1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff from How Stuff Works. Hi, brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Lauren vogelbaumb here, I've got a serious one for you today. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about mass shootings in the United States and 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: why they seem to be happening so frequently at schools. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: We're not getting graphic, but listener discretion is advised. On 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day this year, seventeen people, including students and teachers, 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: were killed by a nineteen year old former student at 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Marjorie Stone and Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. This 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: was the tenth mass school shooting in the United States 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: in the past five years. A mass shooting is generally 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: defined as one where at least four people are killed 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: in a single incident, and once again Americans are left 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: asking ourselves why. Lost in the noisy debate over gun 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: control and mental health screening is another confounding question, why schools. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Why does so many troubled young men choose schools as 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: the place to act out their violent and vengeful fantasies, 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: And what, if anything, could schools do to avoid becoming 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the next Columbine Sandy Hook or Stoneman Douglas. We spoke 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: with Brian Warnick, a professor of educational ethics and Policy 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: at the Ohio State University, who co authored a paper 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: on the meaning and motivations behind targeted school shootings. Even 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: though many associate gun violence in America with poor inner 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: city communities, mass school shootings almost always occur in upper 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: middle class suburban schools. That's where the status tournament takes place, 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: explains Warnick. He said, suburban schools do a lot of 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: things to select winners and losers in ways that go 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: beyond academics. Think the adelation of athletics and the crowning 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: of homecoming kings and queens. He continued, the way we 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: see it, when schools set themselves up as judges in 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: the social status tournament, the resentment will sometimes be directed 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: against these school itself. He notes that in the book 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood Goes to the Movies, sociologist and author Robert Bollman 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: says that while Hollywood films set in urban schools focus 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: on heroic teachers and academic achievement, films set in suburban 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: settings focus on student journeys of self discovery in the 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: same vain. Many suburban school shooters see what they are 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: doing is acts of self expression, Warnick said, there's a 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: different value system at play in suburban schools. It's called 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: expressive individualism. What we see in movies and TV is 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: students engaged in this process of self discovery, breaking through 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: norms of the school, breaking through social cliques. Self discovery 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: and individual expression aren't necessarily bad things, says Warnick, But 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: for certain troubled young men who harbored deep resentment of 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the system that rejected them, there's no better way to 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: express their true, tortured selves than through a dramatic act 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: of violence. And the higher the body count, the more 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: powerful the message will be. We also spoke with Cheryl Johnson, 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: a professor of criminal justice at Cincinnati's Xavier University, where 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: she has studied whether increased security measures, namely armed guards 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: on campus, locked down buildings, and metal detectors, are an 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: effective means of preventing school shootings. She found that although 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: beefed up security made to terr overall crime and violent 53 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: crime in schools, there's little evidence to show that those 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: measures alone can thwart a mass shooting. First, school shootings 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: are just too statistically rare to gauge the efficacy of 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: different security methods, and second, there's anecdotal evidence that even 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: the best security methods can fail. There were armed school 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: guards a Columbine, the Sandy Hook shooters shot through glass 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: panes to bypass locked doors, and in two thousand five, 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: a student in Red Lake, Minnesota, passed through his school's 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: metal detector before killing an unarmed guard who tried to 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: stop him, along with seven other people, including himself. There's 63 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: also concern that militarizing schools with armed guards and security 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: checkpoints contributes to the idea that the school is an 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: unsafe place where violence is almost expected. Johnson's seventeen paper, 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: obviously written before the February Parkland incident, pointed out that 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: the raw number of homicides at u S schools each 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: year since Columbine in had actually decreased or remained stable 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: over the years. One of the best ways to prevent 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: school shootings, both Johnson and Warnick agree, is to encourage 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: people to beak up when they suspect that a classmate, friend, 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: or family member is contemplating something terrible. A day before 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the Parkland shooting, a grandmother in Washington State called nine 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: one one when she found her eighteen year old grandson's 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: handwritten plans for a gruesome school attack involving homemade explosives. 76 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: Johnson said, that's a school shooting we're not talking about today, 77 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: citing a report from the Secret Service and the Department 78 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: of Education that of school shootings, at least one other 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: person knew about the plans. In fifty two or more 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: people had information about the attacks before they occurred. Warnick said, 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: usually when school shootings are prevented, it's when students trust 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: the teachers enough to share that information with them. If 83 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: we could really build up schools as places of trust 84 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: where children feel like they have adults who care about them, 85 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: that would facilitate the communication that's been proven to prevent 86 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: school shootings. Of course, speaking up hasn't always been foolproof. 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: We now know that the FBI received a tip about 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the Parkland shooter dating back to September seventeen for making 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: this sturbing comments on YouTube, but he was never detained 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: or even questioned. A second person contacted the FBI on 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: January to report their concerns and to warn them about 92 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: the shooters guns and desire to kill, but the FBI 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: has admitted that the proper protocols to follow up were 94 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: left on followed instead of school districts spending money on 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: expensive and unproven security solutions. Brian Warnick suggests they hire 96 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: more teachers and counselors to shrink class sizes and encourage 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: more meaningful interactions between staff and struggling students. He'd also 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: like to see more creative outlets like art, literature, and 99 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: music classes, which often get cut from tight budgets for 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: safe individual expression. Today's episode was written by Dave Ruse 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: and produced by Tyler Klang. For more on this and 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: other current topics, visit our home planet, how stuff works 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: dot com