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Speaker 1: stay a while. Check in with Sal Palantonio. He was
Speaker 1: in Canton last night. He talked to Ben Roethlisberger. Also
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Jerry Jones. So we'll talk to
Speaker 1: the great ESPN NFL reporter. He'll join us coming up.
Speaker 1: Not much of a game last night, but it was
Speaker 1: great to just have the noise there. I thought the
Speaker 1: interviews that were interspersed throughout the game they were great
Speaker 1: as well. The Steelers beat the Cowboys. Not quite sure
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott's injury. Feels like there's a little bit
Speaker 1: more there than what they're letting on. And I'm not
Speaker 1: the only voice saying that. Troy Aikman said that last
Speaker 1: night during the game. There have been these reports. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have that not in capital letters, but there have
Speaker 1: been reports on Deshaun Watson and our things starting to
Speaker 1: heat up. Are the Eagles going to you know, pony
Speaker 1: up how many draft picks to get Deshaun Watson? Is
Speaker 1: it inevitable? Is something going to happen? And everything that
Speaker 1: I've been told is no, nothing is inevitable. In fact,
Speaker 1: Mike Florio reported on Pro Football Talk that, hey, the
Speaker 1: Texans aren't even returning calls now. Jay Glazer talked about
Speaker 1: this as well from Fox Sports that because people are
Speaker 1: lowballing the Texans for Deshaun Watson, the Texans are just
Speaker 1: not returning those calls. You call, leave a message, Hey,
Speaker 1: you have a crappy offer for Deshaun Watson. Leave a
Speaker 1: message after the beep, because that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: They just don't want to engage. But the you know,
Speaker 1: something that's eminent with Deshaun Watson, it's just not happening
Speaker 1: right now because you don't know, there's a great mystery
Speaker 1: here of is he going to be charged? You know,
Speaker 1: is he indicted. He's not deposed until February. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just so much going on here and what's the
Speaker 1: NFL do with him? But that was one of the
Speaker 1: stories last night. The Dak Prescott injury. They say day
Speaker 1: to day, but they don't know exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Therefore it has to be day to day, but it
Speaker 1: could be weeks, two weeks, could be don't know. But
Speaker 1: the fact that the Cowboys reached out to the Texas
Speaker 1: Rangers to ask about arm injuries that they've had with
Speaker 1: their pitchers, and is this something similar that Dak Prescott's
Speaker 1: going through. That doesn't sound like it's a oh man,
Speaker 1: I warmed up. I warmed up a little awkward there.
Speaker 1: Then there's a little bit more attached to this, I
Speaker 1: think than what the Cowboys are letting on. Let's see
Speaker 1: got our poll question, McLevin. Yeah, we just chased up
Speaker 1: the third best quarterback of the modern era. Your choices
Speaker 1: are John lay pay Manning, Dan Marino, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I leave anyone off. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you always an early leader on the third best
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. Nobody is doing that poll question today.
Speaker 1: Nobody in our business is asking who's the third best
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time? That's what I love about this show.
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump ahead a whole hours of content,
Speaker 1: But is the real question between four the fourth best
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time? It could be because I think
Speaker 1: Alway is either the second or third best quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time, and then that means obviously Dan Marino is four.
Speaker 1: So we're we jumping ahead to five A what about
Speaker 1: Peyton though at four it sounds good with a five.
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Speaker 1: simile with the Cowboys and Steelers last night the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game. I wanted to see Nausea Harris for Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: and they featured him early and often, and it looks
Speaker 1: like he's going to be an impactful player from day one.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins getting a second shot as a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh on Dallas's side of the ledger here, I
Speaker 1: wanted to see Michael Parsons. He did not disappoint. In fact,
Speaker 1: he was told by the Cowboys to slow it down
Speaker 1: a little bit. He was playing at like it was
Speaker 1: week one of the NFL season. I think had ten
Speaker 1: tackles before halftime. But you know the backups there with
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Garrett Gilbert and Ben Denucci. Boy, if
Speaker 1: you're a Dallas fan, you better hope Dak Prescott stays
Speaker 1: healthy and because that backup is, you know, there's no
Speaker 1: threatening backup there in Dallas. Overall, it was sloppy, but
Speaker 1: that's okay. We had a lot of NFL every week
Speaker 1: until February thirteenth. It's just the beginning. It doesn't quite
Speaker 1: feel like summer should be coming to a close, but
Speaker 1: the schedule doesn't lie ready or not. Football is here.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk to South Palatonio coming up team USA
Speaker 1: versus Friends for the gold medal tonight. That'll be a
Speaker 1: little bit before eleven o'clock Eastern. We'll talk to Vince Carter.
Speaker 1: Vince is covering basketball for NBC, and we'll talk to
Speaker 1: him coming up a little bit later on as well.
Speaker 1: Some phone calls here. Dane in Texas leads us off
Speaker 1: this hour. Hi Dane, what's on your mind? Oh, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 1: What was on my mind is it was one of
Speaker 1: the funniest things I ever saw was when you were
Speaker 1: contemplating who the best college coach was, who became the
Speaker 1: worst pro football coach? Who really tanked it up in
Speaker 1: the pros. And he was right in front of your face,
Speaker 1: and he was raising his little hand as if to say,
Speaker 1: call out me, Dan. It was the nineteen seventy six
Speaker 1: Jets coach Lou Holt, and you missed him, you overlooked.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dane. I got about Lou Holtz. Who's by
Speaker 1: the way, this is Arkansas Lou. People think this is
Speaker 1: Bob Knight. If you're watching the show, that's Lou Holtz,
Speaker 1: his figurine, his little doll. Yes, I collect dolls, and
Speaker 1: uh I have the Lou Holz. They put your pitch
Speaker 1: jam way wait too. But uh yeah, he didn't do well.
Speaker 1: He basically quit on the Jets. Bobby Petrino basically no,
Speaker 1: he did quit on the Falcons. Nick Saban said, if
Speaker 1: he knew he was gonna get Drew Brees in Miami,
Speaker 1: then he would have stayed in the NFL. Yeah, MC, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lou Holtz in nineteen seventy six, three and eleven. It's
Speaker 1: a Jets coach. Yoh yeah, not good? Yes, mclo to me,
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how big a deal Spurrier
Speaker 1: was when he went to Washington. Yeah, that was as
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan. I was terrified as of that because
Speaker 1: he was so good. Uh, let's see Darren in Indiana. Darren,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? First time caller, a long
Speaker 1: time listener. Thank you. I heard the previous caller talking
Speaker 1: about Kenny Anderson throwing in twenty eight thirty four hundred
Speaker 1: four yard but some of the most epic pathy games
Speaker 1: in NFL history we've worked between Helm and Dan Vouts.
Speaker 1: They were lightening up nine hundred to about the yards
Speaker 1: Pat and so, Yeah, I don't know where that guy's
Speaker 1: getting the stats. But Kenny Anderson, he could chunk the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and thanks for the phone called Darren. Look, I got
Speaker 1: a chance to watch Kenny Anderson because I was growing
Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati. It's just the Bengals were so bad
Speaker 1: and Kenny, Kenny, I think held the record for most
Speaker 1: consecutive completions. I don't think he still holds that. It
Speaker 1: was like twenty one consecutive completions. He was a very
Speaker 1: good quarterback. Didn't didn't beat Montana in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but then nobody else beat Montana, but he was very good.
Speaker 1: And check out the numbers on Ken Riley, the defensive
Speaker 1: back for the Bengals. I thought that he was a
Speaker 1: great defense it back and maybe he gets hold of
Speaker 1: fame consideration. Yeah, Ken Riley played his entire career for
Speaker 1: the Bengals. He actually made All Pro his last season
Speaker 1: at age thirty six, he had sixty five interceptions. That's
Speaker 1: gotta be top four or five all times. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: Paul Krausse does he still have the all time record
Speaker 1: at like eight two? Yeah, yeah, y fifth. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a great player. It was just you got overshadowed
Speaker 1: by the Steelers back then because the Steelers were so great.
Speaker 1: Donnie Shell is going into the Hall of Fame this weekend.
Speaker 1: Donnie Shell didn't start for the Steelers full time. That
Speaker 1: defense was that good. If you brought in an extra
Speaker 1: defensive back, Donnie Shell was the guy you brought in
Speaker 1: and he could play safety, linebacker. It was just that
Speaker 1: Steeler defense, best defense I ever saw. And here's a
Speaker 1: guy who couldn't make the starting lineup for a few
Speaker 1: years and he's going into the Hall of Fame. Uh,
Speaker 1: Paul and Louisiana Hi Paul, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, good morning, six five two h five, first time,
Speaker 1: long time. I gotta I got a top three quarterback
Speaker 1: for you. But I got an idea for you to
Speaker 1: make some money. What do you say? Sometimes you answer,
Speaker 1: you say what do you have? You know? To the
Speaker 1: to the person calling in, Nobody ever answers with a
Speaker 1: past blue ribbon? What do you have? A past blue ribbon?
Speaker 1: There you go, Dan, some money for you you can
Speaker 1: there's the next next pier. Thank you. But my quarterback
Speaker 1: is one that nobody has mentioned, and he's the one
Speaker 1: of the only two quarterbacks I think that's led the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lines to a playoff, Scott Mitchell. How is Scott
Speaker 1: Mitchell not being mentioned? I mean he is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks that handing off a football, Barry Sanders
Speaker 1: one of the greatest run involved. I think Paul has
Speaker 1: been drinking is pomp spleu ribb. But thank you Paul
Speaker 1: for a little bit of humor there, very little bit,
Speaker 1: and I've come accustomed to that, right thudd you have. Yes,
Speaker 1: I appreciate very little humor. You know, we get motivated
Speaker 1: or we're motivated in different ways and the Eagles are
Speaker 1: getting motivated in a way that I don't know if
Speaker 1: any other team is getting motivated, has ever got motivated
Speaker 1: this way. Nick Siriani is the Eagles head coach in
Speaker 1: case you didn't know, and he had this to say
Speaker 1: about motivating his team and what they're watching. Our fifth
Speaker 1: core value is fundamentals And Kobyashi's this video of Kobyashi
Speaker 1: and Joey chest not competing and they go and like,
Speaker 1: why is Kobeashi? Why is Kobyashi so good at any
Speaker 1: hot dogs? Well, the detail that and the fundamentals that
Speaker 1: he puts into it, and you're laughing. So he has
Speaker 1: to have the right temperature water to dunk the thing.
Speaker 1: He's got to break the hot dog perfectly in half.
Speaker 1: And like, so my point on that is like we're
Speaker 1: all seeing this, We're all watching It's like, what's the
Speaker 1: point of that. If you want to be the best
Speaker 1: in the world at what you do right on the
Speaker 1: football field, it comes down to the little things and
Speaker 1: that right there was a fun amount of talk. So
Speaker 1: it's all those how does it go to my you
Speaker 1: know kind of what I want to get across? And
Speaker 1: there's just we learned from great players in the past
Speaker 1: and great teams in the past. Okay, Yeah, see We've
Speaker 1: said it here a million times, Dan, winning is in
Speaker 1: the details. It is. It's in the hot dogs. That's
Speaker 1: what coach is talking about. Winning is in the details. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused. It sounded like practice was still
Speaker 1: going on right behind him. What's he doing talking to
Speaker 1: the press. Shouldn't he be watching practice? Yeah? I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody else now I that's something Dan Campbell,
Speaker 1: the Lions head coach, would say. You would expect that
Speaker 1: to come out of his mouth. But Nick Sirianni, who
Speaker 1: I don't know much about. But you know he's motivating
Speaker 1: his team by the attention to detail with the hot
Speaker 1: dog eating contest. Did you hear Dan Campbell the other day?
Speaker 1: He had this big cup of coffee and some guy
Speaker 1: just goes, how many coffees is that for you today?
Speaker 1: So you know Starbucks better than I do. He has
Speaker 1: what's the biggest size of the star Venti Venti that's
Speaker 1: like two cups of coffee, right, because it's so big. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has a Venti which is two cups of coffee
Speaker 1: with two shots in it, and he has two of
Speaker 1: them and he drinks that before noon. I like it
Speaker 1: well before him. Yeah, that is eight cups of coffee
Speaker 1: correct basically yeah, yeah, with a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of sugar in there too. Keep you going, yeah, seton.
Speaker 1: But I feel like there's like office workers all over
Speaker 1: America who are like, yeah, yeah, I do that, and
Speaker 1: like go sit in the cubicle, and uh, we're kind
Speaker 1: of counterceivable. But I used to drink four Venti's every
Speaker 1: morning on this show. Yeah, so Dan Campbell has nothing
Speaker 1: on me. You did that from about I would say,
Speaker 1: oh four, it's about four years ago, um, five years
Speaker 1: maybe my wife just said, look, you gotta gotta cut
Speaker 1: it in half, at least half and the half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I now I have a full Venti and then
Speaker 1: I have half the Venti. I'm having one and a
Speaker 1: half of Venti's every morning. But I used to drink
Speaker 1: four of those in the from seven thirty till noon. Yes,
Speaker 1: you go in like oat milk, common milky, amon milk milk,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, yes. Point when we would be on
Speaker 1: the road on the West Coast for this show, let's
Speaker 1: say like a decade ago. Just let people behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: we would have to get up around three forty five
Speaker 1: in the morning to be on set. And there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of Starbucks open in the four to five
Speaker 1: am window, just generally, but people are assigned to find
Speaker 1: those Starbucks, and and it was whenever they're open, you'd
Speaker 1: be the first one there and like help them open up.
Speaker 1: And it would be like something we'd send somebody out
Speaker 1: at like, you know, five fifteen just to find the
Speaker 1: Starbucks nearest to you know, where we were broadcasting from, Yes,
Speaker 1: And there would be nothing more crushing than when you're
Speaker 1: like you're that guy and you're like, oh, no, there's
Speaker 1: a Starbucks right down like two blocks from here. I'll
Speaker 1: go get it, and you run over and it's, you know,
Speaker 1: the one in the lobby of a bank or something
Speaker 1: that's closed during during the pandemic. When the pandemic first happened,
Speaker 1: we went on vacation for a week and I went
Speaker 1: up to Vermont and I got up there and I
Speaker 1: was with the dog. That was it just me and
Speaker 1: the dog, and I just thought, you know, I got
Speaker 1: to protect myself. I know, immune compromised here. So I
Speaker 1: just go up to Vermont and stay. And then the
Speaker 1: next thing I think of is what am I gonna
Speaker 1: do about Starbucks, and there's no Starbucks. Like, they don't
Speaker 1: have brick and mortar Starbucks in Vermont, but they had
Speaker 1: one in a grocery store about forty five minutes away,
Speaker 1: and they might have been in New Hampshire. But I
Speaker 1: would just get the dog in the car we road trip.
Speaker 1: I'd go over and then i'd you know, be forty
Speaker 1: five to an hour back. I'd have two of them.
Speaker 1: I'd finish them on the way back, and then I
Speaker 1: was I was good to go. It's almost like you
Speaker 1: start to shake a little bit. You start to panic
Speaker 1: a little bit, like what am I gonna do about Starbucks?
Speaker 1: When I went to the Olympics and uh in Sochi,
Speaker 1: It's not like they're, you know, teaming with Starbucks over
Speaker 1: in Sochi. And then I find out that NBC had
Speaker 1: a Starbucks in the commissary. Yeah, well, you just go
Speaker 1: in there and you order. It was awesome. It was
Speaker 1: order your own VENTI skim chie. Yes. If someone were
Speaker 1: trying to give up a serious coffee addiction, would you
Speaker 1: tell them to wean off over like a long term
Speaker 1: or just stay cut it? Well, I went cold turkey
Speaker 1: on drinking Coca Cola, and I had the shakes and
Speaker 1: headaches for about six weeks, and I was drinking four
Speaker 1: twenty ounce bottles a night. When I was doing Sports Center,
Speaker 1: I would be wired. I would be on fire when
Speaker 1: I got to Sports Center, and then I would I
Speaker 1: would call, like, I'd leave messages for Paulie'd be twelve
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, and I'd be like, let me
Speaker 1: just I gotta call people. And then I would also
Speaker 1: play songs, and then I would I would try to
Speaker 1: hit the post on the song, and I would do
Speaker 1: that into Paully's Answering Machine songs, playing like I knew
Speaker 1: the song was going to start, and then I called
Speaker 1: Paul leave a message, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I talk right up to the post and then I
Speaker 1: just leave these nonsensical, you know thoughts on Paully's Answering Machine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will find these some day because I have him
Speaker 1: in a bin. But you're sitting there at there, It's
Speaker 1: I'm on ninety one South, it's five night, Bonto is
Speaker 1: about to do Beautiful Day, and I'm hit the post
Speaker 1: like nobody's freaking business. Yes, I would do things like
Speaker 1: twelve thirty five and forty eight degrees at light FM,
Speaker 1: here's Kenny g and it's an hour drive. So I
Speaker 1: have like eighteen of these. Yes, but I was so
Speaker 1: wired up and I get home and then I would
Speaker 1: have two beers in the span of about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: So then try to bring me back down a good times.
Speaker 1: You know that's not going to have a lasting impact
Speaker 1: on my body. No way. By the way, we have
Speaker 1: skewers today on the tragger grill, and that is different
Speaker 1: than what we uh what we said, Yes, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. It's like a kebab is the concept of
Speaker 1: putting meat on sticks and vegetables. Skewer is the thing
Speaker 1: you put it on. Yeah, some people say we're firing
Speaker 1: up some skewers. Okay, so we have barbecue chicken and
Speaker 1: pineapple skewer. I don't like pineapple Asian style grilled beef skewers. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's where it's at and I like that one. And
Speaker 1: spicy shrimpers. Who has it better than we do? No
Speaker 1: body take a break. South Palantonio is next and in
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Speaker 1: from Canton. Last night's festivities there and Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: speeches coming up this weekend eight seven seven three d
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Speaker 1: at dps show make way for the ESPN national correspondent
Speaker 1: covering the NFL South. Palantonio his twenty ninth training camp
Speaker 1: and joins us on the programs the what's the big
Speaker 1: takeaway from last night's game? Well, Dan, I think the
Speaker 1: big His headline was provided by Jerry Jones. He did
Speaker 1: an impromptu presser right after I talked to Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: on SportsCenter. Jones talked to the Dallas media kind of
Speaker 1: stuck my nose in the air, and I asked him
Speaker 1: what kind of advice or you know, I know you're
Speaker 1: not close to your players, especially Dak, and he when
Speaker 1: he talked about Dak's injury and about how cautious they
Speaker 1: are being, he reached up under his arm and pointed
Speaker 1: to his lat muscle, confirming that Dack's injury is not
Speaker 1: necessarily a shoulder or an elbow or an arm issue.
Speaker 1: That he has a strained lat on the right side,
Speaker 1: and he also confirmed that had happened when he threw
Speaker 1: a long hail Mary passed in practice or minute before
Speaker 1: pactice started, when he got done the day he got hurt.
Speaker 1: And as you know, from a lat injury, it's all
Speaker 1: about rest because it can impact your shoulder, your army, back,
Speaker 1: your hip, everything. And Dak coming back from that gruesome
Speaker 1: leg injury, it's all about rest and icing it and
Speaker 1: getting some stimulation. But the basic bottom line is you
Speaker 1: read anything about it, you get any kind of advice
Speaker 1: from a doctor, they'll tell you to do nothing until
Speaker 1: it's completely healed. How much pressure do you think we
Speaker 1: love to rank things people, But as far as individuals
Speaker 1: with pressure on them, where does Dak Prescott rank in
Speaker 1: your opinion? Pretty near top of the lists. Right, got
Speaker 1: the money, has got a lot of components around him.
Speaker 1: They've invested a lot in this team, changed head coaches,
Speaker 1: kept his offensive coordinator. Obviously, the gruesome leg injury that
Speaker 1: he suffered in Week five last year resulted in the
Speaker 1: team going six and ten when they were on their way.
Speaker 1: I mean, the offense looks so good, and I really
Speaker 1: like Dak. I think he's super tough. He's obviously a
Speaker 1: very smart and capable player, but he's just a great leader.
Speaker 1: Dac is one of the great leaders that we have
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Then, and I think he's going to
Speaker 1: come out of this. He's totally committed to making sure
Speaker 1: that the injuries one hundred percent. He understands he's heard
Speaker 1: from the team, the coaches, the doctors that this is
Speaker 1: the kind of injury where if you are not fully
Speaker 1: healed and you re injure it, it could really last
Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks. On end, you sat down with
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. What was the big takeaway from that? Well,
Speaker 1: Ben's thirty nine and he's basically hitting the reset button
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady. I mean, maybe he did it when
Speaker 1: he was forty three, went to a new team, had
Speaker 1: a new offensive, new offensive coordinator, and here's been at
Speaker 1: thirty nine, new offensive coordinator, new offense. Matt Canada is
Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator, and the dictum from Rooney on
Speaker 1: down is we will run the football. You know, when
Speaker 1: you last in the league and running the ball, and
Speaker 1: they were way last in the league by a wide
Speaker 1: more argin Bannon play action pass and so if you're
Speaker 1: lass in the league and running the ball and you're
Speaker 1: not providing any deception at all out of your running game,
Speaker 1: then they're just coming after you. Everybody knew they were
Speaker 1: going to throw it, and they just ran out of gas.
Speaker 1: As for how he looked, I thought he looked excellent,
Speaker 1: I really did. The ball had great trajectory, the ball
Speaker 1: had terrific accuracy deep and short bends, a great passer.
Speaker 1: His movement which is always great, subtle in the pocket,
Speaker 1: looked good. I was there on the day they were hitting.
Speaker 1: He wasn't touched, obviously, but that was a day where
Speaker 1: you know, the energy was high, and I thought that
Speaker 1: he really looked good and he sounded good, and he
Speaker 1: understands what he's up against, he really does. He's taken
Speaker 1: it year by years. That one year leaks, I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wondered if they didn't think they could get a
Speaker 1: quarterback they wanted, or they just didn't like the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that were going to be available, and that's why decided
Speaker 1: to stay with Ben. Well. I think they decided to
Speaker 1: stay with Ben because he's a two time Super Bowl
Speaker 1: chap and then he gives him their best option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you guys think start thinking about the future here.
Speaker 1: If you're Pittsburgh, you do, and then you definitely do,
Speaker 1: and you know they do have they do. Bring in
Speaker 1: Green Haskins. He's a reclamation project and if anybody can
Speaker 1: reach him, it's Mike Tomlin. And they were saying all
Speaker 1: the right things about him. And now I watched him
Speaker 1: in practice, watched him very closely last night. And when
Speaker 1: I watched him in practice, they were implementing some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that he was doing last night over and
Speaker 1: over again. Canada had him rolling to his left and
Speaker 1: throwing outside the pocket, moving the so called platform, the
Speaker 1: launch platform for him. You know, partially that is because
Speaker 1: they've had some problems, you know, protecting the passer. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is they liked his athleticism and he's
Speaker 1: turned into a very very good passer outside the pocket
Speaker 1: on the move. So you know they're working with them
Speaker 1: to try to see how committed he is to the game,
Speaker 1: is how we will take the coaching, how we will
Speaker 1: pick up this offense. And you know he's got the
Speaker 1: best and the best to learn from. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just have a high regard from Mike Tomlin. I think
Speaker 1: he's one of the best coaches all time in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer. If Bill kuer is going
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, then so's Mike Commin and
Speaker 1: so is Ben Roethlisberger. And I'm a voter, and you
Speaker 1: know that, and I will vote first ballot for both
Speaker 1: of them. Would you take a look. I don't know
Speaker 1: how this works. Is that the Veterans Committee that Kenny
Speaker 1: Anderson and Ken Riley who played for the Bengals. I
Speaker 1: don't have any I mean, I have a platform, but
Speaker 1: I'm not a voter. But I'm just curious how that
Speaker 1: works with players like that of just getting the attention
Speaker 1: of the voters and say, is anybody talking about them,
Speaker 1: has anybod he spoke on their behalf. There's a huge
Speaker 1: pool of senior candidates, and both of them are in it, okay,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, their names come up. There's definitely
Speaker 1: legitimate discussion about both. I can tell you from a
Speaker 1: personal standpoint, I'm a big believer in Kenny Anderson. I
Speaker 1: think Kenny Anderson should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the debate will be
Speaker 1: about Riley, but I think Anderson has been overlooked for
Speaker 1: way too long. It should be in. Do you have
Speaker 1: any hesitation voting for Eli Manning? None? Okay, none whatsoever?
Speaker 1: I think you know, I'll vote for him right from
Speaker 1: the start, and there'll be a discussion about him. For sure.
Speaker 1: The Eli man is going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Eli man He's going to get in. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's going to be first ballot. It might be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a struggle for the first year
Speaker 1: or two because of the debate that will go on
Speaker 1: about his career. But I will vote for him right away,
Speaker 1: and I will push hard for him to go in,
Speaker 1: and he should go in, and he will go in
Speaker 1: talking to South Palantonio from the Mothership. Give me, give
Speaker 1: me the player who's not in? Who should be? Oh boy,
Speaker 1: who's not in? Who should do? That? Would have to
Speaker 1: be Tony Bisselli. Okay, I think Tony Bisselli, you know,
Speaker 1: is obviously his injury history with that shoulder and the
Speaker 1: length of service that he had. But we set up
Speaker 1: president with Terrell Davis, with t D with the Broncos
Speaker 1: and Bassilli Basseilli Dan. I mean, I don't have to
Speaker 1: tell you when you watched Bisselli, he was just better
Speaker 1: than everybody in his era. Shut Down Bruce Smith, he
Speaker 1: was just great. And he's very close, very close to
Speaker 1: getting in. And I'm not going to make a addiction
Speaker 1: because it's a very unpredictable room and you never know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the vote. But I think
Speaker 1: Tony Basselli has a very good shot of getting in
Speaker 1: this year or next. Any whispers with Deshaun Watson, you
Speaker 1: being based in Philadelphia, I don't know if the Eagles
Speaker 1: are completely sold on Jalen Hurts doesn't seem like it,
Speaker 1: but what are the odds you think that they take
Speaker 1: a run at Deshaun Watson. Well, the beautiful thing about
Speaker 1: working for ESPN is I got Chris Mortenson and Adam Schefter,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to let them handle that. That's way
Speaker 1: beyond my papride as far as Deshaun Watson. But I
Speaker 1: will tell you this about Jaylen Hurts. I was there
Speaker 1: last Friday. I talked to Nick Sirian in one on
Speaker 1: one and I talked to Jayalen. It was the first
Speaker 1: one on one interview he did, and I watched him
Speaker 1: in practice. So he's trying to get his feet under
Speaker 1: him in Nick Sirian on his offense, and Jalen is
Speaker 1: a tremendous athletic talent who last year was on a
Speaker 1: pace to put us some great numbers. Now, his completion percentage,
Speaker 1: I understand was below sixty percent, but that's just such
Speaker 1: a small sample size four games. And that was such
Speaker 1: a tremendous pressure cooker situation with COVID nineteen and Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz getting hurt and all of the controversies surrounding Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurts was thrown into the fire and passed
Speaker 1: all of the tests, past the eye tests, passed the
Speaker 1: leadership tests, past the teammate. Test was embraced by his
Speaker 1: teammates and Jalen Hurts right now is trying to You
Speaker 1: got a new coach and a new system. It's going
Speaker 1: to be run heavy. They want him to be more
Speaker 1: of a pocket passer. You saw them the comments he
Speaker 1: made last week where he said he's learning to appreciate
Speaker 1: what the coaches want him to do while not sacrificing
Speaker 1: his athleticism. And what are those code words for? Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm learning how to be a pocket passer, but I
Speaker 1: want to show off what I can do. I'll leave
Speaker 1: you with this. Our poll question today is not who's
Speaker 1: the best quarterback second best quarterback in NFL history? Who
Speaker 1: is the third best quarterback of all time? In your opinion?
Speaker 1: Bart Star. So I'm gonna go. Did I shock into Asia? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did? I think? Yeah, Yeah, I'm going Montana Brady
Speaker 1: and bart Star. I think Montana is the all time greatest.
Speaker 1: If I had a game to win, it would be Montana.
Speaker 1: Look at a game, the championship game, it would be
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. Tom Brady would be number two. And then
Speaker 1: Bart Star look at his postseason numbers in record, his
Speaker 1: efficiency and production in the postseason and that offense was amazing,
Speaker 1: and he had, in my view, the most iconic quarterback
Speaker 1: sneak in football history. And the great thing about it,
Speaker 1: as we now had found out, is that he audible
Speaker 1: that the line of scrimmage he was supposed to hand
Speaker 1: it off the Chuck Ursine decided not to do that
Speaker 1: and went in and on his own love that story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: selfish me first wanted all the glory, right, So just
Speaker 1: let barn Star's personality exactly exactly. He was the John
Speaker 1: Glenn of the NFL on the sixties. And a brief story,
Speaker 1: very brief, I was with it. I was at a
Speaker 1: restaurant in Atlanta and a super Bowl, and I don't
Speaker 1: remember what year it was. The oar Star was quietly
Speaker 1: having breakfast with his wife, and every time she left
Speaker 1: the table, he stood up, helped her out of her chair,
Speaker 1: and then when she came back to the table, he
Speaker 1: stood up and put her back in her chair and
Speaker 1: pushed it back in. He was just a consummate gentleman
Speaker 1: even when nobody was looking. That's what the Danets do
Speaker 1: for me. And I get up from the table, they
Speaker 1: stand up, and then when I come back and it's
Speaker 1: not they don't do it on their own. I basically
Speaker 1: ordered them that you stand up, and then when I
Speaker 1: come back, then they all helped me with my chair.
Speaker 1: That's sweet. Yes, it is very very heartwarming, very heartwarming.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't know if you had
Speaker 1: any vote on this, but thank you to whoever voted
Speaker 1: on the Roselle Award with John Facenda, because I made
Speaker 1: it a mission that I just wanted people to, you know,
Speaker 1: just let's re examine this and the fact that Steve
Speaker 1: Sable's going in, his father's already in, and I just thought,
Speaker 1: you know, make it a trilogy that John Facenda deserved
Speaker 1: to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So
Speaker 1: I'm I think it's wonderful. He'll be honored tonight. Why
Speaker 1: did it take so long? I don't think I thought
Speaker 1: that he was in sal And then I said to
Speaker 1: mclove and I said, would you check and see if
Speaker 1: John Facenda is in? He goes, he's not. I go,
Speaker 1: We're writing a letter. And I wrote a letter to
Speaker 1: David Baker and I just said, just bring this up
Speaker 1: so people know that John Facinda is not in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And he said that he would and
Speaker 1: you know it's it's awesome that John. You know, that
Speaker 1: voice will be heard on those loudspeakers tonight and it
Speaker 1: will bring back a lot of memories for a lot
Speaker 1: of people there, and it'll be great. It was the
Speaker 1: voice of God and it was the soundtrack of our lives. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Have fun this weekend. Always great to catch
Speaker 1: up with you, Sal, thanks for joining us. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me on the program. Dan, that's Sal Palantonio
Speaker 1: the Mothership. Always great to talk to Sal. Bart Star
Speaker 1: third best quarterback of all time. No, but I love
Speaker 1: the passion there. A little bit of a curveball there.
Speaker 1: Bart was great in those two Super Bowls. What you
Speaker 1: were I do think this is something that's really hard
Speaker 1: to quantify, and that's being a floor leader, a floor general,
Speaker 1: a field general. And you know, I complimented Alex Smith
Speaker 1: and said that he he ran an offense in a
Speaker 1: similar way to guys like Bob Greasy and Bart Starr.
Speaker 1: Now he didn't like being called a you know, kind
Speaker 1: of a field general because that meant you weren't great
Speaker 1: at passing, but to be able to run an offense,
Speaker 1: and that's what it used to be. You ran an offense,
Speaker 1: and now it's just different. It's you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. But bart Star, he wasn't asked to
Speaker 1: do much. During the regular season. They had a good
Speaker 1: running game. H Lombardi believed in running the football, you know,
Speaker 1: the same you know the Dolphins, they ran the ball.
Speaker 1: They had three great running backs, Zonka Kick and Mercury
Speaker 1: Morris and Bob Greasy. Was a field general and that's
Speaker 1: sort of a lost art, you know. Troy Aikman was
Speaker 1: sort of like that, like what do you need me
Speaker 1: to do? And and and today's quarterback is just basically
Speaker 1: I'm going to be throwing the football. But being a
Speaker 1: field general, that's what bart Starr was, what do you
Speaker 1: need me to do? We're not going to win this
Speaker 1: game by running the ball against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: In Super Bowl one, we're gonna throw the ball or
Speaker 1: Super Bowl two. But during the regular season, bart Starr
Speaker 1: had a season I think where he threw nine touchdowns
Speaker 1: at eighteen interceptions. But when you got to a big game,
Speaker 1: he was a big game performer. All Right, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up right after this Stan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Pole question today, who's the third
Speaker 1: best quarterback of all time? I like how some people,
Speaker 1: including our buddy Chris Brockman, are we sure Montana's second?
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury, Friend of the show, talent, Elway, body of work,
Speaker 1: Manning deserves more mention, Marino, Well, tell me who's third? Sean?
Speaker 1: Don't give me all those answers. Let's see we got
Speaker 1: Fran Tarkington got to mention here Terry Bradshaw four super Bowls.
Speaker 1: Montana's value is high due to his championships, but Bradshaw
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be held anywhere near the same regard.
Speaker 1: How close is Aaron Rodgers if he this up for
Speaker 1: the next couple of seasons, I'd put Roger's Staubock at three.
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman has to be in the conversation for number
Speaker 1: three all time. No, because Troy wouldn't even put himself
Speaker 1: in the conversation for that. Assuming it's Brady and Montana,
Speaker 1: then Manning, followed by Elway. Here's another one, Manning, Big Ben.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. No, no, I no, what
Speaker 1: else do we have? It's already Mahomes. I say this
Speaker 1: as a diehard Broncos fan staring down the barrel facing
Speaker 1: him twice a year for the next decade. Mahomes does
Speaker 1: things no one has ever done. I'd hate to say that.
Speaker 1: I see him finishing with at least five rings puke,
Speaker 1: but true. Okay, that's what you think he's going to do,
Speaker 1: and ability as well. But no, Mahomes not the third
Speaker 1: best quarterback Valtire. Who else gets a mention here Curtis Painter.
Speaker 1: Curtis Painter got to mention. There a lot of joke mentions,
Speaker 1: like I had the hundreds of the match. Here's a couple.
Speaker 1: It's got to be Cutler. Okay, fair enough. Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: got to mention, and so did Derek Carr. Oh that's
Speaker 1: the poor question today. If you would like to take part,
Speaker 1: you can. I actually put up who is the better
Speaker 1: car brother as a side poll question too, So that's
Speaker 1: the Derek Carr answer. Wait, just kidding, okay, yeah, all right, Uh,
Speaker 1: why people feel compelled? We got about fifty backup quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are being set our way, mo, and Arizona's back with us,
Speaker 1: So I MO, what's on your mind? For one, you
Speaker 1: can't put anybody above mom. Kennedy's four and oh no intercepts. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the Brady debate. That's kind of like
Speaker 1: um Jordan and Coneen. It's a toss up. But number three, uh,
Speaker 1: you guys are forgetting about Steve. Yeah, nah, I love
Speaker 1: I love Steve, but he nuh. I love Steve, but
Speaker 1: no he hall of Famer and I know great. You
Speaker 1: know that's another argument where Steve had five five great
Speaker 1: years and I know that. You know, he was in
Speaker 1: the USFL and then he was with Tampa and then
Speaker 1: he got there, and I think he took over for
Speaker 1: Montana at age thirty. But if we start to look
Speaker 1: at these windows of Trerell Davis gets in, Steve Young
Speaker 1: gets in, then I think we have to start looking
Speaker 1: at other positions because we love to look at longevity.
Speaker 1: I understand that. But Steve Young and Trelle Davis got
Speaker 1: in and they're probably looking at five years, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: four years for Trell Davis, but they were great. That's
Speaker 1: where Tony Biselli, if you say, well he's in lineman,
Speaker 1: he only played five great years, Okay, but what's the
Speaker 1: difference in that position and Terrell Davis And you know
Speaker 1: somebody else who had an abbreviated career because of injured
Speaker 1: Gail Sayers was spectacu abbreviated career because of injuries. You
Speaker 1: can't just pick and choose and go, well, he's a
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, this is an offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: a left tackle in an athlete. So that's where I
Speaker 1: would argue that, yes, PAULI, Steve Young's career is really nuts.
Speaker 1: His entire Hall of Fame resume is aged thirty one
Speaker 1: to thirty six, three time All Pro, seven time Pro
Speaker 1: Bowler in seven years, led the league in percentage and
Speaker 1: touchdowns and quarterback rating like his six years might be
Speaker 1: the best six years of any quarterback of all time. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I know. Percentage wise, Steve was
Speaker 1: the first guy I remember who was completing close to
Speaker 1: seventy percent from thirty one to thirty seven. He's Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl every year, three time All Pro. He also had
Speaker 1: no losing seasons as a starting quarterback, zero losing seasons
Speaker 1: ninety four and forty nine, I mean, and then he
Speaker 1: led the league in touchdown passes four times. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: his interceptions were always low. He also ran for like
Speaker 1: five thousand yards in a short window in his thirties,
Speaker 1: not in his twenties one. He could have rushed for
Speaker 1: How many yards did he rush for in his career?
Speaker 1: Is he like he's at four thousand yards? And it
Speaker 1: almost all came after the age of thirty. He could
Speaker 1: have and back, you know, prior to thirty he was
Speaker 1: a runner. When he got to the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: they were trying to keep him in the pocket and
Speaker 1: go through your progressions. He could have rushed for eight
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his career. I mean that's not a stretch.
Speaker 1: If he had gotten to the Niners when you know
Speaker 1: he was younger. Yeah, he ran for his life in Tampa,
Speaker 1: but he was also in the USFL. But no, Steve
Speaker 1: Young was great Dill in West Virginia High Dial. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind, Hey, Dan? I know somebody mentioned a
Speaker 1: while ago, but Frank Hartington never gets the credit he should.
Speaker 1: He's all the six foot one, ninety nine Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: three time NFC champion quarterback, fourth year quarterback, brushing all
Speaker 1: the time, exciting his committee. It didn't always have the
Speaker 1: best offense to well, but it's a very good receivers
Speaker 1: times and never gets secretity shit. I don't think on
Speaker 1: these lists. Yeah, I remember that. I think it was
Speaker 1: three hundred and ten touchdown passes that he had. I
Speaker 1: just remember, like God, nobody will ever get to three
Speaker 1: hundred touchdown passes. But if Fran was if he was
Speaker 1: six feet but he was a scrambler. I think losing
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you know, hurt him a little bit.
Speaker 1: You have to understand what it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: in a previous era when you lost the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that you were the second best team like
Speaker 1: you were, like you lost the Super Bowl, and we
Speaker 1: had a lot of blowouts in the Super Bowl. Therefore,
Speaker 1: you just it was really held against Elway for a
Speaker 1: long time that he was getting blown out in Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Kelly and the Buffalo Bills, the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings when they would lose. We never we never celebrated
Speaker 1: those who finished, you know, as the loser in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We still don't, you know, we still put
Speaker 1: a scarlet letter on them. All right, more phone calls
Speaker 1: coming up next hour, and looking forward to Vince Carter.
Speaker 1: I wonder about that dunk in the Olympics over Frederick Weiss,
Speaker 1: a seven foot two center, if you could, if he
Speaker 1: could say to the Olympics or NBC, can I make
Speaker 1: an nft of that of me going over him in
Speaker 1: one of the most famous dunks of all time? Is
Speaker 1: there a more famous dunk than that? Now? I know,
Speaker 1: doctor J Michael Cooper. That was in the you know,
Speaker 1: in the finals. But in a game where does that?
Speaker 1: Can you see greatest dunks of all time? Mcloven? See
Speaker 1: if there's a list out, Vince Carter will join us
Speaker 1: coming up calls as well on this Meet Friday Seaton
Speaker 1: Paulie Fritzie mclovin years truly final hour coming up right
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