaker 11: McCoy says she's holding out hope that Olivia is alive,

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Speaker 11: that she'll come back to her family.

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Speaker 1: Her last words is I love you at all my heart.

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Speaker 11: Tamara says she tells Olivia's children every day how much

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Speaker 11: their mom loves them, and then if she could be,

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Speaker 11: she would be there with them.

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Speaker 1: Right now to Karen Start joining us renowned psychologists joining

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Speaker 1: us out of Manhattan at Karenstart dot com. Karen. Unless

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Speaker 1: we solve this case, these children may grow up buying

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Speaker 1: into what the sheriff said if she just took a break.

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Speaker 1: Unless we solve this case, the rest of their lives

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Speaker 1: are going to be played with abandonment.

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Speaker 12: Well, Nancy, not just abandonment, but grief over the loss

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Speaker 12: and not knowing. That's the key ingredient here, is that

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Speaker 12: you never get to know what happened, and so that

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Speaker 12: just leaves you in the state where you're searching.

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Speaker 1: You're searching.

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Speaker 12: I think the great example is you're driving around with

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Speaker 12: clothes in the car, I mean hoping, and you don't

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Speaker 12: give up hope. And that's not okay to spend your

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Speaker 12: whole life hoping that somehow your mom who disappeared will

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Speaker 12: show up again. It's heartbreaking to.

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Speaker 1: Think that, Wow, my mom just got tired of us.

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Speaker 1: Was that my fault? He just left? What more do

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Speaker 1: we know? Take a listen to our friends at crime online.

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Speaker 15: On Thursday, Olivia Fowler stated at her boyfriend's house in Manchester, Georgia.

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Speaker 15: It's a small town about two hours south of Atlanta.

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Speaker 15: The boyfriend tells Olivia's sister, Roxanne, as he went to

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Speaker 15: bed that night, Olivia said she would be outside on

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Speaker 15: the porch for a bit. When he woke up, Olivia

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Speaker 15: was gone. Witnesses reported seeing Fowler walking in the community

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Speaker 15: early that Friday morning. A Georgia Department of Natural Resources

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Speaker 15: officer reported seeing her walking at ten am. On Saturday,

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Speaker 15: Roxanne Fowler's mother called and asked if she had talked

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Speaker 15: with Olivia. When no one can find Fowler, a missing

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Speaker 15: person report was filed.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about the boyfriend that was

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Speaker 1: with her the night before? I know, she was saying,

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Speaker 1: after the night she spent at his place, But what

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Speaker 1: can you tell me about him? Has he been ruled out? No, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't.

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Speaker 14: He was actually never labeled as a person of interest,

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Speaker 14: but they did have a history of domestic altercation with

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Speaker 14: him and Olivia and two other gentlemen where he was

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Speaker 14: holding her against her will. I was able to retrieve

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Speaker 14: some messages between the two of them where he made

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Speaker 14: a comment, You'll walk away one day and never be

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Speaker 14: seen again.

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Speaker 1: And he was never labeled a person of interest, no, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: They questioned him.

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Speaker 14: They said that he just said he went to sleep

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Speaker 14: and when he woke up, she was gone.

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Speaker 1: After that hot day in August, Olivia Samantha Fowler was

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Speaker 1: never seen again and now her family really devastated with

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Speaker 1: the news her remains have been identified. Take a listener

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Speaker 1: our friends at WSB TV.

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Speaker 16: Back then, her mother and sister told investigators they suspect

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Speaker 16: it thou play. More than a year later, in December

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Speaker 16: of twenty twenty two, human remains were found in Meriweather County,

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Speaker 16: but not identified until now to be Olivia Fowler. The

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Speaker 16: county is now classifying this once missing person case as

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Speaker 16: a death investigation, telling us there is still evidence to

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Speaker 16: be analyze and process before releasing any other details. The

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Speaker 16: FBI says it will continue to work with Meriwether County

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Speaker 16: to help solve this case for the Fowler family.

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Speaker 1: As it stands at this hour, no arrest made in

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Speaker 1: the death of missing mom Olivia Samantha Fowler. We wait

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Speaker 1: as justice unfolds. Good Bye, friend,