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Speaker 2: Oh what's going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: Week fifteen, NFL and beyond. We will get into it

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Speaker 3: Find morning to you, Jensivery here, how we got a

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Speaker 3: triple header of NFL action on a Saturday countdown to

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Speaker 3: NFL kickoff.

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Speaker 2: That's what I like to hear it.

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Speaker 3: Let me just throw this out out at you because, uh,

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Speaker 3: we'll get to the three matchups today. But Brandon Staley

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Speaker 3: fired as Chargers head coach. The Chargers lose to the

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Speaker 3: Raiders sixty three to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: This is the NFL in the nutshell.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders didn't score a single point against the Vikings,

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Speaker 3: they get.

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Speaker 2: Shut out, and then they hang sixty.

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Speaker 3: Three on the Chargers and Staley gets his walking papers.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't make sense, it's not fair, it's not

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Speaker 4: fun sometimes, but that's what happens when you have a

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Speaker 4: league that has a bunch of teams in it who

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Speaker 4: can win at any time. That's what parody looks like.

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Speaker 4: That's what everybody's clamoring for in all sports, so that

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Speaker 4: everybody has a chance to win on any given Sunday

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Speaker 4: or any given game day. I should say in terms

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Speaker 4: of Brandon Staley getting fired, Look, I hate and I

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Speaker 4: do mean it.

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Speaker 2: I hate talking about people losing their jobs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurts my stomach, It hurts my soul coming

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Speaker 4: from this line of work where obviously in any performance

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Speaker 4: based industry you know it's coming.

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Speaker 2: There aren't a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of happy endings. Most of the time, these things end

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Speaker 4: in firings. If you go back through the annals of

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Speaker 4: the great coaches who have ever coached this sport, the

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Speaker 4: majority of them are fired. That's how their careers end,

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Speaker 4: right If you look through the majority of Hall of famers,

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Speaker 4: it's not like they went out on their shield the

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Speaker 4: way they wanted to.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Peyton Manning retired to Denver, Bronco. Not a cult Joe

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Speaker 4: Montana arguably until the goat Tom Brady replaced him as

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Speaker 4: the best of all time.

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Speaker 2: He retired a chief, not a forty nine er.

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Speaker 4: Brett Favre, the most packery packer there that has ever packered.

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Speaker 4: He was a Viking in a jet before he finished

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Speaker 4: his career. Tom Brady, he finished his career with the Bucks.

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Speaker 4: So there aren't a lot of happy endings in football,

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Speaker 4: and it's unfortunate because it's a really, really difficult sport,

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Speaker 4: and it's there's an enthusiasm around this sport that is

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Speaker 4: unlike many others. But when you're not getting the results,

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Speaker 4: or when a team decides you're too old, or your

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Speaker 4: talents are diminishing, or you're too expensive, or you know,

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Speaker 4: in terms of what happened on Thursday night, a team

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Speaker 4: deems that your message has gone stale, these are then

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Speaker 4: comfy moments that follow. And so Brandon stally. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it was for lack of effort. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he wanted to have a team that underperformed. But that's

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Speaker 4: exactly what happened, and results are the results.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was there on Thursday, guys, I was in the building.

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Speaker 5: I watched that take place.

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Speaker 6: It was like a.

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Speaker 5: Train wreck, a car accident and in just like an explosion,

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Speaker 5: all happening on the field, all at the same time.

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Speaker 5: You almost saw the first quarter, you saw like the

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Speaker 5: different stages of grief by this Chargers team, like they

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Speaker 5: almost knew. I think they knew at halftime he was

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Speaker 5: gonna be gone. Richard Sherman was calling for it at halftime,

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Speaker 5: but you could see the like you could see the

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Speaker 5: really like he lost the team. And I'm sure he

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Speaker 5: lost the team at a prior point, but it was

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Speaker 5: evident to everyone watching that game on Thursday night that

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Speaker 5: it just it wasn't getting through, and the irony was.

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Speaker 5: There was a press conference that was posted from after

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Speaker 5: the game on November twenty fifth, of the twenty sixth.

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Speaker 5: It was like three weeks ago, and everyone was posting

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Speaker 5: this press conference because Brandon was asked the specific question,

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Speaker 6: And his response three weeks.

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Speaker 5: Ago was yes, otherwise we would gotten blown out of

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Speaker 5: been close. And it's almost like he was writing his

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Speaker 5: own ending, like he said it three weeks ago. He's like, yes,

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Speaker 5: my message is getting through because we have not yet

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Speaker 5: a half weeks later, they get blown out of the stadium.

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Speaker 5: And it's obvious that the message is gone, and so

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Speaker 5: is Brandon. And I agree with you, Rich, I as

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Speaker 5: someone who has been let go from multiple broadcasting institutions,

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Speaker 5: it is not a pleasurable thing. Like and people joke

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Speaker 5: about it on social media all the time, and I

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Speaker 5: do kind of feel guilty because you never want anyone

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Speaker 5: to lose their job, lose their livelihood. But it's kind

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Speaker 5: of like the way that the NFL is with injuries,

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Speaker 5: Like these guys kind of know what they're signing up for,

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Speaker 5: and it's it's a part of the sport, as Rich

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Speaker 5: alluded to, Like all great players, all great coaches, they

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Speaker 6: Go through this at some point.

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Speaker 5: So it it it is going to be interesting to

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Speaker 5: see where Justin Herbert goes from here and where the

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Speaker 5: rest of this franchise goes from here, because obviously Brandon

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Speaker 5: Staley was not the right fit for what the message

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Speaker 5: the Chargers really needed.

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Speaker 3: I get that greatness sometimes doesn't get to dictate their

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Speaker 3: own terms, but Brandon Staley is in a category much

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Speaker 3: much lower than greatness, you know, and so that's why

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Speaker 3: you get the heave ho during the season. And look,

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Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, but this is the ultimate bottom line business.

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Speaker 3: And if you weren't getting it done and you weren't

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Speaker 3: winning enough games, you will be fired. And that's exactly

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Speaker 3: what happened. It's crazy too, where the last chapter in

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Speaker 3: the Brandon Staley era with the Charge the Raiders scored

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Speaker 3: a record sixty three points in their franchise's history and

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Speaker 3: the Chargers give up a record sixty three points in

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Speaker 3: their franchise is history. And that's the thing. Man, If

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Speaker 3: you come in and your specialty is the defense, you

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Speaker 3: the league. And that's what happened right there. Spinning it forward, though,

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Speaker 3: who comes in now? And I wonder if Belichick is

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Speaker 3: gonna end up in LA. That's got some real potential

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Speaker 3: in terms of fit, right because Belichick he's not forty

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Speaker 3: seven anymore. This is the twilight of his coaching career.

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Speaker 3: And I'll hear these rumors of hey, maybe the Panthers,

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Speaker 3: But matching up with Herbert and that roster that has

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said something really intelligent there, Brian, and I

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Speaker 4: want to comment on that before spinning it forward. You

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Speaker 4: do have to own your own backyard, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: If you're Brandon Staley and you come in as a

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Speaker 4: defense of Guru from the Rams, and your effort is

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Speaker 4: the yard is mode.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it better be mode.

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Speaker 4: They had a bottom third defense in points allowed and

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Speaker 4: yards all three years, all three years that he was

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Speaker 4: the head coach. It's inexplicable. It's inexcusable. So when we're

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Speaker 4: talking about a results driven business, if I'm his boss,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the paperwork and I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is what we hired you for.

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Speaker 4: Like, I just don't understand what I'm looking at versus

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Speaker 4: what you're saying. What you're saying isn't making sense. The

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Speaker 4: other thing is that I put this tweet out yesterday.

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Speaker 4: My dad had a saying when we were growing up,

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Speaker 4: too much birthday cake. He used to say this to us,

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Speaker 4: and it was and it can apply to everything. It

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Speaker 4: can apply to everything. It doesn't have to apply a

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Speaker 4: birthday cake. Although it's a good example and everybody knows

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Speaker 4: that point in the birthday party where all the kids

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Speaker 4: had too much birthday cake. Yeah right, somebody's throwing a

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, the string from the party had

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Speaker 4: Johnny's gotta go home, and Mike pete his pants like

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Speaker 4: it's a disaster. Too much birthday cake, right, too much

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Speaker 4: birthday cake is a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: Now little bit's a really good thing.

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Speaker 4: And the problem with Brandon Staley is he couldn't figure

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Speaker 4: out when it was too much birthday cake with these analytics,

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Speaker 4: like going forward on these fourth down conversions, sometimes deep

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Speaker 4: in his own territory when he didn't need to, when

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Speaker 4: he could have punted it away and trusted his defense

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Speaker 4: at times. I mean, again, the defense was a problem,

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Speaker 4: but there were these moments where you would just scratch

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Speaker 4: your head and be like, don't outsmart the room, Like,

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Speaker 4: don't try to reinvent the wheel.

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Speaker 2: This is way too much. It's like you could tell

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Speaker 4: Was happening that he was about to hand the game

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Speaker 4: and it wasn't bad all the time. But it was

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Speaker 4: really bad at times, and it did feel like too

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Speaker 4: much birthday cake. But back to what you were saying, Look,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be Belichick. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a big name coach. And here's the

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Speaker 4: reason why the Chargers don't spend like that. They haven't

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Speaker 4: of coaching hires they've made. It's always a North Turner.

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Speaker 4: It's always an Anthony Lynn, it's always a Mike McCoy,

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Speaker 4: it's always a Brandon Staley. It's always that second tier

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Speaker 4: willing to spend that. And so sometimes with those coaches,

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Speaker 4: and you can ride it for a little while, but

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Speaker 4: a lot of times you're gonna get the second tier

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Speaker 5: And I feel for Justin Herbert because you know, you're

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Speaker 5: kind I'm wasting the best years of his rookie contract,

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Speaker 5: right And he's had Brandon Staley, Anthony Lynn, and Mario

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Speaker 5: Cristoball at Oregon as his head coaches. He never had

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Speaker 5: a chance. Guys, let's be honest. Let's be honest here.

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Speaker 5: I feel for Justin. But back to your point, Rich,

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Speaker 5: I saw her to me last night.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's absolutely spot on, but

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Speaker 5: it's kind of it's kind of funny because I think

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Speaker 5: year one was too much. Right, So Brandon gets hired

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Speaker 5: year one and he's like thirty eight years old, his

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Speaker 5: first head coaching job, coming off of the RAMS gig,

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Speaker 5: and he's this bright, young eyed, bushy tailed head coach

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Speaker 5: and it was over. It was too much birthday cake

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Speaker 5: year one, overly aggressive analytics.

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Speaker 6: And then last year was kind of like the opposite.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like he heard a lot of the

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Speaker 5: rumblings and he heard some of the things that maybe

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Speaker 5: a fifty five year old coach wouldn't who's had a

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Speaker 5: couple of gigs. Maybe he was able to kind of

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Speaker 5: do think the outside noise impacted him last.

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Speaker 5: And I think Thursday was unfortunately like the loud Thud,

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Speaker 3: It's gonna pale in comparison to what you're paying Herbert.

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Speaker 4: Actually, what's so interesting about Thursday Night and anytime somebody

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Speaker 6: I remember that game.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing you could do at that point.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I mentioned this matchup could have been your

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Speaker 2: Yes, what we're getting today, but.

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Speaker 3: Hey, still an interesting at the Vikings Bengals. Both teams

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Speaker 4: The part of the season you love is every game matters.

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Speaker 4: Almost every game matters, you know, the majority of them

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Speaker 4: You got the the Cincinnati Bengals in the thick of

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Speaker 4: but call it sixty five percent, seventy percent of Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals looked awful. They looked awful, and then

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be a real problem in the AFC. Well,

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Speaker 4: he goes down for the season, and so the automatic

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Speaker 4: the problem, though, there's only one Brock party per year allowed, Like.

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Speaker 6: That's it, that's the QUOTEA Like.

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Speaker 2: That's the quote.

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Speaker 4: We've reached the quote reached it, Like we're not allowed

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning as good as he's looked over.

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Speaker 4: Three weeks now, like, is it possible that he stays

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Minnesota Vikings are kind of licking their

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals. But teams with backup quarterbacks get found out eventually,

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Speaker 4: like it just happens, like they're not They're not going

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Speaker 5: This the line movement in this game was intriguing because

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Speaker 5: it's gotten buttoned up to three right, kind of right

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Speaker 6: That's despite a lot of people betting the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people are betting the Joe Mixon touchdown

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Speaker 6: Betting the Bengals today.

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Speaker 5: both of them are kind of banged up, Higgins and

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Speaker 5: Chase today. I don't know which one's more banged up

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Speaker 5: here and why this line's kind of shortened up, because

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Speaker 6: If you got a four to four and.

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Speaker 3: A half, yeah, you could win a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if you just said, hey, who's had

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Speaker 2: It's the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over eight weeks, right, Like that's not a little

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Speaker 3: So when I look at this matchup just surface level,

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Speaker 3: And that's the other part of this is, Okay, Nick

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Speaker 3: Mullins is going up against a lesser defense. The Bengals

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Speaker 3: but it's Nick Mullins, right, So what are you gonna

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Speaker 3: game is over, you're gonna be like, yeah, that makes

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Speaker 3: all the sense world, But going into it, you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's a bit of a toss up this

442
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Speaker 2: one here.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting about the jungle to going there to Cincinnati

444
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 4: and playing and I played in a playoff game there

445
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Speaker 4: in twenty thirteen, and that you could take the crowd

446
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Speaker 4: out of the game pretty quickly, Like yeah, they can

447
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 4: get quiet there and they can I wouldn't say they

448
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 4: would necessarily turn on their home team fast, but it's

449
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Speaker 4: just not one of those fan bases that is going

450
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Speaker 4: to stick around and shout until their voices are horse

451
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Speaker 4: you know, all the way through until the fourth quarter.

452
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Speaker 4: Like that, that crowd can be taken out of the game.

453
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Speaker 4: And so look if the Vikings go out, which they're

454
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Speaker 4: capable of doing with Kevin O'Connell at head coach, getting

455
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: a quarterback prepared in a hurry, like think about what

456
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Speaker 4: happened with Josh Dobbs when he first got there over

457
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Speaker 4: that two game stretch. Now again that media landed. But

458
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Speaker 4: Nick Mullins gets a bite at the apple here. He's

459
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Speaker 4: got a full week of practice under his belt. You

460
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Speaker 4: have Kevin O'Connell in his ear the entire time, calming

461
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Speaker 4: them down, walking them through this thing. I like Jordan

462
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Speaker 4: Addison in this game getting fed. I think if Cincinnati

463
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Speaker 4: is smart, they're going to go after Jefferson, try to

464
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Speaker 4: shut him down. And so that means Jordan Addison, who

465
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Speaker 4: had a huge start to the season, I think he's

466
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Speaker 4: going to get his and I would feature that. I

467
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Speaker 4: would feature that until they force us to stop getting

468
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Speaker 4: it to Addison and using strengths instead of weaknesses to

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Speaker 4: rule the day.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple things here in terms of momentum,

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Speaker 5: and I know it doesn't matter as much when you're

472
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Speaker 5: making the switches that these teams make on a week

473
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Speaker 5: to week basis with personnalit and with quarterbacks. But the

474
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 5: Vikings didn't score last week until they put Mullins in

475
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Speaker 5: the game, and then they scored. I know it wasn't

476
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Speaker 5: exactly you know, the greatest show on turf there in

477
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Speaker 5: Vegas last week, but.

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Speaker 6: They were able to score and win the game.

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Speaker 5: He's a hint of a field goal. And then the other

480
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 5: thing to keep in mind here, we haven't even mentioned

481
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Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson's name yet. Like you know, he left the game.

482
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Speaker 5: He came back last week, then left it very soon.

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Speaker 5: I want to say he played maybe a quarter two

484
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Speaker 5: quarters max, and then he was right back.

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Speaker 6: He had to go to the hospital.

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Speaker 5: He had that like it was like a back or

487
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Speaker 5: a chest or some kind of upper body contusion that

488
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Speaker 5: he had to get checked out. But we're hearing he's

489
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Speaker 5: gonna play this week. And it is fair to say,

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Speaker 5: based off of what I've seen in the market that

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Speaker 5: the sharp money is on Minnesota in this game, and

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Speaker 5: Mullins was in the scheme last year, right, It's not

493
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Speaker 5: like he's never been in this system before. With Kevin O'Connell,

494
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 5: he played for the Vikings last season. He just didn't get.

495
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Speaker 6: That first crack at this backup gig.

496
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Speaker 5: They gave Jaron Hall the chance and then he got hurt,

497
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Speaker 5: and then they put the game and then it ended

498
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 5: up working out and now here they are back with Mullins.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's the fourth quarterback and what four weeks

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Speaker 5: five weeks for Minnesota, so it's been a really like

501
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Speaker 5: surface level. I understand why nobody wants to bet them

502
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Speaker 5: this week from a public perspective, but the sharp money

503
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Speaker 5: is definitely taking Minnesota for three and a half and

504
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 5: now down to three. So if we see a three

505
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Speaker 5: and a half at some point in the next couple hours, guys,

506
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Speaker 5: I think we're kind of talking ourselves into the Vikings, right.

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Speaker 3: You know It's funny, Jared is the Vikings are a

508
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: little bit like the Tennessee Volunteers this in terms of

509
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: just completely different formula for success.

510
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Speaker 2: Where Tennessee last.

511
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Speaker 3: Year it was throw it all over the place with

512
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: head and hooker, wide open offense. This year, it wasn't

513
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Speaker 3: like that at all. They won with a running game

514
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: and defense. Now they don't win a lot, but their

515
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: style changed tremendously. It's the same thing with the Vikings.

516
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Speaker 3: The Vikings threw it around all over the place. Kirk

517
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Speaker 3: Cousins puts up numbers, he goes down and what have

518
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: they done this season. It's like, well, they've won mostly

519
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: with defense, and I know they're seven and six, but

520
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: their defense last year was a wreck awful and that's

521
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Speaker 3: what's leading the charge this year. So I would call

522
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Speaker 3: them the volunteers of the NFL. Yeah, that's a great

523
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Speaker 3: way to describe them.

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Speaker 4: It's fascinating to see also how teams respond, because I

525
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: think what was perceived as a weak point for the

526
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Speaker 4: Vikings has turned into his strength, and what was deemed

527
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Speaker 4: the strength from last season has turned into a weakness,

528
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Speaker 4: which shows you, what shows you some level of talent

529
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Speaker 4: at head coach and with that coaching staff overall. I

530
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Speaker 4: think a lot of credit needs to be given to

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell. I think that he's done a really nice

532
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: job steadying this ship through what you just described, Jared

533
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Speaker 4: as a stretch in the NFL, where you should be

534
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: falling off of the face of the planet like you

535
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: are tumbling through quarterbacks the way the Vikings have had.

536
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Speaker 2: I mean, this should be a three win football team

537
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: at this point.

538
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Speaker 4: I have no idea how the Vikings are even in

539
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 4: the playoff conversation, and they're the six seeds.

540
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Speaker 2: So this is a prideful group.

541
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Speaker 4: You know that whatever the message being sent from the

542
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: top from KOC is, it's reaching the locker room. These

543
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 4: guys believe in themselves. So with I don't know how

544
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: healthy Jefferson's gonna be, but at very least the ability

545
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 4: to use him as a decoy for Nick bullens. If

546
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: you could get out to an early lead, like I

547
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: talked about those crowds in Cincinnati, and you can quiet

548
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: them down, this could be one of those games where

549
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: the Bengals may look at each other at halftime and

550
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: be like, we're in for a dog fight here, and

551
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: we got a backup in here too. There's no Joey

552
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: b waiting to come out of out of the locker

553
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 4: room and save us in the second half. That's Jake Browning.

554
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Speaker 4: So we got to support our guy and find a way.

555
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Speaker 4: And I don't know.

556
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Speaker 2: I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Understand the lean is decidedly from a lot of experts Cincinnati.

558
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Speaker 4: But if that line moves at all in favor of

559
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Speaker 4: the Vikings, I mean, even at half point, I might

560
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Speaker 4: jump on that.

561
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no where if we get to we get a

562
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Speaker 5: three and a half at some point on Minnesota, We're

563
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: gonna bet it this morning, and I'll be very diligent

564
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 5: about checking the market. But let's be honest with the

565
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 5: standings too, guys. If Detroit, if the Denver wins this

566
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 5: game tonight in Detroit, and Minnesota figures out a way

567
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 5: to pull this one off. The Vikings play the Lions

568
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Speaker 5: twice over the last three weeks of the season, and

569
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Speaker 5: they're right now currently two games back. If they can

570
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: make up that ground today, they'd be one game back

571
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Speaker 5: with two games left against Detroit. The division is not

572
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 5: settled yet. If things don't go Detroit's way today, even

573
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 5: if Detroit wins today and Minnesota wins and the Vikings

574
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 5: win those last two games over the Lions, the Vikings

575
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Speaker 5: are going to win the division.

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Speaker 6: So this is an interesting one.

577
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: Today could be a tilting moment for this NFC North.

578
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and props to Brian Flores, the defensive coordinators, a

579
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Speaker 3: tremendous job, no doubt anchoring. We got an anchor on

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Speaker 3: this show as well. He goes by the name Isaac

581
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Speaker 3: Lowen crun He's got the latest for you. I low

582
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Speaker 3: what is going on here on a Saturday.

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Speaker 8: Anchors away because indeed three NFL games today that we

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Speaker 8: get to talk about kicks off one pm Eastern, the

585
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Speaker 8: Bengals hosting the Vikings, both teams seven and six. Then

586
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Speaker 8: the Colts hosting the Steelers, both those teams also seven

587
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 8: and six. Tonight, the Broncos visiting the Lions. By the way,

588
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 8: the Detroit Free Press reports the Lions backup quarterback Teddy

589
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 8: Bridgewater plans.

590
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: To retire after this season.

591
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 8: In the NBA, on Friday night, Jalen Brunson of the

592
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 8: Knicks scored a career high fifty and their one thirty

593
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 8: nine one twenty two win at Phoenix. He was seventeen

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Speaker 8: out of twenty three from the field, including twelve out

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Speaker 8: of twelve in the second half, nine out of nine

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Speaker 8: on three pointers. The Philadelphia seventy six ers defeated Detroit

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Speaker 8: one twenty four to ninety two. That's a franchise record

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Speaker 8: twenty two consecutive losses for the Pistons. The NBA Singles

599
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 8: season record is twenty six and the San Antonio Spurs

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Speaker 8: broke their eighteen game losing streak with a one nine,

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Speaker 8: one fifteen triumph over the Los Angeles Lakers, who played

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Speaker 8: without Anthony Davis due to a hip injury and coming

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Speaker 8: up Fellas. At eleven am Eastern time this morning, it's

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Speaker 8: the start of the college football bowl season and leading

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Speaker 8: off the Myrtle Beach ballo from Conway, South Carolina, It'll

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Speaker 8: be Ohio at nine to three against Georgia Southern.

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Speaker 2: And just to bring everything full circle for you.

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Speaker 8: Guys, new Los Angeles Chargers interim head coach Giff Smith

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Speaker 8: happens to be a member of the Georgia Southern Athletic

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Weack to you very nice nugget. Isaac Lohan produt it is.

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Speaker 3: after we get off the air. Anything you're looking forward

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Speaker 3: to on the bull slate today, we got a handful

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Speaker 3: of them, like Ucla Boise State. You get a little

622
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Speaker 3: side by side TV action going with the NFL today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that matchup.

624
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: I got to watch both of these teams in person

625
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: this season on the call this college football season, and

626
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Speaker 4: I'll say this, that Boise State team's gonna look vastly

627
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 4: different than the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Taylor Green, who's a very talented dual threat quarterback transfer

630
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: out to Arkansas. They got a new head coach who

631
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: is interim but then named permanent who's taken over the program.

632
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Speaker 2: They're starting a true freshman CJ.

633
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Speaker 4: Tiller, So this is going to be a completely revamped team.

634
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: This is like what's happening with the Boise State Broncos

635
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: in the LA Bowl is the most up to date

636
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: modern era college foot There is like new head coach,

637
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: transfer starting quarterback, brand new true freshman starting quarterback in

638
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: the bowl game. Like this is what college football looks

639
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: like in the ball season now.

640
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, UCLA is really up against it. But the line

641
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: is steaming in their favor. I mean I so when

642
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: I handicap the bowl games, I don't even dig into

643
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: EPA analytics efficiency, Like it's not even important. Like I

644
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: think the most important thing in the bowl games is

645
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: who's playing and how much of your offense slash defense

646
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 5: are you missing from the regular season, Because, let's be honest,

647
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: I could handicap UCLA's defense till I'm blue in the face.

648
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: They're one of the best defenses in college football. But

649
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: half of the guys that started on this year's team

650
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 5: aren't playing.

651
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Speaker 2: So what's the point of gone? So many are gone?

652
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, what's the point in analyzing all the numbers

653
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 5: that these guys collected throughout the course of the regular season.

654
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: They're not even playing in the game. It's like, it's

655
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 5: a very different handicap. You'll hear a lot of different

656
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 5: things come out of my mouth than you normally do

657
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: during the regular season. Went again, the efficiency and who

658
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: you're playing last week, the situation, it matters so much

659
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: more than the analytics in these games because the motivation

660
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: and the personnel is just it's drastically different. But to

661
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: Brian's original point, I am on Georgia Souther. The game

662
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: starts in about an hour plus, so you know, I

663
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 5: am on Georgia Southern and I laid three with them.

664
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: Ohio is missing a ton, right, Curtis works starting quarterback,

665
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: they're two leading running backs, Ben Goora and Allison. They're

666
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 5: leading receiver Miles Cross. None of them are playing in

667
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 5: this game. And Georgia Southern it was weird, weird, like

668
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 5: the line I got three and then it jumped to

669
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: three and a half and now it's back at three.

670
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: So maybe it's somebody really smart buying their position back

671
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: as Georgia Southern open as a dog, and you know,

672
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 5: the sharp money just hammered Georgia Southern for like a

673
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 5: week straight because of all the people from Ohio missing.

674
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: And another big thing in the bullseason I really like

675
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 5: to look at, guys, is what conference you play in,

676
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: especially early on Group of five conferences. There's a gap

677
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 5: between the MAC and the Sun Belt, which is what

678
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: this game right out of the shoot is, right, I

679
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: think the Sun Belt's way ahead of the MAC. So

680
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: you know, you can kind of grade where the conferences

681
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 5: are and you could use that as kind of a

682
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: measuring stick. But who's playing in this game really hard

683
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: to figure out. It's more important to talk about who's

684
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: not playing for most of these games.

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Speaker 3: Really fast shared. If you're a better that relies on

686
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: the nerd numbers, as you say, quite a bit, Yeah,

687
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Speaker 3: and the Bowl season is just a different animal with

688
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: opt outs and transfers and all that stuff, do you

689
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 3: pass on a lot more games because of that?

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Speaker 2: If that's a big part of your handicap.

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Speaker 5: I mean, personally, no, because I'm a degenerate. But yes,

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Speaker 5: if you're if you're very disciplined and you rely on

693
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Speaker 5: certain numbers to make bets and those numbers are not reliable,

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Speaker 5: then yes, But no, I bet on all these games

695
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: because you guys know me by now. I mean, this

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Speaker 5: is what we do.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: Eight man hit right, he's got to go fifty.

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Speaker 2: We're good. That's all we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: We got Rich Rodberger, Penn State All American NFL veteran.

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Speaker 3: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst does not no

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Speaker 5: No, Dave FSR, degenerate Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 3: I'm probably no coming up next the parlay platter. Huh,

706
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Speaker 3: Jared's not gonna sit the sweat out either right, yeah,

707
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Speaker 3: he's gonna kick right up or us right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: What do you have for us today?

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Speaker 5: Well, the college parlays did not go that well this year.

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00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,000
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Speaker 5: And these parlays can be fun, but again they are

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Speaker 5: not very profitable long term, so be careful with how

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00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400
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Speaker 5: into the NFL again. College didn't work out. And I

731
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: think this Broncos Lions game of the three games today

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00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 5: on the board in the NFL, I think this game

733
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 5: has the opportunity for the most points, the most explosion,

734
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 5: has the highest total on the board. I think it's

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00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 5: got the best quarterbacks and the best offensive weapons in

736
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: this game. So we're gonna target this game and we're

737
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 5: gonna do a same game parlay.

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Speaker 6: First, we're just.

739
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: Gonna buy a about a point and a half off

740
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 5: the total. We're gonna move it down to forty six

741
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: and a half. We're gonna bet the over, so over

742
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: forty six and a half Broncos Lions is the first leg.

743
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 5: And the part of this uh you know, offensive game

744
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: that I want to target is the tie. Because I

745
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 5: was a little harsh to the Iowah Hawkeys a couple

746
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 5: of weeks ago when I was in studio and Iowa

747
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: Sam wasn't too happy, but let's be.

748
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: Honest, it was deserved.

749
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna make up for it now and I'm

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00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: gonna pick an Iowa Hawk eye Sam Laporta to not

751
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: only find the end zone, but also get fifty yards

752
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 5: or more receiving. And if you parlay all those three

753
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 5: things together, over forty six and a half Broncos Lions

754
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: Sam Laporta, anytime touchdown, Sam Laporta fifty or more receiving

755
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 5: yards in the game, it is plus three fifty. Again,

756
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 5: you could bet that right now over at bed Mgym.

757
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 5: But the Broncos, it's not a very complicated handing gap, guys.

758
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 5: The Broncos really struggled to defend tight ends thirtieth and

759
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 5: dvoa their bottom five and all the yards counting stats,

760
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: you know, receptions and all that stuff. And Laporta has

761
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: been kind of the guy for this Lions team in

762
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: the red zone. He scored a touchdown in four out

763
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 5: of six home games this year, So pretty simple handicapped. Today,

764
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: we're hoping for points in the Motor City, hoping that

765
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 5: Sam Laporta has a good game like him.

766
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam Laporta smashing tight end, touchdown and receiving yardage

767
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 4: and receptions, franchise records over there in Detroit. It's pretty

768
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: amazing when you think about the rejuvenation that Jared Goff

769
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: has had in Detroit because he was part of that

770
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: trade where everybody was like, wow, well the Rams won that.

771
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 4: They went on and you know, they won their Super Bowl.

772
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: But quietly, Jared Goff has put up video game numbers

773
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: with Ben Johnson there in Detroit, so see if they

774
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: can finish off this season strong there.

775
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: Offensively, man, what a year for the Broncos in general

776
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: where they start off losing five of six and then

777
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: they flip flop it and they've won six of seven.

778
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: And then specifically their defense. Think about Week three, they

779
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: give up seventy points to the Dolphins and they've righted

780
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: the ship. As of late, yup, they give up right

781
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: around twenty sometimes less than that. They've given up twelve

782
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: to the Brown, seven to the Charge. So it's a

783
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: crazy year for the Broncos. I hear you, Jared, and

784
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: I know where you're coming from. On the handicap they

785
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: struggle against defending tight ends. But yeah, I'm just pointing

786
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: out it's been a flip flop season in general wins

787
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: and losses for the Broncos, and also defensively, it's been

788
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: a strange year.

789
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, vance Joseph's done a really good job. I think,

790
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 5: you know, you give him a lot of credit. Obviously,

791
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: they'd bring in Sean Payton, who's more of an offensive mind.

792
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 5: And if you were gonna ask me, would you rather

793
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: hire an offensive or a defensive minded head coach, the

794
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: answer is always offensive minded head coach, because I just

795
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: think certain guys, like a Fangio right down there in Miami,

796
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: they are the head coach of the defense and it's

797
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 5: kind of its own element, and the offensive minded head

798
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: coaches seem to do a better job managing the game,

799
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 5: whereas defensive minded head coaches, they're off in the corner.

800
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 5: They're trying to fire up their guys and they're getting

801
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: ready for the next series.

802
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: They don't want to have to worry about all that

803
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 6: other stuff.

804
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 5: So you give Vance Joseph a ton of credit. And

805
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: you're right, this Broncos defense has been really good. But

806
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, this could be a sneaky shootout today

807
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 5: because Golf's coming off that bad game in Chicago. He

808
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 5: doesn't like playing outdoors. Now he's back on the fast

809
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: track indoors and Russell Wilson, the Courtland Sutton connection has

810
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: been hot and heavy. Jerry Judy gives you these flashes sometimes,

811
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: and they're running the ball pretty well. So this Broncos

812
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: team is a little dangerous right now. I don't know

813
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 5: if I'm all in on Detroit today at home. I

814
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: think Denver might pick this one close.

815
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: I like that side in this game.

816
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: If I was forced to pick a side of like

817
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: the Broncos, I think taking the points is a smart play.

818
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: Today the third straight road game for the Broncos.

819
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: Ooh, you know, focused Lions team losing two of three,

820
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: so careful. Coming up next, the student takes on the

821
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Speaker 3: teacher tonight, we'll get into it. Oh, what's going on

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Speaker 3: Week fifteen in the NFL. Let's get after it. Less

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Speaker 3: to the student. Dan Campbell, Lions head coach taking on

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Speaker 3: the teacher, which would be Sean Payton, the Broncos head coach.

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Speaker 3: That was Dan Campbell's mentor. He was an assistant under

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton with the Saints for a number of years.

834
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: So we'll get to that matchup momentarily here. But how

835
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 3: about this Steelers against the Colts. That's the middle game

836
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: of the tripleheader here today in the NFL, And man,

837
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: what a what a difference the last couple of games

838
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: makes for the Steelers. They lose at home to the

839
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals and then turn around and lose at home

840
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: to the Patriots. You look at those two teams combined,

841
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: they are six and twenty. That's who the Steelers lost to,

842
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: and back to back. And let's see, like thirty three

843
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: percent of those wins was against the Steelers last week.

844
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: Right, They've got six wins on the season.

845
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: Two of those were against the Steelers the last two weeks.

846
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: They got to get back on track because what seemed

847
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: to be for sure another winning season for Mike Tomlin,

848
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: it's not a sure thing anymore.

849
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: No, definitely not on shaky territory there and Indianapolis a

850
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: tough place to play, Lucas Soil Stadium not given enough

851
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: credit for how loud it gets in there when this

852
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 4: team has a fighting chance in the playoffs and having

853
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: a road venue that you have to go to and

854
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 4: perform at a high rate with your backup quarterback in look,

855
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: Mitchell Trubisky came in originally as a bridge quarterback for

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00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett.

857
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: I think that they were all.

858
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: More hopeful that Matt Canada's approach and Mitchell Trubisky's talents

859
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: would have taken them farther last season before Kenny Pickett

860
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 4: had to take over.

861
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: But it didn't.

862
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: So Kenny Pickett kind of got foisted into action and

863
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: he didn't look ready at all, and frankly, he still doesn't.

864
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett, I mean, he's never materialized as a franchise quarterback.

865
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 4: Now it's only been parts of two seasons now and

866
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: again injured. So it's Mitchell Trubisky's show again. It's gonna

867
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 4: be no different. It doesn't matter who's the coordinator in Pittsburgh.

868
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 4: It's just, hey, can we play good enough defense? Can

869
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 4: we quiet down this venue for long enough to operate

870
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: offensively so we don't make the mistake that kills us

871
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: and we don't go home with an owl.

872
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, my numbers sake Colts in this game pretty decisively,

873
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: but the market does not like that play that much.

874
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: And again, you get to this point in the season

875
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 5: and the NFL markets, the public kind of has their

876
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: say a little bit more because the games matter more

877
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: and more the later in the year we get, especially

878
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 5: when we get to the playoffs, like the last couple

879
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: of weeks, they're very heavily bet games. So you can

880
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 5: kind of, you know, see the forest through the trees

881
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: a little bit with where the market's pointing you, and

882
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 5: the market in this game is pointing me towards.

883
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 6: The Steelers, but I don't agree with that.

884
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing here, guys,

885
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: because this number has gotten shorter throughout the week, despite

886
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: the fact that a lot of people are betting the Colts,

887
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: and the obvious answer says, well, it's Mitchell Trubisky on

888
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: the road.

889
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 6: Let's not overthink this, guys.

890
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: Do we think he is going to walk into Lucas

891
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: Oil Stadium and orchestrate a victory? Because I think the

892
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 5: Colts offense. Now you could say maybe the line movement

893
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: was a little bit based off of the Jonathan Taylor

894
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: news and that's a fair assessment. But to move down

895
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: from two and a half to one and a half

896
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 5: based off of a running back that's been in and

897
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: out of the lineup all year and hasn't played that

898
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: well even when he has been on the field is

899
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: a stretch. So am I missing something here with Pittsburgh

900
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 5: because their defense has been kind of up and down.

901
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 6: I think I think that's kind.

902
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 5: Of the the you know, the the strategy or you know,

903
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: the script for them today, Like they're gonna have to

904
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: make a couple of plays defensively to get Gardner Minshew

905
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 5: off the spot because I don't think this can be

906
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: a Mitchell Trubisky game.

907
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I think it's possible with the Colt secondary,

908
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: right Like, yeah, maybe we get a little mooth. I

909
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: love that, my favorite with Friar mooth. You love that

910
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: with Penn State guys, right there, might have that at

911
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: Lucas Oil today. But it's like the Steelers have the

912
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 3: receivers and the tight end to move the ball through

913
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: the air.

914
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: It's just yeh, can Mitch not be bad Mitch today? Right?

915
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: Like?

916
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is think about this too, Jared

917
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: and and rich Is. Take a take a guy like

918
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: Jake Browning, you know, the Bengals quarterback right there, when

919
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: he played against Jacksonville, he lit it up and in

920
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: the post game he was like, yeah, it was it

921
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: was good to get a game under my belt. You know,

922
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: get a week of practice. That can make a big difference.

923
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: So if you think about Mitchell Trubisky having so many

924
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: more starts, I think oftentimes we just expect you throw

925
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: them into the game and let's go. Let's go time

926
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: man zero to sixty. What are we waiting for it here?

927
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: But you give it a start or two, and then

928
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: you might see a different version, a better version of

929
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: that quarterback. So that's something I would keep in mind.

930
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: Today.

931
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: You might see a better version of Mitch. I'm not

932
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: saying it's gonna be all world, but it could be

933
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: a better version than what we've seen the last couple

934
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: of weeks.

935
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: The other thing you gotta be if you're the Colts

936
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: offense against this Steelers defense is just Johnny on the

937
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: spot with the run game. So the Steelers actually have

938
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: led up a lot of rushing yards over the season.

939
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: Like it's it's kind of an odd thing. To think

940
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: of the Steelers not really shutting down the ground game,

941
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: but they haven't really been able to this year. They're

942
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: like a bottom third or close to a bottom third

943
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: team in terms of run yards allowed per game. So

944
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: if you can get it going on the ground, support

945
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew in that way, like you, you can end

946
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: up slowing this game down against a quality opponent that

947
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: you're hosting, keep the crowd involved, and and this could

948
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: be one of those nights for the Colts where you

949
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: go against Look as Shane steich In Garden Minsche, Gardner

950
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: Minshew pairing against Mike Tomlin, you would assume, all right,

951
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: well that's that's looking like an l in the preseason. However,

952
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: here we are, and I gotta be honest with you,

953
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 4: it almost doesn't matter what quarterback you're starting for the Steelers.

954
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: I'm I'm leaning my trust leans toward the Colts. So

955
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Jared, like I know that you kind

956
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: of have to hold your nose and pick the Colts,

957
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: but but I feel more comfortable throwing in with that

958
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: lot than I do with Mitchell Trubisky and and Mike Tomlin.

959
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's where I am on this. I

960
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: think I get to this stage in the season and

961
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 5: I have a couple of really good sources where I

962
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: get my numbers from.

963
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: These are rating.

964
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: Services that have performed well historically over the last few years,

965
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: and I'm consistent with how I kind of go about

966
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 5: my process. And early in the year they don't mean

967
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: as much like I don't know what I'm really looking

968
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 5: at with a lot of these numbers. Now in week fifteen,

969
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 5: I have a much better sense of where these numbers are.

970
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 6: The numbers are pretty decisive today towards Indy.

971
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: And that's despite the line movement going towards Pittsburgh. That's

972
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 5: despite the fact that our you know, our natural fade,

973
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: the public vibe is to go against that. Everyone's betting

974
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 5: the Colts today. But my number says Indy. So at

975
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 5: one and a half, it says Indy even more. And

976
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna buck that just because

977
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: of a few public you know, yocals that want to

978
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: bet the Colts today. I just have to hope that

979
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 5: the number is right. I think India is the play

980
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 5: for me here. I think I'm probably gonna lay one

981
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: and a half.

982
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 2: With the Colts. By the way, Big Ben ro the Sperger.

983
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

984
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: So this was after the Patriots loss last week, granted

985
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: it was a bad loss. Yeah, and he said, a

986
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: maybe the tradition of the Pittsburgh Steelers is done. Maybe

987
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: that's what we're looking at.

988
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 5: Over he wants to be in on the air, And

989
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: I get it. You gotta make splashes if you want

990
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: to be on TV. And he wants to he wants it.

991
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 5: I think that's fine. And he got some attention for that.

992
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: He did.

993
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: He got attention because that's a stupid take. They don't

994
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: have a quarterback. Okay, it's not like the tradition is done,

995
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 3: all right, they need a QB and the tradition is revitalized.

996
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: Okay, there's no tradition. That's every team is.

997
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 6: One quarterback away.

998
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: Guys.

999
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 6: Let's be honest.

1000
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: Every single team in this league is one. Even the

1001
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 5: Jets are an Aaron Rodgers away from being an elite team.

1002
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: It's it's so true.

1003
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a quarterback in this league, especially these days,

1004
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: the way they protect quarterbacks receivers, like if you if

1005
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: you strike it rich at quarterback, well there should be

1006
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: close to no reason why you shouldn't have success and

1007
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: be a perennial playoff team, which is the reason why

1008
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: Brandon Staley was fired this week, because when you have

1009
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 4: a special talent like Justin Herbert, and you know, you

1010
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: get mopped up in the postseason in the second half

1011
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 4: against the Jags last year, and then you miss the

1012
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: postseason the next season, it's just unthinkable because.

1013
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: It's not easy.

1014
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: I'm not claiming that anybody can do it, but it

1015
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: gets a lot easier if you have a talented quarterback

1016
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 4: like a Justin Herbert or a Joe Burrow or Jalen

1017
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: Hurtz or you know, Patrick Mahomes go down the list.

1018
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: So that's where the bar is set.

1019
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers right now they're playing with

1020
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: and it's their own fault. They're the ones who took

1021
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett in the first round. They're the ones who

1022
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: kind of allowed Ben Roethlisberger to age on the vine

1023
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: the way he did instead of, you know, maybe taking

1024
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 4: a look at and uncomfortable situation like Aaron Rodgers being

1025
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 4: drafted before Brett Farve has done, Jordan Love being drafted

1026
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: before Aaron Rodgers is done.

1027
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: I understand it's gonna be kind of an odd.

1028
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 4: Couple of years there, but there's a time to start

1029
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: thinking that way. And the Pittsburgh Steelers never really made

1030
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: their exit playing with Roethlisberger.

1031
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 6: No, and guys, let's be honest.

1032
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 5: I mean every single you mentioned it, Every single team

1033
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 5: in this league is a quarterback away. And you watch

1034
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 5: these games every single Sunday, Saturday, Today, Thursday, you know,

1035
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: on earlier this week Monday, you can just tell, like

1036
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: you just know going into the game what kind of

1037
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 5: game it's going to be based off of the two quarterbacks.

1038
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 5: Like I joked on Thursday, I'm just here to watch

1039
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 5: Easton Stick like that was a real thing on Thursday.

1040
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 5: And God bless him, you know, is his parents have

1041
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: a sense of humor. His last name was Stick and

1042
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 5: they named him after the hockey brand Easton.

1043
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1044
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 5: But it is comical in a sense that every week

1045
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 5: in the NFL now we are getting the Aid and

1046
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 5: O'Connell Easton Stick matchups, the Desmond Ritter versus any order.

1047
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 6: Back in the NFC South matchups, the you know, the.

1048
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: Nick Mullins Jake Browning matchups today, Like the league is

1049
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 5: so devoid of good quarterback.

1050
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 6: Talent right now.

1051
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: It is a lot of middle tiered backup quality guys

1052
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 5: starting and if a team lucks into one of these guys,

1053
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: like if kleboy, like we're gonna hear in the next

1054
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: two months after the Super Bowl, We're gonna talk for

1055
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: two months about Drake May versus Kayleb Williams. That is

1056
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 5: going to be the discussion over the next two months.

1057
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 6: I don't know which one.

1058
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 5: Like we were all poop poo and Will Levis. I

1059
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: think Will Levis I was the best of all the

1060
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 5: rookie quarterbacks.

1061
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: I was the one guy. What about I was. I

1062
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: was not on c but I was.

1063
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: I was on the Will Levis Express and the world

1064
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: was against.

1065
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: Me on you were right, you were right because he

1066
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 5: looks like the best of all of them.

1067
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: He does well. I mean, you take him over C. J.

1068
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: Stroud to say, I got a lot of heat for

1069
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 5: this yesterday.

1070
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 6: I would.

1071
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 5: And here's why I think. I think Levis is a

1072
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 5: little more durable. I think he's bigger, stronger, and the

1073
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 5: guys starting today, he's the only one that's the I mean,

1074
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 5: I guess Bryce Young technically starting this week, but it's

1075
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 5: obvious that he's kind of not the guy, right. I

1076
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 5: think it's close between Stroud and Levis to me, But

1077
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: it's just I think Levis a little more durable, a

1078
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: little bigger, a little stronger, a little more fit for

1079
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 5: the rugged NFL, rough and tough.

1080
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: Hey, And I like that.

1081
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 3: Mike vrabel is like Will, you can't bowl over linebackers

1082
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 3: and strong safeties and expect to remain upright in the NFL.

1083
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 3: So I like how he's keeping him in the only difference.

1084
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 6: I think Stroud's fantastic.

1085
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 5: I think they're very close, But I think Will Levis

1086
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 5: is a little bit more body fit for the NFL,

1087
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 5: if that makes sense.

1088
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: No interesting, Wow, I know.

1089
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 6: Oh, I got a lot of heat yesterday on this.

1090
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 5: Well, I forward thinking I wanted to crown Levis the

1091
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 5: rookie the year, which is not what I'm saying, because

1092
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 5: you know, he hasn't played enough games. But if you

1093
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 5: ask me today, you can only have one going forward,

1094
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 5: you have to pick one. Also, Levis a second round pick.

1095
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: He's much cheaper, that's obviously, you know.

1096
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But but I mean in the grand scheme

1097
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: of things, not by all that much, you know, in

1098
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things.

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00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: And then the other side of it is I actually

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00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: think CJ.

1101
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: Stroud projects better from a health standpoint, because I think

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00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: it'll be able to protect himself.

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00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: That's fair, That is that is a very that's a

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 5: very bigger, bigger, bigger part of will Levis's game is

1105
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 5: you know those plays that have well.

1106
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 4: Haven't gotten him in trouble yet, but could potentially down

1107
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 4: the line get his health into trouble.

1108
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: Whereas c J.

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00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 4: Stroud is a you know, just ice in his veins,

1110
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 4: operating from the pocket type sniper.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, close, there's not a big gap between those

1112
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 5: two guys in my eyes, but just the little hair.

1113
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 5: I like what I've seen from Levis Moxie.

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Speaker 3: Seamus McGee. Yeah, no days off, no games off.

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Speaker 2: That's right, might get some FCS plays.

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Speaker 3: Who know, hopefully he laid the points with the jack

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Speaker 3: Rabbits last night. Holy hell Albany right, Rick Wall fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.

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00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: But follow the money, real good money.

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00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at BEDMGM. Seamus,

1155
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm hoping you laid whatever the jack Rabbits were favored

1156
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: by last night, as they won fifty nine to nothing

1157
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: in the FCS playoffs.

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 7: I did it. Unfortunately, I had my eyes focused on

1159
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 7: some college troops last night. But I mean, they're Juggernaut.

1160
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 7: There's no one. I don't think there's anyone on the

1161
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 7: plane who can stop them right now in FCS.

1162
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I was watching that game, and I had

1163
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 5: a lot of sharp people, give me Albany and plus

1164
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 5: ten in the first half and plus twenty in the game,

1165
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: and it closed, I think eighteen and I think The

1166
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 5: first text I got was sdak by forty from one

1167
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 5: of those people, So it didn't work out that well.

1168
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 7: It's tough man to go on the road so many

1169
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 7: times in the playoff format that they have and just

1170
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 7: keep winning against teams like that. It's just so hard.

1171
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 6: I agree.

1172
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 5: Let's get to the NFL today, because again we get

1173
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 5: to this point of the season. You guys are pretty

1174
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 5: good with your numbers. I would say you're better than

1175
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 5: most than most of the people betting it, and you

1176
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 5: get these kind of interesting line moves, like, for the

1177
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: life of me, I don't know who's betting Pittsburgh today

1178
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: Mitchell Trubisky on the road, but that line's come down

1179
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of handle coming in the cold,

1180
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 5: so clearly there's someone really smart betting the Steelers.

1181
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, very interesting. We've definitely some sharp money on Pittsburgh today.

1182
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 7: And yeah, like you said, right now, it looks like

1183
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 7: we're gonna need the Steelers, so wow, looks like we're

1184
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 7: gonna be We're going to be on the same shot,

1185
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 7: the same side as the Sharps. But yeah, definitely interesting.

1186
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 7: I with you there. I don't know how anyone's spent

1187
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 7: in the Steelers given the last few weeks.

1188
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of feel similarly about this Broncos

1189
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: Lions matchup, Detroit hosting dem or I don't know.

1190
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if this was a pick them, like you know,

1191
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: if I.

1192
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: Throw away whatever we know about the line movement or

1193
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: points pre Actually I don't think the line budged an inch,

1194
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: but I think I would take the Broncos on the

1195
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: money line here. Uh, it just it just it's kind

1196
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 4: of shocking that they're getting four points.

1197
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: What gives?

1198
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I tend to fall on the same boat,

1199
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 7: especially the way the Broncos have been playing. But like

1200
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 7: I come on here all the time and tell you guys,

1201
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 7: you know in state of Michigan, they love their teams. Yeah,

1202
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 7: no different this week on the spread. Interesting, I've seen

1203
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 7: a lot of money on the minus four and a half.

1204
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 7: Some people bought down to four, so we're gonna get

1205
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 7: the Broncos. I kind of like it. These lines have

1206
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 7: the book great, and you know, the Broncos have been

1207
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 7: playing some wheel get football, so that should be that's

1208
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 7: definitely the best game of the day. Should be a good.

1209
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: One, Seamus.

1210
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: When you look at Week fifteen collectively in terms of

1211
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: the money coming in which team does? It seem like

1212
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: the Sharps are on most at this point.

1213
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 7: Every week, I don't know what it is. Sharp money

1214
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 7: comes in on the Jets. I mean this week is

1215
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 7: a little different because you know there's an uncertainty with

1216
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill, but they've been a sharp team. Yeah, it's

1217
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 7: you know, the Bears have been taking a couple of

1218
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 7: sharp bets. They've looked pretty decent. But the Titans got

1219
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 7: to be. I mean with the Shroud News, they've moved

1220
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 7: from a point and a half to three now, they've

1221
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 7: certainly been a sharp side. And then Yelp Giants moved

1222
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 7: off a flat six to five and a half now,

1223
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 7: so they've been a sharp side as well with Tommy DeVito.

1224
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, again, you look at these NFL sides and it's

1225
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 5: almost odd, Like it almost smacks me in the face

1226
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 5: most weeks, Seamus, what is the and I'm using my

1227
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: air quotes here for the radio audience, the sharp side,

1228
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 5: And a lot of times the sharp side just doesn't

1229
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 5: matter because kind of extenuating circumstance, you know, kind of

1230
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 5: peeps its way into the market. I guess the other

1231
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 5: one that really stood out to me this week, and

1232
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: this is my favorite player of the week is the

1233
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills. And again, I think the number doesn't really

1234
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 5: show you what the full story like if you were

1235
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 5: just basing it on the recent form. Dallas should be

1236
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: favored in this game, right but they're not, And that

1237
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: kind of tells me where the market is.

1238
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 7: It's crazy too, because the market is absolutely loved the

1239
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I have like four or five weeks,

1240
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 7: so it is interesting to see them. You see the

1241
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 7: market move off that one and a half to of

1242
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 7: two where we're at right now, this is gonna be

1243
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 7: probably the biggest hand the weekend of the week. I

1244
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 7: mean pretty even coming in on the money line right now,

1245
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 7: which is good to see on our end. But while

1246
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 7: on the spread, we're seeing a lot of Bills money

1247
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 7: come in on the minus two and the minus two

1248
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 7: and a half. You're gonna You're gonna have a lot

1249
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 7: of people tease this up to three. But I think

1250
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 7: on the spread, well, the Cowboys are probably gonna be

1251
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 7: de sucking.

1252
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: We need more of a general question about prop bets

1253
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 4: this time a year. I have a theory that I

1254
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 4: want to run past you and Jared Smith a little

1255
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: bit here.

1256
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: You know this all right? Hang on, hang on?

1257
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: You know what, Actually, you're a good person asked, because

1258
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 5: that's more props than I do.

1259
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: I honestly think Brian, that's more prop bets.

1260
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 5: Brian's probably the biggest prop DJ on the show.

1261
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: It's actually and I've been getting more into it and

1262
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 4: all of a sudden between last year and this year,

1263
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: what I'm noticing, and maybe this is just a trend

1264
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: on players that I'm specifically looking at and cherry picking,

1265
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 4: but the receivers late in the season, especially ones who

1266
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: make a fuss at some point like today. An example

1267
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 4: would be like a George Pickens right where the Steelers.

1268
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: They they may not have a legit shot of making

1269
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 4: the postseason or at very least a deep postseason run,

1270
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: but one thing that has to happen is they got

1271
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: to keep George Pickens happy. So are there some like

1272
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: late season trends you could catch on in terms of

1273
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 4: props where you could start to say, like, yeah, you

1274
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: know what, maybe the season overall from a team standpoint

1275
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 4: is somewhat lost, but you gotta keep your chickens happy, right,

1276
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: you know, in order to be a happy farmer, you

1277
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 4: gotta have happy chickens laying eggs. So you gotta get

1278
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 4: these guys some yards. You gotta get these guys some

1279
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: looks in the end zone.

1280
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: Is that?

1281
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: Is that a way to go later in the season,

1282
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 4: more narrative driven production to receivers.

1283
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 7: I mean anywhere anywhere you think you can have an edge.

1284
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 7: I mean that's something you gotta you gotta try to

1285
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 7: exploit the best of you can late in the season.

1286
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 7: I mean, you guys, I'm sure you talk about this

1287
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 7: when we get to week eighteen, where's you you have

1288
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 7: the contract incentives that uh you know, coach that.

1289
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 6: I love that angle so much.

1290
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 7: Like a narrative like that where it's like, oh, this

1291
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 7: guy's making a fuss on the sideline. I think you

1292
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 7: got you honestly see that the whole year, Like you

1293
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 7: saw with aj Brown, like earlier in the year, like

1294
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 7: the first like two games he made. The next game

1295
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 7: he went off for like one hundred and fifty yards.

1296
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 7: So I think I think it's certainly an angle, but

1297
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 7: I think it's it's it's one you can play most

1298
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 7: of the year.

1299
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: Honestly, Well, how.

1300
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: Do we get rich today? What's the shame of special?

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we got some college hoops North Dakota State.

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Speaker 7: It's a loaded hoops slate. There's another f there's more

1303
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 7: scs today, but I'd be remiss if I didn't, you know,

1304
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 7: give props to my my near and dear friend, coach

1305
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 7: Jerry Keill over at New Mexico State. That is. I

1306
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 7: bet this team a lot over the last three years,

1307
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 7: and this is this is such a big moment for them.

1308
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 7: Probvious playing in the game. I think you got to

1309
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 7: lay the points of New Mexico State here pretty much

1310
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 7: a home game in Albuquerque. It's a big deal for

1311
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 7: this team. I think they're going to really really go

1312
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 7: for it today.

1313
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 5: Love it okay late two and a half, a couple

1314
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,959
Speaker 5: of weeks like last week, and then I'm probably gonna

1315
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 5: bet it. I'll give it out probably again this morning, guys,

1316
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 5: so you should bet that one.

1317
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: I love this so much.

1318
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: Well shamous, enjoy it man Week fifteen all the hoops

1319
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: action and we'll catch you next week. Man, Thanks for

1320
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: your time.

1321
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

1322
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: There he is Seamus McGee from bet MGM. I wonder

1323
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 3: what his like TV layout at his place looks.

1324
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 6: I think I've seen it yet.

1325
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 5: I do ask for pictures of people setups because I

1326
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: like inspiration. Oh yeah, your setups of mine? My my

1327
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 5: pal's over. There's a there's a sports gambling podcast that

1328
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 5: does a weekly show here in Vegas, and they have

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Speaker 5: a really good setup in their little command center. Shout

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01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: out those guys that they're still listening. But it the

1331
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 5: setup is key, right, you gotta have like I literally

1332
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 5: call it a command center.

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Speaker 3: I just think the progression of life is hilarious. Where

1334
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: shared as a younger guy, it's like, hey, girl, let

1335
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: me see what you're wearing, you know, And now it's hey,

1336
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 3: let me see what your TV set looks like.

1337
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Speaker 4: I just I picture I'm slipping into the dms of other.

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Speaker 5: Guys sent picks picks, the picks and picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah nice.

1340
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 3: We've got Isaac Low and Crown, who is going to

1341
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: crush it because he knows no other way of living.

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Speaker 2: He's got the latest for you. I love what's going on.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure I'll be able to after that. The

1344
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 8: last thirty seconds of that discussion, I will say, it's

1345
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 8: so exciting to be president at the birth of a

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 8: new phobia. I might add, I'm just kidding. You're actually

1347
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 8: more accurate than you would think and those command centers

1348
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 8: across the country will be busy today because we've got

1349
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Speaker 8: three NFL games plus the start of college football bowl season.

1350
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 8: The NFL Action kicking off at one pm Eastern, first

1351
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 8: game of a triple header, the Cincinnati Bengals hosting the

1352
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 8: Minnesota Vikings, both teams seven and six. That'll be followed

1353
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 8: by the Colts hosting the Steelers, both those teams also

1354
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 8: seven and six, and then tonight in the nightcap, the

1355
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 8: Denver bronco is visiting the Detroit Lions. Lions backup quarterback

1356
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 8: Teddy Bridgewater told the Detroit Free Press that he plans

1357
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 8: to retire after this season and become a high school

1358
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 8: football coach in the NBA. On Friday night, Jalen Brunson

1359
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 8: of the Knicks scored a career high fifty and their

1360
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 8: one thirty nine one twenty two win at Phoenix. He

1361
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 8: was seventeen of twenty three from the field, twelve out

1362
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 8: of twelve in the second half and for the game,

1363
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 8: nine of nine from three point range. The Philadelphia seventy

1364
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 8: six ers over the Detroit Pistons one twenty four to

1365
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 8: ninety two. That's a franchise record twenty two consecutive losses

1366
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 8: for the Pistons. The NBA single season record is twenty six.

1367
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 8: The San Antonio Spurs broke an eighteen game losing streak

1368
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 8: with a one twenty nine one fifteen win over the

1369
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 8: Los Angeles Lakers, who played without Anthony Davis because of

1370
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 8: a hip injury. And coming up at the top of

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01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 8: the hour, college football bowl season kicking off with the

1372
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 8: Myrtle Beach Bowl from South Carolina. It'll be Ohio at

1373
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 8: nine and three against Georgia's Southern Fellas.

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Speaker 3: if you look at the College Bowl slates over here,

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Speaker 3: we get it started in what less than minutes?

1383
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1384
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 3: Ready, yeah yeah, get ready? Get crazy over here as

1385
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: we what are we looking at here? Myrtle Beach Ball?

1386
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: That's right, I'm.

1387
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 5: Ass for that game, two wagers on it already.

1388
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: Look at you, this is start off in style, You're

1389
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: I love that for you.

1390
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 6: I'm a CEO.

1391
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: So if you look at all these games, right, we've

1392
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: got forty one games of the eighty two Bowl teams,

1393
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: twenty one have a record of six and six. Think

1394
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: about that. That's over a quarter of the bull participants

1395
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: at five hundred. So with that sort of like, yeah, backdrop,

1396
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 3: what are you most looking forward to outside of the

1397
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: playoff games?

1398
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: Right?

1399
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: Put this semi final playoff games to the side. Obviously

1400
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 3: we're geeked for those. But what is it? Is it

1401
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 3: Florida State, Georgia, is it Ohio State, Missouri? What's the

1402
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: non playoff matchup that most interests you?

1403
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: That's such a great question question, you know.

1404
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 4: Okay, So ball season used to be very meaningful, obviously,

1405
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: and a lot of that meaning has dissipated as a

1406
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,520
Speaker 4: result of transfer, portal and coaches becoming way more comfortable

1407
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 4: abandoning their teams for bigger paychecks at better programs. And

1408
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 4: I don't begrudge either side. I think as a player,

1409
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 4: you've got a very small window that's open for a

1410
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 4: very short amount of time. I'm and and with name,

1411
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 4: image and likeness, money to be made.

1412
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: I mean, you can legitimately set.

1413
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 4: Yourself up for life if you if you parlay some

1414
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: of your talent into real cash at the college football level,

1415
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: and then, frankly, the same could be said as a

1416
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: head coach in the NFL. I mean, or excuse me,

1417
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 4: at the college football level, like how often does the

1418
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: window open where you can sort.

1419
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: Of pick your path?

1420
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 4: You know a lot of times you know you're following

1421
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 4: head coaches, you know, or you know some guy gets

1422
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 4: fired and it's not necessarily your fault, but you're you're

1423
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 4: taken out with a regime change.

1424
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: When you're a head coach, you got to strike while

1425
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: the irons hot too.

1426
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 4: So bole season, I gotta be honest with you outside

1427
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 4: the postseason, or I should say, outside the playoff games.

1428
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: Not a lot of.

1429
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: These matchups create like like a ton of excitement for

1430
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: me anymore.

1431
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: Like it's really it's gotten.

1432
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 4: To the point where we'll see what happens with the

1433
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: expanded playoffs. I hope that encourages everybody to stay put

1434
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 4: and play and see if they can buy for a

1435
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: national championship game. But I'm not one hundred percent sold

1436
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 4: that that's going to be the case either. And I'm

1437
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 4: sure we'll be crossing that bridge very shortly here in

1438
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: the national conversation.

1439
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: But but man oh man.

1440
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, there's not a lot of excitement from me

1441
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: now from a betting standpoint, there are definitely lines that

1442
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 4: I could get all over, and from that aspect, I

1443
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 4: could get excited, But just in terms of pure matchups,

1444
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, Brian, it's missing me

1445
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 4: this year.

1446
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 6: I agree one hundred percent.

1447
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 5: I think Bowl season right now has become a better's

1448
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 5: paradise because of the volatility involved with the rosters, and

1449
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 5: it involve get For example, I have bets on games

1450
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 5: like I was making bets on Bowl games like three

1451
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 5: weeks out, like I was betting the I bet Ohio.

1452
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 6: State money line.

1453
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 5: I bet a couple of the other games that are

1454
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 5: two three weeks away, and just because where the markets moved,

1455
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 5: so from a bet perspective, every single game on the

1456
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 5: card could be intriguing to me if the right price

1457
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 5: pops up. But let's take that, Let's remove that from

1458
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 5: the equation here, because the DJN mode only goes so

1459
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 5: far to Brian's original question, and to Rich's point, the

1460
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 5: ball season has become a bit of an afterthought for

1461
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 5: the casual college football fan because the games have gotten

1462
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 5: weird and wacky, the Male Bowl and the Potato Bowl

1463
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 5: and all the weird sponsors and the gronk La Bowl.

1464
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 5: Like it's hard for the average college football fan to

1465
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 5: keep up with all of that. And then you get

1466
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 5: these just trash matchups in these games with half of

1467
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,520
Speaker 5: the rosters gone and so from again, from a fandom perspective,

1468
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 5: there's not a whole lot of meat on the bone.

1469
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 5: And I'll give you that Ohio State game as a

1470
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 5: perfect example. Missouri opens as an underdog. Everyone in their

1471
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 5: mom on Ohio State's not playing in the game. Now

1472
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 5: Ohio State's the dog, and you look at that game

1473
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 5: and you're like, is Ohio State gonna be up for

1474
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 5: that game? And this is Ohio State we're talking. We

1475
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 5: are questioning Ohio State's you know, motivation in a football

1476
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 5: game because of what this bull season has become. So

1477
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 5: it is taught from a fanom perspective, but betting wise,

1478
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 5: I mean, every game on the board is interesting to me.

1479
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: It's one of those two where I had a flashback

1480
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: to Ohio State where against Utah in the Rose Bowl,

1481
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 3: isn't it where a couple of their top flight wide

1482
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 3: receivers sat out and a couple other top flight receivers played.

1483
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,919
Speaker 3: Like what it was it Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson

1484
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: sat out and then you got the Jackson Smith and

1485
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: Jigba experience and it's just like these guys just freaking reload.

1486
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,959
Speaker 3: So that's what gets really tricky. Also, where the tendency

1487
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: is to think, oh, these big name guys are out

1488
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: and it's just backups. Give me the other team, and

1489
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: every now and then these backups are really freaking good.

1490
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: So it gets really tricky. I'm with you guys from

1491
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: a betting standpoint, it is very intriguing these bowl games.

1492
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: But if you're just.

1493
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: Looking at it, where all right, as a football fan,

1494
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: are you fired up for I don't know, Jack Penn States, Yeah,

1495
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: it's like that's ranked versus rank. Think about that number ten,

1496
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 3: Penn State, number eleven Old Miss and it's.

1497
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: Like I'll check it out. But you know, yeah, that's

1498
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: how it feels.

1499
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy, we've we've crossed a threshold and we

1500
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 4: knew we were going to hit this eventually and something

1501
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 4: has to be adjusted. And I'm sure at some point

1502
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 4: something will be adjusted. But it's just it's it's not

1503
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 4: it's not good.

1504
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 2: I mean it is.

1505
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 4: It is unsettling to turn on a football game and

1506
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 4: see nobody you recognize this is the problem. This is

1507
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 4: the problem in the NBA load management, right, it's happening

1508
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 4: at the college football level.

1509
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

1510
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: Hey, bet MGM is now available under one wallet in

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1516
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 3: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No coming up next,

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1536
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 2: Prop it up player plays.

1537
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 3: So we walked down into our layer. We got the TVs,

1538
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: we got our computer screens, we got prop bets, goll lore.

1539
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: We'll start with you, Jared, what do you like?

1540
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 6: Well, let's go to this app State in Miam of

1541
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 6: the Ohio game. This is the Cure Bowl.

1542
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 5: It's being played in Orlando, Florida. And I got the

1543
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 5: weather report from Mama Mama bear down in Boca today.

1544
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 5: It's stormy in down in Florida this weekend, so keep

1545
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,959
Speaker 5: an eye on that Dolphins play of course on Sunday.

1546
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 5: But this game in Orlando could be a weather game,

1547
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 5: and we've already seen.

1548
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 6: The total drop like six points.

1549
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 5: So the one thing about prop bets the total might drop,

1550
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 5: but sometimes the prop market takes a little bit longer

1551
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 5: to catch up.

1552
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 6: So I think we're seeing still a.

1553
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 5: Little bit of value underwise with some of these Appalachian

1554
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 5: State offensive players, because miam Ohio's got like backups everywhere,

1555
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 5: but their defense is really good. But app State's quarterback

1556
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 5: Joey Aguilar under two to forty nine and a half

1557
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 5: passing yards I bet that last night at bet MGM

1558
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 5: and under one and a half passing touchdowns at plus money. Again,

1559
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: sometimes the prop markets don't catch up as quickly with

1560
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 5: the numbers dropping like the totals do, So maybe a

1561
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 5: little bit of value still the under being divide mine

1562
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 5: Ohio app State in the Cure Bowl because of some

1563
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 5: weather in Orlando today.

1564
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: All right, I'm all over wide receiver props today.

1565
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 4: I think that we're going to see a lot of

1566
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: a lot of offenses go off in general, but especially

1567
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 4: it's specifically focusing on a three different players. So Jordan Addison,

1568
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 4: I think is going to be used more as the

1569
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 4: downfield threat. I think Jefferson's going to be used as

1570
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: a decoy in this Minnesota game today. So look for

1571
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 4: Jordan Atherson going over his thirty seven and a half

1572
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 4: receiving prop in terms of yardage there. George Pickens with

1573
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: the Steelers. I know it's Mitchell Trubisky, but they gotta

1574
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 4: feed this guy. They gotta keep him happy. He was

1575
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: grumping earlier this season. He's been quiet lately, and it's

1576
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 4: because he's starting to get his forty four and a

1577
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 4: half is where his receiving yardage total is that I'm

1578
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 4: taking over there.

1579
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: In Courtland Sutton.

1580
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 4: He's at fifty four and a half receiving yards, but

1581
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 4: he has crushed that or sailed past that all season long.

1582
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 4: I don't think today is any different against this Indianapolis

1583
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 4: cold secondary. So for the Denver Broncos receiver, I'm taking

1584
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 4: the over on the fifty four and a half there

1585
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 4: as well.

1586
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: Did you say he's grumping, Yeah, grumpy? I like that, Like, yeah,

1587
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 3: he's grumping. AJ Brown, Philadelphia receiver. He's been grumping right,

1588
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: Like yeah, Defon Diggs has been grumping.

1589
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 2: That time, but I like that.

1590
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look too tomorrow. I got my eye on

1591
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders quarter Sam Howell. I'm gonna take over

1592
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 3: thirty eight and a half passing attempts. Brian Robinson is out,

1593
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 3: they're running back. He's banged up. Playing against the Rams team.

1594
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to match points with them. And Sam Howell,

1595
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 3: He's thrown over forty attempts in six of the last

1596
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: seven games. He broke that trend last week, but I

1597
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 3: think he gets back on track off the bye week.

1598
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: I think he puts it in the air a ton

1599
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 3: of times.

1600
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: I'll take over thirty eight and a half with Sam Howell.

1601
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 3: All right, We've got a lot more to do coming

1602
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: up next, the biggest and baddest games on the slate.

1603
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: We will dive into those. Right around the corner. Oh

1604
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,920
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Speaker 3: We got the Vikings and Bengals starting things off, and

1611
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: we also got a college ball They're about to tee

1612
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Speaker 3: it up here in a couple of minutes. We got

1613
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: a last second play from you, Jared. We got the

1614
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: Bobcats of Ohio against Georgia Southern.

1615
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: Anything we should jump on here.

1616
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 5: Late's theme was on Ohio down like I saw one

1617
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 5: and a half at bet mgm. Maybe it was a

1618
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 5: two and the under yeah, one and a half that

1619
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 5: Ohio crazy. Georgia Southern was up to three and a

1620
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 5: half like yesterday morning. I don't know what's going on.

1621
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 5: Maybe it's an injury or something we don't know about.

1622
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 5: I texted my pal who's doing the sideline reporting for

1623
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 5: the game. She didn't hear anything this week from Clay Hilton.

1624
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: So I don't know what's going on Georgia Southern. But yeah,

1625
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 5: bet the under right now under forty eight and a

1626
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 5: half still available bet MGM. I think that's a that's

1627
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 5: that's a wager for me.

1628
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: Shout out storm huh yeah, had me on the stormy

1629
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: Stormy Bonatani work with her here in Vegas, she's in

1630
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 3: Myrtle Beach today.

1631
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 6: Do in the game.

1632
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 3: She does a great jobs. Showed her very the beginning.

1633
01:19:58,680 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 3: They did this whole intro.

1634
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: It's cool.

1635
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: Well you can tell it's the bull season. She was

1636
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 3: wearing a tight ie shirt.

1637
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1638
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 3: Commentators are wearing tight ice shirts and it's like, let's

1639
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 3: let our hair down.

1640
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 5: Here, right, ball Beach, right, it is it, big saltwater

1641
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 5: taffy town, Myrtle Beach.

1642
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 6: Right, you guys into the saltwater taffy down there.

1643
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: I got involved Evolve.

1644
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 4: Oh come on, Yeah, I'll walk a boardwalk, I'll have

1645
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: a salt I'll have a corn dog and some saltwater taffy.

1646
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: Any day, I'll get on a wooden roller coaster and

1647
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 4: risk my life on a pier. Yeah, I throw caution

1648
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 4: to the wind. I'll wear a tight eyed t shiring

1649
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 4: on a broadcast.

1650
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 6: No Chornberger, big saltwater taffy guy.

1651
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1652
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: How about the biggest matchup of the week. I would

1653
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: say it's Cowboys Bills. Oh right, you look at the

1654
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: Cowboys ten and three bills seven and six. Here's the thing.

1655
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 3: You talked about this with Seamus McGee. You brought it

1656
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 3: up there. Jared where you look at this game, and

1657
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 3: to me the way I look at this, there are

1658
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 3: these teams like the Bills, where we think highly of

1659
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 3: them before the season, and then they're losing games, they're struggling,

1660
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: they're six and six, they're five hundred. But then then

1661
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 3: they go on the road and they beat Kansas City

1662
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: and it's like, here we go, this is what I

1663
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 3: thought all along Bills are back.

1664
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: Baby.

1665
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 3: I would be very cautious in this spot because the

1666
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 3: Bills have proven more times than not this year they

1667
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 3: are not to be trusted. And I get points with

1668
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: the better team on the road, I'll be it on

1669
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 3: the road, I get it, but I'll take the points

1670
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: in this one. Are you guys on Buffalo or the Cowboys?

1671
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: Here? Boy?

1672
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 4: What an interesting game, especially at this point in the season.

1673
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 4: I was talking about the Bills being the hungary team

1674
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 4: last week, and that proved accurate. I kind of feel

1675
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 4: similarly this week about the Bills. I just think desperation,

1676
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 4: especially when you have a special quarterback, and Josh Allen

1677
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 4: is absolutely that. There was a lot of people trying

1678
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 4: to defame Allen this season. Don't get me wrong, I'm

1679
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 4: not gonna defend the offense. It looked a little herky

1680
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 4: jerky to start this season. But Josh Josh Allen's not

1681
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 4: the Bills problem. He's certainly not even close to the

1682
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: top of the list in terms of their biggest problems.

1683
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is the reason why the Bills have even

1684
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 4: a snowballs chance this year. Like he is the whole

1685
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 4: show over there, he is the entire franchise. He's the

1686
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 4: reason why I New Stadium's being built in Western New York, Like,

1687
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is the reason. So you could pass me

1688
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 4: on all that stuff with Dak Prescott big moments. I

1689
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 4: still have that feeling in the pit of my stomach

1690
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 4: with Dak Prescott, like when is it gonna happen? Like

1691
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 4: when are we gonna see the big stumble? And so

1692
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 4: every single time there's a game like this, even though

1693
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 4: it's a one thirty slate, I realize it's not prime time.

1694
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 4: I get this feeling about the Cowboys like something's gonna happen.

1695
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 4: It's gonna be that three inner game where you go

1696
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 4: see there it is.

1697
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: That's the reason why you can't trust the Boys in

1698
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: the postseason.

1699
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 6: Who yeah, I agree with that premise. The Anvil for

1700
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 6: Dak is always looming.

1701
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 5: I think in this specific game, it's more about home

1702
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 5: road splits than anything else. Dallas has been a very

1703
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 5: different team on the road this year than at home.

1704
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 5: They're seven and zero at home, they're thirty and three

1705
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 5: on the road, a very different team. And the market

1706
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 5: right like, at this stage of the year, how I

1707
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 5: view these teams, my eye test does not matter as

1708
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 5: much as what the market and what the numbers tell me,

1709
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 5: and both of those things in this game point to Buffalo.

1710
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 5: It's too easy, right Dallas is coming off that huge

1711
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 5: win last week. Dak Prescott's the MVP favorite, and now

1712
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 5: they're an underdog against the Bills team. And I was

1713
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 5: very critical of them last week, and last week was

1714
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 5: a turning point game. If the Chiefs win that game

1715
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 5: last week, I don't bet Buffalo this week. But the

1716
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 5: Bills found a way to win, and now they see

1717
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 5: the light at the end of the tunnel, which is

1718
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 5: the division is very much in wraps, and Brian, I'm

1719
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 5: sure as a Dolphins fan, the Tyree Kill injury and

1720
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 5: the way that they played on Monday night like that

1721
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 5: division's not completely buttoned up yet. With Miami and Buffalo

1722
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 5: still to play in Week eighteen, So it just it

1723
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 5: feels like this is another one of those back against

1724
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 5: the wall turning point games where if Buffalo can win it,

1725
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 5: their season is everything is still to play for it.

1726
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 5: The market's telling me that they're going to win it,

1727
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 5: So I'm going to trust the market and ignore my

1728
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 5: eyes and my heart, which say Dallas probably is the

1729
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 5: better team.

1730
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,879
Speaker 3: Not even slightly worried about the Bills winning the AFC.

1731
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 2: Wow, not even this se concern.

1732
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they'll still be two games back because the

1733
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 3: Dolphins should take care of business and beata and green.

1734
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: So I really am not worried about it.

1735
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 5: And you guys get to play the Cowboys next week.

1736
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Right, and then they have the Ravens after that.

1737
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 5: It's a tough I'll be honest. The hdast is gonna

1738
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 5: be interesting. If the Buffalo wins this week, it will

1739
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 5: be it's gonna be tight.

1740
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1741
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 3: Well, this is obviously a monster matchup for Buffalo. But

1742
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: what's interesting to me is how the past can sometimes

1743
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 3: influence the present too much. Okay, if I just told

1744
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 3: you one of these quarterbacks for the last eight weeks

1745
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 3: has thrown for over three hundred yards a game, has

1746
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 3: twenty three touchdown passes in two interceptions. He's got a

1747
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: passer rating of a buck eighteen. That's over the last

1748
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: eight games. That's pretty good. Right, how about another quarterback

1749
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 3: that's throwing an interception in each of the past nine games? Right, Like,

1750
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: the first guy is Dak Prescott, who's playing at an

1751
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 3: MVP level. The second guy is Josh Allen, who is

1752
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: playing well, don't get me wrong, but he's not playing

1753
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: as well as Dak Prescott is. And yet there's way

1754
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 3: more uncertainty with Dak of like, when's Dak gonna just

1755
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 3: realize that the clock's about to strike midnight and he's

1756
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 3: gonna turn into a pumpkin here? Like, I don't know

1757
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: why we don't have those same questions about Josh Allen

1758
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 3: because although he's been good, I'm not saying he's been

1759
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 3: bad this year.

1760
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: He's been good.

1761
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: He is not playing on an MVP level like Dak is,

1762
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 3: And yet there's going to be more uncertainty and more

1763
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 3: skepticism when it comes to Dak's play with a lot

1764
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 3: of people than it is Josh Allen.

1765
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 2: I find that to be very interesting. Yeah, yeah, I.

1766
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 4: Look, but do you feel it like you know what

1767
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 4: I mean, Like when when you really think about you

1768
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 4: close your eyes and you think about Josh Allen, postseason,

1769
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 4: big moment, Josh Allen, Dak Prescott, Like there's something that

1770
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 4: sits weirder in your gut when you think about Dak

1771
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 4: Prescott in those spots, right, And I'm I'm not sure

1772
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 4: what it is, but I know I feel it with

1773
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 4: Dak more than I do with Josh.

1774
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 3: Rich I think what it is, and I hear you,

1775
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 3: I think it's last postseason. Yeahah, it was Dak the

1776
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 3: two interceptions against the forty nine ers.

1777
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: That's the last thing we saw from him. Yeah, yeah,

1778
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: that's part of it. I mean, it's a huge part

1779
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 2: of it.

1780
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 4: Actually, that might be the whole picture because they actually

1781
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 4: also oddly have very similar amounts of games played in

1782
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 4: the postseason at this point.

1783
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: In their career.

1784
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Dak has a couple more years as

1785
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 4: a starter than Josh Allen. But the Bills, I mean,

1786
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 4: they've been on such a heater in that AFC since

1787
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 4: he's taken over as a starting quarterback. He's caught up,

1788
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,839
Speaker 4: or he might have a he might have slightly fewer

1789
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 4: or excuse me, slightly more games in the postseason than DAK,

1790
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 4: like it might be like eight and six something like

1791
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: like Josh Allen's played in eight games, Dak's played in

1792
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 4: six games.

1793
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Either way, the point.

1794
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 4: Is when you have the NFL distilled to the absolute

1795
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 4: best teams left in the tournament and you get an

1796
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 4: opportunity to see the best faces of the game face

1797
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 4: off against each other. Maybe the indelible image is that

1798
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 4: showdown between Allen and Mahomes where they're just trading blows

1799
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 4: and so you saw Alan be able to handle that moment.

1800
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 4: Now they lose, and you have to weigh that balanced

1801
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 4: that out too, But there's that there's that feeling of like, oh,

1802
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 4: I've seen it, Like I think I believe that Allen

1803
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 4: can do it, Whereas with Dak, he's gotten to that

1804
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 4: point and there have been times where he's folded like

1805
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 4: a wet tent on a camping trip and it just

1806
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 4: ruins the trip.

1807
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: It just ruins the trip.

1808
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 4: In San Francisco twice now in the postseason has done

1809
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 4: that to the Dallas Cowboys.

1810
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when you look at the postseason, very

1811
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 5: different when you're handicapping this specific game, right, I think

1812
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 5: Buffalo's the right side and I'm wrong all the time, guys.

1813
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 6: Let mean, let's be honest.

1814
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, you know, half the time this year in

1815
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 5: our rapid fire picks. But it's telling me that the bills,

1816
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 5: the market, the way that it's moved, and the situation.

1817
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 6: Is all flashing Buffalo here, and.

1818
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna trust it. It was my biggest bet of

1819
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 5: the week so far. It's my biggest position I bet

1820
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 5: Buffalo money line. It was my first bet of the week.

1821
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 5: Actually it was on Monday, when Sunday night, Monday morning

1822
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 5: when the market opened, and it's just a it's just

1823
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 5: kind of a spot like you know, you've been through

1824
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 5: this a lot with the NFL where they give you

1825
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 5: these games and they're begging you to take the points

1826
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 5: with Dallas after what we've seen, and I'm just I'm

1827
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 5: too in my mind, I'm just thinking, no, no, this

1828
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 5: is I've seen this before, I've seen this movie before.

1829
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 5: We just like the Raiders game is the perfect example.

1830
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 5: Like the they're averaging thirty one and a half points

1831
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 5: over their last two games, but those two games are

1832
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 5: very very different, right, So I just I don't think

1833
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 5: we're going to see the same deck that we saw

1834
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 5: last week. I think it's going to be a different

1835
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 5: type of offense. I think Buffalo's defense is going to

1836
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 5: figure it out, and I think Josh Allen's gonna make

1837
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 5: fewer mistakes than Dak Will and I think that's why

1838
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 5: Buffalo is going to win the game.

1839
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, man, is this is a tough

1840
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Cowboys offense to figure it out with as many defensive

1841
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 3: injuries as the Bills has, They're gonna have to crank

1842
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: up the pass rush big time. And just hope that

1843
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: Dallas's offense is a little bit off on the road.

1844
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: They're not as stellar as they are at home. A

1845
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 3: couple of things beyond the quarterbacks that stick out to

1846
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 3: me if this is a close game. What a weapon

1847
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 3: the Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey is.

1848
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 2: He's been He's.

1849
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 3: Thirty for thirty. He hasn't missed a field goal all year.

1850
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 3: He banged a fifty nine and a sixty yard field

1851
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: goal last week against the Eagles. That guy has been extraordinary.

1852
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: And he was a soccer player at Notre Dame. He

1853
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: didn't even play football in college. And this guy is

1854
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 3: perfect kicking the ball at field goal wise, he's missed

1855
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 3: three extra points, which is great, which is crazy to me,

1856
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 3: but he's perfect. He's thirty for thirty kicking field goals

1857
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 3: and if this is a tight game down the stretch,

1858
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: need a field goal, clutch kick. Brandon Aubrey has been

1859
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 3: a can't miss guy so far.

1860
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 4: And I don't want to, you know, completely bore the audience,

1861
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: but this could be one of those games that if

1862
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 4: it is tight, it's one up front. You know, Buffalo

1863
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 4: really pretty solid pass rush over the course of this season.

1864
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 4: This is a Cowboys offensive line that has done a

1865
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 4: really nice job against pass rush, you know. So it's

1866
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 4: strength on strength there. And then you look at Micah Parsons, like,

1867
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 4: how do you neutralize a really mobile and talented, improvisational

1868
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 4: quarterback like a Josh Allen Well by having a Swiss

1869
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 4: army knife like Micah Parsons and Dan Quinn as his

1870
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. Like Micah already has twelve and a half sacks.

1871
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 4: He leads the NFL with eighty two pressures. He is incredible.

1872
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 4: I think the Lawrence Taylor comparisons, I think those might

1873
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 4: be beyond the pale. But this guy is one of the

1874
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:50,480
Speaker 4: most useful defenders we've seen in the NFL in decades.

1875
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 4: He's incredible, and so this game could be about the

1876
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 4: chess match up front, and it could be a lot

1877
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 4: less about all the skill pass players making these astounding

1878
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 4: plays like we've gotten used to over the past couple

1879
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 4: of weeks with both the Bills and the Cowboys offense.

1880
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, this feels like this definitely feels like the game

1881
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 5: of the week. But I'm sure it'll be a blowout

1882
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 5: in one direction, because that's just some of these games go.

1883
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 5: My guess is Buffalo by a fieldal That's how I

1884
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 5: would call it, short and sweet.

1885
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 2: I'd have to have a side wager.

1886
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 5: On this, that's w Yeah this, I know a big

1887
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 5: wager on the Bills already, so I'll be honest with you.

1888
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 6: My bankro can handle it.

1889
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's two and a half.

1890
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 2: Well it was.

1891
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 5: The money line was minus one twenty five, so I

1892
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 5: might have got minus one thirty. You can get minus

1893
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 5: one twenty five now. But yeah, it's a two unit wager.

1894
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 5: It's one of my bigger NFL bets of the year.

1895
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 4: All right, this is I mean this, Yeah, gosh, Bills

1896
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 4: by a Field, Oh my god, it's uh. If I

1897
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 4: have a lean, it's Bills. But I'll tell you what

1898
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 4: this is. This is very much so a hands off

1899
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 4: game for me. I just every for every excuse I

1900
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 4: can make for the Bills to win this one, like

1901
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 4: you brought up, Brian, like I can make. I can

1902
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 4: give you about two more that they could screw it up.

1903
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 4: And yeah, and frankly same for the Dallas Cowboys. Like

1904
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 4: every time I come up with great reasons why they're

1905
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: gonna leave Buffalo with a win, I then all of

1906
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 4: a sudden go, yeah but yeah, but you played the

1907
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 4: yeah but.

1908
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Game too many times.

1909
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's dangerous to play the what if game? Yeah, yeah,

1910
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 3: but what if Kadarius Tony doesn't line up off side

1911
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: last week and the Chiefs win that game and the

1912
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 3: Bills are six and seven, I.

1913
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 5: Wouldn't be betting Buffalo this week, and there Dallas is

1914
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 5: probably favored.

1915
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and that was as close to the to

1916
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 3: the reality that you can get literally a couple of

1917
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:49,799
Speaker 3: inches away.

1918
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 5: I got better than that game, though, right, Like they

1919
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 5: were dealing with so many distractions last week with the

1920
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 5: McDermott stuff going into Kansas City and winning that game.

1921
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 5: I don't care how they want it. They want it

1922
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 5: and Tony was off sides. You know.

1923
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 2: I just.

1924
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes in the NFL it takes a weird bounce like

1925
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 5: that that's change your fortunes and all of a sudden

1926
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 5: Buffalo gets hot. Because let's be honest, before the season started,

1927
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 5: if you were gonna ask me who was favored in

1928
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 5: this game, I would have told you Buffalo.

1929
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's important.

1930
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 3: That's why the what if game, Like, you can lean

1931
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 3: on that a little bit, but don't lean into it

1932
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 3: all the way.

1933
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's not what happened.

1934
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 3: And you're right, Jared, However it shook out Tony is offside,

1935
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 3: It was the right call. The Chiefs don't win that game,

1936
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 3: the Bills do. That was a massive shot in the

1937
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 3: arm for the Bills. Yeah, so maybe they build off

1938
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: of that. That's the reality here.

1939
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 5: Sometimes that adversity builds, like like we were questioning a

1940
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 5: lot of the internals. We weren't questioning Buffalo's talent last week.

1941
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 5: We were questioning the intestinal fortitude of the sidelines. During

1942
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 5: close games, sometimes you just have to see one go

1943
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 5: through the hoop and then the confidence comes later.

1944
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 6: That's kind of what happened last week with Buffalo.

1945
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,440
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked if they went on a Buffalo

1946
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 5: like run this last month and showed us why they

1947
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 5: were the preseason right, they were the super Bowl favorite preseason.

1948
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: Flip these games.

1949
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 4: Like imagine the Bills were on the road last week

1950
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 4: in Dallas and got a win very similar looking to

1951
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 4: the win they just got over the Chiefs against the Cowboys,

1952
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 4: and they were hosting the Chiefs this.

1953
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: Week, you know like that.

1954
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like I would be on the Bill side,

1955
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I would My lean

1956
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 4: would be Buffalo because I look at the Chiefs and

1957
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 4: Dallas is very similar teams, you know, I mean, very

1958
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 4: competent quarterback, very competent defensively. You could make the argument

1959
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 4: that the Chiefs defense or excuse me, offense, it really

1960
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 4: does pale in comparison to the production of the Cowboys

1961
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 4: offense this season. But yeah, like I mean, they're these

1962
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 4: teams right now, Cowboys, Chiefs. They're a little bit interchangeably

1963
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 4: mental or interchangeable mentally to me right now, And so

1964
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I mean, if I'm forced to, like,

1965
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 4: if you're gonna say rich you gotta pick a side,

1966
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 4: I'm holding my nose and I'm taking the Bills at home, but.

1967
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't want to do it.

1968
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 3: Do it interesting, don't do it, don't do it, don't

1969
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: do it.

1970
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 5: Angel on your shoulder, I know.

1971
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 2: Plug your nose and take the Cowboys.

1972
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 6: Which one's the devil?

1973
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 2: Which the angel? Real question here? Yeah, that's true. Maybe

1974
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: two devils, I don't know.

1975
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 6: Probably that's probably.

1976
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 2: Just wearing different clothing. That's all.

1977
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 3: We got Rich Ornberger, we uh, Penn State, all American

1978
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 3: over there, pork shoulder enthusiasts, the whole nine yards. We've

1979
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 3: got Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst.

1980
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 2: How's uh? How's the dog doing over there?

1981
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 6: Goodly?

1982
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 5: Poring a little bit this morning. You nestled up in

1983
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 5: the little corner here and he's just so cute.

1984
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 3: Guys always like getting a jackpot update right there. I'm

1985
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 3: Brian No. Coming up next the NFL Sundo Moorgas Board.

1986
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 3: There are two teams in the same conference, highly thought of,

1987
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 3: but they've both dropped their past two games. In trouble

1988
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 3: or not, we'll dissect it is Fox Sports Radios Countdown

1989
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,440
Speaker 3: to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM.

1990
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 2: We're roughly an hour and a half away from.

1991
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 3: NFL football over here. It is Fox Sports radios Countdown

1992
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. Once if they play

1993
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: bet MGM's free to play eight Bit Barry for a

1994
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: chance to win daily prizes. Play as Hall of Famer

1995
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders and choose to spin, stiff arm or juke

1996
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 3: your way to the end zone to win prizes. If

1997
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 3: Barry scores a touchdown, you score a reward. Okay, As

1998
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 3: we look at the Sunday slate of NFL action, how

1999
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 3: about two teams in the AFC, both the Chiefs and

2000
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 3: the Jags. They both have eight and five records. They've

2001
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 3: both dropped their past two games. The Chiefs have lost

2002
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:00,799
Speaker 3: four of six.

2003
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 2: Wow, how about that?

2004
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs in a get right spot on the

2005
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 3: road against the Patriots Jacksonville at home on Sunday night

2006
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 3: against the Ravens.

2007
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: Huh.

2008
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 3: Do we see the Chiefs get back on track? Do

2009
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 3: we see the Jags get back on track? Are we

2010
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 3: looking at a pair of nine to five teams when

2011
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 3: it's all said and done tomorrow night.

2012
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,520
Speaker 4: Don't slip up against New England. That's that's uh.

2013
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Listen.

2014
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 4: I was having this conversation this week with a buddy.

2015
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:42,440
Speaker 4: The Patriots, they're good for one, really shockingly surprisingly lopsided

2016
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 4: loss or victory or you know, uncharacteristic based on their

2017
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:47,919
Speaker 4: season loss or victory.

2018
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 2: Every year, every single year.

2019
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 4: Either they get snuck up on by somebody who's not

2020
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: supposed to beat them when they're good, or the opposite happens.

2021
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: The Patriots are awful.

2022
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 4: I mean, from a record standpoint, this is the worst

2023
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 4: season Belichick has ever had as a head coach. We

2024
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 4: know all that, but boy, oh boy, when they're playing

2025
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,839
Speaker 4: mistake free football, when the when the Patriots are playing

2026
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 4: I mean, look, was it perfect last week against the Steelers?

2027
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 5: No?

2028
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 2: Did they get the win? Yeah?

2029
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 4: And Pittsburgh has got a tough place to play, sure is.

2030
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm putting it out there. This is not

2031
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 4: going to be a rollover type of game where the

2032
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 4: Patriots are just going to go belly up on you,

2033
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 4: belly zappy. He's going to try to embarrass you. I mean,

2034
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 4: that's he's he's fighting for a job in the NFL,

2035
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick. I mean, he's fighting for relevance. You saw

2036
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 4: the report this week. He's out of a job in

2037
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 4: New England. So he's openly campaigning for his next head

2038
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 4: coaching opportunity potentially here. This is a trap game for

2039
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,919
Speaker 4: the Chiefs in the biggest way possible.

2040
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, market's kind of bounced around here.

2041
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 5: Saw at MGS it opened and around ten ish got

2042
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 5: bet down to about seven and a half. So we

2043
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 5: saw the early money come in on New England and

2044
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 5: then over the last oh i'll call it twenty four

2045
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 5: to forty eight hours or so, a little bit more

2046
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 5: action coming in on Kansas City, pushing this line back

2047
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 5: up to about eight eight and a half now, So

2048
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 5: you know, you're kind of.

2049
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 6: Seeing the way that the market goes.

2050
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 5: But that initial move was was certainly on New England,

2051
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 5: so maybe Kansas City a little bit. And I think

2052
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 5: that's the question, like, even after all of this turmoil

2053
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 5: that the Chiefs have gone through, are we getting a

2054
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,679
Speaker 5: fair price on them still? Like I don't know if

2055
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 5: that's true because the you know, the issue with betting

2056
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 5: Kansas City during this Mahomes runs, you're always.

2057
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 6: Paying the Mahomes tax.

2058
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 5: That tax is still being levied even though the output

2059
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 5: is not quite the same. Like I'm waiting for the

2060
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 5: Boston tea party here, throw the tea into the river.

2061
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 5: Paying the Mahomes tax for all these years and you're

2062
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 5: still paying it this year, even though the Chiefs are

2063
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 5: a shell of them former selves. Situationally, the absolutely this

2064
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 5: spot favors New England.

2065
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 6: The Patriots have a long rest.

2066
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 5: They played the Steelers ten days ago, and the Chiefs

2067
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 5: are coming off of a really tough, physical game against

2068
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 5: I would call the Bills kind of like their modern

2069
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 5: rival against the Bengals. Maybe be the other one, but

2070
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 5: they've played the Bills a lot in the playoffs and

2071
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 5: there's a lot of bad bud there.

2072
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 6: Between those two teams.

2073
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 5: So it situationally, this spot absolutely favors New England. The

2074
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 5: question is, at what point does Mahomes wake up.

2075
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2076
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 5: I don't think it's this week, but I think at

2077
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 5: some point he was really.

2078
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 6: Upset on the side last week.

2079
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 5: At some point he's gonna wake up and have one

2080
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,799
Speaker 5: of those classic Mahomes games.

2081
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 3: Right, guys, Well, I think it's a matter of his

2082
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 3: receivers waking up, right, That's what it's down to. Thirty

2083
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 3: two dropped passes by his wide receivers leads the NFL.

2084
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 3: And what you saw last week, guys, was just classic frustration,

2085
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 3: not just with the penalty with k Darius Tony being

2086
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 3: off sides, but just the frustration of how the season

2087
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 3: has played out thus far. The Chiefs are not used

2088
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 3: to losing four of six. No, and it's just you

2089
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 3: know how, I don't know in your daily lives how

2090
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 3: something annoys you and then something else annoys you, and

2091
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 3: it's just building and building and building. The Chiefs normally

2092
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 3: don't lose four of six. And with MVS dropping an

2093
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 3: easy catch against the Eagles, that lost the game, to

2094
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 3: all these dropped passes, to not lining up correctly, that

2095
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,879
Speaker 3: was just Mahomes losing it because he was frustrated about

2096
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 3: many things and the official was just the easy target.

2097
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 3: It was an embarrassing look, but that was because of

2098
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 3: the way the season is played out. Like if that

2099
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 3: game played out, Like, think about how he handled MVS

2100
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 3: not catching the ball against the Eagles and it was like, yeah,

2101
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 3: if the pass is a little shorter, maybe an easier catch,

2102
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 3: but it's all good.

2103
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 2: It's basically his tone.

2104
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the Kidarius Tony thing had happened in the

2105
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: Philly week, I don't think Mahomes melts down the way

2106
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 3: he did.

2107
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 5: You guys like that reaction post game with Mahomes, Oh.

2108
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 3: Like right, after it was just a complete hissy fit.

2109
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 3: He knows he was a bad look.

2110
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, I look, what's crazy is

2111
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 4: he's a competitor and he was emotional clearly after that game. Yeah,

2112
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 4: and that was that obviously was a really bad look.

2113
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 4: But I always tried to give guys the benefit of

2114
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 4: the doubt, especially when they've shown you time and time

2115
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 4: again that they're not that guy, you know what I mean.

2116
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 4: So I look that that was a bad moment for

2117
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, and so I'll give him that. But but

2118
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 4: I will say this, this is this is a part

2119
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 4: of the season where he's never felt pressure like this,

2120
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 4: like the Chiefs. The Chiefs are in real trouble, like

2121
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty one season. I remember they went through

2122
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 4: that rough stretch, but it was early and then they

2123
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 4: figured it out, you know, and and then all of

2124
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 4: a sudden it was Kelsey and it was Hill, and

2125
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 4: they had McCole Hardman who had times stepped up for them,

2126
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 4: and Byron Pringle at times stepped up for them, like

2127
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 4: the gang was still together back in twenty one. It

2128
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 4: was after that season that Hill leaves and then they

2129
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl without him last year, they kind

2130
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 4: of stailed through the season, but twenty twenty one there.

2131
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 2: Was that rough stretch that they were on.

2132
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 4: Well, in twenty twenty three, it's just kind of been

2133
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 4: rough all season and it's only gotten rougher. Like we've

2134
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 4: never seen Patrick Mahomes at this point in the season

2135
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 4: in December fighting this hard down the stretch of the

2136
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 4: regular season, and so I think he's I think he's

2137
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 4: becoming a little bit on glued in terms of like

2138
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 4: how it used to feel easy this time of year

2139
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 4: and it ain't easy for the Chiefs right now.

2140
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2141
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 5: I usually give players on the field the benefit of

2142
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 5: the doubt for you know, unflattering postgame reactions, because I

2143
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 5: don't know what it's like to go to war and

2144
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 5: then have a your phone in my face ten seconds

2145
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 5: after I heard the battlefield.

2146
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 3: Imagine if you lost a bet and someone's asking you

2147
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 3: all these follow up questions.

2148
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2149
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 6: Now, to be fair, I used to host a live show.

2150
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 5: During games where I would be making wagers like right now,

2151
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 5: for example, I'm on Georgia Southern minus three and they're

2152
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 5: not playing well.

2153
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 6: My demeanor might change for the last hour, and.

2154
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 5: I understand how the hissy fit becomes a thing because

2155
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 5: if you saw, Jackpot has witnessed many hissy fits in

2156
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 5: my living room for guys missing free throws and ridiculous

2157
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 5: bad beats like you see our group chats some days

2158
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 5: like it's just like expletive angry. So I understand where

2159
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 5: the emotion comes from. And it has been a very

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01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 5: emotional season for Patrick Mahomes. The question is can the

2161
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the Bills did a good job of this

2162
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 5: last week they channeled all of that emotion and they

2163
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 5: played a pretty good game on the road in Kansas City, right,

2164
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 5: And I think I think that's the question you have

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01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 5: to ask yourself for the Chiefs, and this game might

2166
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 5: not be the best indicator of it because they're expected

2167
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 5: to win, but they've got a couple really tough games

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01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,919
Speaker 5: down the stretch and they're gonna be in the playoffs.

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01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 5: They're probably gonna win this division. We are going to

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01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 5: be asking these questions not in the divisional round this year,

2171
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 5: in the wild card round for Patrick Mahomes, and I

2172
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 5: think that is the big question. Can they channel all

2173
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 5: of this negative energy and adversity into something positive? Usually

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01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 5: the answer is yes, because Mahomes is built differently, but

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01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if the answer is yes, this.

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01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Year super fast. Think about Tyreek Hill. We talk about

2177
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 3: buyer's remorse. How about non buyer's remorse this year? Definitely

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01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 3: think about that. And look, they won a super Bowl

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01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 3: last season. Let's not forget that without Tyreek Hill. But

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01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 3: this season is a different animal and not having Tyreek

2181
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 3: Hill there is huge. And think about the difference he

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01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 3: made on Monday night not being in the full game

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01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:01,879
Speaker 3: with the ankle injury.

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Speaker 2: With the Dolphins.

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01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 3: I joked around, I was like, the Dolphins are the

2186
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 3: chiefs now Yep, like they they don't have that dynamic playmaker.

2187
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill has ninety seven catches for nearly fifteen hundred

2188
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 3: and fifty yards and twelve touchdowns with four games left.

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Speaker 5: You think he's the MVP correctly in the running, but yeah,

2190
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 5: it hurts them losing and maybe not getting the one seed.

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01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in the running right now. Someone who is

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01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 3: not only in the running, he's leading the race. The

2193
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:36,640
Speaker 3: race is still going, but he's won the race already.

2194
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 3: That would be Isaac Lowen Crown, who's with us.

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Speaker 8: I love with the latest I Shades of Secretariat in

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01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 8: seventy seven. That's right, the Nana War in nineteen nineteen. Anyway,

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Speaker 8: I might have the date wrong on Man of War.

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Speaker 8: By the way, we start fellas with fresh NFL who's

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01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles head coach Nick s Rianni announcing a short

2200
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 8: time ago the cornerback Darius Slay underwent arthroscopic knee surgery

2201
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 8: this week and will be out for Monday Night's game

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Speaker 8: at Seattle, but Slay is expected to return prior to

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01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 8: the end of the regular season. On the field, An

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Speaker 8: NFL triple header today commences at one pm Eastern, with

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Speaker 8: the Bengals hosting the Vikings, both teams seven and six.

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01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 8: That'll be followed by the Colts hosting the Steelers, both

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01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 8: of those teams also seven and six. Head of the

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01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 8: nightcap that will be the Denver Broncos visiting the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 8: In the NBA Friday Night Jalen Brunson of the Knicks

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01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 8: scored a career high fifty points in their one thirty nine,

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01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 8: one twenty two win at Phoenix Sixers over the Pistons

2212
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 8: one twenty four to ninety two. That's a franchise record

2213
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 8: twenty two consecutive losses for the Pistons. The NBA single

2214
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 8: season record is twenty six. The San Antonio spur has

2215
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 8: broken eighteen game losing streak with a one twenty nine

2216
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 8: one fifteen win over the Los Angeles Lakers, who are

2217
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:02,759
Speaker 8: without Anthony Davis because of a hip injury. And College

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01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 8: football Bowl season is underway with the Myrtle Beach Ball

2219
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 8: where early in the second quarter, the Ohio Bobcats sab

2220
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 8: a three to nothing lead over the Georgia Southern Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Fellows back to you, thank you, I Low.

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Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to kick Off, presented

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01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 3: right after we get off the year a little Saturday

2230
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 3: reset as we have the Saturday NFL triple header. I

2231
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 3: love this stat This is crazy. So this specifically applies

2232
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 3: to the Steelers and coltscheme, but think about this. In

2233
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 3: the AFC, eleven teams have winning records right now. Wow,

2234
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 3: and there are six teams. Yeah, six teams in the

2235
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 3: AFC that are seven and six. That's crazy. So both

2236
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 3: the Steelers and the Colts are seven and six. Obviously

2237
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 3: both have winning records. That's the most for a single

2238
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 3: conference through Week fourteen since the nineteen seventy merger.

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01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 2: So you talk about it in.

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01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 3: Golf moving day, this could be moving day in terms

2241
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 3: of playoff positioning. Huge game for the Steelers and Colts

2242
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 3: and all these seven and six teams trying to sneak

2243
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 3: into the playoffs this weekend.

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01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 4: Hey, really quick, I just want to because, for whatever reason,

2245
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 4: talking about the Colts reminded me of this offseason with

2246
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor and a lot of these other running backs

2247
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 4: making such a stink over their value.

2248
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're appreciated in this league.

2249
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 4: Like if we want to review that conversation Sakwon Barkley,

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 4: Austin Eckler, Jonathan Taylor, you know, go back, look at

2251
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 4: what's happened with oh the backup in New York with

2252
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 4: the Jets, Dalvin Cook. I mean, some of the best

2253
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 4: running backs from last year have been some of the

2254
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 4: lowest performing running backs this season, and they wonder why

2255
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 4: they're undervalued, and they wonder why teams don't trust them

2256
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 4: with big contracts, and they wonder how that the market

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01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:28,560
Speaker 4: has misplaced their value so vastly based on their opinions

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01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 4: versus what they're being paid. Look, I get it, it's

2259
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 4: not fair, and don't get me wrong, there are certain

2260
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 4: years where Derrick Henry can take over the league, can

2261
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 4: take over a team and can put you on a

2262
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 4: warpath a Saquon Barkley, same thing last year for the Giants.

2263
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 4: That was a postseason run and a win in the

2264
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 4: postseason on the road because of his individual efforts.

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01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler was the entire Chargers offense in twenty twenty two.

2266
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:52,759
Speaker 2: But holy smokes, I mean.

2267
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 4: The year of the running back it was supposed to

2268
01:51:55,600 --> 01:52:00,759
Speaker 4: be has been completely decimated by injury. And it further's

2269
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 4: the point that a lot of these general managers in

2270
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:06,919
Speaker 4: front office were making the position is appropriately valued.

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01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 6: Chase Brown is the perfect example.

2272
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 5: Dude comes out of nowhere and now looks like one

2273
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 5: of the best backs in the league.

2274
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 6: You'll see him in about an hour in this Bengals game.

2275
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 5: You can find him anywhere.

2276
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 6: There's no point in paying take.

2277
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 5: Kwan Parkley or even Joe Mixon or any of these

2278
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 5: other guys, because at some point in the middle of

2279
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 5: the season, Chase Brown comes off the bench and looks

2280
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 5: like Barry Sanders for five weeks because he's got fresh

2281
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 5: legs and that matters. Like it's an attrition sport, and

2282
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 5: unfortunately the running back position is the.

2283
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:36,839
Speaker 6: Highest of all the attrition.

2284
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 3: Well, maybe a little Chase Brown prop bet right around

2285
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 3: the corner. That's got the bank.

2286
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:44,639
Speaker 2: That's right.

2287
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 3: We got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

2288
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:49,759
Speaker 3: betting analyst.

2289
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: I'm Brian know.

2290
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 3: We each have three picks apiece, and let's just hope

2291
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 3: they're better than the last week.

2292
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Details on that to come.

2293
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radios cap Down to Kickoff presented

2294
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 3: by BETTMGM. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff

2295
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 3: presented by Bett MGM. Just a little over an hour

2296
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 3: until NFL Action Right now, Ohio ahead of Georgia Southern

2297
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:16,759
Speaker 3: in the Myrtle Beach Bowl.

2298
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: Ten nothing.

2299
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 3: Props to the crew. Bo Benzon, our trusted producer, still

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01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 3: on an Otani high. We've got Chris Burfett, technical producer.

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01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 3: Great job as always, Isaac Lowenkron crushing it on the

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01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 3: updates and crushing life in general.

2303
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Top of the Hour, up on Game.

2304
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington, DJ Huschman, Zada, Plexico, Burris. I'll get you

2305
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 3: all set for a loaded weekend. We got picks to make.

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01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Let's do it rapid fire, Okay, So I just want

2307
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 2: to say this before we get into the picks.

2308
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 3: I ran across a great quote this week, Paine is

2309
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 3: the best teacher, and I was like, that's fitting because

2310
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 3: I was oh and three in the big last week.

2311
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 3: Rich Oh was rich three and oh two weeks ago,

2312
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 3: and I followed that up by going oh in three unbelievable.

2313
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 3: But collectively we weren't the greatest. So we're looking to

2314
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 3: turn things around. Jared, we'll start with you.

2315
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 2: What do you like? Yeah?

2316
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 5: I went one to one in one last week's complete

2317
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 5: picket fence across the board. I'm twenty three, twenty four

2318
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 5: and one for the season, so I'm right around the

2319
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 5: five hundred mark. Not great, to be perfectly honest with you,

2320
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 5: but it's still time to figure it up. And all

2321
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 5: these lines currently available on VET MPGT. I'll be brief

2322
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 5: because I don't think we touched on all these games,

2323
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna take the Louisiana Agent Caken's in the

2324
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 5: New Orleans Bowl.

2325
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take three points in that game.

2326
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 5: They're facing Jacksonville State. I don't trust rich Rod in

2327
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 5: this game, and I know this might not seem like

2328
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 5: an upspot for Louisiana playing in the New Orleans Bowl

2329
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 5: being in Louisiana, but they're familiar with this game, and

2330
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 5: I do think they've got more talent than Jacksonville State.

2331
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 6: So I'll take three points there.

2332
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 5: I'll take three and a half points with Kal later tonight.

2333
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 5: This is the Independence Bowl. I think pal is a

2334
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 5: playoff team in ball season. I like their freshman quarterback Mendoza.

2335
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 5: I think he'll do well with the extra reps.

2336
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 6: I'll take count plus three and a half.

2337
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 5: Jake not coming back next year too, should be a

2338
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 5: big motivating angle for the Bears.

2339
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 4: All Right, Saturday Special in the NFL, since he is

2340
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 4: hosting the Vikings today, Jake Browning comes back down to

2341
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 4: Earth against the red hot Vikings defense. Vikings fort stringer

2342
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 4: Nick Mullins looks competent but underwhelming. The total is set

2343
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 4: at forty and a half. Give me the under there

2344
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 4: Broncos getting four at Detroit is easy money. I love

2345
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 4: the way that Denver has played the second half of

2346
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 4: this season. I do not trust Detroit right now against

2347
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:46,839
Speaker 4: well coach competition. Give me the Broncos. I'll take the points.

2348
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 4: The Colts hosting the Steelers. Okay, so they're favored by

2349
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,839
Speaker 4: a point and a half in they tough road environment,

2350
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 4: really loud in there, especially when the Colts have a chance.

2351
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 4: Steelers give up way too many yards in the run game.

2352
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 4: I think Indy controls the clock and win a close one.

2353
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 4: Colts cover the point.

2354
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 2: And a half. Okay, So I like a couple of

2355
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 2: prop bets.

2356
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 3: First off, Sam Howell, Washington quarterback, give me over thirty

2357
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 3: eight and a half passing attempts.

2358
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 2: They throw it like crazy.

2359
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 3: No, Brian Robinson, I think he puts at Nier a

2360
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 3: lot against.

2361
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 2: The Rams tomorrow.

2362
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 3: Give me Dak Prescott his rushing prop Give me over

2363
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 3: thirteen and a half rushing yards against the Bills. You

2364
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 3: might double maybe bracket ceed Lamb. You're not gonna be

2365
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 3: as worried about Dak and his legs, but he's been

2366
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 3: effective this season. I'll take him to go over thirteen

2367
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 3: and a half and let's have some fun. No v Rich,

2368
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 3: give me the Lions. I'll lay the four and a

2369
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 3: half focus today. I think this is a spot. It's

2370
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 3: gonna be a madhouse pride time Saturday night. Broncos three

2371
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 3: straight road games. I'll lay it and go with the Lions.

2372
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 2: True.

2373
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 3: Huh, Well, let's let our hair down and have some

2374
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: fun on an NFL Saturday.

2375
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 5: Both of you won't be winless this week.

2376
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 2: I guess there you go. Well, someone could be a

2377
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: scoreless Tide.

2378
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 5: Scoreless, Well, that means Brian or Rich would win.

2379
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 2: Right, he took the points.

2380
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm just saying someone could still go winless for the week, right,

2381
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 3: but it won't be both.

2382
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: That's right.

2383
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 6: We'll get a win this week.

2384
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 2: All right, we got this. Let's do it.

2385
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:31,879
Speaker 1: This is the best play of the day.

2386
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, what is it?

2387
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 5: Shame of special baby? New Mexico State minus three? It's

2388
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 5: the Jerry Kill ball. They beat Auburn, of course they

2389
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 5: can beat Fresno State.

2390
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I love that.

2391
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 3: Okay, love that it works out or not. Hey, everybody

2392
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 3: enjoyed the ball. We got bowl games, We've got three

2393
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 3: NFL games. Have a great day.