WEBVTT - Rookie Running Backs With Thor - Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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<v Speaker 2>whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your host, Paul Chargian.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchie, and

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<v Speaker 1>my guest for this show and most of the shows

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<v Speaker 1>between now and the draft is Thor Nice Drum.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, buddy, Yeah, Hey, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I'm so excited for the first awesome running

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<v Speaker 1>back draft we have had in many, many years. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a very real chance that this goes down as the

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<v Speaker 1>deepest best running back draft in like decades.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I've been doing draft work for

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<v Speaker 3>a decade now. This is the best running back class

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<v Speaker 3>during that time for sure, you know, and you'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to go back earlier than that. But yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>just a nasty, nasty running back class.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I love it. There's so many running backs that

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're actually gonna break this concept down. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>break down running backs. We're gonna break it into two

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<v Speaker 1>shows because there's just so many guys to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>You like, last year, we're gonna do six running backs

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive on six running backs today. Last year there

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<v Speaker 1>were only about six guys worth even talking about. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're gonna cover between the two shows. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do six today, We're gonna do like twelve next week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy how many guys there are worth talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Thor Yeah, this is the year where if you have

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<v Speaker 3>multiple spots in your running back room, you probably want

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<v Speaker 3>to take two running backs in the draft if you're

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<v Speaker 3>an organization. But yeah, for dynasty owners out there, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the year to get your running backs load up.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. And you know, from a dynasty standpoint, thor Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have pick one overall, right, ashon Jety,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about them with plenty. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you got to make you need a running back, and

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<v Speaker 1>you got to make do it pick five, at picks six,

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<v Speaker 1>at pick seven, you're gonna get way better prospects in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle rounds of your dynasty draft than you would

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<v Speaker 1>have in most years.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, definitely, Yeah, I mean you you squeeze these two

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<v Speaker 3>classes together, the last running back class in this one,

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<v Speaker 3>you might have six or seven guys from this class

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<v Speaker 3>that would have gone before Jonathan Brooks last last April.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's it's just a totally different animal. We're

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with the running back class this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really is. I thought that we would. I

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<v Speaker 1>would start here, for there's a lot of running back

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<v Speaker 1>and needy teams, and I've broken into two groups, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can feel free to disagree with me, into like

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<v Speaker 1>Tier one teams that really need a running back and

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<v Speaker 1>then Tier two teams that I think could spend equity

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<v Speaker 1>on a running back, especially in this deeper class, that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just don't quite have exactly the backfield that they

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<v Speaker 1>want yet. So let me start here. I think Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>is in business. Nick Chubbs got plenty of question marks

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<v Speaker 1>and free agency, and so I think Cleveland is in

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<v Speaker 1>business here, although they've got addressed quarterback. First, how about Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Najie Harris is an unrestricted free agent. Houston to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a sneaky running back destination. Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 1>petered out hard after he remember remember thor when he

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<v Speaker 1>started the season so well and then in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season, it just didn't come together for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon and he looked old. Yeah, Denver Javonte Williams

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<v Speaker 1>does not look like the answer. Nobody on that roster

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<v Speaker 1>right now looks like the guys that are ultimately the

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<v Speaker 1>answer for Sean Payton Las Vegas. Right now, the leading

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<v Speaker 1>running back under contract for this coming season of Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas is Sincere McCormick. That tells you plenty uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what do you think about the What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the Chargers what they had? You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>tried the Dobbins Edwards thing, the recycled Ravens, and while

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<v Speaker 1>it Dobbins looked good at the beginning of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't able to get anything done. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbaugh wants to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're you're not going to be able to prevent

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Harbaugh from taking a running back in the best

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<v Speaker 3>running back class. So we've seen the decades in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can count on that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Dallas is the team everybody points at, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's totally valid. And if there was one

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<v Speaker 1>team where you go, yeah, you know, Ashton genty will

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<v Speaker 1>never slip by that team, it's got to be Dallas, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, Yeah, his Ashton Genz's floor is picked twelve. Will

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<v Speaker 3>he get to pick twelve? That is the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think it will. The Bears, I think

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<v Speaker 1>are a sneaky running back destination. You look at the

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<v Speaker 1>improvements they made on their offensive line. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>have to get more productivity out of their running back room.

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<v Speaker 1>I think DeAndre Swift is just a guy in Chicago's

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<v Speaker 1>a destination. And then the Vikings Aaron Jones, unrestricted free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Akers unrestricted free agent ty Chandler doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>anything close to a reliable back. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings are also a Tier one team that could take

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<v Speaker 1>that it needs running back help.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with both of those, I think at ten,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on the way that the board falls. For Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely think that there are scenarios where they would

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<v Speaker 3>take genty And do they feel like they have to

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<v Speaker 3>take a tackle They obviously just recently traded for two guards.

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<v Speaker 3>You probably could use a tackle across from Darnell, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But what if a tackle isn't there that you like? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Ben Johnson comes from the organization that shocked

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<v Speaker 3>everybody by taking Jamier Gibbs three years ago at twelve

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<v Speaker 3>or so. So yeah, I mean he wanted to build

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<v Speaker 3>up the offensive line. Do they feel like they have

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<v Speaker 3>built it up enough with the acquisition of those guards.

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<v Speaker 3>What's their feeling of Braxton Jones the new coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think Gent's in play for them for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly in play for Las Vegas. And if he gets

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<v Speaker 3>through the wickets, that's where Dallas comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna give you some Tier two teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I think New England's in player, even though you know

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<v Speaker 1>Thor I love Ramondre Stevenson, and I think in a

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<v Speaker 1>different unit where he hadn't been stuck playing behind this

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<v Speaker 1>terrible offensive line and terrible quarterbacking for his entire career,

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<v Speaker 1>Romandi would be just like a great a stud playing

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. But the reality is that he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>as productive as as the Patriots would want, and they

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<v Speaker 1>may put some of that blame on him. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think Patriots are in play. I think Kansas City could

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<v Speaker 1>be sneaky in play because Isaiah Pacheco. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they refused to use him in the in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>was just so telling, and maybe this injury that he suffered,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he came back from it. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's just not the same guy in Kansas City, could

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<v Speaker 1>have some question marks at running back and might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find somebody that you know, they just for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. What you know, if they're worried about Pacheco

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<v Speaker 1>that I think that's a possible destination for running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's accurate. Do you think they just

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<v Speaker 1>go right back to Pacheco this year?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's accurate. And I think this where

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get into the depth of the running back class

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<v Speaker 3>with these Tier two teams, because both of those teams

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<v Speaker 3>could use a mix and match back and different kinds,

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<v Speaker 3>right like the Patriots. You could use an airback, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>an explosive back to pair with Remandre And we know

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<v Speaker 3>that the Patriots new head coach fetishizes running the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>He had that silly stat he put out of if

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<v Speaker 3>you run forty or more times, your record is this

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<v Speaker 3>and if you like that that Vrabel just loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I would expect New England to dip their

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<v Speaker 3>toes in at some point with the complimentary back, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I think the complimentary back to Kansas City is

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<v Speaker 3>looking for. It's sort of the opposite where you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>for the meat and potatoes efficiency guy that you could

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<v Speaker 3>pair with Pachecko, And yeah, I mean, and then if

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<v Speaker 3>that guy ends up really really flashing, maybe you have

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<v Speaker 3>your starter of the future, but a guy where you

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have to give big time draft equity there and

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<v Speaker 3>you would get a viable, immediate guy that could mix

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<v Speaker 3>a match with Pachecko.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and seeing Patrick Mahomes getting getting hit more than

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<v Speaker 1>ever last year, and you know you want if they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't end up trying to diversify their offense

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, the running game going Washington, to

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<v Speaker 1>me is a team that's in play. I've never I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a Brian Robinson guy. I just I think he

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<v Speaker 1>takes whatever his offensive line gives you a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Eckler obviously at the very end of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a that's an opportunity for Washington. See

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<v Speaker 1>as the Pollard Spears thing and it was okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Pollard was a little better than I expected last year.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be an opportunity. New Orleans needs to start

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the succession plan. To Alvin Kamara, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're in play, and then I'll give you one sneaky

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<v Speaker 1>one and tell me you think San Francisco Christian McCaffrey

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of question marks. Thoor. We you know, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>them have to go deep into their roster. Maybe San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco is a is A is a not not like

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<v Speaker 1>the first round, second round. But I think San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>might make a move at running back at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the middle part of this draft. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, San Francisco, they sort of have the remember back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day with Green Bay with Ron Wolf where

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<v Speaker 3>he had that thing off he wanted to take developmental

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback every year in the draft and they take the

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<v Speaker 3>one in the sixth or seventh round. San Francisco started

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<v Speaker 3>like that with running backs and and Kyle Shanahan. He

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<v Speaker 3>has his flavor of running back that he likes for

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<v Speaker 3>that that zone system there were you know, just like

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about with those other teams to mix

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<v Speaker 3>and match kind of guys. There will be his zone

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<v Speaker 3>back available that that I think that they'll be attracted

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<v Speaker 3>to fifth, sixth, seventh round. There's there's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>attractive UDFA running backs in this class. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>would expect San Francisco to dip their toe in and

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<v Speaker 3>the only other team from that group but Washington. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Washington fans would would advocate for you bumping them

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<v Speaker 3>to the Tier one. When I've been on the Washington

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<v Speaker 3>radio shows, every single time they're asking me about the

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<v Speaker 3>running back class. They are not looking for a complimentary

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<v Speaker 3>back for Brian Robbinson. The fans of that organization, they

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<v Speaker 3>are looking for someone to replace. Yeah, totally, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think Washington's in play potent one of the teams that

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<v Speaker 3>could take a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>On day two, I am moving Washington into my Tier

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<v Speaker 1>one spark part of my notes of this show not

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, nobody will ever see it again

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<v Speaker 1>except me, But I'm with you on that. I am

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely with you. All right. So let's we got six

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<v Speaker 1>guys to talk to, talk through in the show, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>dive in. I almost feel like the guy we should

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<v Speaker 1>spend the least amount of time on is Ashton Genty

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<v Speaker 1>because he's so popular and he's so good that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that people know the most about him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the landing spot we could be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashton Genty is the first overall player taken in redraft leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about the guy who had more yards

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<v Speaker 1>after contact than any other running back had in total.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ashton Genty is insaying that comp that some people

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<v Speaker 3>had for him in college was was Michael Myers from

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<v Speaker 3>the Halloween movies, because he's a killer, and and the

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<v Speaker 3>way he stands in the backfield, like right before the snap,

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of looks like Michael Myer's standing. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of funny if we have to keep it to

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<v Speaker 3>a football camp minus Ladanian Tomlinson gent five eight, two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred eleven pounds. He is impossible to tackle. He's the

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<v Speaker 3>hardest guy to tackle. Since I've been doing the draft

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<v Speaker 3>work over the last decade. You mentioned the broken tackle numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>the yards after contact numbers. They they're like video game numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>That the next closest guy in misstackles forest was forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine away. That was Cam Skatabu. It was forty nine

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<v Speaker 3>broken tackles away from what Ashon Genty did last year

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<v Speaker 3>and nine only forty nine. And he proved it against

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<v Speaker 3>the better teams, right like against Oregon. Initially, Oregon was

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<v Speaker 3>the only power for a team that finished the regular

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<v Speaker 3>season undefeated. In twenty twenty four, the Boise State came

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<v Speaker 3>as close as anybody to knocking them off. They only

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<v Speaker 3>lost by a field goal because Ashton Genty was doing

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<v Speaker 3>his thing against Oregon, against Penn State and the College

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<v Speaker 3>Football Playoff. Penn State had that nasty, nasty defense and

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<v Speaker 3>they loaded the box up against gen T and Genty

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<v Speaker 3>was still getting his yards there. There was one run

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<v Speaker 3>in that game where he either broke six or seven

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<v Speaker 3>tackle attempts, like you're talking about, just absolutely ridiculous stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other thing with him, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>addition to this stuff, it's a guy who is a

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<v Speaker 3>tremendous receiver, and I think that's the aspect of his

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<v Speaker 3>game that people sleep on, people that are just getting

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<v Speaker 3>exposure to him off twenty twenty four because Boise they

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<v Speaker 3>changed his usage in twenty twenty four where they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to funnel the touches he was getting as a receiver

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<v Speaker 3>all into rushing because they wanted him to make a

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<v Speaker 3>run at Barry Sanders's record. It was a part of

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<v Speaker 3>their pitch for Genty to return to Boise State as

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<v Speaker 3>a true junior, you know, which they ended up doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Gents's going to be the last G five

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<v Speaker 3>first round pick at the skills that we ever see

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<v Speaker 3>stay his entire career in the G five. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is sort of a dinosaur, But in twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>he was a killer as a receiver. They motioned him

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<v Speaker 3>out into the slot to the boundary I think he took.

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<v Speaker 3>It was something like ten percent eleven twelve percent of

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<v Speaker 3>his snaps were taken out wide, and he was awesome

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<v Speaker 3>with that. He was awesome with his his routes out

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<v Speaker 3>of the backfield. And it's no surprise that he is

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<v Speaker 3>a really, really good receiver because as a junior in

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<v Speaker 3>high school he took over Marvin Mims's job on his

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<v Speaker 3>high school in Frisco, Texas as the slot receiver on

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<v Speaker 3>that team. Yes, it was only it was only Genti's

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<v Speaker 3>second year back in America. This is a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>learned to play the sport in Italy. He was living

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<v Speaker 3>on an Italian naval base and he played there through

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<v Speaker 3>ninth grade and his team entered in ninth grade. They

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<v Speaker 3>ended up winning like the euro title, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>they went around to other naval bases and we're playing

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<v Speaker 3>those teams they you know, Germany and like all these

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<v Speaker 3>other different ones. They ended up winning it. Or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah he was. He goes to America Frisco and

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<v Speaker 3>as I'm sorry, as a junior, he shifted out to

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<v Speaker 3>the slot, replaced Mims, like I said, because that team

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<v Speaker 3>had a guy who ended up signing a scholarship to

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<v Speaker 3>P four at running back, this kid named jad and

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<v Speaker 3>Nixon who went to Okahoma State and then Western Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>But Genty was All conference in Texas high school football's

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<v Speaker 3>highest level as a receiver as a junior, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he ends up as a senior just went utterly ballistic

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<v Speaker 3>replacing Nixon as the running back there. That's what you know,

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<v Speaker 3>between living in Italy before that, between having to play

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<v Speaker 3>receiver as a junior, which is your most important recruiting

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<v Speaker 3>season in high school, that's why he was under recruited.

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<v Speaker 3>Boise got an early Boise the team that had developed

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<v Speaker 3>the last star running back from Frisco, Texas, a guy

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<v Speaker 3>named Jay a Jai and so Geny, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>Jaya Jay's picture is hanging all over the facilities there

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<v Speaker 3>in Frisco at high school whatever. So Genty, it was

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<v Speaker 3>a dream come true. That's how he ended up at Boise,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and the rest was history. But yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the best running back prospect entered the NFL. Sin

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<v Speaker 3>Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. You in people can see follow your

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<v Speaker 1>work at at fantasylife dot com. And you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie running back article, A gravy trained, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff from But you mentioned that last

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<v Speaker 1>year at Boise State, Uh, when he was when he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked to go as a receiver, he cut forty

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<v Speaker 1>four or forty eight targets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I mean, yeah, year before, two seasons ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I should say. So he's going to help out

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<v Speaker 1>it through the air, you know, potentially depending on his

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<v Speaker 1>landing spot a lot more than maybe people realize. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's the obvious first pick in dynasty leagues and might

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<v Speaker 1>be the first pick and redraft as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Now, let's go to a player that that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I might disagree a little bit more on.

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<v Speaker 1>Amarian Hampton is your number two running back right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And your comp here is a guy who I loved

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<v Speaker 1>in during his playing days. Deuce McAllister, Yeah, talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about Omarian Hampton?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Him? And do is they they have the same

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<v Speaker 3>frame and they have the same running style. Like it

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<v Speaker 3>sort of eerie watching them, you know, and thinking back

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<v Speaker 3>to Deuce McCalister because it's it's the upright type runner

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the well fortified frame. McCalister was six

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<v Speaker 3>one two twenty two coming out. Hampton was five to

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<v Speaker 3>eleven two twenty one. McAlister ran a four to four

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<v Speaker 3>to one with the thirty seven and a half vertical

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<v Speaker 3>and Hampton was four four six thirty eight inch vertical.

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<v Speaker 3>But with Hampton, it's a bullet trained guy. Once he

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<v Speaker 3>gets into the open field, you're you're talking about legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>sprinter wheels on, you know, at two hundred twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>pounds or he can get up to two hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five the playing weight. He's good between the tackles. You're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to get him with an off angle attempt

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<v Speaker 3>or an arm tackle attempt, So you get sort of

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<v Speaker 3>the meat and potatoes efficiency with him, with the possibility

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<v Speaker 3>for dingers. As a receiver, He's not going to run

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<v Speaker 3>any you know, super impressive routes beyond the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 3>but he will give you value between checkdowns, screens and

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<v Speaker 3>swings running with the ball apt for the catch. That

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<v Speaker 3>the idea basically on those latter two things is just

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<v Speaker 3>get him the ball in space with the convoy in

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<v Speaker 3>front of him, and then let him do the hit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, his thing of good luck trying to tackle

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<v Speaker 3>me in space defensive bat. So that's that's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>with the Marian Hampton.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really impressed with his balance at the point

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<v Speaker 1>of contact and his his his hips and thighs are gigantic,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is so strong lower body that he is

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<v Speaker 1>a he is a really really tough tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he sure has. This is someone who is has

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<v Speaker 3>you could say, maniacal work ethic. You could also just

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<v Speaker 3>say he was obsessed with the weight room, like from

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<v Speaker 3>a really early age. If you go into the weight

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<v Speaker 3>room of his high school, you'll see Omar. They have

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<v Speaker 3>like a record board or whatever Omar and Hampton's name

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<v Speaker 3>is all over it. For every single lift that they

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<v Speaker 3>had there, they had to get him to stop lifting

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<v Speaker 3>some of the thing because he with the squad rack.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was he had gotten up enough with

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<v Speaker 3>it in high school where it was starting to bend

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<v Speaker 3>the bars and they were like, oh, Marion, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to stop putting weight on there or it's going to break,

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<v Speaker 3>so so he he could lift more than than their

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<v Speaker 3>weight room could handle. But yeah, you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 3>been maniacal with that forever and charge to your point

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<v Speaker 3>that the lower leg drive is crazy, right, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to get him on the ground for

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<v Speaker 3>those legs to to stop churning. And you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a speed to power conversion thing there, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that goes in with the contact balance. It's that bullet

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<v Speaker 3>train thing that I'm talking to, the locomotive thing. Once

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<v Speaker 3>he gets on that straight line, he's got the acceleration

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, and starts to build up to that speed.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really really difficult he gets on his path because

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be you know, it's the thing of

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<v Speaker 3>you got to step on the train tracks and the

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<v Speaker 3>train's coming through. To get him on the ground, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to need multiple guys. You need to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you have Omari and Hampton dead to rights are

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<v Speaker 3>on the line of scrimmage or it's it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's the Trannosaurus Rex breaking containment at Jurassic Park

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<v Speaker 3>and all the sirens are going off. What he gets

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<v Speaker 3>into the second level, you got a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the only thing I saw, and I watched

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<v Speaker 1>through every snap of two or three games of his

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see the long speed and I didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had some long runs, but he would get tracked

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<v Speaker 1>down a lot on the in the least in the

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<v Speaker 1>games that I watched. And so do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a Marion Hampton has got the explosive big playability or

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<v Speaker 1>is he more of the guy that I saw where

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<v Speaker 1>he's breaking a tackle or two and then gets pulled down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eight yards downfield rather than making those you know,

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<v Speaker 1>long stretch runs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the speed that we saw more or

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<v Speaker 3>less plays on the field, like where he I saw

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<v Speaker 3>him got tracked. I mean, famously he was tracked down

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<v Speaker 3>by Nate Wiggins the Clemson corner the burner, right like,

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<v Speaker 3>and Nate Wiggins came from I don't know, twelve fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>yards behind him and ended up catching up doing the

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<v Speaker 3>length of the field. But Nate Wagans, of course was

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<v Speaker 3>what something like that. Yeah, just an absolute burner. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you know, anyone four or five or less,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly he's gonna be out running and the power element

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<v Speaker 3>with him allows him to access that speed, right, like

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<v Speaker 3>getting through the line and stuff like that. You're, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you're gonna need the flush tackle at time.

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<v Speaker 3>You're you're probably gonna need multiple guys. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's it's he's not he's certainly not four to

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<v Speaker 3>three speed. And the other nitpick on him with the

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<v Speaker 3>running style is the hips in the lower half while

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 3>they're pistons, right, I mean, the strength it speaks for itself.

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<v Speaker 3>There is some stiffness there and that goes you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the thing we talk about with like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the UFC with bodybuilders, the guys with all the muscles,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, you can punch yourself out a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get a little bit tight. That's his lower

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<v Speaker 3>half is a little bit tight where you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>certainly not the joystick agility. This is not someone who

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to evade. You will get the one cut

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 3>with him, but you're not getting many more direction changes

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<v Speaker 3>than that. Yeah, he's trying to he's trying to blast

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<v Speaker 3>through and then like I said, get into the open

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<v Speaker 3>field and get on a straight line and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>good luck. But yeah, that's you're not getting a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of evasion with Omri and Hampton, and Hampton.

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<v Speaker 1>To me looks as a receiver. He he can catch.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't look like a naturally gifted fluid pass catcher

0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that that's right. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly the route running is not there, right, Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just the leak out to check down the screen, the

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 3>swing that he has. But yeah, the ball it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the most natural ball skills either. He is clearly most

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable getting that ball from the quarterback and then he

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<v Speaker 3>can pick the attack plan after that and start rumbling

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<v Speaker 3>downhill or whatever. But yeah, there's guys in this class

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 3>where they have that extremely smooth it's not just the

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<v Speaker 3>good hands, but like the extremely smooth conversion from receiver

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.200
<v Speaker 3>to runner, you know where you don't lose a beat

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 3>in there and you can just go upfield and fluidly

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<v Speaker 3>and now you're starting to chew up the yards. Like Hampton,

0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 3>there is a click with it right where okay, we

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 3>got to make sure that balls and okay, we got it.

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Now we're looking upfield. So yeah, it's it's it's limited. Ish.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he probably gets a little bit more credit

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<v Speaker 3>for a receiver than he actually is without the context

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<v Speaker 3>being explained. He is the yards after the catch threat

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.479
<v Speaker 3>every single time. But yeah, there there are contextual things

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 3>you have to keep in mind there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's that's what Mari and Hampton. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>your number three running back and somebody who honestly I

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<v Speaker 1>like more than Hampton from a fantasy standpoint, it's Travion Henderson.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about Ohio state backs today in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk. Let's talk about Travon Henderson. And your comp

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<v Speaker 1>for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Clinton Portis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, baby, Yeah, we're a monster for most of his career.

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<v Speaker 3>We're hopping in the time machine for some of these comps.

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Travion was a tough guy to comp because

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 3>he has sort of a unique game where at the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL combine and he waited at two h two, but

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<v Speaker 3>in college he was playing closer to the threshold size

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<v Speaker 3>two twelve, two thirteen, which basically, like we used to

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<v Speaker 3>consider two fifteen threshold for running backs, it's come down

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, you know now it's it's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>two twelve. So Trevion Henderson is a threshold size back,

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 3>but he has the ridiculous explosion. So you're talking more

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 3>athletic than your typical threshold size back. And for the

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 3>game that he has with the the the athletic explosion,

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 3>the outside the tackle stuff that receiving utility, Generally those

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 3>guys are more dancers or their their game. It's more

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 3>you have more agility there. Henderson is unique where it's

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 3>the straight line bullet thing he is. He he is

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 3>not looking to evade. I mean even between the tackles,

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 3>it's the shout out of a cannon thing. And and

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 3>he has a unique game between the tackles because this

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 3>kid is not afraid of contact whatsoever. It's gotten him

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 3>in trouble a couple of times. But there are there's

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of backs in this class. I could

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<v Speaker 3>point you to where they don't even try with pass

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<v Speaker 3>pro or they just kind of ten and then they

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<v Speaker 3>play paddy Cake and they stink at it. Tradyon Henderson

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<v Speaker 3>loves to scrap that guy like when he gets an

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>upper the free blitzer coming through a gap. That that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the guys in this class who was licking

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>his jobs and he gets down in his stands and

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 3>he is looking to blast people and he did his

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 3>his That tape is fun. He had some fun run

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 3>blocking tape as well, getting up in front of Will

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Howell on quarterback around the edge. Yeah, I saw him

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 3>blast a few guys with with that as well. But

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a more physical game than you're accustomed to

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 3>from from a back like this. But the athletic explosion

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 3>plays at that size four four three At the combine,

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.719
<v Speaker 3>he had the nine to four to three ras. All

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 3>that stuff was good. The the acceleration speaks for itself.

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 3>The question ish with Trevion Henderson is as a true freshman,

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 3>he was a five star recruit coming out of Virginia.

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 3>He was the belcoyw back for Ohio State as a

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 3>true freshman, and he was great as a sophomore and junior.

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 3>They wanted him to be the same. Both years were

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 3>injury ravage. It was stopping started is one nagging injury

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 3>after another. So they went out and they got Quinjohn

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 3>Jenkins and the transfer port Ohio State did about a

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 3>year ago to pair with him, and it turned out

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 3>to be perfect on the national title winning Ohio State Buckeyes.

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Judkins took the meat and potatoes type work and then

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 3>it freed Henderson to do his thing. And Henderson he

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 3>averaged it was like eleven touches per game, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was greatly cut down from a couple of years before

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 3>that when he was on the field. However, he played

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 3>sixteen games during that national title run and he was

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<v Speaker 3>not injured one time, so that was really good for

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<v Speaker 3>the evaluation. I think it's also instructive thinking about the

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 3>way that his NFL team should think about him. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Trevion Henderson also in the NFL, should be paired

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<v Speaker 3>with in early down sort of meat and potatoes type guy,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 3>where you save Trevion Henderson the wreckage of his you know,

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 3>straight ahead bullet game and all the punishment that he takes,

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>try to prevent him from getting the nagging injuries that

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 3>we saw his the middle two years in college, and

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 3>leave him healthy for the end of the season. Where

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<v Speaker 3>for instance, Church, you remember the semi game against Texas

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>where it was really close. Right before halftime, Texas had

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<v Speaker 3>just scored a touchdown and it appeared as though Ohio

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 3>State was going to kill the clock and then get

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 3>into halftime. They decided to run a delayed screen to

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Travon Henderson, and Travian Henderson took it seventy five yards

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 3>for a touch. It was all him. He caught that

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 3>ball behind the line of scrimmagers, all Travion Henderson, and

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 3>flipped that entire game Texas instead of going into halftime

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 3>where the game it's you're right there and you know

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 3>you have the momentum. Now you go into halftime year down.

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it was by ten points at that point,

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 3>just utterly demoralized in Ohio State obviously pulled away. You

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>know after that, if you're the NFL team at Travion Henderson,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 3>you have to take some of that between the tackles

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 3>work from him. He would love to do it. He

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 3>would love to beat the bell callet there. The whole time.

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 3>You have to protect him from himself so that you

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 3>have access to him later on in the season and

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<v Speaker 3>in the playoffs to create those game flipping plays like

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 3>he did against Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to highlight a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed about tre Von Henderson that that I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>interested in. First, he's this upright track star runner. Usually

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>those guys have our long striders, and long strides are

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a mixed bag in the NFL. What I loved about

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>him is he's got choppy footwork that lets him instantly

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>cut hard because when he needs to cut, he's not

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of some loping stretch, right, He's got

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a foot on the ground and he can make that

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>cut really quickly. And then, as you already mentioned, the

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>acceleration is just remarkable for him, and they Ohio State

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>used him on a lot of stretch plays. And the

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>other thing that I noticed, in addition to his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to cut hard and accelerate on the stretch play, when

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>he sees his whole he almost never chooses the wrong

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>lane thor he knows instinctively where where to go on

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>those stretch plays. And that's not an automatic in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, and this is you know, a lot. We

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 3>don't go off the field a lot with some of

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 3>these evaluations. But I think it's important to bring up

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Trevion Henderson. That kid could have gotten academic scholarships almost

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 3>to anywhere that he wanted to go. He was a

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 3>straight A student in high school. There's a funny story

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 3>where his mom wanted him and his brothers to you know,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>get out of have a key to get out of town,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, after their high school graduation. So she offered them.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 3>It was like one hundred bucks for straight A report cards.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Trevion Henderson never gave her anything less than a straight

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 3>A report card, and I believe in Ohio State he

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 3>finished with a four point three. This is an extremely

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 3>extremely bright young man and you can tell that to

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.479
<v Speaker 3>your point charts that he sees the game slower than

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>other people. He gets the information quicker and he synthesizes

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>it quicker. And that has to do. You know, you're

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 3>talking about the thing of we con track the movement

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 3>of the second level defenders while we simultaneously paying attention

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 3>to the flow of the line of scrimmage right and

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>what's going on there and the opening of the holes

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. And he can do that well,

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 3>paying attention, like I said, to the flow of the

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 3>second level guys and start doing interesting things as far

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 3>as setting them up. But you see this as well

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 3>with the pass blocking, where there's some guys where even

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 3>if they try, the guys that give effort, they don't

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>denote the danger right away. You know, It's like they're

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 3>like a sparkle. They'll they're like a butterfly and they'll

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>get distracted by that and they take a couple steps forward,

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, they're not a depth to

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>complete the block of the most present danger. There's a

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 3>guy who's looped around that you know, the right tackle

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 3>who's coming in now, but you don't have the depth

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>to make that block. Henderson has a really good sense

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 3>of all that stuff, of where every piece is on

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>the chess board, you know, no matter if he's the runner,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 3>if he's the blocker, whatever it is. And the other

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>thing that you said charge that I wanted to hit

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>on really quick, that thing you're talking about with the

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 3>sprinter thing, with the way that he runs, you know,

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>you were talking about those shorter, choppier steps with the

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 3>guy who is sort of the angular runner. I thought

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>of him. It's like springy, right, like that, you know,

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>like the guy who got in trouble for others stuff.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>But that sprinter that had the you know, the the

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>what do you call it, like the springs for legs

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. And there was like a Pastoris there.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>There was like that oh yeah, yeah, yeah, killing a guy.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Who ended up killing a guy. Yeah, So I almost

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't bring him up, but it was like this. There

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 3>was a debate in the sprinting community for a while

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 3>of like, oh, the springs are those unfair, But that's

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>like how Treyvon Henderson runs like. His legs are absolutely

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>like that. You have to upbraak torso and then you

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>have the bent knees and it's just super springy. And

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 3>that's how he can just shoot off, you know, speaking

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to the acceleration. You have all that lower body strength

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>and and just push off really quick and and and

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>access his top speed really quickly.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to talk about an next runner. It's

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Johnson. And when we take a quick break, when

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're going to talk about what I

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>think is one of the best fantasy prospects for this

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>coming season. When we return to Fantasy Football Weekly, Welcome

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>back Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul Charchie and throw An Eystrom

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>with you. We are breaking down the rookie running back class.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so deep, it's filled with so many people. We're

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>doing deep dives on six different runners. We've already done three.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to turn my attention thor to the guy

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>who carried the entire Iowa offense, Caleb Johnson. Yes, your

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>comp for Caleb Johnson is drool worthy and accurate. Tell

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>people who it.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Is it's Larry Johnson from Penn State back in the day.

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>And for people that meet you know, and then the

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 3>chiefs of course in the NFL, like people that don't

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 3>remember Larry Johnson. It was the tall, well built kind

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>of zone runner who want He ripped off a whole

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>bunch of explosive runs, you know, the ability to get

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 3>through the line, that good vision, the good patients, and

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 3>then once he got up to top speed, that's where

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 3>he became the locomotive. And Caleb Johnson is very very

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 3>similar six to one two twenty four pure zone runner

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Iowa Tim Lester, their new offensive coordinator twenty twenty four.

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 3>He had come from the Packers and the Iowa rushing offense.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 3>The concepts they use between the inside zone, the middle zone,

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 3>and then the stretch outside zone type concepts. Those were

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 3>ial to what the Packers run, which is very very

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 3>similar to what the Rams run with the forty nine

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Ers run a couple other teams in the NFL. So

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be plenty of shooters that are interested in

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Caleb Johnson and the outside zone system. He will evoke

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>for you a lev On Bell type with the patients

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 3>picking down the line his ability to force linebackers to

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 3>declare their gap before he does, which is the thing

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>that allows him to get through more open holes than

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I think other analogous type zone backs, and it's the

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>thing that allows him to get the runway to access

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 3>the high end top speed. Now, Caleb Johnson only ran

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>a four to five to seven at the NFL Combine.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>And surprised me because he plays faster than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's break this thing down because it actually makes

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>sense and in a way that shouldn't kill his evaluation

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 3>for folks where it jives with his profile on the field,

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 3>even though he had the ninety eight percent i'll breakaway

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 3>rate in college, et cetera. Yeah, the four to five

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>to seven on that run, Caleb Johnson actually hit twenty

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>two miles per hour max speed, which was high end

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 3>for the running back clad the entirety of it. The

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.479
<v Speaker 3>interesting thing is IOWA was GPS. They clocked him at

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty two point two miles per hour max speed on

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 3>one of his runs last year, so it was actually

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 3>equivalent to that, and you're wondering if you hit that

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 3>top speed And also he had it was something like

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 3>the sixth of the seventh fastest max acceleration on that

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>run as well, so it's like counter then he finished

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 3>with a four or five seven he fished doesn't add

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>up exactly. It's because he had a one six two

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 3>ten yards split, which was seventh percentile at the NFL combine,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, going back twenty five years or so. He

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>needs the three, four or five steps to get too

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 3>top speed. And that's the thing on those stretched one

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 3>concepts when he has given himself that gaping hole because

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 3>he has sucked the linebackers into the false doors and

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 3>now they're caught up in the muck of humanity there

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 3>where he then threw there. Once he is into the

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 3>second level, and certainly when he is approaching the third,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>he has now gotten up to his top speed, which

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>again is high high end. It's that stuff initially, but

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the zone concepts itself and how good he is, the

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 3>decisions he makes, and the manipulation of the second level defenders,

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 3>it's what allows him to access that high end speed

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 3>more than I think.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, some people might think, but we're not drafting

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Johnson in my mind for his speed. It's the

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>big thing here is he's so hard to tackle. His

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 1>balance is so good, so powerful, he breaks so many tackles.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>You noted that Caleb Johnson ninety fourth and percentile in

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>yards after contact per attempt. Yep, Yes, this is what

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>he's got. He is a true power back. He's a

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>goal line back, and I feel like he's just built

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 1>for fantasy points.

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's This is another similarity with with Larry Penn

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 3>State's Larry Johnson, where Larry Johnson ran upright even though

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 3>he was tall, but he broke a ton of tackles

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 3>and it was the contact balance and then the power thing.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing with Caleb Johnson, and it's really

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 3>deceiving because he runs so upright, So it would seem

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 3>like it would be pretty easy to get a guy

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 3>like that down. It's not. It's I think I compared

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 3>him to a light pole caked in grease, like when yes,

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 3>it's great phrase, Yeah, they just can't. Like there was

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>this one explosive reception that he had against Nebraska last year.

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>There was like three guys who had their arms wrapped

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 3>around him something like five yards upfield, and none of

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 3>them could impede his forward progress, Like they just kept

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 3>flipping off of him like he was this enormous banana

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.919
<v Speaker 3>peel and all of a sudden, you think the play's over,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, he's now running in the

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 3>secondary and it's like, oh my god, no one's gonna

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 3>catch him, right, and then he just runs the rest

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>of the way. And that's what it is. You're not

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna It's the same thing where you're not gonna get

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 3>him with an arm tackle attempt or an off angle attempt.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 3>So you got to get him. And this is this

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 3>is a you know, I was mentioning this with Hampton,

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 3>it's all the more true with Caleb Johnson. You need

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>to get this guy around the line of scrimmage. You

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 3>cannot allow him to access that top speed that is

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 3>where he is a true, true problem. But because of

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 3>how good he is in his zone concept with the

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 3>patients and the vision, that's what makes it really difficult

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 3>to be able to confront him with linebackers or descending

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 3>defenders around the line of scrimmage, you know, especially on

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 3>those outside zone concepts.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move to your your next running back.

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>We've mentioned earlier with Travon Henderson that he would not

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>be the last Ohio State running back. We would talk

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>about in this show. Your number five ranked running back

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is quinch On Judkins from Ohio State, who posted that

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>his RASS score was a nine point eight nine crazy y.

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 3>I certainly was not expecting it, although I started get

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 3>a hint from it when the day before this was

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 3>last Friday in Indianapolis, the day before the running backs test,

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>that I asked Quinn John Jenkins at his podium session.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, you are known for having such

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 3>good bursts and acceleration, but people have questioned your long speed.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Is that is that? Because he had already said he

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 3>was going to test do all the tests, and I said,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 3>is that something you're looking forward to going out? A

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 3>question that you're looking forward to going out and answering

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 3>and and and he just smiled at me, you know,

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 3>and and you know, was like absolutely, you know. And

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 3>and he goes out and test better than we thought.

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned that the nine to eight nine RASS five

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 3>eleven two twenty one is extremely impressive. That ridiculous burst

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 3>of his that he is famous for. That that was

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 3>a parent out there. He had a one to five

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 3>to one ten yard split, which was number two among

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 3>running backs four foot eight forty yard dash was was

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 3>really good at his size, thirty eight and a half

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>vertical inch was top five for the running backs, and

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 3>as eleven foot broad jump led the group right and

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 3>that goes into the explosion on the first couple steps,

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, and and the acceleration there. I love him

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 3>as a as a natural runner. I mean, that's like

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the thing that all of his coaches you talk to

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Lane Keffen, Ryan Day, that they just in his high

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 3>school coach, that they go nuts about. It's his vision.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 3>He just has really really good vision and feel, and

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 3>then he naturally toggles the tempo and then the clean footwork,

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, depending on what he is perceiving and the

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 3>planning has at that time. It's just really really natural.

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 3>The thing that you ding him for it's on the

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 3>passing downs. He does have good hands, he doesn't drop

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 3>the ball, but it's another thing where he's not great

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 3>running the routes and he is not a great pass

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 3>blocker either. I think the thing that Ohio State had

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>going last year that we were talking about with that platoon,

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 3>that's what you're looking for for Judkins at the next level.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 3>He can handle a heavy workload, especially the first two

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 3>years at Ole Miss when he was the bellcout back,

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 3>and it was they run the hyper tempo offense that

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 3>you know at Ole Miss, So be like, you know,

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 3>six yard run for drunkins, sprint back to the line,

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 3>immediately handle the ball again. You know, now five yard runs,

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 3>sprint back to the line. So he the the carry

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 3>numbers just accelerated there. We know that he can handle

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 3>that without getting nicked up. So a team that could

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 3>use a bellcout back but like you know, can give

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 3>him is the quote unquote rests on obvious passing downs

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 3>because you have that air back. That's what he should

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 3>should be going to in the NFL.

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I I saw a lot of things I like.

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I didn't give you a chance to

0:39:55.840 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>mention your comp for Judkins, it is Joe Joe Mixon,

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and I can I can see it originally when you

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was when I was watching Judkins' play, I

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, I didn't see it at first, But the

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>more I looked at him, the more the more I

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>can see it. Especially uh this, especially because of how

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of light on his feet he can be despite

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's carrying two hundred and twenty one pounds.

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, with everything that you just described, he should

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>not be able to do that at two hundred and

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty one pounds. You know, these are the these are

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the traits of somebody who's carrying like fifteen fewer pounds.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The feet there on that kid, Yeah, it definitely

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>you don't think you're dealing with a back that bag with. Yeah,

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 3>how light on his feet he is, and how precise

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and sudden the footwork is. And you forget this guy.

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 3>He's in the same sort of size phylum as Omari

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and Hanton and Caleb Johnson, just a little bit shorter

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>but than Caleb. But yeah, at the two hundred and

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 3>twenty one pounds and then testing as well as he

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 3>did that size, I just thought it was super impressive.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 3>That tape speaks for itself. With Judkins, he's gonna be

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna get a lot of carries in the NFL.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And right from the get all right, our final guy,

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it's time to rock Chuck.

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 3>You ready, Yes, Yes, let's do it.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Devin Neil. Now, I think he's better than the sixth

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the best back in this class, And I worry that

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>you're so concerned about a perceived personal bias for your

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>alma mater, that you've overcompensated and you're actually underappreciating Neil.

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I love how shifty he is. Tacklers have got Devin

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Neil dead to rights and they don't get a hand

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>on him. They they they completely whiff on him. His

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>footwork is so good, and I love that he's a

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>good pass catcher. And I'll let you expand on all

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of that. You know way more about it than I do.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>But I love this kid and I feel like he

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is he is a three down back who's going to

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>be a big fantasy factor in the right spot.

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely agree with all that. It's it's at

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 3>his size, the footwork, because he was two hundred and

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 3>twenty pounds at the Senior Bowl. He at the combine

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.280
<v Speaker 3>two hundred and thirteen. He cuts seven pounds for the testing,

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 3>but you're talking about a two hundred and twenty pound

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 3>back and just absolutely ludicrous footwork, you know, and and

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 3>the thing of making people miss. He does that in

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the second level and out in space. But the footwork,

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 3>it also plays between the tackles and around the line

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 3>of scrimmage with sort of these micro cuts that he

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 3>does that where it just sort of it's hard to

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 3>tell where he is going. Because of that, he can

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>change the direction so quickly and so fluidly, like and

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 3>sometimes behind the line. You'll see it a couple of

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 3>different times where it's like is he gonna go outside, No,

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 3>he's going inside. No, actually he's it's going between the

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 3>gard and the tackle, like just because of these these

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 3>contortions of his footwork and his upper body. It's you know,

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 3>behind the line is just changing where the direction where

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 3>he's had his pointed. It's really really cool watching that

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 3>guy run. You have that, and then the receiving utility.

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>He was a good receiver at Kansas. They used him,

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>they didn't use him enough. I'll say that, like as

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 3>a receiver, they had three Kansas did three veteran seniors

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 3>starting receivers and a starting senior tight end. They used

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>their passing concepts to go to those guys. And then

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Neil was always the checkdown too, so he would get

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 3>the checkdowns where you know, typically it was you know,

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 3>the quarterbacks under duress and then you know you don't

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 3>have a lot to work with there once you end

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 3>up getting the ball. The times where we have seen

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Devin Neil allowed to run routes down the field. It's

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 3>the footwork. You can't stay with the guy's footwork, right,

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, by definition he is a good route

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 3>runner because but he's going to create the separation every

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 3>time you literally cannot stay with his footwork. So he

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>got to do more of that stuff. At the senior ball,

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the routes five, seven, ten yards downfield and he was

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 3>always open. Again, a linebacker or a strong safety, you're

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 3>not staying with the footwork. So I think at the

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 3>NFL level you were gonna see a much better receiver

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 3>than you saw Kansas, where it was sort of the

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 3>part back type concepts and he got the ball.

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>What I liked about seeing seeing Devin Neil's a receiver

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>or he's just so natural and fluid as a receiver.

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>It looks like he was born to catch the ball,

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and I love I love to see running backs who

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>look that way. And I think that's ultimately going to

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>unlock a lot more productivity than what Kansas had with

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Devin Neil and some team. You know, I'm not do

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you have a do you have a rough estimate for

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the round Devin Neil is going to go in is

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 1>he trending to round two? Round three?

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to go in round three.

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, round three, some team Minnesota is going to find

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a three down back in the third round. That it

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>can be. Absolutely, he's just NFL traits and I I love,

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm really really optimistic on Devin Neil.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you don't have to you know, you mentioned

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>a three down thing, you don't You don't ever have

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 3>to take him off the field because he can now

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.919
<v Speaker 3>pass block as well. That's an area of his game

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 3>that's getting better. His Initially in Lawrence, he was not

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 3>a good pass blocker. He told us at the Senior Bowl, like,

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 3>heading into last season, he knew, He's like because I

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 3>know in the NFL, like you have to pass block

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 3>to stay on the field. And he got a whole

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 3>lot better at it. And with the frame, the footwork,

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the strongholder half, you can project additional improvement after what

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 3>you saw last year. So I think that that's a

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>guy who, if nothing else, is going to be passable

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 3>in that phase in the NFL, if not develop into

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<v Speaker 3>a solid one. The receiving we're talking about that really

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<v Speaker 3>really good and pretends well to the NFL and such

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<v Speaker 3>a natural and fluid runner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your comp for Devin Neil is durable.

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<v Speaker 3>Ja the aforementioned j guy, he's out there. He's like

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<v Speaker 3>man in my second shout out of Fantasy Football Weekly

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<v Speaker 3>this week, but you know, recalled j Jaii coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of Boise State. I love that kid's game. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just a thing of like he didn't have cartilage and

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<v Speaker 3>his knees. Knew that there was a you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>a sand timer on his time in the NFL. Think

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<v Speaker 3>about if Jay Jay coming to the NFL with perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>healthy knees without durability concerns. I think that's what Devin

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<v Speaker 3>Neil is. It's it's the big guy with the really

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<v Speaker 3>really really smooth feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Great work on part one of our running back breakdown.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hit even more players next week on next

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<v Speaker 1>week's Fantasy Football Weekly, and more running backs in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so a deeper dive on more guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>just because we've got like the what's the draftable pool

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<v Speaker 1>here of playoff running backs store for this draft class?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we talking about guys who have like a

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<v Speaker 1>draftable great? How many oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Man around thirty?

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane pretty potentially draftable running backs. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit We've done six, we're not gonna hit twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>next week, but we will have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>hitting maybe like a dozen guys. How does that sound

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<v Speaker 1>for now?

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds great to me. We have to it's this

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<v Speaker 3>historic running back class we got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds great, and I will try to hit

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<v Speaker 1>you with what I think is the best running back

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<v Speaker 1>class of like the last thirty years. When we talk

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<v Speaker 1>next week to great job thor thanks for listening, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Please stay tuned next week more Fantasy Football Weekly coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in part two of our rookie running back draft

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<v Speaker 1>class coming up,