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Speaker 1: up tonight. Suns beat the Clippers last night to go
Speaker 1: up two games to none. We've been down this road
Speaker 1: before with the Clippers. Can they do it again? How
Speaker 1: many times can you keep going back to that, Well, hey,
Speaker 1: we lose the first two games. Well, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: have Kawhi Leonard anytime soon. This feels like a little
Speaker 1: bit different O two hole for them. Eight seven seven
Speaker 1: three D P Show Email address DP at Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. The Clippers raised
Speaker 1: two O deficits in the first two rounds of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But this certainly is different playing without Kawhire. You have
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. They didn't play well, Devin Booker didn't
Speaker 1: play well. You don't have Chris Paul. Now, granted you
Speaker 1: don't have Kawhi, but you got to steal one of
Speaker 1: these games. And it came down to those who didn't,
Speaker 1: and those who didn't came down to Paul George not
Speaker 1: making a couple of free throws with seven seconds to go.
Speaker 1: He missed five of ten free throws. The rest of
Speaker 1: the team missed one one of eight from three point range.
Speaker 1: As often or as much as we want to praise
Speaker 1: Paul George and we have in these postseason games, this
Speaker 1: is one of those where you have to be critical
Speaker 1: of Paul George. This is your team, this is your stage.
Speaker 1: They need you. You have to be big, you have
Speaker 1: to hit those shots. You gotta be clutch. You can't
Speaker 1: rely on Kawai to bail you out. And last night
Speaker 1: you had a chance to steal that. Give credit to
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns because Monny Williams called a great play
Speaker 1: nine tenths of a second to go and nine tenths
Speaker 1: of a second to go, and Devin Booker was the decoy.
Speaker 1: He set the pick that allowed DeAndre Eton to score
Speaker 1: the game winner at the buzzer. He didn't even know
Speaker 1: if he had committed offensive goldtending. He didn't know what
Speaker 1: the rule was. But you have Boogie Cousins who jumps
Speaker 1: as well as I do on the inbounds pass, and
Speaker 1: he's sort of shading to the other side of the court,
Speaker 1: not realizing that there might be an alley oop, so
Speaker 1: he doesn't really jump or can't jump that high. They
Speaker 1: throw it up. It's a beautifully die. It's a beautifully
Speaker 1: diagram play. Really was. I just want to know what
Speaker 1: were the Clippers thinking the Sons were going to call.
Speaker 1: That's what I kept thinking. Okay, nine tenths of a second,
Speaker 1: can Booker get a catch and shoot off balance deep? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably so. But DeAndre eight, with a pick set for him,
Speaker 1: went up Jay Crowder a perfect lob pass here and
Speaker 1: here's DeAndre a eight and describing what happened at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. Once I sat that first screaming camp,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I try to set up Zoo
Speaker 1: black to, you know, for book to have a good
Speaker 1: angle whenever. And I believe once my fee touched the
Speaker 1: paint where I can go off right, left, one, two,
Speaker 1: not many people are going to be up there with me.
Speaker 1: So that's why that's where I got confident at once
Speaker 1: I really got that gap there, nobody bumped me or
Speaker 1: you know, it was up man, you know that was it?
Speaker 1: I love it. Not many people are going to be
Speaker 1: up there where I am, but it was a beautifully
Speaker 1: placed pass there and that's your difference. One oh four,
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Speaker 1: I have a bet for these Suns Clippers series. I'll
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Speaker 1: favorite ways always. Okay, how confident are you that the
Speaker 1: Suns have this wrapped up? I guess to be specific?
Speaker 1: Which pinky? Can you pick? Which pinky? You know? If
Speaker 1: you're right handed? Do you want to lose your pinky fingering? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's okay. There was also a discussion on you in
Speaker 1: a tax free state like which you know a state
Speaker 1: tax free state? Is one hundred thousand enough for a pinky? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have great odds. You're up to nothing, and
Speaker 1: Chris Paul's coming back. I think a millions too much. Okay,
Speaker 1: what are the poll questions do you have? Okay? Uh,
Speaker 1: we thought we'd done with it now. I was hoping
Speaker 1: there might have been something a little more. Five minutes
Speaker 1: in is a little too early for that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well sprit yet if you want to get
Speaker 1: more ridiculous, let's get into this topic. Should the MLB
Speaker 1: continue checking pictures the way they're doing? Now? All right,
Speaker 1: I'll get to that topic in a little bit here.
Speaker 1: What else what's better TV? The NBA Draft lottery or
Speaker 1: the NFL schedule release, In other words, shows about nothing
Speaker 1: that was unintentionally funny last night. Because there are people
Speaker 1: who really don't have much to do with the team,
Speaker 1: or you don't care that they're there. Occasionally, you'll get
Speaker 1: Kevin Love showed up one year, Kim Ali Juan was
Speaker 1: there for the Rockets, Elgin Baylor was always there for
Speaker 1: the Clippers. But for the most part, you're just going,
Speaker 1: all right, it's a kind of a placeholder there, a
Speaker 1: seat filler. Hey, would you show up at the lottery
Speaker 1: and sit there and act enthusiastic? Hey, when they announced
Speaker 1: that we have the sixth overall pick, look really excited there,
Speaker 1: because you had some people who were going, uh, is
Speaker 1: this a good thing? Am I supposed to react? Here?
Speaker 1: Did we get what we And then the camera will
Speaker 1: focus on them and then they realize they're on camera
Speaker 1: and then they go okay, yeah, yeah, Paul, you were
Speaker 1: not entertained by Sacramento Kings general manager Monty McNair and
Speaker 1: his not as much as I normally am. How about
Speaker 1: the president of Basketball Operations, mister excitement Jeff Weltman of
Speaker 1: the Magic, I was not as excited as I normally am. Oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's on you though, yes it might be well then yeah,
Speaker 1: well as a media oh he's you get him out
Speaker 1: and get a couple of drinks in him. You remember, man,
Speaker 1: he's got some loose lips there. Well, man, yeah, what
Speaker 1: else you have? Another poll question? Is the NBA Draft
Speaker 1: still relevant? I know that sounds harsh, but I see
Speaker 1: the same five teams up there. I see the Orlando
Speaker 1: Magic picking five every year, and everyone's getting a six
Speaker 1: four swing guard that they had no idea about. Well,
Speaker 1: it feels like those swing guards are around six six
Speaker 1: or six seven now, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: they've grown. But it feels like every draft is basically
Speaker 1: the same player, just from a different place in the
Speaker 1: United States or a foreign country. And they come in
Speaker 1: and you know, he's a six eight tweener. He can
Speaker 1: play point. Uh, you know, he's got to work on
Speaker 1: his three point shooting. It just feels like they sort
Speaker 1: of had that profile for just about everybody there. Yes,
Speaker 1: But don't you feel like there was sort of a
Speaker 1: collective disappointment among maybe a handful of very talented young
Speaker 1: athletes last night when they saw Detroit number well, only one.
Speaker 1: I think Cade Cunningham out of Oklhoma State. He's probably
Speaker 1: the one going. Where am I going? Oh dear, when's
Speaker 1: the last time Detroit basketball was relevant? It's been a
Speaker 1: long Prince Rip Hamilton, maybe it's been a long time.
Speaker 1: It's not like the other options were so great. Do
Speaker 1: you want to be anything to do with the Houston
Speaker 1: Rockets right now? I know they have a bad Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I would. Yeah, because you went the green light,
Speaker 1: that's why you But if you're Kate Cunningham, you played
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State, Now you're gonna play at Houston. You're
Speaker 1: in a state no income tax. You got a team
Speaker 1: that can be your team when you step in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if there were great options there,
Speaker 1: but it does feel like, you know, you're you're seeing
Speaker 1: these schools and then you're not seeing the big schools,
Speaker 1: the big names that we normally see, and then you're
Speaker 1: seeing a G League team ignite and I think get
Speaker 1: used to that. I think we're going to see more
Speaker 1: of this where you know Nike's gonna have its own league,
Speaker 1: You're you're just gonna players are going to decide, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I can go to the G League, get paid,
Speaker 1: get developed, be a professional, play against pros, guys who
Speaker 1: have been in the league, and then I can be
Speaker 1: a lottery pick. And it feels like that's sort of
Speaker 1: where we're headed. It feels like there's more players who
Speaker 1: will look at that option, whereas before we thought, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna disappear. You know, LaMelo Ball, he went overseas,
Speaker 1: he played in Australia and what Lithuania came back. He
Speaker 1: didn't miss a beat I think if you can play,
Speaker 1: you can play. I think we look at Oh, you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss out on being on national TV. You're gonna
Speaker 1: go to Kentucky or Duke or North Carolina. You get
Speaker 1: to play on national TV. But look at the I
Speaker 1: found this interesting though. Jalen Suggs played for Gonzaga. He
Speaker 1: was wonderful this year. But his social media following. What
Speaker 1: are the numbers on his social media? Seaton, do you
Speaker 1: have those Jalen Suggs. Yeah, his Instagram, he's got about
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty six thousand followers. Okay, so after
Speaker 1: a run in the tournament, they were gonna go undefeated,
Speaker 1: We're gonna win a national title. He was a great story.
Speaker 1: Former quarterback in high school and a big time recruiter.
Speaker 1: Goes to Gonzaga. Who has the most followers social media
Speaker 1: was of the potential lottery picks. Well, if you look
Speaker 1: at we'll just say the other Jalen Jalen Green. He's
Speaker 1: got one point two million and he went to the
Speaker 1: G League, right right, he actually has Jalen Ramsey only
Speaker 1: has well, not only but has one point one million,
Speaker 1: So he actually has more followers than Jalen Ramsey. Does
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Yeah, my club. They're high school guys right
Speaker 1: who have gigantic following. Yeah, I mean the biggest point,
Speaker 1: does Brownie count or is that a different that's different? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he inherited his father's following. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Seton had a great You don't need to go to
Speaker 1: college to get your profile up anymore. No, you don't,
Speaker 1: and we think that you have to. Zion could have.
Speaker 1: His profile was huge when he was in high school.
Speaker 1: It's because social media, if it's Instagram, Ram or TikTok,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what they're capitalizing on. And you know
Speaker 1: these athletes, if they do go to college, are going
Speaker 1: to be they're going to be using those those social
Speaker 1: media platforms to be able to make a lot of money. Yeah, McLeman.
Speaker 1: One disappointment I had last night that I have no
Speaker 1: idea if it's even true that the Warriors got the
Speaker 1: number seven pick. I was like, Oh, wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: cool if the Warriors could have added a top two
Speaker 1: or three pick, although it might have been protected because
Speaker 1: it was a trade, but that was a one team
Speaker 1: I saw last night that I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: they could be exciting. Are they building something? They have
Speaker 1: seven and fourteen James Wiseman. Curry, you're kind of bullish
Speaker 1: on the Warriors. Well, with Clay, I thought that they
Speaker 1: could compete for the title this year. Can they rebuild
Speaker 1: to the point where they were at some point? Well,
Speaker 1: you got your window. It looks like it's about three
Speaker 1: years with Steph and Clay. How healthy is Clay going
Speaker 1: to be the development of Wiseman? You know, they had
Speaker 1: some players who stepped up with Golden State this year
Speaker 1: and it wasn't necessarily a one man team with Steph,
Speaker 1: but he did lead the league in scoring Yeampoli. But
Speaker 1: then you look at the draft, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys we don't know. Devin Booker. No one thought he'd
Speaker 1: be a superstar. Nobody did. He was the fourth Kentucky
Speaker 1: player taken in the twenty fifteen draft, Karl Anthony Towns,
Speaker 1: Trey Lyles, both Harrison brothers, Willie Cauley Stein. Yes, they
Speaker 1: were all taken before they had I think seven or
Speaker 1: eight players who got drafted or Booker didn't even start
Speaker 1: for Kentucky, right, he was a thirteenth overall pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody had him, but that's you know, Tim Legler is
Speaker 1: going to join us. If you look at the draft,
Speaker 1: nobody thought Jannis could be this good. Nobody thought Kawhi
Speaker 1: could be this good. Nobody thought the Joker could be
Speaker 1: this good. Devin Booker. Devin Booker average ten points a
Speaker 1: game at Kentucky is freshman year. Who's up top or
Speaker 1: who you think is going to be good? There's always
Speaker 1: going to be an outlier always, if not one, you
Speaker 1: know two or three. And but to try to handicap that.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to Tim Legler about that Legs
Speaker 1: will join us. I want to know what he thought
Speaker 1: the Clippers were thinking that final play was going to
Speaker 1: be all about, because I do wonder it felt like
Speaker 1: it was going to be a pick and pop for
Speaker 1: Devin Booker in a quick shot with nine tenths of
Speaker 1: a second. We'll take a break, just getting started here.
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Speaker 1: Sun's Clippers Game two. We'll have that for you coming up.
Speaker 1: Stay in your cars for that. Okay, settle on a
Speaker 1: poll question. Play of the day's stat of the day.
Speaker 1: Here's ty Lou, the Clippers head coach, after the devastating
Speaker 1: loss last night. That one get away. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: we felt. But the conference, I mean, the compens of
Speaker 1: his team has a waiver. You know. Gus said, all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta go home now. And there wasn't disappeared. So
Speaker 1: now I said, we fought hard, we played, played, you know,
Speaker 1: do to win this game. I don't know if wasn't
Speaker 1: it happens and we guys got to move on. You
Speaker 1: ready for Game three. Clippers raised two O deficits the
Speaker 1: first two rounds of the playoffs, but this when fields
Speaker 1: a little bit different. Let's bring in the former Phoenix
Speaker 1: Sun Tim Legler, the ESPN NBA reporter who joins US
Speaker 1: analyst Sons Legend. How many games did you play for
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns in your career? Oh? Not many. I
Speaker 1: was there for two ten days my rookie year. That
Speaker 1: was my very first taste of NBA basketball and my
Speaker 1: very first NBA points on an assist from the great,
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson. I'm running the left wing and kJ had
Speaker 1: the ball in the middle. He kicked it out to me.
Speaker 1: I just got there that morning. I barely even knew
Speaker 1: the guys on the team, and I heard Cotton Fitzsimmons
Speaker 1: say Legler in that draw about you know. Late first quarter,
Speaker 1: I stood up. I didn't know any of the play.
Speaker 1: I go to the court. One of the first trips,
Speaker 1: I run the floor in the left wing after a
Speaker 1: turnover and kJ hit me, I'll never forget it, Dan,
Speaker 1: I shot a jumper on the left baseline and it
Speaker 1: came out of my hand. I knew pretty much immediately
Speaker 1: was going in and kJ gave me a nice wink
Speaker 1: and a point running back down the floor. That was
Speaker 1: in my first two NBA points in a Phoenix Suns uniform. Nice. Nice.
Speaker 1: Let me start in reverse here at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, what play do you think the Clippers thought
Speaker 1: the Suns were going to run? I think there's no
Speaker 1: question they're expecting Devin Booker to set some sort of
Speaker 1: screen and then pop out, And that's really how they
Speaker 1: defended it. If you look at Nicholas Patum, who they
Speaker 1: put on Booker for a very specific reason because he's
Speaker 1: six foot eight, he's long, and they figure point nine
Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to put it down,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to catch it and shoot it,
Speaker 1: so you want extra length on him. And when you
Speaker 1: look at the wind, Booker set the screen, but Tom
Speaker 1: isn't thinking about bumping at all on DeAndre eight. You know,
Speaker 1: normally the screens two screens, screen being set with two
Speaker 1: guys that don't have the ball, you're hoping that you're
Speaker 1: going to get a bump by the defender of the
Speaker 1: screener in this case, Buttom didn't happen because he was
Speaker 1: so worried. If he bumps Booker pops to the corner,
Speaker 1: he's not going to recover. So as a result, there's
Speaker 1: nobody touching DeAndre Ayton and he basically gets that quick
Speaker 1: free run to the rim and then boogie Cousins. Obviously
Speaker 1: I've talked about a lot here. He's been he's lined
Speaker 1: up improperly, he's got his shoulders square to the back.
Speaker 1: It's basically to antinue a mid court line, and as
Speaker 1: a result, you're given Jay Crowder a direct sight line
Speaker 1: to the rim. You know, six to eleven, you put
Speaker 1: him on the ball for a reason, you cannot allow
Speaker 1: Jay Crowder to see unimpeded a direct line where he
Speaker 1: wants to throw the ball at the rim and boogie,
Speaker 1: because he's just didn't do enough to impede his vision,
Speaker 1: and as a result, it worked perfectly. Monty Williams never
Speaker 1: could have a million years dreamed that was going to
Speaker 1: work that way that easily when he drew that up.
Speaker 1: He's hoping, but there's no way he can have vision
Speaker 1: all that going right. Aton didn't even know the goaltending rule.
Speaker 1: He thought he might have committed offensive goaltending there. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people did. You could
Speaker 1: see he was so sheepish. He dunked it and he
Speaker 1: immediately looked around. If you don't reminded me of go
Speaker 1: back to Lawrenzo Charles. Yeah right, he dunked it and
Speaker 1: he didn't know he same thing, put his hands like
Speaker 1: to the side, like you had committed a crime, and
Speaker 1: he didn't want any evidence on the basketball. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what Lorenzo Charles looked like, and that's exactly what
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton looked like. And a lot of people were
Speaker 1: debating it at first, and you know, just thinking about
Speaker 1: the logic of it, because you can't score from out
Speaker 1: of bounds where you're throwing the ball, you know it
Speaker 1: has to be a pass in a game. The reason
Speaker 1: that that could be considered offensive goaltending because you're not
Speaker 1: sure if that's a shot or a past. Necessarily, in
Speaker 1: this case, you know it's got to be a pass
Speaker 1: because you can't throw it indirectly from out of bounce.
Speaker 1: Would you rather lose a game like that or get
Speaker 1: blown out if you're the Clippers, I think that way.
Speaker 1: I was just one of those people I hated getting
Speaker 1: blown out. I mean, it never felt good to get
Speaker 1: blown out. I think what they've got to hang their
Speaker 1: hat on is what torond Lou said a couple things. First,
Speaker 1: they did enough, They hung in there, it persevered enough
Speaker 1: to have a chance to win the game. And you know,
Speaker 1: I look at something no one's really talking about. Dan,
Speaker 1: You're talking about bad luck, the three that Bridges took
Speaker 1: right before that. Look at the way the ball caroms
Speaker 1: off the rim. It's very bizarre from a corner three
Speaker 1: point shot for that ball to hit the rim and
Speaker 1: not project up into the air at all, because if
Speaker 1: it does, the game is going to end no matter
Speaker 1: who gets three bound instead, It's very strange. It hits
Speaker 1: the rim and it like skirts sideways at such a
Speaker 1: direct angle nobody can grab it. And it happened so
Speaker 1: quickly it allowed them point nine. That's just bad luck
Speaker 1: that that ball did that. If that ball kicks up
Speaker 1: in the air, the game's over and it's one one
Speaker 1: and they feel completely differently. But you said it, two
Speaker 1: oh against this team is different than the two Oh's
Speaker 1: Day have faced in the first two rounds. We praise
Speaker 1: Paul George. We bury Paul George. This is your moment.
Speaker 1: You don't have Kauai. You missed two big free throws,
Speaker 1: you missed five free throws on the night, you go
Speaker 1: one of eight from three point range. I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you assess Paul George here in that performance last night?
Speaker 1: Man oh man? You know, and I've been hard on
Speaker 1: him over the years. You know, I go back and
Speaker 1: going into this postseason, I go and look at the
Speaker 1: way his seasons have ended for him personally. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not just what happened last year against Denver going
Speaker 1: four for sixteen. He had moments, you know, Okloma City
Speaker 1: against Utah where he was so bad in that series.
Speaker 1: To close that out about going back in Indiana series,
Speaker 1: he had some games against Cleveland when he was playing
Speaker 1: in Indiana at key moments, like series defining moment. This,
Speaker 1: He's been great. He really has been. He's been so consistent,
Speaker 1: so good. He's had a couple of nights that he's
Speaker 1: awful little bit, but for the most part, man, as
Speaker 1: he stepped up and then he gets this moment, and
Speaker 1: what's odd about it is, I just don't think that's
Speaker 1: a choke job. I know he went to the line
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty one times this year to shoot
Speaker 1: two free throws and he did not healing this two once.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like, yeah, that's a choke If you
Speaker 1: look at the two balls, that's just not the case.
Speaker 1: That's not what happened. If you look at the two
Speaker 1: balls that he shot, the first one's in and out.
Speaker 1: The second one is dead straight, perfectly shot, and it
Speaker 1: just hits the back of the rim, comes right back
Speaker 1: to him. So I don't think it's a choke job.
Speaker 1: I just think that it was unfortunate and now he's
Speaker 1: going to have to wear that. It's a shame for
Speaker 1: him because he's played so well. He's Tim Legler ESPN
Speaker 1: NBA analyst. I was mentioning this earlier about Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: that I mean he averaged ten points a game as
Speaker 1: freshman year at Kentucky. He comes out, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: the fourth Kentucky player Draft did that year. You got
Speaker 1: Janis who nobody knew about, Kawai who nobody knew about,
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, nobody knew about the Joker, nobody knew about. Man,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to assess talent in becoming even harder.
Speaker 1: It feels like legs this coming off, you know, the
Speaker 1: lottery last night, harder than it's ever been. It's funny
Speaker 1: you mentioned that that class, and I remember that press
Speaker 1: conference to announce they were coming out, and it looked
Speaker 1: like a banquet. There was twenty two guys on the
Speaker 1: stage and the Harrison brothers are sitting on the end,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, man, these guys don't even want to
Speaker 1: come out, but he's got two five star point guards
Speaker 1: coming in. They didn't have a choice. Like everybody's coming out.
Speaker 1: The equipment manager came out and everybody themselves for the
Speaker 1: draft that year. And I remember watching that and thinking,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker. To me, it is a nice player. It
Speaker 1: was impossible to know what you had in a year,
Speaker 1: and it's harder and harder because there's so much growth
Speaker 1: in those first couple of years Dan and now Devin
Speaker 1: Booker is legitimate a star offensive player. I know you
Speaker 1: have to go. You're doing some hits for the Mothership.
Speaker 1: If you could help Ben Simmons, is there a way
Speaker 1: to help him? Look mechanically, I could definitely help him,
Speaker 1: But more than anything else, he absolutely needs to see
Speaker 1: a sports psychologist because to me, he has a fear
Speaker 1: of failure that is interrupting his muscle memory and it's
Speaker 1: not even allowing him to process the moment right when
Speaker 1: to shoot, when not to shoot. You can't have shooting
Speaker 1: as an afterthought. It's got to be anticipatory. It's proactive motion.
Speaker 1: It's something you're premeditating a lot of times that you're
Speaker 1: going to shoot. You're anticipating being open. He doesn't do
Speaker 1: any of those things because he has a fear of
Speaker 1: failure for whatever reason. They've got to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of that before the mechanics can be addressed. Always
Speaker 1: great to talk to your legs. Thanks for making time.
Speaker 1: You got it. Thanks. That's Tim Legler ESPN NBA analyst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that mental hurdle and what do you do? And look,
Speaker 1: Daryl Morey is the seventy six ers to him, he's
Speaker 1: saying all the right things that, Hey, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of teams that are envious of the talent we
Speaker 1: have and would love to be in the same position
Speaker 1: as us. Okay, are you going to continue to maintain
Speaker 1: that position? Are you can continue to have Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: as your point guard? I think that's really the key issue.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. It almost feels like Joe lmbid.
Speaker 1: His body language is telling you, I don't have confidence
Speaker 1: in this guy, and basically I don't want him out
Speaker 1: there in the fourth quarter. But Ben doesn't have confidence
Speaker 1: in Ben being out there in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: that that's really hard to try to quantify and go, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: if we just do this, it'll get better. I truly
Speaker 1: believe if you put Ben Simmons on another team where
Speaker 1: the expectation levels aren't that high. Now, this is about
Speaker 1: winning a championship. You bring in Doc Rivers and Bead
Speaker 1: gives you an MVP like season. You're spending money on
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris, You're like, you're you're read to go, and
Speaker 1: he's holding you back. And I think if he went
Speaker 1: to a place like Houston, let's say, where he had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a team and not have to
Speaker 1: defer and worry about Joe lmbid, I think that he
Speaker 1: would benefit from that. I do think he needs a
Speaker 1: couple of games performances where he has that positivity there
Speaker 1: that he can sort of lean on when he gets
Speaker 1: to the next game. If not, I just think this continues.
Speaker 1: I think the Philly fans, they're they're going to be
Speaker 1: less than patient. Now in the media in Philadelphia the
Speaker 1: same way, and I think it's only going to get worse.
Speaker 1: You can fix his form, but you've got to fix
Speaker 1: him mentally, and that's really hard to find somebody who
Speaker 1: got There's a lot of shooting coaches out there, wonderful
Speaker 1: shooting coaches, but this is different. This is more than
Speaker 1: just hey, we fixed his form. Yeah. Mcclub feels like
Speaker 1: we're escape him a little bit, because, I mean, Joe
Speaker 1: Ellen beats fitness is a massive problem. Like even the
Speaker 1: coaches like I can't get him to play well in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter because it's gas. Yeah, and it's the
Speaker 1: same problem like and also Tobias Harris, you can never
Speaker 1: get rid of him because of his money. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: like so it Simmons feels like he's taking all the
Speaker 1: arrows here, but there's obviously other problems. Yeah, Doc Rivers too, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I absolutely this is what happens. We single out one moment,
Speaker 1: one person, and then that's the focus of well, this
Speaker 1: is their problem. Doc Rivers has not coached well in
Speaker 1: big games, but in Beid played through. He's gonna need
Speaker 1: knee surgery here. Now he's not in shape. He has
Speaker 1: to get in shape, better shape. Tobias Harris has to
Speaker 1: decide do you want to be a big time player.
Speaker 1: You're getting paid like a big time player? Are you
Speaker 1: a big time player? Like Seth Curry shouldn't be your
Speaker 1: second best player. I give him credit. He's made himself
Speaker 1: into a very very good player. That's the guy you
Speaker 1: get as your fourth best player. And then when you
Speaker 1: have that man, that makes you so dangerous here. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: you brought up Ben Simmons yesterday. It was a really
Speaker 1: good point you had about that game against um Utah,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's a thing where he played that game
Speaker 1: against Utah where it was obviously on him. Utah's a
Speaker 1: tough team, they're on the road. He had forty two
Speaker 1: points twelve or thirteen from the line, fifteen and twenty
Speaker 1: six in the field. He had no choice but to
Speaker 1: be the man like he hadn't He couldn't even he
Speaker 1: had no choice. The deferring was not a possibility, and
Speaker 1: it made it better. Obviously that game is not I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's a fluke, but it's it's a proved
Speaker 1: that it can happen. Yeah, I mglovid. Yeah. He loves
Speaker 1: to shoot when the clock is running down because you know,
Speaker 1: like twenty four second clock. Yeah, then he fires off
Speaker 1: threes because it's in his head, like he said, I
Speaker 1: gotta shoot, and he's pretty good. But well then it
Speaker 1: feels like, hey, I had to get that shot up
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go in. I know this mindset. So
Speaker 1: he's thinking, you know, twenty one, twenty two on the
Speaker 1: shot clock, or it's winding down to two seconds, three seconds,
Speaker 1: Hey I got that up. I didn't go in, but
Speaker 1: I had to get that shot off. Therefore, it takes
Speaker 1: a little bit of the pressure if he takes that
Speaker 1: jumper with sixteen seconds left. Then you're gonna get why'd
Speaker 1: you take it at sixteen seconds? Couldn't we have gotten
Speaker 1: a better shot there? This allows him to do it,
Speaker 1: but also not you know, face that same kind of
Speaker 1: blame or pressure or being singled own. Yeah, mclub. If
Speaker 1: he was like the number twenty pick in the draft
Speaker 1: or something like it, he was that. It's hard. What
Speaker 1: don't we view what a great role player he is.
Speaker 1: It's like a matter of expectations to some degree. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Reggie Bush, like like Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler was
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 1: You know, Kawai couldn't shoot, but boy he could play defense.
Speaker 1: Jannis Man, he's got he's got potential, but they got better.
Speaker 1: Ben was the opposite. It's like, here's the expectation level,
Speaker 1: and Kate Cunningham at o'kloma State's gonna face this. You're
Speaker 1: the number one pick probably with Detroit, come on in,
Speaker 1: let's see what you got. Now. The expectation level is
Speaker 1: that's not a good team. We're not going to expect
Speaker 1: the team to be that good. Anthony Edwards with Minnesota,
Speaker 1: all right, you went there. Nobody cared about Minnesota. You know,
Speaker 1: you win a handful of games, no pressure there. But
Speaker 1: you know when you're in that position of hey, they
Speaker 1: took me twenty first. Devin Booker had no pressure. He
Speaker 1: was just like coming in. You know, I got four
Speaker 1: other Kentucky guys who went before me, unknown, got a
Speaker 1: nice shot, all right, average ten points is one year
Speaker 1: at Kentucky and then all of a sudden you get confident,
Speaker 1: you get playing time, and then after that. I look
Speaker 1: at the confidence of Devin Booker and look at the
Speaker 1: confidence or lack thereof with Ben Simmons. Bench probably got
Speaker 1: more all around talent and he's the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: He's no confidence. Confidence makes you a bad mother on
Speaker 1: the floor. Man. There are guys that had confidence and
Speaker 1: you go, how does he have that much confidence? But
Speaker 1: they do and it makes you a better player. Ben
Speaker 1: needs to have He needs to tap into something that
Speaker 1: says I'm good, I'm great, I can take over this game.
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball, We've seen that. I love Lonzo Ball's game.
Speaker 1: LaMelo is the one who has the confidence, not Lonzo.
Speaker 1: LaMelo is not afraid of a moment. Lonzo is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paully There's an article all Ben Simmons when he was
Speaker 1: still in high school and the title the headline is
Speaker 1: imagine if Magic Johns were a bigger, stronger, and more athletic.
Speaker 1: That's Ben Simmons. That was from ESPN dot com. I
Speaker 1: mean this is he came in with tons of expectations.
Speaker 1: Paul George has shot two free throws at at the
Speaker 1: you know, in the same possession two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: seven times in his playoff career. He's missed both shots
Speaker 1: ten times. Six of the ten came in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Stat of the day, Sat of the day, that last
Speaker 1: stat of the day, stat of the day, here comes
Speaker 1: that what stat of the day. When you have a
Speaker 1: finish like that last night, sometimes things get overshadowed. The
Speaker 1: story of campaign. Cameron Payne is like that, he was
Speaker 1: wonderful last night. Yeah, twenty nine and he's played well
Speaker 1: and you're probably going, who yeah, Cameron Payne. He had
Speaker 1: a Murray State Yeah, your Racers. Yeah. But to have
Speaker 1: those moments without Chris Paul in there, and to get
Speaker 1: those moments to get playoff to night. He's fourteenth pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. He was considered underside, like he came
Speaker 1: in it's like, all right, you got pick fourteenth, no
Speaker 1: expectations whatsoever. But he played extremely well last night. The
Speaker 1: Suns had won nine straight postseason games. That's the longest
Speaker 1: streak and franchise history. That's the longest in the NBA
Speaker 1: since the Warriors won fifteen in a row back in
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen playoffs. Why not back up, back to back?
Speaker 1: The day stad of the day comes that? What say? Yes, Paul,
Speaker 1: I know you know this bother of me, but you're you.
Speaker 1: You have your last name is Pain and you name
Speaker 1: your son Cam. Yeah, I know it's Cameron Payne. But
Speaker 1: it's easily you could shorten into campaign. He's a fantastic player.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a great kid. I kind of like it.
Speaker 1: You like campaign. Yeah, so bend Over is okay if
Speaker 1: you're kids, that is okay. No bend Over that's that's
Speaker 1: embarrassing over. But campaign that's okay. Yeah, all right, so
Speaker 1: it's positive, like there's a campaign for campaign all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but bend Over no, No, that's not a good one. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of his, you would be pro pain.
Speaker 1: That was there is a little brothers pro little brother
Speaker 1: pro Pain you got one, Todd, I figured yours was great.
Speaker 1: His uncle is named lower back paint long m. I
Speaker 1: don't know, PAULI that was a Fritzie. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to he didn't have anything. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: blow the whistle. And yet, yes, Todd, you're thinking after
Speaker 1: going too politics unless you have like an MVP campaign.
Speaker 1: That's that's someone that's got to be like a senator
Speaker 1: or congressman of your campaign. Yeah, that's all I got
Speaker 1: right now? Uh, do you want to do your limerick here?
Speaker 1: So I'd like, okay, let's take a break here because
Speaker 1: I always like pipe it up. Yes, yeah, how about
Speaker 1: you do it during the break. But nobody's all right,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We got our play of the day
Speaker 1: and Todd has a limerick. The sun's over the Clippers
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Speaker 1: more mentioned with DeAndre Ayton. He was the number one
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, the same draft that you had
Speaker 1: Luca don Chick and Trey Young in and at the
Speaker 1: time it felt like we didn't focus on DeAndre Ayton
Speaker 1: as much as well why didn't the Hawks t you know,
Speaker 1: take Luca don Chick. Well, my thought was, why is
Speaker 1: it that Phoenix who had Luca don Chick's head coach,
Speaker 1: not take Luca don Chick. And then I was told
Speaker 1: that the owner, you know, getting a local product DeAndre
Speaker 1: Ayton at the University of Arizona and and look he's
Speaker 1: played well, now this is this is like transformational time
Speaker 1: for big men, Like what do you do? What can
Speaker 1: you do? What is his value? I think is really
Speaker 1: the key here? And can you guard on a double?
Speaker 1: You know, when you switch, when you have a pick
Speaker 1: and pop, can the big guy get out? We saw
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert, as great as he is defensively, he couldn't
Speaker 1: guard Terrence Man on a pick and roll and Evan
Speaker 1: Mobiley the USC center, who will be probably a top
Speaker 1: five pick. You know, I wonder what his future is.
Speaker 1: And I loved him last year. I thought that he was,
Speaker 1: you know, one of those you could see greatness in him.
Speaker 1: But with what the NBA is right now, the big
Speaker 1: men have to be able to guard on the pick
Speaker 1: and roll. And DeAndre Ayton is Now he's not a
Speaker 1: big big man. You know, he's he's at letic. He's
Speaker 1: not somebody who's going to use his body as much
Speaker 1: as you know, I'm a big guy, and he's got
Speaker 1: mobility and he's able to guard. But he's got you know,
Speaker 1: now we're starting to see what you know, the Phoenix
Speaker 1: Sun saw in him. Now, did they make the right choice?
Speaker 1: I guess you can say they did. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got Devin Booker and you got Chris Paul Cameron Payne.
Speaker 1: You know, so would you find a place for Luca
Speaker 1: don Chick? Of course you would. The Luca is not playing.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton has played well. Trey Young is still playing.
Speaker 1: As much as we look at Luca and say yes,
Speaker 1: statistically spectacular, no, but now he's got to take that
Speaker 1: next step gonna have a new head coach, front office
Speaker 1: in disarray. Does he get along with poor zingis what's
Speaker 1: happening next is going to go a long way in
Speaker 1: the legacy of Luca don Chick. Because you can be
Speaker 1: a statistical anomaly, you want to be a winner. If
Speaker 1: you said to Trey Young, hey, you can put up
Speaker 1: triple doubles and you know, put up these magical numbers
Speaker 1: like Luca, but you're not going to be this far
Speaker 1: in the postseason. Trey Young's taking this. This is better
Speaker 1: for the profile brand of Trey Young, that he's not
Speaker 1: just hey, he's a Steph Curry want to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been the leader of a team that's won big
Speaker 1: games on the road, including a Game seven in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Yea mclovin. I think everyone deserves credit for not taking
Speaker 1: Marvin Bagley the third with number one pick. I know
Speaker 1: that was Paul Paullly loved Marvin Bagley. I like a duke,
Speaker 1: big guys. I'm sticking with Bagley. He's just he's ready
Speaker 1: to break out any minute. Well, I said, I thought
Speaker 1: Jaren Jackson Junior, the third with Memphis, was going to
Speaker 1: be the best player he's good, but he got hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just looked at his stats. He only played a
Speaker 1: few games this year. Yeah, I have that draft and
Speaker 1: Jaren Jackson, he's a Memphis in fifteen and five. He's
Speaker 1: very young. He's the youngest player in the league now,
Speaker 1: came in that league. Yeah, Marvin Bagleys that was like
Speaker 1: fifteen and seven, which is nice. But when you see
Speaker 1: Luca's numbers and tray Young's numbers, everyone else is Colin
Speaker 1: Sexton out of Alabama. He's evering a twenty points a
Speaker 1: game now it's with Cleveland. It's pumped up. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's a gunner, shake Gilgas, Alexander. I like him? Is
Speaker 1: it bad? That rooted head? He wouldn't be good so
Speaker 1: I didn't have to learn how to pronounce his name,
Speaker 1: which I still can't pronounce. No offense. Seems like a
Speaker 1: nice kid. Yeah, yes, yes, I would love to see
Speaker 1: a redraft of this draft. He's Michael Porter if I
Speaker 1: fell the fourteen in that one, and he's very polarizing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't play defense yet. All Yeah, if you did redraft,
Speaker 1: does Sphoenix still take DeAndre Ayton? You gotta think it's Luca, right,
Speaker 1: I think you gotta take Luca, Like DeAndre Ayton is
Speaker 1: a good player, Luca don Chick has a chance to
Speaker 1: be an all time great player. I'd on think DeAndre Ayton,
Speaker 1: given the position he plays, can be an all time
Speaker 1: great player. Trey Young, I don't know if he can
Speaker 1: be an all time great player, but I think he
Speaker 1: can be a great player. Yeah, Paul, Devin Booker would
Speaker 1: be the only person on Earth that wouldn't vote for
Speaker 1: the Suns to take Luca because he would want to
Speaker 1: get some shots up at some point during the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we have the limerick. The Son's over the
Speaker 1: Clippers and the stage belongs to John Fritz. It looked
Speaker 1: like La standing tall until Crowder got eighten the ball
Speaker 1: playoff pee Mistress free throws more Clippers down to owoes,
Speaker 1: and maybe the return of Chris Paul. I think it's
Speaker 1: Todd's limerick today. Yes, Paul. I was actually entertained by
Speaker 1: that because I liked when he went, oh woes showed
Speaker 1: a little creative. Okay, they you'll always say that there's
Speaker 1: you know, people are negative on social media. In this room,
Speaker 1: you got people who embrace. I like the support. That's appreciator.
Speaker 1: Everyone to stop up my game and do think of
Speaker 1: more creative things to do when the supports there. PAULI
Speaker 1: wasn't being on the first twenty limericks you do not,
Speaker 1: but he liked that one. I'll take it. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Why I can get it progress? Yes week, Lovin. I
Speaker 1: like it because you know it's a mental break. You
Speaker 1: check your email. Very nice? All right, I'm gonna tease it.
Speaker 1: I haven't probably the worst poll I've ever put on
Speaker 1: the site because I've worded it wrong and the results
Speaker 1: are ninety nine percent to one. Okay, is this the
Speaker 1: Sun's one hundred thousand dollars Clippers you lose a pink
Speaker 1: But it's even worse because I worded it. Okay said
Speaker 1: let me hear. Uh, here's your choices. Sun win series,
Speaker 1: Suns win series and you get two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: or the Clippers wins. Here the series and you lose
Speaker 1: a pinkie. Which one do you want? I meant to say,
Speaker 1: if two would you take that bet? But instead, surprisingly
Speaker 1: only one percent want to lose a pinkie? What is that?
Speaker 1: One percent? Thinking they're into pain and not campaign. I
Speaker 1: have to rob to workshop that one yeah, christ and Phoenix, Hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: Danny five ten and a semi gillettin is two twenty. Heky, So,
Speaker 1: I got a comment about last night's game and then
Speaker 1: I need some advice. So it seems like it took
Speaker 1: forever for them to figure out if it was goaltending
Speaker 1: or not. But Van Gundi and Jackson they knew right
Speaker 1: away that it wasn't. So I hope, I hope that
Speaker 1: the officiating crew knew that. But it's like the great
Speaker 1: comedian Bill Burr said, you can watch the entire Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings trilogy in the last two minutes of
Speaker 1: an NBA Playoffs game. Yeah, that's true. We were talking
Speaker 1: about that. It's just the commercial inventory that it feels
Speaker 1: like it's just too much and and it takes away
Speaker 1: from the flow of the game and the replays and
Speaker 1: how long. I know you want to get it right,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like, oh, every time there's a stoppage,
Speaker 1: I just gog and you had that a couple of
Speaker 1: times last night. Of the fifteen players named All NBA
Speaker 1: First Second Third Team, fourteen were first round and five
Speaker 1: were taken within the first three picks. The Joker was
Speaker 1: forty first pick second round. But everybody else three seven, fifteen, fifteen, one, three, four,
Speaker 1: six seven. I mean even Julius Randall went seven, Kyrie one,
Speaker 1: Beal went three, Paul George ten, Rudy Gobert twenty seven,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler thirty. What did we prove of that stat Paulie,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a top three draft pick
Speaker 1: three all NBA. All right, more phone calls coming up.
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