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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two sixty two,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Daily Hi Guys Stay, production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: November eight two. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.

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Speaker 1: I'm from everywhere. Man, I'm from everywhere. Man, I lived

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Speaker 1: over there. Man's many different state fairs, man moving, I've

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Speaker 1: had my share, Man, I'm from everywhere. I'm from Eugene,

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, Dayton, Philadelphia, Jersey, NSC College in d C, Boston, Missoury, Lexington, Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Also Lexington, mass New Yorktown, Pikes l A County. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I could keep going and going. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Johnny Davis for the I've been everywhere, Jenny Cash

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Speaker 1: a K. Appreciate you, and I am thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joy today by a very special guest co host, the

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Speaker 1: producer behind shows like Fake Doctor's Real Friends and Wantsome

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Speaker 1: to our show. You've heard her on Pop Culture Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: the Comic Combat a pot. It's the brilliant, the talented

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Speaker 1: Joel Monique. So good to be back. How are you, Jack,

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Speaker 1: I'm great, great, it's great, too great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: And rainy Los Angeles, rainy cold Los Angeles. You're loving it.

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Speaker 1: We have weather. I get to wear my little cozy coat,

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Speaker 1: little fur lined coat. Yes it is real for oh no,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. It's real sweatshirt interior, the real sweatshirt.

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Speaker 1: And but it's it's great to have you. It is.

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Speaker 1: It is nice to have a little seasonal weather here.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm hearing from all our friends across this

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Speaker 1: great country that it's unseasonably just everything seasonably cold and

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Speaker 1: and our guests can tell us a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by a very talented podcaster from the Next Up Initiative

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Speaker 1: and soon to be a member of our team, your team.

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Speaker 1: She was formerly a trained esthetician, but since completing the program,

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Speaker 1: has moved to podcasting full time, posting an I heart

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Speaker 1: show called Beauty Translated, which is a brilliant, wonderful show

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Speaker 1: all about celebrating the trans experience. Please welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, Carmen Laure. How are you doing doing well?

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Speaker 1: As you said, it is unseasonably warm here, unseasonably everything.

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't want to turn the air conditioning

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna beer through it. Yeah, it's it's so

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Speaker 1: cold in Los Angeles. I think I think it's like

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Speaker 1: in the in the dang fifties. I just like to

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Speaker 1: throw that in there to enrage, enrage everybody around the

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Speaker 1: country who I think like unseasonably warm weather in New

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Speaker 1: we are going to get to know you a little

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Speaker 1: bit better in a moment, Carmen. First, we're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: It is election day. Nobody knows anything. When you hear this,

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Speaker 1: nobody will know anything as of yet. It's just time

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Speaker 1: to get out and vote if you haven't done the

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Speaker 1: mail in voting early. But we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: how little, how how little of an idea anybody has

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Speaker 1: of this, and why that seems to be a trend

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Speaker 1: that is doubling down. It was like after after, I

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Speaker 1: think people are like, oh, well, they'll just correct for that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll just they'll they they saw a mistake

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Speaker 1: that they made, and they'll they'll figure it out, and

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Speaker 1: now the polls will be accurate again. And then it

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Speaker 1: happened again in the last midterm polls were somewhat accurate.

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Speaker 1: So that's at least one piece of solace for pole watchers.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time that also just fux you

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Speaker 1: why if Republicans win, it's very bad and therefore everybody

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Speaker 1: who is not voting Republicans should get the funk out

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Speaker 1: and vote. I do want to I do want to

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Speaker 1: talk about Ellen Musk. I know, I know, it's we

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Speaker 1: can do it, we can do it. It's it's really

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Speaker 1: been like watching someone talk shit about an NBA player,

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Speaker 1: like he's like trying to make it he owns a

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Speaker 1: it's funny that like the first thing of being like,

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Speaker 1: we'll pay for your verification, which is the onlyest thing

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Speaker 1: and that definitely has an impact on the circulation of

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Speaker 1: that tweet, etcetera. But its initial founding was just to

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Speaker 1: person you think you're talking to. That was the point

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Speaker 1: of the blue check. Yeah, this is William Shatt exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So it's a for safety, right because you know that's

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Speaker 1: some actor who Now, of course I can't remember recently

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Speaker 1: these parents were like, Hey, you're talking to my kid,

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Speaker 1: and now they're missing what's going on. He's like, I started, God,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking to your kid. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: his name to like room children. That's fine, Yeah, fine,

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Speaker 1: And so he makes a really good point for like

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Speaker 1: why we need to blue checkmark, but also when you

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Speaker 1: have people paid for it, the all the other things

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Speaker 1: do like, have you seen how people are sort of retaliating? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and have you seen how he's retaliating. Well, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into it, but he's just straight up forgotten everything he

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Speaker 1: was saying about, like, comedy is back on Twitter, comedy

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a movie called Wendell and Wild,

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Speaker 1: which you might not have heard of, and that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: So we'll we'll talk about that. Joel, you saw it

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Speaker 1: at tiff. You're gonna give us the inside track all

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Speaker 1: of that plenty more. But first, Carmen, we do like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, what I've been searching is Pokemon Scarlet

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Speaker 1: and Violet weeks. Yes, so the game the game weeked

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Speaker 1: last night and that means like somebody got an early

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Speaker 1: just for new updates to see new Pokemon. So what

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Speaker 1: Cute this overload it. So when a new Pokemon game

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Speaker 1: in this generation, they're doing this like whole future and

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Speaker 1: when I get my bike and I can just ride

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Speaker 1: around through a field catching things. It's just it's so simple,

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Speaker 1: really appreciate come on being there for us. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the game comes out in like two weeks, so it's

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Speaker 1: He could teach you the game. You just play it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's coming. I'll I'll be I'll be studied

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Speaker 1: Or maybe I won't, maybe they'll just go in a

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Speaker 1: the Pokemon costumes by name, like they you know, I

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Speaker 1: was originally from Daily beast. But posters have quote, no

422
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Speaker 1: fucking idea what's going to happen this election, And it

423
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: really seems like posters have been pretty much out to

424
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: see since Trump won. And I think there was a

425
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: theory of the case that they would take that initial

426
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: like disastrous Trump win in and like somehow fixed the model.

427
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: But the win in and them being you know, off,

428
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: like just fully off in the opposite direction, except for

429
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: Nate Silver, who like was saying there's a bigger chance

430
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: of Trump winning than like people are giving it credit

431
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: ahead of ahead of the thing. I do think that's

432
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: worth saying, because I don't know. He's full of ship

433
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. But that was one thing

434
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: that I think people misremember as because almost all polsters

435
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: were saying that Trump was had no chance in hell

436
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: of winning. That he was also in there, but he's

437
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: been pretty frank. A handful of other polsters have been like, Yeah,

438
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: the the issue is nobody talks to us anymore, like

439
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: on either side, like we used to do pulling by

440
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: landlines and those don't exist anymore for the most part. Yeah,

441
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: if I hear an automated voice or even a voice,

442
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know it is an immediate hang up, like

443
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm not picking up unknown numbers on the off chance

444
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: I accidentally do. I don't know if his voice on

445
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: the other day end of that line, You need to

446
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: leave me a message and I'll call you back at

447
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: my convenience. What can I ask as an ignorant person,

448
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: do we need poster? We're gonna find out results anyway.

449
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: What is the advantage to having people be like this

450
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: will be the results because there's money to be made,

451
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: there's no advantage to us. It is the mainstream media

452
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: in America's massive bias towards whatever is profitable and can

453
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: make money, and it can like it's extra resistant strain

454
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: because the people who are polsters and consultants who all

455
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: like work together are also like very similar to the

456
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: people that like mainstream media journalists like went to Cornell

457
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: with and ship like that. You know, like they're they're

458
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: all like in that same world where they like all

459
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: pay attention to and care about the same stuff. And

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00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: in in a system that was operating like optimally, this

461
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: just wouldn't they would have had this conversation and then like, yeah,

462
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: we aren't getting this right anymore, so we should like

463
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: figure out a different system, but because there's so much appetite,

464
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: like all the all the headlines are still about what

465
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: polls are saying ahead of this midterm election because we're curious.

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00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to be looking at the fucking polls tomorrow

467
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm just telling you I shouldn't be, but

468
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: like I'm going to at least like glance at them

469
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: and have them affect how I feel, like you know,

470
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: like like I'm I'm gonna do my best, but I

471
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: just I know that I'll have a moment of weakness

472
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: to be like where I'm like, let's just like see

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00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: what people are saying, but courage everyone to just wait

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00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: until their results are in. Like especially if there hasn't

475
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: been any adjustment that we can see from last time,

476
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna get burned so bad. Yeah, and there has

477
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: been the only adjustment there's been since last time is,

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Speaker 1: first of all, pollsters seem to be more more honest

479
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: this time, because they're like really and to aating that

480
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: they're going to suck it up. That's like a team

481
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: ahead of the super Bowl just being like yeah, I

482
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: don't know, like my legs hurt. It's like it could

483
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: go really badly here ahead of ahead of this thing,

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00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: Nate Cone, You're only allowed to be a polster if

485
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: your name is Nate apparently, but Nate Cone mentioned in

486
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: one of his like poll result things that it took

487
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: him two hours of dialing just to complete one in interview.

488
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: So that's the conversion rate of their time. Oh and

489
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: the only thing they're doing is phone calls to landlines. Yeah,

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00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: they have other strategies, but they just don't work as much.

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00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: And they can't tell because their new strategies, they can't

492
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: tell how biased they are in one direction versus another.

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00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Because people eliminated spaces, it's not like you can even

494
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: go to them all anymore. And hope. Yeah, a wide

495
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: sample size. Everything's like an echo chamber basically coupposed to

496
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: like truth social and course you know what the results

497
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: are going to be. New strategy, go to social media,

498
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: set up a poll, see what happens. Who are you voting?

499
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Topical vote on social media, and see if you can

500
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: get a better reaction. I bet if you used it

501
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: with like I'll be add technology they have out there

502
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: to like get into specific demographics. If you set up

503
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: a poll using that technology, I bet you could get

504
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: better results than phone calls because there's no personal person interaction.

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00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: They're trying everything. They had a phone call come in

506
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: where I think they were nagging me into like doing

507
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: a poll for them, because it was like there was

508
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: some silence. It wasn't it wasn't a spam likely number.

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00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: So I always picked those up because it could be

510
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: like some like the play my kids are in or something,

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00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, like there's just like so many numbers that like,

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00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: I just have so much to deal with. Yeah, you

513
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: have to answer. You have to answer one unknown number

514
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: is called just because you don't know like what it's

515
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: going to be. And there was like a little bit

516
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: of silence and then it sounded like real person. He

517
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, this is uh like councilman like said

518
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: said some name. Then he was like are you there?

519
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Actually all right, I can't hear you.

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00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna call back, and then like hung

521
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: up on me, And I was like, what is this strategy? Like,

522
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: was it just so I would hear their name? Is

523
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: like very very strange. Yeah, I just didn't answer when

524
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: he called me back, But as you wouldn't because what

525
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: was I just want to be like you, we haven't

526
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: liked phones for such a long time, Like we turned

527
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: our phone into being anything other than a phone. I pivot, guys,

528
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: it's time. It's but there's nothing good to pivot too.

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00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I think is there is the conclusion of a lot

530
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: of these articles. The thing that the Republican Party has

531
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: pivoted to is white supremacy and aggressively going after the

532
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: voters who showed that they exist and don't show up

533
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: in polls in the presidential elections. The Democratic Party is

534
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: like they so addicted to this, like mainstream media pulling

535
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: consultant industrial complex like that they I think it really

536
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: is like a big part of what is going to

537
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: make this court that the Democratic Party is on difficult

538
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: to sustain is that like they're just they can't get

539
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: away from it. Even as the pollsters are saying on

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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: the front dage of the fucking paper the day like

541
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: on election day, Ay, we don't know ship that like

542
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: that's just where we're at. I think they that they

543
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: were doing great when the people who voted were like that,

544
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: like read their papers. Like Nate Silver I think called

545
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: everything within like almost every county in America correctly in

546
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: the election but that was when the Republican Party was

547
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: also choosing its candidate based on who polsters thought would

548
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: be good and like, so it was like Mitt Romney,

549
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was like somebody who was

550
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: like it was somebody who appealed to like nobody. But

551
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: remember it wasn't that much difference between the Republican and

552
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and it was always just two random white

553
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: dudes who were like very milk toast and we were like,

554
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: I guess that one, oh man, what are time to

555
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: be alive? But yeah, they used to just like go

556
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: pick the candidate that would appeal to like Republicans who

557
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: read newspapers, and now they've just like abandoned that. And

558
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I think it's probably time for the Democrats to at

559
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: least stop listening to these same consultants and come up

560
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: with a new strategy, because the polsters are here and

561
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: they're telling you that it's this is not it like

562
00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: we we don't know shit profitable. It's very profitable out Yeah,

563
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's that people want to know what's going

564
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: to happen. I love writing my friends checks to I

565
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I do think there should be a

566
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: like like the way the way that this happens in

567
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: sports is well. I guess there's also like a very

568
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: dumb like sports industrial complex, sports media industrial complex where

569
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: like one person gets on it is like this team

570
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: is gonna win, and if you say they're not, you're

571
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: an idiot, and then the other. But like in terms

572
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: of the scientific like looking into who's going to win,

573
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: like it's betting markets that people and and those are

574
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: pretty they're not always right, but they do a decent

575
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: job because it's actually you know, people with some expertise,

576
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: like putting money behind it and able to make track

577
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: of all of those stats. Like it's gonna be much

578
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: easier to do, you know, I know, like from this

579
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Speaker 1: line he chooses this percentage and this make free throws, etcetera.

580
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: As opposed to like the constantly shifting demographics of the

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: American voting populace. Yeah, that's true. I guess that if

582
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: there's money to be made, like maybe they'll find ways

583
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: to better like predict elections because that's just how America operates.

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: By the way, while we're reading method, I'm getting telemarketer

585
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: phone call, leave him alone, telemarketing. But they know because

586
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: I answered those random calls from like the kids school

587
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: or the kids teachers. We can get this guy. Yeah,

588
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: this guy's a They probably have me on like some

589
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: list that's like parents learned to answer any Yeah, all right,

590
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk

591
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: elon Musk and we're back, and yeah, I don't know.

592
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: It's gone from being like, ah, this is bad. He

593
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: this person who just bought Twitter has some weird beliefs,

594
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: and I suspect he might be incompetent, But it's it is.

595
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: It really is like watching somebody who's never thought about

596
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: how to do this particular job take over the job

597
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: and just get fucking owned repeatedly in public, just over

598
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: and over and in a way that I like, can't

599
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: possibly be part of some strategy, Like I know that

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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: very Wood, Yeah they really would, like I don't know,

601
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Like he has so many stands the same way I

602
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: I kind of lump Ela, Musk, Trump and Kanye into

603
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: a like category of people who are taking advantage of

604
00:37:54,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: this strange like civilizational structure we currently have with social media,

605
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: where you know, toxic narcissism becomes like steroids to be

606
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: just the most dominant personality in the world. And it's

607
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: good at capturing like the hearts and minds of some

608
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: very lonely people. It just so happens that, like the

609
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: majority of the world is very lonely people right now,

610
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: because we're all on just social media and you know, working,

611
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: and at least the majority of America. So people want

612
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: to give him the benefit of the doubt. He has

613
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: a lot of supporters, but like this, I don't know

614
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: how it really is, Like an NBA fan who just

615
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: gets pulled into a game because they talked ship and

616
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: just getting dunked on repeatedly. I think this is the

617
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: result of particularly in America. I'm not sure how Elon

618
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: trends outside of the United States, but in America we

619
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: have this ideology of like the genius billionaire builder. I mean,

620
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: look at how we started our marvel you with irons,

621
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: but you can check it, you know, probably, I mean

622
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: there's probably someone before Henry Ford, but that's the big

623
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: icon of like my youth of it. Like he invented

624
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: the assembly line. He made capitalism easier because he turned

625
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: you into a factory part. This isn't that wonderful. Like

626
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: he figured out how to have an effective factory floor

627
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: and he raised a ton of money and he got

628
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: rich and that was lovely. Vanderbilt or another good example

629
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: of like they build these teams with all their money,

630
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: isn't that lovely? Like look at how progressive that is

631
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: of them, say say thank you, we we love like

632
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: a white billionaire influencer. So like philanthropists, like that's really

633
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: what we're about. And so that lead And because we've

634
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: made icons of these people, I think we're constantly looking

635
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Speaker 1: for the next one. Elon made a ton of really

636
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: bold claims, but it's it's funny to me how people

637
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: stick with these folks, Like you know, to me, if

638
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: you're an Elon stand liked the truck window that couldn't

639
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: be broken and then got broke on stage and presentation

640
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: making take pause? Did the testles that are constantly on fire?

641
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: Or the workers who you have so much more in

642
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: common than you ever will with Elon, who have had

643
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: to like constantly vocally protest their work conditions like make

644
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: you rethink it's or you know, like the kind of

645
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: irving fans who are like you at he's feeling he

646
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: thinks the world is flat, y'all. Like I just would

647
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: encourage you to consider, like what else these people are

648
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: thinking and doing with sides what they say they can do,

649
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: Like their actions should be speaking louder than their words.

650
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: And that's what is perplexing about the Elon stands of

651
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: it all. There are a lot of Elon stands out there,

652
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: and it's just funny to me, Like he didn't even

653
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: really like by Twitter to like, I feel like he

654
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: just bought Twitter because he wanted. Well, first he was

655
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: mad about like his daughter transitioning and like the free

656
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: speech thing on Twitter R And I feel like he's

657
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: just trying to get back at people and it's not wait,

658
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: saymour Carmen, I didn't know his daughter was transitioning. Oh yes,

659
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: his daughter transition And he claims that he lost his

660
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: daughter to transactivists and like woke active like transwoke activism

661
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: and all of that. So like he you know, he encourages,

662
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: like openly encourages like transphobia on Twitter. Now you know

663
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: now that comedy is legal again on on Twitter, every

664
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: time someone shows their ask to be a villain, it

665
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: goes right back to transphobia. And that is so upsetting

666
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: to me. It is wild. Oh my gosh, Okay, so

667
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: even more of a monster than I initially thought and

668
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: openly and just like openly behind closed doors, but like

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00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: among people who have worked with him openly racists. Yeah,

670
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's not east from South Africa. He owned

671
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: a mind and two and two is four people. Truly.

672
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: By the way, I just want to make sure because

673
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier that he has emerald emeralds in his pockets,

674
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: and I think people might assume that that is like

675
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: a metaphor where it's like he was born on third

676
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: with emeralds in his pockets. No, he his dad, who

677
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: also monster, but it was like, yeah, Ellen was always

678
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: walking around with emeralds in his pocket trying like selling

679
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: them to Tiffany's to get extra change, like extra pocket

680
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: change basically because we owned an Emerald mind and he

681
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: knew that gave him money. So yeah, truly, Nightmarish. I

682
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: want to ask you, do you guys intend to keep

683
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: using Twitter? Have you seen Twitter change all that much

684
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: in the past couple of days? I never used it?

685
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Continue you never used Twitter? No? Uh well, I did

686
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: say yeah, like just to peek on people, like lurk

687
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: on people, but never because I hate that they put

688
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: everything behind a wall. You know, Yeah, you can't see

689
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: it unless you sign it in which I'm like, yeah,

690
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: I'm mainly a lurker to I do. I just the

691
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: the other solution. I haven't like reshaped my life and

692
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: my like way of tracking news enough to figure out

693
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: like what I'm going to do, But I I am

694
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: getting there to the place where I'm ready to jump ship.

695
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: But I'm also I don't know, I don't know how

696
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: much like I'll probably keep using it because I don't

697
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: think it necessarily like changes that much to just like

698
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: not have that window into into the world. I think

699
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what happens once the rule

700
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: changes go into effect, which they pushed back to after today,

701
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: so after the election then new rules go into effect,

702
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: which I think was smart, but I don't know what

703
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: how much difference would they make really, But just as

704
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: far as like interactions, I mean, already you have a

705
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: ton of people who are like reporting racism and they're

706
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: being like, this is not violate Twitter rules. And if

707
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: we're going to go in the opposite direction of less rules,

708
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: it seems like there's going to be more rapid trolls

709
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: and that that might impact user interactions and you know,

710
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: just the general joy you get on the site as

711
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: somebody who's used to Twitter a lot like, I am

712
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: very addicted to Twitter. It's where I That's how I

713
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: got started in the industry because despite having a degree,

714
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: getting a job it was real hard when I first

715
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: got here. Twitter gating my first couple of jobs. When

716
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: I got the check mark and fair aside, it helps,

717
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, make me seem more professional to other jobs

718
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: I was applying to, so that was really helpful. I

719
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: have an entire network of black lady delegates who are

720
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, work all across this industry and many different positions.

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00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: That's where our group chat lives is on Twitter. It's

722
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: weird to think I might not be returning there soon.

723
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm definitely seeing a huge drop in like followers as

724
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: people began to exit. And what's really hard is I'm

725
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: trying to find a space that can replace what Twitter

726
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: is for me, which is essentially a place that like

727
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: words first. I like Instagram. I don't mind taking a

728
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: picture of myself every now and again. I might even

729
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: hop on a video into my stories, but I'm not

730
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: trying to do that on the daily, and certainly not

731
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: as much as I between that's a lot. I checked

732
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: out Masodon, which is sort of like Discord and that

733
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: there are different hubs that you can join, but that

734
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: seems to the get the like universality of Twitter, where

735
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: if you're putting it on a board, everybody who's on

736
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: Twitter can see it on that board, whereas Masodon it's

737
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: like segmented. I guess it's very hard to understand. I'm

738
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: trying to learn. If you feel you're an expert in Massodon,

739
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: please talk to me. Tumbler just brought youth back so there,

740
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: so apparently yeah, they knew what was up. Yeah, to

741
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: answer your question, it does feel like this is like

742
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: there's been moments where people are like, we're all quitting Twitter.

743
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: This feels different. It feels like things are dissolving on there.

744
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I can't remember a time where for a full week,

745
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: like the content has just been like this bad. The

746
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: conversation seemed to all be about Elon Musk, which I'm

747
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: assuming is what he wanted in the first place. But

748
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: it just makes four and I don't know if that's

749
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: you know, the new regime fucking with like how the

750
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: algorithm delivers tweets, But I do I do know that

751
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: last night when I was checking Twitter, I got to

752
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: like notific to just Elon Musk tweets in my feed,

753
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: and I've never gotten an Elon Musk tweet tweet in

754
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: my feed, but they like legitimate, genuine Elon must be

755
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: and like we want to be the place for truth

756
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: or like you know, some some bullshit mainstream like kind

757
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: of appealing centrist take that's not the reality. I think

758
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: it's so true what you were saying about iron Man.

759
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: I put Elon Musk in the same category as Jeffrey Dahmer,

760
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: as these two figures who the zeitgeist dreamed up at

761
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: the same time that like Hollywood was creating a figure

762
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: that everybody wanted. So Jeffrey Dahmer, like, you know, I'm

763
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: still I think he was just a lazy person who

764
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: didn't like clean up a lot of the dead bodies,

765
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: and he might have like tried a piece of like

766
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: one of his victims. But like the when he was

767
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: being questioned, he the police really wanted him to be

768
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: a cannibal, and it was right after Silence of the Lambs,

769
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: and so he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's me.

770
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a cannibal. Like the the evidence isn't

771
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: that strong. It just seems like he was a terrible

772
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: alcoholic who was like just had the way that you know,

773
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of alcoholics like don't clean up

774
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: after themselves, just have like you know, things from work

775
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: strewn all over there apart racist killings all of yeah,

776
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: just racist murders all over the as like refrigerator and

777
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: you know. But so that's like, my this is not

778
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: a popular theory, by the way, but this is I've

779
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: always I've always suspected that and I've never been able

780
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: to like find the like, you know, the evidence that

781
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, he definitely did and not that he

782
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: was just taking advantage of a thing. And it's just

783
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: so weird that like America had their big cannibal serial

784
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: killer right after Sounds of the Lambs was like a hit.

785
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I buy into this theory. Jack blowing

786
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: my mind. But I buy into it because queens will

787
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: if they think you did it. They'll, especially if you're

788
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: a person who has any kind of like learning disability,

789
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: your mental disability, or if you're like an addict is

790
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: currently in the throes of your addiction, like they lean

791
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: on you in such a way that you'll confess to

792
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is they're talking about, And especially

793
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: at that point if you already know you're screwed, like

794
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: you might as well go out with a bang, like, yeah,

795
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm the person who eats people. Don't up with me

796
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: when I gets prisy, We'll take a bite out of you. Yeah.

797
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: And and Elon Musk came up right around the same

798
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: time as Tony Stark, like he was just somebody who

799
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: was very successful in business. Like you know, despite what

800
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: their revisionist biographies will tell you, the only skill of

801
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: almost any big CEO that becomes a billionaire is that

802
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: they take advantage of their advantages, and they find a

803
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: weakness in the system and exploit it repeatedly until they

804
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: have more money than the system intended them to have.

805
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Like when you look back and like to a person,

806
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: go person by person, it's just finding a weakness exploiting

807
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: it over and over and over again until you have way, way,

808
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: way too much money. And then they write these stories

809
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: where it's all about like, well, I had this vision

810
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: and you know I did it all by myself, and

811
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: it's actually like no, you were just like in the

812
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: right place at the right time, around the right people

813
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: all got very lucky took advantage of your work stepped

814
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: all over people and well they yeah, yeah, and you know,

815
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: having this public persona that everybody really fucks with and

816
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: like that, you know, iron Man is inadvertently doing your

817
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: pr work for you. It's it's also happening, like it

818
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of ties back to the polling thing, because it's

819
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: happening at a time when we still believe that like

820
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: a technocrat could save us, that like this, we could

821
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: just keep getting better technology and answer you know, all

822
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: of these challenges that we had, even though like all

823
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: of the information we had coming in that was reliable

824
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: was like, no, the world is ending, you guys, there's

825
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: we have a climate disaster and like the most powerful

826
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: people in the world are unwilling to admit it. But

827
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: what you're saying is Avatar was right and Marvel was wrong.

828
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: We picked the wrong. I am kind of saying that

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00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: I didn't want to come out and say, Joel, because

830
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I know you would be pissed. But alright, real quick,

831
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: let's let's give the people something that they could be

832
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: watching that is not Twitter that like Wendell and Wild

833
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: is a movie that is from the artist who made

834
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: Nightmare Before Christmas and then had Tim Burton like slap

835
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: his name on it. But Henry Selick created that. He

836
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: created Coraline, which is like a classic stop motion animation

837
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: like visual extravaganza. His latest movie is a collaboration with

838
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: Jordan's Peel. It is supposed to be just like incredible,

839
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: like one of the most visually like stunning movies in years,

840
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: which is like what happens every time this person releases

841
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: a movie and Netflix is just like not even telling

842
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: people it exists. They're not like promoting it. It's pretty wild.

843
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: That wasn't another wild conversation sation that we can definitely

844
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: get into the idea of what is being and what

845
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: isn't being promoted. And I have to say that it

846
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: comes much more down to the algorithm and not as

847
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: much like money and intent to promote. So I have

848
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot of friends who work MPR and this is

849
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: like a very frustrating line for them. They're like, we

850
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: were her assets off trying to promote these films to

851
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: get in front of your eyes. But because we become

852
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: such disparate groups, because there are so many spaces where

853
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: you can just opt out of ads, you're not frequently

854
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: and because less people are commuting to work now than ever.

855
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: Although a lot have returned, the spaces where you're used

856
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: to seeing ads are no longer being tapped into, and

857
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: so a lot of people are missing it. I've seen

858
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: this promoted here and there, and because it's a Netflix movie,

859
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: and because Netflix is currently in the throes of figuring

860
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: out like what is their next move, they're struggling to

861
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have the funds they might once

862
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: to have had to go full tilt. Even Disney has

863
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: had a bunch of properties come out this year and

864
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the only thing they've leaned into in a crazy way

865
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: is Black Panther, where they were essentially like, if it's

866
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: a product, we'll put Black Panther on it. We do

867
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: not care at this point. This is the movie that's

868
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: going to save our bottom line. It's also we're seeing

869
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: across p on the pr side. I'll come here and

870
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: promote this movie in case it hasn't crossed your timeline yet.

871
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: Henry Selick, as Jack just mentioned, is a genius director.

872
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: He did a Nightmare Before Christmas and Coraline, and he

873
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: did it with major studios that have, you know, their

874
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: bottom line and their own specific desires. There's a reason

875
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: you put Tim Burton on Nightmare before Christmas, right as

876
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: you know, he's coming off of this succuss of Beetlejuice

877
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: and some of his other films. UH. Edwards Is or

878
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: Hands and stuff like that. It was and aimed to

879
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: bring in, you know, more teenage viewers, because this was

880
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: one of the first movies Disney did that wasn't strictly

881
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: aimed at children. And it comes post their nineteen eighties

882
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: very dark phase. Then they have the Little Mermaid come

883
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: out and they're like very shining, and they weren't sure

884
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: how it was gonna check their dark days. If you

885
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: know anything about Disney in the late seventies early eighties,

886
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: it was a real problem for them. The studio almost

887
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: collapsed until Little Mermaid came out, and because of that,

888
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: Henry Sellek is constantly being lost lost, even though he's

889
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: one of the greatest are Like Country has ever produced.

890
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: As far as visual creators. It costs a lot, a lot,

891
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: a lot of money to make stop motion. So he

892
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: goes to join Peel with Wendell and Wilde and he

893
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: created UH in partnership with Monkey Post Studio. The film

894
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: follows the story of Cat played by Lyric Ross, who

895
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: has become hardened by the school to prison pipeline after

896
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: her parents died in a car crash. Kath blanes herself

897
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: as she ages, she becomes increasingly angry. As an orphan,

898
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: She's passed around between foster homes and detention centers until

899
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: she lands back in her hometown and all girls boarding

900
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: school school here sucks. The ones thriving town now resembles

901
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: an abandoned factory town. Both families have left and the

902
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: ones that stayed are a hoarded their wealth or are

903
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: trying like heck to prevent what to preserve what little

904
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: community is left. Eventually, Kat begins to find her people.

905
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: Raoul sam Zeleia, trans boy, eager to express himself, all

906
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: stuck in a school for girls and this hell Air

907
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: played by Angela Bassett, a nun who was secretly a

908
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: demon hunter. When Cat discovers the way to bring her

909
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: parents back, she calls, most nuns are I think we

910
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: can all agree? Yeah? So, when Cat discovers a way

911
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: to bring her parents back, she calls to demons Wendel

912
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: and Wild Kickan, Michael Key and Jordan Peel from the Underworld,

913
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: and Calamity ensues, demons run amuck, Cat remains closed off

914
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: from the community that's eager to help her, and two

915
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: evil parents inspired to close the boarding school and turn

916
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: the surrounding lands into a prison. Cells return to animation

917
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: is a long overdue. Despite creating two of the most

918
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: popular children's films in the past twenty years, no studio

919
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: is willing to bank roll and cost his next stop

920
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: motion picture, And while Wendell and Wild lacks the whimsy

921
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: enlightness of his previous endeavors, it also put just the

922
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: boundaries of what children's films are willing to discuss with kids.

923
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: Trans writes and denial of gender affirmation, the depressions and

924
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: isolation of children lost in the system, and the strength

925
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: it takes to stand up to one's elders are all

926
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: under spread, all on display, under selic and peels pens.

927
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: On top of that, the animation is flawless. At times,

928
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: I forgot I was watching stop motion. The movement was

929
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: super fluid. The underworld is a blaze of dazzling green

930
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: and tourly amusement park rides and rules. Art piece is inspiring. However,

931
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: the film does wrong long at a hundred and two minutes,

932
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: and while the messages are important, that there are so

933
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: many characters and stuff plots of challenging to keep everything straight.

934
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: As much as I love moments in the film, I

935
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't feel the whole thing came together. But I'm glad

936
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: Selic and Peel teamed up, and I'm hoping to see

937
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: more out of the pair in the future. Selka's eager

938
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: to craft more of his masterpieces, and it would be

939
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: great if you weren't begging or creatively stifled as he

940
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: continued his career. You can watch Wendle and Wild on

941
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: Netflix right now. Come for the beautiful animation, stay for

942
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: the extraordinary vocal performance. Is Damn joel On one of

943
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: our one of our great film critics, and we're lucky

944
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: to have had an actual piece of film criticism from you.

945
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: I hope to do it more. I should mentioned this

946
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: film did premiere at tiff a while ago. It's beautiful.

947
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: If you get a chance. I know what was screening

948
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: on It was doing a couple of screenings. I think

949
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: they're doing a couple of more special screenings. If you

950
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: get a chance to see it on the big screen.

951
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: It is truly, truly beautiful, and I think that you know,

952
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: having had this run with Monkey Pow, knowing that they're

953
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: trying to do more films like this. You know, I

954
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: think it takes a lot of guts to make a

955
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: film with an unlikable character, or it might be better

956
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: to say Cat is uninterested in being liked. You know,

957
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: I liked her a lot because she's a badass black

958
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: girl who's not taking anything one ship and is really

959
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: on a mission to sort of liberate herself from the

960
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: confines she's been left in. But I also think, you know,

961
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: I hope that getting to do this again and having

962
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: money in and more time, he'll be able to crash

963
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: something a little bit tightier toward us is seeing and

964
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: all these great pieces, so Sellok's great. I'm glad he

965
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: had this opportunity to tell this story. Yeah, and it's

966
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: in collaborating, like like you mentioned Jordan Peele, like co

967
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: wrote it. So like that Jordan Peele is one of

968
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: the only people who can open a movie like just

969
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: by working behind the scenes on a movie, you know,

970
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a Jordan Peel directed like a

971
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: movie that that like everybody's gonna turn out too. But

972
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: you would think that they would kind of lean into that.

973
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: But I do think like Disney, what Disney did with

974
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: Tim Burton and Nightmare Before Christmas kind of fucked up

975
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: anyone's ability to do that on a Henry Selick movie.

976
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: I think now he's like, this should is all me, baby, Yeah,

977
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: as it should be. As it should be. He deserved

978
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: all that for so many people are like, oh, yeah,

979
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: you know Tim burn director that he didn't. It's presented

980
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: by him. He was a producer. He gave many a note.

981
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: He drew a lot of the characters, and then somebody

982
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: else sculpted. But let's be real, there's a lot of

983
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: and especially if you're gonna do a stop motion picture,

984
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: there's gonna be so many hands involved creatively. Like I

985
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: think it's just always important to recognize the directors to

986
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: do what to me seems an important I don't know

987
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: if you guys have ever seen stop motion and action.

988
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: It is so tedious. It is such a difficult task.

989
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: The other one thing about the movies you get to

990
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: see Kega, Michael Key and Jordan Peele do their key

991
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: and peel stick a lot. The demons look like some

992
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: of the uh furious There was an airplane sketch they

993
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: did with where they had these strange beards. Those are

994
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: on the characters at one point you get ay if

995
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: you've seen their football sketches where they call it to

996
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: their like weird names, and they're like, just be a doofy,

997
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of that energy. So their scenes

998
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: are a lot of fun too. Yeah, and it's cool

999
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: that it's on the theme of like the School to prison,

1000
00:59:52,880 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: like Pipeline Hell yeah, you know, trans great and it's

1001
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: like all spooky, paranormal themed. It's very punk rock, whereas

1002
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: the other films are like again super into like The

1003
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Whimsy and and sort of you know, Neil Game is

1004
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: like fairy Tale Center and The Nightmare Before Christmas is

1005
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: all about lore. This is just very much like my

1006
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: dad was in a punk rock and so am I

1007
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: have a giant boom box and spiked boots and bright

1008
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: green hair. Fun with me if you dare kind of energy.

1009
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: It's very thirteen I think about the thirteen year old

1010
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: I might have more appreciation for this film. That's who

1011
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: it was made for anyhow. And then I spoke to

1012
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: a woman whose parents died when she was young. She

1013
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: found a lot of semblance in the movie. She connected

1014
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: a lot with the main character and felt you know,

1015
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: it described her rage and anger post their desks really well.

1016
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: So a lot of people get a lot of different

1017
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: things out of the movie, which I think, you know,

1018
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: is typically really hard to do. So definitely watch it.

1019
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: I give it a solid beeplus is. Yeah, I'll what

1020
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: probably not have a chance to maybe maybe I will

1021
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: have a chance to watch it. But Mike, I say

1022
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: the PG thirteen is not for violence at all, and

1023
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: I didn't think the demons are particularly frightening and they're

1024
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: not like devilish or gory at all. I think it

1025
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: really comes down to subject matter, maybe some language if

1026
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: I remember expectfully. Yeah, I think, you know, my four

1027
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: year old is probably not ready for it, but it

1028
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: would be hard to give four year old attention on

1029
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: this film, to be honest, I had to watch it

1030
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: twice before I felt I fully understood all of the

1031
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: things that were happening in it. Yeah. Although Selex said

1032
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: that he was like after Cortline wasn't like the movie

1033
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: that he necessarily or like, you know, it was a hit,

1034
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like a huge hit, and it was,

1035
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, so challenging to make. He

1036
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: wasn't sure he was going to make another movie, and

1037
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: then he the show Key and Peel was like just

1038
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: creating at such an amazing level that he said it

1039
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: inspired him to start working again, and like that, I

1040
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: read that beautiful. Oh I love a full circle moment.

1041
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: I think cam feel is like I've I've always said,

1042
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Peel's work as a comedic actor is underrated.

1043
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: Like you know, before he made films, I was like,

1044
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: that's my favorite comedic actor. Like his performances are just

1045
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: so subtle and like they're big. It's it's also not

1046
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: like me big, but some of his choices are I

1047
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: think to your point, amongst those big actions, you'll see

1048
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: you do small things that you're like, what is happening there?

1049
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: That's weird And it's an interesting like character which I

1050
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: think sometimes gets lost in comedy, which is all about

1051
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: the punch line, But he really he talks to you

1052
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: about how he builds horror around a joke set up

1053
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: to reveal a punchline, which if you've seen you know,

1054
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: uh nope, he totally get when you're watching it, because

1055
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: the whole thing is stringing you along until that final

1056
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: moment where you're like, oh my god, and it's almost funny.

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Speaker 1: It's comical in in a more of a like nebulous

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Speaker 1: universal way. It's wild. Yeah, he's extremely talented. It's so

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Speaker 1: good and yeah, I think Key and Peel like it.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll last, like people will still be talking

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Speaker 1: about it years. It holds up if you go back

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Speaker 1: and watch if you haven't seen it in a while.

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Speaker 1: It's a good rewatch. So good well Carmen as always

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Speaker 1: truly a pleasure having you on the dailies like Ice.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 1: Well my Instagram that's my only social I have that.

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Speaker 1: You can find me at where in the world is

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Speaker 1: Underscore Carmen or you can follow the podcast Beauty Translated

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Speaker 1: Pod also on Instagram. The whole season one a Beauty

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Speaker 1: Translated podcast is out now, so go and listen to it.

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Speaker 1: We're working on a season two. So super good car

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Speaker 1: and has so many great guests and they're so vulnerable

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Speaker 1: and sharing their story. Isn't it just it's so good.

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Speaker 1: I love this podcast. It's so thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or something on Instagram? We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to change this part. We're gonna. Is there any

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Speaker 1: work of social media that you've been enjoying? I saw

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Speaker 1: this The Onion posted this on Instagram, like on Instagram

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Speaker 1: right before I hopped in here, and it's a headline

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Speaker 1: that says centrist advocates moderate approach to Jennifer. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was perfect my screenshot at that, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be my tweets. So there you go. That's good, Joel.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is a tweet you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying? Or y'all have find me doing some of

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Speaker 1: my best work at Comic Con Meta pod there's a

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Speaker 1: little asterisk between meta and pod. Do you have to

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Speaker 1: type it in to find on I g or you

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Speaker 1: could just come to any of my social pages there

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Speaker 1: will be a link there. We have had such good

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Speaker 1: conversations just you guys. I talked to Gean Carlos Pito

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Speaker 1: and made him fry. I spoke to Jessica Gao about

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Speaker 1: how she pitched She Hoped. We talked to Cody Zigler,

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Speaker 1: who wrote the Daredevil episode of She Hulk, and he

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Speaker 1: broke down how he got that episode by bringing in

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Speaker 1: a Daredevil comic randomly to a writer's room and they

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Speaker 1: were like, oh, well you have all the facts, so

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Speaker 1: you're writing that episode. Uh. And my co host, Hector Navarro,

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Speaker 1: and I who Hector is like a encyclopedia of nerd stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's really been helping me break down all the nerd news.

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Speaker 1: We have really great episodes coming up this Wednesday. So

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Speaker 1: tomorrow for you guys, we have Kevin Kiner, the only

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Speaker 1: composer who's composed more Star Wars music than John Williams. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He just did the New Tales of the Jedi series

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Speaker 1: and the music is so good y'all. So he breaks

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Speaker 1: it down for us. So please please check out comic

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Speaker 1: Con metopod it is my love. Uh, you can't send

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Speaker 1: me all the internet actual mee's j O E l

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Speaker 1: o E m O n I Q you. I've really

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Speaker 1: been appreciating the tweets that have been dunking on Champagne

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Speaker 1: Poppy after his ridoculous album dropped and he decided he

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Speaker 1: was gonna put Meg the Stallion's name in his mouth,

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Speaker 1: as well as Serena's husband. My favorite one was I

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Speaker 1: know this NBA wife is not calling anybody a groupie,

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Speaker 1: followed by many many pictures of Drake with many many

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Speaker 1: basketball stars. Delightful, keep that energy coming uh from it's

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Speaker 1: the Brandy tweeted, I opened a delivery app because I

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Speaker 1: wanted beer, and then I got excited by the dining options,

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Speaker 1: and then got said because I realized my address was

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Speaker 1: still the bar in Brooklyn. I did trivia at been there, Brandy.

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Speaker 1: It's brutal. You're like, oh, oh, this looks so good.

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Speaker 1: That's not the address I'm currently at. None of that

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Speaker 1: food will come to me. And then Jacob Hall at

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Speaker 1: Jacob s Hall tweeted, has to admire that the weird

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Speaker 1: stores have taken over them all. The r C Vehicle

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Speaker 1: Specialty Shop, the unofficial Level Store knock off, the horror

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Speaker 1: Member billion store, the place that was all wrestling ship,

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Speaker 1: the fast empty store that we just dozens of coin

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Speaker 1: operated baby rides. I think, but I'm all lately it's

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Speaker 1: very strange. It is a weird experience, feel like run

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Speaker 1: down sears and then way too many coin operated like

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Speaker 1: either rides or massage chairs. I don't know what's happening

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Speaker 1: to America's malls, but will you need to bring them back?

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Speaker 1: M Yeah these days for sure. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien, uh tweet. I've been

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Speaker 1: enjoying Bill ny though, and then it's parody in parentheses

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Speaker 1: on Twitter because you have to you have to make

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Speaker 1: you actually don't have to make it clear. The only

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Speaker 1: person who minds if you parody them is Elon. But

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Speaker 1: Bill ni though said, damn how much daylight they trying

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Speaker 1: to save? As dark as hell? That is, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: I we didn't address it yet, but that it's daily

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Speaker 1: the it's dark as hell, And I thought I stopped

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Speaker 1: paying attention to the story when the Senate Senate passed

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Speaker 1: unanimously legislation to do away with the change. But then

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Speaker 1: the House, who were about to be here in a

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Speaker 1: lot more bad news from if if polsters are right,

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Speaker 1: which they probably aren't. But the House has yet to

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Speaker 1: find consensus, because please do what House? I'm tired. I

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Speaker 1: don't ever have to switch a clock again, or just

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Speaker 1: my dog doesn't like it, like it's too much, it's

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Speaker 1: over kill. We just need one time of day, Okay,

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Speaker 1: lights are gonna be on anyway. The yet to find

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Speaker 1: consensus quote is from Representative Frank Polone Jr. Chairman of

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Speaker 1: the House Energy and Commerce Committee. If I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you could find a cursed committee, then House Energy

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Speaker 1: and Commerce, the things that are killing us all anyway.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

1158
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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our foot notes. Notes we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Super producer Justin Smith, do you have a song that

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Speaker 1: you would like people to check out with Miles out today?

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Speaker 1: I do, considering it is a rainy grade day in

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Speaker 1: l A. This honor of Miles, Yes, yes, an honor

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Speaker 1: of Miles. Uh this day or the song is really

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Speaker 1: really relaxing, but it fits the vibe so well. This

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Speaker 1: is a group called lap A Looks featuring Talvy. This

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Speaker 1: song sounds like if the sci Fi Channel acquired some

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Speaker 1: cinemax i p and started doing like softcore sci fi.

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Speaker 1: It's a very like sexy, wavy song. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of interesting sound effects going on, and it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: get you excited, I promise you so uh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So this song is forever spelled the old instant messager way,

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Speaker 1: one word the number four E V A lap, A

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Speaker 1: lux and talvy And you can find this song in

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Speaker 1: the footnotes. The Daily is Like guys, the production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. For more podcasts for my heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to

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Speaker 1: tell you what is trending and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: all then fight