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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the drive when

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Speaker 1: you're saying to manage that time of year where everybody

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Speaker 1: starts to put out their top lists of So Pete

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Speaker 1: Prisco from CBS Sports, we talked about his top one

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Speaker 1: list last year. Yeah, we did, and this was an

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Speaker 1: annual thing for him. Now he beats everybody else out

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Speaker 1: with his top one. The NFL one didn't come out yet,

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Speaker 1: and this is it's not a bunch of votes, this

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Speaker 1: is just him right right right, So he put his

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Speaker 1: out and the one thing that was running one preface thing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do the math before we did this, but

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Speaker 1: I should have. I think it's like five percent of

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Speaker 1: NFL players make the top one hundred. Well you figure

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Speaker 1: fifty three players times thirty two, I mean it's you

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Speaker 1: talked to almost sixteen players over sixteen hundred players right

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Speaker 1: percent ish something like that. So I mean if seven

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Speaker 1: percent of the radio shows or podcasts or lawyers or

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Speaker 1: whatever made this list, I mean just think about in

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Speaker 1: any walk of life, we would be number one. Well,

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Speaker 1: we could be on it. I mean it's you know,

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Speaker 1: when your guy doesn't make it, it's it's pretty tough

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Speaker 1: list to make. So number one, he's got a little

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Speaker 1: different listen. I'll bet that the NFL or ESPN lists,

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Speaker 1: I gotta come out where are gonna show? But he's

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Speaker 1: got lugarious sneed at number one hundred. He's not a

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Speaker 1: bad player. I don't know if he's there, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I would put him in my Hunter right

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Speaker 1: he's the top seven percent or whatever. Same thing with

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Speaker 1: his number ninety nine, which is Darius Williams. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's good to recognize the defensive had really one

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Speaker 1: good year. They've had one good year and are presumably ascending.

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Speaker 1: But whenever I do list like that, I tend to

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Speaker 1: give the guy that's done in three or four years

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Speaker 1: Number Tyler Lockett, who's probably going the other way. Probably

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Speaker 1: it kind of finished the season kind of slow, but

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Speaker 1: he's dangerous. Uh. Number ninety seven, another guy going the

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Speaker 1: wrong way. Adam Feeling. I suppose, solid player though he's

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Speaker 1: the top one player. Number ninety six, whyatt teller, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was pretty high on my interior offensive line. List.

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Speaker 1: I think he was fifth or so, number Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Like, I don't know that I

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Speaker 1: can put him at right now based on the fact

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Speaker 1: that he played half a season. They asked us for

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Speaker 1: our our podcast network to hey, go phill out this

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Speaker 1: form your top ten quarterbacks in the league. I didn't

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Speaker 1: put him on. I think he'll be there someday. But

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Speaker 1: if we're talking right now, like I put their car

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Speaker 1: him right now. But I mean I'd much rather have

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Speaker 1: right right right. Here's a good question for you then,

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Speaker 1: because number ninety four is Kyler Murray. He didn't make

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Speaker 1: my top ten either, but he was just missed. So

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Speaker 1: which one would you rather have moving forward? They're both young.

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Speaker 1: I trust Borrow more, but I wouldn't mind building my

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Speaker 1: team with either. I trust Borrow more. Though number ninety

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Speaker 1: three is Kirk Cousins. There might be a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on this list, which I get to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even being critical. They're super important. They're a

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Speaker 1: hard thing to weigh. But he wasn't in my top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks. I mean he's a is he an above

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Speaker 1: average player for his position. No, I think he's the

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Speaker 1: league average player. Like I'm not sure I can put

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Speaker 1: someone in the top one hundred that's not in a

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Speaker 1: well above average player for their position. But he's more

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Speaker 1: valuable than stuff onto it who's better than him? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? So how do you weig? Number

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Speaker 1: I think some people would have him like fifties. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. A lot of people would have

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Speaker 1: him much higher until you start looking at his coverage

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Speaker 1: statue are going, we can't cover anybody. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: have him Blitzer. I think when your game playing for Seattle,

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Speaker 1: mean almost like the like a Bostick, Like you see

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Speaker 1: as felt, but he only does one thing. Kind of well,

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Speaker 1: your safety and coverage is not your strong suit. It's odd,

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Speaker 1: that's a problem. It absolutely is. H One is Elton

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Speaker 1: Uh ninety This is a tough one. Derwin James, I

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Speaker 1: last two year. I mean, yeah, in three years he's

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Speaker 1: been the league, He's played what twenty games, maybe it

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Speaker 1: most and probably less, and they're all years ago. Right,

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Speaker 1: He's clearly a special player, and I hope a year

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Speaker 1: from now he's in the top twenty. But he may

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Speaker 1: be ill league year from one more injury, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, that's a tough one nine. This

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Speaker 1: goes back to what we talked about with Teddy Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: d J. Moore, poor guy. We always say that we

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Speaker 1: talked fantasy. I mean he took He took more runs

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Speaker 1: in the park last year than any receiver in the

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Speaker 1: just just out there jogging up and down the field

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Speaker 1: with beatings and getting the ball. Ye. Good player. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad he got recognized. I think a lot would leave

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Speaker 1: him off. Matthew Stafford. I'm a big believer in Stafford.

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Speaker 1: Se Kwon Barkley, Yeah, he's another one. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: Joel Batonio, yep, I mean I had all three of

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Speaker 1: the interior Brown's guys high on my list. Frank Regg

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Speaker 1: Now he was also higher than the Browns guys. Eighty

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Speaker 1: three Matt Ryan h Now, I'd rather Stafford. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is not going to be on this list.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me which quarterback I want right now,

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Speaker 1: I might take Roethlisberger. I might. This could be a

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Speaker 1: disaster season for Ryan. Like he's teetering on that edge

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Speaker 1: where it could be disasters for Bett. I mean he

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Speaker 1: year that Roethlisberger was in this year. They have no

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Speaker 1: gonna have to throw it to keep him. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to be So the only reason Matt Ryan's on

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Speaker 1: this list of eighty three is because they gotta throw

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Speaker 1: all the time. He has great weapons. I don't know

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Speaker 1: there's a great quarterback though anymore. Yeah. If a genie

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Speaker 1: Ryan for Ben this year, just for this year, just

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Speaker 1: for this year, I'd probably do it. But I'd have

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Speaker 1: The state of his career, he doesn't get out of

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Speaker 1: them or any of the old quarterbacks. But we might

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Speaker 1: be talking about Ryan like we did Eli at the end.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's very he didn't have the

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Speaker 1: believer in him, you know, Like I think he'll throw

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Speaker 1: it was a year removed or one year, you know,

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Speaker 1: years of Okay played nine games or he played games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been every year since in the last five years

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Speaker 1: thing that's different with like comparing him to like Durwin

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing. There's thirty of them that you'd

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Speaker 1: he got franchise two years in a row. Somebody, somebody

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Speaker 1: put out the stats, uh yesterday I believe on Twitter

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Speaker 1: measuring the top four safeties, and it was Simmons, It

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Speaker 1: was Manka Fitzpatrick. It was the kid from New Orleans, Williams.

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Speaker 1: his face him? Since no, it wasn't just um, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter making Fitzpatrick blew them all away in terms

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Speaker 1: and the other thing I bet that he blows him

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Speaker 1: How many times? I don't really want to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean Ed Reid had to lead the league in that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But he's not gonna fall off a cliff. Seventy five

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Speaker 1: Danielle Hunter. Really good player until last season. He missed

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Speaker 1: last season with the hernieated disc in his neck. That's

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Speaker 1: be a June one trade. I don't know how you trade,

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Speaker 1: I'm not on board, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: All the great things that Mike Munchak did here might

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Speaker 1: not be as good as turning Garrett Bowls into quit

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Speaker 1: calling holding last year. It was his main problem led

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Speaker 1: league every year and stop holding. They just quit calling it.

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Speaker 1: They just quit calling it. So now he's great, and

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Speaker 1: they gave him a bunch of money and boys a

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Speaker 1: former first round pick. And if they go back to

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Speaker 1: calling holding this year, you wait and see, Garrett Bowls

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Speaker 1: will be among the leader league leaders in holding penalis.

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Speaker 1: I mean like to have him ahead of Armstead's bonkers.

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Speaker 1: you're calling holding. Yeah, holding is illegal again, all right.

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Speaker 1: Seventy three Miles Jack, No, I don't see it. Pizza's

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jrs. I'm sorry, Mills. Jack is not the

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Speaker 1: seventy third best player in the league. He doesn't impact

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Speaker 1: year from now in my opinion. Seventy one is Stefan Gilmore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's somewhat of a down year, but you can't kill

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Speaker 1: dominant the last couple seventies. Ronnie Stanley. Yeah, tough one

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Speaker 1: games though six actually only six um, but yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: Thirteen Tyreek Hill. He was my number one receiver just

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Speaker 1: Steffon Dicks. Great year, I think things or I think

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Speaker 1: Hill was a little more dangerous. Eleven Derrick Henry, I

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Speaker 1: get it, he was. I got a lot of heat

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Speaker 1: for this, but he was like fifth on my running

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Speaker 1: back list. You gotta catch a ball, yeah, today's game,

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Speaker 1: that matters. I mean, I didn't read this, but he

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Speaker 1: had Chubb at seventy or so. I bet he ding

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Speaker 1: him a little for not catching the ball. Chubb and

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Speaker 1: Henry are the same to me, except Chubb's might be

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no even say one like him, and

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Speaker 1: he's more productive and a little more proven, But they're

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Speaker 1: kind of the same. Ten Josh Allen. That's a little

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Speaker 1: rich for me. I'm sorry. I mean I respect him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's phenomenal. Heck of a season last year,

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Speaker 1: he had a heck of a season. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna come back to Earth, but

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Speaker 1: that's pretty rich. Nine Miles Garrett mm hmm. He's in

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Speaker 1: contention for the second best defensive player in the league.

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Speaker 1: Eight Russell Wilson. He's he finished very poorly last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we had this conversation at mid year,

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Speaker 1: he'd be. He was one in one a with Mahomes

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Speaker 1: for me as the best quarterback in the league, but

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Speaker 1: he had six to eight games that he was part

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Speaker 1: of the problem, not the solution. Seven Davante Adams, I

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Speaker 1: get it. I mean he's coming off a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 1: He might be the best receiver in the league. Although

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Speaker 1: he's it's like talent wise, he's the best. Though I

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Speaker 1: if you ask Aaron Rodgers, he gave Aaron Rodgers true

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Speaker 1: sierum and said, would you rather have Stefon Digs or

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Speaker 1: Davante ad Tyreek was my one. It's funny because I

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Speaker 1: said this a year ago, because I Michael Thomas is

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Speaker 1: But I kind of said, none of these guys are

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Speaker 1: Calvin or t O or Andre Johnson that are just

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Speaker 1: crazy freaky, you know physically. Yeah, yeah, a great player.

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Speaker 1: Six t J one cool. I would imagine that's second

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Speaker 1: best defensive player. I can't think anyone else besides Donald

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Speaker 1: conversation for best tight end ever not named Gronk, Like

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Speaker 1: if he's in that all time great conversation, he's had

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Speaker 1: put five years together that are ridiculous. Forest tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: that's too high. But who's who's the throw stones at that?

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Speaker 1: You know? I mean the resume is ridiculous. He has

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. I don't know that he's the

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Speaker 1: second best quarterback in the league or third best. Three

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Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers. Sure, two is Aaron Donald. He could

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Speaker 1: be one, and one is Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Uh so

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Speaker 1: we saw three Steelers on the list, yes, uh just missing.

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Speaker 1: There was only one and it's just missed, that being

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Speaker 1: David de Castro, which I think is fair. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he was great last year most years, would be

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Speaker 1: a top hundred Dish player throughout his career, probably seventy

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Speaker 1: throughout his career. If we're having this conversation a year

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Speaker 1: from now, yeah, I think Bush is the obvious one.

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Speaker 1: Do you think could take the jump? I think nausea

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Speaker 1: Harris could make the list. I think, um, I think

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Speaker 1: it maybe should have been should have been in consideration

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Speaker 1: this year, one more year, like many defensive tackles on there,

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Speaker 1: but he should have at least gotten mentioned. Right, he's

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Speaker 1: in this he's the bottom group of defensive tackles. You're right,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of defensive There was no Fletcher Cox.

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox is another one that's in the you know,

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Speaker 1: Shelby Harris is in that list, and that I'm looking

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Speaker 1: here at defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons, Guys of that nature too.

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Speaker 1: It's on that tier without question, and could be knocking

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Speaker 1: on the door of top. And I think you know,

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Speaker 1: you could see Claypool, Deonte Johnson. I was thinking the receivers. Yeah, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's not what I mean. I mean that conversation already,

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Speaker 1: there's like nine quarterbacks are so on that list that

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Speaker 1: he gets a team to ten or eleven wins. Again,

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Speaker 1: if if the if the Vikings called up the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and said, okay for this season this season only, well

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Speaker 1: if your Kirk Cousins straight up for Ben Roethlisberger, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you do it. Yeah right, I mean I

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Speaker 1: get the declining and I get the worries and all that,

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Speaker 1: but I sort of trust him, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: No what he is, I mean, nobody, nobody's everyone's putting

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Speaker 1: digging the grave already, which I don't quite understand, But no,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance. I think Harris has

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Speaker 1: a chance. Probably no lineman, probably not on the tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I think Deante and Claypool certainly could be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: It's not that far off. No, he's not a couple

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Speaker 1: of years away probably being in there. You know, if

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Speaker 1: if uh this, you know, let's say Harris goes out

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Speaker 1: and rushes for yards and catches you know, forty passes

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Speaker 1: for another of the year. Yeah, you know, right then

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Speaker 1: you could see a Steeler's offensive lineman or two him

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Speaker 1: besides the Castro, though I'm not sure who would make

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Speaker 1: that jump to be a top Hunter. You would hope

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Speaker 1: would be a guy like Green or something. Maybe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's crazy talk, but they're

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Speaker 1: probably two years away. I mean, nobody was talking about

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Speaker 1: the the the offensive lineman for the for the Packers.

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Speaker 1: So the interior guy Jenkins Jenkins, right, or even Jenkins

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Speaker 1: was like a third round pick. Yeah, I think Teller

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Speaker 1: was a fourth for the Browns to kind of like Dotson,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, I guess Hayden could

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Speaker 1: be sort of in the conversation, he's more of the

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Speaker 1: next hundred. I would say, would probably be on his

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Speaker 1: way down, probably not going to jump up. Bush is

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Speaker 1: the one you want to see in there though, absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the plan. Yeah, and right Frankly White's

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Speaker 1: in there, Devin White. Bush is pretty much an equal

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Speaker 1: player to him right now, in my opinion, it's just

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Speaker 1: different circumstances. This past year. He us seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: more in the playoffs and he happens to play beside

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Speaker 1: a great player who was ranked behind him, which makes himush.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance to prove himself for a lot

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Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, but that is going to do

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Speaker 1: it for this segment. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: for Jacob Rict here and site keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.