WEBVTT - 'Tis an All Hosts Mailbag!

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast is a mail bag podcast, but it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>contain spoilers from a variety of different stories and comics

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<v Speaker 2>and movies and television shows likely, so you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want to get spoiled about what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in Star Wars, the High Republic comics, or the

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<v Speaker 2>sixth book of the Harry Potter series and just pass

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But we're gonna be talking about that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so be warned.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello. My name is JASONN.

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<v Speaker 2>Stepsci, and welcome next to Revision the Crooked Podcast, where

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<v Speaker 2>we dive deep down into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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<v Speaker 2>and pop culture. Joining me today, Oh, the gang is

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<v Speaker 2>back together for the holiday mail bag. We have both

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<v Speaker 2>of our hosts, the great Rosie Knight and the fantastically

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<v Speaker 2>talented Cody Ziggler.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>We are great, We're thriving. As I told both of you,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to see Spider Man away Home after we

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<v Speaker 3>we this. Yes, yes, I expect the group chat and

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<v Speaker 3>my Twitter to be exploding with nerdy takes all weekend, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting it here now. I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. I am also doing great. I'm so

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<v Speaker 4>stoked to be here with both of you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so stoked you're about to sea Spider Mans in

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<v Speaker 5>you you are writing Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You have already seen.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know. Like when they said that, hey

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<v Speaker 3>you can that. One of the producers of this show

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, we have screenings this day. As like,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about getting a flight back to la just

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<v Speaker 3>to see it, but I was much more conscious about

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<v Speaker 3>my money spending.

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<v Speaker 4>But good plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really wanted to see it early.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that responsibility. But you know, I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it today. Okay, let's get to the mail. Our

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<v Speaker 2>first question, Lars asks what are her own thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>the High Republic the Star Wars High Republic novels and

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<v Speaker 2>comics so far. I think they're a very interesting direction

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<v Speaker 2>to go into for Star Wars. What upcoming projects are

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<v Speaker 2>we excited for for the Disney Plus shows aside from Kenobi,

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<v Speaker 2>which everyone is pumped for. Rosie, you had some very

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<v Speaker 2>specific thoughts about their Higher Republic comics.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I really love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, I think it's a really cool project and kind

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<v Speaker 5>of it has a massive scope.

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<v Speaker 4>In case you haven't seen it, it's a.

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<v Speaker 5>New era of Star Wars and it goes over comics,

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<v Speaker 5>graphic novels, for kids, adult novels. It's got all kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of incredible creators. Claudia Gray did my favorite book so

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<v Speaker 5>far called Into the Dark. She'd also done this incredible

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<v Speaker 5>Star Wars book called Lost Stars, Kevan Scott, Justina Ireland,

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<v Speaker 5>Daniel Jose Older, Charles Saul Like, it's smalls board of

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<v Speaker 5>great creators. And the really cool thing is, if you like,

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<v Speaker 5>if you grew up reading Star Wars expanded Universe and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of these stories that added to the law that

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<v Speaker 5>you loved in this really new and inventive way. This

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<v Speaker 5>is very much HARKing back to that age, but in

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<v Speaker 5>a canonized way.

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<v Speaker 4>This is official Star Wars stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's got that scope and that new characters, exciting

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<v Speaker 5>new worlds, and I just think it's really good. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>if I was going to recommend one, i'd say Claudia Gray,

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<v Speaker 5>Into the Dark is a really great place to start.

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<v Speaker 5>But Charles Saw also did the High Republic kind of

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<v Speaker 5>kickoff books, So if you don't know where to start,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a good novel to get in on the ground floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlestill crushing it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>He is absolutely killing it. Okay, Emil asks what are

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<v Speaker 2>your top crossover events? My favorite of all time was

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<v Speaker 2>Galactic Storm. He also mentions Nightfall, Acts of Vengeance, the

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<v Speaker 2>Original Inferno shout out to the Original Inferno, and Madeline Pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Reign of Superman also have an honorable mention.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Zig, what are your favorite crossovers?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah Man, that's such a good question. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>was a big fan of World War Hulk because that

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<v Speaker 3>was the first crossover actually got into, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know how crossovers work, so I just thought there were

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<v Speaker 3>a dozen books all about the World War. Also, I

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<v Speaker 3>distinctly remember reading An Unredeemable Ant Man where Eric O'Grady

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<v Speaker 3>had to shrink down to go inside the Hulk to

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<v Speaker 3>try to kill him. But yeah, Insider just destrogged his outside,

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<v Speaker 3>so he just got And like that was my intro

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<v Speaker 3>into like crossover events. Like I'm soldly that, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>was a big fun because you just see Hulk beat

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<v Speaker 3>up every single character in the Marvel universe, like his

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<v Speaker 3>uh there's like a three issue I think one where

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<v Speaker 3>he goes to uh Professor X's academy and like he

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<v Speaker 3>just curb stumps all of those, Yeah, guys, those are

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<v Speaker 3>probably that's probably that In Marvel zombies are like my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite crossover.

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<v Speaker 1>Events, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 5>I like the weird stuff especially so like I have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of like weird old crossovers like Batman Sport

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<v Speaker 5>and Batman Predator, Archie versus Predator I really like when

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<v Speaker 5>you get I mean Batman versus Gore make sense. They

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<v Speaker 5>have a lot of capes. But seriously, if you haven't

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<v Speaker 5>read Archie, guys has Predator. That is like one of

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<v Speaker 5>the funniest, deepest kind of comics. More on like a

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<v Speaker 5>classic superhero Level is definitely like Crisis on Infinite Earth,

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<v Speaker 5>also Infinity Gauntlet. Like I like those big cosmic stories

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<v Speaker 5>where you get to see all these different characters you

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<v Speaker 5>would never expect kind of brawling it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Jason, what about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh. I also love those big, sprawling crossovers. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Marvel Cosmic has had some of the greatest crossovers

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<v Speaker 2>in recent years, so Annihilation, Annihilation Conquest or just like

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<v Speaker 2>Massive in scope, they introduced the modern version of the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians of the Galaxy team. You get to watch a

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<v Speaker 2>group actually speak in words in this but it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>super great, Like Giant space opera across many, many worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible villain, really really fun. In that same vein War

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<v Speaker 2>of Kings was also really good. Maybe he doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>quite the shine, but also another Dan Abnett and Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Lanning kind of like cosmic crossover, this time kind of related.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a lot of Summer's family. So Scott Summer's

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<v Speaker 2>Cyclops is a mutant, his brother Alex also a mutant.

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<v Speaker 1>Their other brother Vulcan, also a mutant.

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<v Speaker 2>They all have these kind of like energy powers, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, Vulcan basically is extremely powerful and he

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<v Speaker 2>just basically goes nuts and people have to try and

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<v Speaker 2>stop him, and the various kings that try to stop him,

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<v Speaker 2>and include black Bolt and the King of the Humans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really really fun, really good. And then I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>More recently, War of the Realms I really enjoyed as

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<v Speaker 2>just like a good old Thor fun. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>really great to watch the various baddies from Asgarden elsewhere

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<v Speaker 2>trying to invade Earth. Good good stuff right there, and

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<v Speaker 2>that whole Thor run up to War of the Realms

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<v Speaker 2>starting with Jason Aaron's it's like it's just it's an

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<v Speaker 2>unrivaled run of greatness.

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<v Speaker 1>So check that out.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's a good I think that's a really good

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<v Speaker 5>place if you want to know what might be happening

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<v Speaker 5>and Thoor love and Thunder, it's like a very good

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<v Speaker 5>and also Russell Dorman is just like the best.

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<v Speaker 6>So whenever you get that rustle lot, you're just like.

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<v Speaker 1>A v D sixty nine seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Asks do you think we'll ever get a solid live

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<v Speaker 2>action anime? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me. Rosie and I are both about the clapaphone

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<v Speaker 3>or soapbox, so please bear with this, please.

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<v Speaker 4>Please, I'm I'm presenting the soapbooks. Do you warm up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah? There are tons of really really solid live

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<v Speaker 3>action adaptations of anime and manga just never gets over here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, like just right out the back. The most

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<v Speaker 3>recent one that I can think of that's easily accessible

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<v Speaker 3>is Late of the Immortal. Yes, I think that's on

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<v Speaker 3>Amazon or who if you have a streaming network, is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on there, like a really really great one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this was a manga. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>actually got an adaptation to animation just yet. But I

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<v Speaker 3>am a hero. If you're a big fan of zombies

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<v Speaker 3>or like a Walking Dead. It's a really nice, interesting

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<v Speaker 3>take on that from the perspective of like just an

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<v Speaker 3>everyday shlub in the middle of Japan, like a big

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<v Speaker 3>dan city in Japan. It's really great, really interesting, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's fun seeing how their gun laws just affect how

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<v Speaker 3>you would survive a zombie invasion. And if you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>for like a fun American ad patient that's a little

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<v Speaker 3>cheesy and also just have some great practical effects. The

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<v Speaker 3>Guiver and the Guyver Dark Heroes from the mid nineties great.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to see Mark Hamill change into a

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<v Speaker 3>giant cockroach, that's the movie to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Who doesn't want to see that?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, Blater the more old Like I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was Takashi Meks like two hundredth movie or something

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<v Speaker 5>as well. I got to interview him about it. It

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<v Speaker 5>was like my dream. But that movie is so great.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so violent, it's so interesting, it's so thoughtful, it's

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<v Speaker 5>so fun. Also, like the Japanese Death Note is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's very like zerozy, but I really like that. I

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<v Speaker 5>think also the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure movie that they did

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<v Speaker 5>the live action one, so I think like all already

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<v Speaker 5>great live action anime adaptations being made. They're just generally

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<v Speaker 5>being made in Japan. I was just going to seek

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<v Speaker 5>them out, and I do think I do believe we

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<v Speaker 5>can get them here too. I just think it's a journey.

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<v Speaker 5>They've been making them in Japan for so long. That's

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<v Speaker 5>where the quality comes from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they have hometime advantage. I will say,

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<v Speaker 3>even like at Leata Battle Angel wasn't terrible like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that movie. Actually yeah, I kind of like that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a fun like it's there. You think

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<v Speaker 3>you just, like RADI said, you have to look a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit harder than like just Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>John asks is JK Rowling's exclusion from the twentieth anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>get together that's on HBO Max, the original cast all

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<v Speaker 2>getting together in the kind of like Friends reunion. Vein

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<v Speaker 2>is her exclusion appropriate giving her critical role as author

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<v Speaker 2>of the HP universe. It's I'll let you guys go first,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes.

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<v Speaker 3>By a video, yeah, yes, next question yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It is and she's still getting paid, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>she's Fine's I mean, write some nasty tweets and then

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully people can enjoy it without, you know, they didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to have to edit out her say and all

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<v Speaker 5>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>She would inevitably have.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, Yeah, she'll She'll be fine. Your weirdest friends from

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<v Speaker 3>high school and college will still defend them and like

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<v Speaker 3>you can just ignore them on your Facebook or timeline,

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<v Speaker 3>They'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean JK recently, like with like days ago, quintumpled

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<v Speaker 2>or quint you know what, Sex tuppled down on her

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<v Speaker 2>transphobic stance with a pretty inflammatory tweet that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to repeat here, but it's in vain with her

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff. I'll just say that, like the community that

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<v Speaker 2>grew up around the stories that took from those stories,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of message of inclusion, of acceptance, of people

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<v Speaker 2>finding who they are and finding the magic within themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and finding community. That way, UH should move on as

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<v Speaker 2>a community without the kind of divisiveness Unfortunately that JK

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<v Speaker 2>is injecting into the conversation. Just like, you know, sit

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<v Speaker 2>in your Scottish castle and enjoy your money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you wrote the stories, and as Rosie noted, you're

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<v Speaker 2>still getting significantly paid and so just enjoy your billions

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<v Speaker 2>and stop tweeting about I about trans people in a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really terrible way. Next, Ash asks, the Disney plus Hawkeye

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<v Speaker 2>series lifts so wonderfully and heavily from the fraction in

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<v Speaker 2>Aya run. But as I understand it, Aya isn't credited

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<v Speaker 2>much less paid for Disney using all of this work.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 2>And can you guys talk about how Disney is literally

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<v Speaker 2>just having their credits people and production designers create quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote fan art essentially of all as work.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie, you have as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So if anyone's read any of my work, and if

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<v Speaker 5>you haven't, there's there's a ton there if you'd like to.

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<v Speaker 5>But I write quite a lot about creative rights and

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<v Speaker 5>creative credits and Disney and also Marvel before Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a long established established the beginning of the industry.

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<v Speaker 5>Like when comics began, there was not such a thing

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<v Speaker 5>as a work for higher contract.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very blurred.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why you can have Jack Kirby's family or the

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<v Speaker 5>Segal and Schuster estates arguing for the ownership of these characters.

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<v Speaker 5>But from around the seventies, everyone in comics, in Big

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<v Speaker 5>Two Comics, Marvel and DC has been working under what

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<v Speaker 5>it's called a work fire contract. When you make these characters.

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<v Speaker 5>When you create them, they are owned by Marvel. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>the question is when you signed that contract, did you

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<v Speaker 5>know that Marvel or DC would become the biggest blockbuster

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<v Speaker 5>industry in the entire world and you were creating characters

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<v Speaker 5>that could be used to make billions of dollars. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>there's lots of creators who have talked out about this

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<v Speaker 5>a lot. Jim Stalin, the creator of Thanos, he he

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<v Speaker 5>basically talked shit on Marvel not paying him and Disney

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<v Speaker 5>not paying him until they did, and it was incredible,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is Jason kind of pointed this out before

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<v Speaker 5>we started talking. But you can maybe get paid by Disney,

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<v Speaker 5>but you're gonna have to go after them to get

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<v Speaker 5>that money. And also, the crediting thing is interesting because

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<v Speaker 5>David Aheart is a really really extreme example. The entire

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<v Speaker 5>Hawkeye credits are taken from his art style, all the

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<v Speaker 5>promotional work, and he did a tweet where he said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not bothered about being credited like Disney, just how

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<v Speaker 5>about you pay me? Essentially I'm paraphrasing, and that made

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<v Speaker 5>people say, wait, he's not getting paid. Basically, he does

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<v Speaker 5>get a technical credit where if you wait till the

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<v Speaker 5>end of Hawkeye, and I always write all of these

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<v Speaker 5>and explain who is being thankedful what. In my Easter eggs,

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<v Speaker 5>you can see a special thanks. They have this at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of movies, and that is essentially where they

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<v Speaker 5>acknowledge the people who created either the characters or the

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<v Speaker 5>story arcs which are being taken from. There was a

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<v Speaker 5>creator who was one of the co creators of Yolena

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<v Speaker 5>the Black Widow, who came out and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when you get the special Thanks, there is a set

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<v Speaker 5>payment that Marvel is allegedly gonna send you. But even

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<v Speaker 5>that five thousand dollars or whatever it's supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 5>is not something that they immediately send you five yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's to seek them out apparently to get it.

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<v Speaker 5>So the special thanks is it's there. I'm glad it exists,

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<v Speaker 5>but I would like to see a Hawkeye based on

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<v Speaker 5>characters by with the big credit, you know, that would

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<v Speaker 5>be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, this is.

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<v Speaker 4>A contracting issue.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an ongoing issue that multiple corporations have and that

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<v Speaker 5>Comic Books is at the very heart of. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's really really cool that Ash pointed this out,

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<v Speaker 5>because I think it's the question a lot of people have,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think a lot of people assume that anyone

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<v Speaker 5>who writes comics is a millionaire because these movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's one hundred which is, as we know, zig one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent true?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrote Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think it's really cool that people are having

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<v Speaker 5>these conversations. I would love for David a how to

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<v Speaker 5>get paid more? I would And so another thing that

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<v Speaker 5>people were kind of confused about, specifically with Hawkeye, Matt

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<v Speaker 5>for Action is listed as a consulting producer. So a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people said, oh, why isn't David ahar listed

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<v Speaker 5>as that. We don't know what those conversations we had

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<v Speaker 5>between the two of them, but what we do know

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<v Speaker 5>is Disney and Marvel Studios did not reach out to

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<v Speaker 5>Matt Fraction to be a consulting producer. In fact, it

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<v Speaker 5>was revealed that Seth Myers put him in touch with

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<v Speaker 5>the creative team on the show and said he because

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<v Speaker 5>that he was friends with both of them, and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>why don't you bring.

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<v Speaker 6>Maw and as a producer. So Disney is not doing

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<v Speaker 6>that outreach.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all about the personal connections that you make and

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of willingness that you have to fight and

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<v Speaker 5>David Aha, he's very happy. Man doesn't really sell his

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<v Speaker 5>original art, makes his cool art, Like he kind of

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<v Speaker 5>did a ship post about Disney and I think now

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<v Speaker 5>he's just like, don't worry about me.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, Like I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Rosie covered everything that needed to be covered.

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<v Speaker 3>But also it's one of those things where like there's

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<v Speaker 3>no comic book unions like I'm I'm a television writers,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we have a whole union that's fault for years

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that if I somebody ever adapts anythings

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<v Speaker 3>that I've written, I get a pretty nice check and

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<v Speaker 3>not just like I don't have to like hunt down

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<v Speaker 3>the head of Sony.

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<v Speaker 1>Studios to get there to find them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not the you know, I'm not Liam Neeson

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<v Speaker 3>trying to track down the guy who took my money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Which is to say union productions are great. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be great to have those in the comics

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<v Speaker 2>industry so there more be a more equitable division of

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<v Speaker 2>the monies which creators helped generate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's all in all a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good thing that I hope we see more of than

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<v Speaker 2>that we could fight for that's that would be good,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would urge everyone to examine their personal relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with corporations whenever they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Y up next more mail bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Continuing with the Hawkeye subject the Ronan suit, Tara asks

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<v Speaker 2>where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 1>And why is it called that? Rosie? Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to take us down into the lore?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's my dream.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I have to say, O, I thought I would

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<v Speaker 5>hate it. I'm a Jeremy Renner hater, but the show

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<v Speaker 5>is great. I love all the characters they included. And

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<v Speaker 5>so basically, something very cool. The first ever Ronan was

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<v Speaker 5>actually Echo New Avengers eleven Brian Michael Bennison Jokesada created her,

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<v Speaker 5>and then Clint took on the mantle and a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of other people took it on. But something that is

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<v Speaker 5>really cool is that originally Ronan was actually meant to

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<v Speaker 5>be revealed as Matt Murdoch, but editorially there was like

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<v Speaker 5>a conflict with the Dead Evil title, so they went

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<v Speaker 5>with Echo. So you have Echo and then you have Clint,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is where Ronan comes from, and Echoed that

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<v Speaker 5>was just her cool costume. But obviously it's inverted here

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<v Speaker 5>where we saw Clint have the suit first in the MCU,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you know, we haven't seen Echo.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a fake out in New Avengers, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever issue that is. Captain America goes to see

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<v Speaker 2>Daredevil and is like, hey, I need somebody for this mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know anyway? I think you'd be great.

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<v Speaker 2>For it, and Matt's like, maybe I would, And then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, this Ronan shows up. But then

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fake out and it's actually spoiler Echo.

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<v Speaker 3>Also it's it's rown in r O N I N

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<v Speaker 3>for those who are playing at home, rone in r

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<v Speaker 3>A in. The accuser wrote in.

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<v Speaker 4>That I understand the confusion, but it's Roan. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>the it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The Letlone Samurai Ronan.

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<v Speaker 2>The accuser is of course a Cree and part of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Accuser squad, who are kind of like combined

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<v Speaker 2>an extension of the pre military slash judicial system slash

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<v Speaker 2>warrior who goes out there and is like judge, jury

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<v Speaker 2>and executioner like everywhere in space where he is continuing

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<v Speaker 2>with more stuff that can kind of branch off from Hawkeye.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Angtrik asks, where when how do we think that

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<v Speaker 2>the MCU will officially do Young Avengers who I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they're all here, which is great. As soon as Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Stranger in the Multiverse of Madness comes out, we will

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<v Speaker 2>get America Chaves, so are all here but one? Well

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<v Speaker 2>Hulkling also okay, so never mind they're not all here,

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<v Speaker 2>we're missing Hulking in American showing they're on their way soon.

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<v Speaker 1>When do we think we'll see them?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think uh, I mean you already touched

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<v Speaker 3>the America job as I'm wondering if there will be

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<v Speaker 3>some hopeling action in Secret Wars. I'm thinking maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>when we'll get a little bit more of the scroll Side,

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<v Speaker 3>because we really haven't gotten much out of them outside

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, a Thoroughway joke in the second Spider

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<v Speaker 3>Man movie and and you know Captain Marvel. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>hoping there will be some hopeing action and then and

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<v Speaker 3>then we can finally all come together and get my

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see my boy Patriot leading the charge

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<v Speaker 3>like see signs.

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<v Speaker 1>All.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I really I think that Post one division. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we know that we have late wi Can and speed

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<v Speaker 5>and and and like with Secret Invasion coming, we could

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<v Speaker 5>definitely see Hulkling come there. Jason, you mentioned before we

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<v Speaker 5>were recording about it being very suited for TV, and

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<v Speaker 5>I actually think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be a show. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be a show, like I think it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a Young Avengers show. Maybe they'll move out to

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<v Speaker 2>la It feels like it feels like Kate already needs

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<v Speaker 2>a change of scenery age. He's already thinking about the

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<v Speaker 2>warmer climates, get a new start somewhere else. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll move out there and they'll do some stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's something I've been thinking about's sort of an asidety.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned secret invasion. Who's the scroll?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody right now? Is the scroll? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>You know it?

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<v Speaker 4>You know there's a scroll somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who's the scroll right now? In the MCU it's someone.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh boy do I used to be the number one

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<v Speaker 5>at talk.

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<v Speaker 6>I used to be like, it's why would he do

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<v Speaker 6>all of this stuff? That's not the case.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen the show. I take it all back. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sorry I've been wrong for like five years.

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<v Speaker 6>It's probably gonna be someone less. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be shieldy or someone less obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the idea of it being like in the

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<v Speaker 5>comics where it's this huge, sprawling thing, but I think

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<v Speaker 5>Figi said it's going to be much more intimate, much

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<v Speaker 5>more kind of paranoid, scary, kind of like espionage drama.

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<v Speaker 5>So in that way, I think it's going to much

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<v Speaker 5>more likely to be a shield type kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>secondary character, but still that's gonna have a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of impact.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they've already infiltrated swords, so like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm with Rosie. I think it'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that person that had three lines in that one scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I predicted Maria Hills. That's really Yeah, here's a fun well, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a great opportunity to talk about a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that caused a lot of controversy. What if it's Officer

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<v Speaker 2>Paxton aka Bobby Canavali from the from the from the

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<v Speaker 2>ant Man universe, or someone's like someone's wife and or

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<v Speaker 2>partner and or kid being a scroll. I think could

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<v Speaker 2>be fun and so let me address this now. Many

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<v Speaker 2>people were like, hey, did Jason forget that Bobby canavally

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<v Speaker 2>is offers practicing from ant Man? Uh, no idea forget?

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<v Speaker 2>But what I did forget to do? And this is

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. This is like a mal and I used

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this on bingemin all the time, where

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<v Speaker 2>we are so used to talking to each other about

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, that would you forget that this is for

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<v Speaker 2>people and that you have to provide context all the

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<v Speaker 2>time for things. And we'll just like have like inside

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<v Speaker 2>jokes and non sequitters that make it onto the tape

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<v Speaker 2>and you listen back and you're like, this is like

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<v Speaker 2>a statement that is referencing nothing like only we would

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<v Speaker 2>get this. So, yes, I knew that he is Officer Paxson.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that I forgot to mention is like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of examples of double casting. Jemma Chan is

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<v Speaker 2>in Captain Marvel and is in The Eternals, Aaron Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas is Quicksilver and is now Craven. There's other examples.

0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Josh Brolin YadA, YadA, YadA. That said, yes, I knew it,

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<v Speaker 2>I should have said it, and I humbly apologize to

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<v Speaker 2>all of you. Next question, Brandon asks what are our

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 2>favorites heroes take break issues? My fave, though it's two issues,

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<v Speaker 2>is Tom King's Superman Batman double date.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a good one. It's really it was Selena.

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<v Speaker 1>Really that is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of those like, I'm not a DC person,

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<v Speaker 2>but I read it in which Selena and Lois become

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite duo. Ever, that's a great question, Brandon Rosie,

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favorite?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so my most recent one.

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<v Speaker 5>And this actually made me think of it as in

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<v Speaker 5>the DC Pride issue, Danny Law did this story about

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 5>the non binary Flashes Chambers getting ready to go on

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<v Speaker 5>a date and it has big that kind of energy. Also,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a big fan of any time that the X

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Men play baseball. And for my Hawkeye easter eggs, I

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 5>was doing my funny like is there a number? Was

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 5>it a easter egg to an issue? And I found

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<v Speaker 5>this issue of Avengers three twenty five and it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>after this big drama and they have a break and

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<v Speaker 5>so Circe holds a party and while there is some

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 5>shenanigans like the waiting stuff end up trying to kill them,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 5>most of the thing is just that Avengers just having

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<v Speaker 5>this party and Circe using her magical powers to make

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<v Speaker 5>them have a really cool party, and it's so much fun.

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 6>It's like absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Zig I was trying to think of one off the

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<v Speaker 3>tone and now I'm thinking of immediately going to anime

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>and manga, and like, my favorite one is Dragon Ball

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<v Speaker 3>super There's an episode where everyone just plays a baseball

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 3>game because the character Yamcha is a professional baseball player

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 3>in the universe of that of that series, and like

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 3>it's just all the players playing a game. There's like

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<v Speaker 3>gods on one side and god on the other side,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just play a game of baseball. That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the entire stakes of that particular episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Sports anime and anime and manga have such good slice

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 5>of live stuff, Like superhero comics need to really get

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<v Speaker 5>to that level.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>My uh, this is a this is a pair. So

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite two would be Uncanny X Men to forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from the Claremont run when they were when

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<v Speaker 2>the X Men were in Australia. It's called Ladies Knights,

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 2>the Debut of Jubilee. The Uncanny X Men. You know,

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 2>they're out there all dirty and the Australian outback and

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 2>they're like, you know what, we need a break from

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>all this bullshit fighting the Reavers out here in the dust.

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the mall.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 4>What do you.

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's teleport to La and go to the mall and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where they meet Jubilee, who makes her debut in

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 2>that episode. It's really fun. And then during the Brian

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Michael Bendis Uncanny X Men run, which I quite enjoyed.

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Actually during the Inhumanity event in which you know, the

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>inhuman terrogen bomb released and this was like positioning the

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 2>in humans to be, you know, like the kind of

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 2>next force of powered individuals in Earth culture. There is

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<v Speaker 2>an issue I think it's Issue it's Issue fifteen, and

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 2>it's basically all the ladies' ex ladies go out and

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 2>they go shopping once again. They go to it's all

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>this terrigen shit is happening, and they're like, you know what,

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Emma frost Iliana, Kitty fucking Tempest, Jan Great, the original

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Gene of the time transport did Jean Gray, like the

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 2>original Gen Gray from the sixties transported to the to

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 2>the present day and the step Ford Cuckoos all go

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<v Speaker 2>shopping and it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh those are just my favorite. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like our heroes, they're fighting all the time.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>They need a fucking break. They need a break sometime. Okay,

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Scott asks Uh, do you think they'll do stories from

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.439
<v Speaker 2>the blip the MCU. Do you think we'll see stories

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 2>from the Blip? If so, what or who would you

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>want to see? I'd love to see Rocket writing emails. Yeah,

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I think. I think if if the developments within Hawkeye

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and and within you know, the various MCU movie properties

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 2>that if that are coming out, are any indication we

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 2>are going to explore the Blip as like this global

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 2>traumatic event more and more. There's gonna be a lot

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of things that come out of that. I think it's

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna be an origin story for villains and heroes. Uh,

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna see a lot more of what happened there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a great it's so comic sye because it's

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>like this huge event that just is vast in scope

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.959
<v Speaker 2>that you know, whatever creative team wants to can just

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 2>go in and be like, Okay, I'm staking out this

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>area of the Blip and saying this happened.

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be super fun. What about y'all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's such like it's such a get

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 3>out of Joe free car, Like here's five years It

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>is where anything could happen and no matter what is

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:24.959
<v Speaker 3>going to be reset at the end of it, So

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>do what you want to do. I think, to Jason's point,

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 3>you'll see a lot of I think you'll see a

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of origin stories, or you'll see a lot of

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>like those seeds planted, like like I mean, I'm sure

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming re Re happens after in yes, she's probably

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 3>directly inspired by Ironman, but like if you seek a

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 3>little bit of what she was going on during like

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 3>the five year period or like, uh, if they do

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>like want to do like a young Avenger stuff, like

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe they have some throwback stuff to happening like in

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 3>that time as a timeframe as well.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just to quickly hijack episode five of Hawkeye and

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the Black Widow who Yolena attempts to rescue but is

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>actually fine and is just doing hits. But now after

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 2>the blip, she comes back and this woman has like

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 2>adopted a kid with their partner. I don't think that

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>that kid is Rebey Williams, but I also would not

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 2>be surprised if that kid was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah, we'll continue what we're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely no, No, I just agree with you both.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 5>I think it's like it's this hilarious comic book thing

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 5>where it's kind of a nightmare to have to explain it,

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 5>but it also gives people like a lot of freedom.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 5>And there's definitely I won't say what, but there's like

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 5>there's one plot point in No Way Home, like it's

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 5>a thoroughway line, but I would love to see that

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 5>expanded on.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 6>If you've seen it, you'll know what it is. I

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 6>think The Blip has a lot.

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 5>Of fun space, and I definitely think with what if

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 5>with the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special coming up,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 5>I think there's likely that we might get some kind

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 5>of anthology of the Blip where you could mix funny

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 5>stuff with that darker more kind of like Carly style

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 5>Falcon the Winter Sold just storytelling, because there's gonna be

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 5>funny stuff like you know, rocket sending emails, people trying

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 5>to live their lives, is going to be terrible traumatic

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 5>stuff like Calie staw Cap dealing with it and stuff.

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I think it's I think it's a ripe

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 5>for exploration, but there's also like a twenty percent chance

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 5>that in about a year they'll just stop mentioning it.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's an absolute night Matt.

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like back with more listener mail.

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<v Speaker 2>After this, Andreas asks what do we all think about uh?

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And might we talk about the live action Cowboy BEBAP

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and Netflix's Arcane, which Zig and I have been a

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>texting back and forth about.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Zig, do you want to do? You want to say?

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Arcane is the cleanest shit I've ever seen? Like that

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 3>is very, very so good, Like I will say so.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Riot Studios is the game studio that these games are

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 3>based off of League Legends, but like they they have

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 3>been making fantastic shorts, animated shorts for almost a decade,

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Like the same studio that I think it's a French name.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to but I don't want to say

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 3>it because Butcher it. But like that studio has been

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 3>making fantastic shorts for the better part of a decade,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 3>really great stuff. And like there are so many moments

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>at watching the series where I was just trying to

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>figure out, like how they were doing the shot. It

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.719
<v Speaker 3>seemed like they were doing like a combination of like

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>live mocap and then going back over and doing digital

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 3>painting over every single frame, And I was like, this

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 3>is fantastic, and that's not even that's not even taken

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 3>to effect. That's the points where they like break animation style.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Like there's a bunch of there's some really cool set

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>pieces where they they just break the animation style and

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 3>go intothing that's completely different. Also, it's completely cool. I

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 3>cannot wait for more of this type of animation to

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>get out there, and like, I hope that the series

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>does numbers, which it seems like it is doing.

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 5>It's like definitely the most exciting experimental animation since like

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 5>Into the Spite of Us, Like the way they play

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 5>with holding lines, the way they play with animation styles,

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 5>the way that they use animation to tell the story

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 5>and create the world, but in a way that's not narrative.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 5>It's just to do it a day.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah.

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 5>And also Hailey Steinfeld's she's killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I am almost done with the first season of Arcane.

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<v Speaker 2>It is fucking great. Episode two just launches in a

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>completely different direction that I'm not versed in the League

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 2>of Legends lure at all. So this is my intradiction

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to Jinx and the rest of these characters. But I'll

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>just say, like it is really great, Like it's really

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>really good.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>There are a couple of times, like especially kind of

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>like two shots or full body shots where a characters

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>like walking into a space where I'm like, man.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Did they mocap this?

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Like this looks the uncanny Valley feeling is amazing. And

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>then some of the fights are so unbelievably brutal and good.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>It's really really great, so watchable, action packed, and like

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>the characters are really I mean, Jinx is like up

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 2>there is an all time like, hm, can you fix

0:31:55.160 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>her character? Just like Kyle asks, will you be doing

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 2>any video game segments on the show? Elden Ring, which

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>is the new game from soft game God of War, Ragnarrock,

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Horizin Zerodonna's Breath of the Wild, a lot of other

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>great games coming out this year. I think that would

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 2>be really fun to do. I think the release of

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the live action Halo long awaited long live action Halo show,

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I think is a good opportunity to do that. I

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>was Cody and I were recently commiserating about, like how

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>good the original Eric Nyland Halo books are.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they got no business being that good, but they

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 3>were fantastic.

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Stupendously good.

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Like if you like if you like space, military, naval action,

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>if you loved enders game, Fall of Reach and the

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>rest of them by Eric Nyland are so much better

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>than they should be. And I've been playing the heck

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>out of the new Halo game, so I think that

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that would be a cool thing to talk about in

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>the future. If you all are game Rosie, do you

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>are you playing anything right now that you like?

0:32:59.280 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean I I love playing games.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't play I have a I have a switch

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 5>in a PlayStation, but I do mostly play like indie games.

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 5>So I've been playing like Spirit Fairer pretty extensively. I

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>love Breath of the Wild, so I will turn that's

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 5>love that the sequel is like my most anticipated movie.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 5>I have a Zelda TI that's like one hundred percent

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 5>my ship.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Let me see where.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, I'm.

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Rosie and I forgot podcast audio.

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<v Speaker 2>We have, Rosy and I are showing off oursell the tattoos.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still playing Animal Crossing like way too much because.

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<v Speaker 4>Cozy Grove. I mean for me, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Switch actually, like expanding into letting third party developers make

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 5>so many games has been like life changing. I just

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 5>play whenever there's a sale. I just buy a ton

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 5>of random indie games and it has been like a

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 5>total blessing. But I know I will be I will

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<v Speaker 5>be moving back to the Triple A because like obviously

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<v Speaker 5>the Wolverine game is, oh yeah, it comes out, I

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 5>will be there, and the first I love Spider Man,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 5>I love Mars Morales. I love the Arkham games because

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<v Speaker 5>I love that fighting mecanim So I'm ready for that

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<v Speaker 5>with Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm there.

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<v Speaker 2>Continuing on the on the video game tip, Danny Brandy

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<v Speaker 2>asks thoughts on the Witcher season one and a chiance

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<v Speaker 2>we get any hard coverage of season two.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 3>Much as Jason never played League Legends, I had never

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 3>played in neither Witcher series or read any of the books,

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>So like I just watched the series and like I

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<v Speaker 3>really liked it, Like I I it's a it's as fun.

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 3>It's big budget, but also there's like some fun practical stuff,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Like they just have practical effects, and like that's a

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 3>thing that's still near and dial to my my old souls.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Like I like seeing it. I like knowing that there's

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 3>like an actual guy with one eye dressed up as

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>like a satyr, like next to Henry Cavill. Like that's great.

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 3>It seems like they're really making a push Netflix wise,

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<v Speaker 3>like make that like an expanded universe, because I think

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 3>they have like an anime or an animated series, animated

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 3>feature for in the Witcher universe. So like I'm all

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>aboard like anything that makes like big fun sci fi

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 3>or fantasy, Like, I'll give it a chance. I'm into it.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 5>I didn't like love the show, but the book I

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 5>actually got into because the show came out and the

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 5>game is great, but the books are actually like really good,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Like if you're looking for that weird sci fi.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 4>They are like weird and good, and I really like that.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 5>The focus for the new seasons of the Witcher is

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 5>like really inclusive and like changing that kind of idea

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<v Speaker 5>of who is usually in fantasy. So I'm definitely gonna

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna give it a try as they spread, and

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 5>I think the series was meant to be incredible. I

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 5>haven't watched it yet, but it got like a lot of.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Love from anime fans I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the series a lot.

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I especially like as a game player, and full disclosure,

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Witcher three is really sure that I've played, but I

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>loved Witchard three. I was really impressed by Henry Cavill's

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>just like kind of grunts because his grunts were directly

0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the game, just like that stuff is.

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, that it sounds just like the game.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, stay tuned. I think that's definitely something that

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 2>we could do. Yeah, and then finally Alex asks, I'm

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>looking for recommendations for fantasy sci fi adventure novels. The

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 2>problem I have is a lot of recommendations I find

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 2>online or books that are too hard to follow. They

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>haven't have way too many characters with unfamiliar names. I

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>can't cap track of them. Any recommendations for easy fun reads.

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Love the show. Thanks Alex, Rosie, you had some You

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>had some good ones for this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I totally relate to this because I absolutely love fantasy,

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 5>and I grew up on really dense, esoteric, hardcore stuff

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 5>and sometimes you just want that easier to get into,

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 5>like captive read. So some that I have been throwing

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 5>out Six of Crows, which is by Libadugo, which is

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 5>basically a spinoff of Shadow and Bone. But Six of

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 5>Crows is like, well ultimate, So Six of Crows is

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 5>an ultimate badass high story that is just one of

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 5>the most incredible books I've never met anyone who hasn't

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 5>read it in about two days because it is just

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 5>the most gripping stuff and if you like it, you

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 5>can go in to Shadow and Bone, but this is

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 5>really its own great story. I read a brilliant book

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 5>recently called The Gilded Ones by Namina Forumna, which is like.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 4>A fantasy story about.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 5>A young woman who bleeds gold and in her village

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 5>that means that she's a witch. And it basically is

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 5>this monster dragon mythology with a brilliant black lead and

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 5>it is just really cool and has a lot of

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 5>twists and if you want to chill one, but that

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 5>is one of the best books I've read.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 4>There's this book called The.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 6>House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ.

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 5>Kloon, and it's about a world where magic is real

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 5>and a guy who works for a very boring Douglas

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 5>adamsesque kind of dystopian government has to go and look

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 5>at the orphanages where magic children are kept, and they're

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 5>usually horrible, and one time he goes and he's assigned

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 5>to this place with this very charming father figure with

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 5>all these weird children, one of whom is the Antichrist,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 5>and it's basically this weird found family, X Men and

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 5>quea brilliant story, and I.

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Just it's so good. It's just so good.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I will add to those, well, listen if you're looking

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>for a space adventure that is a super fun fast,

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:17.479
<v Speaker 2>funny read. Rosie just mentioned Douglas Adams. The Hitchhiker's Guides

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>to the Galaxy books are just fucking hilarious.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>They're so funny.

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like it actually makes me mad how funny they are,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Like it enrages me that they're that good. I would

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>also add Makaiah Johnson's The Space Between Worlds, which came

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>out this year. It is one of the more original

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>like alternate universe kind of like sci fi's that I've

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>read lately, and it's got a really interesting like social

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 2>justice message in it, diverse characters, author of color, really good.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I would recommend that. And then The Past is read

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:02.240
<v Speaker 2>by Catherine Valenti, which is like also like really funny,

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a magical realism sci fi and like

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>this like garbage post apocalyptic future. It's stark, but there's

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>like a there's like a lightness and a fun to it.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>And then I guess, like I find sometimes like starting

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 2>like a whole ass novel can be really daunting, So

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, give me short stories. Ted Chiang's Exhalation compilation

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 2>of short stories is really great. The first one, Like,

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 2>go to a bookstore, find that book and just read

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the first one and if it doesn't grab you, then

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>don't read the rest of it.

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But if it grabs you, just buy the book. Folks.

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>This was super fun, big thanks to Rosie and Cody.

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<v Speaker 2>Where can people find more of you?

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<v Speaker 3>If you're looking for me? Yeah, for zig on social

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>media at Instagram and Twitter, and I'm assuming you're like

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 3>amazing spider Man dot bay. Those are my spidy comics

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>and you read those and them that make Happy New

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<v Speaker 3>Year for me?

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<v Speaker 5>At Bay I got it and May and Doc Rock

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 5>that's like my ide really deliver it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was like, this is why we're on the

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<v Speaker 6>show together. This is.

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm Rosie Marx on Instagram.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 5>And if you like any of this stuff I talked

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 5>about that, I've written a ton of different stuff about it.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 5>If the creator ownership stuff seemed interesting to you, I

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 5>wrote a really big piece on Esquire about stan Lee

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 5>and his impact on creator ownership.

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 4>The good sides, the bad sides, and.

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 5>That's a really good primer for forgetting more into this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And also, I think we touched on it before, but

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 5>Image Comics workers tried to start a union recently, so

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<v Speaker 5>like email, Image support those workers and maybe we can

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<v Speaker 5>get a comic book union.

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