Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty I'm Strong and Jettie and
Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: The opening act, grabbing headlines for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1: A comedian who offered unfunny, racist, cringe worthy.
Speaker 4: Jokes basically calling Puerto Rican's trash the most repulsive racial
Speaker 4: jokes about Latino's disgusting and hateful.
Speaker 3: So incredibly crude, frankly just.
Speaker 1: Too x rated to play here, extremely wild so called jokes.
Speaker 4: Now obviously in retrospect, having a roast comedian come to
Speaker 4: a political rally a week before election day and roasting
Speaker 4: a key voting demographic probably not the best decision.
Speaker 2: By the campaign politically.
Speaker 4: But to be fair, the guy's really just doing what.
Speaker 2: He does, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, old uh Tony Hinchcliffe. He sold out two nights
Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden just a little while back. I
Speaker 1: guess he's really popular among young men doing very very
Speaker 1: edgy humor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he he refuses to apologize. I wouldn't apologize either. Hey,
Speaker 2: you hired me.
Speaker 1: This is what I am. I'm really popular for what
Speaker 1: I do. Sorry you didn't like it, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what you want from me. Right, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: Leonard Skinner to apologize for going Doweta Le tweet leed tweet.
Speaker 2: Lead tweeted Lee. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: You hired them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's so it is simultaneously, because I've read
Speaker 1: through the jokes simultaneously an orchestrated frantic overreaction by the
Speaker 1: left who are desperate for a narrative.
Speaker 2: And also those jokes.
Speaker 1: Were terrible, I mean, like incredibly unwise in that setting,
Speaker 1: because it's more than the Puerto Rico joke, the Porto
Speaker 1: Rico joke. You got to work to make that quote
Speaker 1: quote racist. We have so dumbed down what is considered
Speaker 1: racist in this country. It's laughable. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: there was some other stuff that was just objectionable. Well,
Speaker 1: you're terrible. To your point, here's jd Vance yesterday.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the joke.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe it's a stupid racist shoke, as you said,
Speaker 5: maybe it's not.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the joke,
Speaker 5: but I think that we have to stop getting so
Speaker 5: offended at every little thing in the United States of America.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm so over it. So anyway, there's that
Speaker 2: view of it.
Speaker 1: John Stewart did play some of the guys act not
Speaker 1: from Sunday Night, but like his regular act and we're
Speaker 1: really edgy jokes and came back to John Stuart's laughing
Speaker 1: and say, I'm sorry, I find the guy funny.
Speaker 2: Yes, I just knew.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but again, like you're your point was, that's
Speaker 1: not the kind of person you put in your rally
Speaker 1: a week out from an election mass appeal. It just
Speaker 1: it's I don't know.
Speaker 6: To me.
Speaker 2: The only thing you could possibly make it, like an honest.
Speaker 1: Real point about is it shows Trump's doesn't really care
Speaker 1: about detailed sort of way of running things.
Speaker 2: That's the only conclusion you could draw.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you want to make that point, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I have several different pieces of journalism slash thinking that
Speaker 1: have to do with the acute discomfort a lot of
Speaker 1: working class America's feeling because of inflation. Housing costs, in
Speaker 1: particular devastating the rates of evictions are going up in
Speaker 1: all sorts of significant markets, including some swing states, and
Speaker 1: it's real gut level. Oh childcare. Folks can't afford childcare.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is in your gut, can't sleep at night,
Speaker 1: economic fear that's going on. And we're talking about this
Speaker 1: roast comedian's unfortunate jokes seriously America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just looking up the TVs.
Speaker 1: I got a bank of televisions in here, and CNN, CBS,
Speaker 1: and ABC all led with it this hour.
Speaker 2: That's a joke, the Puerto Rican joke.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, anyway, at the risk of beating that point to death,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll we'll move on. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: really interesting that Gerard Baker, who's a Trump hesitant conservative
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, wrote a great piece about
Speaker 1: how Democrats made a Trump comeback thinkable, and he talks
Speaker 1: about how the overcharged rhetoric about Trump that takes his
Speaker 1: flaws and inflaces them to just almost hilarious levels. People
Speaker 1: see through that sort of thing, And he said, though
Speaker 1: Trump is a highly flawed guy, we're conflicted because of
Speaker 1: the simple engaging thought about the Democrats themselves. Are we
Speaker 1: really going to let them get away with exploiting our
Speaker 1: unease with Trump, using our doubts and manipulating our angs
Speaker 1: to validate retrospectively the damage they've wrought in the past
Speaker 1: four years, and to approve proactively what they might do
Speaker 1: in the next four. He goes on their deceitfully vacuous campaign.
Speaker 1: It's invitation to sign up to a blank slate, on
Speaker 1: their plans for another term, and collective amnesia about their
Speaker 1: work in the current one. Their empty pantsuit of a candidate,
Speaker 1: incessantly blurting inanities into the media, void incapable of articulating
Speaker 1: a single substantive idea for governing. What they amount to
Speaker 1: is nothing less than an abuse of voter scruples, an
Speaker 1: exploitation of the yearning many have for a hint of normalcy.
Speaker 1: So yes, without the Democrats, Trump couldn't exist, or couldn't
Speaker 1: exist with any strength whatsoever. So I think is a
Speaker 1: good point for those of us who are Trump hesitant
Speaker 1: but agast at the progressives. As watching kamlo Is interviewed
Speaker 1: by Nora O'Donnell on CBS News, I think we have
Speaker 1: clips of it we'll play later. But man, she will
Speaker 1: not answer a question, will not or cannot Nora o'
Speaker 1: donald really tried to nail her down on the whole
Speaker 1: abortion thing. But what restrictions are you in favor of
Speaker 1: because that's something she hasn't outlined in the past. Anything
Speaker 1: she's ever said about it leads you to believe she's
Speaker 1: okay with abortion, you know, up tilly whatever you always
Speaker 1: say up to kindergarten, which is horrific. But she would not,
Speaker 1: she would just would not answer the question. Nor A
Speaker 1: Donald asks several times, and Kamala Harris says, I already
Speaker 1: told you, and just stares at her, and there's like
Speaker 1: a silence between them for a while as nor A
Speaker 1: Donald looks at her and Jay look at each other,
Speaker 1: and nor A Donald moves.
Speaker 2: On, Actually you did if you told me? This is weird?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: He got a nice note from Doug from Boston with
Speaker 1: a bit of analysis the election, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: One point in particular leaves out.
Speaker 1: He says, I think the reason Kamalin never gives any
Speaker 1: direct policy answers is because the party is such a
Speaker 1: loose coalition of strange bedfellows that and she's barely holding
Speaker 1: onto a tie. She can't or to alienate anyone faction
Speaker 1: by giving any concrete answers. That's the same reason jd Vance,
Speaker 1: for instance, is so soft on the anti Ukraine. Putin's
Speaker 1: a hero wackad do wing of right wing America. He
Speaker 1: needs to hold on to them. Yeah, to be fair, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be a perfect mirror image of the same sort
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 2: When JD.
Speaker 1: Vance was asked over the weekend, Jady Vance goes on
Speaker 1: every show because he is very comfortable answering tough questions.
Speaker 1: But ask his enemy, is Russia an enemy or ally
Speaker 1: of the United States? He would not say enemy. That's
Speaker 1: not the right way to look at it. We have
Speaker 1: many countries in the world we do business with and
Speaker 1: different guys, and I thought, really, you can't just say
Speaker 1: Russia an enemy the United States.
Speaker 2: But for the reasons you just.
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, and his point of view is, hey, look
Speaker 1: we're gonna pursue a new relationship. I actually a pretty
Speaker 1: ridiculous to not say Russia's an enemy of the United States.
Speaker 1: I would agree it's there's no reason not to, although
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of Joe Biden being tempted into calling Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia pariah state. It's just a dumb move. Don't play
Speaker 1: your cards until you have to play them, is my opinion.
Speaker 1: In foreign policy. Anyway, I wanted to move on to this.
Speaker 1: It's a Rich Lowry, who's absolutely terrific editor in chief
Speaker 1: of the National Review. He's positing that we've and this
Speaker 1: is a question we've asked several times, that we've passed
Speaker 1: the peak of woke politics.
Speaker 2: In the US.
Speaker 1: And he makes this point through pointing out that Kamala
Speaker 1: has like disavowed all of her ideas that she touted.
Speaker 1: And you know, I could do the list. Do we
Speaker 1: have to defund the police? Oh no, no, no, abolish ice?
Speaker 1: Oh I don't believe in that, Dee, I never heard
Speaker 1: of it. Medicare for all that was three years ago,
Speaker 1: Green New Deal. Let's not get carried away. Allow the
Speaker 1: ad that they're running around the country. I don't see
Speaker 1: ads because I'm in California. There's no point in run ends.
Speaker 1: But the ad that's getting the most attraction, according to
Speaker 1: stuff I read, the Trump ad is the tax sex
Speaker 1: changes for criminals, the criminal illegals.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just. And she says, I will follow
Speaker 2: the law. I will follow. But do you think that's
Speaker 2: a good idea. I will follow the law. All right? Yeah.
Speaker 1: That is the number one Trump ad right now in
Speaker 1: terms of a number of times shrun and the positive
Speaker 1: response focus groups, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And I've seen it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: And what makes it so good is that it has
Speaker 1: Kamala in her own words, and then Charlemagne the God
Speaker 1: and his sidekick saying taxpayer dollars for sex changes for inmates.
Speaker 2: I'm not down with that. Kamala Harris is for they them,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is for you.
Speaker 1: And again, whoever made the point that it's not that
Speaker 1: specific issue, because it's not gonna happen a lot, and
Speaker 1: it would be a drop in a bucket of money.
Speaker 2: It just shows how crazy you are. It shows you
Speaker 2: to be insane. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah ah.
Speaker 1: And then Rich Lowry goes on and this is the
Speaker 1: point I really wanted to get to, and I he's right,
Speaker 1: But well, I'll just read it that Harris now feels
Speaker 1: compelled to disavow so many of the ideas that she
Speaker 1: once embraced. This powerful testament to their political toxicity. An
Speaker 1: idea has won or lost in American politics when both
Speaker 1: parties favor or oppose it, or simply don't want to
Speaker 1: fight over it anymore. Ronald Reagan's economics truly prevailed when
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, via Bill Clinton in the early nineties
Speaker 1: accepted his basic approach.
Speaker 2: The era of big government is over gay.
Speaker 1: Marriage one politically, when Republicans decided to stop talking about
Speaker 1: the issue. By this standard, woke attitudes and policies are
Speaker 1: in marked decline. And Kamala Harris's exhibit A. That's a
Speaker 1: good point and a win for us. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's somewhere between right and wrong. And the reason I
Speaker 1: say that is they still have full capture of so
Speaker 1: many of the centers of communication in our society, specifically
Speaker 1: the media and academia, which is different than those other
Speaker 1: things in a lot of ways. And also, don't forget friends,
Speaker 1: from the time of Lenin and Marx to today, Marxism
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent comfortable with deception. They will absolutely
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, we're not in favor of defunding the
Speaker 1: police because they know it's not popular enough. Then the
Speaker 1: moment they get powered, they will defund the police. So
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Rich is right, but it's an encouraging sign.
Speaker 1: And then, as usual, I've rambled on long enough that
Speaker 1: I didn't get to the main thing I really wanted
Speaker 1: to get to, and that is an obgyn in Texas
Speaker 1: who's been practicing for over thirty years, delivered to over
Speaker 1: five thousand babies. And she says these stories about after
Speaker 1: Texas enacted pro life laws, women are dying because they're
Speaker 1: being or dying because they're being denied emergency medical care
Speaker 1: and for miscarriages, or they took the abortion drug. She said,
Speaker 1: it's not true. It's not true at all. I care
Speaker 1: for these women all the time, and nobody's been denied care.
Speaker 2: For three minutes. It's a fantasy, she said.
Speaker 1: The only women who are getting hurt are women who
Speaker 1: have become so convinced by the Harris campaigns.
Speaker 2: Rhetoric that they can't get care. Wow.
Speaker 1: The doctors are two of them to a man and woman, saying,
Speaker 1: come will take care of you, one hundred percent. There's
Speaker 1: no problem here, Come will take care of you. And
Speaker 1: the campaign's saying, don't even go because they will let
Speaker 1: you die. Well, and then that poor woman in Georgia
Speaker 1: who died who they regularly mention and Liz Cheney mentioned
Speaker 1: on stage the other day.
Speaker 2: I thought, Liz Cheney, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1: So that woman who died in Georgia of sepsis unrelated
Speaker 1: to this as well.
Speaker 2: Documented according to.
Speaker 1: Her own lawyer, who's suing to try to get money,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. So to me, that says, if that's the
Speaker 1: best example, you've got one that's not a good example,
Speaker 1: then it must not happen very often, because if you
Speaker 1: had a clear cut good example, I assume you'd be
Speaker 1: using it.
Speaker 2: So which side really cares about women? That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Hezbollah has a new leader. I think they're oh boy,
Speaker 2: I think they're all.
Speaker 1: State Agent just called and said, we need to talk
Speaker 1: to you about your life insurance premiums.
Speaker 2: They're going up. We've got a bunch more news on
Speaker 2: the way. Stay with us.
Speaker 6: Swinging in a ball driven right field, way back, and
Speaker 6: forget it, it's gone. Freddie Freeman has homer for the
Speaker 6: third straight game in this World Series and now five
Speaker 6: consecutive World Series games. Freeman does the job at two
Speaker 6: run homer and the Dodgers strike first with what else
Speaker 6: the long ball?
Speaker 1: Dodgers win. They're up three to zero in the World Series.
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman has hit a home run in five straight
Speaker 1: World Series games, which ties the record held by a
Speaker 1: guy who played for the Astros who was probably getting signals.
Speaker 2: So right there, you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Freeman's been a monster. Hey, we add an email
Speaker 1: asking did you do what you threaten to do, which
Speaker 1: is by and where a Dodger's hat?
Speaker 2: Now, I did not.
Speaker 1: I never go on the winning I did not get
Speaker 1: around to it. That's just science, folks, that's cause and effect.
Speaker 1: I could go out and buy one and you'd have
Speaker 1: the very first ever World Series three oh collapse, yep,
Speaker 1: if you want that.
Speaker 2: So, uh, didn't Boston come back from three to zero?
Speaker 2: That was in the Division Series. It's never happened in
Speaker 2: a World Series, League championship, League championship. Yeah, they came
Speaker 2: back on the Yankees, Boston a right of course. Yeah,
Speaker 2: both American League teams. Yeah, Uh, that was I gonna say.
Speaker 1: Oh, So, I was kind of excited about the AI
Speaker 1: that Apple Phone was going to have, just because I
Speaker 1: want to start messing around with AI and it's got to.
Speaker 2: Be super easy for me to use and I do
Speaker 2: everything on my phone. But it's getting pretty tepid reviews
Speaker 2: unfortunately so far. I assume it will improve, but you
Speaker 2: never know.
Speaker 1: But here's a little AI chat gb he sort of
Speaker 1: story here from CNN yesterday.
Speaker 3: We're seeing the rise of empathetic AI. This is artificial intelligence.
Speaker 3: It's different from just chat GPT where you're trying to
Speaker 3: get it to help you with creative writing or tasks.
Speaker 3: This is artificial intelligence that is actually created to feel
Speaker 3: human and personable and character AI is an interesting platform
Speaker 3: because it's actually a two way immersive experience where you
Speaker 3: build these characters, or you can have a character that
Speaker 3: you know, and you begin to actually feel like you're
Speaker 3: living within a story. And they build this AI fan
Speaker 3: fiction platform. So this isn't just normal AI that we're
Speaker 3: hearing about. This is the rise of empathetic intelligence, and
Speaker 3: this company has been at the forefront of it.
Speaker 2: So empathetic AI.
Speaker 1: And then there's an example of well that's pretty long,
Speaker 1: but it's a fourteen year old boy who's driven to
Speaker 1: suicide by this. I got to believe the kid was
Speaker 1: struggling before this came along, but yeah, but if you've
Speaker 1: followed the story, it's extremely troubling. Yeah, so the role
Speaker 1: that this platform played you what do you what do
Speaker 1: you think you think this is going to become a thing,
Speaker 1: like a common thing where people feel like they're friends
Speaker 1: with and lovers one hundred percent it's already happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it'll spread like crazy, and the birth rate will
Speaker 1: continue to decline between this and pornography.
Speaker 2: Wow. Man, sorry to be the bear of bad news,
Speaker 2: but I mean, that's that's as clear as it can
Speaker 2: be to me.
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy for me to be quite judgmental about this. Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like you got to be a certain sort
Speaker 1: of sad person for this to happen.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I haven't, I haven't done it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that first time you come home and you realize
Speaker 1: you're talking to your chat bot because they make you
Speaker 1: feel better, you realize, holy crap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad and it's pathetic if it's an adult.
Speaker 1: But like I always say about indoctrination, the reason they
Speaker 1: go after the kids is because it works. It's fairly
Speaker 1: easy to do. And if you're a child or an
Speaker 1: adolescent who's not known the normal way to deal with
Speaker 1: this stuff, having a online porn enhanced quote unquote relationship
Speaker 1: doesn't seem that odd, do you.
Speaker 2: Wow, I gotta look, it's sick.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep an eye on my kids having some
Speaker 1: sort of chat bought friend that's made them feel.
Speaker 2: Good, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 7: The new reports found that Americans are changing their vacation
Speaker 7: plans due to election anxiety. Yep, people are waiting till
Speaker 7: after the election so they know whether by a round
Speaker 7: trip or one way. Wow, okay, smiley, amusing, but some
Speaker 7: people mean it.
Speaker 1: I saw a thing yesterday was uh, and this person
Speaker 1: was completely serious. They're making a list of things that
Speaker 1: they're grateful for should Trump win, to remind them that
Speaker 1: life is still you know, good.
Speaker 2: God, dang it. I can't imagine being that wrapped up
Speaker 2: and who gets elected president? I I care a lot.
Speaker 1: I think it makes a big difference, but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: I don't need like therapy to survive it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wish the most and wise among us. Could you know,
Speaker 1: issue forth some book or editorial or something or other
Speaker 1: explaining how I guess they already have.
Speaker 2: But how is it.
Speaker 1: Everybody like equates their own soul their reason for being
Speaker 1: with a political candidate. But the hell is that, I
Speaker 1: don't know other than unhealthy as can be. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this the other day. We've talked many times
Speaker 1: about how human beings clearly have a tendency toward wanting
Speaker 1: a king, like putting all their faith in a human
Speaker 1: and that's got to be an evolutionary thing that the
Speaker 1: tribes that survived were the ones that all rallied around
Speaker 1: a leader, as opposed to I'm not with him, I'm
Speaker 1: not with them. Some of us are with them, some
Speaker 1: of us are not. Got defeated by the next door
Speaker 1: village where they all believe they'd stuck with the guy
Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah, it's helpful to look at human
Speaker 1: history as a long timeline because democracy has been around
Speaker 1: for as long as golf shoes.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's a completely new thing.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, our tendency is toward the strong leader who
Speaker 1: will defeat our enemy. So you pick somebody, you go
Speaker 1: with him, and then in your mind you justify being
Speaker 1: behind this person no matter what. So your village, everybody
Speaker 1: fights and fights hard because it matters for our guy,
Speaker 1: even with his claws. Or even then, if I'm skinning
Speaker 1: a deer, I'm thinking about skinning a deer.
Speaker 2: Non who's going to be the new tribal chief.
Speaker 1: Then if I'm tending my crops or cleaning out my hut,
Speaker 1: I'm not obsessed with it round the clock anyway. How
Speaker 1: A book from nineteen seventy explains the current election. I
Speaker 1: thought this was very interesting. After this, I vowed to
Speaker 1: reset this and hadn't gotten to it because everything's so
Speaker 1: crazy busy right now. But that story The New York Times,
Speaker 1: which has been pretty brave on the whole abusing and
Speaker 1: torturing children in the name of transgender ideology, they've been
Speaker 1: pretty brave about reporting some stuff, and I I think
Speaker 1: it was last week I brought up that a big
Speaker 1: transgender scientist lady had gotten ten million dollars to do
Speaker 1: a study through the NIH on whether the hormone treatments
Speaker 1: and puberty blockers were actually helping the adolescent kids. Well,
Speaker 1: the study came out with a resounding no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: But then the doctor has declined to publish it out
Speaker 1: of fear that opponents of this garbage will use it
Speaker 1: for their own ends. And I quote, I do not
Speaker 1: want our work to be weaponized. It has to be
Speaker 1: exactly on point, clear and concise, and that takes time,
Speaker 1: fair enough. But if it had found the puberty blockers
Speaker 1: do help the kids, would the study still be unpublished?
Speaker 2: I think not.
Speaker 1: Anyway, this is a setup to the fabulous JK. Rowling
Speaker 1: speaking of moral courage. She's got more money than God,
Speaker 1: but still she is really risked a lot all the
Speaker 1: anti Christian wizard books.
Speaker 2: Wow Wow. Putting that aside for a moment, here's what
Speaker 2: she said.
Speaker 1: Or if you don't know that, we must not publish
Speaker 1: a study that says we're harming children because people who
Speaker 1: say we're harming children will use the study as evidence
Speaker 1: that we're harming children, which might make it difficult for
Speaker 1: us to continue harming children.
Speaker 2: I think this well summarized. JK has quite away with words.
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: I just heard this story the other day. I can't
Speaker 1: believe I forgot it yesterday. I have to be very
Speaker 1: vague because I don't want to get anybody trouble. But
Speaker 1: it's somebody in the world of therapy who talks to
Speaker 1: younger people, and it was the topic of in California.
Speaker 1: How in the schools and in the world of therapy,
Speaker 1: if a young person says they think they're the other sex,
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell the parents.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 1: And this person in the world of therapy said, I
Speaker 1: want one, I thought that was ridiculous, And two said,
Speaker 1: they've had a couple of people, a couple of young
Speaker 1: people come to them with and they were both girls.
Speaker 2: If I remember right, of course, who thought they were boys?
Speaker 2: And she said or he said, could be either. You
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a she or a he be transgender.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be either.
Speaker 1: The therapist said, I talked them out of it in
Speaker 1: like two minutes. But I have other people in my
Speaker 1: world who would have immediately put them, you know, pushed
Speaker 1: them toward the person that's gonna start them on the
Speaker 1: drugs right away. Right, I talked them out of it
Speaker 1: in two minutes. I know people who would have fast
Speaker 1: tracked them down the road. How horrifying is that your
Speaker 1: fifteen year old girl, for whatever reason, you know, being
Speaker 1: a teenager freaking hard, your teenage girl thinks maybe I'm
Speaker 1: a boy. There are some people who said, I'll bet
Speaker 1: you are here start this drug. And once you start
Speaker 1: the drug under affirming care, that's the only thing you
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 2: Affirm it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't affirm it, they're gonna kill themselves,
Speaker 1: so you have to or they're death's on your hands.
Speaker 1: And once you get one drug into them affecting their hormones,
Speaker 1: well then who knows what they're gonna think. I mean,
Speaker 1: everything's up in the air at that point.
Speaker 2: So few to confused.
Speaker 1: Adolescents always know what's best for themselves and ought to
Speaker 1: be empowered to make permanent changes. That nobody has ever
Speaker 1: believed that in all of human history, and yet it's
Speaker 1: getting jammed down our throats. But how scary is that
Speaker 1: that those two kids happened to land with a therapist
Speaker 1: who talked them out of it in two minutes, as
Speaker 1: opposed to a therapist who fast tracked them on the drugs.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's horrifying. That changed the course of
Speaker 1: that child's life. Oh my god, that that therapist is
Speaker 1: a hero and or heroine d or neither, by the way,
Speaker 1: are also worth saying.
Speaker 5: What was it?
Speaker 2: It just flitted out of my head.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, it's just undeniable that adolescent females have a
Speaker 1: tendency toward.
Speaker 2: What is the proper term masses.
Speaker 1: Theory is overstating it, but they are very impressionable. It's
Speaker 1: the same principle though, it's psychological impressionability. Do you remember
Speaker 1: when anarexio was such a huge problem all the time.
Speaker 1: I think, because I think it explains BTS girls. What
Speaker 1: now the popularity of the K pop band I don't
Speaker 1: kid mass hysteria, Oh mass hysteria, not anarexia.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, because I just said anirextion.
Speaker 1: They get they can also get together and believe all
Speaker 1: kinds of weird stuff like BTS is.
Speaker 2: A good band.
Speaker 1: Right, But then anorexia is stopped being a thing because
Speaker 1: they weren't looking at each other and trying to be
Speaker 1: out skinnied and blah blah blah. It's It's still a
Speaker 1: problem in some places, but none nearly as big adolescent
Speaker 1: females are prone to, you know, impressionability anyway, and this
Speaker 1: is the current one. And to affirm it is obscene anyway.
Speaker 1: Enough set on that topic, There'll be more for another day.
Speaker 1: I thought this was so interesting. If you want to
Speaker 1: understand this year's election, look at this book from nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: It's called The Real Majority.
Speaker 1: It was during Nixon's first term, and it was written
Speaker 1: by a couple of Democrats who are trying to save
Speaker 1: their party from future defeats, Richard Scammon and Ben Wattenberg,
Speaker 1: who'd been a speech writer for Lynnon Johnson.
Speaker 2: Fairly well known.
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's Jonah Goldberg's first boss. He always talks about.
Speaker 2: You know, I knew that name was familiar, Okay, anyway.
Speaker 1: So Scamon and Waterberg believed that their fellow Democrats misunderstood
Speaker 1: the country's electorate.
Speaker 2: See if this sounds familiar to you.
Speaker 1: The energy of the nineteen sixties had led the party
Speaker 1: to imagine that the typical voter was young and highly educated.
Speaker 1: As a hypothetical example, the book described a twenty four
Speaker 1: year old political science instructor at Yale, But in reality,
Speaker 1: the authors wrote, the typical voter resembled a forty eight
Speaker 1: year old woman living in the suburbs of Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: who didn't have a college degree and whose husband was
Speaker 1: a machinist. This Dayton voter wasn't poor, but she struggled
Speaker 1: with rising inflation. She worried about crime, student protests, and
Speaker 1: drug use polls showed. I mean, this is like, this
Speaker 1: is almost crazy that this was written fifty four years ago.
Speaker 1: She felt ambivalent about the Vietnam War. She was one
Speaker 1: of the plain people. With Scammon and Waterberg put it,
Speaker 1: we had long voted Democratic but was uncomfortable with the
Speaker 1: party's leftward shift towards the views of the twenty four
Speaker 1: year old Yale instrument Peace unless Democrats changed courses, the
Speaker 1: authors wrote, quote, we may see, well see Republican presidents
Speaker 1: in the White House for a generation. And sure enough,
Speaker 1: Republicans were won four of the next five presidential elections.
Speaker 2: Might have been five of five if you hadn't had Watergate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely true. But I just thought that
Speaker 1: was that's so so prescient.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Today, you know, it's the last decade when many Democrats
Speaker 1: were shoving like less border security, less policing, long COVID lockdowns,
Speaker 1: the end of private health insurance, decriminalization, decriminalization of pronouns, drugs, pronouns, transgender,
Speaker 1: this the anti jew Jewish, you know, chants and everything
Speaker 1: on campuses.
Speaker 2: The real voter is that lady in Dayton, not the
Speaker 2: the social.
Speaker 1: Degree, the women's studies degree spouting Wellesley grad who is
Speaker 1: screaming in the face of a little girl on that
Speaker 1: recent video. If you've seen that, that's that's not the voter.
Speaker 1: Twitter is not America anyway, what's what's old is new?
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very interesting, and uh, we'll see if
Speaker 2: it's right again. And and one final thought.
Speaker 1: They they describe that gal that you know, archetypal gal
Speaker 1: as the plain people, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But I would describe it as the practical people you're
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking back to my younger days. Mean, Judy
Speaker 1: and I I mean plane is kind of like average
Speaker 1: or live on the planes when you said Dayton, Ohio
Speaker 1: average average, Yeah, suburbs, date and yeah. And I think
Speaker 1: I think practical people is not prejudicial. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why because it sounds like I'm trying to win
Speaker 1: an argument. But when when Judy and I had our kids,
Speaker 1: and when Delanny came along, our third kid, we were
Speaker 1: doing okay.
Speaker 2: But Judy was a.
Speaker 1: Stay at home mom and we watched every single penny
Speaker 1: and we lived in a very small rental house and
Speaker 1: flights of ideological fancy were not a big part of
Speaker 1: our world, if you know what I mean. We were
Speaker 1: busting our ass to try to keep the kids fed
Speaker 1: and keep the roof over our heads, try to grow
Speaker 1: the career, you know, get the repairs done on the
Speaker 1: car that we could barely afford. We were just we
Speaker 1: were very much a working American family, even though I
Speaker 1: was in media at the time. We were in media
Speaker 1: at the time. You have to be a twenty seven
Speaker 1: year old women's studies major from Princeton. I think to
Speaker 1: spend all your time and energy on this wild progressive crap.
Speaker 2: People who the plain people, they don't have time and
Speaker 2: they don't.
Speaker 1: Have interest in all this garbage, time being a big
Speaker 1: part of it, and they're not on Twitter much either.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking to what you were saying. Laundry
Speaker 1: and laundry and meals. That's what I spend so much
Speaker 1: of my time on laundry and meals. Yeah, you clean
Speaker 1: up from the last meal, it's time to get the
Speaker 1: next one ready. And I don't have any socks for tomorrow. Crap,
Speaker 1: you're doing that all the time. You don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of time to sit around and think about some
Speaker 1: of this weird crap they come up with and go
Speaker 1: pontific hat online or screech on a college campus about
Speaker 1: how the Jews are settler colonialists. So it's the plain people,
Speaker 1: the practical people. Pick the term you like.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 1: I just saw an article about how the NFL is
Speaker 1: trying to deter political expressions after a forty nine or
Speaker 1: throwing a Trump hat and ran into an interval.
Speaker 2: Oh, now politics is a problem. Are you a fie?
Speaker 2: Are you tagging the NFL?
Speaker 1: That's how it bounds Okay, we have we have more
Speaker 1: all the way to stay with us, Getty. So, speaking
Speaker 1: of parenting, as Joe was, parenting is especially as the
Speaker 1: kids get older. As every parent knows, it's never ending
Speaker 1: judgment calls, never ending judgment calls.
Speaker 2: Everything's a gray area, too strict, too lenient, to.
Speaker 1: You know, too much this, too little of that, whatever,
Speaker 1: varies from kid to kid. It's just NonStop judgment calls. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm not sure if I got this one
Speaker 2: right or not. But we're well.
Speaker 1: My son and I are walking back from the gym,
Speaker 1: which we're going to regularly, which is cool. He's he's
Speaker 1: gonna be thirteen here in a month, and we're walking
Speaker 1: past yard signs in the neighborhood and one of them
Speaker 1: was a Harris Wall sign that said something like keep
Speaker 1: your hands off my body or something like that. And
Speaker 1: my son wanted to know what that was. And he
Speaker 1: had asked the other day what abortion was, and I
Speaker 1: think I ignored.
Speaker 2: Him, but always a good strategy, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: I decided yesterday to get into it and I said
Speaker 2: it's about abortion. He said, what's abortion?
Speaker 1: And then I explained it and he was horrified and
Speaker 1: absolutely horrified, and he's got particular things as longtime listeners
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't a good idea to bring it up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But anyway, I was thinking how he
Speaker 1: was horrified by the suggestion of what it was and
Speaker 1: what their particular view of it was. And I was thinking,
Speaker 1: how much of his horror is the way I portrayed it,
Speaker 1: as opposed to the way that family would have portrayed it.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that family probably would have said the family
Speaker 1: it has the Harris Walls sign in the yard. If
Speaker 1: their kid asked what abortion was, would have said or
Speaker 1: just explaining the sign might have just gone with.
Speaker 2: Some people believe males should be able to tell women
Speaker 2: what kind of healthcare to get.
Speaker 1: Wow, if you have to euphemize something that you know extensively,
Speaker 1: take a look at yourself. Well, that's a pretty common
Speaker 1: thing in the abortion argument, isn't it. I mean, one
Speaker 1: side wants to be very clear what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: and one side wants to use all kinds of euphemisms
Speaker 1: that make it seem like you're not allowed to get
Speaker 1: you know, your tetnis shot right, a bunch of white
Speaker 1: men telling women they can't get tennis shots is what
Speaker 1: it is that would be an odd believe calcium supplements
Speaker 1: or whatever other healthcare you might want.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was trying to think what.
Speaker 1: I'm not unhappy with the opinion that with the conclusion
Speaker 1: he drew from what I explained at all, But I
Speaker 1: was just thinking about how somebody else would have explained
Speaker 1: it in a way that maybe you'd come to a
Speaker 1: different conclusion. Well, yeah, if you were, if you cloaked
Speaker 1: it all in euphemism and dishonesty. And I'm, like most Americans,
Speaker 1: pretty moderate on the topic. I have a oddly and
Speaker 1: esque view. I think abortions ought to be safe and
Speaker 1: rare and for a limited time legal. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any way around that in a society like ours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did explain to him where America is where the
Speaker 1: majority of people are, which is, in case you don't know,
Speaker 1: and you probably do, that a majority of Republicans, Democrats,
Speaker 1: men and women are okay with it first trimester.
Speaker 2: It's just true, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1: But after that, a majority men, women, Republicans, Democrats are
Speaker 1: not okay with it. And it's been steady for years.
Speaker 1: Why we can't just get that into law more or less.
Speaker 1: I don't know demagoguery and dishonesty. Honestly, I think well,
Speaker 1: and to be fair as an analyst, the pro life
Speaker 1: maximalist position, meaning life is sacred from the moment of conception,
Speaker 1: is very very powerful in politics. Sure, very very generous
Speaker 1: in terms of political support and enthusiastic about getting out
Speaker 1: to the polls.
Speaker 2: You have to consider it as a Republican.
Speaker 1: Well, and apparently the given inch, they'll take a mile
Speaker 1: crowd is so convinced that that's true in this case
Speaker 1: that you don't want to have any restrictions at all for.
Speaker 2: A lot of people. I don't get that.
Speaker 1: Right, right well, ginning up fear is such a huge
Speaker 1: part of the democratic playbook at this point. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's almost like all of it. I don't have to
Speaker 1: gin up fear of a legal immigration. Ten million people
Speaker 1: have come in in the last few years, maybe more
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, Who knows. I don't have to gin up
Speaker 1: fear of crime. Look at the National Crime Victim's survey
Speaker 1: that just came out. It's astounding. I don't have to
Speaker 1: gin up the idea that there are junkies in your
Speaker 1: parks and on your streets. But Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: refused to answer the question with Nora O'Donnell last night
Speaker 1: on the CBS News about restrictions. Jes just wouldn't answer it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you'd turn off the people who want abortion. Up
Speaker 1: to the ninth month, I guess coming up some powerful
Speaker 1: voices in favor of just women in women's sports, of
Speaker 1: development on that front, Armstrong and Getty