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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by calllighta health all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Welcome in a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and uh, we are gonna,

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Speaker 2: you know, entertain draft conversation today, but we'll explain in

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Speaker 2: a little bit how we deviate from that ever so

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Speaker 2: slightly today with our topic ad discussion, which we'll get

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Speaker 2: to in short order. Beautiful day here in Western New

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Speaker 2: York spectacular and I had to steve, out of necessity

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Speaker 2: cut my lawn. It was getting embarrassingly long.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to hold out start of the season

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Speaker 2: because when you think about it, even though summer here

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Speaker 2: is really only like three months, maybe a little longer

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Speaker 2: if you're lucky, the mowing season seems to be getting

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Speaker 2: longer and longer. Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Because now we're starting in mid April and sometimes you're

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Speaker 2: still cutting your grass a week after Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I had the conversation with my when my wife's it's

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Speaker 4: just getting to that point. But unlike you, you can't

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Speaker 4: embarrass me about my law, right, so I don't really care.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let it grow because if I if I

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Speaker 4: go on that lawn. Now I'll leave like muddy footprints

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Speaker 4: on my lawn. It's so wet out. I need another

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Speaker 4: three or four days of this weather like this before

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Speaker 4: I could even walk across it and feel good about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not mowing it. I'm not moaning until I'm might

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Speaker 4: have to mow it twice the first time I mow it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fortunately for me, the grass that grows longest is

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Speaker 2: in my backyard because it gets full sun all day long.

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Speaker 2: But it grows like a weed man like my dog

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Speaker 2: goes out to do her business and she's like knee deep.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was getting bad. I had to. I

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Speaker 2: mean I had my you had my mower deck on

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Speaker 2: the highest setting.

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Speaker 4: A fenced in yard. So no it's not fenced because

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Speaker 4: I not that that matters. But it gets full sun

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Speaker 4: and there's no wind or anything, it just get it

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Speaker 4: just bakes.

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Speaker 2: We get winds.

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Speaker 4: So if you get if it, if there's no wind

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Speaker 4: and it gets warm and sunny and it gets yeah,

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Speaker 4: it grows.

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Speaker 2: I mean I have a swampy and watch it. Irony

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Speaker 2: is the swampy end of my yard. The grass is

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Speaker 2: not growing fast. It's the high ground. So I mean

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Speaker 2: I know it's rained a ton in the last week

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Speaker 2: or so, and that's probably the biggest reason for it.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was just very thankful that my

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Speaker 2: battery for the starter on my lawn tractor just fired

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Speaker 2: right up. Isn't that the moment of trepidation for every

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Speaker 2: every guy the first time you get out you hook

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Speaker 2: up your battery, because I've made the mistake of leaving

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Speaker 2: it in and sitting in the shed all winter, and

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Speaker 2: that's probably not good either, So I've I take it

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Speaker 2: out every season. Now I put it in my basement,

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Speaker 2: you know, one of those classic put it in a cool,

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Speaker 2: dry place. So I bring it out and I hook

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Speaker 2: it up again. And you always got your fingers crossed

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Speaker 2: that there's still enough of a charge in there where

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Speaker 2: you can at least get get the first crank going,

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Speaker 2: because then once you start running it and cutting the grass,

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Speaker 2: you're charged up for the You're good for the season

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Speaker 2: after that. It's the first one where you're kind of

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Speaker 2: got your fingers and toes crossed open.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to jump it with your car back

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Speaker 4: in the day. You grab that cord, you think, you

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Speaker 4: know you come on.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thought, Come on, baby, turn over for

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Speaker 2: me one.

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Speaker 4: More year, you know. Uh, yeah, I'm totally with you, totally.

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Speaker 2: With lawn tractor is a dinosaur. I mean, my dad

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Speaker 2: would be very proud of me that I have a

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Speaker 2: lawn actor from two thousand and six. But she's still going.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's yeah, it's real. The trepidation is real.

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Speaker 4: But it's time. That is that Yeah, that time.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mind. I really don't because I I'd

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Speaker 2: rather be out in nice weather it's cutting my lawn

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Speaker 2: than in lousy weather it's snow blowing my drive.

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Speaker 4: We talk about it every so often. Man. This is

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Speaker 4: one of the things that makes Western New York it's cool.

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Speaker 4: That great about Western New York weather is the fact

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Speaker 4: that we get four hard seasons and uh.

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Speaker 2: Summer shorter than others.

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Speaker 4: Summer shorter than others. Some are more pleasant than others.

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Speaker 4: But you know what season it is when you go outside. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and uh, this is the transition from spring to summer

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Speaker 4: kind of weather. Is It's real because my my lawn

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Speaker 4: it grows like a jungle when it's growing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: my wife's garden everything. So you got it, you know

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Speaker 4: how it is? You got to have almost a schedule.

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Speaker 4: You almost get your body you can almost set your

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Speaker 4: body clock to how many times you got to mow

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Speaker 4: the lawn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The only time where it gets tricky is you

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Speaker 2: got to be proactive because you know, you'd figure your

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Speaker 2: lawn for a certain point in the spring. You gotta

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Speaker 2: cut it once a week, right, maybe in the dead

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Speaker 2: of summer you could stretch it after that, you know,

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Speaker 2: where it's not growing as fast because it's dry and

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Speaker 2: it's hot. But you're not proactive about staying in front

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Speaker 2: of that. And then you get two three days of

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Speaker 2: rain and you got to wait for it to dry out.

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Speaker 2: Now you're at ten days, you know, and now you're

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Speaker 2: the embarrassment in the neighborhood. I have meticulous neighbors where

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Speaker 2: if they don't if they don't have a lawn service,

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Speaker 2: they're out there like they're going. So you quite literally

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Speaker 2: have to keep up with the Joneses. Otherwise you get

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Speaker 2: guilted into you know, got the worst lawn on the block.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got.

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Speaker 2: It's not good. It's not it's not a good place

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Speaker 4: Steve, Well, you know, you're right, you're right, But like

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm I'm kind of got.

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Speaker 2: You're kind of tucked away nobody. You can do whatever

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Speaker 2: the heck you want. Bryane is on display now.

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Speaker 4: You have to drive up to my house to see

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Speaker 4: my lawn.

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Speaker 2: I got neighbors behind me. I got neighbors me to

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Speaker 4: The in the finger quotes country. You know those neighbors

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Speaker 4: aren't quite so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've You've got a lot now that I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: about it, You've got a lot more leeway than I do.

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Speaker 2: The only the only people looking at your lawn or

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Speaker 2: the deer in the woods.

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Speaker 4: My lawn's not getting mode, and they don't care. My

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Speaker 4: lawn's not getting mode until I'm good and ready.

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Speaker 2: How much longer are you think you'll be able to

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Speaker 2: hold out?

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Speaker 4: Not long.

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Speaker 2: A week?

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Speaker 4: Maybe, yes, it'll be it all Well, it's gonna start

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Speaker 4: raining again at the end of the week, so it

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Speaker 4: maybe I may push it back again, but I'm like you,

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Speaker 4: I may have the things set up as high as

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Speaker 4: it will go, maybe moaning it, you know, longer than

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Speaker 4: I would actually almost go back and cut it twice, right,

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Speaker 4: and I probably will. I'll probably that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL. Not a whole lot going

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Speaker 2: on as we sit, just over a week away from

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Speaker 2: Night one of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Around

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Speaker 2: the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and we have an update, Steve from

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Speaker 2: one Daniel Jones, quarterback of your New York Giants. He

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Speaker 2: said in an interview he expects to be cleared by

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Speaker 2: training camp. As for those that forgot, he suffered an

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Speaker 2: ACL injury during the season last year apparently, and the

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Speaker 2: timing is not good for one Daniel Jones, who I've

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Speaker 2: been on record for a couple of years now saying

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Speaker 2: I am no fan of as a franchise signal caller.

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Speaker 2: Why they signed him to one hundred and forty million

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Speaker 2: dollar contract. Yes, you were a little bit between a

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Speaker 2: rock and a hard place because you didn't have a

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Speaker 2: better answer at the time, But heck, I would have

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Speaker 2: drafted somebody and rolled the dice.

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Speaker 4: In any event, he needs to be back for training camp,

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Speaker 4: so we can back up JJ McCarry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, this is that's the thing. So

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Speaker 2: you and I were talking about this before we came

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Speaker 2: on the air today, and I am of the belief

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Speaker 2: that they are firmly in the market for a quarterback

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Speaker 2: at six, and I think they may even trade up

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Speaker 2: to get the to ensure they get the fourth quarterback,

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Speaker 2: like doing a deal with the Cardinals at four, moving

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Speaker 2: up two spots get the fourth guy. As long as

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Speaker 2: you know, they'd be happy with who falls there. But

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Speaker 2: I think if the top three come off the board

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Speaker 2: the way they think, and they really like JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: as the fourth, I think they're moving up to the

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Speaker 2: four hole. I think they're gonna take a quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: I think I'm My belief in that is only strengthened

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Speaker 2: by the fact that Daniel Jones isn't gonna be doing

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Speaker 2: a Your number one guy can't even do it if

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Speaker 2: you wanted him to, why not draft a young kid,

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Speaker 2: get him in the pipeline. He's gonna take all the

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Speaker 2: more justify putting him on the feet in week one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Should we? I just I don't want Jake. Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones couldn't get it done if he was healthy. Let's

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Speaker 2: You, right, They should have moved on. They should have

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Speaker 2: moved Fifteen touchdown passes still can't get past that's and

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Speaker 2: they signed him to a one hundred and forty million

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Speaker 2: dollar contract after a fifteen touchdown pass season. I know

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Speaker 2: he ran for seven also, but my god.

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Speaker 4: It's just he's just not getting it done. He's not

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Speaker 4: good enough, especially when he got Jalen Hurts looking at

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Speaker 2: And that's a guy that had saked down Barkley in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just can't get come on. He It's almost

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Speaker 4: like the the Giants had Eli. And Eli was physically

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Speaker 4: gifted like Daniel Jones. It's about the same.

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Speaker 2: But Eli was, Oh, he couldn't run like Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: He was smarter though, you know, Eli saw it better

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Speaker 4: th kN Eli. Let's get Daniel Jones. At least he

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Speaker 4: can run a little bit. He's he's about they're about

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Speaker 4: the same. Well, and they're not the same quarterbacks from

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Speaker 4: the neck up and every and you know everything else

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Speaker 4: you kind of make do with. And Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 4: just he's just not He's just not good enough.

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Speaker 6: Just a guy.

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Speaker 4: He is just not good enough.

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Speaker 2: And so here too. Four one, Daniel Jones is destined

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Speaker 2: to be a backup quarterback for most, if not the

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Speaker 2: rest of his career. He has got Marcus Mariota written

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Speaker 2: all over him. That's that's the trajectory of his career

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Speaker 2: going forward.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that you're right, that's that's what you're looking at.

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Speaker 4: He's case Keenum, He's can he Pickett, He's go down

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Speaker 4: the list. You know, he's Sam Donald. He's a little

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Speaker 4: better than Sam Donald. But you know, you wouldn't you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't mind. You wouldn't mind, you know, having Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: go and finish a game, you know, and maybe spots

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Speaker 4: That well, we've seen other teams take a big punch

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Speaker 2: You think they might do it post draft maybe, but

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing, I mean, you look at what

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Speaker 4: all that stuff going on with Russ Wilson. They're paying

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Speaker 4: for him, to not play for him, the Bills trade

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Speaker 4: like a guy like they trade Steph Diggs. He's on

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Speaker 4: the cap for thirty one point one, but they're.

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Speaker 2: Not paying in eighteen to five. It's not happening. Oh,

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Speaker 2: sixty nine million dollar cap hit. Let me see what

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Speaker 2: happens if they do it after June first, though, because

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Speaker 2: maybe that's a more sixty nine sixty nine point three's

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Speaker 2: This will be the third year of that deal, right, No,

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Speaker 2: it's second second full year, I believe, if I have, really,

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Speaker 2: I think he was.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna be it was gonna be

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Speaker 2: Last year was the first year of the extension. Oh boy, pretty,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty.

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Speaker 4: That means that means they get whacked in him. Oh

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Speaker 4: my gosh, that's a gut punch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see if they do it's a gut punch.

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Speaker 2: So if they if they move on from him after

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Speaker 2: June first, Oh, it's only forty seven million, they'll be

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Speaker 4: If JJ we don't have that room under the cap,

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Speaker 4: right and j McCarthy. Well, they got it. They at

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Speaker 4: it anyway. What's he taking? What's the hit now? The

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's forty seven eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that he's.

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Speaker 2: Gone goes down to forty seven on. They save a

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Speaker 4: He's gone gone.

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Speaker 2: Ohst June first, thanks for coming that. Hey, that's a

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Speaker 2: draft mccarr. Yes, I believe that will happen.

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Speaker 4: He's Daniel Jones is gonna be a free agent June

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Speaker 2: Not healthy enough to play at the moment.

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Speaker 4: M He'll land pretty He'll land pretty soft on forty

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Speaker 4: two million dollar though. Cap hit.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got a guarantee salary of thirty six so

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Speaker 2: that's you know that got guaranteed presumably, And Marie yourself.

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Speaker 4: Take a shot at JJ McCarthy and if he stinks,

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Speaker 4: that's fine too, because then you just go right back

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Speaker 4: through the loop next year. Yeah, baby, Yeah, I think they're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna I think they're gonna do it, and I'm not.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's the answer either not nothing, and.

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Speaker 4: It could be yeah, any one of those.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people love him. I'm a

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Speaker 4: Talking about you know, we're talking about Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 4: and Drake May going one, two, three, And when you

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Speaker 4: pick your order, I know Caleb Williams will go one May,

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Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Mike Pennock, JJ McCarthy. And then

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Speaker 4: you got the guys like Bo Nick, Spencer Rad. I

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Speaker 4: think Nicks might even go before Jordan Travis. Theyve got

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Speaker 4: a ton of guys. You know, A guy I think

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Speaker 4: that's gonna jump up a little higher as a guy

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Speaker 4: is Joe Milton because of his traits.

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Speaker 2: He's a tools guy. Yeah, he's a tools guy, but

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing, I mean, dude, that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we like mark it down. As soon as they

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Speaker 2: as soon as they make J. J. McCarthy the pick

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Speaker 2: at four, they move up to four of who knows,

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Speaker 2: maybe they get lucky and they get him at six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: mark it down. Daniel Jones, post you one.

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Speaker 4: He'll stop buying green bananas right at least in New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: In New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: So there's that. And then Courtland Sutton, the wide receiver

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Speaker 2: this time as he seeks a new contract. I don't

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Speaker 2: know clearly with Jerry Judy Gohann, he has needed more

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Speaker 2: in that offense. I don't know, like they they're bringing

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Speaker 2: be in the market like they like bo Nicks. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to take him at twelve,

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Speaker 2: but maybe later.

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Speaker 4: To get him. They're going to get him, and you

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Speaker 4: don't want to wait. Courtland Sutton had didn't I see

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Speaker 4: reported he had some clean up surgery on his ankle

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Speaker 4: this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that, but I wouldn't doubt it. It's

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Speaker 2: his age twenty nine season. He's got a cap figure

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Speaker 2: of seventeen to three for a number one wide out.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty affordable. Now you know why he wants a

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Speaker 2: thirteen thirteen and a half. It's a pretty affordable player. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: age twenty nine season, So I think the I think

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Speaker 2: the Broncos are like, yeah, we're not doing anything and

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Speaker 2: take you as is right.

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Speaker 4: This is a rough year for the Broncos anyway. Obviously

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Speaker 4: for all the stuff they've been through in the last

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Speaker 4: year and a half, Sean Payton's not gonna sit still.

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Speaker 4: And let's face it, Sean Payton is the kind of

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Speaker 4: guy that's going to go all when he gets the

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Speaker 4: team he wants. He goes all in every year, draft

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Speaker 4: next year's draft picks, give him away, pay the guy

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Speaker 4: to keep him, push everything down the road. I mean

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Speaker 4: Mickey Loomis down there. I mean it was every all

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Speaker 4: you know they're still they're finishing every season, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I just jump through flaming hoops they do, so.

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Speaker 4: Get back under That's I would imagine Sean Payton's going

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Speaker 2: In Denver, NFL Networks, Peter Schrager released his first mock draft,

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Speaker 2: and what's different about his mock draft is he picks

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Speaker 2: his various array of NFL sources, which is mostly club related.

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Speaker 2: And for the Bills at twenty eight, he had them

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Speaker 2: staying there at twenty eight and taking ad Mitchell off

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Speaker 2: to tell you, if the Bills can sit at twenty

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Speaker 4: Well, they will see happy there. Somebody's going to be

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Speaker 4: their Xavier Worthy and ad Mitch I would not be

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Speaker 4: as xaviorly get Lad mcconkie'll be there, Ricky pearsoll. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there'll be some guys there that we've been talking about

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Speaker 4: and we'll just wait to see what they look like.

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Speaker 4: But you can bet I'll say this, I think the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had Marvin Harrison and Adunza going five and

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Speaker 2: trade with the Giants. He has the Giants taking JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: Neighbors at nine.

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Speaker 4: It's because I don't know if Malik Nables will be

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he will either.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I get it at the point that's early.

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Speaker 4: It's a high top ten pick, no question for.

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Speaker 2: The those that are wondering. He has Brian Thomas going

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Speaker 2: I see the Steelers taking an offensive lineman. They need

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of stuff on social that people try

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Speaker 4: and get inside what coaches do. Last year, at this time,

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Speaker 4: Mike Mike Tomlin to the Steelers was hanging around all

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Speaker 4: hanging around the offensive line. They up, are they gonna

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Speaker 2: Speaking of wide receivers, Peter Schrager in his mock draft

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Speaker 2: has eight receivers coming off the board in round one,

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Speaker 2: which would be a new record. The record for most

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Speaker 2: receivers he was taken in round one is seven. That

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Speaker 2: A d Mitchell picked twenty four to the Cowboys, then

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Speaker 2: then at thirty one he has the Niners taken Lad mcconkeye,

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Speaker 2: University of Washington. So yeah, I do. I will say this, Steve,

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Speaker 2: ever since the Rashi Rice Rode incident, right, you can

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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, absolutely, he's gonna he's He's got bigger problems

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think that the chance is

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Speaker 4: you're Andy Reid and those guys, there is no way

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Speaker 4: He he was. He became their number one, not because

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Speaker 4: So the Chiefs look, they look more desperate for a

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Speaker 4: So yeah, something's gonna something's gonna give there. And I

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Speaker 2: I think the only thing I got. I think the

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Speaker 2: not re sign Donovan Smith, who started at left tackle

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Speaker 2: the guy that lined up off sides but didn't get

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Speaker 2: called for it or lined up too far off the line,

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Speaker 2: I should.

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Speaker 4: Say, and he left early, yes, consistently.

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Speaker 2: So you can make an argument that they might want

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Speaker 2: to take an offensive tackle there. But if the value

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Speaker 2: isn't there because the run on offensive tackles has already happened,

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Speaker 2: I could see him taking a receiver. Yeah, especially with

446
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Speaker 2: the Rashi Rice situation.

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Speaker 4: And that's a deep draft in tackle too. Yes, it

448
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Speaker 4: is so run as deep as receiver, So there'll be

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Speaker 4: a guy there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it prompts them to take.

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Speaker 4: I also heard that there's the record is twenty offensive

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Speaker 4: players taken in the first round of the NFL Draft twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's the record, and a lot of people think that's that's.

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Speaker 2: There might only be one defensive player taken in the

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Speaker 2: top ten, Dallas Turner, the pass rusher, because the Falcons

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Speaker 2: need one. I told you they pick at eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I told you that over under for tackles, quarterbacks,

458
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Speaker 4: and receivers was twenty. I'm maybe not quite that high.

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Speaker 4: It's it's maybe sixteen sixteen. Yeah, it'll be sixteen of

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Speaker 4: those sixteen. It'll be sixteen of those guys.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, it will be an offensive heavy first round.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt about that, because even

463
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Speaker 2: some of those positions where you may only see one

464
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Speaker 2: player come off the board, like a tight end, for example,

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Speaker 2: you are going to get one tight end in the

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Speaker 2: first round, that's brock Boers. But you're not going to

467
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Speaker 2: get like one safety in the first round, presumably, right.

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Speaker 2: You might get three or four corners, no, say probably

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Speaker 2: no linebackers, probably two, maybe three defensive tackles, and then

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Speaker 2: probably about three pass rushers, maybe four. That's it. You're

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Speaker 2: talking maybe eight or nine defensive players. Ten On the

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Speaker 2: high end, you might have twenty two offensive players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the first round. There's a bunch. It's gonna

475
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Speaker 4: be like that. That's always, that's the way it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: I was just thinking, because we're talking about this Pete

477
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Speaker 4: Schreger mock draft, and he's got all these guys going,

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Speaker 4: all the seven wide receivers, eight wide receivers going, and

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Speaker 4: I was just wondering, so if you get this, because

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Speaker 4: we've been talking about this and this fascinates me, this

481
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Speaker 4: New York Giants trade from six to four. And I

482
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Speaker 4: was just looking at the draft as I'm doing I'm

483
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Speaker 4: using the Rich Hill drafting. That's that means six. That

484
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Speaker 4: means they need to go from six to four. They

485
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Speaker 4: need thirty, they need like twenty five value points. That

486
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Speaker 4: means they'd have to trade the sixth pick overall and

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Speaker 4: a fourth round pick, a mid fourth round pick to

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Speaker 4: get two spots up in the top ten.

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Speaker 2: He has him given up this year's third round pick,

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Speaker 2: next year's second rounder.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty expensive. That's your two spots way over. That's

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Speaker 4: way over.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot, but people will overpay for Nobody cares

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Speaker 4: if you get the right guy, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: That's almost a that's like car that.

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Speaker 2: I would expect Joe Shane to try to take a

498
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Speaker 2: page out of Brandon Bean's book and not give up

499
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Speaker 2: a future one.

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Speaker 4: Well right, well, by values draft, it's not that far.

501
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Speaker 4: Its two picks. It's only two picks, so you get

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Speaker 4: like a this this says it's to be a fourth,

503
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Speaker 4: A middle fourth. Yeah, like one sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I think what the gms around the league uses somewhere

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Speaker 2: between the Jimmy chart in this chart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a somewhere in between. Everybody's coming up with

507
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Speaker 4: their own now, but whatever, I'm just saying, it's always

508
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Speaker 4: seems really expensive to move up. And and I'll admit

509
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Speaker 4: that's this chart that I'm using, this rich hilture. That

510
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Speaker 4: doesn't seem like that expensive a fourth round pick to

511
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Speaker 4: jump up two spots in the top ten. Because here's

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Speaker 4: the those guys.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna take more than that.

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Speaker 4: I think so too. I think so too.

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Speaker 2: That's because I mean, here, they've got third round pick

516
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Speaker 2: at seventy next year's second round or plus they're pick

517
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Speaker 2: at six. That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot to chew.

518
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Speaker 4: I don't like it, and I don't know for a

519
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Speaker 4: guy that's the fourth choice of three other teams. Brother,

520
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Speaker 4: maybe not the.

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Speaker 2: Fourth then, all right, So that's around the NFL discussion

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Speaker 2: that we have with you too. I mean, look, if

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Speaker 2: you want want to discuss drafts, or you have any

524
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Speaker 2: questions about prospects or things to think the Bills might

525
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Speaker 2: want to do, you can let us know. But our

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion today concerns the current roster. Obviously, we've

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Speaker 2: seen a lot of turnover on Buffalo's roster thus far

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Speaker 2: this offseason. So our question that we put to you today,

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Speaker 2: which Bills defensive player are you counting on the most

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Speaker 2: this season? It's probably a different name than you probably

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Speaker 2: had in mind last season. So you tell us at

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Speaker 2: ato three to five point fifty one eight eight eight,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty two, five fifty the number to get

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Speaker 2: on board. Which Bills defensive player are you counting on

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Speaker 2: the most this coming season? And that could be new

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Speaker 2: additions to the defensive side of the ball, Guys that

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Speaker 2: they re signed, players that have been under contract. Find

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Speaker 2: somebody on the defensive side of the ball that you're

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Speaker 2: putting your money on and counting on to help carry

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Speaker 2: that unit. Here in the twenty twenty four season at

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Speaker 2: three five point fifty one, eight eight eight, five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty those are the numbers to join us. Got

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Speaker 2: open lines for you there, or you can hit us

544
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Speaker 2: up on the tweet sheet as always at One Bill's Live.

545
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Speaker 2: Does a name come to you immediately when we say

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Speaker 2: that out loud? Somebody got to count on defensively, like

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Speaker 2: does a name pop to the top of your head?

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Speaker 4: Like the guy I think about now that is the

549
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Speaker 4: most dependable and the guy that you think, yeah, okay

550
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Speaker 4: is Bernard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's where l Bernard.

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Speaker 4: He played really well last year. Uh, and it was Milano,

553
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Speaker 4: but I you know, Milano's that injury is seems to

554
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Speaker 4: be more serious. It's weird. It's a weird injury. We

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Speaker 4: talked about a little bit last week on the show.

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Speaker 4: He had a call or ask about it. It's just

557
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Speaker 4: an unusual football injury. Don't know about Milano.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brandon Being told us when we talked to

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Speaker 2: him on the show with the combine that he expects

560
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Speaker 2: Milano to be back at training camp and even then

561
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Speaker 2: he's supposed to be working on the side at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's not it's not an ACL. You know,

563
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Speaker 2: it's not an Achilles, but he's tracking on the same

564
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Speaker 2: path that Tredevius White did his first year back from

565
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Speaker 2: the ACL injury. Remember him, he was on the he

566
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Speaker 2: was at training camp, but he was working on the side.

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Speaker 2: That's the prognosis for Milano.

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Speaker 4: Right how how careful you want to be with Milano

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Speaker 4: if you get him, if you get him back one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent, that's kind of what you want. The guy's

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Speaker 4: an enormous difference maker. Let me you think about the

572
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Speaker 4: plays you watch him make. It's like he sees it

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Speaker 4: and he's gonna he just this play against the Jets

574
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Speaker 4: that we're watching right now, he saw it and you

575
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Speaker 4: could you could have told him the play for sure

576
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Speaker 4: before the ball was snapped. He couldn't have got there

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Speaker 4: any faster.

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Speaker 2: How About when he folded Mike White like a lawn

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Speaker 2: chair two years.

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Speaker 4: Ago, Oh my gosh, that was just it's just delicious,

581
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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, yeah, Milano has been a fantastic

582
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Speaker 4: player since the since the day walked on the on

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Speaker 4: the field for the Buffalo Bills, and uh, they they'd

584
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Speaker 4: love to have him back one hundred percent. So they're

585
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Speaker 4: going to treat him with kid gloves, and you know

586
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Speaker 4: he'll struggle to get it. He may feel like he

587
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Speaker 4: wants to play a lot earlier than they'll let him,

588
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So we'll see. But yeah,

589
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: but the guy that you can depend on is the

590
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Speaker 4: guy right next to him and Bernard the guy had

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Speaker 4: a great first year as a starter, a great first.

592
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Speaker 2: Year, arguably the most productive player across all defensive categories

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Speaker 2: for the Bills last season his first year as a starter.

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Speaker 2: So we'll ask you, though, which Bill's defensive player are

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Speaker 2: you counting on the most this coming season? Eighth three

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Speaker 2: zero five eight eight five fifty two five fifty more

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Speaker 2: of your phone calls when we return here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Who is the defensive player you are counting on the

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Speaker 2: most for the Bills for the upcoming twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 2: Slight deviation from draft talk, but still very much roster related.

602
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Speaker 2: And we know that the defense is going to be

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Speaker 2: getting some roster reinforcements from the draft and possibly even

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Speaker 2: from undrafted rookie signings and late free agent signings as

605
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: we saw last year in the spring and early summer

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Speaker 2: but is there a defensive player you're counting on the

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Speaker 2: most eight h three zero five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five point fifty two five point fifty And

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Speaker 2: we go to the phones and leading us off today

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Speaker 2: is Judy in Buffalo? What's up? Judy?

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Speaker 8: Okay, I've we've been listening to this type about all

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Speaker 8: these quarterbacks who are going to go pap four, five,

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Speaker 8: six seven all this time. I wonder if most of them,

614
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Speaker 8: even the most challenged, aren't being set up for instant

615
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Speaker 8: mediocrity because their teams do not have adequate receivers. You know,

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Speaker 8: I've been harping on this for two years. I think

617
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 8: the bill are in good shape. They have Conca, they

618
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Speaker 8: have care, they have Samuels, but they still need that

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Speaker 8: one dynamic player who can make a difference. We cannot

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Speaker 8: beat the Cincinnati Bengals for one reason. They have a

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Speaker 8: quarterback and they have dynamic receivers, and it won't be

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Speaker 8: any difference this year unless unless we get that person.

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Speaker 8: But I go back, you know, these quarterbacks that are

624
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Speaker 8: coming into the league, I think there's so much hype

625
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Speaker 8: it's ridiculous, Okay, because those teams that they're going to

626
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Speaker 8: don't have the talent that they need to succeed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And unfortunately that's the case because those teams

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Speaker 2: that need the most help are the ones that are

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Speaker 2: picking at the top of the draft.

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Speaker 4: It's a classic problem that you're right, and Brownie and

631
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Speaker 4: I have gone round and round about it, and I

632
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Speaker 4: don't know if I'm in the same boat as you, Judy,

633
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Speaker 4: because most of these guys come in and it's not

634
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Speaker 4: because they don't have weapons around him, is because the

635
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Speaker 4: team doesn't draft offensive lineman or sign a good offensive

636
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Speaker 4: line for him. You look back to Joe Burrow in

637
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Speaker 4: his first year or two. He got crushed his first

638
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Speaker 4: couple of years in the league, and then they finally

639
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: got him and got him held him upright, and he

640
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Speaker 4: went to the Super Bowl. They were headed to the

641
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl his first Remember, he got to the Super

642
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Speaker 4: Bowl and he was got He got sacked like sixty

643
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Speaker 4: five times. He had sacked nine times in the AFC

644
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Speaker 4: Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Right, sacked nine times in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Right, So he was getting just knocked around like a

647
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Speaker 4: ping pong ball. They come back the next year, he

648
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Speaker 4: got hurt and got his ankle or got his knee hurt,

649
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Speaker 4: lost that season, came back the next year, and now

650
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Speaker 4: he had his calf hurt, then his knee.

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Speaker 2: And his calf in training camp. Then he had a

652
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Speaker 2: wrist injury.

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Speaker 4: It's like the problems with the young receiver are twofold one.

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Speaker 4: They don't have enough help around him, which is because

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Speaker 4: that's because the team was so bad the year before.

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Speaker 4: That's why they got to draft this guy. And they

657
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: don't build it from the inside out. They build it

658
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: from the edge. It they you know, they sell tickets,

659
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: they buy the receivers, they get the quarterback. Here we go,

660
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: got this young crew, and then there's no offensive line.

661
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: They got no running game, they got no they got

662
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: no pass protection, and it all burns up and the

663
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: rookies in his first year. I think instead of if

664
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get one of these young rookies, the rest

665
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 4: of your draft should be offensive linemen, because at least

666
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: you could run it right, you can hand it off.

667
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: Then even if he's as bad as Daniel Jones, you

668
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: can throw for fifteen touchdowns and run for seven, you know,

669
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Speaker 4: and make forty two million. That's why I think, that's

670
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: why I see it. You're right, these young guys come

671
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 4: in with a lot of hype because it's the next

672
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: thing on the on the NFL's schedule, and you know

673
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: how the NFL is. If it's on the schedule, it's hyped, right.

674
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Speaker 2: And this draft and these players.

675
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this draft and these players there are the best

676
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 4: things since sliced bread. And they're going to be great,

677
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: and some of them will be. But I'm telling you

678
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: right now, these they go four quarterbacks. Chances are one

679
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: of them is gonna be pretty good at least, if

680
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: not really good, and the other three will be somewhere

681
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: between just okay and out of the league. Yeah, and

682
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean, that doesn't mean it's going to be

683
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: an exact one and.

684
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Speaker 2: A lot of it and history will show this. And

685
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: this doesn't go just for quarterbacks. It goes for a

686
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: lot of players. Situation in which you're dropped, you.

687
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Speaker 4: Know, if you're everything.

688
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you can think about all the players that

689
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: may have had their careers curtailed and cut shorter because

690
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: they landed in a place where either a they didn't

691
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: have a coaching staff that could help develop them, or

692
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: b if they're a player like a wide receiver and

693
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback upon which they are wholly dependent

694
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Speaker 2: for their success. They have a quarterback worth of darn,

695
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: they're not gonna do much either. They're gonna wash out

696
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: of the league fast because they don't have the production.

697
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh this guy can't play in the league. Well, I

698
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: can't believe that team drafted him in the first round.

699
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Maybe he can play, we don't have a guy that's

700
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Speaker 2: capable of throwing it to him on a consistent basis.

701
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Speaker 4: Some of these Yeah, it's it's everything about what kind

702
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: of environment you're dropped into. The guys coming out to

703
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: do it. Caleb Williams, Drake May you know, Jaylen Daniels.

704
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 4: None of these guys have any say and where they're

705
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: gonna get drafted, None of them. And unless you go

706
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Speaker 4: back way back twenty years, twenty plus years to when

707
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: Eli Manning was drafted and he said, I ain't playing

708
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: for you, or when John Elway, John Elway said to

709
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: Baltimore Cole said forget it, I'm not doing it, and

710
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: they ended up getting traded to another team, which, of

711
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: course both of them won multiple Super Bowls, you know.

712
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Speaker 4: And then, and to his credit, Eli Manning turned out

713
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: he was right, and so was John Elway. Eli Manning

714
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: would not didn't want to play for the San Diego Chargers.

715
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Or she told Tom that you guys are you guys?

716
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: Those are garbage franchise. Basically, he didn't say used these words.

717
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: He said, we don't play for you. You guys are perennial

718
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: losers who wants to come out here. The Chargers didn't

719
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: believe him, drafted him anyway, and he wouldn't show up.

720
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: They traded him for Philip Rivers. So Philip Rivers good.

721
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: They both go on to Hall of Fame careers. Philip

722
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: Rivers never wins anything and Eli wins two. May be

723
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: a borderline Hall of Famer.

724
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Speaker 2: Right, let's get back to the phones and we go

725
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: to Andy and Tonawanda next.

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Speaker 9: What's up Andy, Hi, guys, good afternoon. I have a

727
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 9: couple of questions and I have a couple of scenarios.

728
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 9: But first I think I agree with Steve. The middle

729
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 9: linebacker has to be a priority, and unfortunately we couldn't

730
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 9: address it in free agency Milano when he went down.

731
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Speaker 9: As much as I like Terrell Bernard and you know,

732
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 9: boy man is something special and he's definitely a tough

733
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 9: guy to replace. But so that would be my defensive player.

734
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Speaker 9: But I have a every time around this time with

735
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 9: the draft, the national championship quarterbacks seem to come out

736
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 9: of nowhere and get hyped up real good. And I

737
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Speaker 9: think of like mac Jones for instance. I mean, he

738
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 9: played for saban and Alabama and they won, and now

739
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 9: this year it's McCarty with Michigan and Arball. I see

740
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 9: these guys as two good quarterbacks, but they're not the

741
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 9: mainstay of like the quarterbacks you hear weekly, like in

742
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 9: college and stuff. So I just think McCarty. If the

743
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 9: Giants were to move up to get McCarty, I'd rather

744
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 9: see him get the kid from Washington or one of

745
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 9: the other guys other than McCarthy. I just not proven.

746
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 9: I think he played on a great team. They were

747
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 9: national champions and YadA YadA. But my other question to

748
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 9: you guys is what do you think of this scenario.

749
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 9: The new coach in Arizona is and tied to Kyler

750
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 9: Murray and they could also draft a quarterback. And I

751
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 9: was just wondering if you thought if that were to happen,

752
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 9: if a team like Minnesota, since they already had a

753
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 9: pretty big sailery guy and cousins, Yeah, would you think

754
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 9: they'd be better off grabbing a Kyler Murray than trying

755
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 9: to move up to a bow Knicks or Knicks or someone.

756
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 9: And just because Kyler Murray, I mean with I mean

757
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 9: with Justin Jefferson and the kid they drafted Addison late

758
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 9: last year.

759
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying.

760
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Speaker 4: Andy.

761
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: To my knowledge, Jonathan Gannon, the head coach in Arizona,

762
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: has pretty much stated that they are rolling with Murray

763
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: as their franchise quarterback. He just signed the big extension

764
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: last year. And let's see here his cap figure this

765
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: year thirty five million, and his cap number if they

766
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: released him, Yeah, that's not happening. One hundred and four

767
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: million dead cap. Let me see post June first, if

768
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: they move him seventy five nine. Yeah, that's not happening.

769
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Speaker 2: They're tied to Kyler Murray, whether you like it or not,

770
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: or whether they like it or not a.

771
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Speaker 4: Couple of years. Yeah, and yeah, that's that's not going

772
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: to change. And you're right, though, it is intriguing to

773
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: think about it. If teams with new head coaches new direction,

774
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: much like the Denver Broncos did with Russ Wilson. They

775
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 4: gave Russ Wilson one year and Pat and Sean Peyton

776
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 4: said he's not the guy, and they switched horses. They're

777
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: gonna go with somebody else. And they don't have anybody

778
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: coming down the pipeline, I mean, and they're drafting number

779
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Speaker 4: twelve right behind Minnesota.

780
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Minnesota at least has Ammo. They had the

781
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 2: eleventh and twenty third pick.

782
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Minnesota isn't a position to go up,

783
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: much like the Bills did. The Bills had the twelfth

784
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: pick and the twenty second pick.

785
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: Minnesota twenty two traded Cordy Glenn and twenty two to

786
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Speaker 2: get up to twelve. That was step one. Then they

787
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: used the twelve with some other draft capital to get

788
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: up to.

789
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: Seven, and they got up to seven. So Minnesota has

790
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: the eleventh and the twenty third, so they could package

791
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: those and move up maybe, you know, well, I don't

792
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: want to make any cont maybe even to New England

793
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: with Gerrod Mayo, and they've got all kinds of holes

794
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: and a whole roster to fill that may that may

795
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: do it for New England if they don't have one

796
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: of these guys they like.

797
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: That's a hard sell, right about national champion quarterbacks getting

798
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: hyped or at least national champion contenders. Remember Gino Torretto

799
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: won the Heisman Trophy for the Hurricanes in Miami. They

800
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: didn't win the national title that year if memory serves,

801
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: but he ended up getting drafted and he was out

802
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: of the league in two years.

803
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he didn't go into it a different

804
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: it's a different game. But yeah, I mean you can

805
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: go down like Tuah, mac Jones, Jalen Hurts, all these

806
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: guys that played at Alabama certainly, and then the guy

807
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: that played Stetson Bennett. You know, he got drafted, but

808
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: he was you know, he's down the list and he

809
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: was a you know, five or six year college guy.

810
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: It seven.

811
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Speaker 4: Quarter Quarterbacks have always been a different animal when it

812
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: comes to the NFL Draft.

813
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: But even the run like Blake Korham, the running back

814
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: for Michigan, is a guy that a lot of people like.

815
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: He's undersized, he's not a pile pusher, he doesn't kill

816
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: it on the stopwatch.

817
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: The guy ran.

818
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Behind one of the best offensive lines in the country.

819
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: I think he's overvalued. Well at the running back position.

820
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: He's gonna get drafted somewhere, probably higher than at least

821
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: I think he should.

822
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: College football is a different game than pro football because

823
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: of the guys who play it. That's no other difference.

824
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: Clyde Edwards Laire he plays on an.

825
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, even if they played by the exact same rules,

826
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: and it's very close to the rules. But even if

827
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: they played by the exact same rules, it's still a

828
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: very different game.

829
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Speaker 2: I mean, Clyde Edwards Laiir plays on a national title team.

830
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Speaker 2: He goes to the last picking round one. What's he done?

831
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Speaker 4: He can't get in front of he can't get on

832
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: the field, can't get on the field.

833
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: He can't get on the field in front of a

834
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: seventh round pick. And Isaiah Pachekov.

835
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Speaker 4: Let me just say this in front of nobody, because

836
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: pro football is about your physicality. I mean, these guys,

837
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: these guys are elite athletes. They're built different, they train different,

838
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: they think different. The guys that go to the NFL

839
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 4: and are successful are the ones that are supremely gifted,

840
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: and the ones that are great NFL players not only

841
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: are supremely gifted, but they're really really smart and they're

842
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: really really committed. They're different cats from top to bottom,

843
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: and at the college level, there may be is the

844
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 4: whole team's full of guys like that. At the college level,

845
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: you may have one guy on every team that's like that,

846
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: one guy or a handful of guys, and then maybe

847
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: some other a couple others who have some of all

848
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: of that, right, So it's it's a different game. And

849
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: that's why some of the like you know, like Andy's

850
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: from Tonawanda said, you know you they're over hyped because

851
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 4: you don't know exactly where they've been playing.

852
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Against this year for sure. Which Bill's defensive player are

853
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: you counting on the most this season? You can let

854
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: us know more of your phone calls when we return.

855
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: Mike and east Or will lead us off when we

856
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: get back here on One Bill's Live, presented by a

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Speaker 2: Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker on a Tuesday

859
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Speaker 2: and asking you about the player on defense for the

860
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: Bills you're counting on the most in twenty twenty four

861
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: had some roster turnover there. We're also discussing draft as well,

862
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: so don't be shot away by that. Eight oh three

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Speaker 2: zero five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty Back to the phones into Mike and

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Speaker 2: east Rora. Next.

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Speaker 10: What's up, Mike, Hi, guys, how are you.

867
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Speaker 8: Hey?

868
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Speaker 10: I think the Bills should double dip on a wide

869
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 10: receiver train, and I like Xavier le Gap and Zavier Worthy.

870
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Speaker 10: I'm not sure which one he's going to go in

871
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 10: the first round. I'm guessing it's gonna be Xavier Worthy

872
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 10: because of his speed. But I'm wondering whether or not

873
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 10: you guys think that one of those guys will be

874
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 10: available in the second round when the Bills are ready

875
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 10: to pack it. I'll hang out for the listen to

876
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 10: your call.

877
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 4: I say probably not. Yeah, I think they may both

878
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: be available at twenty eight, and neither one will be

879
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: available at sixty.

880
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: That's worthy speed is too difficult for anybody to ignore.

881
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be off the board in the top

882
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: forty picks. Yeah, some people will be concerned about his size,

883
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: but the speed is undeniable. And with the influence and look,

884
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Xavier Worthy is Tyreek Hill. He's not,

885
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: but the speed of Tyreek Hill in the way he

886
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: can influence games, coverage, defensive alignments, et cetera, will prompt

887
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: some team to say I want that same kind of

888
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: speed on our roster. Worthy can do that even though

889
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: he has not nearly the build. He's probably about forty

890
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: pounds lighter than Tyreek Hill at one sixty five, but

891
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: the speed is undeniable and he has some route savvy

892
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: to his game.

893
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a little bit like Jalen Smith Jaylen Waddell. No,

894
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: Jalen's the kid who just signed with Philly for the

895
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 4: long term dealt Davonte Smith, not Jalen. Davonte Smith small,

896
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 4: very fast, has some stuff that a lot of guys don't,

897
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: but doesn't have a lot of stuff that a lot

898
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: of guys do. You know what I'm saying. So he's

899
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 4: never gonna break any tackles.

900
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: Davante Smith runs in the four or fives, though he's not.

901
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: Right now, we're talking about size wise guys together, they're

902
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: almost identical.

903
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 2: One of the might be an injured too tall slender frame.

904
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: They're very slender frame, very fast, but they're not breaking tackles.

905
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: They're not ever going to be really big yards after

906
00:47:53,640 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: catch guys. Yeah, Worthy turned some heads when he ran

907
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: the four two one, and I get it. It's it's

908
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: cool and that speed is a difference making I get it,

909
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: but I'm telling you this, it's hard to run a

910
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 4: four to two to one when you're not feeling good.

911
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 4: You know, when you're bumped and bruised and battered from

912
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 4: getting jammed. It's hard to run a four to two

913
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: to one when he got two hands in your chest

914
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage. You know it's it's gonna be.

915
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 4: He's gonna get physical around in the NFL. I think

916
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: that's the fear anyway. Maybe he won't, maybe he'll be

917
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: too good for that. And there's guys there's a lot

918
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: of guys in the NFL that he'll outrun and run

919
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 4: away from. But there's a lot of guys in the

920
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 4: NFL that wouldn't be able to. He could run circles

921
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 4: around that they won't be able to. He won't be

922
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 4: able to get away from him because they just grab him.

923
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think he'll be there. There seems

924
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: to be a lot of mixed opinion on Laguette. I

925
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: suppose he could possibly be there. I mean, we had

926
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Dan Brugler on the show yesterday. He has him as

927
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: a third round prospect. I don't think he's gonna last

928
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: that long. There's a physical The physical traits are too

929
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: impressive to ignore. I know he he got knocked because

930
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: you know it's one year of production. Is he a

931
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: one year wonder that doesn't have a body of work

932
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: or is he just beginning to scratch the surface of

933
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: what he can be? And that's the debate. Or does.

934
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: He turn it? He turn it on so we'd get

935
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: drafted this year, you know, and then now he's gonna

936
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: turn it off when he makes signs of contract. You know,

937
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 4: is he one of those guys? He moody. But these

938
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 4: these two guys are exactly why the draft is intriguing.

939
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: He got one guy like Xavier Leguette. You know, he's okay,

940
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: he's got he's got some stuff, but he tests through

941
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: the roof. This is a guy is a physical specimen.

942
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: There there are corners in the NFL. He'll slap the

943
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: taste out of their mouth. I mean he's tough, tough

944
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: as nails, big physical dude, and can outrun a lot

945
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: of people. Then you got a guy like Xavier Worthy,

946
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: who's fast, He's a receiver, runs routes wells, got polished,

947
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: got some production. Was it a big time program? He's

948
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 4: got all that going for him. But man, oh man,

949
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 4: he looks like you know, he looks like he'd blow

950
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: a tryout for a ball boy. He's so small. So

951
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: that's why the draft is so intriguing. Yet guys that

952
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: at the college level never got it done. But man

953
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: have the skills and the physical abilities, and then the

954
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: other guys are getting it done. But you know, I

955
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: don't know. They got a lot of good guys around him,

956
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: and they got a lot of opportunity, so you got

957
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: to weigh all that stuff. But both those guys, the

958
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 4: Bills will have I think a shot at both those

959
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: guys once and they're gonna be at the same time,

960
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: but two of them won't be there at sixty the

961
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: second one.

962
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: Now, we got to take a break here, but when

963
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: we come back, our number two will begin with our

964
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: good friend Eric Edholm, nfl dot com lead draft writer.

965
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: He's been putting up a lot of content on NFL

966
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: dot Com of late, including nine teams that absolutely need

967
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: to nail this year's draft. One of those nine teams

968
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: was the Bills. We'll discuss that with him when we

969
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: return here. On One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

970
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills.

971
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: Radio one Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

972
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: There we are on a Tuesday one Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

973
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and begin the second hour of

974
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: the show with lead Draft for NFL dot Com Eric

975
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: at Holme, joining us as he has a couple of

976
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: times here in the run up to NFL Draft twenty

977
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: twenty four. Eric, thanks for giving us some time here

978
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 2: as we are less than a week away from the draft.

979
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: We're all probably like, hurry up and get here already,

980
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: but you've been churning out content on NFL dot Com.

981
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Wanted to touch on some of that with you, among other

982
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: subjects concerning the draft. First and foremost, you had a

983
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: piece last week nine NFL teams that need to ace

984
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: this draft, and you had the Bills on the list,

985
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: And we understand why a lot of roster turnover, tight

986
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: cap situations, so limited in terms of options in free agency,

987
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: and they don't have a ton of draft capital on

988
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: the first two days, only two of their ten picks

989
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: on Day one and Day two, So the margin for error,

990
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: I guess you could argue at least early in the

991
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 2: draft is pretty tight for them as well.

992
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 11: Absolutely, yeah, I mean if you're considering a trade up too.

993
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously, like you said, a lot of Day

994
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 11: three ammunition, But this is one of those drafts that,

995
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 11: as I've made calls around to people around the league,

996
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 11: that I don't know if there's a consensus, but the

997
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 11: feeling that I've gotten is that the Day three picks

998
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 11: aren't quite as valuable as they might normally be this

999
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 11: year too. So there's that element as well that you know,

1000
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 11: maybe you're not getting a commensurate value for them that

1001
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 11: you normally would for those types of selections, so that

1002
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 11: may limit your options as well. That may limit it

1003
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 11: once if you keep the picks. Once you get to

1004
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 11: those selections, you know, the positions of need may already

1005
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 11: be sapped by other teams. So it really puts them

1006
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 11: in a tough spot. But this front office has done

1007
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 11: a great job I think of identifying, you know, talents

1008
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 11: that fit the scheme, players who typically can come in

1009
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 11: and contribute early on. You know, there are always exceptions,

1010
00:53:55,320 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 11: of course, but I think there if wide receiver.

1011
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: Is the choice, there could be an option there.

1012
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 11: If it's an offensive lineman, I could see that being

1013
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 11: a possibility, pass rusher, what have you. But I do

1014
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 11: feel good about the positions of need and the talent

1015
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 11: matching up with where they are selecting in Round one.

1016
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: At the very least is mock draft season, and a

1017
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: lot of people have marked a lot of wide receivers up.

1018
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 4: In fact, a lot of people think this year is

1019
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 4: going to set a record for the number of wide

1020
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: receivers taken in the first round. And you as well,

1021
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: and your ranking of just players overall, forget about positions.

1022
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: How good these players are? Seven of the top thirty

1023
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 4: one of your top thirty one or wide receivers goes

1024
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 4: all the way down to lad McConkie being up in

1025
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: the top of that in the bottom of that round.

1026
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: Is this you know? Is this? I told Brownie, we've

1027
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: got this over under bed. I thought it was twenty.

1028
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: It's probably more like sixteen guys of wide receiver, quarterback,

1029
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: and offensive tackle. And indeed, this may be a draft

1030
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: that sets the NFL record, which is twenty of offensive

1031
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: players taken in the first round. It's an arms race,

1032
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: at least in the AFC, and this draft class fits

1033
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: right into that.

1034
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, I think you're right.

1035
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 11: We may set some records for offensive players consecutively to

1036
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 11: start the draft too. You know, we haven't had I

1037
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 11: don't believe we've had a top ten with all offensive players.

1038
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 11: There's a scenario where that could happen. So the three

1039
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 11: positions you mentioned quarterback, wide, receiver, and offensive I'll say

1040
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 11: offensive line but really tackle feel like three unusually deep

1041
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 11: and top heavy positions. So that certainly is going to

1042
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 11: affect the bottom half of round one and even into

1043
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 11: round two. I think as far as who's going to

1044
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 11: be there, there will be some good defensive players picked

1045
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 11: after the.

1046
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 3: Wanting the selection who do very well.

1047
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 11: I do think the receiver depth does drop off at

1048
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 11: a certain point, but you know, there's a top tier

1049
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 11: in round one. There's even a second tier I think

1050
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 11: in Round one and maybe even in the day two

1051
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 11: a little bit. But Day three, I believe is where

1052
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 11: that depth does tape off quite precipitously. So you know,

1053
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 11: for all to talk about the receivers, I think you

1054
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 11: still need to use a top hundred pick on one

1055
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 11: just to be sure that you're maximizing that that depth

1056
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 11: in this class.

1057
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: I know in your latest Machyah the Bills taking ad

1058
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: Mitchell at twenty eight, and that's not an unpopular pick,

1059
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: but if you had to pick maybe a second position

1060
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: where you felt the Bills needed to invest after receiver,

1061
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: what would that be? You know, and I'm not saying

1062
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: you got to necessarily match it up with their draft capital,

1063
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: but if there was a second pick that you wanted

1064
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 2: them to invest in, where would you go? Position wise?

1065
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, good question.

1066
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 11: I would say probably either somewhere on the defensive front

1067
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 11: or maybe corner. You know, I could see those being

1068
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 11: positions that they look at. I mentioned offensive line too.

1069
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 11: I would say probably probably more of a defensive end type. Again,

1070
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 11: I could see a multi positional type player up there

1071
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 11: as well. You know, if you think that you're gonna

1072
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 11: have to find a replacement for von Miller at some point,

1073
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 11: you know, Greg Russou is locked in, but and and

1074
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 11: Epineza has his new contract. But you know, again, both

1075
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 11: those guys I think are only signed through the twenty

1076
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 11: five season, if I'm not, If I'm not mistaken, correct

1077
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 11: me if I'm wrong. You know, you always want to

1078
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 11: have that third guy, if you will, and in this

1079
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 11: case for next year, or fourth guy, so that that

1080
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 11: position feels like both a short and a long term need.

1081
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 11: You know, safety obviously has been a spot where there's

1082
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 11: been quite a bit of turnover. I think that's that's

1083
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 11: a possible target. I didn't think about that one. But

1084
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 11: interior offensive line would make some sense as well. Corner

1085
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 11: if you wanted to have another player to to kind

1086
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 11: of buttress that position, and you know, maybe another even

1087
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 11: another interior defensive lineman would make some sense. But yeah,

1088
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 11: I would say if I had to put a second

1089
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 11: position behind wide receiver, I would say someone up front

1090
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 11: on the defensive side would make makes some sense to me.

1091
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: This this draft, it's interesting draft classes we've been talking about.

1092
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: It's an offensive heavy particularly at the top of it.

1093
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: You've got quarterbacks, offensive tackles, and wide receivers. Three real

1094
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: actually big money positions. I mean, they're important positions. On offense,

1095
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: they're what they you know, we call money spots. And

1096
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: on defense there's corner there. The money spots are corner

1097
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: and defensive end, you know, pass rusher.

1098
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 8: Yea.

1099
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: What is the if if you're going past those money

1100
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: positions on offense quarterback, tackle, wide receiver, what is the

1101
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: next most deep and money position that is out there

1102
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: in this draft class?

1103
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1104
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: Really good question.

1105
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 11: I would say it's probably between those two spots. Off

1106
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 11: the top of my head, I think corner and pass rusher.

1107
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: Feel like the.

1108
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 11: Next two spot you could maybe make a case for

1109
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 11: your interior offensive line. I don't know that i'd quite

1110
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 11: go there because I don't think it's running back. I

1111
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 11: don't think it's tight end. I don't think it's safety

1112
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 11: or linebacker. So I would think it's probably either one

1113
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 11: of those two spots. And I think the detackle classes

1114
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 11: maybe a little bit under appreciator, underrated in some regards,

1115
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 11: but I would probably lean towards pass rusher and corner.

1116
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: You know, with cornerback, I mean, look, Cooper de Gene.

1117
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 11: Worked out well the other day, kool Aid McKinstry has

1118
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 11: fought through this injury and ran a pretty good forty time.

1119
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: It is pro day. Who's to say there aren't five.

1120
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 11: Corners taken in round one, you know, And even so,

1121
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 11: I think there is still enough day to talent to

1122
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 11: make that a pretty talent rich position. Not amazing, but

1123
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 11: enough good options there. Nickels outside guys all different shapes

1124
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 11: and sizes. I really like Max Melton. I think Mike

1125
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 11: Sayn is still from Michigan, is going to be a

1126
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 11: good nickel for somebody pass Rusher, I think you maybe

1127
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 11: not have quite I don't know. I think it's it's

1128
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 11: almost up there too. I really like Adza Isaac from

1129
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 11: Penn State just down the road from you guys. And

1130
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 11: Austin Booker's a really inch player from Kansas who could

1131
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 11: outplay as draft status. Jonah ellis you know Marshawn Neeland

1132
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 11: from Western Michigan. So I guess at this point, I

1133
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 11: would say d N might be a hair above corner.

1134
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: But they're both pretty competitive.

1135
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: So even though we all suffer here from Bill's myopia,

1136
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: there is sometimes a secondary eye cast towards the rest

1137
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: of the division, all of whom are picking ahead of

1138
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: the Bills. Obviously since the Bills won the division again,

1139
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: what do you expect the rest of the division to

1140
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: do here on night one? Obviously New England's you know,

1141
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: under the microscope at pick three, a lot of people

1142
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: like Brock Bowers for the Jets at ten, and it

1143
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: seems like Miami is going to try to get some

1144
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: line help, either on offense or defense.

1145
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, Like we'll go in reverse order.

1146
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 11: I think the Dolphins are our line of scrimmage team,

1147
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 11: whether it's a d lineman or an offensive lineman. Both

1148
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 11: makes sense to me. They suffered losses at both positions.

1149
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 11: You know, Connor Williams, Chris Christian Wilkins. So beefing up

1150
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 11: those lines of scrimmage and again without a ton of picks,

1151
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 11: that's going to, I think be their focus.

1152
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Jets.

1153
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 11: Spowers has been a team or a name connected to

1154
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 11: them quite a bit.

1155
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: The other two positions.

1156
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 11: I can see them looking at offensive line wide receiver.

1157
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 11: What if Roma Doonsay is still there? I mean, would

1158
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 11: they I know they got Mike Williams, I know they

1159
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 11: have Garrett Wilson, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's

1160
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 11: another type of pass catcher who goes there.

1161
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: But New England is clearly the one in the division.

1162
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: The mystery team, if you will.

1163
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 11: You have a new head coach, you have a new GM,

1164
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 11: Elliot Woolf, first time in the captain's chair. You know,

1165
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 11: Alonzo Highsmith coming in to advise. Hard to know what

1166
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 11: direction they'll go In the big picture, I think everybody

1167
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 11: thinks they're going to get a quarterback.

1168
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: But do they stay at three and get one? Do

1169
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 3: they trade down? Do they stay at three and take

1170
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: a non.

1171
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 11: QB and then try to, you know, find their quarterback

1172
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 11: another route. I you know, I think it's most likely

1173
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 11: that they stay there and get their guy, but I

1174
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 11: think the trade down options are going to be really

1175
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 11: really interesting. It could be a possible shake up early

1176
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 11: in the draft. So I just this first ten picks,

1177
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 11: you know, is really starting with.

1178
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 3: About New England and ending with about the Jets, is

1179
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: going to be action packed.

1180
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 11: I think there'll be some curves and so twists and

1181
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 11: turns along the way, and it should be a fun

1182
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 11: start to the draft up there.

1183
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of action packed and twists and turns and

1184
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 4: trading up and trading down, what do you think is

1185
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 4: going to be the surprise move when you talk about

1186
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 4: this draft?

1187
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 11: It might be you know, if you look at a

1188
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 11: team that might be desperate for a quarterback, like Denver

1189
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 11: for instance, I know they don't have the draft capital

1190
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 11: of a Minnesota or even of the Raiders who are

1191
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 11: picking one spot behind them for that matter. You know

1192
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 11: what if Sean Payton just says I have to get

1193
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 11: into that top four, I've got to do whatever it takes.

1194
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 11: I've got to outbid these other teams and throw all

1195
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 11: the next year's picks and everything else because they don't

1196
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 11: have a ton of assets right now. That would be

1197
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 11: a surprise for me because I don't think they can

1198
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 11: afford to do it. But they also can't afford to

1199
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 11: go in the next year without a quarterback. So it's

1200
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 11: the ultimate conundrum I think for them in particular. You know,

1201
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 11: Minnesota is obviously well armed. We saw Arizona be very

1202
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 11: active on draft Day. They have two first round picks out.

1203
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 11: I think you'll see a lot of movement. They moved

1204
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 11: down last year then back up, so you know, those

1205
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 11: are some of the teams that I think are and

1206
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 11: the Giants for that matter. I mean, boy, you know

1207
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 11: everyone's connecting to a quarterback now.

1208
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: You know they have Daniel Jones in place, what do

1209
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: they do there at six?

1210
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 11: They're kind of the in the just outside the catbird seats.

1211
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 11: So I think whatever New New York does at six,

1212
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 11: and whether it's move up or stay put, I think

1213
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 11: a lot of eyes will be glaring in on their selection.

1214
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: Last one for you, Eric, what is the latest scuttle?

1215
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 2: But you're kind of hearing on that second quarterback tier,

1216
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: like who's really in on Pennix? Who really likes Nicks?

1217
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: And do either of them have a chance to come

1218
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: off the board in round one and is someone destined

1219
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: for round two because of you know, ancillary concerns.

1220
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 11: Right, I mean what Will Levis was a surprise. I

1221
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 11: think a lot of people had him as a first

1222
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 11: round pick last year he ended up going early in

1223
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 11: the second to the Titans. Wouldn't shock me whatsoever if

1224
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 11: that was bo Nix's fate, right, And that would be

1225
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 11: great for a team like the Broncos because if they

1226
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 11: knew that was gonna happen, they could they could plan

1227
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 11: accordingly and still kind of get him. So I think

1228
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 11: Pennix might end up being the fourth court or the

1229
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 11: fifth quarterback, excuse me, off the board, and it could

1230
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 11: come as early as number thirteen to the Raiders.

1231
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't shock me.

1232
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 11: If they can't get Jayden Daals, who Antonio Brown or

1233
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 11: Antonio Pierce had at Arizona State when he was defensive

1234
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 11: coordinator their assistant head coach, then maybe Pennix is there

1235
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 11: their play and B and they may not feel that

1236
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 11: they can afford to take him any lower, like trading

1237
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 11: back may not be an option. So you know, I'd

1238
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 11: probably set the over under a quarterbacks at four and

1239
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 11: a half, and I think right now.

1240
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: It's looking like it may go over that.

1241
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Eric, thanks for the time as always. Uh,

1242
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: we'll see if we can catch up with you after

1243
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: the draft, sometime after this thing's been put to bed.

1244
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: Enjoy the three days sojourn.

1245
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you very much.

1246
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 11: I'll be enjoying Detroit a lot, and I'll see you

1247
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 11: guys on the flip side.

1248
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: All right, good, that's Eric. Get home from NFL dot

1249
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: Com there, lead draft writer. Yeah, I turn it out

1250
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: content over there.

1251
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 4: This is one draft where a lot of stuff is

1252
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 4: coinciding that we don't see too much. We see some

1253
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 4: moves in every draft, you know, class or some up,

1254
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 4: trade up, some trade downs. But this draft order and

1255
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: the fact that it's full of quarterbacks, and the fact

1256
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: that it's full of game breaking wide receivers at the

1257
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 4: top and listen under a handfult's say the top three guys. Man,

1258
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: oh man, it's gonna be like a.

1259
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: Those are positions that teams move for.

1260
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a blackjack deck in Vegas. They're gonna

1261
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 4: be shuffling all the time. I don't think the order

1262
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: has been set at all at the top. I don't

1263
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 4: think that. I don't think think the Bears would move,

1264
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 4: but they might.

1265
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: They might move at nine.

1266
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: They might flip. Yeah, they might flip with Washington or

1267
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 4: New England for the right price, because they may like

1268
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 4: a couple of guys.

1269
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: No, they're taking Caleb will I think they'd get crushed

1270
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: if they do. They're kind of married to him at

1271
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: this point. But they could see them moving out at nine.

1272
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: But the Chicago Bears wouldn't be the Chicago Bears unless

1273
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 4: they did something like that.

1274
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: So make Ryan Poles has done a nice job of

1275
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: putting that roster together, both with trades, free agency, the

1276
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: draft the last couple of years. I think he's got

1277
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: them finally on the right track. Let's not forget he's

1278
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: a disciple of bread Beach out in Kansas City. Yeah,

1279
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: he knows how to roster, build, he knows how to draft.

1280
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: Just sitting at the elbow of bread Veach for years,

1281
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: he's done a nice job.

1282
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: How likely is it, then, did they make the pick

1283
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 4: at nine?

1284
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: I think if they do move, that's where they move.

1285
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 4: Quinn flip, Is it that likely?

1286
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: I think it depends on how many calls they're getting,

1287
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: And I think it's gonna be largely largely dependent on

1288
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: on how those receivers go. After the quarterbacks go.

1289
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: They're getting thirty one calls because.

1290
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: If I'm yeah, but I mean, if if you have yeah,

1291
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: if two of the top three receivers are off the

1292
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: board and there's one still on the board at nine,

1293
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,959
Speaker 2: their phone's going to be ringing off the hook because

1294
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna want to jump in front of the Jets

1295
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: to get them at nine.

1296
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: At nine, you've got a ton more teams that can

1297
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Speaker 4: afford it. A ton, Yeah, that I think that's And

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 4: if by some strange circumstance, the fourth quarterbacks still there

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 4: at nine, forget.

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: It, they're gonna get a king's ransom.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any way Arizona makes the picket

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 4: for Yeah. Well, they need they need they need bodies, right,

1303
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: so you can just big an asset not to cash

1304
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 4: in for more people.

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 2: They could trade from four to nine, right, four to eight.

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that in Atlanta fields they

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: have to move up. I don't think Chicago fields they

1308
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: have to move up. So those are probably out of

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01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: the equation.

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: But you know, the Giants might Minnesota at eleven could

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 4: move up to four, the Giants might move up. Giants

1312
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 4: might move up, and Arizona might trade back twice, then

1313
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: go back to six, and then move back even further

1314
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 4: because one of those receivers will be there at six

1315
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 4: if that all happens, because the Giants ain't going to

1316
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 4: go up and take a receiver. They're gonna They're gonna

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01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 4: take a QB at four. So I think it's really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think it may be. It may set up. We

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Speaker 4: may set records for the number offensive players taken or

1320
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 4: the number of receivers taken in the first round. I

1321
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 4: don't think there's any question we've got a chance of

1322
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 4: seeing the most transactions in the first round of any

1323
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 4: draft we've ever seen. Trade ups, trade downs, trade outs.

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01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: Could be. Could be good conversation there with Eric at Holme.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the phones though. At eight

1326
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Speaker 2: oh three, five point fifty one, eight eight eight five

1327
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty then I'm gonna get on board.

1328
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: Is we are asking you today, which Bill's defensive player

1329
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: are you counting on the most here in the twenty

1330
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: twenty four season. Got some open lines for you, So

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: hop on board if you want to chime in. We

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: go to John in Clarence next, though, what do you

1333
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: got for us? John?

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Speaker 13: Good conversation ever since?

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 6: I want uh.

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01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 7: John, Well, I told you earlier I wanted uh Russo

1337
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 7: to step up.

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01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay, he was a good he's a good player, Yeah, but.

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Speaker 7: I wanted him to step step it up because he's

1340
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 7: gonna get a lot more playing time this year.

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I yes, absolutely, I mean he was

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: a starter last year. I mean, I don't know how

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: much more time he'll get back.

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,480
Speaker 12: Yet, but he he's.

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01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 7: A good player, but he he's gonna he's gonna get

1346
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 7: a lot more playing time. With all the guys that

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 7: have left, he's gonna be playing every down.

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01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if I don't know if that's

1349
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 4: that's not on that's not on Rousseau. That's more on

1350
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 4: Sean mcdermotin.

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01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: And hadn't really been the way that they operate.

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they rotate those guys through.

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01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: And the only guy that was the exception to that

1354
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 2: was at Oliver last year. He was playing sixty five

1355
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: to seventy percent of the snaps down the stretch last year,

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01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: and that's because they lost Daikwon Jones and he was

1357
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: out and Jordan Phillip Phillips was hurt. Yeah, were shorthanded.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree with you. I'd love to see

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01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 4: Rousseau step up and start gett being you know, getting

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: a ton of sacks. Uh, maybe this will be the

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Speaker 4: year he does that. We've talked about, you know, a

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Speaker 4: guy with like Rousseau who this will be his third year,

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Speaker 4: fourth year. And that's that's the reason I mentioned that

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 4: is because he was one of those He was on

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 4: one of those COVID babies where he came into the

1366
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 4: league in the.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one draft, so missed a lot of time in college.

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Speaker 2: He was only a one year start.

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Speaker 4: He was a twenty one draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he sat out the twenty twenty season. If you remember,

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Speaker 2: his mom's a nurse, right, he's really in tune with

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01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: kind of the COVID pandemic through his mom, and he said,

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01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to sit out and he

1374
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 2: did not play in twenty twenty and started in twenty nineteen.

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: One year's starter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been a good, solid player.

1377
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Speaker 2: Not a lot of snaps in college, so you can

1378
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: understand the slow development. Yeah, and even then he's been

1379
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: a solid player. Hasn't been a spectacular player. To John's point,

1380
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: He's right about that.

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: And I would say this should be a year with

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 4: higher expectations for him, much higher. Maybe it all comes

1383
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 4: because he should. He does strike me even last year.

1384
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 4: He struck me as an ascending player. Although most of

1385
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 4: the big plays last year on the defense happened in

1386
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: the back end because of more aggressive blitzing and all

1387
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 4: that stuff. We got more sacks this last year than

1388
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 4: we had in the past, but that was a lot

1389
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: of it was because I believe Sean McDermott called on

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01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 4: the plays. He's an aggressive play caller. It'll be interesting

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 4: to see if Bobby Babbage continues along that.

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Speaker 2: I still don't have an answer on that.

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 4: Yet, and if I like the Rousseau answer, I think

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 4: it makes a lot of sense. It seems logical. He

1395
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 4: does seem to be playing a player on the ascent

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 4: every year. Although it hasn't been a steep assent.

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Speaker 2: Well he's been Boston games, high ankle sprains, that kind

1398
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: of stuff.

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Speaker 4: I still think he's a player that has something more

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 4: to give, and I would agree with that. Listen, if

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 4: you've got a defensive end who comes in and spreads

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01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: his wings. That means sacks and big plays. I'm all

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01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 4: for it.

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to make the change from steady starter

1405
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: to impact performer and not just one week like he's

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: had games where he's had, you know, a sack and

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: interception and has made an impact on the outcome of

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: the game. Now that it's it's much like the Ed

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01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: Oliver debate that people had. You know, it took him

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 2: until year four to really look like a weekly impact

1411
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 2: difference maker. That offense has had to gain plan for.

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01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: That's the step that Rousseau has to make.

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Speaker 4: You could, man, you could write a book on Ed

1414
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: Oliver and what happened to him and how the team

1415
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 4: handled him and how they knew what they were getting

1416
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: when they drafted him and how it turned out to

1417
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 4: be right, and why he's one of the young draftees

1418
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 4: they paid instead of let hit the road. Forget about

1419
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: the fact he was number ten pick. His personality was

1420
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: the difference for him to sign that because when they

1421
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: there's some of these guys they're hesitant to sign to

1422
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 4: an extension because they think that's it for him. They're

1423
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 4: going to take it out of gear.

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01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 7: Ed.

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 4: They were right in in knowing it motivated him and

1426
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 4: he had his best year ever after signing the extension.

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: That's where Russeau's cut from the same clock.

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01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 4: That's the DNA. They look that. You say DNA and

1429
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: it sounds funny, it sounds great. That's it. That's what

1430
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 4: they're looking for, guys that are motivated by something other

1431
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 4: than the contract or if they're motivated, motivated by the contract,

1432
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 4: highly motivated to earn it, that kind of thing. It's

1433
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 4: it worked with Ed, no question about it. It'll be

1434
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: interesting to see if Rousseau is cut from that same cloth.

1435
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta take a break here, but more of your

1436
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: phone calls when we return. Which Bill's defensive player are

1437
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: you counting on the most? For the twenty twenty four

1438
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: campaign had a lot of player turnover. Who's your guy?

1439
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: You let us know? Next here on One Bill's Live,

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: presented by a lot of health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1441
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live, discussing which

1442
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 2: Bill's defensive player you're counting on the most? In twenty

1443
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: twenty four at a lot of roster turnover here in

1444
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: the offseason. You give us a guy you're counting on

1445
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: here for the upcoming season and we go to Rob

1446
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 2: in Connecticut.

1447
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 13: What's up Rob, gentlemen, how you doing today? Chris and Steve,

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01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 13: It's always a pleasure listen As a true fan. Of course,

1449
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 13: I want that complete defense, but of course to make

1450
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 13: up that defense, one of the players I really am

1451
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 13: looking forward to this year to play the whole season

1452
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 13: is Russell Douglas and then of course T Bird. I

1453
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 13: called through El Bernard t Bird, and I love Milano

1454
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 13: and also Russo those are my favorite players on the

1455
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 13: team right now. As far as defense wise, I really

1456
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 13: hope that there's a huge impact. But I'm really anxious

1457
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 13: to see what Russell Douglas does this year with the

1458
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 13: full season ahead of us. Keep doing what you guys

1459
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 13: are doing. Love you, thank you.

1460
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned Rassell Douglas because not

1461
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: only from a ball production standpoint, I mean, he was

1462
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 2: outstanding when he got here. He's always been a ballhawk

1463
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: in his entire career. I don't think that's any secret.

1464
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to take risks and often he guesses right.

1465
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 2: But more importantly than that, that's your veteran in the secondary,

1466
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 2: that's your veteran guy. I mean outside of Taron Johnson.

1467
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: That's the only guy who's got more experience in the.

1468
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 4: League right Certainly, Terren's been here in Buffalo longer. I mean,

1469
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 4: Rasoul's only been here for eight games. But he came

1470
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 4: in and made an impact right away. And I think

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 4: you're right, it's a little bit easy. It's easy to

1472
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: forget Rasseul Douglas. It's easy to forget Mike Edwards, who's

1473
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: gonna be a big difference maker. He's gonna be in

1474
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 4: that defense now he's These guys aren't returning, but they are.

1475
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 4: They are new guys who have some chops in the NFL.

1476
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 4: And Rasoul came in and made a difference down the

1477
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 4: stretch at a point where the Bills got to win

1478
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 4: to get in, and they got six straight. Rasseul was

1479
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 4: a big part of that.

1480
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: They had four takeaways in his first three games.

1481
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 4: He was huge. So I would I would agree with that.

1482
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 4: The secondary is gonna be largely new, depending on whose

1483
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 4: lines up at outside corner. But you're gonna have Taron

1484
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:52,520
Speaker 4: Johnson coming back as a week one starting.

1485
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: If Benford wins an outside cornerspot, he would be the

1486
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 2: only other holdover from last year's back five. Yeah, I

1487
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: mean that's that's it. That is it different? Some turnover

1488
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: for sure. Let's go to Gary in Lancaster next. What's

1489
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: up Gary?

1490
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 6: Yeah? You guys doing there? Start off with a question.

1491
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 6: You can think about this later. What's your favorite soup?

1492
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 6: We're having a soup pest of our church and everyone's

1493
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 6: making it. It's pretty cool. So just come up with

1494
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 6: that second ball. You can think of what you want.

1495
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 6: The last color was spot on. I have Matt Milano.

1496
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 6: I think if he hinges on the up way when

1497
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 6: he's healthy, he could keep us this offense. Douglas another one,

1498
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 6: very good call about that. Those are the guys. I

1499
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 6: think Milano and Douglas are the guys that will flip

1500
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 6: this defense back to another top ten ten five out

1501
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 6: of hell they can go. But those are some key

1502
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 6: guys in there. So then let me know your soups,

1503
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 6: and then let me know your linebackers and stuff.

1504
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 4: By Yeah, thanks Gary.

1505
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Milano we talked about a little earlier, and it's

1506
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: a question mark just because we don't know. We don't

1507
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: have the breath of knowledge as to the progress of

1508
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 2: his rehabilitation. But we can tell you that Brandon Bean

1509
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: told us on our show at the combine that Matt

1510
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: Malono's prognosis is training camp, and even then he won't

1511
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: be doing stuff on the field with the team every

1512
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: single day. He'll be on the side. So I'm not

1513
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 2: anticipating to see a lot from him on the field

1514
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: in May, during OTAs or even the June mini camp,

1515
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: unless something miraculous happened and he's dramatically ahead of schedule.

1516
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: It sounds like training camp is the starting point for

1517
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: him to do anything close to the semblance of real football.

1518
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in the building, he's around, walking around doing stuff,

1519
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 4: but he's still in rehab mode. And hopefully he comes

1520
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: back because we've seen it. We all know he's an

1521
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 4: absolutely great player.

1522
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 2: Now, if Chile counted as soup, and I don't think

1523
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: it does, that would be my number one. But I

1524
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: don't think that falls in the category of soup because

1525
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: in that case, it would be an unfair competition. It

1526
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: would be chili every.

1527
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 4: Time for everybody you're saying, I would think, so, if

1528
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 4: you have a sane mind, what is it if it's

1529
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: not soup?

1530
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: So I would say, I've got a couple of soups

1531
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: that I really like, but I would say my number

1532
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: one is roasted red pepper soup.

1533
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 4: It is awesome.

1534
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: You can get it in you know those you know

1535
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: those square plastic not plastic, but like malleable containers that

1536
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: you can buy soup in. Now. They're like these little

1537
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: oh yeah, rectangular size and they got the little screw

1538
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: top right and after you open it you can put

1539
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: the rest in the fridge and leave it there.

1540
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 4: Right.

1541
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 2: Those are dynamite, you know, for a quick heated up

1542
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: meal with like a grilled Swiss with bacon sandwich.

1543
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 4: I am a big fan of tomato basil.

1544
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be my number two. I like that,

1545
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: And I like, if you like tomato basil, you would

1546
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: like roasted red peppers.

1547
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 4: I'm sure, really, I like roasted red peppers.

1548
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh you do.

1549
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 4: I also have tortilla soup.

1550
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 2: Chicken tortilla is good too. But I think you just

1551
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: named my top three.

1552
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: My favorite would be chilly, no question, all the time,

1553
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 4: every time.

1554
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people would argue whether that's truly a soup.

1555
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what the category,

1556
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 4: but that that would that's that's it right there.

1557
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I hope that helps you. Uh,

1558
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: let's go to Bill in Old Forge. What do you

1559
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: got for his bill?

1560
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, Well, based on the brink truck of money

1561
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 12: we're paying him, Von Miller, I'm I'm hoping to god

1562
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 12: he could have like at least one Mario Williams type

1563
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 12: season here. I'm not counting on it, but I'm hoping

1564
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 12: he does, just for the reason that if they've got

1565
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 12: to double him, that's why we brought him here. If

1566
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 12: they got a double team him, that that's gonna free

1567
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 12: up everybody else. They're all gonna have decent seasons if

1568
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 12: they If he commands their respect to the offensive line

1569
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 12: and taking care of him with double teams like we

1570
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 12: were expecting, that's gonna free up everybody else.

1571
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 4: It'll be everybody better, I know.

1572
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1573
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,480
Speaker 12: Oh and then the other one is kyri Elam. He flashes.

1574
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 12: I love that pick. When they brought him in, I

1575
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 12: wish I knew like why he flashes. But he's not

1576
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 12: on the field more. It seems like everybody seems to

1577
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 12: be wondering what's going on with him. I just hope

1578
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 12: he takes a step because I think he could be

1579
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 12: a really good corner possible if it's somehow he gets

1580
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 12: his footing under him.

1581
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll touch on the kye Elim thing. I'll let

1582
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: Steve handle Von, because Steve's been bullish on Von most

1583
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: of the offseason as far as his twenty twenty four

1584
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: prospects are concerned, but as far as Kaye goes. You know,

1585
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: I even asked Brandon being again when we had him

1586
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 2: on the show last at the Combine about whether this

1587
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: is a fresh start in twenty twenty four for kye

1588
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: Elam and he he didn't. I don't know if he

1589
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 2: was effusive in his feelings on that, but he seemed

1590
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: pretty confident that this year could be an opportunity for

1591
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 2: him to kind of restart his professional career for a

1592
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: number of reasons, one of which is the fact that

1593
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: we've seen some turnover in terms of the secondary coaches.

1594
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: You got new coaches back there. He's got a new

1595
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: corners coach in Jamiladie. Bobby Babbage is the defensive coordinator now.

1596
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: So I think with some of the turnover with the

1597
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: coaching staff, I really think it can be a new

1598
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: lease on his professional career because he's got new people

1599
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: evaluating him. This guy's got two interceptions in the playoffs

1600
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: in two years with the Bills. I mean, that's more

1601
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 2: than a lot of players that have been here a

1602
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: lot longer than that. And it's in limited playing time,

1603
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: very limited, so playing more you might get more of that.

1604
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think Kyrie Eaedam

1605
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 4: is going to get a second chance to restart his career.

1606
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: We'll see if that happens. And on the other side, Vaughan.

1607
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 4: I am high on Vaughan. I saw some stuff last

1608
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 4: year where he's moving better he was. He didn't get

1609
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 4: on the stat sheet at all last year, but I

1610
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 4: saw some things in his play late in the year

1611
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 4: and after he came back and started playing snap after

1612
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: snap after snap. That gave me reason to think he's

1613
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 4: got a lot of football left in him. And let's

1614
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 4: face it, he wants to finish his career in a

1615
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 4: fashion that he can be proud of as well. I

1616
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 4: think I don't know that he'll play after this year.

1617
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 4: I think because of the structure of his contract. I

1618
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 4: think he and the Bills were kind of pointing towards

1619
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 4: this year as being the finale here in Buffalo. So

1620
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 4: if it is, in fact, I think he wants to

1621
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 4: go out in a big way, and I think he's

1622
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 4: got the juice to do it. I think one of

1623
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 4: the things too about him is, yeah, they're not getting

1624
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 4: rid of him. They think he's got some football left

1625
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 4: in him. The guy's a mentor. He always has been.

1626
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 4: He has been a guy that has made the guys

1627
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 4: around him better. He's been teaching the young guys. Greg

1628
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 4: Russeau has talked to him a lot all these aj

1629
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 4: Epanessa has been talking to him a lot. He's a

1630
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: great mentor. Runs that past Rush summit like that as

1631
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 4: much as anything, has helped the guys he plays with

1632
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 4: to get better. But I'll just I'm just I'm still

1633
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 4: on the Von train. Like I got to tell you,

1634
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 4: I think the guy's got some football left in him,

1635
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 4: and I think the Bills are going to benefit from it.

1636
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 2: To Jim in cheek to Wogan X, what's up, Jim?

1637
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 5: Hello, Chris and Steve good after doom you just touched

1638
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 5: on subject. Bill brought it up Von Miller.

1639
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we've.

1640
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 5: Invested a lot in him, and I'm hoping I can

1641
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 5: see him, Steve said, out this year and be the

1642
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 5: football player that he was.

1643
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1644
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 5: The other side that is the Milano thing. Wait for

1645
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 5: this guy to get healthy. I think he's probably one

1646
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 5: of the best line direcrisional league.

1647
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean he was All Pro the last

1648
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: time he put a full season together.

1649
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 5: Exactly. So I mean, to me, those are two players

1650
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 5: that I'd to see his saddle, you know, back to

1651
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 5: where they used to be. Leave it at that. I'll

1652
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 5: listen to you guys, Thank you. You know.

1653
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 2: It's it's not lost on me, Steve that the Bills

1654
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: just didn't have injured starters last year. I mean, you

1655
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: could make the argument that three of their top five

1656
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: best defensive players were either out injured or not right.

1657
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: Matt Mulano, day Kwon Jones, Tredavious White, Von Miller. Von

1658
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: Miller was playing, but it was clear to everybody he

1659
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 2: wasn't the same guy.

1660
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 4: Took him a while to get on.

1661
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: That's four of their top five defensive players.

1662
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's on the roster, right, It's not just four guys,

1663
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They were still a top

1664
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 4: ten defense, and they were still ranked pretty really high overall.

1665
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 4: And I thought last year they were a more playmaking

1666
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 4: defense than they were the year before, when they were

1667
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 4: ranked much higher. Without those playmates out those playmakers. So

1668
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: I'm I'm kind of with you there. I think there's

1669
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 4: a lot on that side of the football that needed

1670
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: can be tapped. But let's face it, there's also a

1671
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 4: lot that's gonna be brand new. Yah, both safeties, both safeties,

1672
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 4: half the defensive line on the rotation is going to

1673
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: be new. Maybe both corners from were waiting on from

1674
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 4: week one. Uh, the timeline on Milano and who's gonna

1675
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 4: who's gonna step in if he can't, there's a lot

1676
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 4: of question marks. But they were a much better playmaking

1677
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: defense they were last year, even being ranked lower than

1678
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 4: they were the year before, because they made plays. Man,

1679
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 4: they changed games. And that's really what we talked about

1680
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 4: all last offseason. And we'll see what happens this year.

1681
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 4: We don'tven know who's gonna be calling the plays yet.

1682
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here, but we'll take a

1683
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: look at the tweet sheet, which we have yet to

1684
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,080
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1685
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1686
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: defensive player you count on the most this season? Let's

1687
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,679
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1688
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Julio

1689
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 2: says Matt Milano is the only answer. His injury was

1690
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: devastating early on. If he can come back as strong

1691
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: as before, we'll have some great, top level depth at linebacker.

1692
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1693
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: We kind of covered that subject from seventeen for MVP.

1694
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: They say Terrell Bernard, he was the catalyst of our

1695
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: defense last year and I hope he just keeps getting

1696
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: better and better. We covered the Bernard answer as well.

1697
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: Connor says, I'm counting on too, Matt Mlano and Terrell Bernard. Okay,

1698
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: fair enough, He said, when Bernard came into form last season,

1699
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 2: the Bill's defense was dominant. The tandem of Bernard and Milano,

1700
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: I think will be the best linebacker duo in the NFL.

1701
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,919
Speaker 2: It was apparent last season in the absence of Milano.

1702
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Following his injury, Kyle with a new answer. He says,

1703
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: aj Epanessa needs to step up and be our number

1704
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: one pass rusher. That's saying something with guys ahead of

1705
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 2: him on the depth chart like Rousseau.

1706
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 4: And he signed him. They signed him back, he came

1707
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 4: back and they there's something there, so we'll see if

1708
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: aj can put together the kind of season that had

1709
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 4: Oliver did after they re signed him after his rookie deal.

1710
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: K Bar says, clearly Miller for me, if he cannot

1711
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: return to year one form and without Floyd, they will

1712
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: be hard pressed to generate enough QB pressure and Josh

1713
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: will be in shootouts in every game. We should mention

1714
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: that von Miller also took an eight and a half

1715
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:44,520
Speaker 2: million dollar haircut this offseason, So Jack says the linebackers

1716
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: may take all summer, but we need Milano to bounce

1717
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: back from his broken wheel and round back into his

1718
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: all pro form and Bernard to remain healthy. Those two

1719
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: will need to settle down the middle of that defense

1720
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 2: that could be in a bit of flux after the

1721
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: blood letting, particularly on the back end. And Steve said,

1722
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I think the answer has to be Bernard because he

1723
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: is the center of a defense that will have many

1724
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: new parts. Question in what will Milano be and Vaughn

1725
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: post injury and a new DC this year. His leadership

1726
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: skills will be important to bring this group together this season.

1727
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this about Bernard. You and I

1728
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 2: once in a while we crossed paths with coach. He's

1729
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 2: down here working out all the time. And he mentioned

1730
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: a story where week eighteen, he goes down because he

1731
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: wants to talk to the defense before they have to

1732
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 2: go back out in what was a tight game against

1733
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Miami for the division, and he goes I looked in

1734
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: the huddle and everybody's looking back at me, and Bernard's

1735
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 2: looking back at me, and he's like, we got it.

1736
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: And that's a first year starter. So I think that

1737
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: gave him a lot of confidence in Bernard as his

1738
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 2: leader of the defense.

1739
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 4: I think they got the right guy. We'll see.

1740
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. Big show tomorrow, Please join

1741
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: us at one pm. We'll see that