1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: All right, it's another episode of splash It Territory. Super 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: excited about my guest today. Six time All Star Giant 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Legend number retired number twenty two. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Will the Thrill Clark joins the show Thrill. What's going on? 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: Man? 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on FP. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Thanks for inviting me. I appreciate it. We've been talking 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: about this. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 4: For a little while and now we're able to sit 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: here and chat a little bit. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, unlike Burnsy's podcast, we can't swear on yours. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: Put it this way. I'm not when to keep it clean. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: I know when to get a little crazy. Don't worry 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: about it. 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: I wish we could, but it's just kind of the 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: whole way those things work. So I want to talk 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: about you for a second, like what was your biggest hit? 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: Because I have my opinions of. 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: It, and I know in nineteen eighty nine you lost 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: the batting title to Tony Gwinn on the last day 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: of the season. I know about your first at bat 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: on opening Day going deep off Nolan Ryan, whether it 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: was I don't know, the base hit off Mitch Williams 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: in Game five or the home run off Greg Maddox. 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: When you read his lips like, what was your biggest 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: hit as a Giant? 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 4: No, you mentioned him right there, you know, first and foremost. 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: I mean, how can you not you know, your first 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: at bat in the major leagues and you take Nolan 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: Ryan deep. That has to be like, you know, a 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 4: story book beginning to your career. So that there's one 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: right there, and then the other one is you know, 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: all of us, you know, when we were kids, you know, 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: growing up in the backyard, we were you know, bottom 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: of a nine, two ouch, bases loaded, you know, and 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: then you know, I'm able to live that at Candlestick 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 4: and get the base hit off of Mitch Williams and 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: put us in the World Series in nineteen eighty nine. 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: Take me through that at bat though, that guy, I mean, 40 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: he was effectively wild. 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: You didn't know where the ball was coming. 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: He was all elbows and knee caps, and you're just 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: so locked in that you get something right down the middle, 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: you go back up to the middle. 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: It grew right back up the middle with it. Were 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: you sitting on it? 47 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: Like? 48 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: How did you approach that? At bad? 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: It seems to me like in your career, the bigger 50 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: the situation was, the better Will Clark was. 51 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 52 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you and I have talked about it in 53 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: the past, but you know, in those big, huge situations, 54 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. I don't know whether 55 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: I was concentrating so much or or you know, I 56 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: had my breathing under control. 57 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: But I mean I was. 58 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: Real relaxed, real calm in those kinds of situations. And so, uh, 59 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: you know, here comes Mitch Williamspace is loaded bottom bottom 60 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 4: of the eighth, two outs, and you know, this is 61 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: the first time I'm facing him in the series. 62 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: Although I know I was going to face him, it 63 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: was just a question to win. 64 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I go up there to Dusty Baker, 65 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 4: who was my hitting instructor at the time, and I go, 66 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: what you think and he goes, He goes, look, hey, Colin, 67 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: a wild thing, he said. But but he's got better 68 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: control than what everybody thinks. So he said, if I 69 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: was you, i'd look away. I said, That's what I 70 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: was thinking too. So I went back up to the 71 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: plate and I'm looking fastball away and I mean the 72 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: first pitch he just painted on me, you know, one 73 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: of those things. 74 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't do anything with it, so I let it go. 75 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: Next pitch was a fastball, got a little bit more 76 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: of the plate, and I filed it straight back. So 77 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: I knew my timing was okay. But now I'm in 78 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: the whole two. And Vince Gully was doing the broadcast 79 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: at the time, and he said, you know, in these 80 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: kind of situations, it's hard to breathe and all that, 81 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: and there there's a video of me standing at the 82 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: plate going and just taking a big, huge, deep breath, 83 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: and I told myself, I'm like, I'm gonna put my 84 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: nose in here, and this is going to be a 85 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: battle all the way through. And so I don't know 86 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: what pitch it was. It might have been the third 87 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: or fourth pitch. He threw me a slider and it 88 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: was like way outside, and you know, I stepped out 89 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: the battles box and I was thinking, he probably didn't 90 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: want to throw that one again because he doesn't want 91 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: to have a wild pitch and a run come in 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: from third. So you know, I was still sitting there, 93 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: you know, two year, one, two, whatever it was at 94 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: the time. You know, you get you gotta look fastball 95 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: and adjust everything else anyway, and he threw me a 96 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: high fastball, and. 97 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: Man, I had the good timing on it. I filed 98 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: it straight back and I was like. 99 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: Ooh, you know one of those numbers is like, oh, 100 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: all I gotta do is get on top of that one. 101 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: And the next pitch was the same high fastball, and 102 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: I was able to get my hands on top of 103 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: it a little bit more and when I hit it, 104 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: believe it or not, the ball was hitted I mean 105 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: directly at second base and I'm I'm running down the 106 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: first I'm like, don't hit the bag. Don't hit the bag, 107 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: you know, because you don't want the ball or ricochet 108 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: or whatever. And it wound up missing the bag. Candy 109 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: Malnano Brett Butler scores. Robbie Thompson actually got hung up 110 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: in between second and third and he kind of like 111 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: juked Jerome Walton who was in the outfield. 112 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: And then Robbie went to the third. 113 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: And Podna candle stick was rocking. I'm talking about sixty 114 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 4: two thousand going crazy. I mean, I still I still 115 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: think about that till this day. And then hair on 116 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: the back of my neck stands up. 117 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: I could I could picture you at first base, and 118 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I can also see Robbie Thompson in a half squad 119 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: at third, next to Wendell Kim given giving you the 120 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: point and at you giving you that. 121 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, now they'll say he was at third. He was 122 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: over there with him. 123 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: And I had Wendell Kim at first with me, and 124 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: Wendell was my minor league manager in Fresno. And you know, 125 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: after I got through pointing everybody in the dugout basically 126 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 4: saying that's for you guys, you know, Wendell was right 127 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: there and I grabbed him. I gave him a big 128 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: bear hug, probably one of the biggest ones I've ever 129 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: given anybody. 130 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Wendell's about five foot three and you're worthing him in 131 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the in the bear hug. You and I have shared 132 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: this story before, but I think Giants fans will like it. 133 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm a switch hitter because of Will Clark, and I 134 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: told I told you this before. Where my buddies and 135 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: I used to play wiffleball every night in fulsom California 136 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: growing up, and I would hit right handed with a 137 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: yellow bat and I would get to legion and the 138 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: bat felt like it was way heavy, so I started 139 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: hitting left handed not to mess up my right handed swing. 140 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: You were my favorite Giant. 141 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: I think every kid growing up in this area and 142 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: maybe in the South too, imitated Will Clark. 143 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: So I would get up there and do the whole 144 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: thing with my sleeves. 145 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 146 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Like, and I started hitting bombs and whiffle ball left handed. 147 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: So my buddies were like, you should try this in legion. 148 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: And I asked my manager, my coach at the time, 149 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, try it. 150 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: And I got two hits my first day. 151 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm seventeen years old, well, going to my senior year 152 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: in high school, and I said, I'm gonna switch hit. 153 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: So like we've talked about this, not in a broadcast before, 154 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: but like, you're the reason I became a switch hitter. 155 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that, and I'm glad you Glad you 156 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: switched hitting. You got a bunch of base hits on 157 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: both sides of the plate, So congrats man, that's awesome. 158 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's surreal for me as a kid growing up 159 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: in a Will Clark fan that I have an autographed 160 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Olympic baseball when you were on Team USA, you. 161 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: Were, Yeah, it was it was hard to track down. 162 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: You guys played a game before the Giants at Candlestick 163 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and I had caught a foul ball and you were 164 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: walking off the field and I flipped it to you 165 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: signed it for me, So I still have the nineteen 166 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: eighty four. 167 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: The seams on that ball are red and blue entertaining. 168 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're red and blue, and uh, you know 169 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: they were real colorful. And then not only that too, 170 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: when they were when they were in the air coming 171 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: at you. You could see those scenes pretty good. So 172 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: it was a good thing. Yeah. 173 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I just saw the video of you getting four hits 174 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and I think maybe two home runs at Dodger Stadium. 175 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was a good team. 176 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: And then uh, and then you know, I had a 177 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: pretty damn good game against Italy two. I went three 178 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: for four with a bomb that day too, So yeah, 179 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: I mean being on the Olympic team was unbelievable. And 180 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: you know, when you run out there and you got 181 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: you know, Mississippi State or you know, LSU, whatever it 182 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: might be on your chest and you're representing your school. 183 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: You know, that's that's cool, and you know, you want 184 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: to get to the College World Series and all that. 185 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: But when you run out there and you got USA 186 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: across your chest and everybody is screaming and yelling and 187 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: going USA and we're in Dodger Stadium. I mean, good 188 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: Lord al Money. It was just surreal how emotional that 189 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: was for a lot of people, And for me, I 190 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: was like, that helped me up my game a little bit. 191 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did look weird with a double ear flap 192 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: helmet on him. 193 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: That was college dude back in the day. 194 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: That was before all of these guys got the single 195 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: ear flap. 196 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Man. 197 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: We had. We had two ear flaps. 198 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: So you know, when you put it this way, when 199 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: you slam the helmet down on the ground, it broke 200 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: pretty good too. 201 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: You and I never did that, Yeah, no, we never 202 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: did that. The Giants. 203 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: The Giants give away a golden helmet at the end 204 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: of the year to the guy who breaks the most 205 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: helmets during the season. 206 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: Brad the clubhouse kid, the guy he's. 207 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: Not a kid. 208 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: They have this little thing going on, who breaks the 209 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: most helmets. I'm guessing you and I would have won 210 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: that title. 211 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: I'd have definitely won it early in my career. 212 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: Later in my career. 213 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: I was fine, no problems early in my career. 214 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Right, fanboy from fpter Will Clark, that would get a 215 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: little Giants baseball. Uh, have you ever had a slow 216 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: start to a season, we're out of the gate. Maybe 217 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: you were playing well, the team wasn't playing well, because 218 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm just astounded by the overreaction by all of Giants 219 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: fans and maybe on sports talk radio or whatever it is. 220 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm going zero to three against a really good Yankee 221 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: team with some really good pitching. 222 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, you know, I was there, I 223 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: saw you for opening Day and all that. You know, 224 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: they you know, sometimes you run into a buzzsaw and uh, 225 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: you know, I mean you got a tippy cap. I 226 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: mean Max Freed and then I think the kid's name 227 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 4: schlitt Schlittler, or the think is his name? I mean 228 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: those two games, I mean they didn't make maybe a 229 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: handful of mistakes. So I mean you got a tippy 230 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: cap to the other team. And I tell this all 231 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: the time I go. 232 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: You do know that the guys on the other. 233 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: Side of the field are professionals too, You do know that, right, 234 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: And so, uh, you know, ran into a little bit 235 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: of a buzz saw. H you know, got swept at home, 236 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: which never happened to me. I just take it from there. 237 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: But then last night, going the road to San Diego 238 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: and have a real good ballgame. 239 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm hoping while they're on the road 240 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: they get right. Here's the thing. 241 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 4: You had the Yankees, the Padres, the Mets, and the Phillies. 242 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: So guess what, You're starting out the first part of 243 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: the season against the studs. So you got to up 244 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: your game. And that's what I told everybody in spring training. 245 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, look that last week, two weeks of 246 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 4: spring training. You have to up your concentration. You have 247 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: to up your timing. Be on the field for eight 248 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: or nine innings because you're gonna be doing that here. 249 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: You know, as soon as the season starts and once 250 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: that bell rings, I mean boom, once that bell rings, 251 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: you're off and running. So you bet bring your A game. 252 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: There ain't no time to bring your BC and D game. 253 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: No. 254 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I I always had 255 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: trouble the first like week or two of the season 256 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: getting into a rhythm, getting into a groove because you 257 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: do all the runout to the line, the planes fly over, 258 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: then you go on the road, you do another team's 259 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: opening day on the road, and it just you know, 260 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: we're we love routine. So I had trouble getting into 261 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: that routine. And it seems like you know what you're 262 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: talking about. I didn't see a lot of guys play seven, 263 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: eight or nine innings in spring training. I don't know 264 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: if you did late in the season, but I when 265 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I played every day in Montreal, I would ask Felipe, 266 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: I say, hey, stretch me out a little bit these 267 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: last games because I had trouble concentrating seven, eight and nine, 268 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: because my brain wasn't strong enough early in the season 269 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: to focus those last three innings because I hadn't done 270 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: it since the year before. 271 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so so you know, we could never get him out. 272 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: So he's at first base all the time. And he's 273 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: my best friend. Was Tony Gwinn, And you know, he 274 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: and I had a big talk in spring training excuse me, 275 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: during the season about spring training and I said, hey, 276 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: you know, I mean spring training six weeks. I said, 277 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: how do you like condense spring training to make it 278 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: to where you're ready to go for opening Day? He said, 279 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 4: break it up into two weeks segments. So I'm like, 280 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: all right, explain. So he said, you know the first 281 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 4: two weeks. You know, I don't care how much off 282 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: season you know, conditioning, you do as you well know 283 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: you know, you get the spring training, you got your sore, 284 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: and you're getting your body used to being out on 285 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 4: the field again. 286 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: Next two weeks is I'm starting to get my timing down. 287 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: I'm starting to see some pitches and I'm catching catching 288 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 4: the ball pretty good in his own And then the 289 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: last two weeks it is tightening the screws down on. 290 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 3: The ship because the bells getting. 291 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: Ready to ring, and I want to be a game 292 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: when I step on that field for day one. 293 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: And by doing that, by. 294 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: Taking it in two week intervals like that and ramping 295 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: up and getting to where to where I was, you know, 296 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: good to go. I actually believe it or not. I 297 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: was fifteen for fifteen on opening days as far as 298 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 4: you know, getting some hits. So you know, that's pretty good. 299 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: When you got a fifteen game hitting streak against everybody 300 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: else's number one starters, that's pretty solid. 301 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, in your first opening day ever, you go deep 302 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: off Nolan Ryan, So yeah, you were ready to go 303 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: to the screws. We're definitely tightened. Well, we don't have 304 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: to mention names. 305 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: I know you've worked with some Giants first baseman, but 306 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: what would you tell maybe some kids listening to this podcast, 307 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: or somebody that really hasn't played a lot of first base, 308 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: what kind of wisdom would you impart on them about 309 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: playing a position that's very important on the field. That 310 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: everyone thinks, oh, just stick so and so at first base, 311 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: But you were so good over there. You have worked 312 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: with some giants, Like, what are some of the things 313 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: you would tell a young player at first base? 314 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: So some of the young guys that I that I teach, 315 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: I tell them, first off, get squared up to whoever's throwing. 316 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: So if it's third base, you're over here. If it's shortstop, 317 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: if it's second base, When you get squared up to somebody, 318 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: you get wider. 319 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: If you turn this way, you're thin. 320 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: And so a lot of guys would get out there 321 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: in a stretch like this, and you got a real 322 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: small target, whereas I want a real wide target. And 323 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: you know two other things. You use the corners of 324 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: the bag. You do not use the middle of the bag. 325 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: You use the corners of the bag. The front corner 326 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: closest to home plate you use for third and for short. 327 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: And then the back corner you use for second. 328 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: The reason being you're actually closer. And you know, talking 329 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: about six eight inches whatever, but you're closer to whoever's throwing, 330 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: and that usually helps out on a bang bang play. 331 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: Second off is when you stretch and you go to 332 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: catch a baseball. So here I am, I'm real wide, 333 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: I'm big right, and when I go to catch, I 334 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: always have the glove and my head lined up, so 335 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: I can actually watch the ball come into my glove. 336 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: And if you catch it off to the side like this, 337 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: a lot of times you won't see it get in 338 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: your glove. So if you have your head right behind 339 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: your glove, you can watch. 340 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: It all the way in. 341 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Great stuff. Wow, that's gold right there. 342 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about specific names at first base. Bryce Eldridge, you, 343 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen improvements. 344 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: You would know more than me. 345 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I watched him in some drills where he's got these 346 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: big feet and he looks a little clunky, and then 347 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: he got into the games and made some nice, little 348 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: nifty backhand plays, some nice stretches, some nice picks out 349 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: of the dirt. 350 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: You've worked with them, have you seen those same improvements. 351 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: I have seen those same improvements. And so here's what 352 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: I tell everybody. I mean, you got to remember, Bryce Eldridge. 353 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: Did not play a position. In high school, he was 354 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: a pitcher and he was a d H. 355 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: He never played a position, and so when he got drafted, 356 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: the Giants put him in the outfield. And the first 357 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: time I ever met Bryce, I was like, you know, 358 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: how did I How did the outfield treat you? And 359 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: he goes, he goes, well, he goes. I was terrified. 360 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: I did not want a ball out there. He said, 361 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: I had all kinds of problems staying in on the game. 362 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: You know, my mind was wandering and all that sort 363 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: of stuff. And I was like, I can understand that. 364 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: And so since then, you know, he's moved over the 365 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: first base. We've worked together. I couldn't even tell you 366 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: how many times now, and he has made unbelievable improvements. 367 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: He is still getting better and better and better. And 368 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: you and I talked about it when we were in 369 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: spring training. 370 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: Was he had a little rough go of it. 371 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: He had an injury in spring training. He had a 372 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: little rough go of it. And having a young guy, 373 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: you cannot have a young guy come up to the 374 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: major leagues and sit on a bench, and so especially 375 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: a kid like that who's going to be an everyday player. 376 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: So they decided to send him down to Triple A Sacramento, 377 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: and he's playing every day down there and trying to get. 378 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: In a groove. And I told him, you know how 379 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: this game works. 380 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: When you get down there and you get hot, you 381 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: start raking, all of a sudden, boom, you're in the 382 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: big leagues. 383 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: I said, So be ready. 384 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: It's awesome. 385 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Casey Schmidt was not on my Bengo card to be 386 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: the everyday first baseman so far this year, but he 387 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: made a next play last night going toward the line. 388 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Do you guys together in spring training too? 389 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: You know what, we worked a little bit in spring training. 390 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: But believe it or not, Casey wasn't playing first base 391 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: in spring training. He's playing uh third and then and 392 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: in some seconds, so, uh, you know, we didn't work. 393 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: But I talked to him on the opening series about 394 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: about playing over there, and uh, he gets it. You know, 395 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: he's he's a good athlete. And like you said, he 396 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: made a great play last night. You know, his big thing, 397 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 4: his big thing is this is his I don't know 398 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: third fourth position, but you know between in Carnacion himself 399 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: and Devers, I mean they're gonna be splitting time over there. 400 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: So I told him and said, you gotta be ready 401 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: to play over here. 402 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: Just like you gotta be ready to play second, you 403 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: gotta be ready to play short. You gotta be ready 404 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: to play third. 405 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: So, uh, you know, I like Casey a lot. 406 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: I saw Casey in the minor leagues when he was 407 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 4: coming up, and he's one of my potis. 408 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: Hu's Devers doing over there. I know there was some stupid. 409 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: Controversy about you two last year that was yeah, I 410 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: mean we had. 411 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: This year but as well, yeah, as usual, you know, 412 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: blowing it out of proportion and some ai bs and 413 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: all that. 414 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: But you know, Devers is a good athlete. I mean, 415 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: he's just a good athlete. He played third. 416 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: You know, in the big leagues, if you can play third, 417 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: you can play first. 418 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: And it's just you know, at. 419 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: Third the ball goes this way. At first the ball 420 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 4: goes that way. So you just got to adjust to it. 421 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 4: But you know, my big thing is, you know, getting 422 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: him start off on the right foot with the stick, 423 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: because I think that as you well know, you know, 424 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: when you get on a roll with the stick, all 425 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 4: of a sudden you're playing like goal glove defense too, 426 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: and so I think that it would help him you 427 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: know if he got on a roll with the stick 428 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 4: to go play first too, babe. 429 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Will, and this was my mentality 430 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: and maybe you never went through this because you were 431 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: such a great elite hitter. On defense, that was my 432 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: thing and it took me a while in my career 433 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: to learn how to concentrate every single pitch of the game. 434 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: But my big thing was if I ain't hitting, you 435 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: ain't hitting. 436 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: So if I was struggling on offense, I actually played 437 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: better defense because I was trying to take kits away 438 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: from guys because that was my theory. If I'm in 439 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: center field or I'm at second base, i ain't hitting, 440 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you ain't hitting. So I would try to take away 441 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: gets from guys because I was so frustrated at the plate. 442 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean that's a that's a great 443 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 4: way to look at it. Is like, you know, if 444 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: I'm scuffling, well, I'm gonna make you scuffle too, And uh, 445 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: you know, I think that's a great way to be. 446 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: Roger Craig and you know, his coach and staff told me, 447 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: they said, look, there are gonna be days where you're 448 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: gonna be oh for four and you're not gonna look good, 449 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: and you know you're gonna feel like crap up at 450 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: the plate. 451 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: But you can't do that out in the field. 452 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: You can't take a day off out in the field 453 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: and and hurt our team defensively. And uh and so 454 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: I took that with a lot of pride. We have 455 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: a routine. You and I always had a routine when 456 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 4: we get into batters box or in batting practice, we 457 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna take some swings the other way, 458 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna work on situations, We're gonna work on hit 459 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: and runs, whatever it might be. It was the same 460 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: way for me when I was taking ground balls. I 461 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: wanted to take you know, let's say five or ten infield. 462 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: In and I wanted to take five or ten at 463 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 4: my regular position. I'd move towards the line, I'd take 464 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: five or ten, you know, fourhand. Then I'd get off 465 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 4: the line, I'd take five or ten backhand. And you know, 466 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: getting that routine for me, I don't know about yourself personally, 467 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: Getting that routine for me made me more comfortable in 468 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 4: the field. And you know, I got loose and I 469 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: was ready to go for the game when it started. 470 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing is the utility players. 471 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: I played tricks in my mind where if somebody came 472 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: to the game that day, they wouldn't think I was 473 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: a utility player playing that position, like, oh, he's a 474 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: good center fielder or he's a good second basement. So 475 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I would have worked super hard on defense. But well, 476 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: nobody ever talks about Will Clark the base runner. And 477 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: I watched every game all year for the last i 478 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: don't know, fifteen years as a broadcaster, and it's the 479 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: part of the game that frustrates me the most now. 480 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: And you were an elite base runner. You were fast, 481 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: but you were a great base runner, Like how did 482 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: that evolve? And why did you take so much pride 483 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: in your base running skills. 484 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 4: That came, believe it or not, from college. You know, 485 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: at Mississippi State coach Ron Polk went over everything and 486 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: we talked about base running a lot. The one thing 487 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: that we did in the major leagues, believe it or not, 488 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: was we took infield outfield every day, and so I 489 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 4: was able to actually sit there and watch the outfielders 490 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: throw and say, all right, Ken Griffith, j you can throw, 491 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 4: but that guy can't. And so if I need to 492 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: take an extra base, I'm gonna take an extra base 493 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 4: on that guy. And you know there's some other things 494 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 4: going on too. So if you're a left handed center 495 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: fielder and you're going into left center, all right, you 496 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 4: got two things you gotta do. You gotta catch it, 497 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: and you gotta turn all the way around and throw 498 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: to third base. Or you gotta catch it and you 499 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: got a wheel and then throw a third base, which 500 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: is tough to do. Same thing for a right hander 501 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 4: going into right center. So those two situations right there, 502 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: a left handed centerfielder or a right handed centerfielder going 503 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: into the gaps, I would take an extra base and 504 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: make them make a throw in. Usually usually nine point 505 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: nine times out of ten, you were gonna be safe. 506 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're always hustling to and playing hard everything. 507 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 3: And then that's the thing. That's the thing. 508 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: You know this as much as I do, because we 509 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: talk about it. As soon as I hit the ball. 510 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: It's not a single, it is a double. I'm looking 511 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: extra bases. I'm looking ahead to go to the next base, 512 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 4: taking a very aggressive turn at first base, looking to 513 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: get the extra bag. If there's any bobble in the 514 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: outfield or anything like that, I'm gone, I'm on the 515 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: next base, and you see a lot of guys now, 516 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 4: I mean they hit and you know, you take the 517 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 4: bat and there's ten flips and all that before they 518 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: even get the first bass. Like you know, when I'm 519 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 4: sitting there watching a mile leaguer and I got him 520 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 4: on a c you know, and he takes ten seconds 521 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: to get the first base, I'm like, as soon as 522 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 4: he gets in the doug, I'm like, hey, dude, we 523 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: ain't doing that crap. No more. Are you going to 524 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: bust your butt down there, because I want you to 525 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 4: take the extra base. 526 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: It's good stuff, all right. 527 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: The last one for me will you're around Tony Vitello 528 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: in spring training. You got to know him a little bit, 529 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: way too much. Talk early about Tony Vitelo that I'm 530 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: going to talk about after you leave us after this question, 531 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: But your thoughts on Tony Vitello as a Giants manager. 532 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, it's absolutely amazing how armchair 533 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 4: quarterbacks panic. It is amazing. And you know, I got 534 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: a chance to meet Tony in spring training. He's a 535 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: great communicator. First off, he's very well organized, and you 536 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: know he's getting his feet wet. I mean, come on, 537 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 4: he's four games into his first ever major league season. 538 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 4: And you know, one of the great things about Tony 539 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: he's surrounded by a wealth of knowledge. I mean, he's 540 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: got Ron Washington, Jace Tinler, Dusty Baker, and Bruce Bochi 541 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: are around. You know, guys like myself pop in here 542 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: and there. So I mean he's gonna be fine. You know, 543 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: all the naysayers and the bad talkers and all that, 544 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: they just need to shut up. And you know, at 545 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 4: the end of the day, and I don't care whether 546 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: it's Bruce Bochi, Dusty Baker, Tony LaRussa, all the Hall. 547 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: Of Fame managers, I don't care. 548 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 4: It's you can't do anything if the players go out 549 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 4: there and they suck. All right, I'm just telling you 550 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: that right now. All right, if you got a lineup 551 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: that goes out there and they get one hit in 552 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: a nine in game, all you're gonna do is sit 553 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 4: on your hands because you ain't gonna be able to 554 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 4: do nothing. 555 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: So it's all on the players. 556 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: So all you people that are giving Tony but Tallowy 557 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: hell all the time, don't do it. Give the players 558 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 4: the hell of a time. They're the ones that are 559 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: stinking it up out there. 560 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: Words of wisdom from Will to thrilled Clark William user Clark, 561 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on today. I really appreciate it. You're 562 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: my guy. You took time out and I will see 563 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: you at the yard soon. 564 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: You got it, FB man, And uh, I just you know, 565 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: I'm doing it every day. You know, I came from 566 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: came from opening series, and now I'm back home watching 567 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 4: it on TV and I'll continue to. 568 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 3: Follow him every day. 569 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: And uh, all you people out there in San fran 570 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: go giants. 571 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: And you didn't swear the whole podcast. 572 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: Now, can you believe it? 573 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: I didn't drop the F bomb on you. 574 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: That's good. 575 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: That's good. Thanks, will take care buddy, all. 576 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: Right, going pal you too, Thank you so much. 577 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: All Right, that was cool for me, you guys, I 578 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: was like a fanboy through that whole thing. All Right, 579 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: It's time to take care of some business we got 580 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: to add for you. Then I'm coming back with some 581 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: final thoughts. 582 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: This one's for the dudes looking for peak bedroom performance. 583 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: Blue Choo is the number one chewable ed brand and 584 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: they just dropped their newest innovation. 585 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: It is called the blue Choo Gold. 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You play 605 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: the Yankees, who have a really good team. I was 606 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: super impressed with that lineup. They've been together with their 607 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: manager for a while, so there's some continuity there over 608 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: the years with that ball club, so it's not a 609 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: new adjustment. Sometimes as players you get a new coaching staff, 610 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: you want to show your new coaching staff. 611 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: How good you are right away. 612 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: And it looked like the Giants were pressed in that series. Obviously, 613 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: they got their first win, and Tony Vatello went into 614 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: the laundry cart into. 615 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: The showers yesterday. It was pretty cool to see the. 616 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: Ceremony in the locker room where Willie Domas gave him 617 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: a bottle of something congratulated him on his first. 618 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: Major league win. 619 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: And then they come home and it's all they have 620 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: to do is play the Mets in the Phillies. So 621 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: we'll see how this whole thing goes. But I'm glad 622 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: they got their first win last night. Sometimes your first hit, 623 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: your first win, or the hardest things. You want to 624 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: check those boxes early. As a player, you want to 625 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: see an average on the scoreboard, and I'm sure Tony 626 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Vattello wanted to see his first win. So congratulations to 627 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: the Skipper and the Giants for their first win last night. 628 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: There's some matchups to watch moving ahead this week. The 629 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: Mets come to town after the Padres series, and you know, 630 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: there's some really good players on the Mets. Juan Soto 631 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: a guy who I was around when he was young 632 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: in DC. Maybe one of the best hitters, if not 633 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: the best hitter in baseball. And we'll see how the 634 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: Giants approached that. But Robbie Ray has had some good 635 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: success against the Mets in his career, so that's something 636 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm going. 637 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: To keep an eye on. 638 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: He's four and two career against the Mets with the 639 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: three eleven ERA and nine starts, forty six strikeouts in 640 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: those nine starts, So I guess Ray versus Soto is 641 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: what I want to be looking at. And look at 642 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: the numbers. I know it's a small sample size and 643 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: who knows if nine of those were lineouts, but Wan 644 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: Soto hitting one hundred career off Robbie Ray in twelve 645 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 1: at bats one for ten, he's got to walk in there, 646 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: he's got a strikeout, and there's something to keep an 647 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: eye on. 648 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: My matchup to watch in. 649 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: The first series was John Carlos Stanton versus the Giants, 650 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: and I tweeted about it and I talked about it 651 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: on the podcast that he was their hottest hitter and 652 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: he proved that in the series. 653 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: So we'll keep an eye on that moving forward. 654 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: But first thing's first logan web on the mountain tonight 655 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: for the Giants. 656 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: This is so much fun to talk about baseball and 657 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: not moves in the offseason. I want to end with 658 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: this thought today. 659 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of criticism with Tony Vaitello and 660 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the things he's said early in the season after three games. 661 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: I actually read an article today in the Sporty News 662 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: about how Joe Girardi would be a great replacement for 663 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Tony Vatello after three games, and I'm seeing all the 664 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: talk about what he's saying. Look, in sports, we get 665 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: upset when our athletes or coaches don't give us anything, 666 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: when they don't say anything after the game, and it's 667 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: super bland and it's like, yeah, we'll get him tomorrow, 668 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: and it's Clicheville and we criticize that. And now the 669 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: Giants have a manager that's actually saying something and is 670 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: super authentic, and we finally get something with some meat 671 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: on it. Whatever you think about it. He's kind of 672 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: a guy that he's Italian, he has feelings. He's going 673 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: to tell you them, and now he's getting criticized for that. 674 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: So how do you like your sports? Do you like 675 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick that says nothing and gives the media nothing? 676 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Do you like players that give you cliche answers? Or 677 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: do you like a manager or a player that. 678 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Says what he's feeling. 679 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: If we finally have a guy that does this, and 680 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: everybody's like, he needs me training, he needs this. Buster 681 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Posey hired Tony Vitello to be Tony Vitello, and now 682 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: Tony Vitello's being Tony Vitello and getting. 683 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: Criticized for it, and I think it's super unfair. 684 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: And I could go on and on about this for 685 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: another hour, but I'm going to wind up the podcast 686 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: on that thought. 687 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: Thanks to Will Clark for coming on today. 688 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: He's amazing, love the guy you guys saw early on 689 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: in this podcast. I went straight fanboy and it's so 690 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: surreal for me to have my favorite Giant ever growing 691 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: up a Giants fan, and now Will Clark and I 692 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: are friends and he was nice enough to come on 693 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the podcast. So thanks to him, and we. 694 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: Will see you guys soon. Like and subscribe. We need 695 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: to get some more followers. We're kind of stuck at 696 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: a certain number right now. 697 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: So I think today's podcast if you get it, retweet 698 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: it to your friends, copy the link, send it to people, 699 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: tell him to like and follow on YouTube and wherever 700 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. And we want to grow this 701 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: thing big time. And it's only going to get better 702 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: with a list celebrities on here. Susan Slesser, she's amazing. 703 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: She's my frequent contributor on the show. So we're having 704 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: fun doing this, but we want to get at this 705 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: thing really really big. All right, Time to go go 706 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: Giants logan web tonight on the Mound. Hopefully they take 707 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: a series tonight and come back with a I don't know, 708 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: a five hundred record facing the Mets. That would be 709 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: pretty cool, al right. Like I say on the way out, 710 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: every single time, swing hard in case you 711 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: Hit it on Splash Hit Territory.