WEBVTT - Nic Cage and Patricia Arquette: The Love Quest 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.760 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.960 Elizabeth Dunton, Zaron Burnett. I have a question for you. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.080 You know that's funny. I have a question for you, 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.240 A question for me. Can I tell you what's ridiculous? 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.639 That's ridiculous? I Elizabeth, what's ridiculous? 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.160 Let me tell you? Okay, So you like the Star Wars? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.000 I do have the War and the Stars? 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.040 Yes you like that? 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.880 Yes, ghetto the who's your favorite Star Wars character? 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.760 Let me think about that for a second. I'm gonna 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.600 go with yours, Chewbacca. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.880 Oh that is my favorite? Going to say Lando cal Worthington, 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.320 I Loveca. I know, So, Dave, who's your favorite Star 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:48.440 Wars character? 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.880 I'm gonna go bib for Tuna. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.760 Okay, Okay, that that's someone in the band. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.320 He's one of those people that has like the part 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.520 of his body, the fleshy part that like wraps. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.680 All the way around like a growth right his head. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.960 Yeah. A friend of mine did like a fake. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.679 It was like I think either Jack Ruby or or 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.560 Lee Harvey Oswell being assassinated and they put him in 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.600 with like a really shocked expression, and so he became 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:17.160 my favorite. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.040 That would now it's my favorite. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:20.920 There you go. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.120 I love a good lee Harvey Oswald, you do. So 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.920 did you guys? Did you guys like Darth Vader? 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.280 Oh? Actually, yes, probably is my favorite character. You're quite honest. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.720 Yeah right, I mean, let's let's face I love villains. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.280 So the other part of this is that in our 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.000 on our website Ridiculous crime dot com, we have a 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.600 listener survey and we ask people to tell us what 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.400 their favorite hot sauce. This is true and so favorite 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:50.560 sauce Zaren. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.760 Zaren Yes, Zaren hot sauce. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.639 Spicy Zaren Dave favorite hot sauce. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.320 I'll say reds are a E ed or two d's, 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.640 I'm not sure, but you can get it at metunic 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.720 Oyster bar u intunic Rhode Island, among other places. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.600 Oh okay, he's mentioned this before. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.240 I thanks for asking. I like tiger sauce. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.480 What's yours? 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:20.720 Tiger sauce? Or that chili crisp Aniwho? So you take 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.520 your Darth Vader? Yeah, and you add your hot sauce 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.960 and truffles. Do you guys like truffles of the kind 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:28.560 from the Earth? 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.280 No? 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.920 I hate it, I hate it, hate it. So you 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.919 take those three things, and you know what you get? 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.480 Star Wars Dark Side Hot Sauce by Truf h really yeah. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.600 You know who you can blame for this, Joanne Oh 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.560 from Instagram. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.639 Oh. I won't blame her personally, did she? 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.760 She seems like a total sweetheart, like a really cool 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:56.239 rude dude totally. But she's the one who passed this personally. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.120 And the interns came to me with devilish looks in 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:04.640 their eyes. It's a dark Side Hot Sauce by Trough 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.400 combines fiery ghost peppers with the richness of black winter 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.960 truffles in a mix so alluring that it sure to 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.520 attempt you to the dark side. It runs anywhere from 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.519 eight hundred thousand to a million scovilles. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:18.600 Uh huh. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.920 It's vegan and it's gluten free, so thank god. Okay, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.320 I mean I prefer extra gluten in everything that I consume, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:26.680 and I. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.400 Want bacon, grease and everything I consume. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.200 It's as tribute to Darth Vader's story and legacy is 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:36.480 embodied in a luxurious collectible gift box. Intricate details pay 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.920 homage to the ominous allure of the Sith Lord, with 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.080 the Imperial crest boldly emerging from the depths of a 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.880 smoky veil housed inside Star Wars Dark Side Hot Sauce 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.480 is bottled in a sleek matte black bottle crowned with 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.400 a cap inspired by the unmistakable helmet of Darth Vader. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.880 I prefer job of the Hut barbecue sauce. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:01.640 Where love's the guy in Spaceball's dark helmet. That's what 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.560 I always see when I see these things. So you 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.760 can add a dark twist. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:05.160 One. 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.720 Level up your spicy chicken. Two, marinate fire grilled meats. Three, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.000 infuse your juacamole with heat. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.720 Four take over the galaxy with the power of the store. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.280 Burn a hole in your underpant. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.880 See you anyway I would use if I were them, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.800 I would say, peel a cap, you know, like it's 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.040 Darth Vader's cap. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.400 And you got the double entendre. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.839 Oh there it is? Yeah, that is good. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.920 Can I tell you something that I don't love? 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.599 What don't you love? Elizabeth? 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.560 On this there's a section on the website that says 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:39.400 spill the Tea, and it's their faqswh tea. You know, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.719 we need to get rid of spill the Tea because 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.599 it's generally misused The one that has misused the most 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.360 is to throw shade. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.000 Can Can brands just stop trying to use the type 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.320 of slang and just go back to hokey language. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.159 It's not just saying something insultan. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:55.120 Yeah, I know, I'm with you. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.120 Yes, if there's a whole thing investigated, everybody, and then 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:04.000 stop saying it. Yes, Okay, So yeah, that's that's ridiculous. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.560 Okay, back of a dead drop, Elizabeth. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.680 Oh my god, I just ripped myself in half. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.000 You know it's also ridiculous. No, I knew you didn't. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:15.960 That's why I'm here. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.159 I don't know nothing. 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.280 I have a sequel to a Ridiculous Crime story I 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.720 like that starring Nicholas Cage and Patricia Arquette. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.240 Get out of here now, I will not you. You 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:29.200 get right on out. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:56.520 This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.200 and cons. It's ahlways ninety nine percent murder free a 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.599 and one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:08.320 Spicy Oh Elizabeth Zaren Oh Zaren Dutton. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.880 Elizabeth Burnette. This story is a sequel, as I just 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.839 told you a squeal. Yes, but it's a sequel to 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.520 my Bob's Big Boy story. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.440 Whoa, this is immediate quick right, boom. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.000 Working fast in Hollywood to hold the audience. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:23.800 I like that. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:24.160 Well. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.920 I read about this one after I told you that one, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.960 and boom, I knew I had to tell you this 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.760 one too. So here we go Bob's Big Boy too. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.600 Boom me all right, Elizabeth, Today I want to tell 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.640 you a story about Bob's Big Boy. One of my 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.159 favorite people on the planet, Nicholas Cage. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:40.560 I thought it was the second. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.400 No, he's no longer on the planet. In the planet, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:49.560 I guess that's true, Nicholas Cage. Yes, one of my 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.800 favorite people on the planet. Also one of my other 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.520 favorite people on the planet, Patricia Arquette. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.320 Oh, I had no idea that these are some of 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:56.800 your face. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.080 I know why I love like weirdos. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:06:59.960 Oh yeah, that's true. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.360 Right, they're both great weirdos, like honest earnest wardos. Not 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.880 precious people. You performative, totally just weird of their cores. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.200 Yeah, I can't stand performative weirdo. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.040 From the jump, I think I'm. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:12.800 A little bit of a weirdo. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.240 You are a weirdo, thank god. So do you like 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.000 them both? Do you have any sure you don't have 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.360 a strong opinions. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.280 I'm not like you. I don't have a shrine in 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:22.800 my home to these people. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.200 I gotta do something with all those candles. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:26.280 I know it's a fire hazard. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.080 What's your favorite partia or cat movie? 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:30.720 Why do you do this? 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.160 Mine's obviously true romance. Every time I've mentioned this before, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:34.960 every time. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:39.200 You ask me these questions, yea, my mind blans like I've. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.520 Never watched Who's Patrician? 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.280 Okay, I'll tell you. My favorite of her performances was 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.040 when she played the Lady of the Night on Law 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.200 and Order SVU. Oh yes, And I have to make 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:50.880 a confession. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.040 You watch television. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:58.720 I watch so much television, Like I watch so much 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.600 television subsceed and I've to lie on you. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.080 You really come and clean to I really am. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.800 And it's I was going to do this as of 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.640 what's ridiculous, but I've chickened out. But right now I 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.640 feel like I'm I'm in a safe place. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.640 You are lower the lights. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.560 So much television. It is disgusting. I watch a lot. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.600 Is there anything else you want to tell us? I 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:24.480 mean this is blowing. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.360 Yeah, no, I really this was really cleansing and I'm 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.840 feeling a lot better. But yeah, Patricia Arquette is the 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:31.880 hooker on SVU. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.760 Are you really no? Are you really a brunette? 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.319 I'm My ethnicity is Californian. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.880 Okay, I know, so I'm just checking. Yeah, wow, you 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.120 watch TV. I have so much to talk to you about. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:45.559 I know you know. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.720 Okay. Well, Patricia Arquette a performance I love. I'll just 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.600 give you an example. Flirting with Disaster. Do you remember 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.920 this movie? You've seen this movie? Do you watch movies? 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.280 I do. I watch it. I watch every I don't 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.840 watch TikTok or YouTube, but I watch. I love television. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.520 I have cable television, oh my godness, and the streams. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.280 Where are you? You're a wire plugger? I am not 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:08.120 a wire cutter. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.480 I am plugged into absolutely every outlet in my home. Yeah. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.520 Well, the movie Flirting with Disaster, if you are familiar 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.600 with it, I'll just give you a brief rundown for 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.800 producer Dave in case he doesn't know it. Ben Stiller 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.040 and his wife Patricia Arquette. Right, they go on this 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:29.480 cross country quest to find his birth parents. Now he's adopted, obviously, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.079 so his adoptive parents are Mary Tyler Moore and George Sigall. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.680 Oh that's an interesting, interesting pair, right. I love Mary 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.360 Tyler Moore and I love George Sagall too. His birth 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.840 parents are Lily Tomlin and Alan Alda. No, right, it's semest. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.319 And then they're like they play these off the grid 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.080 like former hippies who are still making acid, like in 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:48.640 New Mexico. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah right. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.000 And Richard Jenkins if you remember him, he's in it. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.040 He's an actor who's great and in anything. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.079 Rhode Islander, total shout out. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.480 He plays an ATF agent and at some point he 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.319 does acid. So Richard Jenkins on acid, that's just amazing. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.679 And then Josh Brolin is his partner. I mean, you're 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.440 just like, what, And so I don't want to ruin it, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.240 but it's this amazing film. No one seems to talk 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.880 about it, so there you go talking. I'm talking about 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.640 it all the time. Patricia ar Kut's in it, so 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.600 she's the moral center of that movie. And anyway, whatever, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.480 go check out out if you like. Yeah, if you 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.760 like movies, you like to laugh. Yeah, And of course 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.240 I'd be remiss if I didn't at least just reasily 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.920 touch upon a couple of Nicholas Cage performances, right, I mean, here, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.080 I'll list a couple to jump start your memory. You 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.679 tell me what your favorite Nicholas Cage performance is, m 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.640 or No, let's go with your third favorite. Okay, okay, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.640 Raising Arizona, Yeah, hi, mcdona, Moonstruck he plays Ronnie the 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.400 one handed baker. Peggy Sue got married, he plays the 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.719 teen honeymoon in Las Vegas. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.479 The Rock Oh yeah, con Air yep. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.960 Face sauce of Yeah, National Treasure one and two. Yes, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.560 I mean I could keep going on. We have so 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.080 much time. But what's your third favorite Nicholas Cage movie performance? 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.200 The one where he plays himself with Pedro Pascal. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.000 Wow, that's actually the answer. I was going to tell 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.280 you there was a trick question, Elizabeth. The correct answer 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.600 is The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, the new one 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.520 with Pedro Pascal where he plays Nick Cage. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.200 That's a great movie. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.760 I mean, he is the perfect casting for Nick Cage. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:17.679 Yeah, he really is. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.600 So as soon as you hear the words Nick Cage 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.560 immediately began to imagine this outsize performance in a movie, right, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.160 I mean, he's just pretty much known for that. But 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.480 can we talk about his outsize performance in life? Sure? 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:28.880 Oh yeah, he's had issues. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.760 Yeah, no dog is that. But I mean he is 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.640 full tilt Nick Cage all the time. He's just going, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.520 but not like a bonk bonk click where it's like, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.679 you know Gary Busey, Yeah, Gary Busey, Christpin Gover. They 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.760 make you a little nervous to be riding shotgun in 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.600 the car with him or Nick Cage. I'm like, nothing's 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:44.720 going to happen. I'm a Nick Cage. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.240 There's no governor on him. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.440 Yes, exactly so in an interview, and this is very recent, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.679 he spoke with GQ in twenty twenty two. They did 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.720 a feature on him and he spoke with the writer 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.200 at Gabriella Payea, great writer, and she went to his 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.640 place in Las Vegae and she got this quote. This 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.720 is up towards the top. It's like basically the lead 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.640 and Nicholas and I quote Nicholas Cage greets me at 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.560 his door wearing a kung fu suit. This is my 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.800 wing chung kung Fu suit, he explains, waving me in 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.440 and handing me a mug of coffee. I studied with 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.840 my seafoo Jim Law when I was twelve years old 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.040 because I was a big Bruce Lee fan, So it's 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.120 like my uniform to relax in. At the time, he 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.000 was fifty eight years old, Elizabeth just living his best 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.880 life in his like you know, ghee, hanging out drinking coffee. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.000 All right, So Nicholas Cage, do you know, as he's 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.800 pointed out, he does some bonkers things, right, Like he 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.800 has bought not one, but two castles in Europe. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.839 Yeah, doesn't he have a dinosaur? 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:43.120 Yeah? 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.959 Oh yeah, totally, also has the most haunted house in America. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.240 It's like, in quotes, the most haunted house in America. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:48.800 Really. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.160 He also once owned a Lamborghini that belonged to the 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.040 Shah of Iran. He also bought a two headed snake. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.959 Oh no, he dreamed about the snake. Yes, sorry, he 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.800 dreamed about a two headed eagle, so I guess he 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.720 was dreaming about the flag of Albania. Anyway, he wakes 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.920 up someone calls him offering him to sell him a 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.760 two headed snake. He's like, this is a something. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.120 All day long, his phone rings with people offering to 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:12.319 sell him an oddity. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:12.920 Totally. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:14.760 He has a dedicated phone. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.920 Like he buys the snake for eighty grande. He then 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.760 later donates it to the Audubon Zoo. Why did he 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.160 give it to the zoo because he found feeding the 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.080 snakes to be a bit depressing, Because, you see, Elizabeth, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.480 he had to shove a spatula between the snake's two 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.120 heads so they wouldn't fight over the food to feed 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.120 the same body. It was a lot for him to hand. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.280 It was just like anyway. He also had a pair 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.719 of albino cobras. They were like acting teachers to him 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.880 that they inspired his performance in ghost Rider. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:44.480 Stop. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.720 I swear to god. He said that, Elizabeth, how amazing 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.360 would it be to hang out with Nicholas Cage just 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.199 for like a weekend? 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.120 I was super amazing. See how far apart I'm holding 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:52.560 my arm. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.120 I can't see them. They're so far apart. So about 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.120 our story of the day. Do you remember when Nicholas 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.720 Cage and Patricia Arquette were one married? 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:01.360 Vaguely? 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.360 Yeah? Yeah, it lasted not long. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:03.920 Yeah. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.880 While they were married, do you know they lived in 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.480 a mansion in bel Air built in nineteen forty five. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.040 That makes sense, but not just any mansion, as Nicholas 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.560 Cage put it. At the time, and I quote it 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.840 was Dean Martin's house, and I like to imagine the 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.760 parties that probably went on there with Dino Sinatra and 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.240 the rat Pack, you know at the bar. Oh boy, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.640 can you imagine the parties that that house has seen. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.680 First you have the rat Pack, then you have Nicholas Cage. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.880 If those I'm telling you right. 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.280 So anyway, uptop, I was speaking of Ben Stiller going 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.840 on a quest in that movie Flirting with Disaster, which 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.440 again you should watch, and I said that movie also 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.480 stars Patricia arqutt Yeah, right, so pulling that all together, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.640 going on a quest Patricia Arquette. Have you ever heard 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.920 of the story about Nicholas Cage and Patricia Arqutte how 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.280 they got married. No, okay, it's truly a beautiful love story, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.600 and it's so fitting for both of them, right, Nick 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.400 Cage and Purtrisi Arquette, because long story short, she sent 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:55.360 him on a quest. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.680 I love that. I don't even know what it is, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.640 but I love it. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.800 Back up, but let's do this more like a movie. Okay, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.240 let's start with their meat cute. It was the late 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.360 eighties Elizabeth nineteen eighty seven to be exact, at the time, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.120 Patricia Arquette was nineteen years old, Nicholas Cage was twenty 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.080 three years old. She was at Canters in West Hollywood. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.720 That's the Jewish deli on Fairfax Love that. She's yeah, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:18.880 great place, right, She's in there working on a corn 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:19.840 beef sandwich. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.680 Or whatever, putting their going to town. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.960 Yeah, seriously, going get me another one of those pickles 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.560 they have, all right, and uh boom in walks Nicholas 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.720 Cage and Crisp and Glover, who you're a man, they're 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.000 best friends. Imagine the two of them just rolling around 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.560 you many. Yeah, so they're friends and they now can 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.720 you imagine hanging out with them in nineteen eighty seven? Anyway, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.640 they two friends. They walk into Canters, they see Patricia Arquette, 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.920 They go over, they sit with her. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.960 I would have been very young. Yes, you had a 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:53.000 lot of drugs, you know, youngest speed freak. Anyway, go ahead, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.320 So they go over. 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.760 And they talk with her, and then she invites them 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.600 to sit down, or they invite themselves, I don't know. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.720 They sit with her, they start learning to start having fun. Eventually, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.200 Crispin Glover he tells her, I want to marry you, right, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.760 and she's like, oh, that's cute, right, and then Hero, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.280 I'll just let Patricia Arquette put it. She says, I 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.800 met him and Crispin Glover in a restaurant and Christmas said, 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.600 I'm gonna marry you and Nick said, no, I'm gonna 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:23.240 marry you. Now it's a competition, right, So naturally she's like, okay, yeah, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.520 that's not happening. But Nicholas Cage was like, and I quote, 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.040 I will prove I am worthy of your love. So 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.400 back to Patricia Arkette's version of the story, he said 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.680 give me a quest. I thought he was joking, Elizabeth. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.360 Nicholas Cage was not joking. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.320 Now when he says give me a quest, that man 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.000 means business. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.920 Oh yeah, Nicholas Cage is never joking, especially about love. No, 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.280 So back to Patty Arquette, and Nick said, give me 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.440 a list of ten things, like a quest, and I'll 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.640 get all these things and then you'll marry me. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.560 Okay, love this. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.640 I figure what your reaction to a man saying. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.760 Give me a question a quest, And then she's like, 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.480 I'll consider it. Yeah, Well, Patricia, she gets to decide 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:03.640 the quest totally. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.000 So she back to her She picks up the story. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:08.920 So I wrote, all these things that I thought were 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:14.240 impossible to get, getting JD. Salinger's autograph, a Hill Tribe 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:19.320 wedding costume, steal me a Bob's Big Boy statue, like 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.199 all of these things. I was laughing, A black orchid, 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.440 all of these things off the top of her. Yeah, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.600 just comes up with a list of them possible at 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:28.520 the Canners DELI. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:29.520 Oh god. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.679 So she also she says, you wanted a caddy size 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.959 piece of fiberglass sculpture. It's a quote. Yeah, yeah, now 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.480 that the the Hill Tribe wedding costume. I kind of 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.680 skipped past that. That was a very specific request. Patricia 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.679 Rick had later clarified that she wanted a quote wedding 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.920 dress from the Lesu tribe in Southeast Asia. So that's 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.080 what she told him. So we don't know the full 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.119 list of all ten items, but what we do know 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.800 that was included was this one a wedding dress from 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.760 the Lisu tribe in Southeast Asia. Two a caddy size 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:04.600 peace fiberglass sculpture. Three getting a JD. Salinger autograph. Four 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.720 steal me a Bob's Big Boy statue. Five a black orchid. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.320 So that's basically half the list, the original list. It's 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.399 been lost in time. It was publishing something that's no 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.560 longer available online. So I gathered all the people who 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.600 quoted from this, and this is all we have, right. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.880 So Patricia Arquette, she recalls and I quote. I gave 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:23.399 him a list of all these things to fined, and 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.000 he started doing them. Now, from what I found, I'm 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:27.800 not sure the order of the items he brought her. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.480 Some stories reported one item came in first. Other stories 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.840 would change the order. My favorite version goes though Nicholas 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.080 Cage showed up at Patricia Arquette's house with the first item, JD. 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:38.200 Salinger's autograph. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.440 I feel like that would probably be the easiest. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.359 To really why, Oh you're so smart, I'm not gonna 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.080 go and yeah, I'm over here right. She considered this 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.560 I impossible to retrieve object because as you know, he's 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.640 a very famous record. So everyone's thinking, like getting an 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.639 autograph and then would be impossible or damn near impossible 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.119 to do, right, Nick Lucas Cage, But does he go 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.280 out and go like, you know, full National Tree measure. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.919 I'm gonna go and steal JD. Saladar's autograph, which is 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.480 my expectation. Freak. He did it like you the smart way. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.520 He's like, I'm rich enough to go buy this. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:09.879 To have signed that books. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.840 Yes, exactly. So he purchased a letter that had his 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.960 signature eyes. So he bought it twenty five hundred dollars. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.480 Day one, he shows up because the kid he was 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.840 a collector from the from the early days. Like I said, 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.360 he was always weirded. She already had a collector guy 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.640 he could contact. He's like, hey, you're my letter guy. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.080 What do you have red phone? Exactly. So, day one 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.280 of his quests, he rocks up to Patricia Kat's house 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.440 with that first item. She's outside. What's she doing? Oh 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.679 you know, she's just playing hopscotch with her girlfriends. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:38.439 Are you kidding? 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.560 Sorry to god, so the love this so much. Big 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.679 Cage rides up, I'm assuming on a motorcycle. He drops 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.040 off the letter in a cigar box. He says nothing 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:48.880 to her, then he rides off. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.359 Wait this is These are the greatest people on earth 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.000 because it's not precious and performing, it's just they're so pure. 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.840 Yes, my god, what are her friends thinking? Like you 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.679 have a guy going on a question to prove his 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:01.440 love to you. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:02.480 Amazing. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.520 Your girlfriend's gotten stoked on that, right, Okay, So let's 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.480 take a little break and after these messages we'll get 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:31.720 back to the love quest. And we're back Elizabeth. So 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.880 what are you thinking so far? You're digging our little and. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.000 Loving this so much. I really am, I really, I'm 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.880 loving the image of her playing hopscotch with her friends. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:42.560 It's just incredible. 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:43.880 And then her new bow rides out. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.840 Yeah, and he violently passes her a cigar box. Which 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.880 cigar boxes are cooler. It's the greatest way to get something. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.040 Great way to get small, like a letter. Perfect. Okay. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.920 So day two rolls around, So, just like on day one, 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.439 Nicholas Cage shows back up a Patricia Arcat's house. He 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.119 rides up on his motorcycle. This time we know for certain. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.280 And as Nick Cage told Playboy back in nineteen ninety six, 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.880 quote she wouldn't come out, but I could see her 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.040 peeking down from the top floor. She confirms his account 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.960 because Patricia Arcutt recalled the same story. She said, quote, 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.840 I peek out the window and there he is with 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.639 a purple orchid and a black spray paint can and 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.920 he's spraying it. She'd asked for a black orchid, right, 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.480 but that doesn't exist. You cannot find a black orchid. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.800 So it's truly as an impossible object. So Nicholas Cage, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.240 he doesn't Nicolose Cage thing. He improvised. So, and I quote, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.800 in my very showy way, I whipped the orchid out 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.199 of my pocket. Then I whipped out the paint can 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.480 it started spray painting the orchid black. Then he goes 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.200 and he walks up to the front door of her house. 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.800 I rang the doorbell again and she came down. I 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:46.560 just gave it to her, and I got back on 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.800 my motorcycle and I left. So once again, doesn't he 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.600 says nothing, just ride to away like that. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.119 He didn't spray it and then bring it over like 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.240 to let her see. Yeah, oh that's so good. 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.960 So Nicholas Cage's uncanny ability to rise to her weirdly 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.200 specific challenges is winning him some points with Patricia Arcuat 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.360 right as she put it, and I quote, I asked 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.560 for a black orchid from the jungles of Peru or 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.520 Brazil or something, and he spray pnded me in orchid. 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.320 It was very romantic. However, he remembers it a little 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.639 differently because Nicholas Cage adds she was freaked out. So 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:26.520 now it's it's day three. She's wondering what to expect 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.960 now on day three, and he's got to be thinking 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.560 of the next item on her list that he can 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.280 get for, probably locally. So I don't know if this 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.560 actually was on day three. I couldn't find that to 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.240 cut for confirmation. But soon enough he contacts her. This 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.639 time he speaks to her right. He calls her and 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.680 he tells her, I almost got the Bob's Big Boy 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.879 last night. But then, as we've covered, he found that 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.600 the Bob's Big Boy statue was chained to its pedestal. 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.359 So Nicholas Cage he has a plan for that, so 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.080 he informs her, I'm gonna go back tonight with the 0:22:55.160 --> 0:23:00.000 right tools. What are the right tools to Nicholas Cage 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.720 Bob's Big Boy heist? Turns out he was gonna bring 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.480 a chainsaw and just wreck some shop. He's like, cut 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.440 that baby right off. Can you imagine the news story 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.520 that would have come out if he got caught chainsaw 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.560 in hand cutting down to Bob's Big Boy and like Burbank. 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:16.400 This is like pre internet. 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.280 Oh yeah, totally. But even though I mean, if him 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.480 telling the cops like I'm doing this for love, he's 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.520 got the chainsaw and he's cutting down Big Boy. 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.000 Then his agent makes him do the apology interview and people. 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:30.320 Exactly and an InStyle. So okay. At this point, uh, 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.560 Nick Cage, he tells her about the chainsaw, He tells 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.679 her about the Bob's Big Boy statue in his plans, 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.639 and Patricia Arquette recalls and I quote and then so 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.439 he was like, and you're gonna marry me soon. So 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.520 finally she realizes how far down the road she's traveling 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.000 with him, and she tells Andy Cohen and Shania Twain 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.040 on Andy Cohen's chat show, and I was like, no, man, 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.240 we've never even gone out on a date. Let's slow 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.159 it down. So she has to tell Nick Cage. I 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.879 was like, okay, stop, let's just date maybe and not 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.679 get married. So at this point, after hearing all this, 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.400 Nicholas Cage is willing to slow it down. 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.040 Of course, participating in courtship like in the days of 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:08.960 oles exactly. 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.880 Yeah, chivalrous, totally. It's very much one of the great romances. 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.200 You gonna hear the minstrel. 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.760 Playing I Love a Good Quest. 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.879 As Patty Arkatt tells it. Then we dated, right, so 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.120 now we got our cute montage for our rom com 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.560 Oh right. The parent they planned to run away to 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:25.800 Cuba for their first date. 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.879 Wait, I am so excited because I was thinking, like, 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:30.040 where would they go on to do? 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.800 Exactly They're going to somewhere with trade relations with America 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.399 or an extradition treaty. So the couple, they only make 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:40.240 it as far as Mexican. 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:42.200 They have to dip down. 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.600 Well, apparently the details are hazy, but apparently he went 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.639 full Nicholas Cage in an airport in Mexico. There is 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.239 some trouble about their tickets, and then Nicholas Cage had 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.719 a full on meltdown and they're like, go back to America. 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.040 It never solves anything, No. 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:57.520 And it was a bit too much for Patricia ar 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.440 Cat too right, So they returned to America, as she 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.560 told Andy Cohne and Shania Twain. And then when I 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.480 think we broke up, it was just too fast and 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.080 too much for me at that time. I was nineteen, right, 0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:09.280 so well, she saw. 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.520 The red flag, don't see the red flags. 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:15.440 Ye splashing anger like that. Yeah, major intensity. Anyway, time 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.200 came and erased those unpleasant memories for her. She had 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.240 a change of heart because, as she put it, and 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.040 then many years went by and we were friendly. And 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.640 in March of nineteen ninety five, Nicholas Cage went into 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.320 Canter's Deli. He was about two am. And guess who 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:33.359 was sitting there all alone? Crispin Glover. No, it was 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.160 Chrispin Glover. I'm going to marry you. Chrispin Glover said 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.600 to him, No, I'm gonna marry you. 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.400 She stood up and said, I can kick. 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.440 So it was Patricia Harkett sitting alone at two am 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.439 in Canters. At this point, she's now twenty seven. Nicholas 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.119 Cage is thirty one, and so he says, Hi, So 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:55.520 did she? They sit, They chalk, they flirt, they laugh. 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.240 She felt that they had both changed, right, they've grown. 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.640 Patricia Katt also says she spent many years in search 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:05.040 of quote, an honorable, truthful, brave man. And she recalled 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:06.959 this man who went on a quest to win her 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.280 hand in marriage, and as she later told The New 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.960 York Times, he was on my mind. I needed to 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.280 be reassured that the depth of his love would be 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.480 as brave as before. And so now a little while later, 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:21.320 she decided maybe she was wrong about Nicholas Cage. And 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.560 then I called him and I said, okay, I'm ready 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:27.240 to get married for their second go round. She was 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.280 the one to propose this time, so, as Nicholas Stage 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:33.320 recalls in an interview with Rolling Stone, and I quote 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:35.560 when she showed up in my house dressed head to 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.960 toe in black vinyl, carrying a big purple wedding cake. 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.600 I knew I was with the right woman. 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:44.240 So there were zero dates. 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.520 I'll be the I think they were skipping past that. 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.919 There was some days before we got to the all blacks. 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.080 The purple wedding cake. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:51.800 Incredible. 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:52.120 Yeah. 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.120 So she's standing there on his front doorstep and she's 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:55.720 trying to get out the words like this is how 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.320 I picture it. Like. She's like, I love you, you you 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.560 complete me, and I just Nicholas Cage listening during interrupts 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.679 and puts up a finger, shut up, just shut up. 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:04.600 You had me at hello. 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.680 I wish I could see that in the movie with 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.000 your boyfriend. 0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.800 Now that these two young lovers have refound each other, 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.600 proclaim their love and their devotion for each other based 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.920 on what you know of them both. Can you imagine 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.520 the wedding of Nicholas cage of Patricia Arcat? 0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.320 Oh my god? 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.359 Right, But you don't have to, Elizabeth, because I'd like 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:28.879 you to close. 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.840 Your eyes are already closed, and i'd like you to 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.520 picture I have already pictured. 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:39.880 Elizabeth. Do you hear that the sound of waves softly 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:44.159 crashing against the sandy beaches of Carmel, California? Do you 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.000 feel that the sea spray in the midst of the 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.960 shore on your fuzzy face, the warmth of the sunlight 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.719 breaking through the clouds overhead and warming you as you 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.720 bob and float among a celp bed in the Monterey bed. You, Elizabeth, 0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.439 are a California Sea God, thank you, and you are 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.280 taking a nap. But your buoyant slumber has disturbed when 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.400 you hear the dulcet engine sound of a Ferrari pull 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.760 up and stop in the gravel. This catches your attention. 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.240 You wipe sleep from your fuzzy eyes and look up 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.520 in the direction of the well engineered car noise. You 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.520 see a blue Ferrari. A man in a dark suit 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.199 gets out the man in the Ferrari are both up 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.400 on a bluff overlooking the Pacific coast. You can see 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.760 them and they can see you. But the man is 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.080 not looking down at the ocean. Instead, he's walking around 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.040 to open the door for his passenger. As you gracefully 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.439 float among the bull kelp, you gaze up at the 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.920 bluff to keep an eye on what these kooky humans 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.800 and the blue Ferrari are doing. A couple other cars 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.920 pull up in part so now you and a few 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.320 other otters, who have also taken note of the party 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.400 of humans, all watch to see what comes next. The 0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.040 small party of humans starts to gather on the bluff. 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.040 You don't know this because you're an otter, but one 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.920 of the humans is the former chief of Police of Carmel. 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.800 Another a minister, a lady preacher, Elizabeth. The man in 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.720 the dark suit stands before the lady preacher. Next to 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.640 him stands a woman in a leopard print jacket. The 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.560 couple look happy. You can see their wide smiles from 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.400 where you lays among the kelp. You've never been to 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.880 a human wedding before. This is your first, and it 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.760 is a doozy Welcome to the wedding of Nicholas Cage 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.600 and Patricia Arquette. You and the other sea otters are 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.400 some of the very few witnesses. All in all, the 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.760 wedding seems like a nice affair. This is what their 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.520 love quest has led to. This is the hero's reward. 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:35.280 The ceremony is short. It lasts a brief ten minutes. 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.120 The couple stands in the sun and the breeze. Their 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.360 love seems so real and so lasting. You find your 0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.640 rooting for these two crazy kids as you watch the 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.520 newly pronounced husband and wife climb back into that blue Ferrari. 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.000 The Italian sports car speeds off, headed down the coast 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:57.160 towards Big Sir, look at you, lucky witness to the 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.560 Patricia Arkhead Nicholas Cage nuptials. 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.200 That was awesome now, it was. 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.320 Patricia Arquette told Andy Cohen and Shania Twain quote, we 0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.080 hadn't slept together for eight years until our wedding night. 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.240 So after hearing all about their long, strange love affair 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.680 and then their wedding night, Jitters, Shania Twain says, that's 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:18.320 very romantic, and Patricia Arqutt agrees that was very romantic. 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.120 I thought Shania Twain was going to say that don't impress. 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.720 Me, right, I was so praying for. 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:25.640 Didn't do it? 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.960 Now, after all those years and all this task from 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.720 the aforementioned love quest, these two crazy kids finally found 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.240 a way to make a go of it. For a 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.080 little while. It was intense, it was passionate. Their marriage 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.720 a brightly burning fire, and naturally it burned out, like 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.840 all things which consumed themselves in flames. They were married 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.040 Elizabeth in nineteen ninety five, but separated in January of 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.480 nineteen ninety six. They technically remained married on the books 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.920 though for years, finally divorcing in two thousand. Oh wow, yeah, 0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.960 so our Kett later would tell Rolling Stone the couple 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.880 separation was due to the fact that quote, his success 0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.520 was very scary to me. I couldn't touch him. I mean, 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.480 I would think her reason was that Nicholas Cage was 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.440 absolutely unhinged. She's like, it's his success. I did not 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.320 expect that. So what about after their divorce? Who got 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.200 to keep the JD. Salinger letter? Yeah, that's what Andy 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.800 Cohen and Shania Twain both wanted to know. That was 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.640 their first question. They're like, yeah, what happened with the 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:22.120 Challenger letter. I know anyway, Patricia Arquett says, and I quote, 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.320 I returned that to him. I never thought he'd get it, 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.160 like I think she never thought he'd actually retreat. 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.600 I think she's probably not the kind of collector. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:34.080 No, he's the collector about that. So as for Nicholas Cage, 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.040 when he speaks at that time in his life, he 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.200 said of his past self, quote, back then, I was 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.600 living out my fantasies of what I thought an exciting 0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.080 man should be. I wanted to be unpredictable and frightening, 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.120 and I guess I was. I mean, Patricia says that 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.040 at the time, I was pure testosterone. I can't really 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.240 imagine myself getting that angry now. I haven't punched a 0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.959 wall in years, so I don't really know what happened. 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.400 I mean, should I be punching walls? No, Nicholas, you 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.520 should not be punching A wild good way to break 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.520 your hand, in an even better way to scare the 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.000 people who love you. So as for the whirlwind love 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.480 that they felt at the time, Patricia Arquett also said, 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.960 and I quote, there's nothing like creativity and young love. 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.800 That's why we have a species. I don't really hate 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.000 any period of the human experience. I've dealt with a 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.160 lot of death, and loving a lot of people through 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.880 their dying time, and loving other people through their birthing time, 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.160 and being out a lot of births, and being young 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.960 and beautiful and not even understanding that, and then getting 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.160 older and becoming invisible for a period of time, and 0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.880 then loving that and getting wiser and knowing which battles 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.760 to fight. I'm really loving this whole, painful, joyful ride 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.040 of life. I think you have to have that attitude 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.240 if you want to go in any relationship with age. Yeah, 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.760 but in general. But I'm saying, but he's really going 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.520 to test you. But if you have this in life, 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:47.120 you're golden. 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:47.960 Yeah, exactly. 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.160 So after their time together and they went their separate ways, 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:54.120 Nicholas Kate continued Elizabeth with his quests, and he even 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.440 managed to get into legal trouble again, only this time 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.000 what he ended up with ilegally was far more valuable. 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:01.880 Well then a Bob's big boy statue. 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.440 We'll be back such a thing. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.920 Oh yeah, I swear We'll be right back. With Nicholas 0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:28.920 Cage's other illegal quests. After these bright messages and we're back, Elizabeth, 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.440 You're back, I know right? Ready for one more? Nicholas 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.240 Cage quest Always in two thousand and seven, there was 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:39.280 a dinosaur skull for sale at an auction you y 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:44.000 I have? It was a Torontosaurus bitar, which is like 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.000 a kissing cousin of a Torontosaurus rex. The enormous Torontosaurus 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.680 dinosaur skull was billed as quote perfect for a New 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:51.800 York City apartment. 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.800 Wait by whom? 0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.640 An auction house? Yeah? 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.120 Can you imagine you work at this auction hus and 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:02.920 you have to write the copy. 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.600 For the catalog perfect for a New York City of park. 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.560 How am I going to describe this on rock? Bigger 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:09.440 than a bread box? 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:10.160 Shoot? 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:11.239 No, that's not going to work. 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:17.000 Draft eight goes well with a gogin No starting bid 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:18.200 one hundred grand? 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:19.040 Wow? 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.160 Yeah. There were three hundred and forty five items for 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.400 sale in this auction. According to the New York Times, 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.680 the list of items up forbidding included and I quote 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:31.600 an Egyptian mummy's hand, a person's hand, Elizabeth. 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.000 A whole hand? 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.040 Horrible all right? 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:37.600 Next, a lion, hyena and warthog skulls followed by a 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:42.280 gold nugget weighing sixty two troy ounces and behind glass 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:46.520 but touchable on request, crystals, minerals, and a meteorite from Mars, 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.480 But the bell of the ball was the Torontosaurus batar skull. 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.760 As The New York Times reported quote, The skull, estimated 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:58.240 to be about sixty seven million years old, is thirty 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.400 two inches long and sixty five sent complete, with the 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.680 rest of it, including the lower right jaw in the 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.040 back of the skull, having been restored with casts, said 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.920 David Hrskowitz, the director of the Gallery's Natural History department. 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:17.960 Was it legally, like I've talked about this. 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:23.120 Yes, of course. Now you might wonder was this legally obtained? 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.640 And that's a good question. I think you know the answer. Yeah, 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.640 I think so, Herskowitz. He said he come into possession 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.600 of this specimen last summer. He's like, I got it 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.719 last summer. It's cool, man, I just recently got this. 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.319 I'm just trying to move in. Collector in Florida had 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.640 apparently contacted them with the rare find Why Florida because 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.319 it clearly wasn't found there, right, So I went, does 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.200 Florida come into it? Well, turns out, as the batar 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:51.160 might indicate, the skull was located in Mongolian bitar, right, 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.239 so excavated there and it wasn't fully freed from the rocks. 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.319 So according to the Florida collector, he purchased this Trontosaurus 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.600 skull from a Japanese collector. You don't know him. He 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.200 goes to different school, and he kept the skull in 0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:04.880 a block of unhewn rock, and he'd put the dinosaur 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.840 head in a display box back in like the nineteen sixties. 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.480 And eventually sells this to the Florida collector, who and 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.279 then turns sells it to the auction house, who and 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.760 then turns it sells it to an unknown buyer. 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:19.080 Interesting to the alleged probanance, I thought it was with Florida. 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.600 I'm imagining it's like South Florida. I thought it would 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:22.800 be like a Russian oligar. 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.719 Yeah. Actually I cannot tell you who the person is, 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.320 but I don't think they're a rausianal oligar. But anyway, 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.399 I wish I could had that information for you. Ay, 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.200 let's pretend they were. So the torontosaurs buitar skull was 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.280 put up on the auction block. It was the subject 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:40.440 of a rather mighty fight amongst bidders. Sure was finally 0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.040 sold to quote a bit of two hundred and seventy 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.560 six thousand dollars phoned in by a private collector on 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.680 the West coast from the gallery would not identify the skull. 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.480 This skull was the big ticket sale of the auction. Elizabeth. 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.799 This is supposed to be for a New York apartment. 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.920 The same mystery bidder also one quote a rare giant 0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:04.760 wolf skull from the Rancho Librea formation. Sale price fifty 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.520 thousand dollars. So this mystery buyer, they've dropped three hundred 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.480 and twenty six thousand dollars and a dinosaur skull and 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.920 a wolf skull. It's long than alleged. The big loser 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:17.040 that day was Leonardo DiCaprio. He was bidding on this 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:21.319 Torontosaurus bitar skull and he ultimately lost out to Nicholas Cave. 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.000 You know where the big loser was that day? Science? 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.240 A lot of people said that, a lot of people 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.080 said that, yes, curatorial process. Yeah, So of course it 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:32.920 was Nick Cage who wanted a rare dino head and 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.040 a prehistoric wolf skull and was willing to drop more 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:36.880 than a quarter million dollars to get it. Now, it 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.799 kind of makes perfect sense because he was buying all 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.440 this real estate at the time. Remember he had the 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.319 two castles, and I'm sure if you you know, if 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.359 you buy two castles, right, you show up and all 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.200 of a sudden, like let's say it's an impulse purchase, right, 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.360 and then you get the keys to your new castle 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.240 or new two U castle, and you walk in you realize, 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.239 oh my god, they took away all this stuff for like, yeah, 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:59.080 the staging my castle, the Knight's armor, Yeah, you got it, 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:00.800 like all of a sudden, phill up a whole castle 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:02.560 with of course, you're like, I need a dinosaur skull. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.520 I'm gonna probably need a wolf scull, and I'm in the. 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.440 Guess there's not a home goods within one hundred miles. 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:12.440 Probably not. It turns out Leonardo DiCaprio got lucky by 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.160 losing out on that day because the plot thickens Elizabeth 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.319 that torontosaur's skull was shady. The Florida collector was a 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.840 big time liar, in fact, a scammer of bones and 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.520 other artifacts. Twenty fourteen, seven years after he bought himself 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.880 that torontosaurus skull. The Department of Homeland Security came to 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.200 Nicholas Cage's home. They're like, hey, we haven't been here 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.120 in a little while now, they formed him. But the 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.000 artifact he bought was in fact illegal, and in short, 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.440 the dinosaur skull was stolen goods, and that it had 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.000 been taken from the Gobi Desert in Mongolia, and the 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.560 FEDS would be taking it from him and returning it 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:44.920 to Mongolia, which they. 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.680 Getting terrorism by buying it. 0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.800 No, I didn't see any allegations of that. Yeah, but boom, 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.959 now Nicholas Cage has to cough up his quarter million 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.360 dollar dinosaur skull to the Feds. He does. When he 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.359 was later asked about this and about you know, what's 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.319 it feel like to lose two hundred and seventy six 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.280 thousand dollars for something that you that's like a weird 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.880 purchase from a seemingly legitimate auction house, he said, in 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.640 the most Nicholas Cage way possible, what is an octopus? 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.640 Eighty dollars? You're not gonna go into dire streets buying 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.120 an octopus. The dinosaur skull was an unfortunate thing. Because 0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.560 I did spend two hundred and seventy six thousand dollars 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.120 on that. I bought it at a legitimate auction and 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.680 found out it was abducted from Mongolia illegally, and then 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.720 I had to give it back. Of course it should 0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.360 be awarded to its country of origin, but who knew. 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.200 Plus I never got my money back, so that stank. 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.000 But I went years where all I was doing was 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.200 meditating three times a day and reading books on philosophy, 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.240 not drinking whatsoever. There was the time when I almost 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.560 went on you might call it a grail quest. I 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.560 started following mythology and I was finding properties that align 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.200 with that. It was almost like national treasure. So Nicholas Cage, 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.439 he's now fusing fact with fiction, life with movies. He's 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.200 living out national treasure in his own life and freely 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.239 admitting it. This is what I'm talking about. This is 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.920 why this man is amazing. He's just living out his movies. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.640 Our parts anyway. So even of course has to admit 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.920 that buying up all the real estate purchases is really 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.239 what nearly bankrupted him. Not the dinosaur. He's like two 0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.000 hundred seventy six thousand dollars versus millions of dollars from 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.319 my castle, no one wants to buy. 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.600 In his mind, he got two hundred and seventy six 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.920 thousand dollars totally pleasure. 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.480 Yeah, so he says, of course that didn't sustain. On 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.560 top of which I said, I'm going to get off 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.640 philosophy because I became like a kite with a string 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.719 but no anchor. No one could understand what I was 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.600 talking about. And I thought people would rather see me 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:38.000 as an orangutan than as an eagle meditating on the mountaintop. Anyway, 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.680 that makes sense to me totally. Right now, I would 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.040 like not to just skip past the meditating eagle on 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.360 the mountaintop versus the orangutan mistaken for Nicholas Cage. But 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.520 let's focus on how his collecting and his acting had 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.319 already somewhat merged in terms of their value to the 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.880 living process we know as Nicholas Cage. So, in a 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.200 twenty nineteen interview with The New York Times, Nicholas Cage 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.680 tells his interviewer, and I quote, you either have the 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.680 pro livity'd open up your imagination or you don't. If 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.040 you have that propensity and are on camera about to 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.000 do a scene. What would make you believe in what 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.680 you were about to do? So you're playing a demon 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.480 biker with an ancient spirit. What power objects could you 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.640 find that might trick your imagination? Would you find an 0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.239 antique from an ancient pyramid, maybe a little sarcophagus that's 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.880 a greenish color and looks like King Tutt? Would you 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.399 sow that into your jacket and know that it's right 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.960 next to you? When the director says action, could you 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:32.240 open yourself up to that power? Those aren't rhetorical questions, 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:36.880 are they. That's what the interviewer asked, right, I did that. Yes. Now, 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.719 if you're at that point where you've looted antiques from 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.320 an ancient pyramid and sown them into your pocket so 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.160 you can do better at your job, you are truly 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.280 open to the universe. 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:45.560 Yeah. 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.000 Right. In the movie Mandy, he has this ad libed 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.680 line and he quotes to his interviewer about the line. 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.080 He mentions it. He says, the psychotic drowns were the 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.440 mystic swims. Now that line actually is from Joseph Campbell, 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.719 and the original line is the psychotic drowns in the 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.520 same waters in which the mystic swims with delight, and 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:04.920 that's how he ended up buying his real estate portfolio. 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.640 He was swimming with delight in his two castles in 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.120 the Rhode Island Woods and in Las Vegas and La 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.239 and elsewhere. His Times interviewer says, oh, okay, I thought 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.040 you were being metaphorical about going on a Grail quest. 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.279 And then Nicholas Cage, apropos of nothing, says, yeah, if 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.640 you go to Glastonbury and go to the Chalice Wall, 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:26.279 there's a spring that does taste like blood. So apparently 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.600 at the Chalice Wall in Glastonbury. I've never been there, 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.759 but the story goes, Joseph of Arimathea secreted away the 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.839 Holy Grail, which is what makes the spring taste like blood. Yeah, 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.719 or it could just be an iron ore deposit that 0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.359 gives it an iron taste, but hey, who am I 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.760 to say anyway? Following that same logic, Nicholas Cage tells 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.080 his interviewer that's the reason why he bought property in 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.160 Rhode Island. Who was chasing Grail legends or well? He said, 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:48.640 and I quote, I don't know if I'm going to 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.239 say that's why I bought the Rhode Island property. But 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:54.040 I will say that is why I went to Rhode Island, 0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.319 and I happened to find the place beautiful. But yes, 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.320 this has put me on a search around different areas, 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.960 mostly in England, but also someplace in the States. What 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.759 I ultimately found is what is the grail? But earth itself? 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.920 A producer Dave, are you familiar with any Rhode Island 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:10.120 holy grail lore? 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:14.399 I don't think so. I mean, we've got what's his name, 0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:18.040 the sci fi writer who's buried in Swan Point Cemetery. 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:18.920 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:20.839 Hp Lovecraft. 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.280 Right, we've got Edgar Allan Poe drinking himself to death 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.760 courting Sarah Haln Whitman on Benefit Street. 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.080 I don't know any grail lore in Rhode Island. 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.160 That's strange. Yeah, so apparently he's the one who uncovered it. 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.520 The Grail is hidden in Rhode Island or maybe anyway. 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.480 The Times interview stays on him about this, and he's 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.719 kind of disappointed that Nicholas Cage was spending his time 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.640 literally chasing after the Grail, like he's like a movie hero, 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.319 and the reporter says, I find the grail quest tend 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.319 to be more fulfilling when they're metaphorical. And this is 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.120 why why I love Nicholas Cage, he tells this cat, Well, 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.480 I knew that, and the metaphor for me is the Earth. 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:57.760 The divine object is Earth. Like that I thought you would, 0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.520 So there it is, Elizabeth. Nicholas Cage went under request 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.640 and he found it planet Earth, and it was good. 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.960 But I love this questing mofo. I mean, I already 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.439 liked and respected and loved Nicholas Cage, but the story 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.840 of him stealing of Bob's Big Boy to win Patricia 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.680 Arquet's heart, and him buying a stolen dinosaur skull that 0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.400 would inadvertently lead him to chase after the Holy Grail, 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:18.640 and then for him to find the whole Earth as 0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.440 his reward, I mean, come on, I love this cash. 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.839 So anyway, he props up to our Bruce Lee of 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:29.440 being intense, the evil Canievil, of acting the Liberachi of lovers. 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:31.480 What's a ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth? 0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:36.719 I am so admiring the intensity. And I normally don't 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:37.600 like people. 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:40.680 I have to tune it down around you. 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.360 You do, and thank you, but no, I just I 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.560 usually don't care for that. But it's so intentional and pure, 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.560 and he takes he's talking about roles that most actors 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.920 would do as a paycheck and maybe not take it 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.759 so seriously and get into character in some sense. But 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:04.279 he's so invested in, like not just getting into a 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.319 character and the motivations and all of that, but to 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:13.600 truly understand this, this creation, and then how it's gonna 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:17.400 help him understand everything around him, everything in the world. 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.160 I really admire that. I love when people just go 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.719 all in totally, and he doesn't seem to be doing 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:27.719 that for a performative sense. He is all in that 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:30.520 world and in his world, and so I think that's 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.040 really cool. What's your ridiculous takeaway. 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:36.000 Oh mine, Elizabeth, thank you for asking. Is I like, 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:37.839 how pretty much what you're saying is that you know 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.680 he's going to play ghostwriter and he's like, what can 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.960 ghostwriter teach me about the human condition? 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:47.200 Right? Like that would just be a paycheck movie. And 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.239 instead he's like, well, someone came up. 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.480 With this, How do I find this soul it's going to. 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.839 In order for it to appeal to the masses, I 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.520 need to tap into what kind of catharsis this is 0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.239 going to provide? Because that's what entertainment is, especially television. 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.320 I can't believe they are a TV person. 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.240 He changes everything, you know, I just feel so free. 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.120 I know you have to move for a talkback, you 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:09.759 still do those? 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:10.719 I always do. 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:14.040 Talk Producer D, could you hit us up with the talkback? Wait? 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.920 Wait before we do that, before we wrap up, I 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.040 have one question for both of you. 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:18.359 Sure. 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.880 Yeah, we've gone all this way and you haven't mentioned 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:23.080 the word Copola. 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:24.200 Isn't there a connection? 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:30.200 Oh? Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he is a nephew of 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.839 Francis Ford, and uh he is a cousin of Sophia 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:40.680 and yeah, and also Jason Schwartzman and Roman Coppola and uh, 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:43.600 yeah is cop and his father's August Coppola. Who was 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:45.279 the reason why I chose the film school I went to. 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.400 Is Copola Cage in Italian? 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.080 No, he picked that because of Luke Cage, the Marvel 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.719 comic actor. He changed it. He started out acting as 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:53.680 a Copola and then he changed. 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.800 Yeah, I remember there's a film where he's credited. 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.880 So my ridiculous takeaway, thank you both of you for asking, 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.040 is uh, you know, I think it takes that kind 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.440 of a setup of family connections to have the life, 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:08.239 to allow. 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.320 Yourself to be as weird as Nicholas Cage can. 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.600 Be totally totally. 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.840 Yeah. But Patricia ar Ketch, he comes from a family 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.960 that is, uh, you know, multi generational actors, but she 0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.560 was basically raised in a cultish kind of like alternative 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.360 lifestyle environment, and she has just that same confidence. I 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.600 think it's more so that your parents have to invest 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.840 in you a big story and make you think that 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.880 you're special in being the son of somebody like you 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.880 know that, or being a Coppola invest you in that story. 0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:35.880 So I think you can do it without having to 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.560 actually be a NEPO baby. You just have to give 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.560 them the same sort of start that a NEPO baby 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.080 has in terms of confidence. Obviously, connections help too in 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.080 a place like Hollywood, but. 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:47.520 Yeah, all buy that. I mean, or being a cult without. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.200 Yeah, so that also helps just you know, be a 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:53.560 cult or a Coppola. 0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:54.360 Yeah, exactly. 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:58.200 So about that talk back. 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.040 Oh yeah about that talk, I've got one. I'm gonna 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.600 warn you on the outset. It's in five parts, so 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:05.960 like butter. 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:15.280 Oh God, I led. 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.000 Hi, Elizabeth his Aaron, Hi, Dave. 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:26.279 Uh So you guys played my talkback and a couple 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.760 episodes ago, I'm the one who had the back surgery. 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.520 Wanted to let you guys know that I'm actually doing better, 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:38.160 and it's funny. I didn't realize I left you a talkback. 0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:41.520 I thought it was all a dream. So it was 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:46.879 very interesting for me to hear my talkback. So thank 0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.480 you for the well wishes. I really appreciated it. I 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.960 actually wanted to tell you about the dream I had 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.759 while I was under the anesthesia and I was with 0:48:55.800 --> 0:49:00.319 you guys apparently. Full disclaimer, though, I did try to 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.920 pretend to be Elizabeth Dutton for a minute, and I 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:08.319 tried to do one of her awesome character voices, but 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.040 I could not do it. I tried to be Elizabeth, 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.799 but I just couldn't do it. You're too awesome. So 0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:20.239 in this anesthesia fueled dream, I was kind of somehow 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:25.520 a part of several different episodes of your podcast, and 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.400 I'm sure you can figure out which ones they were. 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:34.799 It was very distressing for me because my favorite aliens, 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.839 Elizabeth and Zaren, could not help me write my manifesto. 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.360 You guys were also the only aliens I could trust 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.319 because the rest of the aliens wanted to assassinate the 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:52.799 president and assassinate Charlie Chaplin, but it was only you 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:56.399 guys who could save the world with me, apparently, and 0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.640 it was all because Cinderella was late and she wouldn't 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:08.440 write my manifesto. So I honestly have to say I 0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:12.800 love your podcast. Thank you for making it so good, 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:16.479 because it really did give me a really great trip 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.839 while I was in that hospital. Thank you guys so much. 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.880 Oh man, we're so glad to hear that you're feeling 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.160 better and that, yes, that we were there for you 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:26.000 when you need. 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:32.640 I'm glad that that she's feeling better. But oh my, 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:39.360 I'd love to digest those incredible I love. It doesn't 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.360 happen in English, it's translation. 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.759 It's just a name, right, yeah, okay, it's also the 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:50.080 name of a of a wine. So as always, you 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.680 can find us online Ridiculous Crime on the social media 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.440 if you know where to look. Well, so we have 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.640 a website ridiculous Crime dot com. 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