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Speaker 1: buck down, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces?

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there? Rights the latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled

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Speaker 1: by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, bring

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Speaker 1: it on. Slam the ground by foot a baker like

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Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared

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Speaker 1: and nobody here's Paul Calvic. What if I say, AI?

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Speaker 1: What are you think of? This might be revealing in

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Speaker 1: more ways than one, because Felipe A. Corral Junior, you

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Speaker 1: were probably in diapers when the original AI was around.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not talking about artificial intelligence right here, right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking, Darren about you hoop hallock. Who am I

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Speaker 1: talking about Alan Iverson? That's right, because I thought i'd

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Speaker 1: bring that up off the top because among other things,

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Speaker 1: we are going to be talking about practice, man, not

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Speaker 1: just the game, not yet talking about practice and a

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Speaker 1: sighting of J. J. Watt that is reportedly scheduled for

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Speaker 1: Paul KELVC, PAULI Podcast, Darren Urban and Felipe. The flour

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Speaker 1: is yours. J J. Watt tick talk. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about that? Can I just point out that I,

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Speaker 1: honestly the first thing that came to our mind was

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Speaker 1: Allen Iverson. I just want to clarify that because throughout

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Speaker 1: the throughout the YEA, you know, I've been slacking on

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Speaker 1: on certain Yeah, we have the sertain names your case,

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Speaker 1: so I just gonna slack. You know, I have a

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old slacker at home, and I'm telling him

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Speaker 1: AI is the future as an artificial intelligence. Start cracking

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Speaker 1: on the AI because that is going to be your future.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, Felipe, because I forgot you were

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Speaker 1: a high school hoops legend, so of course you were thinking,

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Speaker 1: I person, Yes, a lot of my first like exposure

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Speaker 1: know who Ai is and you know. But to your

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Speaker 1: statistical categories on the defensive side, have you know, been

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Speaker 1: exposings JJ Watt, you know when out with that injury,

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Speaker 1: you know, points per game total QBR by the opposing quarterback,

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Speaker 1: things like that. You know that, That's what comes to

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Speaker 1: my mind. That's why if he does happen to play,

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Speaker 1: even if it's on a limited basis, it's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: You know. Now you can go back to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to safety looks. Now you don't have to overcompensate for

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Speaker 1: not having jj Watt on that defensive line. I'll challenge

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Speaker 1: seen that, you know, that double offensive line look on

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Speaker 1: Challenge Jones in the past couple of well since jj

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Speaker 1: Now you don't have to bring down Buddham Baker into

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Speaker 1: that's what comes from online because you think about it.

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Speaker 1: Week six at the Browns, jj Watt to sack, five tackles,

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Speaker 1: his is it gamesmanship? And he probably won't play, but

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Speaker 1: they have their ninety nine. The Rams, you have your

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Speaker 1: My goodness? Is that due to prospect? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: but the way he supposedly is tracking right now, and

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Speaker 1: would there really be all this, all this hullabaloo if

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Speaker 1: But obviously he has his play of experience, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Land of Cosmetic Surgery. These are two teams that,

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Speaker 1: Week eighteen, they should be featured on an upcoming episode

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Speaker 1: of Botched, Right, I mean, think about it. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: of you know, just everything going on our Jim mom

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Speaker 1: he puts out the tweets. Come on, JJ, that's not fair,

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Speaker 1: gonna fall on Kyler Murry in my opinion. Given. Yeah,

426
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Speaker 1: I know they they're missing key pieces, but I mean,

427
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Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs. You just gotta leave it all

428
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Speaker 1: on the field. As much as we talk about how

429
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Speaker 1: the secondary struggled or even how many yards rushing the

430
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Speaker 1: Cardinals gave up last week, it is kind of funny.

431
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they took care of the ball, they won

432
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Speaker 1: the turnover battle, they won the time of possession. If

433
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Speaker 1: you turn two of those three super long drives into

434
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Speaker 1: touchdowns that were field goals, you win the game. So

435
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: you're saying red zone is the key, you know when

436
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: you really think about it. I mean, again, where do

437
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: we start this season? I know I started on this

438
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: podcast saying, and I've said it a billion times since then,

439
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: as good as the defense is played at times, to me,

440
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: this team has to win with offense and a good

441
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Speaker 1: enough defense. And their defense wasn't good enough last week,

442
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: but it wasn't so bad that you couldn't have won.

443
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, and the offense wasn't so bad that you're like,

444
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Speaker 1: what the hell, Like, I know, I know their first

445
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Speaker 1: half was not good, and I know a couple of those.

446
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Speaker 1: The second touchdown that the go ahead touchdown the Cardinals

447
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: had was all about Jayalen Thompson in a turnover, which

448
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: again that's kind of been the recipe for success. But

449
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Speaker 1: they did some things, and I think they continue can

450
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Speaker 1: continue to do some things. I think the red zone

451
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Speaker 1: and I also think you know what they do on that.

452
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean they we were talking off air, Paul, when

453
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: you were talking about the tackling left something to be desired,

454
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Speaker 1: and I do think that's one of the reasons Penny

455
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: got off for so many yards. Not the long run

456
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 1: because he was barely touched on that one, but I

457
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Speaker 1: mean the Rams. I didn't see what the final stats were,

458
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Speaker 1: but I know looking at the stats right at the

459
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Speaker 1: end of regulation of that game when the forty nine

460
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: ers came back and Sony Michelle had fourteen carries for

461
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Speaker 1: fifteen yards, and I want to say, Henri or Acres

462
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Speaker 1: had like two carries for four yards, like they're averaging

463
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Speaker 1: one yard to carry. The Rams were and I know

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers probably have a better defense at

465
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Speaker 1: this point than the Cardinals. But it's not like there's

466
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Speaker 1: some juggernaut running team. No, the Niners secondary really banged up,

467
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Speaker 1: But you're right, the front seven did contain the Rams running.

468
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Speaker 1: They basically did not get any traction running. I think

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Speaker 1: they had sixty yards plus as a team rushing in

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Speaker 1: that game. And you know, look, I mean, if you

471
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Speaker 1: look at what you know the Cardinals did against Dallas,

472
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Speaker 1: holding them to a season low forty five yards rushing

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Speaker 1: on seventeen carries, two point six yards a carry, and

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Speaker 1: then Seattle comes out, it's like Gallows humor. You look

475
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Speaker 1: at it. Two hundred and two yards rushing and Rashad

476
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Speaker 1: Penny at a buck ninety himself. We're talking as a

477
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: team six point seven yards a carry, eight point three

478
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Speaker 1: yards a carry for Penny. I think we've seen. Look,

479
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Speaker 1: the rush defense has been its own roller coaster ride

480
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Speaker 1: at the County Fair all year. I mean, honestly, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: it's been so up and down, and a lot of

482
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Speaker 1: that is just the intensity, the urgency, the energy level.

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Speaker 1: You can see it in how willing and capable guys

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Speaker 1: are of tackling. So that's one of the first things

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Speaker 1: I'll look at in every game. Pop, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, you don't think the defense actually gave the

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Speaker 1: offensive chance to pull away late in the third quarter,

488
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Speaker 1: because there's that specific three and out with about five

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Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter. After the defense got

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Speaker 1: that stop, the Cardinals were at twenty four seventeen at

491
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Speaker 1: that point, they go three and out, Seahawks score right after,

492
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: then another three and out and then the Andy Lee fumble.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like, given everything the injuries in that

494
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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense, they still did a pretty decent job to

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Speaker 1: give the offense an opportunity to pull away. And at

496
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Speaker 1: that point you can go back to back three and

497
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: now it's against russ in that offense. And there have

498
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: been games, there have been five games, now make it

499
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Speaker 1: six games this year where the Cardinals defense has given

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Speaker 1: up more than one hundred and fifty yards rushing and

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Speaker 1: they've won at least half of those games. You're right,

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00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: you can give up rushing yards and still win games.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you could make a case if you wanted

504
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Speaker 1: one single turning point in the game, the botch punt

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Speaker 1: by Andy Lee, you could go there. You could cite

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Speaker 1: red zone. I mean, how do you go nineteen plays,

507
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: fourteen plays, fourteen plays and settle for three field goals.

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Speaker 1: That's incomprehensible. I'm sure the offensive coaches started by looking

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Speaker 1: at that, and you know, and then you can look

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Speaker 1: at that key three and out. I mean, there are

511
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Speaker 1: a lot of turning points and moments to regret. If

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Speaker 1: you're the Cardinals that figured significantly in the loss that

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the defense, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: But to me, if you're going into this Rams game,

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Speaker 1: and we saw the second time around, Sony Michelle is

516
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Speaker 1: not Darryl Henderson, Sony Michelle will stoke it between the tackles.

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Speaker 1: He will break arm tackles. If Cam Akers isn't gonna

518
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Speaker 1: get some more reps. He knocked off the rust in

519
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: his season debut, coming off the Achilles injury in the offseason,

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00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's another tough tackle as well. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna be an issue. No, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: Because you're gonna have guys flying around on Monday Night

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Speaker 1: football in a playoff game, I don't think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the problem. I think if you really want to

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Speaker 1: boil it down to your point, Darren, do the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have an answer for Aaron Donald. Do the Rams have

527
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Speaker 1: an answer for Kyler Murray? Because they didn't the first

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Speaker 1: time around his Sofi Stadium. He was the difference in

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Speaker 1: that game. If you wanted to pick a player the game,

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Speaker 1: it was Kyler Murray. So those to me are the

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Speaker 1: two big X factors. Do the Rams have an answer

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Speaker 1: for one? Do the Cardinals have an answer for ninety nine?

533
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Speaker 1: And we'll see. And for all the talk we've had

534
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Speaker 1: about the cardinal secondary injuries, that Rams have a ton

535
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Speaker 1: of secondary injuries right now too. If you can hold

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Speaker 1: up enough, you might have some shots down the field.

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00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's still back there. You better be careful there.

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00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: But otherwise, but the first time around in La Jalen

539
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: Ramsey was out there. Heven't playing the second game, they

540
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: went after David Long for example, Right, David Long has

541
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: sons been deep a supplanted by Dante Dayon or I

542
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: think that's the guy anyway, but he's still part of

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Speaker 1: that rotation. But you're right, Jordan Fuller is out for

544
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: the season now, that season ending ankle injury suffered against

545
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: the nine er season, their leading tackler, the safety, and

546
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: then Taylor rap has been dealing with a concussion this week.

547
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: So is he gonna go on Monday night? Is going

548
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: to be cleared in time for that? You're right that

549
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: second here he is banged up. It's it's a fascinating thing.

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Speaker 1: And all I can think of, assuming seeds all hold,

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Speaker 1: all I can think of is that green Bay sitting

552
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: back getting rested, waiting for one of these two teams

553
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Speaker 1: to come to green Bay still banged up, beat up

554
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: on each other, and we're just gonna, you know, take

555
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Speaker 1: advantage and hopefully the Cardinals have a chance. It reminds

556
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Speaker 1: me a little bit and we'll see what happens, Paul,

557
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: but it reminds me a little bit of that of

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Speaker 1: the Packers Ardinals. After the two thousand and nine season.

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00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: You had this fantastic game. The Cardinals were already a

560
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: little beat up. They got even more beat up against

561
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Speaker 1: the Packers and then went to the Saints and on

562
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: the short week just didn't have I had to play

563
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Speaker 1: the Saturday game at the Saints, and after they got

564
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: the adr touchdown run to start the game, Tower Tower,

565
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: it just all went to have that everything and then

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Speaker 1: well and then they lost. They lost DRC and they

567
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: lost Angeles roll on like back to back series. Well,

568
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: DRC was already hurting, so it was almost he was

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Speaker 1: He tried to play, but it was almost like, this

570
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: isn't gonna work. And the Saints were great with breeze

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Speaker 1: and and it's gonna be a short week because with

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Speaker 1: a Monday night game, it's gonna if they if the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals win, they're gonna play the following Sunday, and you're

574
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna know exactly where the winner goes, who they're gonna play,

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00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: where they're gonna go, right, which which reminds me of

576
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and the playoff opener against Atlanta

577
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Speaker 1: because the winner was going to Carolina. And what I

578
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: remember about that was every single Atlanta media member came

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Speaker 1: in Felipe and they already had all their plans book

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Speaker 1: for the next week in Carolina. They had their flights book,

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Speaker 1: they had their hotels. But he had to I mean no,

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Speaker 1: but I mean like they had dinner reservations already in Carolina.

583
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: In Charlotte, they're like, oh yeah, next week, I mean may.

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Speaker 1: They gave the Cardinals zero chance of beating the Falcons

585
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Speaker 1: as the quote worst playoff team to ever enter the

586
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Speaker 1: postseason in history. But at that point, I mean you

587
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: had more talent on offense, right, like Larry Fishield put

588
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: up one of them what best postseason performances. But that

589
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: was a team that an Kuombolden got a touchdown catch

590
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Speaker 1: early in that Falcons game, and then he missed most

591
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Speaker 1: of the Falcons game and he sat out the Panthers

592
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: game because of a hamstring injury. I mean, injuries are

593
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Speaker 1: still happening. And that was a team, the two thousand

594
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Speaker 1: and eight team until they got to the playoffs and

595
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: eder and James found himself a little bit. That was

596
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: the worst rushing team in the NFL. You talk about

597
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: not having balance. The Cardinals had three one thousand yard

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Speaker 1: receivers and they couldn't run the ball to save their lives. Yeah,

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00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: but then it was a different identity in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about the running backs right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good segue. Right, what do we know about

602
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Speaker 1: I mean, Felipe, this could be the Eno Show. There's

603
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Speaker 1: a least a chance based on the health Chase Edmonds,

604
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Speaker 1: James Connor and then Jonathan Ward who also left the

605
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Speaker 1: Seahawks game along with James Connor in the second half,

606
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Speaker 1: So as of this recording, we really have no clarity

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Speaker 1: on that, and everybody, now, Darren, are you expecting any

608
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: sort of clarity by the time we get to the weekends?

609
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Speaker 1: Of course, why would there be any clarity. There's unless

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Speaker 1: you see him on the practice field. That's the only

611
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Speaker 1: thing possibly any I do think there's a chance we'll

612
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Speaker 1: see what they're doing out of the practice field, But

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Speaker 1: in terms of whether they're going to be healthy enough

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Speaker 1: to play, I don't think we know. If I had

615
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Speaker 1: a guess right now as we record this couple days

616
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Speaker 1: out from rip, I think both those guys play. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any way in God's green Earth that

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Speaker 1: those guys are going to say unless they're hurt way

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Speaker 1: worse than I think they are. Do I think if

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Speaker 1: it was a the regular season, might want or both

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Speaker 1: sit out? Yes? Do I think? I think? I think

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00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: James Connor is going to take having on Earth to

623
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Speaker 1: keep him out of this game. I think, Again, this

624
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: is my speculation. I don't know anything, and Chase Edmonds

625
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: has been waiting this whole time to play in a

626
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Speaker 1: playoff game. So now do I think they're gonna be

627
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent? Nope? Do I think there's a chance

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Speaker 1: that they could be limited? Yes? Do I think there's

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Speaker 1: a chance they could get injured again while they're playing

630
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: and get hurt more and it could cause problems down

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Speaker 1: the road. Yeah. But the problem at this point is

632
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: is there is no tomorrow, and so what do you

633
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Speaker 1: unless the guy is really really messed up, what are

634
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Speaker 1: you saving him for? I mean, and if if we're

635
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: talking about a positive, you know, spotlight on that offense

636
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: in week eighteen, I think it was Eno Benjamin in

637
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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter. I mean, he came in, he averaged

638
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: four point four yards per carry, He was a factor

639
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: in the in the passing game, much to like Chase

640
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Edmonds is right when he's in the So I mean,

641
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: you feel good about having Eno Benjamin and him coming

642
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: in with a little bit of confidence. If you give

643
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: him a full work week, then you know, I'm confident

644
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: that they can get them prepared. Now, is he going

645
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: to produce to the level of a James Connor? Is

646
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: he going to produce to the level of a Chase Edmonds?

647
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't necessarily seen it. Obviously, he's been

648
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: in limited opportunities, but it does give you a little

649
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: bit of confidence the way he ended that in that

650
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks game. Because you know what stood out to me,

651
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: among other things in that forty nine Ers win at

652
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: the Rams, was that they never abandoned the run game.

653
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: They got down seventeen nothing yet still ran at thirty

654
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: one times for a buck thirty five and a lot

655
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: of that yardage was between the tackles. It was Elijah Mitchell,

656
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: who's a tough, hard nose North South kind of guy,

657
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: will break arm tackles. We know that Cardinals played Elijah

658
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Mitchell that rookie and was a heck of a draft

659
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: pick for the forty nine ers. If if we know

660
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: James Connor can be that guy, we know, you know,

661
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Chase is underrated between the tackles, but if Eno was

662
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: called upon, can he be that guy to really lead

663
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: a power running attack, Because we all know what happened

664
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: the first time around when the Cardinals got to win

665
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: in Week four, they ran it forty times for two

666
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen yards and they really controlled the game

667
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: and Chase Hammons had over one hundred yards and you know,

668
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: and and that was I think that might have been

669
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: the breakout game for James Conner in terms of scoring

670
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: touchdowns the first one reel one. I just I think that,

671
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: and he did have two touchdowns in that first meeting

672
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Week four, James Conner. Yeah, so if they were both

673
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I would feel way better about this game.

674
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: They're not going to be even if they both play.

675
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: So I'm not. I don't know where to go. I

676
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: think they're a better They're a much better team when

677
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: they can rely on those two guys and to have

678
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: those two guys, and it's sad because what we we

679
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: over the last two months. We've had those guys together

680
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: in one game and it was Detroit and they got

681
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: so sideways that it was of a moot point and

682
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Connor got hurt in that game. Anyways, Yeah, so you

683
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: want to be balanced. Teams have proven the ability to

684
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: beat the Rams when you run the ball and you

685
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: go straight at ninety nine in company the Cardinals do

686
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: that the first time around ball. Do they have the

687
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: backs to do that? And then how tempting is it

688
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: to try and light up their secondary when they're running

689
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of reserves out there, safeties and corners. It's

690
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray more inclined to start trying

691
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: to light it up downfield, and then of course it

692
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: comes back to the pass protection. He's you sighted, Filippe Well,

693
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if you are going to try to light

694
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: it up, you've got to have better production from your

695
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: trio receivers and Christian Kirk aj Green and Anton Wesley.

696
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean they had eight receptions in Week eighteen. I mean,

697
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray holding the ball more a result of

698
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: the receivers not necessarily creating space and getting open or

699
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: is him is it him just overthinking it. Obviously we're

700
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: not necessarily share, but you definitely have to have a

701
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: better performance from that trio receivers. Zach It had a

702
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: phenomenal game in my opinion, but given the injuries in

703
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: that secondary, you kind of have to hope that they're

704
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: going to try to take field shots down the field.

705
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: That vertical game has to be present from the get go,

706
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: and I think that was the difference between that Cowboys

707
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: game and that Seahawks game. You knew that the Cowboys

708
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: secondary wasn't necessarily the strength, so you took shots down

709
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: the field in the first quarter. That's not necessarily something

710
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: we saw on a consistent basis. Obviously, I think Kyler

711
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Marieen miss AJ Green in that first quarter for a

712
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: deep shot. But I mean, you just have to try

713
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: to utilize as much of your talent that you have

714
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: because obviously they are depleted on that side of the ball.

715
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't come out in this game and

716
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: target AJ Green nine times and only have four receptions

717
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: when AJ Green has four catches, but it's on nine targets.

718
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: You see the inefficiency in the lack of chemistry between

719
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: Kyler and AJ Green. Even at this point in the season.

720
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: The other guy will throw out there that we haven't

721
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: talked a lot about. I have no idea where he stands.

722
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. Oh yeah, that's a good one because look

723
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: what Deebo Samuel's done. Now I'm I'm not, but but

724
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a guy to get the ball

725
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: to on the perimeter, get the ball to on some

726
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: jet sweeps or maybe some quick wide receiver screens, you know,

727
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: sort of a Deebo Samuel type role. Look what Debo

728
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: did to that Rams defense keeping them on his sideline

729
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: to sideline. And we know Rondale Moore with the quicks

730
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: and if he is healthy and able to break a

731
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: few tackles. He could be that big play guy, because

732
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: it just seems like the big play has has really

733
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: dried up for the Cardinals offense. Well, the other thing

734
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: I like about the potential of Rondale Moore is that

735
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: if you get him in space on a short pass

736
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: and you do it the right way, maybe that mitigates

737
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: some of what you might be missing with injured running

738
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: backs or limited running yap, good point yep. So you know,

739
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you hand him the ball and you

740
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: got to be careful with the horizontal passing game because

741
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: I know fans get frustrated with that, and I think

742
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: teams in a lot of ways have figured out some

743
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: of that stuff. But I do think that that possibility

744
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: is there, and who knows, maybe you do try deep

745
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: shot once in a while. The rondem more. The problem

746
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: with Rondeal more deep and I know a lot of

747
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: fans are like, why he's got all the speed, why

748
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: don't you try damn deep? I don't try ady his ability.

749
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: The reason is is unless the guy, unless he completely

750
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: beats his man and it's just in stride you, you're

751
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna lose a jump ball with one of

752
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: those guys, and that's what you got to be careful about. Yep, yep,

753
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not like thrown a d aj

754
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: Green or Larry Fitzgerald in his prime, where they're single covered.

755
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: They're still open and they can and they can battle

756
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: for that ball. I mean, it's it's tough. Maybe you

757
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: just get every single Kyle Shanahan game plan against the

758
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: Rams and you try and figure out what Shanahan has

759
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: done because he is seven and three against the Rams

760
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: and Sean McVay and he's five and fifteen against the

761
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: rest of the NFC West as forty nine Ers head coach.

762
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: Think about that, now, maybe that's something to do with

763
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: the fact that McVay and Shanahan were both colleagues together

764
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: in Washington and then became head coaches the same year,

765
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: that first year twenty seventeen, where one took over the

766
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Niners the other took over the Dams. But I mean,

767
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: whatever the Niners are doing against the Rams, and if

768
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: you're looking for a different game plan based on the

769
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: first two, I don't know how necessary change is just

770
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: for the sake of change when you're playing a team

771
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: for the third time. But do you, guys, have a sense,

772
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: because to me, Sean McVay definitely changed things up in

773
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: the rematch a Monday Night Football and what they did

774
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: on offense. Honestly, I'll just say it. I thought they

775
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: were a step ahead of the Cardinals defense in this

776
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: scheme and getting guys open and so whereas I thought

777
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: the Cardinals definitely a step ahead of the Cowboys in

778
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: that game defensively, and Dak was a little confused and

779
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: they weren't able to adapt to a lot of the

780
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: disguises and what they were doing pre snap versus post snap.

781
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how the Cardinals the xs

782
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: and o's and the scheme going against Sean mcvain. What

783
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: he has devised for this matchup's crazy to me is

784
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think off the top of my head.

785
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean, have we have we ever seen the Cardinals

786
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: play a team three times in one season, not counting preseason,

787
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: because that did happen one time with the Packers, but

788
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And even when they did, they

789
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: double dipped the Packers that one year in the two

790
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: thousand and nine season. Basically, wizzen Hunt didn't do anything

791
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: the last week and basically gave up that game, so

792
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: that wasn't even a true test. The only time they've

793
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: had they've doubled up in the playoffs, to my off

794
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the top of my head recollection has been the Panthers

795
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and eight season. That was a

796
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: real competition where the Cardinals quite frankly, I thought were

797
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: the better team when they went to Carolina in the

798
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: middle of the season and just didn't play well enough

799
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: and lost, and I remember thinking that's a missed opportunity,

800
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: and then of course came back with the crazy six

801
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: turnovers of Jake Dilom in the playoffs. But that's the

802
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: only time where I've seen and this is the first

803
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: time three times in one season that's you know, that's

804
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: a hockey series. Well, I mean, I'm looking at my

805
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: notes from the rematch after the Cardinals lost in Week fourteen,

806
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football thirty to twenty three was a final

807
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: and according to next Gen stats, I just cutn't pay

808
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: this into my notes, Matthew Stafford was four for four

809
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: on passes thrown from outside the tackle box. Two of

810
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: us touchdowns came on that on play action. Matthew Stafford

811
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: in that game, seven of eight for a buck twenty

812
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: nine and another touchdown. So his three touchdown passes two

813
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: were outside the tackle box, another one on play action.

814
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: The Cardinals defense allowed three plays of forty plus yards

815
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: in that game. They had allowed three total come in

816
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: into that Week fourteen matchup. Yeah, so the Rams were

817
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: able to do things no opponent had done against the

818
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense up until that point. Regular now now they

819
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: have been given up a lot of big plays. I

820
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: do remember, going back to what you're saying about Stafford

821
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: fitting it into tight windows. I want to say it

822
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: was and you had mentioned earlier Marco Wilson gave up

823
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. One of them he was all

824
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: over whoever it was it was. I think it was cup,

825
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: was a cup. I think it was cup at the pieline.

826
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: It was one of the highline and I think it

827
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: might even deflect it off. Yeah, when you watched the replay,

828
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, how did Marco Wilson not break up

829
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: that pass? And so you know, sometimes the other guy

830
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: just makes place. That's part of it too, and you

831
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: just got to kind of hope that it's not Matthew

832
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Stafford's night. And you're right, that's a far cry from

833
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: what we saw against Seattle, where Breon Borders was nowhere

834
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: close or Freddie Swain was running with a lot of

835
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: open field in front of him twenty five yards virtually

836
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: untouched to the end zone. So I don't expect those

837
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of coverage breakdowns, at least you hope not in

838
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: a playoff game. But if you have a bunch of

839
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: reserves in the secondary and McVeigh and Stafford have had

840
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: that extra day to dial up some really complex stuff

841
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: that you haven't seen on film before, if they're really

842
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: gonna introduce some new stuff, Yeah, that's where my boxers

843
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: start to bunge. So what would you give up? Though?

844
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: Would you give up? You know? So, are you gonna

845
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: put an extra guy in the box or are you

846
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: gonna put Isaiah Simmons, you know, in the slot? Like

847
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: you have to. You have to give up something right

848
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: in order to can't have it all, You're right, can't.

849
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: You can't have the best of both, woulds? So what

850
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: would you give him? I mean, well, and think and

851
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee is back. He did not play in the

852
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: last game. So if Isaiah Simmons is going to be

853
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: on their playmaking tight end, that might be his assignment.

854
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Do you give Zaven Collins more snaps? I mean, you

855
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: saw how he played against the Cowboys, and maybe he's

856
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: in a rotation more with Marcus Golden, which you saw

857
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: against Seattle. Zavin took some of Marcus's snaps in that

858
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: Seattle only a couple though. I mean Zaven Collins played

859
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: nineteen snaps against the Cowboys. He only played eight against

860
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: the so obviously they dialed them back already. Yeah, and

861
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden wasn't available for the Dallas games, so you know,

862
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: it was more out of necessity than anything else, but

863
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: in coverage. To Felipe's point, if you know, if if

864
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: you think about it, what they basically did in the

865
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: second half was they got Brion Borders out of the

866
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: game and they moved Isaiah Simmons into the slot with

867
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: more regularity. So if that's going to be the plan

868
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: from the get go, then maybe Zaven is You're designated

869
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: guy in the tight end unless you get Marco Wilson

870
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: back and you get cornerbacks available. Man. And I think

871
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: part of the part of that obviously had to do

872
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: with the Borders part and just not having bodies because

873
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson's the Peterson thing will be fascinating to see

874
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: if he's available. And the one question that Cliff Kingsbury

875
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: last week was asked about, but Shad Brulin, the first

876
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: thing he said was high football IQ. He's a smart guy.

877
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: So you hope that boats well. He can pick up

878
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: the system and hope won't be an emmy waiting to happen.

879
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: So you know, and an ideal will You're gonna get

880
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: jaj Wat back, You're gonna get Mircol Wilson back, You're

881
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: gonna get Brilin into the secondary. Who else I want? Missing?

882
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: Am I missing anyone on that defense? Uh? Well, I

883
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: mean you'll get some of the backups like you know

884
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: the Joe Walker, the Tanner of lajo or Off, you

885
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: know Jordan Phillips. Maybe maybe an ideal will do you

886
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: get Phillips, Watt, Brilin and Wilson back on that defense.

887
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: And when Jordan Phillips want the ball, he wants the ball.

888
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: He can ruly ball when when he brings it. Yeah,

889
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: he's a difference maker. So with a playoff game in

890
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Monday night football, ample motivation for Big ninety seven to

891
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: have a big game because if this would be the spot.

892
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: This would be the spot put it that way that

893
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: you'd like to think. So, I mean, and let's not

894
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: forget the Cardinals in primetime. Everybody now they're all in three.

895
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: Gotta be a hater, don't you, Paul. I'm just you know,

896
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: these are all things. These are all things that Cardinals

897
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: need to mark down in the locker room. Because if

898
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: we know one thing about the personality of this team

899
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: this year, they respond well to a challenge, do they not?

900
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: So the challenge is going to win in primetime. You

901
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: haven't done that before, going to win the first ever

902
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: playoff game in LA you know, going. I mean, you

903
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: hear all the talk from you know about you know,

904
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: their inability as Sean McVay, they put that to bed.

905
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: That was the impetus supposedly for the big winning Week four.

906
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: So if all these things, you know, you have to

907
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: manufacture some of this stuff at times to really get

908
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: the most is so disappointed that you yeah, well, I'm sorry. Well,

909
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: if it's a reality check for you, some of us

910
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: weren't born at the bottom of a hill by a

911
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: quarrier or whatever the thing is. And with these guys

912
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: making the kind of cash they are, you know, guess

913
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: what they're They're they're living pretty luxurious lifestyle. So sometimes

914
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta give them that boot to the

915
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: rear end of the tailpad. Okay, that's just the way

916
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: it works. Would you guys say that this team performs

917
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: better when there's no expectation set on them, because I mean,

918
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: if you think about the first seven the weeks of

919
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: the season, did anyone really think going into the season

920
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals were going to be the number one

921
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: team in the NFL in the week course? Not exactly.

922
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: And then and then again in Christmas, their backs were

923
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: against we're against the walk because they're coming off that

924
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: terrible loss of the Lions. Didn't necessarily perform well on

925
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: Monday Night football? Did you really expect to be Sean

926
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: mcvain that and that rams off into it. It's funny.

927
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: It's funny because when you bring that up, I feel

928
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: like that's like the history of this franchise. Whenever they're good,

929
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: it is they don't play well when the expectations are good.

930
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: They did a pretty nice job in twenty fifteen for

931
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: most of it until injuries. I think we're the ones

932
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: that really got them a little bit there but but

933
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven they clinched the division earlier, everybody's

934
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: talking about how great they were. They went to they

935
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: didn't do well, and and and uh and and this

936
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a fair point to bring up. I don't

937
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: know why that would be. I mean, part of the

938
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: part of the thing with this team right now is

939
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, JJ Watt not playing right now, but

940
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of a playoff experience. Chandler

941
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Jones got has playoff experience, but he hasn't done it

942
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: in like five years because he's been here. You know

943
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: how much has Riddy Hut's been in the playoffs? A

944
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: little bit? Uh? Zach Ertz? Yes, Yeah, your god, you know,

945
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: your your your quarterback, and your leader doesn't know anything

946
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: about the playoffs. You're you're arguably your best defender. Buddha

947
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: Baker doesn't know anything about the playoffs? Us. Um, you know?

948
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Could I also say though that Matthew Stafford year thirteen,

949
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray year three, and they have one thing in common,

950
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: zero playoff wins between them. Yeah, and so hey, how

951
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: about the rams confidence level coming into this one? We

952
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: know you don't not tell me that the Rams aren't

953
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: wondering how their quarterback is going to perform under the

954
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: bright lights on the big stage. I think, oh, there's

955
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question there's more pressure on

956
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: their rights. Now, I will say this, I do think

957
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: there's pressure on the Cardinals. Most of it is resides

958
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: in the state of Arizona. I don't I don't think

959
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: the national narrative is going to go all in on

960
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals if they lose this playoff game, not at

961
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: this point, because they've already kind of set their their

962
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: their their thoughts, and yeah, I think the I also

963
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are better set up going forward. I

964
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: mean the Rams. I don't know what that Rams roster

965
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: is gonna look like next year. They're going to continue

966
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: to have some issue. Now, the first day of this

967
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: week would became the first day ever that Kyler Murray's

968
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: contract could be addressed. Now, I don't see that happening

969
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: anytime soon. They got playoffs to worry about. But we

970
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: are now in a window where before, even if Kyler

971
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: Murray wanted a new contract, even if the Cardinals wanted

972
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: to give him an extension, they couldn't. It was literally

973
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: illegal to do under the CBA. Now that's out there.

974
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things our old friend

975
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: Kyle Odegardos you always used to talk about, and it's

976
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: totally true, which is the best time for any team

977
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: is for a great quarterback on his rookie contract, because

978
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: once he's not on that rookie contract, then you're doing

979
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: a lot more juggling of your roster and your salary

980
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: cap than you ever were. And the Cardinals are that

981
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: window is closing for them soon, so there is a

982
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: little bit of pressure in that regard. Look, you got

983
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: a Rams team that blew a seventeen nothing lead against

984
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in their home building building that

985
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: was overrun by forty nine are fans? I was about

986
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: to say, was it at Levis when after the game,

987
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: when when Matthew Stafford says we had a hard time

988
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: communicating in the second half as an offense. You were

989
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: at home, so it was a bad dynamic. I am

990
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: curious to see how the Red Sea travels because there

991
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: were quite a few fans and after the game all

992
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: the tickets available there you go, So between that between

993
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: the fact that guess what, Sean McVay had been forty

994
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: five and oh when leading at the half. He's now

995
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: forty five and one, and you got a team that's

996
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: coming in that blew your doors off in the other

997
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: game in that building earlier this year. So I'm curious

998
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: about the Rams confidence level right now, shaking or stirred

999
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. I mean, I am curious how

1000
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: they come out, because if you come out and you

1001
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: take an early lead against the Rams, they might start

1002
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: stressing a little bit. I mean, those fans, they were

1003
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: Dodger fans last time the Cardinals went there on Week four.

1004
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: They left in the seventh inning. I mean they were

1005
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: they were or are out of there when the Cardinals

1006
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: were up thirty seven to fourteen or whatever it was

1007
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: at that point. And look, I'll just say this my

1008
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: final thought as my own psychoanalysis of this team this year,

1009
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: because every team has its own identity. To me, this team,

1010
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: it's like that slacking teenager who does just enough to

1011
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: get an A or B grade in the class in

1012
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: that you know what, Hey, I got off to a

1013
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: good start in the class. I know the finals coming.

1014
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna do is ace the final. I'm good, mom,

1015
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm good. Get off my back, parents. I don't want

1016
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: any I don't want to hear about it. And these

1017
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: little homework assignments and only account for three to four

1018
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: or five percent of the grade. Who cares. I'm gonna

1019
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: ace the final and still get an A or B

1020
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: to me. That's this team. They're like, you know what,

1021
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: we got off to seven and oh we got to

1022
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: ten and two. And then they're like, yeah, you know what,

1023
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: We're good. We're good. Oh you don't think I'm good. Okay,

1024
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: we went out in Dallas and we took care of

1025
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, had won four in a row, coming off

1026
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: a fifty burger. That's just a little reminder for everyone

1027
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: in the household to get off our back so I

1028
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: can go back on Instagram in my bedroom until the

1029
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: final exam comes around. There was only one. There was

1030
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: only one game we played against the playoff team in

1031
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: the last four weeks, and we beat them. Everybody else

1032
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. Thank you, Darren, thank you. You're

1033
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: making my case with mom and dad over here on

1034
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: my back because I'm slacking all the way until the

1035
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: final exam. I mean, that's the way I see this team.

1036
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: I just do. I'm not saying it's right, Yes it

1037
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: is and you know what, what's the common denominator A

1038
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: long stretch between playoff appearances. So there's this feeling of

1039
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: accomplishment that we've already made the playoffs, and there's gonna

1040
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: be a certain percentage of guys who think that's good

1041
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: enough for now. Oh, playoffs aren't good enough for you. You

1042
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: You wanted the division title. Well, of course you want

1043
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: the division title because you wanted play in front of

1044
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: your home fans and you want the home field advantage.

1045
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: But that's not the way all players see it. They

1046
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: don't really care about where the game is being played,

1047
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: as evidenced by the eight and one road record this

1048
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: year by the Cardinals. Look, when they've lost games, they've

1049
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: lost focus. That Lions game is inex aplicable. The Carolina

1050
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: lost at home incomprehensible. It's not they lost those games

1051
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: because they lost focus. When this team has been focused,

1052
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: they've been arguably the best team in the league. So

1053
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm curious what they look like Monday night. There's my rant.

1054
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: Can I can I give you the contrary point of that,

1055
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: because when I was in school and my parents so

1056
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: when I was in school and I had to get

1057
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: good grades to get bonuses like bonus like money down

1058
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: you know under the table I had to get from

1059
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: you from my parents. I'm just saying, apparently Felipe had

1060
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: an incentive late in conscious. I don't want to cut

1061
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: you off, but I know it's wow, here's my bonus

1062
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Speaker 1: that I got, or here here was mine sentive? Get

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00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: good grades or else? Yeah, the grades say that was it?

1064
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: Like if you get good grades, well we'll slide you

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00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: some money. But that's what my point is is, like

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00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: I didn't. You don't get you want money for a grade.

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00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: Your whole job is to get good grades. You don't

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00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: get extra money. Okay, So maybe they ran into this

1069
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: and youth baseball kids would hit a double or triple

1070
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: and they get ten bucks, twenty bucks on. There's no

1071
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: put this household. I'm sorry. Against a rival in high school,

1072
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: you know I would get nil. I made the playoffs

1073
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: for my high school team. You know I would get

1074
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: an incentive. But I feel like this, I feel like

1075
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: the mentality should be that, right. I hope they get,

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00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, incentives for making the playoffs and winning in

1077
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs and making it to the super Boom. My

1078
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: assumption as they do, right, So that well, you do

1079
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: make more. I mean, you get this. It's been six

1080
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: years to refresh my memory. Every single play in that

1081
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: locker room gets a bonus for each additional playoff game, right, correct,

1082
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: So if you win, essentially there's you get extra money,

1083
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, because you get you get you get a

1084
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: bonus for being in this round. It's the same for

1085
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: both teams. But if you win, you get that bonus

1086
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: for the next round too. You got you exactly, And

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00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't even include any incentives you might have in

1088
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: your personal contract about getting things. I want to say

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00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: A J. Green is one that I was looking at that.

1090
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: Uh you combine his certain stats with certain things, and

1091
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: he got he gets bonus, and that's the formative. I'm

1092
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: sure family, Yeah, exactly, you were getting two fifty K.

1093
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure I wasn't getting too fifty K. I just

1094
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: want to put that out there. We're getting something. I'm

1095
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna call my mom and say, what the hell I

1096
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: mean the incentive I got was you get good grades

1097
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: or you'll be a bum. That's what that's used to say.

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00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's your choice. Uh So the one an allowance,

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00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: I'll give you an allowance, I allow you to live

1100
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: under my roof. Wow, that's uh okay, that's uh, it's

1101
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: not bad, it's um. So we had the slacking teenager,

1102
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: the incentive plan and uh and we came full circle

1103
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: on what will be an episode of Botched on Monday

1104
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: night football. Uh you know, once again, one of those

1105
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: one of those analogies that really just got no traction.

1106
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: We are we are you gonna be awake enough after

1107
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: coming back from la in the middle of the night

1108
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: to podcast next Tuesday. Uh oh yeah, come on, now,

1109
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I'm a veteran twenty years of

1110
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: those I remember the East Coast road games, back when

1111
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: the Cardinal used to be in primetime in the East Coast.

1112
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: You come back and do morning radio. So true, yeah,

1113
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: it's thankfully this is nothing. Those days are done, absolutely not.

1114
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, hopefully, hopefully we'll be talking about a

1115
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: short week and most likely, although everyone thought the Cardinals

1116
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: are going to Dallas for their playoff opener, that did

1117
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: not materialize because the football gods are offended when you

1118
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: think you know the future, so they throw you a curveball.

1119
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: But if the Cardinals do indeed win, the overwhelming odds

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Speaker 1: are they would go to Green Bay. Correct, Yes, but

1121
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: the window is not closed for a home beating, Paul,

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00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: That is true. You would need Philly to beat Tampa

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: the Niners to beat Dallas. I actually I think you

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: would need You need both both. You need both. You

1125
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: need both because even though they beat Dallas head to head,

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00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: Dallas is the higher seat because the division. So if

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00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: Philly beats Tampa and Dallas wins, then Philly would go

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00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: to Green Bay and the Cardinals would still go to Dallas. Right,

1129
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Okay, one last thought here, never end.

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Speaker 1: One bonus rant for Craig Grilou who still listening right now.

1131
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Okay, you Craig ps you figured all

1132
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: year you played in the toughest division in the NFL. Correct,

1133
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: we all agree, three playoff teams, most wins of any division. Okay,

1134
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: choose your metric. We'll just now officially arguing we'll go.

1135
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: We'll go with NFC best. Okay for the Cardinals division.

1136
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: So you're thinking, all right, man, if we get the

1137
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys and this they were residing in the NFC East,

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: they don't know what ball is all about, or even

1139
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Tampa and the NFC South, or even Green Bay. You know,

1140
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: and they played in the NFC North, the worst division

1141
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: of them all. But the luck that you end up

1142
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: with a team from your own division in the playoff opener, Yeah,

1143
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, at whereas you would because I tell you

1144
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: what if, then I fully expect the Niners to beat

1145
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I do. That is my expectation. I think

1146
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. And the Cardinals and Rams, if

1147
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: they were in separate playoff games, I think you would

1148
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: have at least two NFC West teams advancing into Round

1149
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: two of the playoffs. It's how good. If the Niners

1150
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys, then you guarantee that you're not going

1151
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. There you go. You've got a Tampa

1152
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: probably so all my buddies is still reside in the

1153
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Silicon Party and load up my phone with all these

1154
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: text mess about the n Eagles upset Tampa and you

1155
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: got a home game, a home game against the Niners. Yeah,

1156
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: but a home game. And on that sort of unbridled optimism.

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Speaker 1: We leave you on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by

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