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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dunton, Zaron Burnett. I have a question for you.

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Speaker 3: You know that's funny. I have a question for you,

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Speaker 3: A question for me. Can I tell you what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous? I Elizabeth, what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you? Okay, So you like the Star Wars?

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Speaker 2: I do have the War and the Stars?

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Speaker 4: Yes you like that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, ghetto the who's your favorite Star Wars character?

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Speaker 2: Let me think about that for a second. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go with yours, Chewbacca.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is my favorite? Going to say Lando cal Worthington,

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Speaker 3: I Loveca. I know, So, Dave, who's your favorite Star

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Speaker 3: Wars character?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go bib for Tuna.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that that's someone in the band.

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Speaker 5: He's one of those people that has like the part

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Speaker 5: of his body, the fleshy part that like wraps.

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Speaker 3: All the way around like a growth right his head.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. A friend of mine did like a fake.

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Speaker 5: It was like I think either Jack Ruby or or

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Speaker 5: Lee Harvey Oswell being assassinated and they put him in

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Speaker 5: with like a really shocked expression, and so he became

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Speaker 5: my favorite.

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Speaker 3: That would now it's my favorite.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I love a good lee Harvey Oswald, you do. So

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Speaker 3: did you guys? Did you guys like Darth Vader?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Actually, yes, probably is my favorite character. You're quite honest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, let's let's face I love villains.

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Speaker 3: So the other part of this is that in our

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Speaker 3: on our website Ridiculous crime dot com, we have a

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Speaker 3: listener survey and we ask people to tell us what

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Speaker 3: their favorite hot sauce. This is true and so favorite

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Speaker 3: sauce Zaren.

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Speaker 2: Zaren Yes, Zaren hot sauce.

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Speaker 3: Spicy Zaren Dave favorite hot sauce.

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Speaker 5: I'll say reds are a E ed or two d's,

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but you can get it at metunic

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Speaker 5: Oyster bar u intunic Rhode Island, among other places.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's mentioned this before.

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Speaker 3: I thanks for asking. I like tiger sauce.

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Speaker 2: What's yours?

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Speaker 3: Tiger sauce? Or that chili crisp Aniwho? So you take

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Speaker 3: your Darth Vader? Yeah, and you add your hot sauce

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Speaker 3: and truffles. Do you guys like truffles of the kind

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Speaker 3: from the Earth?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I hate it, I hate it, hate it. So you

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Speaker 3: take those three things, and you know what you get?

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Speaker 3: Star Wars Dark Side Hot Sauce by Truf h really yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know who you can blame for this, Joanne Oh

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Speaker 3: from Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I won't blame her personally, did she?

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Speaker 3: She seems like a total sweetheart, like a really cool

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Speaker 3: rude dude totally. But she's the one who passed this personally.

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Speaker 3: And the interns came to me with devilish looks in

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Speaker 3: their eyes. It's a dark Side Hot Sauce by Trough

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Speaker 3: combines fiery ghost peppers with the richness of black winter

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Speaker 3: truffles in a mix so alluring that it sure to

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Speaker 3: attempt you to the dark side. It runs anywhere from

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Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand to a million scovilles.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: It's vegan and it's gluten free, so thank god. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean I prefer extra gluten in everything that I consume,

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Speaker 2: Want bacon, grease and everything I consume.

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Speaker 3: It's as tribute to Darth Vader's story and legacy is

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Speaker 3: embodied in a luxurious collectible gift box. Intricate details pay

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Speaker 3: homage to the ominous allure of the Sith Lord, with

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Speaker 3: the Imperial crest boldly emerging from the depths of a

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Speaker 3: smoky veil housed inside Star Wars Dark Side Hot Sauce

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Speaker 3: is bottled in a sleek matte black bottle crowned with

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Speaker 3: a cap inspired by the unmistakable helmet of Darth Vader.

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Speaker 2: I prefer job of the Hut barbecue sauce.

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Speaker 3: Where love's the guy in Spaceball's dark helmet. That's what

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Speaker 3: I always see when I see these things. So you

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 3: Level up your spicy chicken. Two, marinate fire grilled meats. Three,

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Speaker 2: Four take over the galaxy with the power of the store.

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Speaker 3: Burn a hole in your underpant.

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Speaker 5: See you anyway I would use if I were them,

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Speaker 5: I would say, peel a cap, you know, like it's

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Speaker 4: And you got the double entendre.

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Speaker 2: Oh there it is? Yeah, that is good.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you something that I don't love?

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Speaker 2: What don't you love? Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: On this there's a section on the website that says

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Speaker 3: spill the Tea, and it's their faqswh tea. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's generally misused The one that has misused the most

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Speaker 2: Can Can brands just stop trying to use the type

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Speaker 2: of slang and just go back to hokey language.

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Speaker 3: It's not just saying something insultan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if there's a whole thing investigated, everybody, and then

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Speaker 3: stop saying it. Yes, Okay, So yeah, that's that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Okay, back of a dead drop, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just ripped myself in half.

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Speaker 2: You know it's also ridiculous. No, I knew you didn't.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.

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Speaker 3: I don't know nothing.

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Speaker 2: I have a sequel to a Ridiculous Crime story I

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Speaker 2: like that starring Nicholas Cage and Patricia Arquette.

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Speaker 3: Get out of here now, I will not you. You

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Speaker 3: get right on out.

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Speaker 2: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 2: and cons. It's ahlways ninety nine percent murder free a

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Speaker 3: Spicy Oh Elizabeth Zaren Oh Zaren Dutton.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Burnette. This story is a sequel, as I just

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Speaker 2: told you a squeal. Yes, but it's a sequel to

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Speaker 2: my Bob's Big Boy story.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, this is immediate quick right, boom.

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Speaker 2: Working fast in Hollywood to hold the audience.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I read about this one after I told you that one,

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Speaker 2: one too. So here we go Bob's Big Boy too.

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Speaker 2: Boom me all right, Elizabeth, Today I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you a story about Bob's Big Boy. One of my

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Speaker 2: favorite people on the planet, Nicholas Cage.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was the second.

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Speaker 2: No, he's no longer on the planet. In the planet,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's true, Nicholas Cage. Yes, one of my

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Speaker 3: Oh, I had no idea that these are some of

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Speaker 2: I know why I love like weirdos.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're both great weirdos, like honest earnest wardos. Not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't stand performative weirdo.

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Speaker 2: From the jump, I think I'm.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a weirdo.

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Speaker 2: You are a weirdo, thank god. So do you like

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Speaker 2: them both? Do you have any sure you don't have

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Speaker 3: I'm not like you. I don't have a shrine in

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Speaker 2: I gotta do something with all those candles.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a fire hazard.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite partia or cat movie?

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Speaker 3: Why do you do this?

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Speaker 2: Mine's obviously true romance. Every time I've mentioned this before,

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Speaker 3: You ask me these questions, yea, my mind blans like I've.

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Speaker 2: Never watched Who's Patrician?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you. My favorite of her performances was

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Speaker 3: and Order SVU. Oh yes, And I have to make

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Speaker 3: a confession.

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Speaker 2: You watch television.

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Speaker 3: I watch so much television, Like I watch so much

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Speaker 3: television subsceed and I've to lie on you.

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Speaker 2: You really come and clean to I really am.

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Speaker 3: And it's I was going to do this as of

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Speaker 3: what's ridiculous, but I've chickened out. But right now I

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Speaker 2: You are lower the lights.

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Speaker 3: So much television. It is disgusting. I watch a lot.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to tell us? I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I really this was really cleansing and I'm

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Speaker 3: feeling a lot better. But yeah, Patricia Arquette is the

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Speaker 2: Are you really no? Are you really a brunette?

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Speaker 3: I'm My ethnicity is Californian.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know, so I'm just checking. Yeah, wow, you

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well, Patricia Arquette a performance I love. I'll just

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Speaker 2: give you an example. Flirting with Disaster. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: I have cable television, oh my godness, and the streams.

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Speaker 2: Where are you? You're a wire plugger? I am not

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Speaker 3: I am plugged into absolutely every outlet in my home. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, the movie Flirting with Disaster, if you are familiar

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Speaker 2: so his adoptive parents are Mary Tyler Moore and George Sigall.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting, interesting pair, right. I love Mary

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Speaker 2: parents are Lily Tomlin and Alan Alda. No, right, it's semest.

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Speaker 2: And then they're like they play these off the grid

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Speaker 2: And Richard Jenkins if you remember him, he's in it.

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Speaker 2: He plays an ATF agent and at some point he

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Speaker 2: And then Josh Brolin is his partner. I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: but it's this amazing film. No one seems to talk

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Speaker 2: like movies, you like to laugh. Yeah, And of course

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Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't at least just reasily

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Speaker 2: touch upon a couple of Nicholas Cage performances, right, I mean, here,

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Speaker 2: tell me what your favorite Nicholas Cage performance is, m

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Speaker 2: Raising Arizona, Yeah, hi, mcdona, Moonstruck he plays Ronnie the

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Speaker 3: The one where he plays himself with Pedro Pascal.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's actually the answer. I was going to tell

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Speaker 2: I swear to god. He said that, Elizabeth, how amazing

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, but not just any mansion, as Nicholas

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Speaker 2: So anyway, uptop, I was speaking of Ben Stiller going

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Speaker 3: I love that. I don't even know what it is,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, going get me another one of those pickles

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Speaker 3: Now when he says give me a quest, that man

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Speaker 2: So she also she says, you wanted a caddy size

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Speaker 2: So Patricia Arquette, she recalls and I quote. I gave

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Speaker 3: I feel like that would probably be the easiest.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So he purchased a letter that had his

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Speaker 2: Sorry to god, so the love this so much. Big

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Speaker 2: Cage rides up, I'm assuming on a motorcycle. He drops

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Speaker 3: Wait this is These are the greatest people on earth

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Speaker 2: Your girlfriend's gotten stoked on that, right, Okay, So let's

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Speaker 2: what are you thinking so far? You're digging our little and.

439
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 3: Loving this so much. I really am, I really, I'm

440
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 3: loving the image of her playing hopscotch with her friends.

441
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: It's just incredible.

442
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 2: And then her new bow rides out.

443
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he violently passes her a cigar box. Which

444
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 3: cigar boxes are cooler. It's the greatest way to get something.

445
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: Great way to get small, like a letter. Perfect. Okay.

446
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: So day two rolls around, So, just like on day one,

447
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage shows back up a Patricia Arcat's house. He

448
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: rides up on his motorcycle. This time we know for certain.

449
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: And as Nick Cage told Playboy back in nineteen ninety six,

450
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 2: quote she wouldn't come out, but I could see her

451
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: peeking down from the top floor. She confirms his account

452
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: because Patricia Arcutt recalled the same story. She said, quote,

453
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: I peek out the window and there he is with

454
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 2: a purple orchid and a black spray paint can and

455
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: he's spraying it. She'd asked for a black orchid, right,

456
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: but that doesn't exist. You cannot find a black orchid.

457
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: So it's truly as an impossible object. So Nicholas Cage,

458
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't Nicolose Cage thing. He improvised. So, and I quote,

459
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: in my very showy way, I whipped the orchid out

460
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 2: of my pocket. Then I whipped out the paint can

461
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: it started spray painting the orchid black. Then he goes

462
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: and he walks up to the front door of her house.

463
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: I rang the doorbell again and she came down. I

464
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: just gave it to her, and I got back on

465
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: my motorcycle and I left. So once again, doesn't he

466
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: says nothing, just ride to away like that.

467
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 3: He didn't spray it and then bring it over like

468
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: to let her see. Yeah, oh that's so good.

469
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: So Nicholas Cage's uncanny ability to rise to her weirdly

470
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: specific challenges is winning him some points with Patricia Arcuat

471
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: right as she put it, and I quote, I asked

472
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: for a black orchid from the jungles of Peru or

473
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: Brazil or something, and he spray pnded me in orchid.

474
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: It was very romantic. However, he remembers it a little

475
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 2: differently because Nicholas Cage adds she was freaked out. So

476
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: now it's it's day three. She's wondering what to expect

477
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: now on day three, and he's got to be thinking

478
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: of the next item on her list that he can

479
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: get for, probably locally. So I don't know if this

480
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: actually was on day three. I couldn't find that to

481
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: cut for confirmation. But soon enough he contacts her. This

482
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: time he speaks to her right. He calls her and

483
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: he tells her, I almost got the Bob's Big Boy

484
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: last night. But then, as we've covered, he found that

485
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: the Bob's Big Boy statue was chained to its pedestal.

486
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: So Nicholas Cage he has a plan for that, so

487
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: he informs her, I'm gonna go back tonight with the

488
00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: right tools. What are the right tools to Nicholas Cage

489
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: Bob's Big Boy heist? Turns out he was gonna bring

490
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: a chainsaw and just wreck some shop. He's like, cut

491
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: that baby right off. Can you imagine the news story

492
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: that would have come out if he got caught chainsaw

493
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: in hand cutting down to Bob's Big Boy and like Burbank.

494
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: This is like pre internet.

495
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. But even though I mean, if him

496
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: telling the cops like I'm doing this for love, he's

497
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: got the chainsaw and he's cutting down Big Boy.

498
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: Then his agent makes him do the apology interview and people.

499
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: Exactly and an InStyle. So okay. At this point, uh,

500
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: Nick Cage, he tells her about the chainsaw, He tells

501
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: her about the Bob's Big Boy statue in his plans,

502
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: and Patricia Arquette recalls and I quote and then so

503
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: he was like, and you're gonna marry me soon. So

504
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: finally she realizes how far down the road she's traveling

505
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: with him, and she tells Andy Cohen and Shania Twain

506
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: on Andy Cohen's chat show, and I was like, no, man,

507
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: we've never even gone out on a date. Let's slow

508
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: it down. So she has to tell Nick Cage. I

509
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: was like, okay, stop, let's just date maybe and not

510
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 2: get married. So at this point, after hearing all this,

511
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage is willing to slow it down.

512
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: Of course, participating in courtship like in the days of

513
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: oles exactly.

514
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, chivalrous, totally. It's very much one of the great romances.

515
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: You gonna hear the minstrel.

516
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: Playing I Love a Good Quest.

517
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: As Patty Arkatt tells it. Then we dated, right, so

518
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: now we got our cute montage for our rom com

519
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh right. The parent they planned to run away to

520
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: Cuba for their first date.

521
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: Wait, I am so excited because I was thinking, like,

522
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: where would they go on to do?

523
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: Exactly They're going to somewhere with trade relations with America

524
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: or an extradition treaty. So the couple, they only make

525
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: it as far as Mexican.

526
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: They have to dip down.

527
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: Well, apparently the details are hazy, but apparently he went

528
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: full Nicholas Cage in an airport in Mexico. There is

529
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 2: some trouble about their tickets, and then Nicholas Cage had

530
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 2: a full on meltdown and they're like, go back to America.

531
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: It never solves anything, No.

532
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: And it was a bit too much for Patricia ar

533
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: Cat too right, So they returned to America, as she

534
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: told Andy Cohne and Shania Twain. And then when I

535
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: think we broke up, it was just too fast and

536
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: too much for me at that time. I was nineteen, right,

537
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: so well, she saw.

538
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: The red flag, don't see the red flags.

539
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: Ye splashing anger like that. Yeah, major intensity. Anyway, time

540
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: came and erased those unpleasant memories for her. She had

541
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: a change of heart because, as she put it, and

542
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: then many years went by and we were friendly. And

543
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: in March of nineteen ninety five, Nicholas Cage went into

544
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: Canter's Deli. He was about two am. And guess who

545
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: was sitting there all alone? Crispin Glover. No, it was

546
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: Chrispin Glover. I'm going to marry you. Chrispin Glover said

547
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: to him, No, I'm gonna marry you.

548
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: She stood up and said, I can kick.

549
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: So it was Patricia Harkett sitting alone at two am

550
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: in Canters. At this point, she's now twenty seven. Nicholas

551
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: Cage is thirty one, and so he says, Hi, So

552
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: did she? They sit, They chalk, they flirt, they laugh.

553
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: She felt that they had both changed, right, they've grown.

554
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: Patricia Katt also says she spent many years in search

555
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: of quote, an honorable, truthful, brave man. And she recalled

556
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: this man who went on a quest to win her

557
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: hand in marriage, and as she later told The New

558
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: York Times, he was on my mind. I needed to

559
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: be reassured that the depth of his love would be

560
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: as brave as before. And so now a little while later,

561
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: she decided maybe she was wrong about Nicholas Cage. And

562
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: then I called him and I said, okay, I'm ready

563
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: to get married for their second go round. She was

564
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: the one to propose this time, so, as Nicholas Stage

565
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: recalls in an interview with Rolling Stone, and I quote

566
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: when she showed up in my house dressed head to

567
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: toe in black vinyl, carrying a big purple wedding cake.

568
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: I knew I was with the right woman.

569
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: So there were zero dates.

570
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: I'll be the I think they were skipping past that.

571
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 2: There was some days before we got to the all blacks.

572
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: The purple wedding cake.

573
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: Incredible.

574
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

575
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: So she's standing there on his front doorstep and she's

576
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: trying to get out the words like this is how

577
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: I picture it. Like. She's like, I love you, you you

578
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: complete me, and I just Nicholas Cage listening during interrupts

579
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: and puts up a finger, shut up, just shut up.

580
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: You had me at hello.

581
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: I wish I could see that in the movie with

582
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: your boyfriend.

583
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Now that these two young lovers have refound each other,

584
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: proclaim their love and their devotion for each other based

585
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: on what you know of them both. Can you imagine

586
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: the wedding of Nicholas cage of Patricia Arcat?

587
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

588
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: Right, But you don't have to, Elizabeth, because I'd like

589
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: you to close.

590
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: Your eyes are already closed, and i'd like you to

591
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: picture I have already pictured.

592
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Elizabeth. Do you hear that the sound of waves softly

593
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: crashing against the sandy beaches of Carmel, California? Do you

594
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: feel that the sea spray in the midst of the

595
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: shore on your fuzzy face, the warmth of the sunlight

596
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: breaking through the clouds overhead and warming you as you

597
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: bob and float among a celp bed in the Monterey bed. You, Elizabeth,

598
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: are a California Sea God, thank you, and you are

599
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: taking a nap. But your buoyant slumber has disturbed when

600
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: you hear the dulcet engine sound of a Ferrari pull

601
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: up and stop in the gravel. This catches your attention.

602
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: You wipe sleep from your fuzzy eyes and look up

603
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: in the direction of the well engineered car noise. You

604
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: see a blue Ferrari. A man in a dark suit

605
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: gets out the man in the Ferrari are both up

606
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: on a bluff overlooking the Pacific coast. You can see

607
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: them and they can see you. But the man is

608
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: not looking down at the ocean. Instead, he's walking around

609
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: to open the door for his passenger. As you gracefully

610
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: float among the bull kelp, you gaze up at the

611
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: bluff to keep an eye on what these kooky humans

612
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: and the blue Ferrari are doing. A couple other cars

613
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: pull up in part so now you and a few

614
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: other otters, who have also taken note of the party

615
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: of humans, all watch to see what comes next. The

616
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: small party of humans starts to gather on the bluff.

617
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: You don't know this because you're an otter, but one

618
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: of the humans is the former chief of Police of Carmel.

619
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: Another a minister, a lady preacher, Elizabeth. The man in

620
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: the dark suit stands before the lady preacher. Next to

621
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: him stands a woman in a leopard print jacket. The

622
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: couple look happy. You can see their wide smiles from

623
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: where you lays among the kelp. You've never been to

624
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: a human wedding before. This is your first, and it

625
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: is a doozy Welcome to the wedding of Nicholas Cage

626
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: and Patricia Arquette. You and the other sea otters are

627
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: some of the very few witnesses. All in all, the

628
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: wedding seems like a nice affair. This is what their

629
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: love quest has led to. This is the hero's reward.

630
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: The ceremony is short. It lasts a brief ten minutes.

631
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: The couple stands in the sun and the breeze. Their

632
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: love seems so real and so lasting. You find your

633
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: rooting for these two crazy kids as you watch the

634
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: newly pronounced husband and wife climb back into that blue Ferrari.

635
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: The Italian sports car speeds off, headed down the coast

636
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: towards Big Sir, look at you, lucky witness to the

637
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: Patricia Arkhead Nicholas Cage nuptials.

638
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: That was awesome now, it was.

639
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Patricia Arquette told Andy Cohen and Shania Twain quote, we

640
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: hadn't slept together for eight years until our wedding night.

641
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: So after hearing all about their long, strange love affair

642
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: and then their wedding night, Jitters, Shania Twain says, that's

643
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: very romantic, and Patricia Arqutt agrees that was very romantic.

644
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: I thought Shania Twain was going to say that don't impress.

645
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: Me, right, I was so praying for.

646
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: Didn't do it?

647
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Now, after all those years and all this task from

648
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: the aforementioned love quest, these two crazy kids finally found

649
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: a way to make a go of it. For a

650
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: little while. It was intense, it was passionate. Their marriage

651
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: a brightly burning fire, and naturally it burned out, like

652
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: all things which consumed themselves in flames. They were married

653
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Elizabeth in nineteen ninety five, but separated in January of

654
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. They technically remained married on the books

655
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: though for years, finally divorcing in two thousand. Oh wow, yeah,

656
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: so our Kett later would tell Rolling Stone the couple

657
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: separation was due to the fact that quote, his success

658
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: was very scary to me. I couldn't touch him. I mean,

659
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: I would think her reason was that Nicholas Cage was

660
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: absolutely unhinged. She's like, it's his success. I did not

661
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: expect that. So what about after their divorce? Who got

662
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: to keep the JD. Salinger letter? Yeah, that's what Andy

663
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: Cohen and Shania Twain both wanted to know. That was

664
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: their first question. They're like, yeah, what happened with the

665
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Challenger letter. I know anyway, Patricia Arquett says, and I quote,

666
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: I returned that to him. I never thought he'd get it,

667
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: like I think she never thought he'd actually retreat.

668
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: I think she's probably not the kind of collector.

669
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: No, he's the collector about that. So as for Nicholas Cage,

670
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: when he speaks at that time in his life, he

671
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: said of his past self, quote, back then, I was

672
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: living out my fantasies of what I thought an exciting

673
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: man should be. I wanted to be unpredictable and frightening,

674
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: and I guess I was. I mean, Patricia says that

675
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: at the time, I was pure testosterone. I can't really

676
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: imagine myself getting that angry now. I haven't punched a

677
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 2: wall in years, so I don't really know what happened.

678
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean, should I be punching walls? No, Nicholas, you

679
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: should not be punching A wild good way to break

680
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: your hand, in an even better way to scare the

681
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: people who love you. So as for the whirlwind love

682
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: that they felt at the time, Patricia Arquett also said,

683
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: and I quote, there's nothing like creativity and young love.

684
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: That's why we have a species. I don't really hate

685
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: any period of the human experience. I've dealt with a

686
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: lot of death, and loving a lot of people through

687
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: their dying time, and loving other people through their birthing time,

688
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: and being out a lot of births, and being young

689
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: and beautiful and not even understanding that, and then getting

690
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: older and becoming invisible for a period of time, and

691
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: then loving that and getting wiser and knowing which battles

692
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: to fight. I'm really loving this whole, painful, joyful ride

693
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: of life. I think you have to have that attitude

694
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: if you want to go in any relationship with age. Yeah,

695
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: but in general. But I'm saying, but he's really going

696
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: to test you. But if you have this in life,

697
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: you're golden.

698
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

699
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: So after their time together and they went their separate ways,

700
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Nicholas Kate continued Elizabeth with his quests, and he even

701
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: managed to get into legal trouble again, only this time

702
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: what he ended up with ilegally was far more valuable.

703
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: Well then a Bob's big boy statue.

704
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: We'll be back such a thing.

705
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I swear We'll be right back. With Nicholas

706
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: Cage's other illegal quests. After these bright messages and we're back, Elizabeth,

707
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: You're back, I know right? Ready for one more? Nicholas

708
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Cage quest Always in two thousand and seven, there was

709
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: a dinosaur skull for sale at an auction you y

710
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: I have? It was a Torontosaurus bitar, which is like

711
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: a kissing cousin of a Torontosaurus rex. The enormous Torontosaurus

712
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: dinosaur skull was billed as quote perfect for a New

713
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: York City apartment.

714
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: Wait by whom?

715
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: An auction house? Yeah?

716
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: Can you imagine you work at this auction hus and

717
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: you have to write the copy.

718
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: For the catalog perfect for a New York City of park.

719
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: How am I going to describe this on rock? Bigger

720
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: than a bread box?

721
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: Shoot?

722
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: No, that's not going to work.

723
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Draft eight goes well with a gogin No starting bid

724
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: one hundred grand?

725
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: Wow?

726
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. There were three hundred and forty five items for

727
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: sale in this auction. According to the New York Times,

728
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: the list of items up forbidding included and I quote

729
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: an Egyptian mummy's hand, a person's hand, Elizabeth.

730
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: A whole hand?

731
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: Horrible all right?

732
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: Next, a lion, hyena and warthog skulls followed by a

733
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 2: gold nugget weighing sixty two troy ounces and behind glass

734
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: but touchable on request, crystals, minerals, and a meteorite from Mars,

735
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: But the bell of the ball was the Torontosaurus batar skull.

736
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: As The New York Times reported quote, The skull, estimated

737
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: to be about sixty seven million years old, is thirty

738
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: two inches long and sixty five sent complete, with the

739
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: rest of it, including the lower right jaw in the

740
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: back of the skull, having been restored with casts, said

741
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: David Hrskowitz, the director of the Gallery's Natural History department.

742
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: Was it legally, like I've talked about this.

743
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Now you might wonder was this legally obtained?

744
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: And that's a good question. I think you know the answer. Yeah,

745
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: I think so, Herskowitz. He said he come into possession

746
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: of this specimen last summer. He's like, I got it

747
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: last summer. It's cool, man, I just recently got this.

748
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to move in. Collector in Florida had

749
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: apparently contacted them with the rare find Why Florida because

750
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: it clearly wasn't found there, right, So I went, does

751
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Florida come into it? Well, turns out, as the batar

752
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: might indicate, the skull was located in Mongolian bitar, right,

753
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: so excavated there and it wasn't fully freed from the rocks.

754
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: So according to the Florida collector, he purchased this Trontosaurus

755
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: skull from a Japanese collector. You don't know him. He

756
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: goes to different school, and he kept the skull in

757
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: a block of unhewn rock, and he'd put the dinosaur

758
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: head in a display box back in like the nineteen sixties.

759
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: And eventually sells this to the Florida collector, who and

760
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: then turns sells it to the auction house, who and

761
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: then turns it sells it to an unknown buyer.

762
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: Interesting to the alleged probanance, I thought it was with Florida.

763
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm imagining it's like South Florida. I thought it would

764
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: be like a Russian oligar.

765
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I cannot tell you who the person is,

766
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're a rausianal oligar. But anyway,

767
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: I wish I could had that information for you. Ay,

768
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: let's pretend they were. So the torontosaurs buitar skull was

769
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: put up on the auction block. It was the subject

770
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: of a rather mighty fight amongst bidders. Sure was finally

771
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: sold to quote a bit of two hundred and seventy

772
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: six thousand dollars phoned in by a private collector on

773
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: the West coast from the gallery would not identify the skull.

774
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: This skull was the big ticket sale of the auction. Elizabeth.

775
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: This is supposed to be for a New York apartment.

776
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: The same mystery bidder also one quote a rare giant

777
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: wolf skull from the Rancho Librea formation. Sale price fifty

778
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So this mystery buyer, they've dropped three hundred

779
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: and twenty six thousand dollars and a dinosaur skull and

780
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: a wolf skull. It's long than alleged. The big loser

781
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: that day was Leonardo DiCaprio. He was bidding on this

782
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: Torontosaurus bitar skull and he ultimately lost out to Nicholas Cave.

783
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: You know where the big loser was that day? Science?

784
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: A lot of people said that, a lot of people

785
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: said that, yes, curatorial process. Yeah, So of course it

786
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: was Nick Cage who wanted a rare dino head and

787
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: a prehistoric wolf skull and was willing to drop more

788
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: than a quarter million dollars to get it. Now, it

789
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: kind of makes perfect sense because he was buying all

790
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: this real estate at the time. Remember he had the

791
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: two castles, and I'm sure if you you know, if

792
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: you buy two castles, right, you show up and all

793
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like let's say it's an impulse purchase, right,

794
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: and then you get the keys to your new castle

795
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: or new two U castle, and you walk in you realize,

796
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: oh my god, they took away all this stuff for like, yeah,

797
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: the staging my castle, the Knight's armor, Yeah, you got it,

798
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, phill up a whole castle

799
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: with of course, you're like, I need a dinosaur skull.

800
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably need a wolf scull, and I'm in the.

801
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: Guess there's not a home goods within one hundred miles.

802
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: Probably not. It turns out Leonardo DiCaprio got lucky by

803
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: losing out on that day because the plot thickens Elizabeth

804
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: that torontosaur's skull was shady. The Florida collector was a

805
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: big time liar, in fact, a scammer of bones and

806
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: other artifacts. Twenty fourteen, seven years after he bought himself

807
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: that torontosaurus skull. The Department of Homeland Security came to

808
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage's home. They're like, hey, we haven't been here

809
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: in a little while now, they formed him. But the

810
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: artifact he bought was in fact illegal, and in short,

811
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: the dinosaur skull was stolen goods, and that it had

812
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: been taken from the Gobi Desert in Mongolia, and the

813
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: FEDS would be taking it from him and returning it

814
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: to Mongolia, which they.

815
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: Getting terrorism by buying it.

816
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see any allegations of that. Yeah, but boom,

817
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 2: now Nicholas Cage has to cough up his quarter million

818
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: dollar dinosaur skull to the Feds. He does. When he

819
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: was later asked about this and about you know, what's

820
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: it feel like to lose two hundred and seventy six

821
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for something that you that's like a weird

822
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: purchase from a seemingly legitimate auction house, he said, in

823
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: the most Nicholas Cage way possible, what is an octopus?

824
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Eighty dollars? You're not gonna go into dire streets buying

825
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: an octopus. The dinosaur skull was an unfortunate thing. Because

826
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: I did spend two hundred and seventy six thousand dollars

827
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: on that. I bought it at a legitimate auction and

828
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: found out it was abducted from Mongolia illegally, and then

829
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: I had to give it back. Of course it should

830
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: be awarded to its country of origin, but who knew.

831
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Plus I never got my money back, so that stank.

832
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: But I went years where all I was doing was

833
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: meditating three times a day and reading books on philosophy,

834
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: not drinking whatsoever. There was the time when I almost

835
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: went on you might call it a grail quest. I

836
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: started following mythology and I was finding properties that align

837
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: with that. It was almost like national treasure. So Nicholas Cage,

838
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: he's now fusing fact with fiction, life with movies. He's

839
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: living out national treasure in his own life and freely

840
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: admitting it. This is what I'm talking about. This is

841
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: why this man is amazing. He's just living out his movies.

842
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Our parts anyway. So even of course has to admit

843
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: that buying up all the real estate purchases is really

844
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: what nearly bankrupted him. Not the dinosaur. He's like two

845
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: hundred seventy six thousand dollars versus millions of dollars from

846
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: my castle, no one wants to buy.

847
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: In his mind, he got two hundred and seventy six

848
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: thousand dollars totally pleasure.

849
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he says, of course that didn't sustain. On

850
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: top of which I said, I'm going to get off

851
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: philosophy because I became like a kite with a string

852
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: but no anchor. No one could understand what I was

853
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: talking about. And I thought people would rather see me

854
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: as an orangutan than as an eagle meditating on the mountaintop. Anyway,

855
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: that makes sense to me totally. Right now, I would

856
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: like not to just skip past the meditating eagle on

857
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: the mountaintop versus the orangutan mistaken for Nicholas Cage. But

858
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: let's focus on how his collecting and his acting had

859
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: already somewhat merged in terms of their value to the

860
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: living process we know as Nicholas Cage. So, in a

861
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen interview with The New York Times, Nicholas Cage

862
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: tells his interviewer, and I quote, you either have the

863
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: pro livity'd open up your imagination or you don't. If

864
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: you have that propensity and are on camera about to

865
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: do a scene. What would make you believe in what

866
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: you were about to do? So you're playing a demon

867
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Speaker 2: biker with an ancient spirit. What power objects could you

868
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Speaker 2: find that might trick your imagination? Would you find an

869
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Speaker 2: antique from an ancient pyramid, maybe a little sarcophagus that's

870
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Speaker 2: a greenish color and looks like King Tutt? Would you

871
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Speaker 2: sow that into your jacket and know that it's right

872
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Speaker 2: next to you? When the director says action, could you

873
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Speaker 2: open yourself up to that power? Those aren't rhetorical questions,

874
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Speaker 2: are they. That's what the interviewer asked, right, I did that. Yes. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you're at that point where you've looted antiques from

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Speaker 2: an ancient pyramid and sown them into your pocket so

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Speaker 2: you can do better at your job, you are truly

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Speaker 2: open to the universe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right. In the movie Mandy, he has this ad libed

881
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: line and he quotes to his interviewer about the line.

882
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Speaker 2: He mentions it. He says, the psychotic drowns were the

883
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: mystic swims. Now that line actually is from Joseph Campbell,

884
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Speaker 2: and the original line is the psychotic drowns in the

885
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: same waters in which the mystic swims with delight, and

886
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Speaker 2: that's how he ended up buying his real estate portfolio.

887
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: He was swimming with delight in his two castles in

888
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Speaker 2: the Rhode Island Woods and in Las Vegas and La

889
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Speaker 2: and elsewhere. His Times interviewer says, oh, okay, I thought

890
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Speaker 2: you were being metaphorical about going on a Grail quest.

891
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: And then Nicholas Cage, apropos of nothing, says, yeah, if

892
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Speaker 2: you go to Glastonbury and go to the Chalice Wall,

893
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Speaker 2: there's a spring that does taste like blood. So apparently

894
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Speaker 2: at the Chalice Wall in Glastonbury. I've never been there,

895
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Speaker 2: but the story goes, Joseph of Arimathea secreted away the

896
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Speaker 2: Holy Grail, which is what makes the spring taste like blood. Yeah,

897
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Speaker 2: or it could just be an iron ore deposit that

898
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Speaker 2: gives it an iron taste, but hey, who am I

899
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Speaker 2: to say anyway? Following that same logic, Nicholas Cage tells

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Speaker 2: his interviewer that's the reason why he bought property in

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Speaker 2: Rhode Island. Who was chasing Grail legends or well? He said,

902
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Speaker 2: and I quote, I don't know if I'm going to

903
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Speaker 2: say that's why I bought the Rhode Island property. But

904
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Speaker 2: I will say that is why I went to Rhode Island,

905
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Speaker 2: and I happened to find the place beautiful. But yes,

906
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Speaker 2: this has put me on a search around different areas,

907
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Speaker 2: mostly in England, but also someplace in the States. What

908
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: I ultimately found is what is the grail? But earth itself?

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Speaker 3: A producer Dave, are you familiar with any Rhode Island

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Speaker 3: holy grail lore?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean, we've got what's his name,

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Speaker 5: the sci fi writer who's buried in Swan Point Cemetery.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Hp Lovecraft.

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Speaker 5: Right, we've got Edgar Allan Poe drinking himself to death

916
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Speaker 5: courting Sarah Haln Whitman on Benefit Street.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any grail lore in Rhode Island.

918
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Speaker 3: That's strange. Yeah, so apparently he's the one who uncovered it.

919
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Speaker 2: The Grail is hidden in Rhode Island or maybe anyway.

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Speaker 2: The Times interview stays on him about this, and he's

921
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Speaker 2: kind of disappointed that Nicholas Cage was spending his time

922
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Speaker 2: literally chasing after the Grail, like he's like a movie hero,

923
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Speaker 2: and the reporter says, I find the grail quest tend

924
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Speaker 2: to be more fulfilling when they're metaphorical. And this is

925
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Speaker 2: why why I love Nicholas Cage, he tells this cat, Well,

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Speaker 2: I knew that, and the metaphor for me is the Earth.

927
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Speaker 2: The divine object is Earth. Like that I thought you would,

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Speaker 2: So there it is, Elizabeth. Nicholas Cage went under request

929
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Speaker 2: and he found it planet Earth, and it was good.

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Speaker 2: But I love this questing mofo. I mean, I already

931
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Speaker 2: liked and respected and loved Nicholas Cage, but the story

932
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Speaker 2: of him stealing of Bob's Big Boy to win Patricia

933
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Speaker 2: Arquet's heart, and him buying a stolen dinosaur skull that

934
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Speaker 2: would inadvertently lead him to chase after the Holy Grail,

935
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Speaker 2: and then for him to find the whole Earth as

936
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Speaker 2: his reward, I mean, come on, I love this cash.

937
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: So anyway, he props up to our Bruce Lee of

938
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: being intense, the evil Canievil, of acting the Liberachi of lovers.

939
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Speaker 2: What's a ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: I am so admiring the intensity. And I normally don't

941
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Speaker 3: like people.

942
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: I have to tune it down around you.

943
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Speaker 3: You do, and thank you, but no, I just I

944
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Speaker 3: usually don't care for that. But it's so intentional and pure,

945
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Speaker 3: and he takes he's talking about roles that most actors

946
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Speaker 3: would do as a paycheck and maybe not take it

947
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Speaker 3: so seriously and get into character in some sense. But

948
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Speaker 3: he's so invested in, like not just getting into a

949
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: character and the motivations and all of that, but to

950
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Speaker 3: truly understand this, this creation, and then how it's gonna

951
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: help him understand everything around him, everything in the world.

952
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Speaker 3: I really admire that. I love when people just go

953
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Speaker 3: all in totally, and he doesn't seem to be doing

954
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Speaker 3: that for a performative sense. He is all in that

955
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Speaker 3: world and in his world, and so I think that's

956
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Speaker 3: really cool. What's your ridiculous takeaway.

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Speaker 2: Oh mine, Elizabeth, thank you for asking. Is I like,

958
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Speaker 2: how pretty much what you're saying is that you know

959
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: he's going to play ghostwriter and he's like, what can

960
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: ghostwriter teach me about the human condition?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like that would just be a paycheck movie. And

962
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Speaker 3: instead he's like, well, someone came up.

963
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Speaker 2: With this, How do I find this soul it's going to.

964
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Speaker 3: In order for it to appeal to the masses, I

965
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: need to tap into what kind of catharsis this is

966
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Speaker 3: going to provide? Because that's what entertainment is, especially television.

967
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Speaker 2: I can't believe they are a TV person.

968
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Speaker 3: He changes everything, you know, I just feel so free.

969
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Speaker 2: I know you have to move for a talkback, you

970
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Speaker 2: still do those?

971
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Speaker 3: I always do.

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Speaker 2: Talk Producer D, could you hit us up with the talkback? Wait?

973
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Speaker 5: Wait before we do that, before we wrap up, I

974
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Speaker 5: have one question for both of you.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

976
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've gone all this way and you haven't mentioned

977
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 5: the word Copola.

978
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: Isn't there a connection?

979
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he is a nephew of

980
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: Francis Ford, and uh he is a cousin of Sophia

981
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: and yeah, and also Jason Schwartzman and Roman Coppola and uh,

982
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: yeah is cop and his father's August Coppola. Who was

983
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: the reason why I chose the film school I went to.

984
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: Is Copola Cage in Italian?

985
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: No, he picked that because of Luke Cage, the Marvel

986
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: comic actor. He changed it. He started out acting as

987
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: a Copola and then he changed.

988
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember there's a film where he's credited.

989
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 5: So my ridiculous takeaway, thank you both of you for asking,

990
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 5: is uh, you know, I think it takes that kind

991
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 5: of a setup of family connections to have the life,

992
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 5: to allow.

993
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 4: Yourself to be as weird as Nicholas Cage can.

994
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Be totally totally.

995
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. But Patricia ar Ketch, he comes from a family

996
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: that is, uh, you know, multi generational actors, but she

997
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: was basically raised in a cultish kind of like alternative

998
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: lifestyle environment, and she has just that same confidence. I

999
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: think it's more so that your parents have to invest

1000
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: in you a big story and make you think that

1001
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: you're special in being the son of somebody like you

1002
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: know that, or being a Coppola invest you in that story.

1003
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: So I think you can do it without having to

1004
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: actually be a NEPO baby. You just have to give

1005
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: them the same sort of start that a NEPO baby

1006
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: has in terms of confidence. Obviously, connections help too in

1007
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: a place like Hollywood, but.

1008
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, all buy that. I mean, or being a cult without.

1009
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that also helps just you know, be a

1010
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: cult or a Coppola.

1011
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

1012
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: So about that talk back.

1013
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah about that talk, I've got one. I'm gonna

1014
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: warn you on the outset. It's in five parts, so

1015
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 5: like butter.

1016
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: Oh God, I led.

1017
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: Hi, Elizabeth his Aaron, Hi, Dave.

1018
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 6: Uh So you guys played my talkback and a couple

1019
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 6: episodes ago, I'm the one who had the back surgery.

1020
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Speaker 6: Wanted to let you guys know that I'm actually doing better,

1021
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Speaker 6: and it's funny. I didn't realize I left you a talkback.

1022
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Speaker 6: I thought it was all a dream. So it was

1023
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Speaker 6: very interesting for me to hear my talkback. So thank

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Speaker 6: you for the well wishes. I really appreciated it. I

1025
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Speaker 6: actually wanted to tell you about the dream I had

1026
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Speaker 6: while I was under the anesthesia and I was with

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Speaker 6: you guys apparently. Full disclaimer, though, I did try to

1028
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Speaker 6: pretend to be Elizabeth Dutton for a minute, and I

1029
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Speaker 6: tried to do one of her awesome character voices, but

1030
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Speaker 6: I could not do it. I tried to be Elizabeth,

1031
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Speaker 6: but I just couldn't do it. You're too awesome. So

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Speaker 6: in this anesthesia fueled dream, I was kind of somehow

1033
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Speaker 6: a part of several different episodes of your podcast, and

1034
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Speaker 6: I'm sure you can figure out which ones they were.

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Speaker 6: It was very distressing for me because my favorite aliens,

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Speaker 6: Elizabeth and Zaren, could not help me write my manifesto.

1037
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Speaker 6: You guys were also the only aliens I could trust

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Speaker 6: because the rest of the aliens wanted to assassinate the

1039
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Speaker 6: president and assassinate Charlie Chaplin, but it was only you

1040
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Speaker 6: guys who could save the world with me, apparently, and

1041
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Speaker 6: it was all because Cinderella was late and she wouldn't

1042
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Speaker 6: write my manifesto. So I honestly have to say I

1043
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Speaker 6: love your podcast. Thank you for making it so good,

1044
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Speaker 6: because it really did give me a really great trip

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Speaker 6: while I was in that hospital. Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: better and that, yes, that we were there for you

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Speaker 2: It's just a name, right, yeah, okay, it's also the

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Speaker 2: can find us online Ridiculous Crime on the social media

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