Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dunton, Zaron Burnett. I have a question for you.
Speaker 3: You know that's funny. I have a question for you,
Speaker 3: A question for me. Can I tell you what's ridiculous?
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous? I Elizabeth, what's ridiculous?
Speaker 3: Let me tell you? Okay, So you like the Star Wars?
Speaker 2: I do have the War and the Stars?
Speaker 4: Yes you like that?
Speaker 3: Yes, ghetto the who's your favorite Star Wars character?
Speaker 2: Let me think about that for a second. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with yours, Chewbacca.
Speaker 3: Oh that is my favorite? Going to say Lando cal Worthington,
Speaker 3: I Loveca. I know, So, Dave, who's your favorite Star
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go bib for Tuna.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that that's someone in the band.
Speaker 5: He's one of those people that has like the part
Speaker 5: of his body, the fleshy part that like wraps.
Speaker 3: All the way around like a growth right his head.
Speaker 4: Yeah. A friend of mine did like a fake.
Speaker 5: It was like I think either Jack Ruby or or
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Speaker 5: with like a really shocked expression, and so he became
Speaker 5: my favorite.
Speaker 3: That would now it's my favorite.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: I love a good lee Harvey Oswald, you do. So
Speaker 3: did you guys? Did you guys like Darth Vader?
Speaker 2: Oh? Actually, yes, probably is my favorite character. You're quite honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, let's let's face I love villains.
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Speaker 4: And you got the double entendre.
Speaker 2: Oh there it is? Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something that I don't love?
Speaker 2: What don't you love? Elizabeth?
Speaker 3: On this there's a section on the website that says
Speaker 3: spill the Tea, and it's their faqswh tea. You know,
Speaker 3: we need to get rid of spill the Tea because
Speaker 3: it's generally misused The one that has misused the most
Speaker 3: is to throw shade.
Speaker 2: Can Can brands just stop trying to use the type
Speaker 2: of slang and just go back to hokey language.
Speaker 3: It's not just saying something insultan.
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Speaker 3: stop saying it. Yes, Okay, So yeah, that's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Okay, back of a dead drop, Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just ripped myself in half.
Speaker 2: You know it's also ridiculous. No, I knew you didn't.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing.
Speaker 2: I have a sequel to a Ridiculous Crime story I
Speaker 2: like that starring Nicholas Cage and Patricia Arquette.
Speaker 3: Get out of here now, I will not you. You
Speaker 3: get right on out.
Speaker 2: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,
Speaker 2: and cons. It's ahlways ninety nine percent murder free a
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Speaker 3: Spicy Oh Elizabeth Zaren Oh Zaren Dutton.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Burnette. This story is a sequel, as I just
Speaker 2: told you a squeal. Yes, but it's a sequel to
Speaker 2: my Bob's Big Boy story.
Speaker 3: Whoa, this is immediate quick right, boom.
Speaker 2: Working fast in Hollywood to hold the audience.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I read about this one after I told you that one,
Speaker 2: and boom, I knew I had to tell you this
Speaker 2: one too. So here we go Bob's Big Boy too.
Speaker 2: Boom me all right, Elizabeth, Today I want to tell
Speaker 2: you a story about Bob's Big Boy. One of my
Speaker 2: favorite people on the planet, Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3: I thought it was the second.
Speaker 2: No, he's no longer on the planet. In the planet,
Speaker 2: I guess that's true, Nicholas Cage. Yes, one of my
Speaker 2: favorite people on the planet. Also one of my other
Speaker 2: favorite people on the planet, Patricia Arquette.
Speaker 3: Oh, I had no idea that these are some of
Speaker 3: your face.
Speaker 2: I know why I love like weirdos.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Right, they're both great weirdos, like honest earnest wardos. Not
Speaker 2: precious people. You performative, totally just weird of their cores.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't stand performative weirdo.
Speaker 2: From the jump, I think I'm.
Speaker 3: A little bit of a weirdo.
Speaker 2: You are a weirdo, thank god. So do you like
Speaker 2: them both? Do you have any sure you don't have
Speaker 2: a strong opinions.
Speaker 3: I'm not like you. I don't have a shrine in
Speaker 3: my home to these people.
Speaker 2: I gotta do something with all those candles.
Speaker 3: I know it's a fire hazard.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite partia or cat movie?
Speaker 3: Why do you do this?
Speaker 2: Mine's obviously true romance. Every time I've mentioned this before,
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 3: You ask me these questions, yea, my mind blans like I've.
Speaker 2: Never watched Who's Patrician?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you. My favorite of her performances was
Speaker 3: when she played the Lady of the Night on Law
Speaker 3: and Order SVU. Oh yes, And I have to make
Speaker 3: a confession.
Speaker 2: You watch television.
Speaker 3: I watch so much television, Like I watch so much
Speaker 3: television subsceed and I've to lie on you.
Speaker 2: You really come and clean to I really am.
Speaker 3: And it's I was going to do this as of
Speaker 3: what's ridiculous, but I've chickened out. But right now I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm I'm in a safe place.
Speaker 2: You are lower the lights.
Speaker 3: So much television. It is disgusting. I watch a lot.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to tell us? I
Speaker 2: mean this is blowing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I really this was really cleansing and I'm
Speaker 3: feeling a lot better. But yeah, Patricia Arquette is the
Speaker 3: hooker on SVU.
Speaker 2: Are you really no? Are you really a brunette?
Speaker 3: I'm My ethnicity is Californian.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know, so I'm just checking. Yeah, wow, you
Speaker 2: watch TV. I have so much to talk to you about.
Speaker 3: I know you know.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, Patricia Arquette a performance I love. I'll just
Speaker 2: give you an example. Flirting with Disaster. Do you remember
Speaker 2: this movie? You've seen this movie? Do you watch movies?
Speaker 3: I do. I watch it. I watch every I don't
Speaker 3: watch TikTok or YouTube, but I watch. I love television.
Speaker 3: I have cable television, oh my godness, and the streams.
Speaker 2: Where are you? You're a wire plugger? I am not
Speaker 2: a wire cutter.
Speaker 3: I am plugged into absolutely every outlet in my home. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the movie Flirting with Disaster, if you are familiar
Speaker 2: with it, I'll just give you a brief rundown for
Speaker 2: producer Dave in case he doesn't know it. Ben Stiller
Speaker 2: and his wife Patricia Arquette. Right, they go on this
Speaker 2: cross country quest to find his birth parents. Now he's adopted, obviously,
Speaker 2: so his adoptive parents are Mary Tyler Moore and George Sigall.
Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting, interesting pair, right. I love Mary
Speaker 2: Tyler Moore and I love George Sagall too. His birth
Speaker 2: parents are Lily Tomlin and Alan Alda. No, right, it's semest.
Speaker 2: And then they're like they play these off the grid
Speaker 2: like former hippies who are still making acid, like in
Speaker 2: New Mexico.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 2: And Richard Jenkins if you remember him, he's in it.
Speaker 2: He's an actor who's great and in anything.
Speaker 4: Rhode Islander, total shout out.
Speaker 2: He plays an ATF agent and at some point he
Speaker 2: does acid. So Richard Jenkins on acid, that's just amazing.
Speaker 2: And then Josh Brolin is his partner. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: just like, what, And so I don't want to ruin it,
Speaker 2: but it's this amazing film. No one seems to talk
Speaker 2: about it, so there you go talking. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: it all the time. Patricia ar Kut's in it, so
Speaker 2: she's the moral center of that movie. And anyway, whatever,
Speaker 2: go check out out if you like. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: like movies, you like to laugh. Yeah, And of course
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't at least just reasily
Speaker 2: touch upon a couple of Nicholas Cage performances, right, I mean, here,
Speaker 2: I'll list a couple to jump start your memory. You
Speaker 2: tell me what your favorite Nicholas Cage performance is, m
Speaker 2: or No, let's go with your third favorite. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: Raising Arizona, Yeah, hi, mcdona, Moonstruck he plays Ronnie the
Speaker 2: one handed baker. Peggy Sue got married, he plays the
Speaker 2: teen honeymoon in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: The Rock Oh yeah, con Air yep.
Speaker 2: Face sauce of Yeah, National Treasure one and two. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean I could keep going on. We have so
Speaker 2: much time. But what's your third favorite Nicholas Cage movie performance?
Speaker 3: The one where he plays himself with Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's actually the answer. I was going to tell
Speaker 2: you there was a trick question, Elizabeth. The correct answer
Speaker 2: is The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, the new one
Speaker 2: with Pedro Pascal where he plays Nick Cage.
Speaker 3: That's a great movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, he is the perfect casting for Nick Cage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 2: So as soon as you hear the words Nick Cage
Speaker 2: immediately began to imagine this outsize performance in a movie, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just pretty much known for that. But
Speaker 2: can we talk about his outsize performance in life? Sure?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's had issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no dog is that. But I mean he is
Speaker 2: full tilt Nick Cage all the time. He's just going,
Speaker 2: but not like a bonk bonk click where it's like,
Speaker 2: you know Gary Busey, Yeah, Gary Busey, Christpin Gover. They
Speaker 2: make you a little nervous to be riding shotgun in
Speaker 2: the car with him or Nick Cage. I'm like, nothing's
Speaker 2: going to happen. I'm a Nick Cage.
Speaker 3: There's no governor on him.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly so in an interview, and this is very recent,
Speaker 2: he spoke with GQ in twenty twenty two. They did
Speaker 2: a feature on him and he spoke with the writer
Speaker 2: at Gabriella Payea, great writer, and she went to his
Speaker 2: place in Las Vegae and she got this quote. This
Speaker 2: is up towards the top. It's like basically the lead
Speaker 2: and Nicholas and I quote Nicholas Cage greets me at
Speaker 2: his door wearing a kung fu suit. This is my
Speaker 2: wing chung kung Fu suit, he explains, waving me in
Speaker 2: and handing me a mug of coffee. I studied with
Speaker 2: my seafoo Jim Law when I was twelve years old
Speaker 2: because I was a big Bruce Lee fan, So it's
Speaker 2: like my uniform to relax in. At the time, he
Speaker 2: was fifty eight years old, Elizabeth just living his best
Speaker 2: life in his like you know, ghee, hanging out drinking coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, So Nicholas Cage, do you know, as he's
Speaker 2: pointed out, he does some bonkers things, right, Like he
Speaker 2: has bought not one, but two castles in Europe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't he have a dinosaur?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally, also has the most haunted house in America.
Speaker 2: It's like, in quotes, the most haunted house in America.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 2: He also once owned a Lamborghini that belonged to the
Speaker 2: Shah of Iran. He also bought a two headed snake.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he dreamed about the snake. Yes, sorry, he
Speaker 2: dreamed about a two headed eagle, so I guess he
Speaker 2: was dreaming about the flag of Albania. Anyway, he wakes
Speaker 2: up someone calls him offering him to sell him a
Speaker 2: two headed snake. He's like, this is a something.
Speaker 3: All day long, his phone rings with people offering to
Speaker 3: sell him an oddity.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 3: He has a dedicated phone.
Speaker 2: Like he buys the snake for eighty grande. He then
Speaker 2: later donates it to the Audubon Zoo. Why did he
Speaker 2: give it to the zoo because he found feeding the
Speaker 2: snakes to be a bit depressing, Because, you see, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: he had to shove a spatula between the snake's two
Speaker 2: heads so they wouldn't fight over the food to feed
Speaker 2: the same body. It was a lot for him to hand.
Speaker 2: It was just like anyway. He also had a pair
Speaker 2: of albino cobras. They were like acting teachers to him
Speaker 2: that they inspired his performance in ghost Rider.
Speaker 3: Stop.
Speaker 2: I swear to god. He said that, Elizabeth, how amazing
Speaker 2: would it be to hang out with Nicholas Cage just
Speaker 2: for like a weekend?
Speaker 3: I was super amazing. See how far apart I'm holding
Speaker 3: my arm.
Speaker 2: I can't see them. They're so far apart. So about
Speaker 2: our story of the day. Do you remember when Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage and Patricia Arquette were one married?
Speaker 3: Vaguely?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it lasted not long.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: While they were married, do you know they lived in
Speaker 2: a mansion in bel Air built in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, but not just any mansion, as Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage put it. At the time, and I quote it
Speaker 2: was Dean Martin's house, and I like to imagine the
Speaker 2: parties that probably went on there with Dino Sinatra and
Speaker 2: the rat Pack, you know at the bar. Oh boy,
Speaker 2: can you imagine the parties that that house has seen.
Speaker 2: First you have the rat Pack, then you have Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3: If those I'm telling you right.
Speaker 2: So anyway, uptop, I was speaking of Ben Stiller going
Speaker 2: on a quest in that movie Flirting with Disaster, which
Speaker 2: again you should watch, and I said that movie also
Speaker 2: stars Patricia arqutt Yeah, right, so pulling that all together,
Speaker 2: going on a quest Patricia Arquette. Have you ever heard
Speaker 2: of the story about Nicholas Cage and Patricia Arqutte how
Speaker 2: they got married. No, okay, it's truly a beautiful love story,
Speaker 2: and it's so fitting for both of them, right, Nick
Speaker 2: Cage and Purtrisi Arquette, because long story short, she sent
Speaker 2: him on a quest.
Speaker 3: I love that. I don't even know what it is,
Speaker 3: but I love it.
Speaker 2: Back up, but let's do this more like a movie. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's start with their meat cute. It was the late
Speaker 2: eighties Elizabeth nineteen eighty seven to be exact, at the time,
Speaker 2: Patricia Arquette was nineteen years old, Nicholas Cage was twenty
Speaker 2: three years old. She was at Canters in West Hollywood.
Speaker 2: That's the Jewish deli on Fairfax Love that. She's yeah,
Speaker 2: great place, right, She's in there working on a corn
Speaker 2: beef sandwich.
Speaker 3: Or whatever, putting their going to town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, going get me another one of those pickles
Speaker 2: they have, all right, and uh boom in walks Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage and Crisp and Glover, who you're a man, they're
Speaker 2: best friends. Imagine the two of them just rolling around
Speaker 2: you many. Yeah, so they're friends and they now can
Speaker 2: you imagine hanging out with them in nineteen eighty seven? Anyway,
Speaker 2: they two friends. They walk into Canters, they see Patricia Arquette,
Speaker 2: They go over, they sit with her.
Speaker 3: I would have been very young. Yes, you had a
Speaker 3: lot of drugs, you know, youngest speed freak. Anyway, go ahead,
Speaker 3: So they go over.
Speaker 2: And they talk with her, and then she invites them
Speaker 2: to sit down, or they invite themselves, I don't know.
Speaker 2: They sit with her, they start learning to start having fun. Eventually,
Speaker 2: Crispin Glover he tells her, I want to marry you, right,
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, that's cute, right, and then Hero,
Speaker 2: I'll just let Patricia Arquette put it. She says, I
Speaker 2: met him and Crispin Glover in a restaurant and Christmas said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna marry you and Nick said, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: marry you. Now it's a competition, right, So naturally she's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not happening. But Nicholas Cage was like, and I quote,
Speaker 2: I will prove I am worthy of your love. So
Speaker 2: back to Patricia Arkette's version of the story, he said
Speaker 2: give me a quest. I thought he was joking, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage was not joking.
Speaker 3: Now when he says give me a quest, that man
Speaker 3: means business.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Nicholas Cage is never joking, especially about love. No,
Speaker 2: So back to Patty Arquette, and Nick said, give me
Speaker 2: a list of ten things, like a quest, and I'll
Speaker 2: get all these things and then you'll marry me.
Speaker 3: Okay, love this.
Speaker 2: I figure what your reaction to a man saying.
Speaker 3: Give me a question a quest, And then she's like,
Speaker 3: I'll consider it. Yeah, Well, Patricia, she gets to decide
Speaker 3: the quest totally.
Speaker 2: So she back to her She picks up the story.
Speaker 2: So I wrote, all these things that I thought were
Speaker 2: impossible to get, getting JD. Salinger's autograph, a Hill Tribe
Speaker 2: wedding costume, steal me a Bob's Big Boy statue, like
Speaker 2: all of these things. I was laughing, A black orchid,
Speaker 2: all of these things off the top of her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just comes up with a list of them possible at
Speaker 2: the Canners DELI.
Speaker 3: Oh god.
Speaker 2: So she also she says, you wanted a caddy size
Speaker 2: piece of fiberglass sculpture. It's a quote. Yeah, yeah, now
Speaker 2: that the the Hill Tribe wedding costume. I kind of
Speaker 2: skipped past that. That was a very specific request. Patricia
Speaker 2: Rick had later clarified that she wanted a quote wedding
Speaker 2: dress from the Lesu tribe in Southeast Asia. So that's
Speaker 2: what she told him. So we don't know the full
Speaker 2: list of all ten items, but what we do know
Speaker 2: that was included was this one a wedding dress from
Speaker 2: the Lisu tribe in Southeast Asia. Two a caddy size
Speaker 2: peace fiberglass sculpture. Three getting a JD. Salinger autograph. Four
Speaker 2: steal me a Bob's Big Boy statue. Five a black orchid.
Speaker 2: So that's basically half the list, the original list. It's
Speaker 2: been lost in time. It was publishing something that's no
Speaker 2: longer available online. So I gathered all the people who
Speaker 2: quoted from this, and this is all we have, right.
Speaker 2: So Patricia Arquette, she recalls and I quote. I gave
Speaker 2: him a list of all these things to fined, and
Speaker 2: he started doing them. Now, from what I found, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure the order of the items he brought her.
Speaker 2: Some stories reported one item came in first. Other stories
Speaker 2: would change the order. My favorite version goes though Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage showed up at Patricia Arquette's house with the first item, JD.
Speaker 2: Salinger's autograph.
Speaker 3: I feel like that would probably be the easiest.
Speaker 2: To really why, Oh you're so smart, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: go and yeah, I'm over here right. She considered this
Speaker 2: I impossible to retrieve object because as you know, he's
Speaker 2: a very famous record. So everyone's thinking, like getting an
Speaker 2: autograph and then would be impossible or damn near impossible
Speaker 2: to do, right, Nick Lucas Cage, But does he go
Speaker 2: out and go like, you know, full National Tree measure.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and steal JD. Saladar's autograph, which is
Speaker 2: my expectation. Freak. He did it like you the smart way.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm rich enough to go buy this.
Speaker 3: To have signed that books.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So he purchased a letter that had his
Speaker 2: signature eyes. So he bought it twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Day one, he shows up because the kid he was
Speaker 2: a collector from the from the early days. Like I said,
Speaker 2: he was always weirded. She already had a collector guy
Speaker 2: he could contact. He's like, hey, you're my letter guy.
Speaker 2: What do you have red phone? Exactly. So, day one
Speaker 2: of his quests, he rocks up to Patricia Kat's house
Speaker 2: with that first item. She's outside. What's she doing? Oh
Speaker 2: you know, she's just playing hopscotch with her girlfriends.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Sorry to god, so the love this so much. Big
Speaker 2: Cage rides up, I'm assuming on a motorcycle. He drops
Speaker 2: off the letter in a cigar box. He says nothing
Speaker 2: to her, then he rides off.
Speaker 3: Wait this is These are the greatest people on earth
Speaker 3: because it's not precious and performing, it's just they're so pure.
Speaker 2: Yes, my god, what are her friends thinking? Like you
Speaker 2: have a guy going on a question to prove his
Speaker 2: love to you.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Your girlfriend's gotten stoked on that, right, Okay, So let's
Speaker 2: take a little break and after these messages we'll get
Speaker 2: back to the love quest. And we're back Elizabeth. So
Speaker 2: what are you thinking so far? You're digging our little and.
Speaker 3: Loving this so much. I really am, I really, I'm
Speaker 3: loving the image of her playing hopscotch with her friends.
Speaker 3: It's just incredible.
Speaker 2: And then her new bow rides out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he violently passes her a cigar box. Which
Speaker 3: cigar boxes are cooler. It's the greatest way to get something.
Speaker 2: Great way to get small, like a letter. Perfect. Okay.
Speaker 2: So day two rolls around, So, just like on day one,
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage shows back up a Patricia Arcat's house. He
Speaker 2: rides up on his motorcycle. This time we know for certain.
Speaker 2: And as Nick Cage told Playboy back in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 2: quote she wouldn't come out, but I could see her
Speaker 2: peeking down from the top floor. She confirms his account
Speaker 2: because Patricia Arcutt recalled the same story. She said, quote,
Speaker 2: I peek out the window and there he is with
Speaker 2: a purple orchid and a black spray paint can and
Speaker 2: he's spraying it. She'd asked for a black orchid, right,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't exist. You cannot find a black orchid.
Speaker 2: So it's truly as an impossible object. So Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 2: he doesn't Nicolose Cage thing. He improvised. So, and I quote,
Speaker 2: in my very showy way, I whipped the orchid out
Speaker 2: of my pocket. Then I whipped out the paint can
Speaker 2: it started spray painting the orchid black. Then he goes
Speaker 2: and he walks up to the front door of her house.
Speaker 2: I rang the doorbell again and she came down. I
Speaker 2: just gave it to her, and I got back on
Speaker 2: my motorcycle and I left. So once again, doesn't he
Speaker 2: says nothing, just ride to away like that.
Speaker 3: He didn't spray it and then bring it over like
Speaker 3: to let her see. Yeah, oh that's so good.
Speaker 2: So Nicholas Cage's uncanny ability to rise to her weirdly
Speaker 2: specific challenges is winning him some points with Patricia Arcuat
Speaker 2: right as she put it, and I quote, I asked
Speaker 2: for a black orchid from the jungles of Peru or
Speaker 2: Brazil or something, and he spray pnded me in orchid.
Speaker 2: It was very romantic. However, he remembers it a little
Speaker 2: differently because Nicholas Cage adds she was freaked out. So
Speaker 2: now it's it's day three. She's wondering what to expect
Speaker 2: now on day three, and he's got to be thinking
Speaker 2: of the next item on her list that he can
Speaker 2: get for, probably locally. So I don't know if this
Speaker 2: actually was on day three. I couldn't find that to
Speaker 2: cut for confirmation. But soon enough he contacts her. This
Speaker 2: time he speaks to her right. He calls her and
Speaker 2: he tells her, I almost got the Bob's Big Boy
Speaker 2: last night. But then, as we've covered, he found that
Speaker 2: the Bob's Big Boy statue was chained to its pedestal.
Speaker 2: So Nicholas Cage he has a plan for that, so
Speaker 2: he informs her, I'm gonna go back tonight with the
Speaker 2: right tools. What are the right tools to Nicholas Cage
Speaker 2: Bob's Big Boy heist? Turns out he was gonna bring
Speaker 2: a chainsaw and just wreck some shop. He's like, cut
Speaker 2: that baby right off. Can you imagine the news story
Speaker 2: that would have come out if he got caught chainsaw
Speaker 2: in hand cutting down to Bob's Big Boy and like Burbank.
Speaker 3: This is like pre internet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. But even though I mean, if him
Speaker 2: telling the cops like I'm doing this for love, he's
Speaker 2: got the chainsaw and he's cutting down Big Boy.
Speaker 3: Then his agent makes him do the apology interview and people.
Speaker 2: Exactly and an InStyle. So okay. At this point, uh,
Speaker 2: Nick Cage, he tells her about the chainsaw, He tells
Speaker 2: her about the Bob's Big Boy statue in his plans,
Speaker 2: and Patricia Arquette recalls and I quote and then so
Speaker 2: he was like, and you're gonna marry me soon. So
Speaker 2: finally she realizes how far down the road she's traveling
Speaker 2: with him, and she tells Andy Cohen and Shania Twain
Speaker 2: on Andy Cohen's chat show, and I was like, no, man,
Speaker 2: we've never even gone out on a date. Let's slow
Speaker 2: it down. So she has to tell Nick Cage. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, stop, let's just date maybe and not
Speaker 2: get married. So at this point, after hearing all this,
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage is willing to slow it down.
Speaker 3: Of course, participating in courtship like in the days of
Speaker 3: oles exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, chivalrous, totally. It's very much one of the great romances.
Speaker 2: You gonna hear the minstrel.
Speaker 3: Playing I Love a Good Quest.
Speaker 2: As Patty Arkatt tells it. Then we dated, right, so
Speaker 2: now we got our cute montage for our rom com
Speaker 2: Oh right. The parent they planned to run away to
Speaker 2: Cuba for their first date.
Speaker 3: Wait, I am so excited because I was thinking, like,
Speaker 3: where would they go on to do?
Speaker 2: Exactly They're going to somewhere with trade relations with America
Speaker 2: or an extradition treaty. So the couple, they only make
Speaker 2: it as far as Mexican.
Speaker 3: They have to dip down.
Speaker 2: Well, apparently the details are hazy, but apparently he went
Speaker 2: full Nicholas Cage in an airport in Mexico. There is
Speaker 2: some trouble about their tickets, and then Nicholas Cage had
Speaker 2: a full on meltdown and they're like, go back to America.
Speaker 3: It never solves anything, No.
Speaker 2: And it was a bit too much for Patricia ar
Speaker 2: Cat too right, So they returned to America, as she
Speaker 2: told Andy Cohne and Shania Twain. And then when I
Speaker 2: think we broke up, it was just too fast and
Speaker 2: too much for me at that time. I was nineteen, right,
Speaker 2: so well, she saw.
Speaker 3: The red flag, don't see the red flags.
Speaker 2: Ye splashing anger like that. Yeah, major intensity. Anyway, time
Speaker 2: came and erased those unpleasant memories for her. She had
Speaker 2: a change of heart because, as she put it, and
Speaker 2: then many years went by and we were friendly. And
Speaker 2: in March of nineteen ninety five, Nicholas Cage went into
Speaker 2: Canter's Deli. He was about two am. And guess who
Speaker 2: was sitting there all alone? Crispin Glover. No, it was
Speaker 2: Chrispin Glover. I'm going to marry you. Chrispin Glover said
Speaker 2: to him, No, I'm gonna marry you.
Speaker 3: She stood up and said, I can kick.
Speaker 2: So it was Patricia Harkett sitting alone at two am
Speaker 2: in Canters. At this point, she's now twenty seven. Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage is thirty one, and so he says, Hi, So
Speaker 2: did she? They sit, They chalk, they flirt, they laugh.
Speaker 2: She felt that they had both changed, right, they've grown.
Speaker 2: Patricia Katt also says she spent many years in search
Speaker 2: of quote, an honorable, truthful, brave man. And she recalled
Speaker 2: this man who went on a quest to win her
Speaker 2: hand in marriage, and as she later told The New
Speaker 2: York Times, he was on my mind. I needed to
Speaker 2: be reassured that the depth of his love would be
Speaker 2: as brave as before. And so now a little while later,
Speaker 2: she decided maybe she was wrong about Nicholas Cage. And
Speaker 2: then I called him and I said, okay, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to get married for their second go round. She was
Speaker 2: the one to propose this time, so, as Nicholas Stage
Speaker 2: recalls in an interview with Rolling Stone, and I quote
Speaker 2: when she showed up in my house dressed head to
Speaker 2: toe in black vinyl, carrying a big purple wedding cake.
Speaker 2: I knew I was with the right woman.
Speaker 3: So there were zero dates.
Speaker 2: I'll be the I think they were skipping past that.
Speaker 2: There was some days before we got to the all blacks.
Speaker 2: The purple wedding cake.
Speaker 3: Incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she's standing there on his front doorstep and she's
Speaker 2: trying to get out the words like this is how
Speaker 2: I picture it. Like. She's like, I love you, you you
Speaker 2: complete me, and I just Nicholas Cage listening during interrupts
Speaker 2: and puts up a finger, shut up, just shut up.
Speaker 2: You had me at hello.
Speaker 3: I wish I could see that in the movie with
Speaker 3: your boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Now that these two young lovers have refound each other,
Speaker 2: proclaim their love and their devotion for each other based
Speaker 2: on what you know of them both. Can you imagine
Speaker 2: the wedding of Nicholas cage of Patricia Arcat?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Right, But you don't have to, Elizabeth, because I'd like
Speaker 2: you to close.
Speaker 3: Your eyes are already closed, and i'd like you to
Speaker 3: picture I have already pictured.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth. Do you hear that the sound of waves softly
Speaker 2: crashing against the sandy beaches of Carmel, California? Do you
Speaker 2: feel that the sea spray in the midst of the
Speaker 2: shore on your fuzzy face, the warmth of the sunlight
Speaker 2: breaking through the clouds overhead and warming you as you
Speaker 2: bob and float among a celp bed in the Monterey bed. You, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: are a California Sea God, thank you, and you are
Speaker 2: taking a nap. But your buoyant slumber has disturbed when
Speaker 2: you hear the dulcet engine sound of a Ferrari pull
Speaker 2: up and stop in the gravel. This catches your attention.
Speaker 2: You wipe sleep from your fuzzy eyes and look up
Speaker 2: in the direction of the well engineered car noise. You
Speaker 2: see a blue Ferrari. A man in a dark suit
Speaker 2: gets out the man in the Ferrari are both up
Speaker 2: on a bluff overlooking the Pacific coast. You can see
Speaker 2: them and they can see you. But the man is
Speaker 2: not looking down at the ocean. Instead, he's walking around
Speaker 2: to open the door for his passenger. As you gracefully
Speaker 2: float among the bull kelp, you gaze up at the
Speaker 2: bluff to keep an eye on what these kooky humans
Speaker 2: and the blue Ferrari are doing. A couple other cars
Speaker 2: pull up in part so now you and a few
Speaker 2: other otters, who have also taken note of the party
Speaker 2: of humans, all watch to see what comes next. The
Speaker 2: small party of humans starts to gather on the bluff.
Speaker 2: You don't know this because you're an otter, but one
Speaker 2: of the humans is the former chief of Police of Carmel.
Speaker 2: Another a minister, a lady preacher, Elizabeth. The man in
Speaker 2: the dark suit stands before the lady preacher. Next to
Speaker 2: him stands a woman in a leopard print jacket. The
Speaker 2: couple look happy. You can see their wide smiles from
Speaker 2: where you lays among the kelp. You've never been to
Speaker 2: a human wedding before. This is your first, and it
Speaker 2: is a doozy Welcome to the wedding of Nicholas Cage
Speaker 2: and Patricia Arquette. You and the other sea otters are
Speaker 2: some of the very few witnesses. All in all, the
Speaker 2: wedding seems like a nice affair. This is what their
Speaker 2: love quest has led to. This is the hero's reward.
Speaker 2: The ceremony is short. It lasts a brief ten minutes.
Speaker 2: The couple stands in the sun and the breeze. Their
Speaker 2: love seems so real and so lasting. You find your
Speaker 2: rooting for these two crazy kids as you watch the
Speaker 2: newly pronounced husband and wife climb back into that blue Ferrari.
Speaker 2: The Italian sports car speeds off, headed down the coast
Speaker 2: towards Big Sir, look at you, lucky witness to the
Speaker 2: Patricia Arkhead Nicholas Cage nuptials.
Speaker 3: That was awesome now, it was.
Speaker 2: Patricia Arquette told Andy Cohen and Shania Twain quote, we
Speaker 2: hadn't slept together for eight years until our wedding night.
Speaker 2: So after hearing all about their long, strange love affair
Speaker 2: and then their wedding night, Jitters, Shania Twain says, that's
Speaker 2: very romantic, and Patricia Arqutt agrees that was very romantic.
Speaker 3: I thought Shania Twain was going to say that don't impress.
Speaker 2: Me, right, I was so praying for.
Speaker 3: Didn't do it?
Speaker 2: Now, after all those years and all this task from
Speaker 2: the aforementioned love quest, these two crazy kids finally found
Speaker 2: a way to make a go of it. For a
Speaker 2: little while. It was intense, it was passionate. Their marriage
Speaker 2: a brightly burning fire, and naturally it burned out, like
Speaker 2: all things which consumed themselves in flames. They were married
Speaker 2: Elizabeth in nineteen ninety five, but separated in January of
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. They technically remained married on the books
Speaker 2: though for years, finally divorcing in two thousand. Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: so our Kett later would tell Rolling Stone the couple
Speaker 2: separation was due to the fact that quote, his success
Speaker 2: was very scary to me. I couldn't touch him. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would think her reason was that Nicholas Cage was
Speaker 2: absolutely unhinged. She's like, it's his success. I did not
Speaker 2: expect that. So what about after their divorce? Who got
Speaker 2: to keep the JD. Salinger letter? Yeah, that's what Andy
Speaker 2: Cohen and Shania Twain both wanted to know. That was
Speaker 2: their first question. They're like, yeah, what happened with the
Speaker 2: Challenger letter. I know anyway, Patricia Arquett says, and I quote,
Speaker 2: I returned that to him. I never thought he'd get it,
Speaker 2: like I think she never thought he'd actually retreat.
Speaker 3: I think she's probably not the kind of collector.
Speaker 2: No, he's the collector about that. So as for Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 2: when he speaks at that time in his life, he
Speaker 2: said of his past self, quote, back then, I was
Speaker 2: living out my fantasies of what I thought an exciting
Speaker 2: man should be. I wanted to be unpredictable and frightening,
Speaker 2: and I guess I was. I mean, Patricia says that
Speaker 2: at the time, I was pure testosterone. I can't really
Speaker 2: imagine myself getting that angry now. I haven't punched a
Speaker 2: wall in years, so I don't really know what happened.
Speaker 2: I mean, should I be punching walls? No, Nicholas, you
Speaker 2: should not be punching A wild good way to break
Speaker 2: your hand, in an even better way to scare the
Speaker 2: people who love you. So as for the whirlwind love
Speaker 2: that they felt at the time, Patricia Arquett also said,
Speaker 2: and I quote, there's nothing like creativity and young love.
Speaker 2: That's why we have a species. I don't really hate
Speaker 2: any period of the human experience. I've dealt with a
Speaker 2: lot of death, and loving a lot of people through
Speaker 2: their dying time, and loving other people through their birthing time,
Speaker 2: and being out a lot of births, and being young
Speaker 2: and beautiful and not even understanding that, and then getting
Speaker 2: older and becoming invisible for a period of time, and
Speaker 2: then loving that and getting wiser and knowing which battles
Speaker 2: to fight. I'm really loving this whole, painful, joyful ride
Speaker 2: of life. I think you have to have that attitude
Speaker 2: if you want to go in any relationship with age. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but in general. But I'm saying, but he's really going
Speaker 2: to test you. But if you have this in life,
Speaker 2: you're golden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So after their time together and they went their separate ways,
Speaker 2: Nicholas Kate continued Elizabeth with his quests, and he even
Speaker 2: managed to get into legal trouble again, only this time
Speaker 2: what he ended up with ilegally was far more valuable.
Speaker 2: Well then a Bob's big boy statue.
Speaker 3: We'll be back such a thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I swear We'll be right back. With Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage's other illegal quests. After these bright messages and we're back, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: You're back, I know right? Ready for one more? Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage quest Always in two thousand and seven, there was
Speaker 2: a dinosaur skull for sale at an auction you y
Speaker 2: I have? It was a Torontosaurus bitar, which is like
Speaker 2: a kissing cousin of a Torontosaurus rex. The enormous Torontosaurus
Speaker 2: dinosaur skull was billed as quote perfect for a New
Speaker 2: York City apartment.
Speaker 3: Wait by whom?
Speaker 2: An auction house? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can you imagine you work at this auction hus and
Speaker 3: you have to write the copy.
Speaker 2: For the catalog perfect for a New York City of park.
Speaker 3: How am I going to describe this on rock? Bigger
Speaker 3: than a bread box?
Speaker 6: Shoot?
Speaker 3: No, that's not going to work.
Speaker 2: Draft eight goes well with a gogin No starting bid
Speaker 2: one hundred grand?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah. There were three hundred and forty five items for
Speaker 2: sale in this auction. According to the New York Times,
Speaker 2: the list of items up forbidding included and I quote
Speaker 2: an Egyptian mummy's hand, a person's hand, Elizabeth.
Speaker 4: A whole hand?
Speaker 3: Horrible all right?
Speaker 2: Next, a lion, hyena and warthog skulls followed by a
Speaker 2: gold nugget weighing sixty two troy ounces and behind glass
Speaker 2: but touchable on request, crystals, minerals, and a meteorite from Mars,
Speaker 2: But the bell of the ball was the Torontosaurus batar skull.
Speaker 2: As The New York Times reported quote, The skull, estimated
Speaker 2: to be about sixty seven million years old, is thirty
Speaker 2: two inches long and sixty five sent complete, with the
Speaker 2: rest of it, including the lower right jaw in the
Speaker 2: back of the skull, having been restored with casts, said
Speaker 2: David Hrskowitz, the director of the Gallery's Natural History department.
Speaker 3: Was it legally, like I've talked about this.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Now you might wonder was this legally obtained?
Speaker 2: And that's a good question. I think you know the answer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so, Herskowitz. He said he come into possession
Speaker 2: of this specimen last summer. He's like, I got it
Speaker 2: last summer. It's cool, man, I just recently got this.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to move in. Collector in Florida had
Speaker 2: apparently contacted them with the rare find Why Florida because
Speaker 2: it clearly wasn't found there, right, So I went, does
Speaker 2: Florida come into it? Well, turns out, as the batar
Speaker 2: might indicate, the skull was located in Mongolian bitar, right,
Speaker 2: so excavated there and it wasn't fully freed from the rocks.
Speaker 2: So according to the Florida collector, he purchased this Trontosaurus
Speaker 2: skull from a Japanese collector. You don't know him. He
Speaker 2: goes to different school, and he kept the skull in
Speaker 2: a block of unhewn rock, and he'd put the dinosaur
Speaker 2: head in a display box back in like the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: And eventually sells this to the Florida collector, who and
Speaker 2: then turns sells it to the auction house, who and
Speaker 2: then turns it sells it to an unknown buyer.
Speaker 3: Interesting to the alleged probanance, I thought it was with Florida.
Speaker 3: I'm imagining it's like South Florida. I thought it would
Speaker 3: be like a Russian oligar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I cannot tell you who the person is,
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're a rausianal oligar. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I wish I could had that information for you. Ay,
Speaker 2: let's pretend they were. So the torontosaurs buitar skull was
Speaker 2: put up on the auction block. It was the subject
Speaker 2: of a rather mighty fight amongst bidders. Sure was finally
Speaker 2: sold to quote a bit of two hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: six thousand dollars phoned in by a private collector on
Speaker 2: the West coast from the gallery would not identify the skull.
Speaker 2: This skull was the big ticket sale of the auction. Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: This is supposed to be for a New York apartment.
Speaker 2: The same mystery bidder also one quote a rare giant
Speaker 2: wolf skull from the Rancho Librea formation. Sale price fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So this mystery buyer, they've dropped three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty six thousand dollars and a dinosaur skull and
Speaker 2: a wolf skull. It's long than alleged. The big loser
Speaker 2: that day was Leonardo DiCaprio. He was bidding on this
Speaker 2: Torontosaurus bitar skull and he ultimately lost out to Nicholas Cave.
Speaker 3: You know where the big loser was that day? Science?
Speaker 2: A lot of people said that, a lot of people
Speaker 2: said that, yes, curatorial process. Yeah, So of course it
Speaker 2: was Nick Cage who wanted a rare dino head and
Speaker 2: a prehistoric wolf skull and was willing to drop more
Speaker 2: than a quarter million dollars to get it. Now, it
Speaker 2: kind of makes perfect sense because he was buying all
Speaker 2: this real estate at the time. Remember he had the
Speaker 2: two castles, and I'm sure if you you know, if
Speaker 2: you buy two castles, right, you show up and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like let's say it's an impulse purchase, right,
Speaker 2: and then you get the keys to your new castle
Speaker 2: or new two U castle, and you walk in you realize,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they took away all this stuff for like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the staging my castle, the Knight's armor, Yeah, you got it,
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, phill up a whole castle
Speaker 2: with of course, you're like, I need a dinosaur skull.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably need a wolf scull, and I'm in the.
Speaker 3: Guess there's not a home goods within one hundred miles.
Speaker 2: Probably not. It turns out Leonardo DiCaprio got lucky by
Speaker 2: losing out on that day because the plot thickens Elizabeth
Speaker 2: that torontosaur's skull was shady. The Florida collector was a
Speaker 2: big time liar, in fact, a scammer of bones and
Speaker 2: other artifacts. Twenty fourteen, seven years after he bought himself
Speaker 2: that torontosaurus skull. The Department of Homeland Security came to
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage's home. They're like, hey, we haven't been here
Speaker 2: in a little while now, they formed him. But the
Speaker 2: artifact he bought was in fact illegal, and in short,
Speaker 2: the dinosaur skull was stolen goods, and that it had
Speaker 2: been taken from the Gobi Desert in Mongolia, and the
Speaker 2: FEDS would be taking it from him and returning it
Speaker 2: to Mongolia, which they.
Speaker 3: Getting terrorism by buying it.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see any allegations of that. Yeah, but boom,
Speaker 2: now Nicholas Cage has to cough up his quarter million
Speaker 2: dollar dinosaur skull to the Feds. He does. When he
Speaker 2: was later asked about this and about you know, what's
Speaker 2: it feel like to lose two hundred and seventy six
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for something that you that's like a weird
Speaker 2: purchase from a seemingly legitimate auction house, he said, in
Speaker 2: the most Nicholas Cage way possible, what is an octopus?
Speaker 2: Eighty dollars? You're not gonna go into dire streets buying
Speaker 2: an octopus. The dinosaur skull was an unfortunate thing. Because
Speaker 2: I did spend two hundred and seventy six thousand dollars
Speaker 2: on that. I bought it at a legitimate auction and
Speaker 2: found out it was abducted from Mongolia illegally, and then
Speaker 2: I had to give it back. Of course it should
Speaker 2: be awarded to its country of origin, but who knew.
Speaker 2: Plus I never got my money back, so that stank.
Speaker 2: But I went years where all I was doing was
Speaker 2: meditating three times a day and reading books on philosophy,
Speaker 2: not drinking whatsoever. There was the time when I almost
Speaker 2: went on you might call it a grail quest. I
Speaker 2: started following mythology and I was finding properties that align
Speaker 2: with that. It was almost like national treasure. So Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 2: he's now fusing fact with fiction, life with movies. He's
Speaker 2: living out national treasure in his own life and freely
Speaker 2: admitting it. This is what I'm talking about. This is
Speaker 2: why this man is amazing. He's just living out his movies.
Speaker 2: Our parts anyway. So even of course has to admit
Speaker 2: that buying up all the real estate purchases is really
Speaker 2: what nearly bankrupted him. Not the dinosaur. He's like two
Speaker 2: hundred seventy six thousand dollars versus millions of dollars from
Speaker 2: my castle, no one wants to buy.
Speaker 3: In his mind, he got two hundred and seventy six
Speaker 3: thousand dollars totally pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he says, of course that didn't sustain. On
Speaker 2: top of which I said, I'm going to get off
Speaker 2: philosophy because I became like a kite with a string
Speaker 2: but no anchor. No one could understand what I was
Speaker 2: talking about. And I thought people would rather see me
Speaker 2: as an orangutan than as an eagle meditating on the mountaintop. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that makes sense to me totally. Right now, I would
Speaker 2: like not to just skip past the meditating eagle on
Speaker 2: the mountaintop versus the orangutan mistaken for Nicholas Cage. But
Speaker 2: let's focus on how his collecting and his acting had
Speaker 2: already somewhat merged in terms of their value to the
Speaker 2: living process we know as Nicholas Cage. So, in a
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen interview with The New York Times, Nicholas Cage
Speaker 2: tells his interviewer, and I quote, you either have the
Speaker 2: pro livity'd open up your imagination or you don't. If
Speaker 2: you have that propensity and are on camera about to
Speaker 2: do a scene. What would make you believe in what
Speaker 2: you were about to do? So you're playing a demon
Speaker 2: biker with an ancient spirit. What power objects could you
Speaker 2: find that might trick your imagination? Would you find an
Speaker 2: antique from an ancient pyramid, maybe a little sarcophagus that's
Speaker 2: a greenish color and looks like King Tutt? Would you
Speaker 2: sow that into your jacket and know that it's right
Speaker 2: next to you? When the director says action, could you
Speaker 2: open yourself up to that power? Those aren't rhetorical questions,
Speaker 2: are they. That's what the interviewer asked, right, I did that. Yes. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're at that point where you've looted antiques from
Speaker 2: an ancient pyramid and sown them into your pocket so
Speaker 2: you can do better at your job, you are truly
Speaker 2: open to the universe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right. In the movie Mandy, he has this ad libed
Speaker 2: line and he quotes to his interviewer about the line.
Speaker 2: He mentions it. He says, the psychotic drowns were the
Speaker 2: mystic swims. Now that line actually is from Joseph Campbell,
Speaker 2: and the original line is the psychotic drowns in the
Speaker 2: same waters in which the mystic swims with delight, and
Speaker 2: that's how he ended up buying his real estate portfolio.
Speaker 2: He was swimming with delight in his two castles in
Speaker 2: the Rhode Island Woods and in Las Vegas and La
Speaker 2: and elsewhere. His Times interviewer says, oh, okay, I thought
Speaker 2: you were being metaphorical about going on a Grail quest.
Speaker 2: And then Nicholas Cage, apropos of nothing, says, yeah, if
Speaker 2: you go to Glastonbury and go to the Chalice Wall,
Speaker 2: there's a spring that does taste like blood. So apparently
Speaker 2: at the Chalice Wall in Glastonbury. I've never been there,
Speaker 2: but the story goes, Joseph of Arimathea secreted away the
Speaker 2: Holy Grail, which is what makes the spring taste like blood. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or it could just be an iron ore deposit that
Speaker 2: gives it an iron taste, but hey, who am I
Speaker 2: to say anyway? Following that same logic, Nicholas Cage tells
Speaker 2: his interviewer that's the reason why he bought property in
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. Who was chasing Grail legends or well? He said,
Speaker 2: and I quote, I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 2: say that's why I bought the Rhode Island property. But
Speaker 2: I will say that is why I went to Rhode Island,
Speaker 2: and I happened to find the place beautiful. But yes,
Speaker 2: this has put me on a search around different areas,
Speaker 2: mostly in England, but also someplace in the States. What
Speaker 2: I ultimately found is what is the grail? But earth itself?
Speaker 3: A producer Dave, are you familiar with any Rhode Island
Speaker 3: holy grail lore?
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean, we've got what's his name,
Speaker 5: the sci fi writer who's buried in Swan Point Cemetery.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Hp Lovecraft.
Speaker 5: Right, we've got Edgar Allan Poe drinking himself to death
Speaker 5: courting Sarah Haln Whitman on Benefit Street.
Speaker 2: I don't know any grail lore in Rhode Island.
Speaker 3: That's strange. Yeah, so apparently he's the one who uncovered it.
Speaker 2: The Grail is hidden in Rhode Island or maybe anyway.
Speaker 2: The Times interview stays on him about this, and he's
Speaker 2: kind of disappointed that Nicholas Cage was spending his time
Speaker 2: literally chasing after the Grail, like he's like a movie hero,
Speaker 2: and the reporter says, I find the grail quest tend
Speaker 2: to be more fulfilling when they're metaphorical. And this is
Speaker 2: why why I love Nicholas Cage, he tells this cat, Well,
Speaker 2: I knew that, and the metaphor for me is the Earth.
Speaker 2: The divine object is Earth. Like that I thought you would,
Speaker 2: So there it is, Elizabeth. Nicholas Cage went under request
Speaker 2: and he found it planet Earth, and it was good.
Speaker 2: But I love this questing mofo. I mean, I already
Speaker 2: liked and respected and loved Nicholas Cage, but the story
Speaker 2: of him stealing of Bob's Big Boy to win Patricia
Speaker 2: Arquet's heart, and him buying a stolen dinosaur skull that
Speaker 2: would inadvertently lead him to chase after the Holy Grail,
Speaker 2: and then for him to find the whole Earth as
Speaker 2: his reward, I mean, come on, I love this cash.
Speaker 2: So anyway, he props up to our Bruce Lee of
Speaker 2: being intense, the evil Canievil, of acting the Liberachi of lovers.
Speaker 2: What's a ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth?
Speaker 3: I am so admiring the intensity. And I normally don't
Speaker 3: like people.
Speaker 2: I have to tune it down around you.
Speaker 3: You do, and thank you, but no, I just I
Speaker 3: usually don't care for that. But it's so intentional and pure,
Speaker 3: and he takes he's talking about roles that most actors
Speaker 3: would do as a paycheck and maybe not take it
Speaker 3: so seriously and get into character in some sense. But
Speaker 3: he's so invested in, like not just getting into a
Speaker 3: character and the motivations and all of that, but to
Speaker 3: truly understand this, this creation, and then how it's gonna
Speaker 3: help him understand everything around him, everything in the world.
Speaker 3: I really admire that. I love when people just go
Speaker 3: all in totally, and he doesn't seem to be doing
Speaker 3: that for a performative sense. He is all in that
Speaker 3: world and in his world, and so I think that's
Speaker 3: really cool. What's your ridiculous takeaway.
Speaker 2: Oh mine, Elizabeth, thank you for asking. Is I like,
Speaker 2: how pretty much what you're saying is that you know
Speaker 2: he's going to play ghostwriter and he's like, what can
Speaker 2: ghostwriter teach me about the human condition?
Speaker 3: Right? Like that would just be a paycheck movie. And
Speaker 3: instead he's like, well, someone came up.
Speaker 2: With this, How do I find this soul it's going to.
Speaker 3: In order for it to appeal to the masses, I
Speaker 3: need to tap into what kind of catharsis this is
Speaker 3: going to provide? Because that's what entertainment is, especially television.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they are a TV person.
Speaker 3: He changes everything, you know, I just feel so free.
Speaker 2: I know you have to move for a talkback, you
Speaker 2: still do those?
Speaker 3: I always do.
Speaker 2: Talk Producer D, could you hit us up with the talkback? Wait?
Speaker 5: Wait before we do that, before we wrap up, I
Speaker 5: have one question for both of you.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've gone all this way and you haven't mentioned
Speaker 5: the word Copola.
Speaker 4: Isn't there a connection?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he is a nephew of
Speaker 2: Francis Ford, and uh he is a cousin of Sophia
Speaker 2: and yeah, and also Jason Schwartzman and Roman Coppola and uh,
Speaker 2: yeah is cop and his father's August Coppola. Who was
Speaker 2: the reason why I chose the film school I went to.
Speaker 3: Is Copola Cage in Italian?
Speaker 2: No, he picked that because of Luke Cage, the Marvel
Speaker 2: comic actor. He changed it. He started out acting as
Speaker 2: a Copola and then he changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember there's a film where he's credited.
Speaker 5: So my ridiculous takeaway, thank you both of you for asking,
Speaker 5: is uh, you know, I think it takes that kind
Speaker 5: of a setup of family connections to have the life,
Speaker 5: to allow.
Speaker 4: Yourself to be as weird as Nicholas Cage can.
Speaker 3: Be totally totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But Patricia ar Ketch, he comes from a family
Speaker 2: that is, uh, you know, multi generational actors, but she
Speaker 2: was basically raised in a cultish kind of like alternative
Speaker 2: lifestyle environment, and she has just that same confidence. I
Speaker 2: think it's more so that your parents have to invest
Speaker 2: in you a big story and make you think that
Speaker 2: you're special in being the son of somebody like you
Speaker 2: know that, or being a Coppola invest you in that story.
Speaker 2: So I think you can do it without having to
Speaker 2: actually be a NEPO baby. You just have to give
Speaker 2: them the same sort of start that a NEPO baby
Speaker 2: has in terms of confidence. Obviously, connections help too in
Speaker 2: a place like Hollywood, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all buy that. I mean, or being a cult without.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that also helps just you know, be a
Speaker 2: cult or a Coppola.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So about that talk back.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah about that talk, I've got one. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: warn you on the outset. It's in five parts, so
Speaker 5: like butter.
Speaker 2: Oh God, I led.
Speaker 3: Hi, Elizabeth his Aaron, Hi, Dave.
Speaker 6: Uh So you guys played my talkback and a couple
Speaker 6: episodes ago, I'm the one who had the back surgery.
Speaker 6: Wanted to let you guys know that I'm actually doing better,
Speaker 6: and it's funny. I didn't realize I left you a talkback.
Speaker 6: I thought it was all a dream. So it was
Speaker 6: very interesting for me to hear my talkback. So thank
Speaker 6: you for the well wishes. I really appreciated it. I
Speaker 6: actually wanted to tell you about the dream I had
Speaker 6: while I was under the anesthesia and I was with
Speaker 6: you guys apparently. Full disclaimer, though, I did try to
Speaker 6: pretend to be Elizabeth Dutton for a minute, and I
Speaker 6: tried to do one of her awesome character voices, but
Speaker 6: I could not do it. I tried to be Elizabeth,
Speaker 6: but I just couldn't do it. You're too awesome. So
Speaker 6: in this anesthesia fueled dream, I was kind of somehow
Speaker 6: a part of several different episodes of your podcast, and
Speaker 6: I'm sure you can figure out which ones they were.
Speaker 6: It was very distressing for me because my favorite aliens,
Speaker 6: Elizabeth and Zaren, could not help me write my manifesto.
Speaker 6: You guys were also the only aliens I could trust
Speaker 6: because the rest of the aliens wanted to assassinate the
Speaker 6: president and assassinate Charlie Chaplin, but it was only you
Speaker 6: guys who could save the world with me, apparently, and
Speaker 6: it was all because Cinderella was late and she wouldn't
Speaker 6: write my manifesto. So I honestly have to say I
Speaker 6: love your podcast. Thank you for making it so good,
Speaker 6: because it really did give me a really great trip
Speaker 6: while I was in that hospital. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2: Oh man, we're so glad to hear that you're feeling
Speaker 2: better and that, yes, that we were there for you
Speaker 2: when you need.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that that she's feeling better. But oh my,
Speaker 3: I'd love to digest those incredible I love. It doesn't
Speaker 3: happen in English, it's translation.
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