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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: How the heck are you? On a Thursday? Chris Brown

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you on another edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us here with you until three. So, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I'm in the line this morning at your friendly neighborhood

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Speaker 2: drive through. Uh and we've seen this before, or maybe

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Speaker 2: you've maybe you haven't experienced this, but you've probably heard

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Speaker 2: of it. So I pull up to the window. All

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Speaker 2: I'm getting is a coffee, you know, And I go

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Speaker 2: to hand the money, and the lady at the window says, oh,

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Speaker 2: the car in front of you bought your coffee for you.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's great, thanks, thanks.

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Speaker 3: See you.

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Speaker 2: Later I said, well I probably should have done that.

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Speaker 2: I said, all right, well, let me get the let

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Speaker 2: me get the person behind me. The lady looks at me,

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Speaker 2: she goes, well they got food, and I was like oh.

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Speaker 2: So then I said, ah, what the hell? What how

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Speaker 2: much is it? She's like nine dollars and five cents.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, let's do it right, Like,

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Speaker 2: what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it's like ninety dollars.

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Speaker 2: Here. I am thinking, oh, look at that I got

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Speaker 2: a free coffee. My coffee costs me died oult. You

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Speaker 2: win some, you lose some.

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Speaker 3: It is man, I do that once in a while.

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Speaker 3: Well I'll buy for the guy behind me, and I've

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Speaker 3: yet to be bought four really, Yeah, it's never happened

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the second time that's happened for me.

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Speaker 3: It's never happened.

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Speaker 2: Not often, but yeah, it does happen. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you gotta do right by your fellow person. So but

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Speaker 2: I came out, I came out seventy six fifty short.

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Speaker 2: I think my purchase their cup of coffee. You win,

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Speaker 2: you lose.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? That's good though. It's a

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Speaker 3: nice gesture, and I do it occasionally. I did it

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Speaker 3: for a minute. I did it all the time. I

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Speaker 3: did every single time.

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Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet the person behind me if they

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Speaker 2: paid it forward, they went, they're gonna win. They had

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Speaker 2: a nine dollars order. The chances of the person behind

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Speaker 2: them having more than a nine dollars order is pretty remote,

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Speaker 2: that's right, So they they're the winner today.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting dynamic, isn't it, Because I mean, certainly

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Speaker 3: you try and do in somebody a favor by buying

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Speaker 3: them a coffee, But then you put them on the

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Speaker 3: spot by saying, okay, if somebody bought from me, I

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Speaker 3: should receipt.

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Speaker 2: Okay, forward, just you know I right.

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Speaker 3: So you say, okay, what's the guy behind me got?

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Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, they got like you know, they.

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Speaker 2: Got seven people in the minivan. Right, I should have known.

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Speaker 3: I was a minivan thirty five dollars tab. Then it's like, eh,

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Speaker 3: you know what, maybe next.

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Speaker 2: Time you have a nice date, I'll get you on

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Speaker 2: the flips.

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Speaker 3: I'll get you later. Right. It's my it's always my fear.

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Speaker 3: It's always my fear that I pay for the guy

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Speaker 3: behind me. They roll up and the and the clerk goes,

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Speaker 3: that'll be nine to fifty yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then pockets your pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I guess there is a risk of that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that.

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Speaker 3: That's because you're not as devious as you get.

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Speaker 2: You get some smarmy person at the window, they'll just

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Speaker 2: pocket your money and then ask the next person for

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Speaker 2: there They not even let them know, and nobody's the wiser.

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Speaker 3: See, that's when I pay for somebody behind me, I go, hey,

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Speaker 3: I got a buddy back there. I know them? Can

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Speaker 3: you always tell my not because I think we're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk and I'll find out.

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Speaker 2: Put the fear of God in them?

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Speaker 3: Say, oh, they know each other, So I can't like

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Speaker 3: Scooch this guy's money because they're gonna talk later. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: huh so, I you know that's now here's my second question,

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Speaker 3: not that I am I does that make me a

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Speaker 3: bad person or no?

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Speaker 2: Just calculated, very calculated.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, psychopath that but calculated.

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Speaker 2: I just figure you're trying to prevent the worst case

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Speaker 3: But you know what, though, here's the thing. Are you

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Speaker 3: one of those universal people like listen, Kara is gonna

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Speaker 3: come if you pay for it in good faith, you

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Speaker 3: expect people to do it. And even if it doesn't

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Speaker 3: come back to you somehow, someway, it's gonna echo back

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Speaker 3: in a good way, right m I'm yeah all right.

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Speaker 2: So here's my second question. Has that drive through occurrence

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Speaker 2: ever happened to you somewhere besides Western New York or

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Speaker 2: somebody in front bought for you?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, when do I go through drive throughs

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Speaker 3: any place but here, so no.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done drive throughs in other places, you know,

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Speaker 2: driving kids to school and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And oh you mean like yeah college you mean?

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Speaker 2: Well no, like you're out of state, you're somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: grabbing and going because you're on a long drive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've done that or no.

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Speaker 2: But I've never point is, I've only had it happen

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Speaker 3: If you're in the neighborhood. If you're in your neighborhood

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Speaker 3: drive through, I mean the one you go to all

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Speaker 3: the time, that's different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'll say this, like I'll I usually make

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Speaker 2: coffee at home if I'm running late, yeah, or I've

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Speaker 2: got a gift card, you know, then I'm going through.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not an every day I'm not a five

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Speaker 2: day a week person going through the morning drive through.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, right, I'm not every two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I'm not either. Yeah I was for a minute, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I've got a different routine. Now give it up for

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Speaker 3: lent right, No.

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Speaker 2: No, no more drive through for me. I'm making a sacrifice.

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Speaker 3: No, I yeah, right, I just got a different routine

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Speaker 3: than I like better. So it doesn't include a drive through,

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Speaker 3: so I'm I'm kind of with you on it, though.

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Speaker 2: You I almost feel like it's New York thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure if people do it somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they do. But I think also, if you're

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Speaker 3: you know, like Johnny apple seeded across the country, maybe people.

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Speaker 2: You know, be the yeah, be the kickstarter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, be the you know, be the seed that you

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Speaker 3: know like that, just like that terrible that the seed

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Speaker 3: that falls on on fertile ground.

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Speaker 2: You know, not all the ground is fertile out there,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I know what you're.

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Speaker 3: Still you know what your premiss you know what it's

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Speaker 3: like Johnny apple Seed going on. You spread that little

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Speaker 3: thought on somebody else and they actually that's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that where they go sweet more for me.

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Speaker 2: You have a nice datum.

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Speaker 3: I'm out of here. Robert Mildred right, or that's the

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Speaker 3: or that's the clerk that goes hey, yeah, sure I'll

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Speaker 3: pay for that guy behind you. Yeah, thanks, thanks for

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Speaker 3: the two fifty. Yeah, you know all right, I was

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Speaker 3: just curious about that. So I do do that a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not all on a regular Well, good for you. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those social experiments that you're

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Speaker 2: always curious what other people think about it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's cool when it happens to you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: how nice.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: How does the collective consciousness of our society handle a

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Speaker 3: free coffee? Is there?

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Speaker 2: Knowing how much people love coffee, I would say pretty good? Right?

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Speaker 2: Pretty well?

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Speaker 3: Is there a conscience in there or is it just

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking out for number one?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's probably a healthy portion of both.

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Speaker 3: And also this too. I'm probably both. I'm probably all

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Speaker 3: those people that we're talking about, every role in that,

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Speaker 3: the clerk, the driver one, and the driver behind. I'm

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Speaker 3: all of those at some point.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, and I'm you know, I'm all those again,

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Speaker 2: look at how varied your person.

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Speaker 3: And I'm the guy that says, you know what, I

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Speaker 3: ain't got time for this, Give me the coffee then,

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Speaker 3: right or fantastic? And I mean I'm not listen. I

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Speaker 3: I'd like to say, no, I always do it every

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Speaker 3: single time I buy for that. No, No, I'm sometimes,

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Speaker 3: but he does that sometimes. I'm the guy who says,

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Speaker 3: just you know, just give me the coffee.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit of that too. Yeah, I gotta confess.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm some point, I'm the clerk that says I'm

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Speaker 3: keeping your money, thanks, and I'm not telling anybody. Okay,

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Speaker 3: hopefully that doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 2: And look at what we learn today.

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Speaker 3: Yes here on the show, I am not a good guy. Amazing,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm Yeah, I've never worked as a clerk,

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Speaker 3: so I'm just saying, you know, I got you, never

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Speaker 3: worked as one of those guys. But still that's got

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Speaker 3: to be it doesn't that have to like cross your

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Speaker 3: mind at some point going you know, nobody's gonna know.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking there's cameras everywhere. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Collida Health, the

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Speaker 2: with the eighth and final head coaching spot filled Today,

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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders are hiring Dan Quinn as their head coach.

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Speaker 2: The now former Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator will be an

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Speaker 2: NFL head coach for the second time. His first head

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Speaker 2: coaching stint came in Atlanta with the Falcons for six

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Speaker 2: seasons from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty won an NFC

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Speaker 2: title while he was there, So, Steve, all the head

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Speaker 2: coaching posts have been filled, and looking at this list,

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Speaker 2: I believe dan Quinn is Nope, Jim Harbaugh is the

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Speaker 2: oldest at age sixty. Dan Quinn is fifty four. Everybody

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Speaker 2: else is under fifty years old.

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Speaker 3: And six of the eight are defensive guys, yes, which

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Speaker 3: I found very interesting. Antonio Piers, Raheem Morris, dan Quinn,

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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald, Gerrod Mayo.

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Speaker 2: That's five of the eight, five of the eighth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you had Canalis, Harbaugh and Callahan as the offensive

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris, he's defensive coordinator. Yeah, it's five of the

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Speaker 2: eight Canalis, Harbaugh, Callahan offensive guys. That's three of the eight,

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Speaker 2: so three plus five so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just one. It's just one guy

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Speaker 3: that makes it a fit, do you know, fifty to

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Speaker 3: fifty but everybody's well yeah, but you gotta Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: big trend is you got to get an offensive guy.

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Speaker 3: Gotta get an offensive guy. I'm I'm kind of on that.

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Speaker 3: Just get the best guy, Yeah, get the best guy,

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: And two people who are not head coaches and won't

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Speaker 2: be at least for another calendar year. Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel and Pete Carroll. Well yeah, but is Carol

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Speaker 3: But it could be anything, could be unless it's like

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Speaker 3: You don't have to make him.

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Speaker 2: not ten less than ten your bills news. On NFL

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Speaker 3: Twenty three, He's in the top five.

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Speaker 2: He is not kah They ranked him sixth. Okay, now

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Speaker 3: Tua not Tua. Thank goodness, Oh my gosh, my head

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Speaker 2: One, there are two quarterbacks and one skill position player

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Speaker 3: Right now, two quarterbacks and a skill position player.

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Speaker 2: So you have guessed Lamar and Christian McCaffrey correctly. I'll say, hey,

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Speaker 3: Can't they know he skilled position player? A o afc Kelsey?

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank goodness for that too, Oh, Tyreek Tyreek.

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Speaker 2: So now you have the two quarterbacks left. So three

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Speaker 3: All right, I say, is Purty in there, Perty is

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Speaker 2: Okay, goff, you're missing the obvious.

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Speaker 3: Oh Mahomes, Mahomes. Mahomes is really after this regular sea

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Speaker 2: Now let's just say this. Your author of this fine

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Speaker 2: Let that be known. One Lamar two Christian McCaffrey three,

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Speaker 2: And this is how this is how he describes Josh,

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Speaker 3: And he put he put Tyreek and McCaffrey in front

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Speaker 2: And brock Purty and brock Purty all brock Purty. Now

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Speaker 3: They love him. Kyle Shanahan would throw brock Purty into

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brocket's been real. It's been nice, but it hasn't

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Speaker 3: They would there is There are thirty. There are almost

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Speaker 2: Who is David Carr kidding? It's one guy that put

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Speaker 3: And the rest of us have a lot of motrols.

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Speaker 2: He's a former quarterback rank in this though. C. D.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's what that list is. You don't want to

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Speaker 3: tell you what that list is, fodder. That list is

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Speaker 3: a list of the best stories in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: Fifteen Offensive final Top fifteen offensive player rankings for the

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Speaker 3: That's the fifteen storylines. Thanks for them on offensive side.

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Speaker 3: That's not that has nothing to do with the with

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Speaker 2: It's right there. NFL dot Com lap it up like

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Speaker 2: twenty four offseason. Question for you today, what change this

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Speaker 6: Well, First of all, good afternoon, gentlemen. Is thanks to

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Speaker 6: what's taking our call. I want to answer your question

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Speaker 6: first question. Then now I want to make my comment.

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Speaker 6: What I call for the question on the defensive side

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Speaker 6: of me is something what we would talk about yesterday

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Speaker 6: is planning young guys that we have in our secondary,

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Speaker 6: like Elm and they're not at the same time. Maybe

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Speaker 6: we can move one guy to safety and build off that.

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Speaker 6: I will sign Rap. That's definitely that will be a

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Speaker 6: game plan for me to get wrapped in here and

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Speaker 6: looking Saran Neil a little bit more. But that's what

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Speaker 6: I'll do. And then in the draft and instead of

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Speaker 6: going wide receiver in the first round, I'm looking at

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Speaker 6: defensive tackles. I'm looking at the inside interior. And now

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Speaker 6: I'm going to go to my question. My question for

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Speaker 6: you guys, and before you shoot this down, and I

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Speaker 6: know you probably will, but I just want you to

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Speaker 6: think about why I asked this question. Now. Normally, well

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Speaker 6: answer normally, Brandy Bean has some decisions to make fires

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Speaker 6: getting some money for our football team. He's going to

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Speaker 6: have to bring all the money guys to the table

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Speaker 6: by restructures or moving money around. I have a question

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Speaker 6: for you. Now, I love Stefan Diggs Geary, I'm not

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Speaker 6: knocking him at all, but I'm looking at the business

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Speaker 6: side of it. Say hypothetics, all hypotheticals. If we bring

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Speaker 6: Digs to the table and when to restructures deal and

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Speaker 6: he doesn't want to do anything to help the team

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Speaker 6: and we have to move him, now, this is my

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Speaker 6: question to be you two. AJ Brown's over there Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: he has a million dollars, he has one hundred million

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Speaker 6: dollar contract Digs in ninety six. I think, if I'm

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Speaker 6: not mistaken, I think AJ's got two years left like

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Speaker 6: Digs do or whatever. If we go man for man

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Speaker 6: and at the same time, by Aj being a little younger,

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Speaker 6: and then at the same time he does have a

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Speaker 6: report with Dawson's coming out of Old Miss can that happen?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: Like that? Can they go man for man, contract for

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Speaker 6: contract and at the same time we're doing Digs a

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Speaker 6: figure putting in an NFC East so we could face

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Speaker 6: his brother twice a year in the CBS or Fox

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Speaker 6: can can glorify that.

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Speaker 3: Butchie, why would Philly do that?

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Speaker 6: Because I mean, I'm just I'm going based off the hearsay.

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Speaker 2: Now, were rumors that AJ Brown might be both this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see how that's gonna happen. Butch I mean,

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Speaker 2: talk is one thing, but the dead cap is the

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Speaker 2: biggest deterrent here because both teams, while they would be

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Speaker 2: probably in their minds maybe considering that equal value, maybe

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Speaker 2: they don't. Who knows, because you know, AJ Brown's only

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. But let's just say they think it is

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Speaker 2: equal value in terms of player and helping their team.

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Speaker 2: It's the dead cap that's the deterrent. It's thirty one

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Speaker 2: million this year for Diggs and it's forty two million

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Speaker 2: for AJ Brown. I don't see how they can work

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Speaker 2: around a number that fat. I mean, that's like a

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Speaker 2: quarterback salary of dead cap money. I mean that's just

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Speaker 2: to me, it doesn't make it feasible.

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Speaker 6: Can I have a question, though, give me ask you

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Speaker 6: a question though? If we just say that did happen

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Speaker 6: that when got forty two million dollar cap? Did you

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Speaker 6: speaking of if we got to hear it, could we

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Speaker 6: need work a deal and get him a deal where

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Speaker 6: we can lower that bus.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know that it I don't know

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Speaker 2: that it helps Philly though I'd have to.

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Speaker 3: I'd have to take them if you can get if

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Speaker 3: you can get Philly to say yes to that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean like a sign and trade no, because the

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Speaker 3: dead cap still hits.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can make it as friendly as you want,

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Speaker 2: but I think if you.

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Speaker 3: Trade him, see here's the thing, we could make it

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Speaker 3: better for the Yeah, the Bills could restructure the contract

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Speaker 3: whenever they want and make it better for them. But

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Speaker 3: Philly still got a forty two million dollars whack on

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Speaker 3: their on their cap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That that's the issue because when you trade somebody,

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Speaker 2: all that money accelerates.

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Speaker 3: Everything they've paid him or promised to pay him goes

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Speaker 3: into the cap this year. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, it's thirty million dollars cheaper to keep

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Speaker 2: him on their roster this year than it is to

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Speaker 2: move him. It's twelve four to keep aj Brown on

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Speaker 2: their on their roster, and it's forty two and a

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Speaker 2: half to move them. Like it just you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the business side. That just doesn't make sense

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Speaker 2: business wise right in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, you're talking about whether you

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Speaker 3: don't think the Bills asking these money guys to come

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Speaker 3: back to the table to restructure their deals. Those guys

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Speaker 3: will stand in line to come back and restructure their deals.

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Speaker 2: Because you're putting more money in their pocket because than

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Speaker 2: not right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what that means is you're giving them all this

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Speaker 3: future bonuses and incentives and base salary and all that

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Speaker 3: stuff they have to wait on till the season starts.

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Speaker 3: You're giving it to them right now as a bonus.

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Speaker 3: That's what that means. So all the players are all

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Speaker 3: about reworking their deal. It's not like they're out there

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Speaker 3: going on I mean.

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Speaker 2: But now, if you're going to them saying you got

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Speaker 2: to take a pay cut, that's.

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Speaker 3: A different story. That's different because and that has happened here.

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Speaker 3: If you're asking guys to take less money than you've

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Speaker 3: already guaranteed them in a previous contract, good luck. You

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna do that. But if you're asking to give

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Speaker 3: it to them now so they can lower the cap

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Speaker 3: hit going forward, yeah they'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's go back to the phones and to Albert

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo.

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Speaker 7: What do you got, Albert, who's gonna if mulaney milanal

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Speaker 7: comes back, Like, who's gonna be one of the other linebackers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's basically gonna be Bernard and Milano. That's

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Speaker 2: how the season started and and that's how it would continue.

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Speaker 2: I suppose, uh, your third linebacker I would assume would

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Speaker 2: be Dorian Williams in his second season. Tyrrel Johnson is

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Speaker 2: a free agent, so he may or may not be back,

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Speaker 2: and then you have Baylen Spector. There wouldn't surprise me

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Speaker 2: if they had another linebacker Drafter.

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Speaker 3: Inspector has been a good special teams guy and he's

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Speaker 3: played pretty well when he's gotten in, but he's he's

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Speaker 3: really struggled to stay healthy. As soon as he gets

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Speaker 3: back on the field for any length of time, particularly

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Speaker 3: playing regular down in distances linebacker, he seems to get nicked.

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Speaker 3: So that's probably a concern for them going forward. But

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Speaker 3: they I think they like him as a player, but

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Speaker 3: he's struggled to stay healthy thus far in his career.

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Speaker 3: Although short, small sample size.

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Speaker 2: Ye over to Kevin in Williamsville. Next, what do you

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Speaker 2: got for us?

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Speaker 3: Kevin?

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Speaker 8: First, to just share with us how you like your coffee?

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Speaker 8: And number two, my question would be, you know there's

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Speaker 8: three hundred and seventy one Hall of Famers, ten of

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Speaker 8: them are Heisman Trophy winners. My question leads into that

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Speaker 8: our NFL scouts sad enough to determine which college prospects

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Speaker 8: have peaked or soon to peak and still growing Allah

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Speaker 8: Tom Brady and others.

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Speaker 3: It's curious. It's an art, not a science, that's for sure,

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Speaker 3: and they have tried to make that possible to predict

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Speaker 3: how a guy's going to be in the future. They

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Speaker 3: compare where what they saw and a guy like Tom

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Speaker 3: Brady or a guy like Drew Breeze, or a guy

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Speaker 3: like name your Heisman Trophy winner or quarterback or whoever

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Speaker 3: you want to call it. They have honed in and

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Speaker 3: they've gone to professionals like psychoanalysts, psychologists, therapists, UH, professional interrogators,

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Speaker 3: private investigators, body language experts, go down the list and

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Speaker 3: they employ all of those types of expertise trying to

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Speaker 3: decipher which of these guys fits a profile that they

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Speaker 3: think will make a guy like what you're talking about,

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Speaker 3: a guy who is on the ascent or has greatness

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Speaker 3: locked in within him and just has had the right

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Speaker 3: opportunity to do it, or a guy that they've already

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Speaker 3: got on their roster. Same thing, How can we unlock him, right,

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Speaker 3: how can we have him reached his full potential? All

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Speaker 3: of that is in the in the mix.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that you also need to find somebody, somebody

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Speaker 2: with character that is rooted in self motivation, right, and

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Speaker 2: is the job playing football for people that talented has

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Speaker 2: been easy for them in high school and in college.

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Speaker 2: So you better make sure that that player, when they

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Speaker 2: get to the NFL, has the intestinal fortitude to motivate

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Speaker 2: himself to be the best he can be, because it

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Speaker 2: becomes a lot harder when he's playing against all the

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Speaker 2: other alpha males that make up the one percent of

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Speaker 2: players that make it to the NFL. Because the job

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Speaker 2: gets significantly harder, the demands and the time spent on

605
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Speaker 2: the craft become almost endless. It is an endless pursuit

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Speaker 2: of perfection just to hang and stay in the league,

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Speaker 2: let alone excel in the league if you're fortunate enough

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Speaker 2: to do so.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot in your question, Kevin, But you can

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Speaker 3: bet that yes, an inexact science, an inexact science, and

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Speaker 3: an art forman because.

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Speaker 2: At its root it's a projection.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the problems with facing these guys is, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got Heisman Trophy winners. Ten Heisman Trophy winners have

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Speaker 3: made it to the Hall of Fame, and there have

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Speaker 3: been others who have been good players, and there's others

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Speaker 3: who were not very good professional players. The problem is

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Speaker 3: the professional football is not as similar to college football

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Speaker 3: as you might think. It's a it's a vastly different atmosphere.

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Speaker 3: That also makes it hard to project.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what makes the projection so tough. Gotta take

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Speaker 2: a break here, but we'll get back to more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls. Peter and Tennessee. You'll lead us off,

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Speaker 2: followed by Chad out in Illinois. We're Chris crossing the

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Speaker 2: country here on Bill's Live. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 2: in a second. Stay tuned. All right, back here on

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Speaker 2: one of Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: What changed this offseason do you think will help the

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Speaker 2: Bills defense the most in twenty twenty four? Feel free

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Speaker 2: to weigh in on that at eight O threeho five

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eighty eight eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty and we go to Peter in Tennessee. Next.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Peter?

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me, Stephen, Chris, I think Matt Molano.

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Speaker 9: Coming back healthy and staying healthy is the most important

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Speaker 9: thing for defense. But I did also want to make

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Speaker 9: a suggestion about a potential to improve coaching. Okay, And

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys remember the cartoons where

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Speaker 9: there's an angel on one shoulder and a devil on

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Speaker 9: the other. I think Sean McDermott is great with the angel.

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Speaker 9: I want to give him a devil. So Mike Rabel

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Speaker 9: is under contract for the Titans at a head coach

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Speaker 9: salary for the next two years. He's not getting a

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Speaker 9: head coach job. He would be an excellent special assistant

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Speaker 9: coach for game management.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's interesting. I like that he's very

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Speaker 3: good at it. I think that's one of his most

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 3: it's one of his most endearing qualities. I will never

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Speaker 3: forget him doing that to Bill Belichick and getting the

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Speaker 3: best of him in that situation, and it's it's stuck

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Speaker 3: with me for a long time. He's really good at it.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate that idea. I think we have to see.

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Speaker 2: Do we even know if he would entertain something like that,

656
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

657
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're not going to get Mike ra able to

658
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: come up and be a game management coach for another

659
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: franchise while he's waiting on a head coach in the gig.

660
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Although maybe it'll appeal to I think maybe maybe want

661
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: to expand his horizons and watch the Bills do their

662
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: business and all that, Maybe I doubt it.

663
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too is we have to

664
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: wait and see how everything shakes out with new defensive

665
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: coordinator Bobby Babbage. Is he calling the plays or is

666
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: Sean just taking you know, stepping away from that after

667
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: a year of doing it and is just going to

668
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: be the head coach again. Because if he is well,

669
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: then there is more time and resources and brain power

670
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: he can devote just to his head coaching duties on

671
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: game day and not also do you know the coordinating

672
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: of the defense and the play calling. So I think

673
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: how that shakes out would play a factor and a

674
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: decision like that too, But yeah, I don't know. I

675
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: don't like, I don't hate the idea, but I would

676
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: be surprised if Rabel would take on something like that.

677
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: But who knows, Maybe stranger things have happened. I could

678
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: always pick up the phone and see.

679
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure, let's go.

680
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Speaker 2: To Chad in Illinois next. What do you got for

681
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: his Chad?

682
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Speaker 10: Hey, well, let's appreciate you taking my call. Sure, But

683
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 10: the question that I had is, I know that there's

684
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 10: been a lot of talk. Well, first off, I don't

685
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 10: even know what the status is of Boyer and Hide

686
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 10: for this upcoming season and going forward. But that being said,

687
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 10: I heard a lot of rumblings about picking up a

688
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 10: safety in the early first in the early rounds of

689
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Speaker 10: the draft. I don't love that idea, just because I

690
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 10: think that I think there might be more what would

691
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 10: what would be thoughts of trade A White. I know

692
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 10: that we've got some depth at corner now, he's coming

693
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 10: up a couple of injury seasons. I don't know what's

694
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 10: going to happen with trade A. But is there any

695
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Speaker 10: way that he can make that transition to a safety

696
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 10: position and kind of continue to re and reinvent his

697
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 10: his his career. Basically, I know that some corners in

698
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 10: the past have done that. I just I would love

699
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 10: to see trade and make that that transition. What are

700
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 10: your thoughts on that, Fellows?

701
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I have not heard or entertained any any

702
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: serious thought about getting a safety high in this draft.

703
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a position you do that way.

704
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: I'm so I'm with you there, Chad. I'm a Poyer

705
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: and Hide Uh. Poyer is under contract another year. Hide

706
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: is not. There's no question that they're gonna have to

707
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: do something at those two spots. H Taylor Rapp isn't

708
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: even under under contract going forward. So they've got to

709
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: find somebody to play that. And whether the guy's on

710
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: the roster or the guys are on the roster, whether

711
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: it's Christian Benford or Tredavious White or somebody they've transitioned

712
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: into that role, or one of the guys they have

713
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: on the roster, they're gonna have to do something until

714
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: that changes. Yes, other corners have, and I think it

715
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: comes down to the guy himself. Certainly, the athleticism is

716
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: there for Tredavius pending him coming back from the injuries,

717
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: of course, And you don't have to be so stop

718
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: and go and so sudden and explosive at safety that

719
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: you do at corner. Safety is a game is a

720
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: position that's played between your ears more so than from

721
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: the waist down, you know what I mean. So certainly

722
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: they got to be great athletes back there, but by

723
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: NFL standards, you're talking a position that is played from

724
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Speaker 3: the neck up.

725
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Speaker 2: I think the fly in the ointment here is what

726
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: you've already referenced, which is Trudevious White's rehabilitation schedule. I

727
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: mean he did it on October first at surgery, presumably

728
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: a week or two after that, so now you're into

729
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: mid October, and that can sometimes take up to a

730
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: year before a player can even get back on the

731
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Speaker 2: field and play. And I think because of that uncertain nature,

732
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bills want to put their eggs

733
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: in that basket, and on top of that, say, oh,

734
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: by the way, play this totally new position where the

735
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: angles all different, the reads are all different, and you're

736
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: running a defense to a certain extent in terms of

737
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Speaker 2: what's happening on the back end. So I don't know.

738
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: I understand the premise like, hey, he's had two major injuries.

739
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Maybe he can't play corner anymore, but he can play safety.

740
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: I get the idea of that, Chad, and I don't

741
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: hate it, but I think because of the uncertain nature

742
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: of his own physical health, that's a risky path to

743
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: go down. Like, oh boy, we've got holes at safety.

744
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: Let's fill it with this guy who we don't know

745
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: if is going to be ready by the start of

746
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 2: the season. Like I just don't see Brandon Bean and

747
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott going that route. You want to try to

748
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: fill as many holes as possible with reliable answers. Now,

749
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: obviously you don't know if new people coming in are

750
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: going to be perfect fits. You know what Tradevius White's about,

751
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: but you've never seen him play safety either, so that's

752
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: not a sure fit either. Then you throw his health

753
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: on top of that, I think it makes it too

754
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: uncertain for them to go down that path, even if

755
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: it would make sense in a perfect world. We're not

756
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: in a perfect world with Tradevius White's playing ability right

757
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: now because of his injury history. Unfortunately. Let's go to

758
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: Mark in Jersey City next, what's up? Mark?

759
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: Uh? Good?

760
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 11: Afternion gentlemen, and kind of piggyback on what the caller

761
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 11: just talked about in two ways and the athleticism in

762
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 11: the middle, not into using high assets on safety. Jordan

763
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 11: Poyer wasn't a very highly touted free agent signing, and

764
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 11: people were like, maybe best special teams guy, good solid backup.

765
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 11: Hyde was the guy like, oh, nice player, but as

766
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 11: a pairing they were you know, we all know what

767
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 11: they became. I'm in that mode, you know, just some

768
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 11: higher end athletes in the middle would be nice. And

769
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 11: with Trey, my idea is if the Bills could do

770
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 11: what you did with Cordy Glynn, simply swap him to

771
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 11: get yourself better draft position. He's got a really nice

772
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 11: contract for a starting corner. I know his health is,

773
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 11: you know, a major question mark, but so was Corty's.

774
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 11: The Bills just position themselves with the Bengals to I

775
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 11: believe they moved up from a mid twenties to like

776
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 11: they had, like back to back picks twenty one and

777
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 11: twenty two, was able to springboard up to twelve. I

778
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 11: would like to see them do that with Tree. I

779
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 11: don't have any names for safety. I'm still, you know,

780
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 11: haven't gotten off the wide receiver train yet and I

781
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 11: probably won't so, but I think it's a nice class.

782
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 11: But there's definitely not anybody worth grabbing with. I would

783
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 11: say in the top two rounds. Thanks for taking my call.

784
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Ye Yeah not safety, Yeah, we're not.

785
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think any of us are worried about them

786
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: taking a safety high. I think there are far more

787
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: pressing needs at more expensive positions, So you would assume,

788
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: knowing they have to save money, would fill those positions.

789
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle, defensive end, wide receiver all in the draft.

790
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: Those are three of the five to six highest positions

791
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 2: on average annual salary in the league. If you're trying

792
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: to save money, you try to fill those holes with

793
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: draft picks. Safety not as an expensive not as expense

794
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: of a position. And I'm just gonna say this. We

795
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: saw it happen last year. There were eighteen starters at

796
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: safety who were free agents last offseason, and the supply

797
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: far outweighed the demand, and almost no one, with the

798
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: exception of Jesse Bates, got paid their fair market value.

799
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: Everyone took a hit because the market was flush with

800
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: free agents. Guess what it's happening again. Buddha Baker, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson,

801
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: Jordan Whitehead, Chuck Clark, jay Ron Curse, Eric Murray, Jayalen Mills,

802
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: Darnell Savage, Mike Edwards, Tshan Gibson, Kareem Jackson, Jeremy Reeves,

803
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: Will Harris, Cody Davis, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Duggar. I mean

804
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: these are not just nobody's there's like top flight guys

805
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: who might get a good contract, but everybody that's second

806
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: tier and lower who can start in this league and

807
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: be productive for you, Like Mike Edwards from Kansas City.

808
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: I take that guy in a second good player. Yeah, yeah,

809
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: I think the supply is gonna be there again where

810
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: you can get an affordable value for a veteran player

811
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: to fill one of your safety spocks.

812
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: Right, there's a that is well to be putting on this.

813
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: As important as Poyer and Hide have been to the

814
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: success of the defense, mostly you can. You can tell

815
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: for Bill's fans and people like Brownie Nite. You tell

816
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: because you hear it from experts. You say, man, those

817
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: guys are awesome. Right, that's not even all of them.

818
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: You see some turnovers and all that. Here's the thing,

819
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: it's not for as good as Poyer and Hide have

820
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: been and as important as they are, it's not a

821
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: money position. You're not gonna spend a lot of high assets.

822
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have a lot of those guys are

823
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: making like five million a year and they were elite.

824
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: They're a wide out makes eighteen a white out like

825
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: Tyreek's making thirty.

826
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: And you got safeties like Poyer and Hide.

827
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: These aren't just Joe the Poyer and Hide are making

828
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: like not between five and tags. Yeah, they're like, it's.

829
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: It's not there on the back side of there career, right, but.

830
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: It's it's not a money position. You're you're gonna be

831
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: able to find guys who can play, and particularly with

832
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: you know, given Poyer and Hide success and how long

833
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: it's gone, you're gonna get better athletes at this point

834
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: right out of the gate. Now, whether they can they're

835
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: not gonna play like Poyer and Hide out of the gate,

836
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: but they're gonna be athletic like those guys, and they

837
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: can overcome some of their mental deficiencies, you know, their

838
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: lack of experience, their lack of you know, seeing concepts

839
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: and reacting quicker. They're gonna be able to overcome some

840
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: of that was just some athleticism some of the new guys.

841
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: But you're not gonna spend a You're not gonna spend

842
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: anything on day one, maybe even day two on a

843
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: safety and you're gonna you're gonna it's gonna be two

844
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: and a half weeks into free agency before you sign.

845
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: One Antoine Winfield, Junior Taylor Rapp to Shaun Elliott, Justin Evans,

846
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Rodney McLeod, Jeremy Chin. I mean, I mean they're all

847
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: over the place. You can find safeties just walking around

848
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: the block. I mean, that's how much supply there's been

849
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: the last two off seasons. This season is no different

850
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: from last year. I think you can get a great

851
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: value at the safety position. You'll let the dust settle

852
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: on the first two weeks of free agency and then

853
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: go find the best of the lot. And guess what,

854
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: There's going to be five to eight guys that are

855
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: starting caliber that you can get for an affordable price.

856
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. More coming up, including

857
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: your phone calls. Second hour of the show. We've got

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Speaker 2: Zach Kerr joining us from CBS Sports. We'll be talking

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00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: to him, but we want to know from you, what

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00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: change this offseason do you think will help the Bills

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty ft two

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00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. We do

869
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: have some open lines for you. We will take this opportunity, however,

870
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: to jump on the tweetsheet, which is brought to you

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872
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills and m r W says Bobby Babbage,

873
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: as the DC will help a lot. Need a new safety,

874
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: defensive end and defensive tackle though through the draft. In

875
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: all likelihood, as I just stated in the last segment,

876
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: I think a safety can be had. You need two

877
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: free agency Yeah, maybe two.

878
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: Maybe you're gonna have more than that on the roster.

879
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Maybe not starting. I mean, Pooryer could come back and

880
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: give it another year, but Tato raps under a contract.

881
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: And then you do need defensive end and defensive tackle additions,

882
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: and not just one. Ajpanessa, Leonard Floyd and Shaq Laws

883
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: and are all free agents at the end position. And

884
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: then everybody not named Ed Oliver at defensive tackle is

885
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 2: a free agent too. So just from a year numbers

886
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: standpoint eight of your twelve defensive alignment on the twenty

887
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: twenty three roster of free agents.

888
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: We had the discussion earlier today when we were talking

889
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: about what we're gonna talk about, what we would talk

890
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: about on the show, and what the we would put,

891
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: what question we would put to you our listeners. We

892
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: thought about just making it about the d line, defensive

893
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: end or defensive tackle, what's more important and we just

894
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: decided to open it up to the whole defense. But

895
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: it's it's a big deal and right now there is

896
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: no bigger question mark on the entire roster than what

897
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna do on the defensive line. They got like

898
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: three guys, three four. Who's the fourth? It's vo Russeau, Russeau,

899
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: u von Rousseau, ed Oliver and there's one other on there.

900
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: What's the other one? Now, I gotta look it up.

901
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna make me do work here.

902
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: It's our guy, it's our it's our guy. We like

903
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: oh Kingsley Jonathan. So there's three ends and a tackle, correct?

904
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: They need four new guys to play every Sunday? Yeah,

905
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: and then and then another fe or four to be

906
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: ready to go to camp. The injuries happen and go

907
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: to camp. It's there's a ton of guys.

908
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, let's jump back on the phone lines here

909
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: and we'll go to Michael in Buffalo. What do you

910
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: got for us? Michael?

911
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: I was talking about the defensive line, what we be

912
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: for our games. I really wanted to play like Bruce

913
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: Smith from his era. So you had Bruce Smith on

914
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: the run, I don't care what you did. He was

915
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 4: good against the run, he good geinst the plays and

916
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: so I know you not a lot of other players,

917
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: but we got one.

918
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: Player because it was good to me, right. I think

919
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: picking twenty eighth Michael, Michael is going to make it

920
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: difficult to find Bruce Smith thinking yeah, we all do respect.

921
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: You ain't find him. There ain't no Bruce Smith's out there.

922
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: He is a unicorn. Trust me. I know the guy.

923
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: He's a friend of mine. There ain't nobody like him ever.

924
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: He's one of one. And yes, if you had an

925
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: him coming out, yeah, you got two hundred sacks in

926
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: his career, two hundred.

927
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: If not like I was coming out, he'd be the

928
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: first pick in the draft. You would again sniff of

929
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 2: him anyway, he yes, picking twenty eight.

930
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I get I get your point. I'm I'm thinking,

931
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm we'd all love to have it. I know you're

932
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: being it's you're exaggerating to make a point. Yes, Bruce,

933
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 3: bro Bruce is a game wrecker. He's a game. He's

934
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: sixty and he's a game wrecker. I mean he almost

935
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: wrecked the pregame of the playoff game. He is a

936
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: game wrecker still, So yeah, I mean, yes, let's go

937
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: get a Bruce Smith. I am on board with you.

938
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: If I am with you, if you have a plan

939
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: show me where Bruce is, I am with you one

940
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: hundred percent.

941
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: You could work out a plan to make that happen.

942
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: Show me, call me and if I like that plan,

943
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: I will put you in direct contact.

944
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: I will I will light that pas for you with

945
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: my support. Yes, absolutely get the premise.

946
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: But far Yeah, they said, than done, dude, Bruce.

947
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: They ain't there ain't never been anybody like him, It

948
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: ain't never going to be anybody like him. And he was.

949
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: He was the first pick of the NFL Draft and

950
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: a first ballot Hall of Famer, and there was there

951
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: was no drop off in between, right, I mean, he

952
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: was at that level for twenty years, twenty five years,

953
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: because it takes him in of wait five years, he

954
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: played for I think nineteen or maybe twenty and then

955
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: was right to the Hall of Fame. I mean the

956
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: guy was as rubber stamped to the Hall of Fame

957
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: as you can get.

958
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, from what I understand, he could presdentation at the

959
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame selectors meeting. The guy presenting him stood

960
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: up and said Bruce Smith.

961
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 3: And sat that down. That's right.

962
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: There was no politicking, there was no campaigning, there was

963
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: no lobbying. He just stood up.

964
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: He stood up, said Bruce Smith, sat down and set down.

965
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: That's what you do.

966
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: Then we take a vote. Yes, is he in?

967
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: Yes?

968
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks everybody.

969
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 3: Appreciate your stopping by. That's it. So, yeah, you're right, Mike,

970
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: he's If he's out there, go find him, and I

971
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: promise I'll support your campaign to have him be a Buffalo.

972
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Speaker 2: Bill Gotta take a break here. When we come back,

973
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with CBS Sports Jeff Kerr. He's got

974
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Speaker 2: some interesting write ups on cbssports dot com, including the

975
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Speaker 2: fifty eight most Interesting things that happened in the twenty

976
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Speaker 2: twenty three season. We will get to that with Jeff

977
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Speaker 2: Kerr when we return here on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: by coliud of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

979
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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by called lighta Health.

980
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: All right, here we are. I'll re number two on

981
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: a Thursday. First Browns, do you task it with you?

982
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: And happy to be joined now by NFL writer for

983
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: CBS Sports Jeff Kerr. You canna give us a little

984
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: time here in between times that he's cranking out content

985
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 2: for cbssports dot Com. Cranked went out like while we're

986
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: while we're on the show here in the first hour.

987
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just non stop. The fingers are working, Jeff.

988
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 2: How you doing? First of all, and second of all,

989
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: fifty eight things to remember about the twenty twenty three season.

990
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: There's a couple on here we'd prefer to omit, but

991
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second. What gave Taylor

992
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: Swift and Travis Kelcey the edge over Bill Belichick and

993
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: the Patriots parting ways and the Aaron Rodgers injury which

994
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: came in right behind them.

995
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 5: Well, you know what's funny, guys. So, as someone who

996
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 5: grew up in Burke's County and had to deal with

997
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift maybea since she was nine years old. I'm

998
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 5: kind of immune to it at this point. But when

999
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: you got drunk Jason Kelcey at Buffalo Stadium, when you

1000
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 5: got Taylor in there, when you got fifty million people

1001
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 5: watching playoff games, whether they care about the Chiefs winning

1002
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 5: or Taylor Swift or Travis Kelsey or whatever, I felt

1003
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: like that's what we talked about all year, like what

1004
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift is doing, what Travis Kelcey is doing. Why

1005
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: is Taylor Swift the reason Travis Kelcey isn't Travis kelce anymore.

1006
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 5: And you know they chased are back in the Super

1007
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 5: Bowl anyway, So it turned out she wasn't a distraction

1008
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: as we all thought. I felt like that was something

1009
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: we talked about all year long, more than and you

1010
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: know what, I ironically, guys, I didn't put this in,

1011
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: but I probably should have. Everybody made such a big

1012
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 5: deal about the Bills being six and six, and obviously

1013
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 5: the guys that they're gonna make the playoffs, so they're

1014
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 5: fine that they're gonna make the playoffs. Got Josh how

1015
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: they'll probably win the division and they ended up doing.

1016
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: That well It certainly worked out that way, and you're

1017
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 3: right this season, if you took snapshots at any given moment,

1018
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: it looked very different than maybe it did was going

1019
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: to look like. At the end, you know that the

1020
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: Eagles were ten and one. For goodness sakes, There's a

1021
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: lot of stuff that went on. It was a roller coaster,

1022
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: but at the end of it all. One of the

1023
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: other things you wrote about was the end of the era,

1024
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: the Bill Belichick era in New England. Now, certainly here

1025
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: in Buffalo were ultra sensitive to what goes on over

1026
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 3: there because we've got so much scar tissue from that era.

1027
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: But what do you think it means going forward for then?

1028
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: I'm I and I made the idea Belichick is like

1029
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: him or not. The guy is an asset. I thought

1030
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: the league would hire him as an executive so he

1031
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: could help them, you know, foresee the future where the

1032
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: league's headed. What are your thoughts about what happens to

1033
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: New England going forward? How good can they be this

1034
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: year under Gerrod Mayo? What you know? What are we

1035
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: looking at there?

1036
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 5: I think Girard bo was more of a player's coach

1037
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 5: of Bill Belichick, and I ultimately think that's why Belichick

1038
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 5: didn't get hired. It's a different generation of players. You

1039
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 5: got to kind of tailor to them. And Bill said

1040
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 5: in his ways, right, you know, he's won his way,

1041
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 5: so you can't criticize the coach for that. But I

1042
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: felt like the Patriots hire one and the same when

1043
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 5: they hired Drod Mayo. It's like, Okay, we're just gonna

1044
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 5: get a younger version of Bill Belichick in there. You know,

1045
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 5: why keep the guy who's been as successful for your franchise.

1046
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: But maybe they thought what I thought. It's Bill Belichick's

1047
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: success had a lot to do with Tom Brady being

1048
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 5: under center, and he just never was able to replicate

1049
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 5: Tom Brady. And I think it just kills Robert Kraft

1050
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 5: that the Bills are the kings of the AA Sea

1051
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 5: East and the Patriots are last. I mean, the Patriots

1052
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: had their fewest wins in the season since nineteen ninety two.

1053
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy to think about because growing up,

1054
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 5: the Patriots are always to me a losing franchise, and

1055
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: then Bill Belichick came along and they just kept winning

1056
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 5: and winning and winning. So yeah, it's I'm still shocked

1057
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 5: the guys not a head coach to be honest with

1058
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 5: you see.

1059
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: One that kind of surprised me, and I think it

1060
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: was more because of the when than the what. But

1061
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: seeing Dan Snyder sell the Commanders, I think made a

1062
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: lot of people happy, not only the thirty one other

1063
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: owners in the league, but probably everybody on the del

1064
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: Marva Peninsula. But the fact that it happened in season,

1065
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: like it was kind of like while the season was going,

1066
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: was the craziest thing to me. I don't know that

1067
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: I ever thought we would have witnessed something like that,

1068
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: but there it is, and it goes for just over

1069
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: six bill.

1070
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, you know what, this season has been

1071
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 5: so crazy. I almost forgotten it happened during the season,

1072
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 5: but they did, and it kind of real juveniated command

1073
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 5: the Commander's fans. I mean I had so my relative mine,

1074
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: he's a big Commander's fan.

1075
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 12: And first thing he says to me, where are they

1076
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 12: gonna change the name? How would I know?

1077
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know they're gonna change the name, But

1078
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 5: that's what they're talking about down there. It's all the

1079
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 5: all the possibilities, like who's gonna be their coach, who's

1080
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 5: gonna be the you know the GM, who's you know,

1081
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 5: it ended up being a Peers and dan Quinn.

1082
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 12: Dan Quinn got hired today.

1083
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 5: But you know, now it's can they get a Michael

1084
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 5: Parsons because of the Johan Dodson tweat? Can they get

1085
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 5: free agents to come back here?

1086
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 12: You know?

1087
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 5: And are they gonna get a new stadium? Where's the

1088
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 5: new stadium gonna be? Where it's practicality gonna be. It

1089
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: just feels like the Commanders have suffered. That franchise has

1090
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: suffered for twenty five years because of what Dan Snyder did.

1091
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 12: We all see to forget.

1092
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 5: This is the same franchise that won three Super Bowls

1093
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties and you guys have you

1094
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: know the whole Derman Thomas Helmet gate that was the

1095
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 5: one super Bowl and Joe Gibbs won them with three

1096
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: different quarterbacks. So I think they're trying to get back

1097
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 5: to that. It is ironic though, Dan Steyer's best period

1098
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 5: of successes when he hired Joe Gibbs back and they

1099
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 5: only won what one playoff game? I think they went

1100
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 5: to the playoffs twice in the four years he was there.

1101
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it's it really was a has been

1102
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: a roller coaster for the Washington fans. You're right, it

1103
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: does seem like that's a franchise that has at least stabilized.

1104
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 3: And now they've got dan Quinn as their head coach.

1105
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: What do you think he brings to the table and

1106
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: what does that do for their franchise.

1107
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 5: It's clear they wanted a defensive mind to head coach.

1108
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 5: Their defense was pitiful last year. I mean it was

1109
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: pitoful when they had Chase Young and Montes Sweat and

1110
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 5: then they traded them. I still don't get why they

1111
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 5: traded Montes Sweat, but you know their loss was the

1112
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 5: Beggars game. But their second theary was terrible last year.

1113
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 5: They couldn't tackle, They let go so many pass touches.

1114
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 5: So dan Quinn's going to get that fixed. First, I'm

1115
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 5: curiously who he hires as his offensive quarter air because

1116
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 5: that's going to be massive. And while these guys are

1117
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 5: getting second chances in the league, you know, Raheem Morris,

1118
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 5: dan Quinn, We're seeing a lot a lot of these

1119
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 5: head coach which is crazy that Mike Rabol, by the way,

1120
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 5: was not hired this cycle. Maybe he wont to much power,

1121
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: I'll know, but I think the familiarity with the MC

1122
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 5: east is really going to help dan Quinn out there.

1123
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 5: And again, I think Washington is kind of a good

1124
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: job right now, just because it can't get any worse

1125
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 5: than what it's been under Ron Rivera, Jay Gruden, whoever

1126
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 5: you want to name. And you know, I think Josh

1127
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 5: Harris has shown at least you know, growing up. You know,

1128
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 5: I'm a six Ers fan with six or season ticket

1129
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 5: over He's been patient with his head coaches, So I

1130
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 5: think dan Quinn's going to get the benefit of the

1131
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: doubt out there, at least get a couple of years.

1132
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: I know you also kind of issued your super Bowl

1133
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: prediction based on a few based on a few factors here.

1134
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: I know Bills fans are tired of seeing the Chiefs win,

1135
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: but I tend to think that Mahomes is going to

1136
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: find a way to get it done too. But you

1137
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: kind of drilled down a little deeper on on the

1138
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: why you think that the Chiefs are gonna come out

1139
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: of this thing with their third Super Bowl in five years.

1140
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Maybe just lay that out for us.

1141
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really like the Chiefs offensive line personally, and

1142
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 5: again I saw this firsthand when they beat the Eagles

1143
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 5: last year in the Super Bowl. And I always say

1144
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: you don't bet against mahomes of Ree, but don't bet

1145
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 5: against this offensive line year. It's as strong as it

1146
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 5: was last year, but it's still really good. And you

1147
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 5: know you got a guy like Nick al al ready

1148
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 5: coming in for Joe Toney and just playing just as

1149
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 5: good as Joe. That tells me you got deep offensive

1150
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 5: line no matter if you lost for Landa Brown or not.

1151
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: Kree Humphreys a stud. I mean, he's pretty much gonna

1152
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 5: be the next Jason Kelsey when Jason Kelsey decides to retire.

1153
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 5: And Trace Spis has been good at right guard. Look,

1154
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 5: Jawan Taylor's had his issues this year, but he's still

1155
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 5: been solid there. Saying with Donovan Smith, look, she's got

1156
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 5: What I like. What the Chiefs have done this postseason

1157
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 5: is you guys saw this in the Bills game. They

1158
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 5: go to the players, they to go she Rice, Isaiah Pacheco,

1159
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey. It's why Andy Reid is what he is

1160
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 5: and why he's such a good head coach. And I

1161
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 5: keep telling you people in Buffalo this, look, I wouldn't

1162
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 5: be too upset. I know it's tough losing to the Chiefs,

1163
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 5: every year. But I still say Buffalo has been the

1164
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 5: closest to actually beating this team without beating them. I mean,

1165
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I know Cincinnati did it once to Joe Burrow,

1166
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 5: but look, Buffalo's right there. I mean, they really are.

1167
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 5: And they got the one guy I think that can

1168
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 5: beat Patrick Loons all playoff game.

1169
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 12: In fact, he should have already.

1170
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: And Josh Allen, yeah, and we and we watched his

1171
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: Chiefs forty nine or super Bowl barrel down the runway

1172
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 3: here towards us. What do you make of the fact

1173
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: that it seemed like the Chiefs, I mean, they kind

1174
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: of just they were a little bit clunky in the

1175
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: regular season, right offensively, they didn't they didn't have their guys.

1176
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they just didn't look like they were the

1177
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: same team. They got the three seed, not the one

1178
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: seed like they usually do. And then when the lights

1179
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: came on the playoffs, they really flipped the switch. And

1180
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey all of a sudden looks eight or nine

1181
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: years younger. Mahomes looks like he did five years ago.

1182
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: I mean, everything looks different. Do you think is that

1183
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: part of what goes into your formata for picking him

1184
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: to win this game?

1185
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's you know, playoff Mahomes. He's like the

1186
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 5: only player. I wrote this in the fifty eight you

1187
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 5: know things from the season piece. He's like the only

1188
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 5: player to improve his numbers in like touchdown percentage, interception percentage,

1189
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 5: quarterback rating, you name it, from the regular season to

1190
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

1191
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 12: It's crazy.

1192
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 5: And I'll never forget what Trump mcduffy told me in

1193
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 5: the locker room after Someday's game. It's when I mentioned

1194
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 5: to him that Raiders game when they lost the Raiders

1195
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 5: on Christmas Day. He said that was our rallying cride,

1196
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 5: like everybody counted us out but us, and because we

1197
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 5: lost to the Raiders and we lost to an improving

1198
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: Raiders team, and they just kind of buggled down after that.

1199
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 5: And I think they wanted to show people, hey, look,

1200
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 5: we can go in the Buffalo we could beat we

1201
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 5: can go in the ball where we could beat that.

1202
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 5: We're not just a team that can win in Arrowhead Stadium.

1203
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 5: And did you just find different ways to motivate themselves

1204
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 5: every single year? And I think I really do feel

1205
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 5: Patrick Malomes as the Tom Brady affected. He wants to

1206
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 5: find any every way he can to stay on top

1207
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 5: no matter what it is. And I really think their

1208
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 5: motivation this year is we want to be the first

1209
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 5: team since the two thousand and three two thousand and

1210
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 5: four Patriots to win consecutive Super Bowls because everybody says

1211
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 5: it can't be done on the sar cap era, not

1212
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 5: in free agency, there's too much party in the league.

1213
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 5: But the Chiefs are proven otherwise.

1214
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one counter argument I'll present here, Jeff, is

1215
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: it seems like Brock Purdy plays some of his best

1216
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: ball when they're behind on the scoreboard. I saw this

1217
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: number this week. Eight of the last ten possessions in

1218
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: which Brock Perdy and the forty nine Ers have been

1219
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: behind on the scoreboard, he's led the team on a

1220
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: scoring drive. Knowing that could very well be the case

1221
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: in Super Bowl fifty eight at some point here if

1222
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: we believe Mahomes is capable of doing what he's been doing,

1223
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: I wonder how far that goes for the forty nine Ers,

1224
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: how tight they can make this thing and maybe even

1225
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: pull off the upset.

1226
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, and Nani are going into the playoffs? Was

1227
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 5: what was when Brock Purty's trailing because his passer ring

1228
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: was in the sixties when he was trailing all year,

1229
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 5: and in the playoffs, he goes to the least consecutive you know,

1230
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 5: second half comebacks, and look, rock Perty. I know what

1231
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 5: people think of rock Purty outside of my own opinion,

1232
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 5: and I hear game manager, I'll believe that. Do I

1233
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 5: think he's Josh Allen, Patrick, Bohons, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. No,

1234
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 5: but it's a top ten quarterback. And I don't care

1235
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 5: who he has around. Kirk Warner had Hall of famers

1236
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 5: around him too, and he got to the Hall of Fame.

1237
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 5: So there's no reason why brock Perty can't do this.

1238
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 5: You know, he has the look he gets the ball

1239
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 5: to the guys that he needs to get the ball due.

1240
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 5: And what separates him from Jimmy Garoppolo to me is

1241
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 5: the fact that he can run outside the pocket and

1242
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 5: create plays with his legs. I think that as an

1243
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 5: underrated part of his game. I always liked his game

1244
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 5: at ioways say I got a story about rock Perty guys,

1245
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 5: So when he was drafted, I was kind of in

1246
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 5: like my own world at the time, and I'm thinking

1247
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 5: of myself just watching Day three of the draft and

1248
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 5: they announced his pick and I literally sent in the

1249
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 5: CBS slack room. Wait, brock Perty wasn't drafted yet, and

1250
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: they're like where you been. I'm like, well, I just

1251
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 5: didn't think of it like I thought he would have

1252
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 5: been drafted in the fifth round. That's why I thought

1253
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 5: when measuring brock Perty. So look, the four and niners

1254
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 5: are loaded, they're very top heavy. But what worries me

1255
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 5: about this team is the Chiefs just got the edge

1256
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 5: in the trenches with their defensive line. You know, you

1257
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 5: got guys like George Caloptis, Mike Danna, Chris Jones against

1258
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 5: foign Airs offensive line, which look, they they've been outperforming

1259
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 5: their means, especially when Trent Williams is in there. But

1260
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: outside Trem Williams and Brunell, who's kind of struggled a

1261
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 5: little bit this postseason. I got to give the edge

1262
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 5: of the Chiefs, but I don't think brock Perty is

1263
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 5: gonna be the reason why the forty nine ers.

1264
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 12: So it's a super Bowl.

1265
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: What are some of the other surprising things that happened

1266
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: during this regular season as we come down to it,

1267
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen so much happening, you know, the team,

1268
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: like we said the Washington Commanders got sold. You know,

1269
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: you've got the stuff going on. With the Philadelphia Eagles,

1270
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: they absolutely crashed and burned after getting off to what

1271
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: looked like a repeat performance of their Super Bowl trip

1272
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 3: last year. The Dallas Cowboys are the exact same Dallas Cowboys.

1273
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: They've been right, they look good, they've got some great games,

1274
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: and then they absolutely implode in the playoffs. I mean,

1275
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: what do you do? So what is there anything that

1276
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: do you think of off the top of your head

1277
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: that surprises you about how this season went.

1278
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought up the Eagles Bills game, Steve,

1279
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 5: because when I cover that game in Week twelve, the

1280
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 5: Bills are six and six. I thought they'd be fine.

1281
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: I know the Eagles would win fourteen games at that point.

1282
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 5: They just beat the Cheess and they just beat the Bills.

1283
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, there's no way this team's like gonna collapse,

1284
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 5: and I do. The Eagles were perfectionists that whole you're

1285
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 5: just being in that locker room. But I didn't think

1286
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 5: that perfectionism would actually get to them because they said

1287
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 5: they hadn't been playing their best ball yet, and yeah,

1288
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 5: they were hitting at some locker room stuff. But he

1289
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 5: never thought they would have collapsed like they did, no

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Speaker 5: matter how much they were struggling up about the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know with Joe Flagler, that was when Joe Flacla

1293
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 5: was coming off the couch. Who thought maybe the number

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Speaker 5: five seeing in the AFC uh cjx Stroud doing what

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Speaker 5: he did the whole season. Demiko Ryans Uh, you know, uh.

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Speaker 12: Puka the Kolah. I shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I should say I was not surprised by Puka and

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01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 5: the cool because I'm in thirteen fantasy leagues. I dranted

1299
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 5: him in all the Diocey leagues and every single league,

1300
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 5: and I reaped the benefits of that. So you know,

1301
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 5: I got backed myself on the back of him. But

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 5: I didn't think he'd have that type of year. I mean,

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 5: the you'll plarate all the records up, you know, Josh

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 5: Allen being Josh Allen again. Josh Allen had another fifty

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 5: touchdown season, which is kind of crazy when you think

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Speaker 5: about and then the numbers he puts up. Uh, just

1307
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 5: him Will and that team, you know, the bills of

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 5: Joe Brady again. I'm just trying to think off the

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 5: top of my how about Pete Carroll you know, Pete

1310
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 5: Carroll stepping down. I didn't think that was gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't surprised there eight head coaching are but you

1312
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 5: know how about Dannis Allen stayin as a head coach.

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Speaker 5: That was one I was really shocked about because I

1314
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 5: don't think he's a good head coach at all, and

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01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 5: somehow he stays around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I'll bounce off you, Jeff that surprised

1318
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 2: me was in the wake of the Rogers injury, that

1319
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: the Jets did not go and land another veteran quarterback.

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01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: I know they had knocked around the thought of making

1321
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: a trade, but then even with people that were on

1322
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: the couch, like a Joe Flacco who had recently been

1323
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: on their roster, how much did that stupefy you? That

1324
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: the whole reason they went after Rogers was so they

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to play Zach Wilson. Then Rogers is out

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: for the year and they play Zach Wilson.

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just what's the Einstein theory? You know

1328
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 5: in Sandy is just repeating the same thing over and

1329
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 5: over again, right, And that's what they did. And I

1330
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 5: get give Zach Wilson a month, but like you said,

1331
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco was in the building, was he was familiar

1332
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 5: with that team. They did not sign him, They did

1333
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 5: not care to sign him. They went with Zach Wilson.

1334
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 5: Then they went with Trevor Simeon and Tim Boyle, and

1335
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 5: you just kinda laughed at them, like, look, Carson Wentz

1336
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 5: can't be worse than these guys. And you know, the

1337
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 5: Rams signed he had a pretty good game of Week

1338
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 5: eighteen when he played up. You know, it must be

1339
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 5: the Sean McVay thing. But yeah, there were players available,

1340
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 5: Like why don't you just take the risk? And at

1341
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: the time, Kirk Cousins not like he was on the

1342
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 5: trade block, but maybe maybe you could try to pull

1343
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 5: something off. But I guess because they they sold their

1344
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: soul for Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, how about

1345
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 5: that beating the Bills in Week one. I never would

1346
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 5: have guessed that after Aaron Rodgers hurt.

1347
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that you're right, and it's and it's interesting too,

1348
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: And I'll get your take on this. Josh Allen. We

1349
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 3: you know, obviously he's you know, the prized cow here

1350
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: in Western New York. I mean, he's he's their MVP

1351
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: every year and and should be in the kind and

1352
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 3: is in the conversation as a finalist this year.

1353
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

1354
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: And the knock on Josh has always been he turns

1355
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: it over too much. And people here will tell you

1356
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: three words, no, he doesn't.

1357
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

1358
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: The guy leads the league intersect, leads the league in touchdowns,

1359
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 3: leads the league in yards from scrimmage, he leads the

1360
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 3: league in scoring, all that stuff. He is really the

1361
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 3: reason this team is in the conversation. No matter what

1362
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 3: the offseason looks like, where do you think this franchise

1363
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 3: lands in the coming season? Because I know two years

1364
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 3: ago they were the absolute flavor of the month. How

1365
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 3: do you see the Bills going forward? With all their

1366
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: free agency gaps, all the things, the question marks they

1367
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: have coming into the season, with the salary cap problems

1368
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 3: they have, where do you see? You know, where's the

1369
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 3: next gonna fall on this Bills team? Do you think

1370
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 3: in this offseason?

1371
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, It's funny they keep seeing the Bills windows closing.

1372
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, unless Josh Allen pops his knee out

1373
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 5: and can't get it back in, I just don't see it.

1374
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 12: You know, they still have a good.

1375
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 5: Foundation here, and look, I'm just glad not to hear

1376
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 5: a Stephan Diggs drama for the first time in like

1377
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 5: six months. So you know, they still got Josh Allen,

1378
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 5: they still got Stefan Diggs. James Cook's becoming a star.

1379
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 5: I think the Bills improved their offensive line tremendously over

1380
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 5: the last couple of years up. But yeah, you're right

1381
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 5: that the cap issues are gonna be a thing, and

1382
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 5: same with the free agents. But you know you're gonna

1383
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 5: get Matt Mulatto back, right. Look at all the injuries

1384
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 5: this team had. I think I wrote about this several

1385
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 5: times during the year, him for Davious White, all these

1386
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 5: guys on defense being injured. It's you just kind of

1387
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 5: ran out of bodies and you still have bodies able

1388
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 5: to go out there. I mean, look at what Raschaul

1389
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 5: Douglas did for them after they traded for him. It's

1390
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 5: I still think they're a well coached team. I still

1391
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 5: think they're and again, I know Sean mcdner has his faults,

1392
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 5: but I still think they're a well coached team. I

1393
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 5: still think as long as they got Josh Allen back there,

1394
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 5: and as long as they own the Miami Dolphins and

1395
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 5: continue to there's still going to be a top three

1396
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 5: team in the AFC. It's just can they get over

1397
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 5: can they get past Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid And

1398
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 5: so far no one's really been able to do it.

1399
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 5: So maybe the Bills, you know, don't get lucky one year.

1400
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 5: I mean, it does stick though, for a franchise like that,

1401
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 5: for the winning they've done. And I wrote about this

1402
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 5: this week with Jim Kelly. You know, he's one of

1403
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 5: the best quarterbacks ever won a Super Bowl and he

1404
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 5: should have one. And I so when I did that list.

1405
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 5: By the way, I did the list for CBS this week,

1406
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 5: I had to take Josh Allen off it because then

1407
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 5: they decided to want they wanted active quarterbacks next. I

1408
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 5: had josh Allen Fork on that list already. That's how

1409
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 5: good Josh Allen's been.

1410
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Jeff, thanks for the time. We appreciate it.

1411
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: To enjoy the Super Bowl next week.

1412
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, It's gonna be a fun game. I always

1413
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 5: like Super Bowl rematches, especially when it's like, you know,

1414
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 5: something recent like Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid. So I hope

1415
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 5: we get a good game. I hope Vegas is the host.

1416
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 5: Everybody thinks it's gonna be Yeah.

1417
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: Thanks again, Jeff, I appreciate it. We'll catch up with

1418
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: you down the line here this offseason. That's Jeff Kerr

1419
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: from cbssports dot com joining us cranking out content left, right,

1420
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: and center on cbssports dot com. Is latest piece is

1421
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: fifty eight things to Remember about the twenty twenty three season.

1422
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: Some good ones on there. I think we'll omit number

1423
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: thirty one, which was about Buffalo's playoff failure. So just

1424
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: skip over thirty one if you pull it up and

1425
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: start reading it. Uh, eight oh three five point fifty

1426
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty the

1427
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: number to get on board. As we are asking you today,

1428
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: what change this offseason will help the Bills defense the

1429
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: most in twenty twenty four. We've had some interesting submissions

1430
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: to this point. One person said, Matt Mulano being back

1431
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: at full health will be the biggest thing that helps

1432
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: the defense in twenty twenty four. I think that's a

1433
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 2: pretty good one. Somebody else was saying acquiring a defensive

1434
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: tackle and defensive end to raise the level of play

1435
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: up front. The level of play up front was pretty

1436
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: darn good last season. You can find two people to

1437
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: raise that level. That would be. That would be a

1438
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: high achievement.

1439
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be that would be a very surprising.

1440
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: And another person said, turning over the secondary and getting

1441
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: them younger and more athletic, and the time may have

1442
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: come for that. You know, as Jordan Poor and Micah

1443
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: Hyde said themselves after the playoff loss to the Chiefs,

1444
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: you know, been teammates for seven years here in Buffalo.

1445
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: And then Sean McDermott, I think, or one of the

1446
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: other players after those two guys spoke said, I can't

1447
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: remember a time where two safeties got to play together

1448
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: on the same team for seven years in the free

1449
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 2: agency era of NFL football. It's very, very very rare.

1450
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: And even at the end it looked like it wasn't

1451
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 3: gonna happen, and then they got that last year in together.

1452
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 3: It's they who knows why, and who knows if you

1453
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 3: can repeat it. Certainly Sean McDermott knows what he's looking at.

1454
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 3: He's gonna he was the defensive coordinator this year, he'll

1455
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: be able to look at all those safeties. And you

1456
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 3: went down the list, bra there's like thirty five guys

1457
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: available in free agency at that A good and yeah,

1458
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: and so Sean mcdermot's going to go down that list

1459
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: and say yeah, yeah, and they'll call all those They'll

1460
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: all be called. Some of them are going to be

1461
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 3: too pricey, no question about it, but not all of them.

1462
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 3: And so they're gonna and if Sean McDermott can get

1463
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 3: the guys he likes and the guys he wants, you

1464
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 3: can bet that they perhaps they won't take a step back,

1465
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: maybe they'll shift gears.

1466
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. But when we come back,

1467
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls as we talk to you

1468
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 2: about the change this offseason that you think helps the

1469
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: Bills the defense the most. Eighth three five point fifty one,

1470
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: eighty and eighty five fifty two, five point fifty your

1471
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: phone calls next when we return here on One Bill's Live.

1472
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, all right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1473
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We're asking you what

1474
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: change this offseason will help the Bills defense the most

1475
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: come the twenty twenty four season in the fall. So

1476
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: back to the phones we go, and to Jim in Lockport.

1477
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: What he got first? Jim, Jim, are you there. I'm

1478
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: gonna put Jim on hold and we'll see if Jim

1479
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: can locate the receiver. Oh, you never know. Sometimes it

1480
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: gets tricked.

1481
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 3: Out on highway. He's like, he's got a day going on.

1482
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: Jeff Kerr just on from CBS Sports. Got a lot

1483
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: of stuff going on, and it's neat to go down

1484
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 3: that list he wrote the fifty eight or whatever it

1485
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 3: was most talked about things or the most memorable things

1486
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 3: about the season. And it's a nice reminder of all

1487
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 3: the stuff that went on. What a season it was.

1488
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: And you know, you think about the Bills having like

1489
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: what was it like if you count the four thirty games,

1490
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 3: had like nine games on primetime. Everybody wanted to watch

1491
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 3: this team. They set a record for viewership for a

1492
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 3: Divisional round playoff game with the Chiefs when it peaked

1493
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 3: at fifty six million viewers. A lot of stuff going on.

1494
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 3: What a what a season it was, you know, and

1495
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 3: it's you get to this point of the season. The

1496
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 3: Bills are out of it. They got to watch the

1497
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: Super Bowl from home. It's a pain, it's no fun,

1498
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: but I still we go around and round. We've had

1499
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: a bunch of callers call in this week about how

1500
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,879
Speaker 3: they're handling the loss. What's going on, what's going forward?

1501
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: And I just the bothersome part about it is you

1502
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: realize when you look at it from every angle, and

1503
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,919
Speaker 3: even if you're looking at it as a dispassionate observer,

1504
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 3: the Bills are right there with the all of these

1505
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: teams that are still in it. They're as good at it,

1506
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: as good as, if not better. Yea, And you see

1507
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: all these teams. The Detroit Lions gonna win that game.

1508
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 3: And a ball goes blinking off the guy's helmet on

1509
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 3: a bomb and bounces into the guy's hands. That's a

1510
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill loss right there. Right that's a fourth and

1511
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: eighteen against the Minnesota Vikings where the DB's gonna intercept

1512
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 3: it and ends up helping the receiver catch it. It's losing.

1513
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: It's like fumbling a quarterback sneak for the win and

1514
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 3: giving up the loss. It's like a miracle in the meadowlands.

1515
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 4: We had.

1516
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: All that stuff happened to us. That's how good this

1517
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 3: team is. It's been three years in the regular seasons

1518
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: since they lost the game by double digits. I mean,

1519
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 3: you can't tell me there's a team that is in

1520
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form, tangibly or better on paper

1521
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 3: or even to the naked eye the bills, and you

1522
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: get to these games and it's like one of these plays.

1523
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 3: It almost happened in Kansas City this year when Travis

1524
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: Kelce throws that thing across the field and the Chiefs.

1525
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 3: That's how the Chiefs lose. They helped us, and that's

1526
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: how the Chiefs beat us. We help them go. And

1527
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: we're not in Vegas, so we should be doingers are

1528
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:21,879
Speaker 3: in Vegas.

1529
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: Probably, Let's try the phones one more time. Let's see

1530
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: if Jim in Lockford is there. Jim, are you there?

1531
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm here?

1532
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you got for us?

1533
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 13: I did him. I wanted to get your theory about

1534
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 13: Travis Kelsey and all the talk about how he's getting

1535
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 13: too old and he can't catch the ball anymore, and

1536
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 13: then all of a sudden, now he's got a big resurgence.

1537
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 13: I have my own theory on it. I wanted to

1538
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 13: get yours as well.

1539
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 3: What's yours?

1540
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 13: And my theory is, once you start dating, you catch everything.

1541
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, whereas it ridge?

1542
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: We ever a rim shot out there at little sound effect?

1543
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Uh.

1544
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: I thought he was pacing himself through the regular season.

1545
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: He knows he's not a spring chicken anymore. He's thirty

1546
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: three years old. And I kind of felt like, and

1547
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: Steve mentioned this earlier in the show, he felt like

1548
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: the whole Chiefs team was kind of going through the

1549
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: motions in the regular season. And I remember talking about

1550
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: that a couple of years ago. You remember, they weren't

1551
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 2: winning an impressive fashion, but they were just finding a

1552
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: way to eke out games, and you know, it's like

1553
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: they were playing with their food for half the season. Now,

1554
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: this year, I think was a little different. I think

1555
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: they didn't have a you know, they didn't have all

1556
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: the horses like they used to, and still they were

1557
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: kind of muddling their way through the season, and then

1558
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs come and they turn it up a notch.

1559
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, this this season during the regular season

1560
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: felt a little different for the Chiefs. It felt a

1561
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 3: little bit more. There's a little bit more consternation when

1562
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 3: they weren't winning enough, particularly when they weren't scoring enough.

1563
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 3: This is you know, you see this this play we're

1564
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: looking at with the Baltimore when Mahomes is running like

1565
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: around in the backfield, running in circles, doing all kinds

1566
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 3: of stuff. And he flips it out and Kelsey lays out,

1567
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 3: catches it behind him after the ball has already passed him.

1568
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 3: You know, he catches it on the ground for the

1569
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: first down, and this kind of stuff. They weren't getting

1570
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 3: it done in the regular season like this, And you know,

1571
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: I think back and you try and find reasons why

1572
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: teams look bad in the regular season. Then turn it

1573
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: on and they get hot. Usually it's a team from nowhere.

1574
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 3: It's usually not the you know, the odds on favorite

1575
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: defending Super Bowl champions who who look, you know, lost

1576
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: a little bit offensively in the regular season. Usually those

1577
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 3: teams have Usually it's the other way. It's like that Eagles.

1578
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 3: They come out like a house on fire, building on

1579
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 3: what they did at the end of the last season,

1580
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 3: and then flame out at the end. The Chiefs they

1581
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 3: show up like they are hungover, spend a few months

1582
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 3: getting snapping out of it, and then turn it on

1583
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 3: for the playoffs. And that's hard to do. And I

1584
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 3: know that as a guy like Kelsey, who's thirty four,

1585
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 3: right thirty three, you get to that age and I

1586
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 3: remember being a guy in my mid thirties after having

1587
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 3: a long career, and there are certain times in the season,

1588
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: certain games, certain situations where you just don't have the

1589
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 3: energy to expand it or the interest in expending it

1590
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: because you just don't see it. It's not worth it, right,

1591
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: And that strikes me as where Travis Kelsey is at

1592
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 3: times during the regular season. I certainly not in the postseason,

1593
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: and I in my late in my career, we didn't

1594
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 3: get to the postseason right the last couple of years

1595
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 3: of my career, So you know, I don't know what

1596
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 3: it was like if I could have turned it on again,

1597
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: But that to me is a sign that you know,

1598
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: the guy is in his thirties. It's a real sign

1599
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 3: like that he's got some stuff to get, no question.

1600
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: And I remember, I've said this a ton too over

1601
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 3: the years. It's easy for these players to buck up

1602
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 3: and play hard for three hours and give it everything

1603
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 3: on a Sunday afternoon. The difficult part when you get

1604
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 3: into your thirties and the mid thirties is preparing to

1605
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 3: play well. It's hard. He's got you know, and I

1606
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: and I know that we make you know. They guys

1607
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 3: don't don't tackle. They all you know, there's walk through,

1608
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 3: there's only one padded practice a week and then none.

1609
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: But it's hard because you push yourself to play well,

1610
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: you push yourself to prepare to play well, and man,

1611
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 3: it is just the older you get. It is hard

1612
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 3: to do it. It is hard to do and that

1613
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 3: you see something. These are kind of the signs you

1614
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: see of it. Right. So I'm not saying Travis Kelsey's gonna,

1615
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, hit a brick wall here sometime between now

1616
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 3: and Super Bowl Sunday, not at all, but oh he's

1617
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 3: got a bye week. It, Yeah, it's gonna be this,

1618
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be continue to be more the same, because

1619
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's just this human nature and the

1620
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 3: way it is for a pro football player coming down

1621
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 3: the stretch of his career.

1622
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: What changed this offseason do you think will help the

1623
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: Bills defense the most? In twenty twenty four, Jeremy on

1624
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet says, just getting healthy. Emotional health was

1625
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 2: challenged last season, and this season we were physically decimated.

1626
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 2: Just hope that getting healthy in some d line editions

1627
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,839
Speaker 2: via one year contracts will give us one more season

1628
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: to fix the cap and get it. In twenty twenty five,

1629
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 2: Nate on the tweet Sheet says the defense was great.

1630
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 2: I thought coach Sean did a fantastic job. I wouldn't

1631
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,480
Speaker 2: change a thing except replace whoever is leaving slash retiring.

1632
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 2: So well, that could be a pretty sizable number. I mean,

1633
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: as we said earlier, you got eighty or twelve defensive

1634
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: linemen or free agents. Micah Hides contracts up, Cam Lewis's

1635
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: contract is up. You got a number of players, Tyrel

1636
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: Dotson contract is up. You got a number of players

1637
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: who are not under contract. He had twenty two unrestricted

1638
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: free agents. So a lot of holes to Phil.

1639
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: You could do just what you said Tom Ross, just

1640
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: replaced guys. But that's gonna look like a completely new defense,

1641
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 3: and I mean a really completely new defense.

1642
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: Especially up front.

1643
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's it'll be. It'll be something to see.

1644
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 3: I I don't think there's any question they're gonna have.

1645
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 3: There's gonna be guys out there that are gonna be worthy,

1646
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 3: and the Bills are gonna get them to and the

1647
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: Buffalo is gonna be and in the midst of it again,

1648
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: and players are gonna want to be here because they're

1649
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 3: gonna be They're gonna play with Josh, They're gonna get

1650
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 3: out there, They're gonna know they're gonna be on primetime games,

1651
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get a chance to go to the

1652
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: playoffs and and win the thing that's gonna be out there. Still,

1653
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 3: the players are gonna believe that. So you're gonna have

1654
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 3: a chance that some of these guys that who otherwise

1655
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 3: would have said, I don't want to play in Buffalo,

1656
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: but they do these days. So that's on your side.

1657
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 3: And so I think Brandon Bean and Sean Mcgnermert are

1658
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: gonna be able to cobble together a roster that's actually

1659
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 3: gonna come out and look pretty good and then play

1660
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: better as they come down the stretch. I yeah, I'm

1661
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm optimistic as to the possibility of these guys, you know,

1662
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 3: putting it back together and having another defensive year. That's

1663
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 3: that's worth remembering.

1664
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: Garvey on the tweet, she says bringing back a healthy

1665
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 2: roster with an infusion of youth from the draft and

1666
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: coaching staff. Bobby Babbage ascending to defensive coordinator is kind

1667
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: of an infusion of youth in a more responsible position.

1668
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: So I guess that that's the infusion of youth on

1669
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: the coaching staff. There is still a defensive line coach

1670
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: position open, so we'll have to see how that is filled,

1671
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: and a linebackers coach position that is now opened by

1672
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: virtue of Babbage's promotion. So if there is an infusion

1673
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: of youth there, I guess that would apply to what

1674
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 2: Nate's describing on the coaching side of things.

1675
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: It will be interesting, Garvy sorry to see if they

1676
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 3: you know, promote from within start, you know, and just

1677
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: move guys up the ladder and bring in guys at

1678
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 3: the bottom of the pyramid rather than you know, infusing

1679
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 3: a guy halfway up, you know, into the line back

1680
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:05,879
Speaker 3: full assistant job. That'll be interesting. I think Bobby Babbage

1681
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: is a very intriguing candidate for this job, and it'll

1682
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 3: be interesting to see because he's never done it to

1683
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: my knowledge, right, has he ever done it? Been a coordinator?

1684
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 5: No?

1685
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, you're not at this level. That's

1686
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: I'll have to check his college career.

1687
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 3: That's big. That's big. Joe Brady with a full off

1688
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 3: season and some and some at least up front and

1689
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: the tight end and for the bulk of his offense

1690
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 3: that he's going to be coordinating, he's going to have

1691
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 3: some stability and some continuity. Going forward, he's only got

1692
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 3: to plug in one or two players into the starting rotation.

1693
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 3: At least it looks like from here, unless the injuries

1694
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 3: happened in training camp and all that. I think it's

1695
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 3: a really intriguing set of coordinators. You've got.

1696
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: Very young, Yeah, never been a defensive coordinator at any

1697
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 2: point in his coaching career.

1698
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's he's forty. It's time, Yeah, and he's ready.

1699
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 3: I think he's ready for it. That you talk to

1700
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 3: the people in the building, They they're really excited to

1701
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 3: get him. Hold up, yeah, retain him.

1702
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gotta take a break here when we come back.

1703
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweets sheet. Here on one

1704
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1705
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: First Things First, Steve I stand corrected. Travis Kelsey turned

1706
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: thirty four in October, so he began the season as

1707
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 2: a thirty three year old, but he is entering the

1708
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl as a thirty four year old, and he'll

1709
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: turn thirty five obviously next October. I know he said

1710
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: he intends to play in twenty twenty four, but we'll see.

1711
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: If he wins his third Super Bowl, he may just

1712
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: right off into the sunset. That'll be interesting.

1713
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 3: Who knows well, they're not gonna cut him. No, if

1714
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: he wants to play, he's gonna get whatever a dozen

1715
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: or two million dollars he's got coming to him. That's

1716
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 3: hard to walk away from, even if you don't want

1717
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 3: to play.

1718
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 2: Exactly what changed this offseason will help the Bills defense

1719
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 2: the most in twenty twenty four. Some final thoughts on

1720
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet there. George says, a healthy von Miller

1721
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: if that's even possible. Drew says, figure out a way

1722
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: to be more healthy at season's end and get von

1723
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 2: Miller back to expected performance. Sean McDermott did address that

1724
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: directly in his season rapid press conference. He said, we've

1725
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: got to find out why the last two off the

1726
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: last two postseasons, we've been so injury riddled, because it

1727
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: was an issue in twenty twenty two and it was

1728
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: an issue this past season. So got to get their

1729
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: sports science people on that and figure out if there's

1730
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: a way around that to avoid that. Because twenty twenty

1731
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 2: one they were hitting on all cylinders and healthy and

1732
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and that just was not

1733
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: the cast the last two years.

1734
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 3: It's hard because it is unpredictable. And I've said this before.

1735
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 3: Eddie Abramowski, the Hall of Fame trainer for the Buffalo

1736
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: Bills for decades. He was a brilliant diagnostician. He knew

1737
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 3: what was going to happen, how was going to take

1738
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 3: you to get back just when you told him your symptoms.

1739
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 3: But he also said this. He goes, You'll go like,

1740
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 3: is it's weird in the NFL. You'll go four years

1741
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 3: and never see a turf toe, and then you'll get

1742
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: six of them in training camp. He goes, that's the

1743
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 3: way it works. He goes, something happens where your team

1744
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 3: just does that. He's seen a year after year after

1745
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 3: year with different injuries from different things. He gets nine

1746
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 3: broken fingers in a four week period, that kind of stuff.

1747
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 3: He says, it's the weirdest thing. But it all comes

1748
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 3: back to the mean. It all comes back to the mean.

1749
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Let's hope it does, because that's your mean. They're healthier

1750
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: come next year in the playoffs. That's it for us today.

1751
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow at one as we talk a

1752
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 2: little more super Bowl and of course more Bills. We'll

1753
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: see you that