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Speaker 1: We have got an exciting lineup for you today. Our

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Speaker 1: special guests of the pod is Wide Receivers coach Keenan McCardell.

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Speaker 1: He breaks down his coaching style, how he uses his

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Speaker 2: A player with his current players.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we talk about Justin Jefferson's new contract, the

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Speaker 1: new highest paid non QB in the lead, signed a

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Speaker 1: talk about the mandatory mini camp that just wrapped up

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Speaker 1: here at Twin City's Orthopedics Performance Center. And of course,

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Speaker 1: we touch on the new Winter Warrior uniforms. All of

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Speaker 1: that and more coming up on the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. This is episode two

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five. My name is Tatum Everett. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Jay Nelson, our producer Eric Davidson. Gabe Henderson

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Speaker 1: is at a conference right now, you know, just shirping.

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Speaker 1: It's been a big week here though, over at the

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Speaker 4: of how do you keep the fun within that dynamic

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00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 4: of those guys and just make sure that everyone kind of,

440
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 4: you know, is getting along and is able to function

441
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 4: together as a group.

442
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 6: You know, we keep it as a tight knit family.

443
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 6: Big brother, little brother.

444
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 5: You know.

445
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 6: I guess I'm the overseer, I'm the dad or whatever

446
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 6: you want to call it. But uh, you know, we

447
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 6: kind of we keep everything out in the open.

448
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 5: We never hide things, you know.

449
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 6: We if somebody's getting corrected, it's corrected in front of

450
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 6: the group. That means if it's JJ Jordan. If it's speedy,

451
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 6: I mean Brandon power. We keep it out, you know,

452
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 6: and I always you know, I was always taught that

453
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 6: you got to be able to take constructive criticism in

454
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 6: your group, and uh, it builds a tight knit family.

455
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 5: And and that's how we do it.

456
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 6: I mean, before I could even you know, correct somebody,

457
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 6: somebody else's carreer correcting the person. And you know, if

458
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 6: they have questions, it's a lot of people that's answering

459
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 6: those questions because they've heard it from me. So we

460
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 6: kind of keep it that way. And it's been fun.

461
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 6: It's been it's been working out. It's it's been great

462
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 6: to be honest with you.

463
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: What is something that you've seen change in Justine as

464
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: far as his leadership skills go over the last couple

465
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: of seasons.

466
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 6: You know what, when I first got here in twenty one,

467
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 6: he was very quiet. He kind of let Adam do

468
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 6: all the talking and stuff like that. Now he's more vostuous.

469
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 6: He he teaches more. And I just started laughing. I'm like,

470
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 6: I remember when you were was just the quiet puppy

471
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 6: sitting back in the corner listening, and but he was

472
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 6: he was taking it all in so when he got

473
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 6: his chance, like right now, he can he can speak

474
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 6: clearly and speak with with experience of what he's done

475
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 6: and what he's been through for for a lot of

476
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 6: the young guys and some of the guys that have

477
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 6: uh you know that have the same years that he's

478
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 6: has an experienced.

479
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 4: And like the kind of the humble nature of just

480
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 4: doing that and that growth process for him being able

481
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: to do that, Like where does that come from?

482
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: Do you think?

483
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 5: You know?

484
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 6: I think it it really came from listening to Adam.

485
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 6: You know, I think uh Adam was a was a

486
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 6: good role model for him coming in as a young player,

487
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 6: guy that put everything out on the field in practice,

488
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 6: showed him how to practice, showed him how to be

489
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 6: a leader. You know, I think he was he was

490
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 6: taking it all in. He's a very observant person. People

491
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 6: don't think, you know, he's paying attention, but he's paying attention.

492
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 6: And he'll he'll he'll shoot it back at you if

493
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 6: if you're not if you're not, if you're not ready

494
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 6: for it, and he'll he'll put it right back on

495
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 6: you and you'll be like, well, you was listening.

496
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 3: It sounds like a younger sibling.

497
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 6: Trade think about it. He has two older brothers that

498
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 6: played at L s U, so he had to go

499
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 6: through it and and you know, he does it very well.

500
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 6: Right now, I think, uh, the fact that he is

501
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 6: our leader, and I think he's he's he's really taking

502
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 6: hold to it right now. I think the last year

503
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 6: was his first year really being a guy. This year

504
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 6: he knows he's the guy. And you know, it's kind

505
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 6: of like, Okay, I'm riding a bicycle and I'm wobbling

506
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 6: a little bit and now I got it. Now I'm

507
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 6: up straight strong, and he's riding it right now. So

508
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to the season of his leadership, and

509
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 6: you know, we're looking for big things for him.

510
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: Do you ever have to adapt your or evolve, I

511
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: should say, your coaching style to what when a player

512
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: goes from being like the younger pup in the room

513
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: to now being the leader.

514
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 5: Not really.

515
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 6: I kind of continue to to try to make sure

516
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 6: that they are understanding that I am going to be

517
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 6: the same person day in and day out.

518
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna change.

519
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 6: You gotta get used to me, and I'm gonna get

520
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 6: used to you, you know.

521
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 5: And I think as you grow.

522
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 6: I probably don't talk to you as much as I

523
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 6: talk to a younger guy. But I am talking to you.

524
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 6: I might not say, justin this is what I need

525
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: you to do. I might just start talking about, well,

526
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 6: we didn't do this, dude, this is this you know

527
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 6: right now, as an older guy i'm talking to you,

528
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 6: I'm not I don't you know. I don't have to say, hey,

529
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 6: Jay shun, this is what's going on because he's a

530
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 6: young guy to get his attention. But if I just say, hey, man,

531
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 6: we're not we're not hustling to the ball, we're not

532
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 6: blocking in the run game. The leader knows I'm talking

533
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 6: to him. It's time for him to step up and

534
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 6: say something. Say something to the group for sure. And

535
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 6: I was looking online too, like you know your roster group.

536
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 6: I think you've got what twelve people in your room

537
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 6: at this point?

538
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 5: Yes, I did.

539
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: So. It's like a classroom, like a real class exactly.

540
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: So like for you, how do you then make sure

541
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 4: that you're able to kind of filter that down and

542
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: get the kind of instruction and tutelage that everyone needs

543
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: within that room to make sure that they get the

544
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: attention that each of them individually needed.

545
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 6: You know, I tell them this all the time. When

546
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 6: I'm making a correction to Trisian, Just and Jordan, I

547
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 6: tell the young guys, I'm talking to you too. Likewise

548
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 6: vice versa. If I'm talking to the young guys, older guys,

549
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 6: don't think I'm not talking to you. I mean because

550
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 6: you've went through this before. So when I'm speaking, I'm

551
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 6: speaking to everybody in the room. I might call somebody's name,

552
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 6: but if I call somebody name to correct them on

553
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 6: a mistake, you better not get up at the next

554
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 6: play and make the same mistake. Sure, so you know

555
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 6: that I'm talking to everybody in the room, and I

556
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 6: tell these guys all the time that you play receiver.

557
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 6: You don't play a position. Sure you play you got

558
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 6: to play all three of the positions. You got U

559
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 6: or a wide receiver, so let's play wide receiver.

560
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 4: And having that kind of structure then for you to

561
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: set that up, is that something you're molding after something

562
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 4: that you had as well, or was it more of

563
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: a I didn't get that kind of structure, And now

564
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 4: I know what I needed anow that you're a coach.

565
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 6: Now I got it up front in person from coach

566
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 6: Richard Man that who coached me in Cleveland and in Tampa,

567
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 6: and I kind of molded it, mold my pattern of

568
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 6: coaching behind him because he was so good as a

569
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 6: communicator of getting points across. Used to say, I'm gonna

570
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 6: tell you something, but I can't tell you the full story.

571
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 6: But if you can read between the lines, you know

572
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. And I and I, and that's

573
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 6: his way of saying that I'm going to be truthful

574
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 6: to you to a certain point. But if you can

575
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 6: read between the lines, I would be truthful all the

576
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 6: way to you. And if you can read between the lines,

577
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And most of the time,

578
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 6: when you tell a man what you need him to do.

579
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 5: He does it for anybody. Really.

580
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 6: You know, he's I need you to go clean your

581
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 6: bathroom before you can go out to go play. Most

582
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 6: kids are going to go clean their bathrooms so they

583
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 6: can go out and play. Right, Yeah, tell them what

584
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 6: they want and they you get it from them.

585
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Take us inside a meeting, like how do you how

586
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: do you start it off? How do you get you know,

587
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: how do you kind of construct those.

588
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 6: It's funny, you know, I might come in like I'm

589
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 6: usually pretty joyful every day, you know, because I'm we

590
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 6: wake up.

591
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: You should be joyful.

592
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: You should make the day, make the best of the

593
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 6: day because you're alive. You got a chance to wake up.

594
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 6: If I come in, I'm I'm probably cracking a joke

595
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 6: or something like that. You know, I talk about I

596
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 6: asked them, guys, you know what how was they day?

597
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 6: You know what what happened at night? You know, everything

598
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 6: was good. We go through a little something and then

599
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 6: we'll usually get right into it. Because I know my guys,

600
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 6: they like to chatter a little bit in between while

601
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 6: I'm talking of them. I'm a person that you know,

602
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 6: I let them talk because they're if they're talking about football,

603
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 6: they're communicating. Because I always stress communication on the field

604
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 6: because if somebody doesn't know and you know, and you

605
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 6: don't tell them, that's your fault because you didn't tell them,

606
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 6: you know. So we got to be team players, you know.

607
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 6: One big thing I tell them, guys, we work for

608
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 6: each other. We work for each other. You know, you guys,

609
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: justin just made one hundred and forty million. You had

610
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: a part of him getting one hundred and forty million.

611
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: So the next time he's going to have you. You

612
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 6: get your contract, He's helped you get your so we

613
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 6: all work together. So I kind of make it like that,

614
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 6: and then we get into the details the nuances of

615
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 6: playing receiver, things that they see. You know, we will

616
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 6: get into teaching and going over to film work and

617
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: I might get a question what would you have done here?

618
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 6: And you know, I would tell him, you know, I said,

619
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 6: and I'm like kind of like I heard this analogy

620
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 6: from Jason Kidd. He doesn't tell him what to do.

621
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 6: He kind of tells his players what he would have

622
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 6: done in that situation. And I kind of tell him that.

623
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 6: But in the meantime, I'm really telling them what to do.

624
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I tell.

625
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want them to see it as a

626
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 6: true receiver and as a coach on the field, like

627
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 6: you got to be able to have them the same

628
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 6: mindset that the quarterbacks have and the same mindset that

629
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 6: your offensive coordinator's got. So I think that's something that

630
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 6: I try to do. And I don't really just I

631
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: kind of walk them through it. Yeah, and I say, well,

632
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: I've been in this situation and this is what happened

633
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 6: to me. Wam same thing happened on the film, this

634
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 6: is what I did in that situation. I never I

635
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 6: never get a chance to show my fam because I

636
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: get fine for that, but I kind of walk them

637
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 6: through situations like that.

638
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: Sure, So as a guy who's been on kind of

639
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: both sides of the fence there, you know, one of

640
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: the things I worked with a bunch of legacy guys

641
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: and they always the phrase always comes out, ball is

642
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: ball and kind of the attitude of as a former

643
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: player and now as a coach, what in general do

644
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: you feel is is still the same and what is

645
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: monumentally different from when you had played.

646
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: The same as ball as ball?

647
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 6: You still get the same goosebumps on the side line

648
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: as a coach that you do as a player, because

649
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: probably more because you don't know what you think you

650
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 6: have them prepared, but you know, you you don't control it.

651
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 6: Once they step across the white line, that they're in control.

652
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 5: So you're you're.

653
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 6: Hoping that you've did your job, you know, the prior

654
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 6: four days to get them ready, you know, for the game.

655
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: On the coaching side, you know what, I think the

656
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 6: biggest thing that's different is that the hours the studying,

657
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 6: you see the film, you know, and most coaches forget

658
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 6: that players or players, and I don't forget that.

659
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Speaker 5: Because as a coach, you're.

660
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: There all night studying and looking at it, at the

661
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 6: defense and the opposing team that you're looking at and

662
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 6: studying these plays. You know, I might the back of

663
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Speaker 6: your hand. But as a player, think about this. They

664
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Speaker 6: got to go home to their wives. The kids still

665
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: got to have some time to themselves outside outside life,

666
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 6: so it's kind of like they might not be spending

667
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 6: as much time as we are as coaches.

668
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: So you can't forget that. Now.

669
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Speaker 6: Being a coach, I gotta say, I remember when I

670
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 6: was a player. I probably went home and I looked

671
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 6: at my notebook, but probably once or twice during the week,

672
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 6: but looked at it more right before the game than

673
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 6: I did throughout the week because I felt like I

674
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 6: knew it and you know, I'm gonna go through it.

675
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 6: So we as a coach got to remember sometimes those

676
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 6: guys don't look at it as much as we do,

677
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 6: and you got to just make sure you keep pointing

678
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: out the little finer things, the details of certain plays.

679
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the teachers that are getting ready with the

680
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: curriculum and having the correct tests and they're the ones

681
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: that are cramming for the final, trying to get ready

682
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Speaker 4: on Sunday.

683
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Speaker 6: Right, And that's exactly what Like, that's a great analogy

684
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 6: because it does happen that way. The only person that's

685
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 6: probably doing it the way the coaches are doing it

686
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 6: or the quarterbacks, sure, because they have to because they

687
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: are the coach on the team.

688
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: I'm on the field once they get there.

689
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Speaker 1: It's funny, you're probably used to it now, But how

690
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: was that? What was that transition like from that player

691
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Speaker 1: lifestyle to the coaching lifestyle.

692
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: It was a little change. But to me football, I

693
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 6: love football, so I've always loved football. I've always been

694
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Speaker 6: a student of the game and you know, a leader,

695
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: and it just was it was a natural transition for me.

696
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Speaker 6: And I actually loved it because I see it a

697
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: little different now and I but I also can see

698
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 6: somewhat of a player side too. One thing I don't

699
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: do as a coach. I never forget being on the

700
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: other side because I know the struggles of learning stuff.

701
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 6: You know, when you get guys that can't learn it

702
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 6: as fast as we want them to learn it, you

703
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 6: got to put some extra time in it. You got

704
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 6: to have you know, patience to get it. You know,

705
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 6: sometimes as a player, me as a as a former player,

706
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: guy might be struggling. You can't jump off his off

707
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 6: the ship on him and say you know he's he's done. No,

708
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 6: you got to you gotta stick behind him and give

709
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 6: him some encouragement to get him over the hump to

710
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: where he starts to play better. You know, you you

711
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 6: go through those things. And I'm probably a little bit

712
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 6: more compassionate about that because I've been there. I've been

713
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 6: there when my teammates or myself have not played well,

714
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Speaker 6: and I've had coaches that didn't jump off the ship

715
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: on me, and I had something that did. But as

716
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 6: I felt like myself as a coach, I got to

717
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: stay on the ship with him and help him. It's

718
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 6: going down, Let's plug this thing up, Let's get it

719
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: back up and sell. You know it's selling, and let's

720
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 6: get it going in the right direction. So that's how

721
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Speaker 6: I feel what.

722
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: Shows and how much they respect you and how much

723
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: they talk about you, and just how much they can

724
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Speaker 4: feel like you care. So I know you got to

725
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Speaker 4: go here soon. One quick question for me with the

726
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Speaker 4: upcoming time off and a little bit of r and R.

727
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Speaker 4: You got any plans at this point? What what does

728
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: R and R look like for you?

729
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 5: Golf?

730
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Speaker 3: Golf?

731
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Speaker 2: Nice golf.

732
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: I want to play some golf.

733
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Speaker 6: You know, I was once a four handicapped guy, you know,

734
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: now coaching make sure about a fourteen here, you know.

735
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 6: But I want to get back and play some golf.

736
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Speaker 6: And I've seeing hopefully this weather you know here, you know,

737
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 6: it's supposed to beautiful in Minnesota in the summertime. Hopefully

738
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 6: in my off days we won't get any rain. I

739
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 6: get a chance to play some golf and what else

740
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 6: I want to do some fishing.

741
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: Nice. Okay, let's see what happened.

742
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Speaker 2: He seems like you're in a good state for both

743
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: of those.

744
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 6: Yes, I am in a great state for both of those,

745
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 6: so I can't wait.

746
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much, coach McCardell. We

747
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: appreciate your time and congrats on the success of your room.

748
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you guys for having me.

749
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Speaker 1: Well, a big thank you to Keenan McCardell for he

750
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Speaker 1: had I think like thirty minutes in between things and

751
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: he was managed to give us a couple of minutes

752
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: of his time. Just such a cool guy to have

753
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: in the building. I love when Justin had said in

754
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: his presser like it was really important for me to

755
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: advocate for him to stay on staff.

756
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think he was a guy that I mean,

757
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: I knew him as a kid growing up and just

758
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: how dang good he was on that field. But to

759
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: see what he's been like as a coach and to

760
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: hear the reaction to not only players, staffers. He's a

761
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: guy that even for me walking down the hall at

762
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: any time he sees me, we're chit chatting it up.

763
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Speaker 4: And he is a guy like you said, you know,

764
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: he he kind of likes to be the he's got

765
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: the rules and everything, but at the same point, he's

766
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: always running around with the smile. And I just I

767
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: think as a mentor leader here in the building and

768
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: being able to not only like he said, be able

769
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: to remember what it was like being a player, but

770
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 4: then also having to put his coach's hat on and

771
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: be able to have that that is an invaluable thing,

772
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: I think, And why you're seeing a lot of teams

773
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: that are having success having former players as their coaches,

774
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: and I think why players love playing for those kind

775
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: of coaches, because the coaches look at him and say,

776
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: I remember what it was, like, I know what it is.

777
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: I can tell when you need to be pushed and

778
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: when we need to pull back and give you some

779
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: time to breathe. Keenan is one of those guys that

780
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: I think is an invaluable asset here in the building,

781
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 4: and anytime we get a chance to talk to him,

782
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: it's awesome because he's got so much football knowledge, but

783
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: at the same point, he's got so much other things

784
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: outside of football that he loves to talk about, and

785
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: he's a great person. I was glad we were able

786
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: to get him here as a guest.

787
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 7: Yeah.

788
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Speaker 1: I just really like that he you know, like he

789
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: comes to it from that player mentality of like, well

790
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: this is what I would do here. Yeah, That's what

791
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I think is really interesting because like sometimes that's just

792
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: what you need. Maybe maybe just a different way of

793
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: looking at it, maybe like Okay, you were really great,

794
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: what do I need to do to be great?

795
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

796
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: But even then, for him, you know, kind of the idea,

797
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: like you said, it's when I'm speaking, I'm not just

798
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: speaking to one person. I am and everyone understands, like

799
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 4: you better be paying attention. It's almost like the parent

800
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: that does the whole thing of you better take care

801
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: of your own house so I don't have to. And

802
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: he's very much of the mentality of if I'm speaking

803
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: in this room, I'm not just talking to one person.

804
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: You better be listening to otherwise if you miss out

805
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: on something, then that's on you. And I think the

806
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: one thing thing that that really came through and talking

807
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: to him is he's got a structure, and that structure

808
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: is set up and everybody knows what the deal is,

809
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: and sometimes when people don't fit within those structures, they

810
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: can be malcontents, they can cause problems in that room.

811
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: What it feels like to me, though, is that when

812
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: you hear the other people in those room talk, they

813
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: will defend him, saying he knows what he's talking about,

814
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: so we need to.

815
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: Get on board with the program.

816
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: And so again, having somebody like him be able to

817
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: go through and kind of parse through the way that

818
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: that works. It was great to hear him audibly say that,

819
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: because it just fills in the gaps of some of

820
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: the things that you hear from the guys. You're always

821
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: kind of wondering, what's the secret sauce for a coach

822
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: and for someone like him. To be able to have

823
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 4: that kind of mentorship and for the guys to really

824
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: advocate for him, I think is a huge, huge asset

825
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: for this team for sure.

826
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Speaker 1: I mean there's no doubt about that one. A lot

827
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: of former players on this coaching staff. Yeah, it could

828
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: be the fact that your head coach who was former player,

829
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: he might do he might like that.

830
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: But that's just it.

831
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: Like you know, you think about why people say even

832
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: in the off season they wanted to be here, and

833
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: you look at the surveys and everything else going on.

834
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: That's the that's part of the secrets as to why

835
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: people want to be here because the coaching staff and

836
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 4: those guys are listening to the players to try to

837
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: get the best.

838
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 5: Out of them.

839
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully they are listening during these manatorin media

840
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: camps no tas, we'll see a better picture of what

841
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: this team will look like when training camp rolls around

842
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: at the end of July. As Jay mentioned earlier in

843
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: the show, we've got a lot of really fun programming

844
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: during training camp, So make sure you check out that calendar,

845
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: get those tickets.

846
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: We want to see you here. It's going to be

847
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: a really, really fun time.

848
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: There's only about a month of availability, so you really

849
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: gotta you really gotta can't wait around.

850
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: You got to get in here.

851
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: My stupid stat for the day.

852
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it.

853
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: Eight weeks from Saturday is our first preseason game. What

854
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 4: eight weeks from Saturday is our.

855
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: First preseason game?

856
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: So all right, well, I'm going to go have an

857
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: anxiety attack at this corner than just kidding. That's a lot,

858
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that's soon, dang.

859
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: And that's just it is, like you know, this time

860
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: we sit there and say I can't wait for it

861
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 4: to get here. It's going to be here soon enough.

862
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: And again it's always great that I think the coaches

863
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 4: and players and even some of the staffers get a

864
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: chance to get away clear your head. At the same point,

865
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: we're always thinking about what the next thing is that's coming.

866
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: And like I said, we're just weeks away, you know,

867
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: a couple months away at this point from football officially

868
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: being here. So for all of us, you know, we

869
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: love the fact that people are tuning into this podcast

870
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: and all of our other content, and we want you

871
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: to be able to be here for the rest of

872
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: the summer. So we're going to do everything we can

873
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Speaker 4: to keep you up to date on what's happening on

874
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 4: a day by day basis.

875
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Speaker 1: Yes, stick with Vikings dot com, Vikings app. And that's

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