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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty I'm Strong and Jettie and

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Speaker 3: The opening act, grabbing headlines for all the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: A comedian who offered unfunny, racist, cringe worthy.

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Speaker 4: Jokes basically calling Puerto Rican's trash the most repulsive racial

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Speaker 3: So incredibly crude, frankly just.

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Speaker 1: Too x rated to play here, extremely wild so called jokes.

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Speaker 4: Now obviously in retrospect, having a roast comedian come to

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Speaker 4: a political rally a week before election day and roasting

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Speaker 4: a key voting demographic probably not the best decision.

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Speaker 2: By the campaign politically.

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Speaker 4: But to be fair, the guy's really just doing what.

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Speaker 2: He does, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, old uh Tony Hinchcliffe. He sold out two nights

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Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden just a little while back. I

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Speaker 1: guess he's really popular among young men doing very very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he he refuses to apologize. I wouldn't apologize either. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you hired me.

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Speaker 1: This is what I am. I'm really popular for what

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Speaker 1: I do. Sorry you didn't like it, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you want from me. Right, You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Leonard Skinner to apologize for going Doweta Le tweet leed tweet.

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Speaker 2: Lead tweeted Lee. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: You hired them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's so it is simultaneously, because I've read

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Speaker 1: through the jokes simultaneously an orchestrated frantic overreaction by the

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Speaker 2: And also those jokes.

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Speaker 1: Were terrible, I mean, like incredibly unwise in that setting,

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Speaker 1: because it's more than the Puerto Rico joke, the Porto

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Speaker 1: Rico joke. You got to work to make that quote

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Speaker 1: quote racist. We have so dumbed down what is considered

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Speaker 1: racist in this country. It's laughable. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: there was some other stuff that was just objectionable. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're terrible. To your point, here's jd Vance yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen the joke.

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe it's a stupid racist shoke, as you said,

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Speaker 5: maybe it's not.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the joke,

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Speaker 5: but I think that we have to stop getting so

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Speaker 5: offended at every little thing in the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm so over it. So anyway, there's that

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Speaker 1: John Stewart did play some of the guys act not

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Speaker 1: from Sunday Night, but like his regular act and we're

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Speaker 1: really edgy jokes and came back to John Stuart's laughing

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Speaker 1: and say, I'm sorry, I find the guy funny.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just knew.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but again, like you're your point was, that's

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Speaker 1: not the kind of person you put in your rally

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Speaker 2: The only thing you could possibly make it, like an honest.

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Speaker 1: Real point about is it shows Trump's doesn't really care

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Speaker 2: That's the only conclusion you could draw.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you want to make that point, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I have several different pieces of journalism slash thinking that

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Speaker 1: working class America's feeling because of inflation. Housing costs, in

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Speaker 1: it's real gut level. Oh childcare. Folks can't afford childcare.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is in your gut, can't sleep at night,

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Speaker 1: economic fear that's going on. And we're talking about this

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Speaker 1: roast comedian's unfortunate jokes seriously America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just looking up the TVs.

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Speaker 1: I got a bank of televisions in here, and CNN, CBS,

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Speaker 1: and ABC all led with it this hour.

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Speaker 2: That's a joke, the Puerto Rican joke.

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Speaker 1: So, anyway, at the risk of beating that point to death,

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Speaker 1: really interesting that Gerard Baker, who's a Trump hesitant conservative

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Speaker 1: how Democrats made a Trump comeback thinkable, and he talks

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Speaker 1: about how the overcharged rhetoric about Trump that takes his

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Speaker 1: Trump is a highly flawed guy, we're conflicted because of

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Speaker 1: in the next four. He goes on their deceitfully vacuous campaign.

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Speaker 1: It's invitation to sign up to a blank slate, on

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Speaker 1: So yes, without the Democrats, Trump couldn't exist, or couldn't

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Speaker 1: good point for those of us who are Trump hesitant

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Speaker 1: but agast at the progressives. As watching kamlo Is interviewed

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Speaker 1: by Nora O'Donnell on CBS News, I think we have

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Speaker 1: say up to kindergarten, which is horrific. But she would not,

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Speaker 1: Donald asks several times, and Kamala Harris says, I already

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Speaker 2: On, Actually you did if you told me? This is weird?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: He got a nice note from Doug from Boston with

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Speaker 2: One point in particular leaves out.

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Speaker 1: He says, I think the reason Kamalin never gives any

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Speaker 1: by giving any concrete answers. That's the same reason jd Vance,

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Speaker 2: When JD.

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Speaker 1: But ask his enemy, is Russia an enemy or ally

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Speaker 2: But for the reasons you just.

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Speaker 1: Said, yeah, and his point of view is, hey, look

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Speaker 1: ridiculous to not say Russia's an enemy of the United States.

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Speaker 1: In foreign policy. Anyway, I wanted to move on to this.

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Speaker 1: It's a Rich Lowry, who's absolutely terrific editor in chief

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Speaker 1: And he makes this point through pointing out that Kamala

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Speaker 1: have to defund the police? Oh no, no, no, abolish ice?

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Speaker 1: ads because I'm in California. There's no point in run ends.

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Speaker 2: It just shows how crazy you are. It shows you

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Speaker 1: And then Rich Lowry goes on and this is the

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Speaker 1: But well, I'll just read it that Harris now feels

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure Rich is right, but it's an encouraging sign.

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Speaker 1: And once you get one drug into them affecting their hormones,

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Speaker 1: well then who knows what they're gonna think. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everything's up in the air at that point.

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Speaker 2: So few to confused.

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Speaker 1: Adolescents always know what's best for themselves and ought to

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Speaker 1: be empowered to make permanent changes. That nobody has ever

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Speaker 1: believed that in all of human history, and yet it's

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Speaker 1: getting jammed down our throats. But how scary is that

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Speaker 1: that those two kids happened to land with a therapist

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Speaker 1: who talked them out of it in two minutes, as

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Speaker 1: opposed to a therapist who fast tracked them on the drugs.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's horrifying. That changed the course of

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Speaker 1: that child's life. Oh my god, that that therapist is

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Speaker 1: a hero and or heroine d or neither, by the way,

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Speaker 1: are also worth saying.

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Speaker 5: What was it?

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Speaker 2: It just flitted out of my head.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, it's just undeniable that adolescent females have a

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Speaker 1: tendency toward.

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Speaker 2: What is the proper term masses.

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Speaker 1: Theory is overstating it, but they are very impressionable. It's

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Speaker 1: the same principle though, it's psychological impressionability. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: when anarexio was such a huge problem all the time.

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Speaker 1: I think, because I think it explains BTS girls. What

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Speaker 1: now the popularity of the K pop band I don't

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Speaker 1: kid mass hysteria, Oh mass hysteria, not anarexia.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, because I just said anirextion.

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Speaker 1: They get they can also get together and believe all

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Speaker 1: kinds of weird stuff like BTS is.

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Speaker 2: A good band.

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Speaker 1: Right, But then anorexia is stopped being a thing because

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Speaker 1: they weren't looking at each other and trying to be

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Speaker 1: out skinnied and blah blah blah. It's It's still a

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Speaker 1: problem in some places, but none nearly as big adolescent

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Speaker 1: females are prone to, you know, impressionability anyway, and this

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Speaker 1: is the current one. And to affirm it is obscene anyway.

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Speaker 1: Enough set on that topic, There'll be more for another day.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was so interesting. If you want to

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Speaker 1: understand this year's election, look at this book from nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Real Majority.

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Speaker 1: It was during Nixon's first term, and it was written

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Speaker 1: by a couple of Democrats who are trying to save

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Speaker 1: their party from future defeats, Richard Scammon and Ben Wattenberg,

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Speaker 1: who'd been a speech writer for Lynnon Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Fairly well known.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, that's Jonah Goldberg's first boss. He always talks about.

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Speaker 2: You know, I knew that name was familiar, Okay, anyway.

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Speaker 1: So Scamon and Waterberg believed that their fellow Democrats misunderstood

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Speaker 1: the country's electorate.

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Speaker 2: See if this sounds familiar to you.

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Speaker 1: The energy of the nineteen sixties had led the party

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Speaker 1: to imagine that the typical voter was young and highly educated.

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Speaker 1: As a hypothetical example, the book described a twenty four

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Speaker 1: year old political science instructor at Yale, But in reality,

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Speaker 1: the authors wrote, the typical voter resembled a forty eight

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Speaker 1: year old woman living in the suburbs of Dayton, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: who didn't have a college degree and whose husband was

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Speaker 1: a machinist. This Dayton voter wasn't poor, but she struggled

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Speaker 1: with rising inflation. She worried about crime, student protests, and

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Speaker 1: drug use polls showed. I mean, this is like, this

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Speaker 1: is almost crazy that this was written fifty four years ago.

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Speaker 1: She felt ambivalent about the Vietnam War. She was one

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Speaker 1: of the plain people. With Scammon and Waterberg put it,

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Speaker 1: we had long voted Democratic but was uncomfortable with the

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Speaker 1: party's leftward shift towards the views of the twenty four

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Speaker 1: year old Yale instrument Peace unless Democrats changed courses, the

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Speaker 1: authors wrote, quote, we may see, well see Republican presidents

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Speaker 1: in the White House for a generation. And sure enough,

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Speaker 1: Republicans were won four of the next five presidential elections.

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Speaker 2: Might have been five of five if you hadn't had Watergate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely true. But I just thought that

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Speaker 1: was that's so so prescient.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Today, you know, it's the last decade when many Democrats

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Speaker 1: were shoving like less border security, less policing, long COVID lockdowns,

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Speaker 1: the end of private health insurance, decriminalization, decriminalization of pronouns, drugs, pronouns, transgender,

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Speaker 1: this the anti jew Jewish, you know, chants and everything

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Speaker 1: on campuses.

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Speaker 2: The real voter is that lady in Dayton, not the

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Speaker 2: the social.

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Speaker 1: Degree, the women's studies degree spouting Wellesley grad who is

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Speaker 1: screaming in the face of a little girl on that

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Speaker 1: recent video. If you've seen that, that's that's not the voter.

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Speaker 1: Twitter is not America anyway, what's what's old is new?

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Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very interesting, and uh, we'll see if

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Speaker 2: it's right again. And and one final thought.

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Speaker 1: They they describe that gal that you know, archetypal gal

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Speaker 1: as the plain people, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But I would describe it as the practical people you're

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking back to my younger days. Mean, Judy

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Speaker 1: and I I mean plane is kind of like average

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Speaker 1: or live on the planes when you said Dayton, Ohio

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Speaker 1: average average, Yeah, suburbs, date and yeah. And I think

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Speaker 1: I think practical people is not prejudicial. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why because it sounds like I'm trying to win

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Speaker 1: an argument. But when when Judy and I had our kids,

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Speaker 1: and when Delanny came along, our third kid, we were

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Speaker 1: doing okay.

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Speaker 2: But Judy was a.

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Speaker 1: Stay at home mom and we watched every single penny

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Speaker 1: and we lived in a very small rental house and

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Speaker 1: flights of ideological fancy were not a big part of

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Speaker 1: our world, if you know what I mean. We were

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Speaker 1: busting our ass to try to keep the kids fed

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Speaker 1: and keep the roof over our heads, try to grow

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Speaker 1: the career, you know, get the repairs done on the

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Speaker 1: car that we could barely afford. We were just we

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Speaker 1: were very much a working American family, even though I

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Speaker 1: was in media at the time. We were in media

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Speaker 1: at the time. You have to be a twenty seven

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Speaker 1: year old women's studies major from Princeton. I think to

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Speaker 1: spend all your time and energy on this wild progressive crap.

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Speaker 2: People who the plain people, they don't have time and

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Speaker 2: they don't.

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Speaker 1: Have interest in all this garbage, time being a big

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Speaker 1: part of it, and they're not on Twitter much either.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking to what you were saying. Laundry

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Speaker 1: and laundry and meals. That's what I spend so much

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Speaker 1: of my time on laundry and meals. Yeah, you clean

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Speaker 1: up from the last meal, it's time to get the

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Speaker 1: next one ready. And I don't have any socks for tomorrow. Crap,

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Speaker 1: you're doing that all the time. You don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of time to sit around and think about some

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Speaker 1: of this weird crap they come up with and go

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Speaker 1: pontific hat online or screech on a college campus about

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Speaker 1: how the Jews are settler colonialists. So it's the plain people,

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Speaker 1: the practical people. Pick the term you like.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 1: I just saw an article about how the NFL is

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Speaker 1: trying to deter political expressions after a forty nine or

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Speaker 1: throwing a Trump hat and ran into an interval.

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Speaker 2: Oh, now politics is a problem. Are you a fie?

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Speaker 2: Are you tagging the NFL?

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Speaker 1: That's how it bounds Okay, we have we have more

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Speaker 1: all the way to stay with us, Getty. So, speaking

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Speaker 1: of parenting, as Joe was, parenting is especially as the

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Speaker 1: kids get older. As every parent knows, it's never ending

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Speaker 1: judgment calls, never ending judgment calls.

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Speaker 2: Everything's a gray area, too strict, too lenient, to.

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Speaker 1: You know, too much this, too little of that, whatever,

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Speaker 1: varies from kid to kid. It's just NonStop judgment calls. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm not sure if I got this one

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Speaker 2: right or not. But we're well.

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Speaker 1: My son and I are walking back from the gym,

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Speaker 1: which we're going to regularly, which is cool. He's he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be thirteen here in a month, and we're walking

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Speaker 1: past yard signs in the neighborhood and one of them

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Speaker 1: was a Harris Wall sign that said something like keep

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Speaker 1: your hands off my body or something like that. And

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Speaker 1: my son wanted to know what that was. And he

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Speaker 1: had asked the other day what abortion was, and I

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Speaker 1: think I ignored.

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Speaker 2: Him, but always a good strategy, and for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: I decided yesterday to get into it and I said

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Speaker 2: it's about abortion. He said, what's abortion?

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Speaker 1: And then I explained it and he was horrified and

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Speaker 1: absolutely horrified, and he's got particular things as longtime listeners

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Speaker 1: know that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't a good idea to bring it up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But anyway, I was thinking how he

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Speaker 1: was horrified by the suggestion of what it was and

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Speaker 1: what their particular view of it was. And I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: how much of his horror is the way I portrayed it,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the way that family would have portrayed it.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that family probably would have said the family

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Speaker 1: it has the Harris Walls sign in the yard. If

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Speaker 1: their kid asked what abortion was, would have said or

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Speaker 1: just explaining the sign might have just gone with.

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Speaker 2: Some people believe males should be able to tell women

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Speaker 2: what kind of healthcare to get.

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Speaker 1: Wow, if you have to euphemize something that you know extensively,

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Speaker 1: take a look at yourself. Well, that's a pretty common

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Speaker 1: thing in the abortion argument, isn't it. I mean, one

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Speaker 1: side wants to be very clear what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: and one side wants to use all kinds of euphemisms

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Speaker 1: that make it seem like you're not allowed to get

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Speaker 1: you know, your tetnis shot right, a bunch of white

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Speaker 1: men telling women they can't get tennis shots is what

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Speaker 1: it is that would be an odd believe calcium supplements

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Speaker 1: or whatever other healthcare you might want.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I was trying to think what.

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Speaker 1: I'm not unhappy with the opinion that with the conclusion

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Speaker 1: he drew from what I explained at all, But I

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Speaker 1: was just thinking about how somebody else would have explained

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Speaker 1: it in a way that maybe you'd come to a

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Speaker 1: different conclusion. Well, yeah, if you were, if you cloaked

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Speaker 1: it all in euphemism and dishonesty. And I'm, like most Americans,

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Speaker 1: pretty moderate on the topic. I have a oddly and

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Speaker 1: esque view. I think abortions ought to be safe and

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Speaker 1: rare and for a limited time legal. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any way around that in a society like ours. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did explain to him where America is where the

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Speaker 1: majority of people are, which is, in case you don't know,

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Speaker 1: and you probably do, that a majority of Republicans, Democrats,

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Speaker 1: men and women are okay with it first trimester.

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Speaker 2: It's just true, whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 1: But after that, a majority men, women, Republicans, Democrats are

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Speaker 1: not okay with it. And it's been steady for years.

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Speaker 1: Why we can't just get that into law more or less.

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00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't know demagoguery and dishonesty. Honestly, I think well,

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Speaker 1: and to be fair as an analyst, the pro life

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Speaker 1: maximalist position, meaning life is sacred from the moment of conception,

642
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: is very very powerful in politics. Sure, very very generous

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Speaker 1: in terms of political support and enthusiastic about getting out

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Speaker 1: to the polls.

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Speaker 2: You have to consider it as a Republican.

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Speaker 1: Well, and apparently the given inch, they'll take a mile

647
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Speaker 1: crowd is so convinced that that's true in this case

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Speaker 1: that you don't want to have any restrictions at all for.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people. I don't get that.

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Speaker 1: Right, right well, ginning up fear is such a huge

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Speaker 1: part of the democratic playbook at this point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like all of it. I don't have to

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Speaker 1: gin up fear of a legal immigration. Ten million people

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Speaker 1: have come in in the last few years, maybe more

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Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, Who knows. I don't have to gin up

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Speaker 1: fear of crime. Look at the National Crime Victim's survey

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Speaker 1: that just came out. It's astounding. I don't have to

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Speaker 1: gin up the idea that there are junkies in your

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Speaker 1: parks and on your streets. But Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: refused to answer the question with Nora O'Donnell last night

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Speaker 1: on the CBS News about restrictions. Jes just wouldn't answer it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you'd turn off the people who want abortion. Up

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Speaker 1: to the ninth month, I guess coming up some powerful

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Speaker 1: voices in favor of just women in women's sports, of

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Speaker 1: development on that front, Armstrong and Getty