1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 2 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman. It is Draft week, folks, which 3 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: means it is one of the most exciting weekends in April. 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Chances are the NFL Draft will outrate the oscars. That's 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: how high the expectations are for the Draft. People might 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: remember that it was last year at this time that 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the Draft saved every sports fan who was in a deep, 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: deep pandemic depression waiting for something to watch. The NFL 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: had the Draft. It was a monumental hit. I expect 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: more of that this week. We got a big draft show. 11 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: We got Action Network senior analysts are draft expert Matthew Friedman. 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: We got former director of Player Personnel for the Buffalo 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Bills Jimmonis, who has joined us previously. And of course 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: we have my bff, my companion, Simon Hunter. What's going on, man, Dad. 15 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: It's good to be here, man. Yeah. I had a weekend. 16 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: I went to Vegas, survived it, made a bunch of 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: NFL Draft bets and after this show and on McKay 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: to myself for making all these bets. Because I went 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: down there, I was everything changes so fast, all these 20 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: bets I made on Friday. I'm here sitting on Tuesday. 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, so much has happened just 22 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: in three or four days. So I'm excited to dive 23 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: in now that we're here. Found as a professional better. 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: When did betting on the draft become something that you 25 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: found opportunity in versus it just being a novelty? Probably 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: the wrong guy, Like, dude, I bet more on the 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Oscars then I'm I did on the Draft. I want 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: huge on that Best Actress No man Land. That was 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: a big winner for me. Where the ladies and gentlemen, 30 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I've kinda be award winner of Francis McDorman. Yeah, I 31 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: don't know. The draft is weird where I usually I 32 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: do bet a decent amount, but this year I've been 33 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: a little different, where Like when I was in Vegas, 34 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm meeting with two guys. They're my quote unquote minions now, 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: so I have them, you know, doing a lot of 36 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: the run legwork for me and different stuff like that 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: and talking to different people for me, and a lot 38 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: of people are just so dumbfounded by this draft, by 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: this draft class and what's gonna happen, And it's like again, 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear what these guys are gonna say 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: about this draft, because I think what's so excited about 42 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: for me about this upcoming draft other than people being there, 43 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: which is great to see we have people, things are 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: getting back to normal. It's just how much speculation, how 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: much unknown there is going in this draft. That we 46 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: know what the top two picks are gonna be. We 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: think we know a number three is gonna be, but 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: there's so many little things that happened this year in 49 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the draft that it's gonna be really fun to see 50 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: what happens at four and that just sets off a 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: whole chain reaction for the whole draft. So I'm really 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: excited to dive into it. Well, look, I don't want 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to wait. I don't want to delay. Freedman obsesses over 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: this stuff. Monus, you know, knows this like the back 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: of his hand and now practices in the art of gambling. 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: This is a quarterback heavy draft. Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Uh justin fields mac Jones tray lance. It could be 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks taken off the board with the first four picks, 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: and everybody has a strong opinion today. By the way, 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: as the Action Network handle at Action Network, Key reminded 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: me is the four year anniversary of the Bears trading 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: up to get Mitch Trabisky, which is always uh, something 63 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: that can get someone fired when they remind me of that. 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: With time downfield, Watts Robinson intercepted again by Shakil Criffin. 65 00:03:52,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: It's intercepted Trapiskey over the middle Suckerriskey gets caught trying 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to force something in there. You did not have to 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: do that. You did not have to do that. You're 68 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: you're forcing something bonus. I want to go to you first, 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: especially with quarterbacks when you're handicapping the players. In terms 70 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: of floor and ceiling, break down the five quarterbacks. I 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: think Lawrence has been talked about enough. I think the ceiling, 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I think he still has a ceiling because I do 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: think he has some work to do. I think all 74 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: these guys do most quarterbacks do, you know, the generational 75 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: thing gets a little carried away. I think he is 76 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in his draft talent wise, um, but 77 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: he does have some holes in his game as far 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: as just consistency um. He does make some strange interceptions. 79 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: I felt like sometimes early in games that leads you 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: to you know, for a guy that's played a lot 81 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and you're counting on so I think some of that. 82 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: But for any quarterback, his his athleticism, arm strength, his 83 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: it's sky the limit. He'll be good enough to win 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: a super Bowl with. I think his his skill set 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: and his floor doesn't look too bad either. Well, when 86 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: you say he's still got a ceiling and then you 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: mentioned interceptions, uh and some things that you saw, what 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: is that? Is that a physical thing? Is that a 89 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: decision making thing? How do how do how do coaches 90 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: go about fixing that? When they get a player like that? 91 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: It's decision making for me with him. And that's why 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: you don't get too concerned about it, because you know 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: he's you know, obviously smart enough, capable enough. He'll clean 94 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: that up. Um. I think the ceiling is because, like 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: I think there's more to come, because he still takes 96 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: hits he shouldn't take, So there's some things he's gonna 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: have to really do to protect himself. And and just 98 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: some of those turnovers I thought were just a little 99 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: strange for a guy with his skill set. Um, just 100 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: strange decision making. For that's the only thing I was 101 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: confused on talent wise. No, there's nothing to worry about 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: for me. The next guy's fields. I like feels that 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: this is the guy I just don't understand confused about. 104 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to enough people. There's no issues with him. 105 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: As far as anything that you need to see it was. 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: You can see it on tape. Mentally, he's so intelligent 107 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: off the charts. He's blown coaches away, Um with his 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: you know X and O knowledge, his leadership, his toughness. 109 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: I will never understand how he's not the second or 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: third pick of this draft. But that's what we're gonna 111 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: find out soon. I can't figure it out, Um, then yeah, 112 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: go ahead. I just can't. I'm with you. I can't 113 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: figure it out before you get under the next players. 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the central point of the conversation. 115 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: He's proven it again and again at again at a 116 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: very high level. And when you talk about mac Jones 117 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and Freedman, I want you to way in here. You 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: talk about mac Jones, you talk about Trey Lance, you 119 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: talk about Zack Wilson, they're Mitch Truebiski to me. There 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: Carson wentz to me, there are guys who did it 121 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: for one year and had outsized success versus what the 122 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: expectations had been versus what their skill set had traditionally shown. 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: And Jim, you can back this up to quarterbacks at 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: the NFL level who tend to succeed, tend to have 125 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: played a lot in college football, and Justin Fields has 126 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: done that. Trevor Lawrence has done that. It makes no 127 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: sense to me that there is a narrative around Justin 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Fields that he should not be the number two pick. Freedman, 129 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: you've got a big board. You put it out there. 130 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Tell me I'm right. I agree with you, Chad, which 131 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: you know I hate doing you hate, but I absolutely 132 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: agree with you. And it's great to hear Jim say that, 133 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, because Jim has that NFL background, like he 134 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: has the scouting eye that I will never have. But 135 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. When we look at these quarterbacks and 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: they were in the two thousand and eighteen recruitment class, 137 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence was one, but one A was Justin Fields. Lawrence 138 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: was the number one pocket passer. Fields was the number 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: one duel threat quarterback. They both played multiple seasons at 140 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: big programs. Nothing Justin Fields did would make you think 141 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: that he can't do it in the NFL and and Jim, 142 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: I think you're right about the ceiling that Trevor Lawrence has. 143 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields has a ceiling that is right there. 144 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean almost as close. I mean he has the 145 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: best combination of passing ability and rushing ability out of 146 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: any quarterback in this class. And increasingly it's a passing 147 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: league in the NFL. But the quarterbacks who have success 148 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: are the guys who are able to move around and 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: buy time in the pocket and scramble when they need to, 150 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: and I think Justin Fields has the ability to do that. Chad, 151 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm with you. He's my number two. It's not even 152 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe he's not the number three pick. It's 153 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe he's not the number two pick. All right, Well, 154 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about Zack Wilson then, because it makes no 155 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: sense to me that Zack Wilson is getting as much 156 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: hype as he is Freedman. Where do you have him 157 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: on your big board and what are you seeing in 158 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: him that gets people excited? And what are you seeing 159 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: in him that makes you think he's not Justin Fields? Well, 160 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: he's the number four quarterback for me. I have Lance 161 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: ahead of him and With Lance, it's the the nation 162 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: of his youth and his rushing ability. You put those 163 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: two things together, and he he has some mechanical issues, 164 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: but I think he can clean those up. With Wilson, 165 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: he's got the arm. The decision making is somewhat suspect. 166 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: He's got this gun slinger mentality, and he has the 167 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: arm to make it pay off eight percent of the time. 168 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: But that's not gonna cut it in the NFL. And 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: he's he's a decent runner, but not a great runner. 170 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: And so you put all of that together, combined with 171 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: the competition he played subpart competition all of college, and 172 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: the fact that he really has only one year of 173 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: doing it well, and it was a weird season, like 174 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: the college football season, was not a representative season of 175 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: what we normally see in the college ranks. And so 176 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: you put all that together, and for me, that makes 177 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: him number four. All right, Uh Monas, where do you have? Uh, 178 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, Mac Jones, Trey Lance. I like Wilson three, 179 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: and then I would probably go Trey Lance four and 180 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Jones five. Um Wilson, I agree with that, Um Matt. 181 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: He's concerning um for a number of reasons too. Where 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: he came into the season. I know scalp that had 183 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: him rated as a free agent coming into this year, 184 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and they started seeing him throw the ball around against 185 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, whoever you can. You don't want to kill 186 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: him for competition, but he does have a talent, talented 187 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: physical skill set as far as moving around throwing the football. 188 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: It's obvious what he hasn't faced is pressure that offensive 189 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: line ify y U is outstanding, He's gonna have. The 190 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: game is gonna come really fast to him, which he 191 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: hasn't seen. You can't even you can't really duplicate, like 192 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields has seen what he's gonna see in the NFL. 193 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence has seen those types of the playing against Alabama, 194 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: playing against Ohio State, you're gonna you're playing against the NFL. 195 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: So I think Wilson does have a learning curve with that. 196 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: The interesting thing I did here is I heard some 197 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: questions gone his leadership ability UM as far as being 198 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: um just a total team guy. UM. And it's okay 199 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: to have an ego, but I've heard rumors even at 200 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: his pro day where he was kind of doing his 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: own thing, wasn't necessarily cheering on all the other teammates, 202 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: Who who's he hanging out with on the team. So 203 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: you know you've got to factor that in a little 204 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: bit with quarterbacks, not that they have to be best 205 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: friends with every player on the team, but that leadership 206 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: thing is big. I mean, can he handle what he's 207 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: about to be the face of a franchise? You said 208 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: something really interesting, Simon. I'm going to come to you 209 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: for a question a second before the season. Zach Wilson. 210 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: This this infuriates me. It infuriates me because it's Mr 211 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: Rubisky all over again. Zack Wilson before the season was 212 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: scouted rated as a free agent quarterback. He has a 213 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: big year against no competition behind a great offensive line. 214 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: So why are all of a sudden scouts to siding 215 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: everything they saw that was physical outweighs the advantages he 216 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: had that allowed him to showcase those physical gifts, which, 217 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: by the way, he had not been able to showcase 218 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: in any other year. So all of a sudden, he's 219 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: a superstar one year development behind an all world offensive 220 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: line against terrible, terrible competition, and this guy's gonna be 221 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: the second pick in the draft. Jim. That is idiocy. 222 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: It is idiocy. In the scot the science and art 223 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: of scouting. It makes no sense. It's because he blows 224 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: you away with when you just see him throw the 225 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: football and the way he can deliver it hims from 226 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: awkward angles, and he does make some special throws in games. 227 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: And when you hear that before the season, that's just 228 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: how some scouts may have seen him and whatever, they 229 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: didn't dig in hard enough. Maybe, but I agree with you, 230 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: it's maddening. Basically, chat if you're a GM right now 231 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: you can This is like you're listening to your area 232 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: scouts right now, where Matt's gonna tell you why why 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: he Trey Lance better than Wilson, And I can tell 234 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: you why I like Wilson better than Trey Lance. And 235 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: then we'll get Simon. He'll have it probably stacked differently 236 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: than we do. And then chat as you as a GM, 237 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: now you go ahead and take you know, then make 238 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: your pick. That's how maddening it can be being a 239 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: GM when all your scouts see quarterbacks differently. The whole 240 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: thing stupid. I gotta say, it's just stupid. I can't 241 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: believe this is how we're deciding the fate of teams. 242 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: No wonder, it's like such a stressful job being in 243 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: a personnel department. You are rolling the fucking guy every 244 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: single time. There is no question about it. I could 245 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: tell you if I told you those stories about why 246 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: we like Trabinsky and you want to talk about ceiling, 247 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: how many times that came up with him where Oh 248 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: my god, he's got all the physical skill set. He 249 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: really didn't have the physicals. He doesn't throw the ball 250 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: that naturally. If you watch him, he's not the most 251 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: accurate quarterback. So you look back on and say, why 252 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: did we force it? Why do people forced Trabinsky into this, 253 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: saying when my homes was the opposite, Like we talked 254 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: about where he made every throw, but it just didn't 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: look right, like that's not gonna work in the NFL. 256 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: But yet you saw it. You saw everything you needed 257 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: to see. And that's how I feel about Fields. I 258 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: don't understand we see it all the fields. I feel 259 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: like Fields should be compared to Lawrence more than you know, 260 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: than than these other guys. I just think it's too 261 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: And then then you're guessing, Simon, how much does this 262 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: remind you of just betting generally? Uh? First I just 263 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: want to say I'm a nice co host, chat I 264 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: let all these other guys talk after you have the 265 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: audacity to put Carson Wentz in the same sentence as Trabinsky, 266 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, the guy that was up for an m 267 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: d P got his team to be a number one seed. 268 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: I hate you, chat Um. Yeah. I think when it 269 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: comes to quarterbacks like he just broke it down. I 270 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: think these guys know what they're doing this since that 271 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: we all can throw in the film, we can we 272 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: can watch these guys. We can see what's talent above 273 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: these other people. I think we get lost is all 274 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: the other BSUD has talked about all these other voices 275 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: in the room. Everyone has opinions, everyone has agendas. This 276 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: QV class is just this pure perfect cosmics, like all 277 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: these things come together. Of these five guys, all of 278 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: them have strengths, they have flaws, different things that justin 279 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: field things like he was talking about. It does not 280 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: make sense. You're talking about a guy that's running a 281 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: four four that can throw and it's smart. I don't 282 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: get it. I will never understand why he's not the 283 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: number two thing. The episode, that thing came out and 284 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: it's like I get that he says he is under 285 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: control and it doesn't really affect him. That's just another 286 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like they this here, 287 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: little things like that a GM and medium like like, okay, well, 288 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: at least I know this guy over here doesn't have 289 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: to deal with that or whatever. So it is just 290 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: weird where we're at this point now where it's like, 291 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: what do we know about quarterbacks? We all know it's 292 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: all about the situation they're getting drafted into. Rosen Bust, 293 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: look at the situation he was drafted into. Is that 294 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: really his fault? Sam Donald Bust? Is that really his fault? What? 295 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: What are the Jets do to make him improve? We 296 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: see what the Bills did, We see what the up 297 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: to my raves there a little more. When teams surround 298 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: their QB and they dictate their team to the quarterback, 299 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: you can see that that's when the talent excels. So 300 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: just look in this draft class. I like all these guys, 301 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: but all of them have different weaknesses. So coming into it, 302 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand anything, but we're gonna get into it 303 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: here about the whole Mac Jones thing, I'm gonna lose 304 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a ton of money when Mac Jones go a third overall, 305 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: and I didn't believe it. I still don't believe it, 306 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: but after seeing his pressor, who the heck talks about 307 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: everyone dying by Sunday unless you're just prepping the fans 308 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: being like, listen, this is gonna hurt, but this is 309 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So I've been fighting it, I've been 310 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: ben against it. I honestly am finally giving into I 311 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: really do think Mac is actually gonna go with three 312 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: or Kyle Shanahan is the greatest acting coach we've ever seen, 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: all right, so obviously you're referring to Kyle Shanahan when 314 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: asked to the pressor yesterday, will Jimmy Garoppolo will be 315 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: on the restaurant Sunday? I can't guarantee that anybody in 316 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: the world will be alive Sunday, so I can't guarantee 317 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: who will be on our roster on Sunday. So that 318 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: goes for all of us, you know, not the shiniest 319 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: and brightest of of responses, but he's just not tipping 320 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: his hand. You say you are heavily heavily invested in 321 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones not being drafted number three as far as 322 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: bets go, Yeah, I basically it opened up fifteen and 323 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: a half and I was like, Okay, that's good value. 324 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: I could see him, you know, the Patriots taking him 325 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: or some team taking them from that tend of fifteen rage. 326 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: And then all the hype came out about you know, 327 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Chris Simms came out and said like he was the 328 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: first one I believe to say Mac was going to 329 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: go in the three spot. And I know he's close 330 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: to Shanahan, So of all the people that would know this, 331 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: it is Chris Simms, that guy is actually friends with Shanahan. 332 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: At the same time, I was like, you know, Shanhand 333 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: knows he's in the media. I think he might just 334 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: be trying to have people look one way. I was 335 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: going another way. So yeah, man, Once I moved to 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: three and a half over under at a plus number, 337 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: I was just like, in what world is the fifth 338 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: rated quarterback on almost everyone's big board going to be 339 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: the third pick overall? They gave up three first round 340 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: picks to get the Scott and people are comping him 341 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: to Kirk Cousins. Three first round picks for Kirk Cousins 342 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: and what world do we live in? So I'm heavily 343 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: heavily bet where I could win these other bets. I 344 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of different bets and stuff, like I've 345 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: been following that freem, the Action that bet this stuff. 346 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: But holy heck, man, if he goes third overall, Um, yeah, Chad, 347 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hurting about like ten to twelve thousand dollars. 348 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: Nice draft, by the way, very important. Follow everybody. Follow Freedman, 349 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: Follow Raybon, follow Simon, Action Network gaps see what their 350 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: picks are. Incredible, tremendous amount of coverage led by Matthew Freedman, 351 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: but also Chris Raybon, Samantha Privedi, Shawn Corner, the whole 352 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: entire Action Network team. Pretty amazing draft coverage. Uh, if 353 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: if you're the type of person who watches the draft, Freeman, 354 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: I want to start with you, what is the best 355 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: way to approach betting on it so the experience is 356 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: a little bit better. I should just say, uh, song 357 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: on the anti mac Jones train. I'm very much on 358 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: the mac Jones train, and so if mac Jones goes 359 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: number three, it doesn't matter if I lose all of 360 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: my other bets, like that will be pretty much what 361 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: makes the weekend for me. So I'm hoping that that happens. Um. 362 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: But I also have some trade Lance, and I should 363 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: say there's a chance to trade Lance. He's still very 364 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: much live to go number three. I don't think that's probable. 365 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: I think it is likely to be Matt Jones. And 366 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: so if you are someone who watches the draft and 367 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: you want to have more long shots, if that's the 368 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of type of uh, you know, sports speculation you 369 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: want to have on this event, then I think Lance 370 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: Jones to go number three. You could put some money 371 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: on that. It's not likely to happen. If it does happen, 372 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna be very happy. There's some other ways that 373 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: you can play the top ten. If you think of 374 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: it more as investing, then you'll probably want to be 375 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a little sharper, take some overs and unders, and again 376 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: look at what we have in the the Action Network app, 377 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: and we also have the Insiders tool at Action Labs 378 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: where we break down our edges for each of the 379 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: prop bets that are on the market. Uh. And so 380 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: that's more of the investing type of strategy. But if 381 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: you want to have fun, if you want it to 382 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: be more long shots, then there are definite ways to 383 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: play it, and you could do that by matching up 384 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: players with teams. Right, so you think, Okay, Davonte Smith, 385 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to go number six 386 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins, and you can bet that at some 387 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: pretty good plus money. That is the way to do 388 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: it if you want to speculate versus invest Alright, So, Jim, 389 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: if you are, you know, a couple of years removed 390 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: from being the player personnel, the retor for the Bills. 391 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Now you like to gamble, how are you approaching betting 392 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: on the draft? What? What? What do you expect this 393 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: experience to be like for you? This has been fun? 394 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: So I put some stuff in last week a little bit. Matt. 395 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: You're making me smile because I took Smith to go 396 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: top ten. That was one of my I feel like 397 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: somebody's got to take them. Just I know it's gonna 398 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: be hard with that weight. I mean, you are betting 399 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: against I mean he is you know, history says no, 400 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: but you know he was so so talented, and I 401 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: just feel like somebody will take a shot on that talent. 402 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: But this will be fun. I was telling Matt before 403 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: we started the show about um in gambling rooms. Trust 404 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: me on this, In every draft room in the NFL scouts. 405 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: How do you think we got through the draft? I 406 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: mean we're all looking at each other like, oh, I 407 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: know he's going in the second round. No he's not. 408 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: He stinks. And then that's how you start betting in 409 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: the draft room. It's a little smaller than probably what 410 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you right now there's some good gambling 411 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: going on in every draft room, so that it's always 412 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: been done. Now it's just you know, getting talked about more. 413 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: But in the inside there's some there's some knife betting 414 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: going on. Do you remember your biggest bet as the 415 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: U when you're in the scouting ranks. We just remember 416 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: just talking about Um. We didn't think the year the 417 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Bills took Eric would it Um. I think he was 418 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: the first center selected. I have to go back and 419 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: look to make sure I get this right. But Alex 420 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: Mac I thought, I think we bet that there would 421 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: only be one center taken in the first round, and 422 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: I think they ended up being too And this was 423 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: just there was like, there's no way anybody's gonna take 424 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: another center After Mac and Uh ended up. I think 425 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: Wood was at the end of the Bills took him, 426 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: and we were like, oh man, we looked at each 427 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: other like, I'm just putting out the money boom. So 428 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: that was one that I remember. I lost on Freeman. 429 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: You're shaking your head, Do you remember that draft? Is? 430 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Is that what you're is that what you're referencing? Yeah? Absolutely, 431 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: two centers in the first round. You hardly ever see that. 432 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: That was the two thousand nine draft, and both guys 433 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: ended up becoming very good player. And you had Max 434 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: Unger going in the second round who also became a 435 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: pro bowler. Like the top three centers going in the 436 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: top fifty picks, all of them actually painting out a 437 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: great class for centers. Uh, you are channeling your your 438 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: INTERML hyper right there for full on, full recollection of 439 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: every single center taken in the first fifty picks in 440 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: that draft and how they did in their career something else. So, Chad, 441 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: would you be happy with the Bears trading up for 442 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields if he's there at ten? Of course that's 443 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: a possibility. Keep getting keep getting hyped about Andy Dalton 444 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: videos that they're posting on Twitter and Instagram that then 445 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: immediately get made fun of by every single NFL meme 446 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: account that exists in social media. Like I don't. I don't. 447 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: I I honestly don't understand why the Bears would keep 448 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: keep Naggy and keep Ryan paced round for a year. 449 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: If the best they're gonna do is Andy Dalton. That's 450 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: not going to get them to the playoffs. It's not 451 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: going to get butts in the seat, it's not going 452 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: to make people want to sign up for season tickets, 453 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: it's not going to make the team excited. There's zero 454 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: upside in signing Andy Dalton other than the fact you've 455 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: got someone who can line up behind center. So I 456 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: think you have to leverage the future to get a 457 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: guy like Justin Fields who's actually proven. It's oh no, 458 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: I agree. And if he gets to nine or ten, 459 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: he probably will mind the Bears or the Broncos will 460 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: probably take you would think if they like Fields. But 461 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: if he gets to ten, I think the Bears make 462 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: a move. How could Justin Fields get to ten? Let's 463 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: play this out. Let's play at the top ten. Let's 464 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: play at the top ten. Freedman, go ahead. I want 465 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: to hear your top ten and tell me how Justin 466 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: Fields ends up dropping that fire. So one, I should 467 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: just say blanket statement. There's been a great study on 468 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: this done by Benjamin Robinson, who runs the site Grinding 469 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: the Monks. He did his study showing that quarterbacks fall 470 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: in the draft relative to where they are mocked, and 471 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: intuitively you could kind of sense that, you know, mock 472 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: drafts will hype these guys up and then quarterbacks will fall. 473 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: We saw it two years ago with Drew lock who 474 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: is regularly mocked in round one and went around too. 475 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Even Dwayne Haskins was expected to go in the top ten. 476 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: Felt the number fifteen and how it could break out 477 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: on this board. We know the top two guys, will 478 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: say Mac Jones goes number three, Kyle Pitts number four, 479 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase number five, and then you have the Dolphins 480 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: who are locked into a wide receiver. Let's so let's 481 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: say they go Davonte Smith number six. You have the 482 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Lions at number seven, and you have Piney Sewell, who 483 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: is the best offensive tackle in this class. He's a 484 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: guy they could build around for the next decade. He 485 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: could be their left tackle. So let's say they take 486 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: him at number seven. Rashawn Slater at number eight is 487 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: a guy who is right in that range. Or you 488 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: could have the Panthers go with J. C. Horne. They're 489 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: linked to both of those players. Let's say they go 490 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: over Shawn Slater number eight because they want a left tackle, 491 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: a franchise left tackle for their new quarterback, and Sam Donald. 492 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: And then at number nine you have the Broncos with 493 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks on the board, and let's say they prefer 494 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: trade Lance. That would be I think, a mistake, but 495 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: it could happen because other franchises ahead of them made 496 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: the exact same mistake, and that's how you get to 497 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Lance coming to the Cowboys at number ten. They're not 498 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna take him. They're looking for a cornerback. And now 499 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have the Giants sitting there 500 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: at number eleven with a GM who's never traded down, 501 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: who actually now the first time in his career might 502 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: trade down because at number eleven you have this quarterback 503 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: there who is one of the best in the class, 504 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: fallen out of the top ten. It's not as costly 505 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: for the Bears or the Patriots for some other team 506 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: to trade up to number eleven to get him. At 507 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: that point, it could really happen. Signon, you're shaking your 508 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: uh no, I mean nothing that like no one knows. 509 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Matt can tell yourself he loves drafts. I don't. 510 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: Off top of my head, I can't remember anyone that 511 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: gets the top five picks. Like we have consensus. Everyone's saying, 512 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: like the same kind of mocks with the top five 513 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: picks are gonna be. That's a guarantee that top five 514 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: picks are not going to be exactly what everyone's saying. 515 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: That's just how the draft goes. Like teams do weird stuff. 516 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: The Bears trying for Mr Travisky. That was weird. I 517 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: did not see that coming. So you know, that's what 518 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: I bet on. Like I'm betting the over Pits over 519 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: five and a half just because it's a good plus number, 520 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, I get it. This guy is next 521 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: level talent. Let's just go through the tight ends NFL 522 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: right now, they're the best waller. That guy was not 523 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: a top you know, three or four round pick. Travis Kelsey, 524 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: this guy was not a top pick. Kittle was not 525 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: a top pick. So I love Pits. But just on 526 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: the value scale, these gms, they have the same board 527 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: I have, like that that value compared to the quarterback 528 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: is so low. Atlanta's GM is a New GM. That 529 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: would be a very dumb pick to take bits there. 530 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: I get the upside for the team in the future, 531 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: but that's the thing. I think you need to trade 532 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: for assets because your team is terrible and you need 533 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: more players and you're in capell or you just take 534 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback because Matt Ryan is gonna be going in 535 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: two years. That's not one of those where it's like, yeah, 536 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: let's take a tight end that's incredible and can have 537 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: a thousand yards of ten touchdowns. It just doesn't make 538 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: any sense logically for the atlant and make that pick. 539 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: But I'd love to hear what Jim has to say 540 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: about this coming from that NFL Insider perspective. Sign in 541 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: the one area where I will push back and I 542 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: don't disagree with the idea of the valuation. I don't 543 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: think it makes a lot of sense to take a 544 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: tight end that high. Where I will push back is 545 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: that Atlanta has shown their hand and they've already indicated 546 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: they're not going to take a quarterback. Now. Given that 547 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to take a quarterback, whether they should 548 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: or shouldn't, that's the mindset that they have. They have 549 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. They feel that they can win now if 550 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: they add another pass catching talent in that offense. A 551 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: team is not going to trade up with Atlanta because 552 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: they know a quarterback is not going number four. They 553 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: know a quarterback isn't going number five, like Cincinnati is 554 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: very locked into that pick. So a team is not 555 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: going to trade up to number four when they could 556 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: look to trade up to number six and still have 557 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: a passer on the board. So like that's the one 558 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: area where I think, although they should look to trade, 559 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: and they probably want to, they've lost a lot of 560 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: their leverage so they will probably have to stay put. 561 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: And if they do that, I do think that they 562 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: think Pits is the pick. That's everything that they've vindicated. Jim, 563 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: what's your take on what Simon said about an NFL 564 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: GM looking at a tight end because this tight end 565 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: happens to be all world but not but that pick 566 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: not being close to the value that you would otherwise 567 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: get with other players, agree with Simon. It's hard. It's hard. 568 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: It's a hard swallow to take a tight end that high, 569 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: and Matt to your point, that's that's a really great point. 570 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: If you feel that strongly that Atlanta is not take 571 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: in a tight end. Then Yeah, then that makes a 572 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: lot of sense why nobody would want to go up 573 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: if they're not worried. I just pits. Pits is a 574 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: is being looked at as a receiver almost. It's almost 575 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: like they're they're treating him, which he's not. He's gonna 576 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: play tight end, but they're treating him like a number 577 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: one wide out and it seems you're gonna have to 578 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: to get the value out of him if you're taking 579 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: him that high. How are you going to take a 580 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: guy that high that is so dependent on the court 581 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: people getting him the ball? And that's that's a big 582 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: hard swallow if you're a GM to take a tight 583 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: end that high. And I love every we all know 584 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Pitts is legit talent wise, it's not that, it's the 585 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: are you going to get the value out of that guy? 586 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: So let me pick a personal that you just said, 587 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: which also speaks to the idiocy of this scouting science. 588 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: They're grading him as a receiver. That's how they're justifying 589 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: taking him at number four. This whole game is justification. 590 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: How can we justify making this decision that we know 591 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: we shouldn't make, but we feel like there could be 592 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: glory on the other side in the one and one 593 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: thousand chants. You know, the recent Moneyball was a brilliant 594 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: book in a brilliant movie, and I just watched it 595 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: the other night with one of my kids. It's because 596 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: it took the emotion out of the decision making. It 597 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: took these the art. He's got a good body. He 598 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: can throw, make throws from you know, across the field 599 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: that nobody else can make. All these things that get 600 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: guys excited about talent. You left the best one out 601 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: that when he guys you see his girlfriend, you sell ugly. 602 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: His girlfriend is no confidence. Exactly right. Okay, let's move 603 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: on at DHO Do you like? I like Perez. He's 604 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: got a classic swings, real clean stroke. I don't know 605 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: an ugly girlfriend's that ugly girlfriend means no confidence? Okay, 606 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: And so like all of these things. As much as 607 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: we think analytics and data is driving these decision and 608 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: it's still not. And it's it's it's costing teams millions, 609 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: and the amount of money spent on these teams, the 610 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: amount of money at stake to build these teams, the 611 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: amount of money is stake if you win the fact 612 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: there's anything less than near perfect unanimity on how evaluations 613 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: are done because there is one way to analyze the 614 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: data is astonishing to me. Think about Miami, everybody, So, 615 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: like you said, Matt, everybody's assuming Miami is going to 616 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: take a wide out right, Well, what if two is 617 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: not the guy? What if t is? Like, Well, so 618 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: you're investing to help your franchise quarterback that you already 619 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: invested in. But are you sure that to show you 620 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: anything to make you feel good about him? This year? 621 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: I watched him every game. I wouldn't I couldn't come 622 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: away saying one good thing about two other than he 623 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: is tough and he's battling back from injury. And I 624 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: don't want to write him off yet, but he was 625 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: He didn't show much to build around this year. So 626 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: and you already have you have a tight end and 627 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: receiver there, so gonna give him more weapons. But if 628 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: two is not good enough, that picks that Pike wasted. Uh. 629 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: The other thing that is interesting to me Davante Smith's weight. Boy, 630 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: that's become a stupid fucking conversation. You're telling me that 631 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: a guy who showed it on the field, who was 632 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: transcendent on the field, who can make incredible cage. It 633 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: catches who can run away from people, who can get 634 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: physical and traffic. Because he weighs one seventy now he's 635 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to add on that weight to 636 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: re kill is. And he's five ten, and he's faster 637 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: than everybody and does everything that's asked of him. It's like, 638 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? Why are we trying 639 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: to talk ourselves out of good decisions because you think 640 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: you can be smarter by, like, by making a different decision. Jim, 641 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm disgusted by your brethren. It's maddening. It is maddening. 642 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: It is that you could talk to yourself. I always 643 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: tell people, give me a player. It's like, and you 644 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of compaired to gambling. I can tell you why 645 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: to take any team any night. I could probably I 646 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: could talk myself into any team, just like you can 647 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: talk yourself into and out of a player. You really can. 648 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: You can drive yourself crazy. I can talk to you 649 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: into tray Lands. I can talk to you out of him. 650 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: I really believe that. And if I'm with him, if 651 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: there wasn't such a quarterback heavy draft, I do think 652 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: you'd be a top ten pick because everything you hear 653 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: is that he's a quarterback that plays by receiver, like 654 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: he's an actual football savant where he'll come back to 655 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: the coaches he'll be like, tell them exactly how the 656 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: defense is playing him and how they're lining up and 657 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: how they can beat that. So if you just watch 658 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: the footage of him, like we talked about earlier, like 659 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: I think it was a month ago, because I was 660 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: just saying, like I couldn't believe it. There's gonna drop 661 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: by the top ten, and I get it now like 662 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: that all the weight issues is like workout wasn't the best, YadA, YadA, YadA. 663 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: I just see a guy that is truly he's what 664 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: you look for in a football player. He's super smart, 665 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: really hard working, and he can score. He is that 666 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: natural ability to somehow fund the end zone. So we're 667 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: gonna break it all down here. But these why receivers, 668 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: you really can't go wrong with any of them. But 669 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: he's just my favorite because I feel like I know 670 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm getting. I'm getting a lot number two 671 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: that has the upside of a consistent number one. So 672 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: I do love him, but I can see him now 673 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: slipping out the top ten because what you just said, 674 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: the whole weight thing. People are really harping on the weight. 675 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Freeman, what do you think of that? Devonte Smith? 676 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't have issues with the weight. Uh. What we've 677 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: seen is that he's he's comfortable in some way. And Jim, 678 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: I like your thoughts on on these comps. It's it's 679 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: hard to come up with comps with him because there 680 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: haven't been that many guys in the NFL with his 681 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: size um and his his athleticism. He's not like a 682 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: great athlete, but I think he's like Isaac Bruce or 683 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: a little bit like Chad Johnson, and that he's smaller. 684 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't win with his size. He's not a blazing athlete, 685 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: but he's just a really good all around football player, 686 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: specifically with his route running. Uh and and Simon mentioned 687 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: like his intelligence as well, his ability to see angles 688 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: to know where to go versus defenses on the field. 689 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Uh And, So I think he could have NFL success 690 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: despite his size and despite his will say average athleticism. 691 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: I think he could still have success. The drawbacks for me, 692 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: and this is more like a numbers based perspective versus 693 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: a football perspective. It's a little bit disconcerting that he 694 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: didn't break out until his junior season. And normally we 695 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: see guys when they go in the first round. The 696 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: guys who tend to do well in the NFL are 697 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: the guys who go early to the NFL, the guys 698 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: who leave as redshirt sophomores or juniors. The guys who 699 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: go in the first round but go as seniors, typically 700 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: they don't go a year early because they weren't going 701 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: to be first rounders. They were probably going to be 702 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: second or third rounders, and they had to stay another 703 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: year in order to improve their draft stock. And so 704 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: he might go in the first round now, but I 705 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: think it's it's troubling that he could have gone to 706 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: the NFL last year, but he didn't be because he 707 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be drafted ahead of Jerry Judy, and 708 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to be drafted ahead of Henry Ruggs. 709 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: Like NFL evaluators last year looked at him and even 710 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: though he was the most productive guy on that team 711 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: last year, they still thought he's not as good as 712 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: these other two guys. That is a little bit more 713 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: of a red flag than his size. Yeah, it's a 714 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: hard pick in the top ten because you're battling the 715 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: history of these we I just had a little chart 716 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: up here that I was looking at that we my 717 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: friends and I were talking about last week with receivers 718 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: under one seventy, the history is awful. They don't make it. 719 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that he does have that 720 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to my friends are still scouting in the NFL. 721 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: He has elite toughness like that that that you can't 722 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: find and those guys do seem to make it, and 723 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: the like those receivers that had that kind of toughness, 724 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: because not every receiver has that. Like I just I'm 725 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna do everything. I don't care. He has that, so 726 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: you're as a if you're drafting him, you feel good 727 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: that he is going to make it. How great will be, 728 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: we'll see. But to take him in the top ten 729 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: with that weight, it's hard. And Chad, this goes back 730 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: to everything you keep saying. It's maddening. So all right, 731 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: let's talk about some best bets. Let's give people something actionable. 732 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: Jim Monas from a director of player personnel for the 733 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, go first, give me your best bets. For 734 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: draft night. My two that I put in that I 735 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: got decent odds that were certain being the first corner. Um. 736 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: I do feel like he's going to be the first 737 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: corner because he's just a little not that not that 738 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: Horn isn't valuable, but certain is clean, Like he's clean 739 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: all the way across the board. Horn has some there's 740 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: some issues not off the field, but he does have 741 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: some things that might concern some teams. Here we go 742 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: again with talking yourself out a guys. But it certain 743 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: is clean, nothing to worry about. So I feel like 744 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: he'll be the first corner. I think that Um, I 745 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: got one best or first d lineman, the Michigan Pay. 746 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: I took him as the first the lineman drafted over 747 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: Phillips from Miami only because once again, pay is clean. 748 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: Phillips has a concussion history and concussion scare teams away, 749 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: so I thought there was some value there. Um, and 750 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: I think it's worth throwing something on field, you know, 751 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: going to going third. I guess that's the I'm hoping. 752 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: These teams are evaluating talent and the fourty niners are 753 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: just sitting there and they picked fields. But you know, 754 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: I don't know how he could last. So I threw 755 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,959 Speaker 1: a little something on him, even though it looks bad now, 756 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: I just thil threw it down there. Um, there was 757 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: one more that I did. Oh, Elijah Moore, the receiver 758 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: from Mississippi to go in the top thirty two. I 759 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: put him in a week ago and got good odds 760 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: at that that those odds have changed drastically, so I 761 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: thought that was a good play. Let me ask you 762 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: a question. So you're talking about Quitty pay h for 763 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: Michigan as a defenive lineman, so first defensive lineman picked 764 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: and J C. Horne you were comparing him to Patrick's retent. Yeah, 765 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: you use the phrase these guys are clean clean in 766 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: scouting parlance. What does that mean? Injuries and character issues? 767 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: You're not worried about anything. So when you hear guys 768 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: say they're clean, that is a great That is a 769 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: huge release, especially picking that high. Got it. That's interesting. 770 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: That's good terminology right there. That's what they call the 771 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: inside dope freeman. Give me your best bets, all right, 772 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: I've got a few. Some of them aren't very sexy. 773 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: I'll just say so to two of them aren't sexy. 774 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: One of them I think it's a little sexier, one 775 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: of the ones that isn't sexy. Travon Morrig as the 776 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: number one safety off the board, you have to pay 777 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: around minus four hundred five hundred juice on this, so 778 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: that's a lot. That said, I think he's a lock 779 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: to be the number one safety. Uh. He's going routinely 780 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: in mock drafts and on big boards. You look at 781 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: he's going in the twenties and thirties. The two guys 782 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: who could maybe challenge him, Richie Grant and Javan Holland, 783 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: they're going routinely in the forties and fifties. Like the 784 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: you have Jamaar Chase in this class, and the edge 785 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: that he has over other wide receivers, Like, I think 786 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: that's the edge that Trevon Moriy has over these other safeties. 787 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: This line should be minus a thousand, so to be 788 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: able to get it at minus four hundred, you know, 789 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: you're still laying a lot of juice. But I think 790 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of value there. He's like or greater 791 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: to be the number one safety in this class. I'm 792 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: yet to see a mock draft that has a safety 793 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: ahead of Mori, So I love him as the number 794 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: one safety in this class. Another one. Again, it's not sexy. 795 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: You have to put a lot of juice on it, 796 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: but under five and a half quarterbacks, like, come on, 797 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: they're going to be five in this class, but there 798 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: will not be a sixth. There absolutely will not be 799 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: a six quarterback going in round one. It just will 800 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: not happen. It's happened once in NFL history. I bet 801 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: Jim could could say what it was. It was the 802 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: fantastic three all time great quarterback class where you have 803 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: multiple Hall of famers Elway, Marino, Jim Kelly. Right, this 804 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: is not that class. There are five guys in it. 805 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: They're going in round one. But let me put it 806 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: this way. It's likelier that there are four guys in 807 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: round one and one of them slips all the way out, 808 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: then that there will be a six guy that goes 809 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 1: in the first round. There just is not a number 810 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: six quarterback in this class who is getting anything close 811 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: to the kind of hype that you see a guy 812 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: have before he goes into Round one. I think this 813 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: is like a one percent chance, and even that feels 814 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: high of a six quarterback going in round one. So 815 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: you bet this at minus four hundred minus five hundred, 816 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: bet it to minus two thousand, like if you're not 817 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: going to have to, but like that is where this 818 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: number should be. And then the sexier one, the one 819 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: at plus money. If you look at Washington, they have 820 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: a couple of pretty big needs. They could go with 821 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: the tackle, they could go with a wide receiver, and 822 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: on defense, they could go with a linebacker in the 823 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: first round. Now, out of the sharp mocks I look at, 824 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: and over half of them they're going with a linebacker. 825 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: But right now you can bet at plus two hundred 826 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: for them to go with a defensive player. And I 827 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of the books are just thinking that 828 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: this is an offensive tackle spot right here. But this class, 829 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: there's not much of a difference between the number four 830 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: offensive tackle and the number seven offensive tackle. So Washington 831 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: could easily wait till the second round to get an 832 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: offensive tackle and off ball linebacker. And number nineteen like 833 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: that is the wheelhouse for like three linebackers who could 834 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: go there, and that could be someone who immediately steps 835 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: in and as a starter on day one for their defense. 836 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: So at plus two hundred, this should be a coin flip. 837 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: And if you want to be even a little bit bolder, 838 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: you could specifically bet at plus three hundred for them 839 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: to take a linebacker. And so whether you go plus 840 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: two hundred plus three hundred either one of those, I 841 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: think there's value there. This should be a coin flip 842 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: and you're getting great plus money. Thank God, you gave 843 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: us something that actually didn't cost us, you know, a 844 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to make a bet. Simon, Okay, before I 845 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: come to you, Before I come to you, can you 846 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: name the other three quarterbacks chosen in the first round 847 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: in the draft? Freedman just named Jim Kelly, John ol A, 848 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: and Dan Marino. Can you name the other three? M 849 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: M Now, the only one I can kind of think 850 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,479 Speaker 1: of as the Jets quarterback because I watched NFL films 851 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: the other day. It was like one of the greatest 852 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: games ever, was like the Jets guy playing against Marino 853 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: um talking about Ken O'Brien. Ken O'Brien. Yes, you also 854 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: could have chosen Tony Easton. Never got that Todd black 855 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: led black Ledge. What a magical draft that was it. 856 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: That's the That's another thing, like the fact that Marina 857 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: you look at that draft, how he felt. It's that 858 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: this whole thing is a crapshoot um, you just want 859 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears did not need a quarterback in the 860 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: eighty three draft because the year before they had drafted 861 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: Jim nick Mahon, a punky QB from Bringham Young University. 862 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: He's in the Dippers Hall of Fame. He's one of 863 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 1: our favorite dippers. Give me your best bets. So again, 864 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: I do weird stuff. I'm all about crazy value and 865 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: looking to be like if I go three for ten, 866 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: I made a profit bet in the draft because I 867 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 1: just like to bet on weird stuff to happen. So 868 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: right now you can get fifty one that Fields or 869 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: Trey Lance will be the second pick overall. So I 870 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: know it's locked in. I know everyone's saying that Jets 871 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: are locked in, but again, do we really know, Like 872 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: they had the same tape I have. This kid played 873 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: for three years at b o i U. He averaged 874 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: his first sure I think he had thirteen touchdown slimy receptions. 875 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: His second year at fifteen touchdowns tener receptions. So again, 876 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: I know he made a huge jump that was pretty amazing, 877 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: But I still think there's an outside chance something crazy 878 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: he happens here. It picks two and three um people 879 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: have locked in right now that Chase is going to 880 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: be the fifth pick for the Bengals. I'm hoping the 881 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: Bengals gym smarter than that. I think he can look 882 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: at the history and see that how do teams win 883 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowls? They went on the d line, that went 884 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 1: on the old line. I have a quarterback coming off 885 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: a terrible knee injury. I mean, everyone saw this guy's 886 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: star online. Is his knee got jacked up? I have 887 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: no idea if Joe Bro's gonna be good or not 888 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: because he was under pressure constantly last year. And we 889 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: all know the David Carr. We all talked about David 890 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: Carr Andrew Luck. These guys that get hit earlier in 891 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: their careers, it just ruins their career. So I'm praying 892 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals take an old lineman at the fifth pick. 893 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: And right now, you can get plus two hundred plus 894 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: two fiftiets from books that they have to know alignment. 895 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: So that's another bet I really like right now. And 896 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: I already talked about pits over five and a half. 897 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: You can get that some books at plus two fifty now. 898 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: So those are a couple of things on betting. Things 899 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,959 Speaker 1: are gonna happen. So I'm betting a crazy good value 900 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: that they're gonna happen that way. Uh. I like your 901 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: fifty one pick, um. I think that's really interesting. Yeah, 902 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: the odds have gotten better like I bet it earlier, 903 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: and then all this Fields have just been dropped. Like again, 904 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose so much money when Matt goes three. 905 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: But Fields has just been dropping his odds, Like I 906 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: think he's over under now. It's like nine and a 907 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: half at some books. So if you might be able 908 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: to keep waiting and that Fields will get better odds 909 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: to be picked the second pick of wrong, they have 910 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: to gonna take it again because like I said, it's 911 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: up to fifty to one now. So I'm just betting 912 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: on that these gms have kept things in tight. I 913 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean he can talk about personal experience. 914 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: You never know when the owner is just gonna walk 915 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: in the war room and say I want to take Haskins. 916 00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't care what he wants to do. And the 917 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: like the Washing football team and they took Askins. He's 918 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: off the team in two years. So you never know 919 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: the owners. And that's why I like betting. I like 920 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: to bet on weird things happening, because people wake up 921 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: draft day morning and it gets weird. I mean, like 922 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: another one, the Browns owner having a homeless man tell 923 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: him to take Johnny Manzel. The list goes on and on. 924 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: So I'm again, I'm betting on weird things to happen. 925 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: Jim did the owner of the Bills at any point 926 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: coming to your draft room and say we've got to 927 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: take this guy. He wishes he did. He still wishes 928 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: he did every night. Probably he told us who to take. 929 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: We just didn't listen. He did. He tell you to 930 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: take Mahomes. Yeah, well I bet you we should have 931 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: that week we all do. We all look well McDermott. 932 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: McDermott is still there, so that's good. I mean, but 933 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: he had a chance to say yes to we all did. 934 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: But we talked about that before we Hey, the old 935 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: NFL miss he should have been the first take of 936 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: the draft. So and I agree, and we all simon 937 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: that is so true. I love that the Jet It's 938 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: almost too scary how they've just placed Wilson onto the 939 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: Jets from the start, but the Jets haven't come out 940 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: and say anything. Now, you know, sometimes you know you 941 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: wish it. You know you'd love to see the Jet. 942 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: I would love to see the Jets take field at two. 943 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm with you, at that value, why not. It's like 944 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: betting on these golfers. Who really knows he's gonna win 945 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: these golferm same thing here. It's like at that value 946 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: you have to hit it once every fifty years and 947 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: you're paid out. So I'm liking the value here. That's 948 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: something weird is gonna happen, because, like you just said, 949 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: the Jets have said nothing, no little weird inkling either. 950 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: So it's been very interesting how quiet they have been, 951 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: all right. Jim Monus for a player, personnel director for 952 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, friend of the podcast turned professional better 953 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: Matthew Friedman, friend of No One but uh also also 954 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: an excellent, excellent prognosticator where it comes to the draft. 955 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, my BFF, co host of the Favorite podcast, 956 00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: Thank you all very much for your in formed conversation. 957 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: I am Schad Millman. This has been the favorites from 958 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: the Volume podcast network. The Volume is now on YouTube. 959 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: Will be uploading new episodes and clips daily, including some 960 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: past interviews and moments from all of our shows. 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