Speaker 1: To us byers touch style by Waddle snucked into the
Speaker 1: end zone of Miami Boy tight froll Tike window. They
Speaker 1: had to get that touchdown on that play. They get it.
Speaker 1: What is up, Dolph fans and welcome to the Drivetime Podcast,
Speaker 1: part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team,
Speaker 1: your Miami Dolphins. How's it going everybody? I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield And on today's show, we've got a great
Speaker 1: one for YouTube. Fantastic guest. First in house Assistant general
Speaker 1: manager Marvin Allen joins me to talk about the scouting
Speaker 1: processes behind to a tongue of Byloa, Jalen Waddle, Ray
Speaker 1: Kwon Davis, and Big Rob Hunt. You won't want to
Speaker 1: miss that. Plus Brett Coleman from the Film Room on
Speaker 1: YouTube and the Bootleg Football podcast stops by to continue
Speaker 1: our draft preview series taking a look at the defensive
Speaker 1: backs in this year's class, whilst talk about Javon Holland
Speaker 1: and xaviing Howard and he'll rave about the depth of
Speaker 1: this Dolphins group in the secondary from somewhere in South Florida.
Speaker 1: This is the Drivetime Podcast. I don't want to waste
Speaker 1: any time on this podcast is a two great guests.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get first to assistant Dolphin general
Speaker 1: manager Marvin Allen. What's up, Dolphins. I'm Travis Wingfield. I'm
Speaker 1: joining here today by Marvin Allen. Marvin, welcome in to
Speaker 1: our little set here, and thanks for joining us. Pleasure
Speaker 1: to be. We're happy to have you on and I
Speaker 1: want to basically have a little sit down with you
Speaker 1: and just kind of introduced the fans to to who
Speaker 1: you are, what you do, and and kind of the
Speaker 1: process behind all the stuff we're doing here Indianapolis this
Speaker 1: week and all of the draft process. Why don't we
Speaker 1: go ahead and start with what is your title and
Speaker 1: roll with Miami Dolphins. I am the assistant general manager
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. I kind of help in a lot
Speaker 1: of areas with college and pro. Scouting is dividing in
Speaker 1: into two different sections. College, which is why we're here,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at college guys coming out and pro guys,
Speaker 1: which are guys who are going to be free agents
Speaker 1: that we will you know, pursue. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: a couple of players you guys have brought into the
Speaker 1: program over the last several years. And while we go
Speaker 1: ahead and go to Alabama and start with quarterback to
Speaker 1: a tongue of byloa just off the top, were some
Speaker 1: things that really stood out about Toah's personality, his makeup
Speaker 1: that made you think that he was a fit for
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins when you first kind of started the
Speaker 1: process there. Well, if you remember the way to have
Speaker 1: first came into the game in Alabama, he came and
Speaker 1: came in and rescued him, you know, in the championship
Speaker 1: game and just showed all the poise and you know,
Speaker 1: instincts and anticipation that you would want to see it
Speaker 1: and to do it as such a high level at
Speaker 1: the spirit of moment was just I mean, that was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And then we were able to start tracking him as
Speaker 1: you know, as he pursued his career and then you know,
Speaker 1: to get to know him, you know, through the years,
Speaker 1: and just his leadership is he's more of a leader
Speaker 1: by example, but he is a cool, calm, collected customer
Speaker 1: and he's really kind of like a lion, you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of like, you know, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff rumbling on inside, and you just he just kind
Speaker 1: of takes care of his business. What do you think
Speaker 1: some of the areas that he's showing the most growth
Speaker 1: in his believing in himself and his teammates. I think,
Speaker 1: like some of the throws that he's been able to
Speaker 1: make with I can say with his anticipation and accuracy.
Speaker 1: I think the guys you know when they I feel
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be open, they know he can get
Speaker 1: him the ball. Where have you seen him really grow
Speaker 1: in terms of on the football field over his two
Speaker 1: years here? Well, I think learning the command of the offense.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously coming from college where the offenses are
Speaker 1: not as complex as they are in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: think him learning progressing and like reads and you know
Speaker 1: what guys are going to be in a specific area,
Speaker 1: and knowing who he can go to. I think he's
Speaker 1: learning those things. One of the guys that he went
Speaker 1: to a lot last year was rookie receiver Jaland Waddle,
Speaker 1: also Alabama former teammate. There. When you got a chance
Speaker 1: to go through this process with Jalan Waddle, what what
Speaker 1: made him stand out among all the other receivers in
Speaker 1: that class? Oh, it's energy, I mean his I remember
Speaker 1: Chris Grey and I both were this Pro day and
Speaker 1: and I was able to meet him and he was
Speaker 1: just he was just a boll of fire, just energy
Speaker 1: and to see the explosiveness that he had on the
Speaker 1: field that he carried that personality to match and just
Speaker 1: you know, you just like, this guy is going to
Speaker 1: be something. The personality plays it's it's it's uncanny that way.
Speaker 1: So you first noticed the energy with him and in
Speaker 1: the speed on the football football field, I guess that's
Speaker 1: kind of personality character trade too. But there's something else
Speaker 1: that you guys kind of uncovered about him because we
Speaker 1: know the high energy and the fun loving kid, but
Speaker 1: what about from a work standpoint or just something about
Speaker 1: him that stood out general toughness. I I don't know
Speaker 1: if people remember, you know, he got hurt his senior
Speaker 1: year and in this and he worked to come back
Speaker 1: to play in the championship game and he was limping,
Speaker 1: but that's how much a competitor that he was, and
Speaker 1: he showed the toughness he wanted to be out there
Speaker 1: with his teammates and you know, for you know, he's
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy in the world, but you know,
Speaker 1: for him to be out there mixing it up with
Speaker 1: those guys after you know, having that kind of injury
Speaker 1: just showed the kind of competitor he is. So when
Speaker 1: you were discussing the factors that weighed into whether or
Speaker 1: not to go to Waddle or somebody else in that draft,
Speaker 1: what ultimately was the ultimate deciding factor for you guys
Speaker 1: to make that selection their number six. Well, I think
Speaker 1: this his explosiveness. You want as many playmakers as you
Speaker 1: can get on the field. And I think when you
Speaker 1: can put the ball in the guy's hand like that,
Speaker 1: that it's really good hands that you know it's going
Speaker 1: to catch the ball. A and B can make things
Speaker 1: happen once he catches it. You know, those are special
Speaker 1: qualities in the receiver, and I think we we all
Speaker 1: saw it. We were like hey, and then having a
Speaker 1: relationship with Too, you know that really helped because you
Speaker 1: know the samilararity with those guys, it's really special. Let's
Speaker 1: let's stay Alabama and go on to ra Kwon Davis here,
Speaker 1: another player in the same draft class. There was too
Speaker 1: a tongue of by lower back in. I think there's
Speaker 1: a probably obvious answer going to be different, But what
Speaker 1: about Ray Kwan stands out most when you guys met
Speaker 1: him in the draft process from a physical statue, well,
Speaker 1: from a physical statue. He's huge, and you think this
Speaker 1: guy supposed to be like in the w W. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is huge, and he is really athletic. For a
Speaker 1: guy that size, you really don't get a chance to
Speaker 1: see that combination of that kind of power and explosiveness
Speaker 1: and athleticism with a guy that big. What do you
Speaker 1: guys learned about him from the way he works? His
Speaker 1: passion is kind of second and uneasy. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: gotta infectious personality. If you ever get a chance to meet,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you can hear him before you see it,
Speaker 1: and he is just a wonderful person. I mean he
Speaker 1: just he loves to play football. And that's the kind
Speaker 1: of guys you want on your team and build around us.
Speaker 1: So when you've got guys that are that athletic and
Speaker 1: that big, that love to play, you know, it's only
Speaker 1: good things can happen. So he's big, he loves the game.
Speaker 1: What about from a technical standpoint on the football field,
Speaker 1: what really stood out to him him? Well, what we
Speaker 1: wanted him to be able to do with anchor inside
Speaker 1: and when that big and that strong, it was just
Speaker 1: naturally but it was a natural progression. And what do
Speaker 1: you think from a character standpoint, made him really a
Speaker 1: good fit for the Miami Dolphins. He's selfless. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy will go in and just eat up blocks
Speaker 1: and not try to, you know, play outside of the
Speaker 1: defensive scheme. And that's really things that in our defense.
Speaker 1: You know, the front line needs to be able to
Speaker 1: hold blocks at the line of scrimmage. And he's selfless.
Speaker 1: He could probably go and make some plays, but he's
Speaker 1: you know, holding blocks for other guys to make plays.
Speaker 1: What about some age you think he needed to grow
Speaker 1: in that he has shown that growth in coming into
Speaker 1: our sys him. He had to learn to play our scheme,
Speaker 1: like with this pad level play because he's so tall.
Speaker 1: You know, he's six six, so you you know, you're
Speaker 1: naturally towering over people. So we had to get him
Speaker 1: to learn to play with a better pad level, you know,
Speaker 1: and kind of anchor things and and and he's and
Speaker 1: he's taking everything. Well, go ahead and get off off
Speaker 1: Alabama here and go to the raging cages. Is a
Speaker 1: big Rob Hunt. You talked a little bit about, you know,
Speaker 1: the journey that ray Kuon made to the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I know, Rob had a pretty unique path to the
Speaker 1: NFL as well. Can you speak about that process for him?
Speaker 1: Rob is a little different, uh, I was. He was
Speaker 1: special to me because I was able to meet him
Speaker 1: when I went to the University of Louisiana to scout him.
Speaker 1: I just kind of fell in love with the person,
Speaker 1: you know, and the evening a guy this big and
Speaker 1: that athletic, you know, and you know, we were He
Speaker 1: was scheduled to play at the Senior Bowls and I
Speaker 1: think he was injured and we were kind of glad
Speaker 1: he didn't because nobody else got a chance to see him,
Speaker 1: and like it was like our secret. Now everybody sees it.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious because this is, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: off off the radar here. But when I watched him
Speaker 1: at Louisiana, I laughed a lot watching him because he
Speaker 1: was doing things that just did not look like he
Speaker 1: belonged on that field. Like did you kind of get
Speaker 1: a bit of a chuckle watching his college taple? Yes,
Speaker 1: because he was so dominant. He was so dominant, and
Speaker 1: he was that athletic, and people got a chance to
Speaker 1: see a glimpse of athleticism on the the touchdown that
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. But I mean that showed his athleticson's
Speaker 1: power and he's just a great person and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we can be able with guys like this. There
Speaker 1: were some areas that you believe that he needed to
Speaker 1: grow and kind of how his he progressed in those areas.
Speaker 1: I think just learning to play offensive line in the NFL,
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's you know, they're not as technical,
Speaker 1: you know sometimes in college and having to learn the
Speaker 1: techniques in the in the in the verbiage of the
Speaker 1: plays and steal work with your footwork and your techniques
Speaker 1: and stuff. It was it was kind of it was
Speaker 1: a you know, it was a growing process for Marvin All,
Speaker 1: assistant gim for the Miami Dolphins. Marvin, appreciate your time today. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me appreciate it and joining me
Speaker 1: now on the Draft Time podcast. Is longtime friend of
Speaker 1: the pod, a friend in general, the creator of the
Speaker 1: Film Room on YouTube, and one half of the Bootleg podcast.
Speaker 1: He is Brett Coleman and Brett your your co hosts,
Speaker 1: come on, come on the podcast later this week. I
Speaker 1: don't want to spark like any kind of competition among
Speaker 1: you guys, but I have to imagine you're gonna want
Speaker 1: to bring it and compete with e J a little bit. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I I think I did a bad job because I
Speaker 1: think I chose the one position group that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: don't need, well well need or not. I mean best
Speaker 1: player available, right, That's that's the that's the theme for
Speaker 1: every draft. Well, luckily the rosters in a spot where
Speaker 1: they can afford to do that. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: like a team is ever gonna complain with having seven
Speaker 1: good dbs instead of six, so you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a locked and loaded roster. Just I I fully
Speaker 1: anticipate that if they're going to do any strategy in
Speaker 1: the draft, it's just who's the best player, Let's figure
Speaker 1: it out from there. That's kind of my thought too,
Speaker 1: especially when you don't pick until one oh two, and
Speaker 1: it's crazy this year, Brett, are our four draft picks
Speaker 1: we have are all non organic. There are other teams picks.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's ever happened before where a
Speaker 1: team got out of the entire business of their own
Speaker 1: draft picks and relied solely on the draft picks of
Speaker 1: someone else through trades. It just kind of speaks to
Speaker 1: the modern day game of there's gonna be lots of trades, right,
Speaker 1: That's how the NFL operates nowadays. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting when you look at just kind of looking
Speaker 1: at a macro perspective, you look at how a lot
Speaker 1: of teams have had success over the last decade. There's
Speaker 1: two ways of doing it. Either you get a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback that's really good and cheap, and you go out
Speaker 1: and acquire a whole lot of talent around them, which
Speaker 1: is literally what Miami just did. You know, they basically
Speaker 1: just handed over the credit card and said, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go get a bunch of stars surround to uh, let's
Speaker 1: make a run at this thing. Or you build the
Speaker 1: roster first and then you go get a veteran quarterback
Speaker 1: that just wants to win and comes at probably less
Speaker 1: money than they should, like what happened with Tampa and
Speaker 1: the Rams the last two years. And those are kind
Speaker 1: of the two ways of building this thing. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny you mentioned that because you look at the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. The Bengals pretty much did one
Speaker 1: of those things and the Rams did the other thing
Speaker 1: with the veteran you know, the build the roster dropped
Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback in the Bengals pretty much bought a
Speaker 1: defense via free agency and built around their young quarterback
Speaker 1: there with the offensive young weapons as well. So I
Speaker 1: love That's like part of the thing about football I
Speaker 1: love the most is the different ways to kind of
Speaker 1: skin a cat, as it were, and how different teams
Speaker 1: find ways to get there ultimately. But Brett, we have
Speaker 1: you here to talk about defensive backs today, and you
Speaker 1: mentioned picking a position that maybe isn't so much of
Speaker 1: a need, and with that in mind, I want to
Speaker 1: look at what we have in house because you have
Speaker 1: Xavian Howard here, very happy and thrilled to get the extension.
Speaker 1: Javon Holland drafted a year ago one of the best
Speaker 1: safeties in the league. Last year, Nick Needham signed his
Speaker 1: second round tender. He's really blossom as a nice slot cornerback.
Speaker 1: Byron Jones stays balling, Brandon Jones a blitzing missile. Sheen
Speaker 1: Eric Ross had a great Dolphins career so far. I
Speaker 1: just want to get your thoughts on the position as
Speaker 1: a whole and what ultimately makes it so tough. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the Dolphins secondary to me is like the perfect
Speaker 1: embodiment of how a defense should be reacting to how
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps are built. Because these days, when you
Speaker 1: look at like the best wide receiver cords around the league,
Speaker 1: you know they build a basketball team. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got a small, quick guy, You've got a big post
Speaker 1: up guy. You know, if you're lucky, you have one
Speaker 1: of these like outfit receivers that can do anything. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got the speed merchant that can open things up
Speaker 1: deep and punish certain coverages where you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: get man across the board and there's gonna be no
Speaker 1: post help, go punish that with the speed guy. UM
Speaker 1: And I think the Dolphins secondary is a natural reaction
Speaker 1: to that because they have a bunch of matchup weapons too.
Speaker 1: You know X is the alpha, he can you can
Speaker 1: put him wherever you want. Byron is a really good
Speaker 1: boundary corner, super physical UM need Hum and Noah I
Speaker 1: feel you can both operate in the slot. Need him
Speaker 1: obviously is like the main guy there, but if he
Speaker 1: goes down, you've got Noah that can come in immediately.
Speaker 1: And he's a really physical slot player that plays to
Speaker 1: run really well too. And then you've got you know,
Speaker 1: matchup chess pieces. Uh In the safety corps as well,
Speaker 1: Eric Row is the tight end eracer. Javon Holland can
Speaker 1: be a free safety or a nickel or if you
Speaker 1: want to blitz the Ravens thirty five times in one game,
Speaker 1: you can bring him off the edge and set the
Speaker 1: NFL record for most blitzes in one game by a safety.
Speaker 1: So I think the Dolphins secondary is the natural reaction
Speaker 1: to how wide receiver corps are built. And I still
Speaker 1: think that even though they're set, we could still see
Speaker 1: a Day three pick somewhere invested in there just to
Speaker 1: keep that going, because it's not like all of these
Speaker 1: a f C wide receiver corps are going away either,
Speaker 1: Like they still have to continuously add to it so
Speaker 1: that you can deal with Buffalo, so that you can
Speaker 1: deal with the entire a f C West, so that
Speaker 1: you can deal with the guys over in Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 1: you know, well, I don't want to say Baltimore yet,
Speaker 1: but I do think that they've got potential there too.
Speaker 1: So it's like you got to compete with all these
Speaker 1: wide receiver cords, you might as well just keep drafting
Speaker 1: dbs so that you're never behind I'm gonna clip off
Speaker 1: that that comment you had about the reaction to the
Speaker 1: how receiver corps are built, because that's that's pretty damn good, right.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. And you talk about the
Speaker 1: draft and potential Day three pick, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: we have you on here talk about the draft today.
Speaker 1: But again, the draft picks don't come until one oh
Speaker 1: two for the Dolphins to kick things off this year.
Speaker 1: And we're happy with, very happy with Tyreek Hills. So
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining about it one bit. But it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, it's it's you've gotta get
Speaker 1: better some way. That's what the Dolphins did and they
Speaker 1: certainly got a lot better with that trade. And before
Speaker 1: we get into the draft picks here, and you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know no Ignogamy real quick, Brett, are you just
Speaker 1: saying Noah because the last name is is impossible to pronounce.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's impossible to pronounce, but
Speaker 1: I do know that I don't nail it every single time.
Speaker 1: So even since he was at Auburn, I just knew
Speaker 1: him as Noah and everybody knew who I was talking about.
Speaker 1: Big bow works too. The way I learned it was
Speaker 1: Draft Knight. I my one of the guys in PR
Speaker 1: sent me like the breakdown, like the big Ben noginy,
Speaker 1: and like I just had to say it over and
Speaker 1: over and over again cause I was talking to him
Speaker 1: in like fifteen minutes on the podcast, so I just
Speaker 1: like repeated it like a thousand times, like the show Severance,
Speaker 1: like the apologies, just cranking it out over and over again.
Speaker 1: So I finally got down. But you talk about the
Speaker 1: luxury of having, you know, if if something happens to
Speaker 1: to Buyron or X or two Nick or whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be, to have that guy that's a first
Speaker 1: round talent, a super athlete kind of waiting in the
Speaker 1: wings just to kind of get his opportunity, that's certainly
Speaker 1: nice luxury to have. And so hopefully that's what what
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have, not just in the secondary, but across
Speaker 1: the entire roster. So as we pivot over here to
Speaker 1: the draft conversation, this is a question I've been asking
Speaker 1: all my interviews so far, and I really enjoyed the
Speaker 1: unique nous of each answer. I'm curious, Brett, because I
Speaker 1: think everybody does it differently. How do you watch film,
Speaker 1: like when you go to your computer to dial up
Speaker 1: some mall twenty two? What are you eating? What are
Speaker 1: you listen to? What's what's h Is there a cat
Speaker 1: in your lap? Like, what's going on when you're watching film? Well,
Speaker 1: there's never not a cat in my lap because the
Speaker 1: laptop turns on a keyboard as a cat's best friend,
Speaker 1: So there's always a cat in my lap. Um. In
Speaker 1: terms of what I look for when I watch film,
Speaker 1: I tend to have to watch a play over and
Speaker 1: over and over again because I want to get context.
Speaker 1: It's not just about you know, looking at movement skills,
Speaker 1: which is a big thing, but I want to look
Speaker 1: at where their eyes are, and I want to understand, okay,
Speaker 1: why are there eyes there? I want to understand what
Speaker 1: coverage they're in so that I know what his his
Speaker 1: assignment in that coverage is. Because even if there's something
Speaker 1: impressive movements wise, if if he's doing the wrong thing
Speaker 1: for his assignment, and you know, we just some people
Speaker 1: just write it down. It's like, oh, there was a
Speaker 1: bust and we don't know whose fault it was. Well,
Speaker 1: if you can look at the coverage and understand the coverage,
Speaker 1: maybe it was that player's fault. You know, maybe be
Speaker 1: they did bust and then if there's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of bus on tape, even if they're not punished for it,
Speaker 1: you want to understand, Okay, why why was there so
Speaker 1: many bus? Was it a communication problem? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: was it somebody not giving him a check? Like? What
Speaker 1: was the issue? So I want to get context for
Speaker 1: both the good and the bad, you know, flip it
Speaker 1: the other way around. I want to understand, Okay, if
Speaker 1: he did something out of structure of the defense, something
Speaker 1: that he's not necessarily supposed to do, but he still
Speaker 1: made that play happen anyway, I want to give that
Speaker 1: like an extra little a little plus, because that means like,
Speaker 1: not only can he just do his assignment, but he
Speaker 1: can kind of rise above the structure of the defense
Speaker 1: and make his coaches right, which is what we saw
Speaker 1: on Holland when he was coming out of school. Mind blowing.
Speaker 1: It was like coaches are gonna love him because he
Speaker 1: gives them leeway. Um. I want to understand, Okay, what
Speaker 1: what formation personnels the offense and what are they calling,
Speaker 1: what are they trying to the defense, and how's the
Speaker 1: defense react to it. So the more context I can
Speaker 1: get by watching a play thirty times. If I can
Speaker 1: understand what all twenty two players want to do, are
Speaker 1: trying to do, and whether or not they succeed in
Speaker 1: doing those things, it helps me to understand the one
Speaker 1: player I'm actually supposed to be watching and how he
Speaker 1: fits together on the field with everybody else. That makes
Speaker 1: me feel better because I spend so much time doing
Speaker 1: the exact same thing where it's like one player. I'm like, jeez,
Speaker 1: I just spent twenty minutes on one play, Like I
Speaker 1: got a whole game to watch here. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And you know to that point, you mentioned Javon Holland.
Speaker 1: There was a clip that you posted last year, and
Speaker 1: I think it was a pact full of championship games
Speaker 1: from like twenty nineteen because he had the opt out
Speaker 1: year where he like came off of his coverage and
Speaker 1: peeled to the backside and jumped and over out. It
Speaker 1: was just the backside bender after coming off of his
Speaker 1: own was like, you're not supposed to be able to
Speaker 1: do exactly, Yes, you can do. That's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1: I loved that clip. I use it so many times,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate you putting that out there. For us,
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and get into this year's draft class.
Speaker 1: And you know, Brett I boosted this question from the
Speaker 1: Bootleg Football podcast the other Guys. It's a segment you
Speaker 1: guys do where you talk about if you wanted player
Speaker 1: X early in the draft, but you missed out, you
Speaker 1: can come back and maybe rounds three or four and
Speaker 1: and scoop up this guy. So for fans that you know,
Speaker 1: when we had that twenty nine picked or maybe hoping
Speaker 1: for a possible Derek's not Derek Stingley that you know,
Speaker 1: a cornerback in that possession or a safety in that possession.
Speaker 1: You know, the Hamilton's, the Stanley's, the Gardeners are gonna
Speaker 1: all be gone. But if there's a player that you
Speaker 1: maybe wanted it twenty nine that was possibly gonna be
Speaker 1: there in the defensive backfield that you didn't get, who's
Speaker 1: a guy in like day two, day three that you
Speaker 1: also like in a similar skill set in terms of
Speaker 1: Day three. And I need to preface this because it's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a little bit of a
Speaker 1: hot take. I'm not necessarily as high on Kyle Hamilton's
Speaker 1: as a lot of people are. I still think he's
Speaker 1: a good football player. I do not think he is
Speaker 1: in the realm of Derwin James when he was coming
Speaker 1: out of school, Like people have said, I actually had
Speaker 1: a higher grade on Javan Holland when he was coming
Speaker 1: out than I have on Kyle Hamilton's, which Javan Holland
Speaker 1: is amazing. So that ended up working out my favor.
Speaker 1: But I'm I think there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's does well. But when I was texting with
Speaker 1: some people in the league, I basically said, he's going
Speaker 1: to play the same role that Eric Road does, which
Speaker 1: is all right, go cover tight ends. You know, if
Speaker 1: if they start using tight ends, this big slot, you
Speaker 1: can put this big dB on them in the slot
Speaker 1: that moves well, and you know has the range and
Speaker 1: and and length to compete with those tight ends, and
Speaker 1: Road does that phenomenally well. And he can do like
Speaker 1: a couple other things that I think. You know, it's
Speaker 1: six four two twenty in the frame that that that
Speaker 1: help it with that kind of role. You know, if
Speaker 1: you want him to play like hook the curl starting
Speaker 1: out in too high, come down and just kind of
Speaker 1: get into a passing line with his wid Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can do that, But I'm not necessarily a huge Kyle
Speaker 1: Hamilton's guy. You're not gonna get Kyle Hamilton's with the
Speaker 1: current offense pick. But if you if you want somebody
Speaker 1: else that brings special teams value that has virtually the
Speaker 1: same frame and almost the same testing numbers and plays
Speaker 1: almost the same role as Kyle Hamilton's, you're gonna want
Speaker 1: Sterling Weatherford, who you're going to get way down the
Speaker 1: board also twenty you know four six flat in the forty,
Speaker 1: really good jumps, huge size, matchup weapon, that kind of guy,
Speaker 1: So that if Eric Row goes down, you have this
Speaker 1: other guy who's a special teams contributor that can come
Speaker 1: right in and play that same matchup role that Eric
Speaker 1: Row does. That I don't think they have anybody else
Speaker 1: on the roster that can do right now, at least
Speaker 1: not as well as Eric does it. So again we're
Speaker 1: talking about using Day three picks to make sure that
Speaker 1: you guys are stable and can get through attrition that
Speaker 1: every NFL team has to during the season. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of the times, the best teams in the income
Speaker 1: down to whose healthy history, who has the best depth
Speaker 1: that particular player, Sterling Weatherford keep an eye on him
Speaker 1: because he is perfect depth for what you guys already have.
Speaker 1: And God willing Eric doesn't go down, but if he does,
Speaker 1: you can slide him in and your defense can do
Speaker 1: the same things that it already wants to do. That's
Speaker 1: the exact detail we want you on the podcast for here, Brett,
Speaker 1: great stuff there. Let's go ahead and take our last
Speaker 1: break on this edition of the Drivetime Podcast with Travis
Speaker 1: Wingfield joined by Brett Coleman, brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and put a bow on this edition
Speaker 1: of the Drivetime Podcast. All right, back here for our
Speaker 1: final segment on this edition of the Drivetime Podcast, brought
Speaker 1: to you by Auto Nation and Brett. You talked about
Speaker 1: Stilling Weatherford at the end of that last segment, and
Speaker 1: I'm curious if he fits this mold or other guys
Speaker 1: that also fit this mold that you've looked at on tape.
Speaker 1: I know you're watching gunners out there and guys covering
Speaker 1: kicks and all that stuff too. So among this crop
Speaker 1: of defensive backs, a position that breeds a lot of
Speaker 1: special teams production typically, who do you like the best
Speaker 1: in the third phase of the game. This in this
Speaker 1: year's draft class. Oh, that's a really good one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go o Zion McCollum State specifically because I think
Speaker 1: even if he's not getting on the field early as
Speaker 1: a starter as a gunner, when you look at it,
Speaker 1: I mean six pounds four three and the forty like
Speaker 1: forty invert, he is extraordinarily athletic. If you if you
Speaker 1: look at a relative athletics core from Kenley Platt, he
Speaker 1: is a ten out of ten RS, meaning he is
Speaker 1: literally a one of one athlete at corner. He might
Speaker 1: go day too just for his potential alone, but I
Speaker 1: think he is a natural backup to these big, physical
Speaker 1: boundary corners that you guys already have, while in addition
Speaker 1: being a handful for typically smaller guys on special teams
Speaker 1: that are they're gonna have to deal with him because
Speaker 1: they're not big enough and they're not fast enough to
Speaker 1: handle him kind of screaming boundary and going to get
Speaker 1: the returner. So I think Zion McCollum, every single specialty
Speaker 1: coordinator in the league just want somebody with that toolbox
Speaker 1: to work with. And then eventually, I'm sure the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators is gonna want him on the field too, because
Speaker 1: how could you not want that kind of athlete on
Speaker 1: the field. I know they have a million corners already,
Speaker 1: but who cares. Let's get a fifth in there, just
Speaker 1: because well, it's never never a bad thing to have,
Speaker 1: you know, guys on the bench that can come in
Speaker 1: and contribute like that. And that's the same. That's that's
Speaker 1: how the NFL works, right. You get teams that go
Speaker 1: down players all the time, like the Titans last year.
Speaker 1: They had so many guys on I R and makes
Speaker 1: to wind up as the one seed in the a
Speaker 1: f C because of their depth and coaching and all
Speaker 1: that fun stuff. So great stuff, Brett. One more question
Speaker 1: for you here, and this is kind of the payoff
Speaker 1: because you know, I know that most draft nicks like
Speaker 1: to talk about the top one hundred. We don't really
Speaker 1: have that in this that that luxury this time around.
Speaker 1: You've done the podcast the last couple of years and
Speaker 1: we talked about a billion guys, but now it's down
Speaker 1: to just one. So this is a question I asked
Speaker 1: Joe and e J and all the guys that done
Speaker 1: the podcast so far, regardless of team, if you're sitting
Speaker 1: around pick one hundred, who's a guy that if he
Speaker 1: begins to slide a little bit, or just a guy
Speaker 1: that's there at pick like fifties sixty seventy in that range.
Speaker 1: Who's the guy in the defensive backfield that you're pounding
Speaker 1: the table four to go up and future and mortgage
Speaker 1: some future draft capital, packaging some picks to go up
Speaker 1: and get the defensive back Who is that guy you want?
Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think he will slide this far,
Speaker 1: but let's just say, in our wildest dreams, it happens, happens.
Speaker 1: I would want Jalen Petray from Baylor in this system
Speaker 1: because the only thing better than having Javon Holland is
Speaker 1: having to Javon Holland's and I think he would basically
Speaker 1: be another Javon Holland. He's got phenomenal feat phenomenal hips,
Speaker 1: plays the nickel position really well. But it's also a
Speaker 1: really good safety. In that Dave Randas system, you have
Speaker 1: to do everything is a safe. You've got to come
Speaker 1: down um and fit the run. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: play in the slide, you gotta play in the deep post.
Speaker 1: He does everything showed up the Senior Bowl. You know
Speaker 1: it's not the biggest guy. He's like five ten. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's still very competitive against bigger receivers and
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, even when a catch who
Speaker 1: was maybe he was able to kind of fight through
Speaker 1: and break it up late, which is what you want.
Speaker 1: You don't want any quit in a dB because the
Speaker 1: catches and the catch until it's on the ground and
Speaker 1: the whistles blown. So he plays with the whistle, tough, aggressive,
Speaker 1: great leader. UM. I have a friend in the personal
Speaker 1: personal department down in Baylor who also spent time at
Speaker 1: l s U when Jamal Adams was there, and he
Speaker 1: says that Jillian Petre is the best leader and the
Speaker 1: most passionate ball player that he's ever been around, and
Speaker 1: that included Jamal Adams. So he is a phenomenal ad
Speaker 1: for any team. But I think, again hoping praying here,
Speaker 1: you pair up Petre which Evan Island. That's the best
Speaker 1: safety do in the league right now. That's pretty high praise.
Speaker 1: I mean that's I saw him with the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and he was certainly playing at a high level in
Speaker 1: that game as well, which I mean that's the best,
Speaker 1: the best of the best in the country. There, So
Speaker 1: great stuff at Brett Coleman two else two ends the
Speaker 1: Film Room on you to the Bootleg Football Podcast. Brett,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure as always, my friend. You're coming down
Speaker 1: here for a game this year, right, Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: waiting for the schedule release. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to figure out exactly, uh when and where I want
Speaker 1: to go see. I want to avoid hurricane season if
Speaker 1: I can. But we'll see. Yeah, I was gonna recommend
Speaker 1: any time around Thanksgiving or after it's usually the best
Speaker 1: because before that pretty toasting. Yeah, a little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit, all right, man, thanks a lot, Brett, thank you,
Speaker 1: and there he goes. Brett Coleman, longtime friend of the podcast.
Speaker 1: Check out his stuff on the YouTube channel, the Film
Speaker 1: Room and also the Bootleg Football Podcast. We'll come back
Speaker 1: on the other side of this and put a bow
Speaker 1: on this edition of the Drivetime Podcast, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Auto Nation. Al Right back here on the Drivetime
Speaker 1: Podcast a Monday, great content for you here with both
Speaker 1: Brett Coleman and Marvin Allen providing plenty of insight into
Speaker 1: the current Dolphins roster as well as this upcoming draft
Speaker 1: class with the defensive backs. So that's that's a good
Speaker 1: spot to go ahead and put a bow on this,
Speaker 1: but I want to first go ahead and make a mention. Man,
Speaker 1: what a great time a year it is right now
Speaker 1: for not just sports, but also like television. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this another day. We had the Masters, we
Speaker 1: have the NBA Playoffs coming up, the ends Double A
Speaker 1: tournaments just wrapped up. Baseball is back going again. And
Speaker 1: for me as a Mariners fan, who this Mariners team
Speaker 1: has the best young talent they've had since like the nineties,
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty fired up about that kind of the
Speaker 1: love of the game coming back a little bit there.
Speaker 1: I just feel really fortunate this time of the year,
Speaker 1: even without Dolphins football in our lives, because there's so
Speaker 1: much entertainment out there for us to behold. Not to
Speaker 1: mention living in South Florida and all the amenities that
Speaker 1: has to offer, like the luau with Tuah, which by
Speaker 1: the way, I want to touch on that here just
Speaker 1: real quick, because the first thing I want to mention
Speaker 1: about the luau with ta was at the end of
Speaker 1: the night, people lined up and took pictures with him,
Speaker 1: and he just kind of went through, you know, the
Speaker 1: process of meeting everybody that came to his event, which
Speaker 1: is expected. I think you know you, you you invite people out,
Speaker 1: you do this whole great charity thing for Big Brothers
Speaker 1: Big Sisters of South Florida. But the genuine personality and
Speaker 1: the just politeness with which he met people and spoke
Speaker 1: to people. You saw it from a mile away. We've
Speaker 1: heard about it for years and years and years now.
Speaker 1: Just a special person man like that guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you wouldn't be rooting for that quarterback because
Speaker 1: he's such a special guy and what a great human
Speaker 1: being he is. Raised a whole bunch of money for
Speaker 1: Big Brothers and Big Sisters of South Florida. So go
Speaker 1: check out the video. I think Michael Kuno from CBS
Speaker 1: four down here in South Florida posted a clip of
Speaker 1: the what was on the news on Sunday night. He
Speaker 1: was the master of ceremonies at the event as well,
Speaker 1: So checked out that out if you have not seen it.
Speaker 1: That was a great part of me and Mrs Wingfield's weekend.
Speaker 1: And then again the sports and the television I keep
Speaker 1: looking about back at this we had the return of
Speaker 1: South Park serialized episodes this year that was gone for
Speaker 1: a couple of years and for the die hard, die
Speaker 1: hard South Park fans. That's a big, big deal, Like
Speaker 1: you don't that was very very missed for a couple
Speaker 1: of years there during the pandemic severance. The show on
Speaker 1: Apple TV is legitimately one of the best season ones
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire life. That just wrapped
Speaker 1: this past weekend. Better Call Saul returns next week. The
Speaker 1: Ozark finale is coming up this month. Did you know
Speaker 1: the show Barry on HBO is back as well. We
Speaker 1: have the Jordan Peel movie this summer. I forget what
Speaker 1: it's called, but it looks like his best movie to
Speaker 1: date for my money, I mean, Jordan Peel and Aliens
Speaker 1: signed me up. So I just feel very blessed by
Speaker 1: the level of entertainment and things that we have to
Speaker 1: look forward to here as pop culture fans, Dolphins fans,
Speaker 1: sports fans, everything in between. That's gonna be my time
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