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Speaker 1: Welcome to the freedom hut Buck Sex here with you now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. Oh boy, and I'm

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Speaker 1: this maybe it they may not have found anything else,

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Speaker 1: and and Flynn decided with his lawyers, I'll negotiate a

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Speaker 1: deal so that I'll get something better than I would

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Speaker 1: if I go to court and Flynn saink stuff like

433
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Speaker 1: my conduct was bad, I'm sorry, I was naughty all that.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of to be expected, right if you take

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Speaker 1: a federal plea, you want to do the whole I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry thing, even if you're not that sorry. Yeah. You

437
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Speaker 1: Usually what lawyers advise their clients to do is that, uh, look,

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Speaker 1: if you do a plea deal and you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be sentenced by a judge, you had better acknowledge your

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Speaker 1: guilt and apologize for what you do, because if you

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Speaker 1: come in unapologetic, you're gonna get a much worse deal

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Speaker 1: from the judge. Are you worried that this is going

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Speaker 1: somewhere that would be putting aside? I mean, obviously there's

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Speaker 1: there's a there is a partisan witch hunt aspect of this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the overwhelming motivation for what's been going

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Speaker 1: on with the Mueller probe over the last year. But

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Speaker 1: are you concerned that from the perspective of a major

448
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Speaker 1: crisis at the very top of the White House would

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Speaker 1: be a problem for the whole country. Are you worried

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Speaker 1: about that, Hans, or do you think this is gonna

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Speaker 1: end with Is this whole thing going to end with

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Speaker 1: a whimper? Well, you know, I hate to predict. I

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Speaker 1: I suspect it's gonna end with a with a whimper

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Speaker 1: unless there's all this unknown information. We don't know. But

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Speaker 1: like I said, so far, three different actually four different indictments,

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Speaker 1: and not a single one provided any any evidence, uh,

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Speaker 1: of any kind of Russian collusion. They were all connected

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Speaker 1: to other things. Hans von Smakowski, senior legal fellow at

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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation, author of the book Obama's Enforcer, Eric

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Speaker 1: Holder's Justice Department. Hans, always great to have. You have

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Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend, sir Alright, team, huh, we are going

462
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Speaker 1: to come back and and talk about another bombshell legal case,

463
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Speaker 1: and this one. I you. The last night I was

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Speaker 1: on air, I knew the decision was gonna come down,

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Speaker 1: and I got so caught up in what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about in the third hour that I didn't even get

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to address it last night when it came down.

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Speaker 1: Because we're getting towards the end of finishing up the show.

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Speaker 1: And it's the verdict about the King Steinley murder. I well,

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Speaker 1: we will talk about this it It was uh jaw dropping,

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Speaker 1: it was astonishing. I am rarely surprised in these matters,

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Speaker 1: and this one was a surprise for me, I will

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Speaker 1: admit it. Uh. And and it also has really rocked

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Speaker 1: what little faith I have in the justice system. Or

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Speaker 1: perhaps a better way to put it is that it

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Speaker 1: has just solidified my sense that there is no such

477
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Speaker 1: thing as justice in this country anymore. There's just politics.

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Speaker 1: That's a very cynical view, but unfortunately I think it's

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Speaker 1: a very accurate one. These days, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: that verdict in the Kate Steinley shooting, how this could

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Speaker 1: have happened, how not guilty verdict could have come down

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Speaker 1: on the manslaughter true charge. It's it's we'll get to it.

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Speaker 1: Stay with me right now, Brian. It certainly would seem

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Speaker 1: to suggest that Michael Flynn had a fair amount of

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Speaker 1: information to offer a special counsel in return. That's right, George.

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Speaker 1: He has promised a full cooperation to the Mower team.

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Speaker 1: He's prepared to testify. We are told by a confident

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Speaker 1: against President Trump against members of the Trump family and

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Speaker 1: others in the White House. He's prepared to testify the

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Speaker 1: President Trump. As a candidate, Donald Trump ordered him directed

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Speaker 1: him to make contest with the Russians. M contradicts all

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has said at this point as well.

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Speaker 1: We're told that Flynn made the decision to cooperate only

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours, that he is distraught

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Speaker 1: about the decision, but feels he's doing the right thing

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Speaker 1: for his country, that he was facing very import impo hours.

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Speaker 1: Let's cut cut cut that off now, because that's ABC

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Speaker 1: News with Clinton operative turn journalist George Stephanopolos saying that

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Speaker 1: candidate Trump that means pre election results Trump told Flynn

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Speaker 1: to reach out to Russia. There's a problem with that.

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Speaker 1: The actual report is that President elect Trump and ABC News,

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Speaker 1: I should note, is issuing a correction now, President elect

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Speaker 1: Trump told General Flynn, who was the incoming national security adviser,

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Speaker 1: to reach out to Russia. That is not strange, It

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Speaker 1: is not weird. It is certainly not criminal. Why would

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Speaker 1: a major news organization get that wrong? Makes all the

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Speaker 1: difference in the world, doesn't it, right. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: the difference between Hey, did you did somebody give you

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Speaker 1: the the answers to the tests before you took it. No,

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Speaker 1: they let me check the results of the test after

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Speaker 1: with the answers. Let's like, did you cheat or did

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Speaker 1: you not cheat? That's a very that's a very important

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Speaker 1: timeline difference. But they got that wrong here. Oh what

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Speaker 1: a surprise. And as I've said to you, always remember

515
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Speaker 1: that they get it wrong in a way that is

516
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: negative for Trump. Every time. They never get it wrong

517
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Speaker 1: in Trump's favor. That tells you something, doesn't it. You

518
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Speaker 1: never hear Oh my gosh, that that really positive story

519
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: ran on Trump. It was totally wrong. Yeah. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: there's that. We have Bill in Virginia Online. Bill, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. What is up? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 1: I was just wondering, I mean, what what can we

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Speaker 1: we the people do to fight back against this? Oh? Man?

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Speaker 1: I uh, I wish I wish I had a neat

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00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: and clean and straightforward answer. You know, you just you

526
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: just gotta do what you can every day to live

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Speaker 1: with integrity and spread the truth and be honest and

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Speaker 1: be honorable and not let this get you down. Because

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Speaker 1: there's there's a major campaign right now to undo a

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Speaker 1: political movement in this country that I still believe. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I was not an early Trump adopter by any stretch,

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Speaker 1: and I had my misgivings, and I disagree with the

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00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: man on some things and all that, but I still

534
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: think there's so much good that can be done by

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Speaker 1: this administration and it's such a necessary corrective in so

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Speaker 1: many ways to the eight years of the Obama administration.

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Speaker 1: And yet here we are. Man, they they're they're literally

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Speaker 1: trying to there. It's not enough for them to focus

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Speaker 1: on the next election. They want to undo this past one.

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Speaker 1: And that's what this all comes down to. It's payback.

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Speaker 1: This is about payback for Hillary's loss. And and as

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Speaker 1: a as a citizen, as a good American, what can

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Speaker 1: you do? I don't know, trying to trying to just

544
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: not let it get you down, try to spread the truth.

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00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're protesting and all, and that's the

546
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: people are right, that gets conserved, the people of this country.

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Speaker 1: We have to work every day and I don't I'm

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Speaker 1: just I don't understand how this is going on. I've

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00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: got my TV on CNN right now. If you have

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00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: a thankfully, and it's shot Obama or something. And I

551
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: mean it's they are acting like it is. They're acting

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00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: like it is treating they're acting like treason has been

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Speaker 1: proven here. They're they're acting like something terrible has happened here,

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Speaker 1: And line do they thank thank you for calling in

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Speaker 1: Bill uh Lyne to the FBI. As I was saying,

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Speaker 1: you people agree to speak to the FBI because they

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Speaker 1: think that they haven't done anything wrong. If you're if

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Speaker 1: you if you're a criminal, if you've done something really bad,

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Speaker 1: Okay for those of you out there, you know, if

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Speaker 1: if if you've done something real bad, and you know

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Speaker 1: that if the FBI gets you, you're going to prison

562
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Speaker 1: for a long time, you don't want to speak to

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Speaker 1: the FBI. If you are a senior administration figure and

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Speaker 1: you're like, look, well what's the big deal? Yeah, then

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00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: you speak and then you speak the FBI. And people

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Speaker 1: will say, well, Buck, why would he lie? And I'd say,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he got embarrassed, because he thought it

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Speaker 1: looked bad, because he thought he could, you know, he

569
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Speaker 1: could get away with it keeping behind the only reason

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Speaker 1: we even know about all this is because somebody leaked

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Speaker 1: a conversation between Flynn and the ambassador, a deep state

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Speaker 1: element broke the law. Where's the prosecution for that felony? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: How's that leak investigation going? Oh? Nobody on that one? Yea.

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Speaker 1: You know it's amazing, you know, with Democrats, the laws

575
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Speaker 1: the law until it's not, and it changes day in

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Speaker 1: and day out. You know, I see stuff, I see stuff.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was reading the stories a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and you know, this isn't something that necessarily you would

579
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Speaker 1: think a conservative like me we get all fired up about.

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Speaker 1: But it really did. It really did make me angry.

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Speaker 1: And it's something I'll just share with you now. And

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Speaker 1: this is the difference between me and it leftist democrat

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Speaker 1: or or me and some of the progressive izing never

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Speaker 1: trumpers out there, who all of a sudden sound just

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Speaker 1: like democrats. There, I was a young man. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember where it was. I think it was down actually

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Speaker 1: in the neighbor you know, the roughly and the part

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Speaker 1: of the country Ryan right now, and he's an African

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00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: American man, I think maybe early twenties, and he requested

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Speaker 1: a lawyer and he said, he said, give me a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: dog and the district attorney and that they they continue

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Speaker 1: the questioning and did not bring him a lawyer, and

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Speaker 1: he made some statements that ended up being used against him,

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Speaker 1: and the district attorney was claiming that he didn't request

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Speaker 1: a lawyer because he said he wanted a lawyer. Dog. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm quite sure that that that that young man was

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Speaker 1: not requesting canine legal counsel and everybody knew that. Then

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00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: that's disingenuous, that's wrong, that's not ethical. Okay, what whether

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00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: the he was, He's entitled to due process. This is

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Speaker 1: an American citizen here in this country accused of a crime.

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Speaker 1: He's entitled to due process. And I'm a law in

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Speaker 1: or a kind of guy, but I don't want the

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00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 1: cops bending the rules, were breaking them to put somebody away,

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00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: because I got principles. With Democrats, there's no there's none

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Speaker 1: of this. They never have that moment. They go hold

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Speaker 1: on a second. Even if someone's guilty and we don't

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: like them, they deserve they're actually they deserve their due

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00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: process right. So they deserve to be treated fairly by

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Speaker 1: the system. Right, it's just all about the scoreboard in

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Speaker 1: this case, it's all about the anti Trump score. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't even get it, Okay, so Kate Steinley, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about this Kate Steinley's case.

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Speaker 1: I'm transitioning here quickly because we're gonna be getting into

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Speaker 1: this much more the next hour. When I was on

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Speaker 1: air with you last night, I said, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming he's gonna be guilty. I thought i'd be involuntary manslaughter.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Zerat, who was accused of of

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Speaker 1: being responsible for her death. I don't think that Zerat

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Speaker 1: necessarily tried to kill her in the sense that he

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Speaker 1: pointed a gun and said, I'm gonna shoot that woman.

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Speaker 1: But if he shot a gun that he was illegally

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Speaker 1: in possession hub he's responsible, as you know, for every

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Speaker 1: every round that leaves that firearm, legally or illegally owned,

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Speaker 1: he's responsible for what happens with it. And involuntary manslaughter

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Speaker 1: is exactly what we're talking about here. And somehow a

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Speaker 1: jury in Sanctuary City, left wing loon San Francisco did

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Speaker 1: not convict him and on any of the accounts having

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Speaker 1: to do with murder. It's an appalling miscarriacter justice. With

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Speaker 1: Kate Stanley. A lot of stuff here with immigration. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that coming up here in just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes day with you all right to talk with

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Speaker 1: us now about the Kate Steinley murder trial verdict. We

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Speaker 1: have attorney Emily Campanio on the line. Emily, good to

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Speaker 1: have you back, Thanks for joining us, Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for having me on tonight. But okay, so what happened here?

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Speaker 1: How is it possible that a guy I don't think

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Speaker 1: the facts of this were in dispute. Really there's a

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Speaker 1: guy who, uh, he's been deported five times now they

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Speaker 1: wanted to deport him again, which would be his sixth

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Speaker 1: I guess the sixth time is supposed to actually take Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's been deported five times. He has a he gets

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Speaker 1: a firearm. I think he stole it from a vehicle

643
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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. He fires it, it kills a woman

644
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Speaker 1: on a pier in her father's arms. Kate stein Ley.

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Speaker 1: He's charged with crimes, including involuntary manslaughter, and he's only

646
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Speaker 1: found guilty of a weapon's charge. How does this happen?

647
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this at its core is a

648
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Speaker 1: case of you can never predict what the jury is

649
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: going to return. And you and I have discussed so

650
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: many cases on this show where everyone is frankly shocked

651
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: at the verdict of that jury returns. But let's dig

652
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: a bit deeper for a second. So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with your um synopsis of the events,

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Speaker 1: but the two portrayals um presented to the jury or

655
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Speaker 1: basically one, he found the gun, you know, whether or

656
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: not he stole it himself from the car or he

657
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: claimed the defense claimed he found it under a bench

658
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: just prior to the shooting. Prosecution story was he stole

659
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Speaker 1: it himself and brought it to the pier, and then

660
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: he claims he accidentally shot it, it scared him and

661
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Speaker 1: therefore he tossed it into the bay and ran. Prosecution

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: the theory was he purposely shot it and upon seeing

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Speaker 1: Kate Stanley die, you know, get hit that he out

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Speaker 1: of fear through it in the water, and that points

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Speaker 1: to his grasp of the seriousness of it, and then

666
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: it ran away. But also here's here's the thing that

667
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: troubles me so much about this. Besides the obvious what

668
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: the jury returned is the fact that if you are

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Speaker 1: handling a weapon and it discharges and it kills someone,

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Speaker 1: that you are not legally culpable in any way For

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Speaker 1: the consequences. And that is what involuntary manslaughter is for.

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Speaker 1: That is what criminal negligence is for. If you drive

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Speaker 1: a vehicle drunk and you kill someone and you don't

674
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Speaker 1: mean to, you are accountable. If you handle a weapon,

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00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: a loaded gun, and it discharges whether or not you

676
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: meant to, and it kills someone, you are held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Now this is the same city, mind you, San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: that a jury found a woman who owned pitbulls who

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Speaker 1: killed a mulled and killed her neighbor. They found her

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Speaker 1: guilty of murder. Now, murder requires malice. So here we

681
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Speaker 1: have jurious that um convict someone of murder for owning

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Speaker 1: a dog that kills someone, and yet not even involuntary

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Speaker 1: manslaughter for a man who shoots a weapon, who nearly

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Speaker 1: even handled a loaded weapon on a tourist pier in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. To me, that is the worst travesty of all.

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Speaker 1: And I know that there was a there have been

687
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Speaker 1: a few cases, very high profile cases in San Francisco

688
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Speaker 1: where people were hold were held criminally liable for conduct

689
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Speaker 1: that was uh that was either that was reckless but

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Speaker 1: did not in any way have intent as part of

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Speaker 1: the the lethal action a dog owner. Right, there was

692
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Speaker 1: a dog owner in San Francisco in the same court.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think you tweeted about the family who

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Speaker 1: mauled and killed the neighbor. The dog owner was held

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Speaker 1: liable exactly. Yes, that's that's the case I just mentioned.

696
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Speaker 1: So this dog, a dog owner, um was held Liabel

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Speaker 1: was convicted for murder, meaning that she had to have

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Speaker 1: malice simply for owning pitbulls. That Maldon killed a woman.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't mean to say simply to

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Speaker 1: degrade that conviction, but what I cited to show the

701
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: inconsistency here and how atrocious in my opinion, it is

702
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Speaker 1: that we that that jury refused to hold accountable such

703
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: reckless behavior. And the whole issue here is that it

704
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: doesn't matter about intent, and that, frankly, is the biggest

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Speaker 1: problem I had with the chief public defender, Matt Gonzalez's

706
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Speaker 1: public comments after the verdict was read last night. He said, quote,

707
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Speaker 1: you know, it was simply an accident. And my point,

708
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: and the laws point, is that it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: just an accident, that there are laws that hold you accountable. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: that we as as I d acknowledge that things happen,

711
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: fatal accidents happened that you didn't mean. But if your

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00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: conduct was so reckless as to exhibit conscious disregard for

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Speaker 1: the safety of others, and by the way, that's a

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Speaker 1: reasonable person standard. So, for example, do you remember the

715
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Speaker 1: Oakland warehouse fires. That landlord, the manager of that warehouse

716
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Speaker 1: was charged with thirty seven counts of involuntary manslaughter, meaning

717
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Speaker 1: he managed a reckless or an environment that was you know, decrepit,

718
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Speaker 1: the wiring was faulty, and therefore we said as a society, look,

719
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Speaker 1: it was so reckless that a reasonable person would know

720
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Speaker 1: that it was just conscious disregard for human life, for safety.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's driving a vehicle wasted or drunk. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: So the whole point it goes back to it doesn't

723
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Speaker 1: matter about intent. You don't need intent for this subset

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Speaker 1: of the law. It's it's it's I am extremely upset

725
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: about this verdict, as you can tell. Yeah, you know,

726
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: we go back to, for example, in the discussion of

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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton email and classified protocol violations over the

728
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Speaker 1: course of a private email server, and and I kept

729
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Speaker 1: coming back to this discussion about how look in that case,

730
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Speaker 1: and I think you can also argue that once you

731
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Speaker 1: get beyond a certain number of violations, it feels like

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00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: that there isn't that that intent actually the case you

733
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: can make. But the standard, the statutory standard for Hillary's uh,

734
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: for Hillary's classified information handling was was either intent or

735
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: recklessness that it was actually in the statute, meaning that

736
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Speaker 1: if you were not being responsible as a person could

737
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Speaker 1: be expected to be under the circumstances, you could be

738
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: held cremly liable. Now, for political reasons, they chose not

739
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: to charge Hillary, But as far as I can tell,

740
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Speaker 1: here in San Francisco, if somebody's you know, walk because

741
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: it was illegal from to have the weapon, this wasn't

742
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: like he was at a shooting range and you know,

743
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: around skipped somewhere and this was a freak accident. Freak

744
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: accidents can happen at shooting ranges. But this was a

745
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: guy who was in criminal possession of the weapon, fired it,

746
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: and then somehow this jury finds him not guilty. I mean, Emily,

747
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: I know you weren't there, you weren't a part of

748
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: this case, but you are a lawyer. What do you

749
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: think the jury was thinking? How do how do they

750
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Speaker 1: come to this conclusion? It is so difficult to try

751
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: to surmise what is in their minds, Um, but to

752
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: respond to your to your two points there. First of all,

753
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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton email class affecting that's actually an excellent

754
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Speaker 1: analogy and here's why. Because the the um group of

755
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: statutes that apply to her situation incorporate a spectrum of intent.

756
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: So picture picture, um, someone who does something bad, right,

757
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: and there's a kind of commensurate mental state with each

758
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, you really want to hurt someone, you have

759
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: incredibly evil intent, Uh, you kind of don't care. Maybe

760
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: you you want to hurt them, or maybe you you

761
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: truly didn't mean anything by it, that you were just

762
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: very reckless with your actual behavior. You know, there's kind

763
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: of a spectrum there. And the whole point is that

764
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton with those classified statutes, there is a

765
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: commensurate charge with each level of intent. So if you

766
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: are simply if you have simply done it, but you

767
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: maintain and it's you and a reasonable person in your

768
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: applied a reasonable person standard agrees you know at all

769
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: the evidence points to the fact that you were simply

770
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: basically stupid with this, that you are still on the

771
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: hook and it's a general intent and you are still liable.

772
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Speaker 1: And that's again what involuntary manslaughter is. Now going back

773
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Speaker 1: to your question about the jury, I mean, it's it's

774
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: so difficult to surmise, but I go back to that

775
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: overhanging rubric of that they refused to hold him accountable.

776
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: And the other part that is totally nonsensical sensical to

777
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: me is that according to California law, involuntary manslaughter has

778
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Speaker 1: a portion that accounts for a death arising from an

779
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: underlying felony. And the fact that they convicted him then

780
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Speaker 1: of that, as you pointed out, felony possession of a weapon,

781
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: well a death, a death occurred stemming from that felony.

782
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Speaker 1: So how then can you not logically correlate that that's

783
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Speaker 1: involuntary nance laughter. So to me, that was a complete

784
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: legal failure right there as well. That's that I had

785
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: no idea how that is explained away. Of course, speaking

786
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: of attorney Emily Campanio, she's a legal analyst. Emily. The

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Speaker 1: UH Justice Department, as I understand it, has a warrant

788
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: out for Zarante's arrest. They're saying that they may they're considering, well,

789
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: they're going to deport him. But there's also the possible

790
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: consideration of some federal charges that would be added on here.

791
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: What could we what could we see? Is this just

792
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: a continuation of the deportation process or are they going

793
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: to look for like a you know, deprivation of civil

794
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: rights charge or something? And how could the federal government

795
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: get involved after this verdict comes down? Right, it pretty

796
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: much pertains everything would pertain to the deportation status or

797
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: that the weapons charge. Now, just for our listeners to

798
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: be clear, the reason why and this is this is basic,

799
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: but you know, let's let's work from the ground up.

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Speaker 1: The reason why the FED can't come in and and

801
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: prosecute them and take over and say, look, state, you failed,

802
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: so we're going to hold them accountable it is because

803
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: they didn't have jurisdiction. So so approaching this situation, the

804
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: murder is off the table, unfortunately. So all that the

805
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: FED can do is prosecute him with charges related to UM.

806
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Speaker 1: You know, yes, felony possession of the weapon, UH, felony

807
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: re entry after deportation, that's another charge. UH charges felony

808
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: charges relating to his UM his basically kind of parole situation. Note, however,

809
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Speaker 1: that a weapons charge could bring up to ten years incarceration.

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Speaker 1: So this could be a situation where and we've seen

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Speaker 1: it in a lot of high profile cases where, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a clear guilty person or a clear responsible person,

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00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: Let's say, is get you know, released of all culpability

814
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Speaker 1: by a jury and then they get on the hook

815
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: later on for something small and then we see the

816
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: whole book thrown at them for a penalty. And an

817
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: example would be you know the O j situation obviously,

818
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Speaker 1: where he they eventually got him on the hook for

819
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Speaker 1: robbery and then all of a sudden he spent years

820
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: and years in jail. But then that begs the larger

821
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: question to me, And I know you're interested in this

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Speaker 1: two buck of well, how how much more money are

823
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: we going to spend on this illegal immigrant murderer? Do

824
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: we want that? Do we want our tax dollars to

825
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: pay for trials and then to pay for his incarceration?

826
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Speaker 1: I don't, but we certainly want to see him serve

827
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Speaker 1: time for his heinous crime, the fact that he murdered someone.

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Speaker 1: So I also think you know, there's prosecutorial discussion, of course,

829
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Speaker 1: but that goes into it too. Um, And I personally,

830
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Speaker 1: I would love to see a prosecution for him and

831
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: then a penalty, just a maximum penalty. And I think

832
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: the most disheartening thing would be to see more tax

833
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: dollars spent on trying this individual to only have him serve,

834
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Speaker 1: you know, almost next to nothing. I just it seems

835
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Speaker 1: to me that you know, what's what's the worst punishment

836
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: we could let you do you recall back in the

837
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Speaker 1: in the in the days of the Trayvon Martin case,

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Speaker 1: if I were they were uh Eric holders d J,

839
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Speaker 1: they were gonna try to bring some some kind of

840
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Speaker 1: federal charge of do you know, it was like a

841
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: civil rights violation though, and that do you remember I'm

842
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: talking about? So I was wondering if they, uh, if

843
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: they would try something similar here, although they won't, but

844
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I guess they could. But there I I don't like

845
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: the whole double jeopardy aspect of some of this sometimes,

846
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: So that's a whole separate discussion. But yeah, as to

847
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the federal the actual federal charges here of being in

848
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: the country illegally, he's been here. This would be the

849
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: sixth time he's deported. How can anyone have any faith

850
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Speaker 1: emily in the immigrations and customs enforcement system we have

851
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: in place when Zaranti, who I'm assuming is not some

852
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: criminal mastermind, has been kicked out of the country five times,

853
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Speaker 1: which is quite a feat because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: manage to stay here for a long time illegally. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and now he's gonna get sent back. I wouldn't be

856
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Speaker 1: surprised if this guy turns back up in the US

857
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Speaker 1: in a few years. I really wouldn't. I know, I agree,

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh, it's just it's so troublesome. And to

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Speaker 1: respond to your question, I mean, I don't know. I

860
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Speaker 1: think frankly, a lot of us have have lost faith

861
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Speaker 1: in many arenas of the criminal justice and border protection

862
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Speaker 1: system right now. And I don't want to in any

863
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Speaker 1: way to me, all of those putting, you know, those

864
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Speaker 1: brave men and women putting their lives on the line

865
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Speaker 1: every day for our border security. But if this guy

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Speaker 1: keeps getting through and he's basically, you know, a low

867
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Speaker 1: level his prior convictions were for drugs. As again, Chief

868
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Speaker 1: Public Defender mag Gonzalez commented on he doesn't know Kate finally,

869
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Speaker 1: which to me was another ridiculous point to make. It

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have has nothing to do with that, um,

871
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, and I think the biggest

872
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: failure to me is that sanctuary city policy. Let's go

873
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Speaker 1: back to the reason that he was walking free anyway,

874
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: you know, not only because he was back in the

875
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Speaker 1: country again for the fifth time, but because the sheriff's

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Speaker 1: department refused to communicate with the federal government or a

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Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies to let them know that this guy

878
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: was rocking free. So, in my opinion, the city of

879
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco in the state of California have literally gotten

880
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: away with murder. That's what sanctuary cities do. They got

881
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: away with murder last night. That is the most troublesome

882
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: thing to me. I mean, it's absolutely it's It's totally ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Emily Campanio is a legal analyst. You can follow her

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Speaker 1: at Emily Campanio dot com and on Twitter. CEO m

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Speaker 1: P g n O Emily, thank you so much, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Have a great night you too. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just what I was kind of quasi mumbling about there.

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Speaker 1: For second, guys, Eric Holder was, in fact, after the

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin case, thinking about bringing civil rights charges against

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Speaker 1: Zimmerman and and on his way out from being Attorney General.

891
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Eric Holder is actually saying they need to make the

892
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: law different so that it would be easier even after

893
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Speaker 1: somebody is not found guilty in a criminal trial for

894
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Speaker 1: a murder, um, it would be he wanted it to

895
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Speaker 1: be easier to bring a federal civil rights case against

896
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: that person um because if there was a racial angle,

897
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: which clearly that would be a whole You know, I

898
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's that's not a charge that the Trump

899
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: administration has leveled here, but that there are ways that

900
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Speaker 1: the federal government tries to, in a sense, retry people

901
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: for different things. All right, Um, why did this happen

902
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: in San Francisco? What does it say about our immigration system?

903
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about that right after

904
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Speaker 1: this break. Stay with me. Well, I was deeply disappointed

905
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Speaker 1: in the verdict, but I do respect the jury system.

906
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: They probably had a difficult time establishing intent. The fact

907
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Speaker 1: that the Justice Department is now looking at whether it

908
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Speaker 1: has options is um is worthy of our consideration. You know,

909
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: we are a compassionate country, but if someone continues to

910
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: commit crimes in this country, they don't have a right

911
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: to stay in this country. And this gentleman was convicted

912
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: five times of manufacturing drugs and possession of drugs in

913
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Speaker 1: addition to having come back into the country four or

914
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Speaker 1: five times. He shouldn't be here. That's a key point

915
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: that's coming from a Democrat out in California. Jackie spied.

916
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been here in the first place. What

917
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: does it say? What does it say about our ability

918
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: to control our border that people who are deported not once,

919
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: not twice, not three, not four, but five times can

920
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: still get back into the country. I don't think Zarante

921
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: had night vision goggles and advanced tactical training to get

922
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Speaker 1: around border patrol. Okay. I think it was probably a

923
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward process. And the city of San Francisco, look,

924
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: it has blood on its on its hands here, There's

925
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: no question about it. Kate Steinley is dead because San

926
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Speaker 1: Francisco thinks that federal law should not apply, that federal

927
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: law doesn't matter, and that if you can get into

928
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: if you break the law to come into the country,

929
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: you should be allowed to stay, and every effort should

930
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: be expended on your behalf to allow you to stay.

931
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: It is a very troubling but unfortunately very widespread mentality

932
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Speaker 1: in this country, particularly in Democrat urban strongholds places like

933
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Speaker 1: New York where I'm from, obviously San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago,

934
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Speaker 1: and it is one area that the Trump administration is

935
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Speaker 1: going to have to really dig into in the next year.

936
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Speaker 1: If it's gonna make any headway before well, we it

937
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: might already be too late, because I think the midterms

938
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: are gonna take up so much of the attention on well,

939
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: attention from what's going on on Capitol Hill. But why

940
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Speaker 1: would the jury not find involuntary manslaughter here? There's a

941
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of reasons people could put out there that they

942
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: shouldn't have charged first degree murderer, pre meditated murder here. Yeah,

943
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: I think that they I think they overcharged. Um. I'm

944
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Speaker 1: not closely familiar with all the aspects of the case.

945
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: The transcripts he was interrogated by police for I think

946
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Speaker 1: four hours, but I've read the excerpts of it, and

947
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm familiar enough with what happened here. I don't think

948
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Speaker 1: that anybody believed that this was a a premeditated assassination

949
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Speaker 1: of a woman that this illegal alien had never met before.

950
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: But he's responsible for it, and he was committing a

951
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Speaker 1: crime when his irresponsible act occurred. So why would a

952
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Speaker 1: jury in San Francisco not convince. Here's what I think.

953
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: Here's the bottom line on this. They have been so

954
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Speaker 1: programmed to have the deepest sympathy, more sympathy for an

955
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: illegal alien than for a fellow American. That's what the

956
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: jury in San Francisco. I think it really, that's what

957
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: it turned on. They've been propagandized to so much by

958
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Speaker 1: the media and the Democrat Party that illegal aliens are

959
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: a a class of people in this country who deserve

960
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: additional and special protection. And this was an opportunity for

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, for at least twelve San Franciscan's to say,

962
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: you know what, we are willing to support sanctuary city status,

963
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Speaker 1: even what it means that it's going to kill fellow Americans.

964
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Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. With this verdict. We'll be back,

965
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: all right. See now we can get into a bit

966
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Speaker 1: more of a freestyle Friday mode. I know it's it's

967
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: been Look, we've had important news to cover so far

968
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Speaker 1: on the show, and I haven't even had a chance.

969
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: He had to tell you how jealous I am that

970
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: Ms Molly was able to eat some Beignet's at Cafe

971
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Speaker 1: du Mont and I had to just watch as she

972
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Speaker 1: enjoyed the sugar covered Beignet's down here in nowhere, Lens.

973
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying it right. Someone from someone from

974
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: New Orleans needs are writing and tell me if I'm

975
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: if I'm close, I've heard it. Well, I'm gonna get

976
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: better at it over the next few days, that much,

977
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: I promise. I did learn over the course of the

978
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: show that it is in fact Oregon, Unlike many of

979
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: my New York City come fellow urban dwellers who say,

980
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: O agnd, there's a lot of that that goes on.

981
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Oh and it's action movie quote Friday, so let's do it.

982
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: Hit it action the marine calls like a day on

983
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Speaker 1: the Fall meals a backway full Mason of Parade. I

984
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Speaker 1: love the call movie. What's got your pushing? Committed pencils quote?

985
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Speaker 1: You know what old Jack Burton always says at a

986
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Speaker 1: time like this, Jack Burton me Fridays, thanks for the advice.

987
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: Action movie quote Fridays. Yes, indeed, eight four four n

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Speaker 1: eight to five action movie quote. Friday finished watching Narcos

989
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: season three recently, and it is phenomenal. I was surprised

990
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: that without the storyline of Pablo Escobar, which is one

991
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: of the great true crime stories of the nineties. I mean,

992
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: I think that you have to put the O. J.

993
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: Simpson tron all that is probably the number one spot

994
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: from the nineties, but I think Pablo Escobar comes up

995
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: at the number the number two spot for just the

996
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: most incredible story. And and uh, Narco season three looks

997
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: at the colleague cartel and does a very very good job.

998
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: I have to say so. Action movie quote Friday got

999
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: me thinking about that. Oh one other thing that's gotten

1000
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle other than our action movie quotes

1001
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: that we can discuss here on the show. And my

1002
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: culinary experiences down here in Louisiana. Louisiana. I'm getting better

1003
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: at that too. Uh. The GOP says it has enough

1004
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: votes to pass the Senate tax bill. M look at that, well,

1005
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: would you look? Come out the coast, have a few laughs.

1006
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Here we are. After all the back and forth. You

1007
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: got Maine Senator Susan Collins saying that she will in

1008
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: fact support it. And rich McConnell's farm, who will He's

1009
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna get the votes? Richard McConnell's Garthlin's throne. We're awtho.

1010
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Speaker 1: So I think he's going to manage the you know

1011
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: good was passed so close to Gurgan, but a little

1012
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: different from Gergon, the Mitch McConnell big hitter, the Mitch

1013
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: McConnell um. The latest here is that looks like they

1014
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: have the vote. They're probably gonna get this through. And

1015
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal is super excited about this. I have

1016
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Speaker 1: to love there's definitely a wing of the Republican Party

1017
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: and and a wing of conservatism that gets more excited

1018
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: about tax cuts than anything else. And because it's a Friday,

1019
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm not gonna uh, I'm not

1020
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Speaker 1: gonna be a downer and tell everybody that tax cuts

1021
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: without decreases in spending is a problem, because you know what,

1022
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: let's listen, let's just enjoy our tax cut what we can.

1023
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Speaker 1: I've I've given you my whole case for skepticism, and

1024
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Speaker 1: many of you remain completely unmoved by my skepticism, and

1025
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: so that's fine. We will we will see how all

1026
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: this goes. I also would note now and we should

1027
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: probably excerpt this segment of the show for quick access

1028
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: later on, there will be, over the course of Trump's

1029
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: first term a major correction of the stock market. There

1030
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: will be a a major economic downturn overall. I'm not

1031
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: saying a depression or even a great recession, but there's

1032
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna be some kind of readjustment in our economic fortunes

1033
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: in this country. And they are gonna blame it all,

1034
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: all of it on Trump. Right. They're gonna act like

1035
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: the twenty too soon to be twenty one trillion dollars

1036
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: of debt was all accumulated because of the sale of

1037
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: of Maga hats or something. It will all be on Trump.

1038
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Just be prepared for that. Um. But Yeah, they say,

1039
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: they say they have the votes, they say they can

1040
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Speaker 1: do it. Um. I'm trying to see, trying to see

1041
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: where the uh what do we tyrone? Do we know

1042
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: when the vote is gonna happen. I'm trying to find

1043
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: that here. Not yet they've been telling Yeah, they're talking

1044
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: about a lot of talking down there on Capitol Hill.

1045
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: By the way, do you agree with me that in

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Speaker 1: terms of criminal criminal stories from the ninety nineties criminal

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Speaker 1: justice cases o J number one, Pablo Escobar number two,

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Speaker 1: or do you think Pablo gets the number one spot? No, No,

1049
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think the one untold story

1050
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Speaker 1: that I think they have to dig into. Is that

1051
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Griselle de Blanco who was known as the Black Widow

1052
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: who actually put Pablo Escobar in business. She was big

1053
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Speaker 1: in the eighties but got arrested in the nineties, and

1054
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Speaker 1: she was part of that cocaine cowboy wars. I think

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Speaker 1: her stories would be a big one if if it

1056
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Speaker 1: was told properly. Anybody who's listening who has not seen it,

1057
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Speaker 1: The documentary Cocaine Cowboys is incredible. It moves very quickly,

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Speaker 1: it's very good. And Griselda Blanco is according to one

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Speaker 1: of the I think he's a Miami Dad police officer,

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Speaker 1: but a law enforcement officer. If she was, she ended

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Speaker 1: up being I think they assassinated. She was assassinated on

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Speaker 1: the streets of Columbia. Someone and like on a motorcycle

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Speaker 1: with a newsy came by and you know, for past

1064
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: transgressions or whatever took her out. But they think she

1065
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: may have been the most prolific, uh, drug kingpin murderer

1066
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: in the history of the United States, responsible personally for

1067
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: ordering dozens of lethal hits, dozens of murders, perhaps even

1068
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: upwards of like three digits. I mean, it's really it's uh,

1069
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: it's it's grizzly stuff when you when you hear the stories.

1070
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, Grisel, I think there. I heard they're

1071
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: making a movie about her. By the way, they may

1072
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: be they are j low is going to Player, No way,

1073
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: jl is going to player. Oh my gosh, I did

1074
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: not know that. That's Mrs Molly likes j Loo. I'm

1075
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: not a j Lo person, so I asked Moll. I

1076
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: asked Molly today. I said, if we could hang out

1077
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: with with Beyonce or Taylor Swift right now, who's And

1078
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: she's like, don't make me, don't make me choose. It's like, okay,

1079
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: but she also likes Jennifer Lopez. We've got some calls

1080
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: here on the on the lines. Let's get into someone.

1081
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: We've got Donnie from Virginia. Hey, Donny, what's up? Hey?

1082
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm all right, Johnny, thanks for calling in.

1083
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: Um okay, first quote, it messed up just this much.

1084
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: I'll put a bullet in your head. And I got

1085
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: another quote for you if you want one more, all

1086
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: right to pass on this one hit the buzzer. I

1087
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: don't know that. What is that? It's from Point of

1088
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: No Return with Bridget Fonda Okay, I've seen that. I'm

1089
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: not gonna say that's not ah, that's not a sort

1090
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: of a timeless action movie quote. But legit, I'll let it.

1091
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: I'll let it pass. Alright. One would have been better

1092
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: where she says I never did mind the little things

1093
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: there that I would have gotten, or when she talked

1094
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: about how Nina Simone was what her mom made her

1095
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: listen to and so she loves this on ninus one,

1096
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: I know the movie pretty well. Gabriel Burns actually pretty

1097
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: solid in it too. Yeah, good movie, great movie, al right,

1098
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: And what's your next one? Give me another one? Uh well, no,

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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: that was it. They would from the same movie in

1100
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: case the one Coote was a little too all right,

1101
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: it's all right, we'll we'll take it. I'm a good

1102
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm in a good movie today, Donnie. So we'll uh wave,

1103
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: we'll wave this one home by the way. I gat Oh,

1104
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: thank you, sir, Thank you very much. Donny Shield Tai man,

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01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Bill in Mississippi w j d X.

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: Hey Bill your next door? What's up, my man? She'll side,

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01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: Uh wait, I need I need to ask you an

1108
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: important question. Bill. What does Mississippi have on Louisiana. Like

1109
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: if if we're if we're lining them up one against

1110
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: the other, what what does Mississippi have Louisiana doesn't like?

1111
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: Where where do you guy? You guys must have some

1112
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: rivalry down here? Come on, uh well here you know

1113
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: the old mission last sheet thing, big rovalery. I went

1114
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: to southern miss so that's not as big of a

1115
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: deal with me. But I'm gonna sit here and talk

1116
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: trash man Louisiana. I've been to the state countless times,

1117
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: and I love being there. I love look at this

1118
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: for fraternity and brotherhood and love between Louisiana Mississippi. See,

1119
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: I know, if I get a Texas caller and then

1120
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma caller, I can just I can start all

1121
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: kinds of nonsense there, you know. Yeah, don't get me

1122
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: started on Alabama though. Okay, see there we go. Now,

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: I was wondering where the you know, where the rivalry was.

1124
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: It's not with Louisiana. You love Louisiana. It's Alabama that

1125
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: you've got issues with. Fair enough, man, So what else

1126
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: is on your mind? I let's start off with a quote. Okay,

1127
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: all right, it's uh, are you boys gonna draw those

1128
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: pistols or you're just gonna stand there whistling Dixie. Um

1129
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: is that? Uh? Wait, hold on, hold, it's the It's

1130
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: the Kurt Russell. Uh, you know, Wider movie, which I love.

1131
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: But I'm blanking on the name right now, which is

1132
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: crazy because I've seen it a million times. Your Tombstone, Yeah, no,

1133
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: it is not that it is not out long Jersie Wales.

1134
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: Umdg it. You guys know that I'm weak. I'm weak

1135
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: on the Westerns. This is now my secrets out. I'm

1136
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: not good on the Westerns. But yeah, that's one you

1137
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: need to see. I think that's one of the Eastwood

1138
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: is that I was gonna say, Is that the best

1139
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: Western with Eastwood starring? Uh? From my taste, yes, you know.

1140
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: I think Letters Letters from Me with Jima is a

1141
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: is an underrated movie, and I thought it was very strong.

1142
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: Uh what was it? Flags with my Father's Yeah, both

1143
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: of them. Flags are followers and Letters from Me with GiMA.

1144
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: I feel like they're underrated movies. I think that they

1145
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: belong at that in that top tier of of World

1146
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: War Two epics. Uh. And I feel like they don't

1147
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: don't feel like he doesn't get his due with those movies. Yeah,

1148
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: I agree. Also, while you're in Nwuance, you're looking for

1149
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: fruit suggestions, Yeah, I apologize for them. In the background,

1150
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: there's a place called Central Grocery. It's for the muffle

1151
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: out of sandwich was finished. You've got to go by

1152
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: Central Grocery if you're by yourself. Don't order a hole

1153
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: and you'll never finish it. Just get a half or

1154
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: a quarter and uh it's best famish in America. I

1155
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: will check it out. Thank you, my friend Shields. Hi,

1156
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: I have a great weekend. Bill, appreciate it. I hope

1157
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: you have a good time. To other Mississippi. That was

1158
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: so nice. He's like, I'm not gonna talk any smack

1159
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: about Louisiana as a Mississippian. I love Louisiana. It's Alabama. Now.

1160
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if any Alabama callers I want to

1161
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: take issue with that. I just want to. I just

1162
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: want to instigate the states to which I mean. This

1163
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: is like, I can't help myself if someone if someone

1164
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: bates me with, you know, with a New Jersey comment,

1165
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start saying some stuff. Even though I love

1166
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: New Jersey and many of my best friends live in

1167
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey. But I can't help it. You know, it's

1168
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: a New York thing. It's just your You're trained, your

1169
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: conditioned to have certain states. You know, people are talking

1170
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: about Connecticut. I'm like, man, that's fine. I have no

1171
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: I got no beef with Connecticut. But Jersey as a

1172
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: New Yorker, and I always wonder what the state right

1173
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the Texas uh Texas Oklahoma state rivalry is

1174
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: is incredible. Um, so there's that. Uh Stephen in Ohio.

1175
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: Listen on the Blaze radio app. Hey Steve, Hey Buck,

1176
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: how are you man? I've been listening to you since

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: the very first Saturday shows. Wow O s s. Good

1178
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: to have you, sir. Oh yeah, I'm I'm part of

1179
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: the team Buck original got I wore out my Comy

1180
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: Bear T shirt. Tell you what, ums, I've just been

1181
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: so I'm glad to see your career take off. Thank you. Sure,

1182
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying fighting. Yeah. So, I I got to New

1183
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: Orleans quite a bit, and our church has been going

1184
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: down there since the year after Katrina. And I want

1185
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: to tell you a place to try if you can.

1186
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: They're not they're only open for lunch. A little place

1187
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: called Cafe Reconcile all right, it's over towards the ninth ward.

1188
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's uh, you know in an area

1189
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: of town that really got hit hard by Katrina. Um,

1190
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: they're still rebuilding. I mean that church goes down there

1191
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: and helps some rebuild still to this day. But Cafe

1192
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: Reconcile actually brings people off the street and says, you know,

1193
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: you want to stop committing crime, you want to get

1194
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: out of your you know you're headed to prison, Let's

1195
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: get you trained. They give them an eleven week course.

1196
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: They do awesome work about you know, interpersonal skills and

1197
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: just getting people uh trained up to be in the

1198
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: restaurant business, and then helps them find jobs when they're

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: done with the training. Well, it sounds like a great

1200
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: a great program and a great place. I will tell

1201
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: Miss ms. As soon as I tell Miss Molly, she's

1202
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: gonna want to go there, and then she's gonna want

1203
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: to go and visit and and try to get involved

1204
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: with whatever the local uh. You know, she likes all

1205
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: the all the the the helpful outreach options that one has.

1206
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: She'll want I'll probably volunteer, want to volunteer at Cafe Reconcile,

1207
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: and then also at the local a s p c

1208
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: A too. She likes to help people, she likes to

1209
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: help animals. UM. Anyway, thank you very much for that

1210
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: that recommendation. I'll go down there and check it out.

1211
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: Sounds like they're doing great work, and the food here

1212
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: is amazing. I am blown away by how good the

1213
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: food has been so far. Though, I'm gonna come back

1214
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: to New York a little chubb here. Anyway, we've got

1215
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: more stay with me, team. As a quick aside here, team,

1216
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: I see that a former NSA employee has pled guilty.

1217
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: Pleaded guilty, Come on, pleaded. I was never a lawyer,

1218
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: um pleaded guilty to taking classified information. Just I bring

1219
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: it up because that's a crime for some people, non

1220
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: for Hillary. But it wasn't Mark classified. No, it was

1221
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: actually Hillary in some cases mark classified. But right, I

1222
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: can't see unless it's the check for a speaking engagement,

1223
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: and then I can see all the zeros. A. Yeah,

1224
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: some people go to prison. Hillary gets almost handed the presidency.

1225
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: That's the way that that's the way that that whole

1226
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: thing works with classified anyway, it's I should know. There's

1227
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: also a lot of backtracking. UM. So that's just putting

1228
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: that out there about the Uh it's a New York

1229
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: Times story. So this guy, this guy is gonna go

1230
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: to prison for a few years. But Hillary, you know,

1231
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: didn't even get charged. Didn't even get charged. Everybody, it's

1232
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: not even like she beat the rap. They didn't even

1233
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even make her go through the process. Uh.

1234
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: I'm also seeing a lot of people realizing that they

1235
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: really don't have as much on Trump. A lot a

1236
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: lot of journalists that were all this morning, Yeah, they've

1237
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: got him, They've got Trump. Uh No, they really don't

1238
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: at all. And and this Mueller thing, there's only one

1239
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: way that it ends where it doesn't look utterly, utterly

1240
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: pathetic and and just like a complete political hit, which

1241
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: I think is what it is. And that's if at

1242
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: the very end of this Mueller turns, you know, turns

1243
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: around the American people, holds a press conference. He says,

1244
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: I charged for everything I possibly could everybody. I left

1245
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: no stone unturned. I did not give anybody a get

1246
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: out of jail free card. Anybody who violated the law

1247
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: in even the slightest degree has been brought to account

1248
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: for it. There was no collusion. Trump administration did nothing wrong.

1249
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: We need to move on. That is possible here. I'm

1250
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: not saying that's likely. I think that's very unlikely, but

1251
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: that is possible as one explanation for how this all ends.

1252
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: I would still feel like these process crimes that they

1253
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: have charged for for Flynn and for others are are

1254
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: mickey mouse. But nonetheless, there is a scenario here where

1255
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:29,879
Speaker 1: the strict uh javert like prosecutorial zeal as lame is reference.

1256
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 1: For those of you who are uh monsieur vl jean

1257
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: remember all that. Yeah, he's the power mad prosecutor who

1258
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: won't let the guy who stole some bread or whatever

1259
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: to feed somebody, won't let him go. Oh man, I

1260
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: kept talking and even get into what I want to

1261
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: talk about next. Uh Anyway, that's just my sense on that. Oh.

1262
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 1: The other thing is the Logan Act, which I'm seeing

1263
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: now is also creating a lot of memes on Twitter

1264
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: and Facebook about Wolverine and how he has violated the

1265
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: Logan Act. If they really think that they're going to

1266
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: get conspiracy to that the Trump administration is gonna be

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Speaker 1: brought down by conspiracy to violate a statute that has

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Speaker 1: never once been charged in its existence, because it's almost

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Speaker 1: certainly unconstitutionally vague. This whole thing is pathetic, and I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to think that maybe that's it. Maybe the charge,

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Speaker 1: the underlying charges conspiracy to violate the Logan Act, which

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Speaker 1: would be laughable but also pretty shocking in its stupidity.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. Oh, let's talk about Matt Lauer and

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Speaker 1: sexual harassment coming up here, our three stay with me.

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Speaker 1: It's been two years since you've been here, has it?

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01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: It has been marched, It's been hard, It's been hard.

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Speaker 1: It's the major thing that's changed since you were here

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Speaker 1: last Yes, I have no seen you naked, and I'm

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Speaker 1: so sorry about that. Were you able to sleep afterwards?

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Speaker 1: Why are you looking down? It's now my screen saver

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Speaker 1: at the way, good morning, Nice to see you, and

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of you. I'd be happy to

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Speaker 1: stay home, but the film. Let's just get it out

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: of the way. Helen wardrobe malfunction the other night. What's

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: the lesson learned from something like that? Other than that

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01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: you keep smiling, which you always do well. It was

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Speaker 1: obviously an unfortunate incident. So um, so let's start. So

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Speaker 1: let's effectively creative question I have ever heard, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take it there. You have Matt Lauer, formerly NBC's

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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar a year, man who seems to

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Speaker 1: excel at trying to verbally undress people who are on

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Speaker 1: his show. Such a creep stir it is. It is

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Speaker 1: astonishing as we sit here and finally take stock of

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: how much, well I was gonna say, how much evidence

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Speaker 1: there was that Lauer was engaging this kind of behavior,

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Speaker 1: but even beyond that that, this is somebody who was

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Speaker 1: held up for the rest of the country in the

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Speaker 1: way that he was given the incredibly rarefied perch that

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Speaker 1: he occupied with tremendous access and influence and and mountains

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Speaker 1: of cash. Says a lot about our news industry, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: I've said you before that the swamp that has been

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Speaker 1: cleaned out this year, or is in the process of

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: getting cleaned out, has been much more so the media

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Speaker 1: than politics, and I have to say I think that

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Speaker 1: is most certainly true early on when the first major

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Speaker 1: sexual harassment stories we're breaking in Hollywood, the biggest one,

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Speaker 1: or that the one that broke the damn was the

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Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein story. But I told you that in the

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Speaker 1: news business it was just as bad in terms of

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Speaker 1: the power dynamic and the amount of exploitation that goes

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Speaker 1: on that we would find out many of these stories,

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: and we certainly have, in fact, if one was so curious.

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 1: I don't keep track of every specific statement, every utterance

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Speaker 1: that I make on this show, because you know, I

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01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 1: got other things to do down here in New Orleans

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01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: with Miss Molly having a lovely time. I can't catalog

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Speaker 1: my every word after the show. But I kept telling you, Oh,

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Speaker 1: in the news business, there's gonna be more trust me

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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 1: and I based on rumor, and I can say that

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Speaker 1: some of the rumors I've heard have already been proven

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Speaker 1: true about different individuals based on rumor, and there are

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: some other names leftist Democrat names that may see the

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Speaker 1: light of day when it comes to sexual harassment and

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Speaker 1: sexual abuse. But also I just have always resented the

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Speaker 1: way that certain personalities and really certain concepts of how

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Speaker 1: people should be forced or or how people are allowed

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Speaker 1: to present themselves on TV. As you know, great guys

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 1: always brand is. You know, he's just the real journalist.

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: He's the real deal. And many of us sit around

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Speaker 1: saying it's just a phony. Guy's just a phony. And

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Speaker 1: with Louer, think about what he was doing and then

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Speaker 1: what he was presenting on air, it's it was just

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Speaker 1: all an act He's an actor. What you see here

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01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: is that Hollywood and the TV news business are just

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Speaker 1: extensions of one another, largely the same. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: would argue that in many cases, TV journalists don't even

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Speaker 1: have the specific skills of actors, or or don't have

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Speaker 1: quite the having attained quite the level in their craft

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: as some of the more talented actors have. So it

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Speaker 1: is pretty pretty amazing to see how now the information

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: has finally come out. Now we're all seeing just how

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01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: bad lours behavior was this whole time. And I am

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01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: am pleased to say that he's such a creep, and

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01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: he's such a such a clear transgressor, and it's not

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Speaker 1: representative of the way that people are in this country,

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01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: you know. The one thing that has even though he's

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Speaker 1: got this elevated position and he's being treated like some

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Speaker 1: kind of TV royalty. You know, I'm down here, as

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01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: I said in New Orleans, and one thing that really

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01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: strikes me right away, because I'm just I'm somebody. When

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Speaker 1: I'm in a new place, I really like to talk

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: to everybody who is Yeah, I like to talk to

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Speaker 1: everybody who's local and try to pick up whatever information

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Speaker 1: I can. And so I've been speaking to as many

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Speaker 1: uh oh gosh, I'm I just realized, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: sure I know what the term is New Orleans, um

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Speaker 1: New orleans Ians as I can. And I'm struck. And

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Speaker 1: Molly's feels the same way. We're struck by just how

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Speaker 1: considerate and polite everybody is. And you get the sense

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: that so many of these strangers that I approach and

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: want to have a just a chat with about you know,

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Speaker 1: where's the best place for me to get miss Molly

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01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: a an alligator hamburger because I'm trying to make her

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01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: eat that she won't but you know, whatever the question

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01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: may be. And you get a lot of people around

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01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: here who take a real interest and want to be helpful.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that it's astonishing how many people

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Speaker 1: there are in this country who attained tremendous prominence in

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Speaker 1: our politics and in media, who aren't even at the

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Speaker 1: level of just the you know, the random folks that

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to walking walking around Jackson Square here in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know, who aren't aren't even as as ethical,

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Speaker 1: as as certainly not as friendly but not as not

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Speaker 1: as decent, not as honorable. There's something in our system

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that's maybe in the long term,

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01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: one of the benefits of what we're seeing happening here

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Speaker 1: with all this, all these purges, these sexual harassment purges,

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Speaker 1: is that somehow the psychopathic figures or maybe psychopathic is

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Speaker 1: too strong sociopathic. There we go buck psychopathics a little

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Speaker 1: next level, although there are some characteristics of psychopathy that

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Speaker 1: are as that have been exhibited by some of these

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Speaker 1: sexual harassers, for sure. But the sociopaths become so powerful

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Speaker 1: and so heralded, and we're all supposed to think that

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: they're just great, and they're not. And I think there's

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Speaker 1: an awakening happening right now in this country about that.

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01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: I think that folks now are seeing that so many

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Speaker 1: of those that are forced it upon us with greatness

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Speaker 1: that is comp lately inexplicable and indecipherable. Why is this

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Speaker 1: person so highly paid, so prominent, so powerful? And you

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: see it, And the answer is, in many cases luck

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Speaker 1: and twenty a complete and utter lack of scruples, dignity, honor, integrity,

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Speaker 1: you name it. And I would like us to change

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Speaker 1: that system. I would like. I would like more people

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01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: to rise in politics and in media who give me

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01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: the same feeling of you know, warmth and candor and

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01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: friendliness that you'll get from people that are just normal Americans,

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: you know, just just decent people. I know it sounds

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Speaker 1: like I'm doing a Christmas special here or something, but

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Speaker 1: that's how I feel. It's just amazing. Matt Lower what Creed?

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll be back. I'm gonna talking about some

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Speaker 1: books this hour because you guys ask me with that

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Speaker 1: a lot. Stay with me. It's time for some Team

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Speaker 1: Buck books. This is a maybe not a segment we'll

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Speaker 1: do all the time, but I occasionally get requests from

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01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: you about just book recommendations because I like to read

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01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: a lot. MS Molly makes fun of me because I

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01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: will take any opportunity to look at my kindle app

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01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 1: on my iPhone and try and just knock some pages

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01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: out whenever I can, doesn't matter, you know, sometimes on

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01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: the street and in traffic and well not while driving.

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: But this is something that I'm always trying to just

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01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: use whatever time I can to read more. And one

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01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: because I love it, but also I find it's the

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01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: single most important thing I do for this show. Yes,

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: reading the news day in the day out, but also

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01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: reading in the more more old school format of books,

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01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: bringing the knowledge of of issues that can only come

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01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: in the perspective that comes from diving deep enough into

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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: a subject to read too three five pages on something

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Speaker 1: at a time. So with that, I thought it would

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: be fun instead of just off the top of my head,

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01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: I would just share with you without an in depth

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01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: analysis of any of them, although if you're curious so

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01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: you can write me and you can share with me

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: at a at a later point. You know your thoughts

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01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: on these books, but if you have questions, you can

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: write me on them. I'll just read you what's on

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01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: my kindle now. I I have a fondness for hard

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01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: copy books, actual physical books as well, and I can

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: post some photos on Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton,

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: as I've done in the past, of my book stacks,

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01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: both the finished stacks as well as the to get

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01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: two stacks. But I thought that it might be easiest

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01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 1: right now to just look at what we have on

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: my kindle. So with that, I will share with you

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Speaker 1: the following. Um, Okay, I have a book called Okay,

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:02,480
Speaker 1: here we go, White Gold The Aquarium of pyeong Yang, Antifa,

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 1: The Anti Fascist Handbook, UH Dracula, Prince of Many Faces.

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: What Happened Hillary Rodham Clinton by Hillary rom Clinton Escaped

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01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: from Camp fourteen M. Don Quixote, Dracula Frankenstein, American Lion

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01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: by John Mitchum, Seeing Like a State Orwell four G. K. Chesterton,

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01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: Eugenics and Other Evils, The History of the Fabian Society,

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: Left of Boom, Walter Isaacson, Einstein Isis Inside the Army

1444
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: of Terror, Mark Twain, The Innocence Abroad, and the works

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01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 1: of H. L. Mankin. So that gives you a sense

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01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: of what's you know, if you're if you're in for

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01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: some rex other books to buy, or what I have

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: been thumbing through recently and what I have read recently,

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01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: those are that's a pretty good summer. Now. These are

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01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: books that I'm reading on my own, and I'm trying

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01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: to focus more on just what I am reading or

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01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: have read instead of what I am doing research on

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01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,919
Speaker 1: right because I'm actually working on some projects that require

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01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: me to compile a whole bunch of books. But I

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01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: can't sit here and tell you that you should spend

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01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: your time, for example, reading books about you know, the

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01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: history of of authoritarianism, for example, or the psychology of

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01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: people's or UH group psychology, propaganda. These are all things

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,440
Speaker 1: that I read for research and for my own purposes.

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: But some of the ones that I've recommended to you

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01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: are I've told you about The Aquariums of Pyongyang and

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01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: Escape from Camp fourteen, two books on North Korea that

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01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: you must, must, must read. It will give you an

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01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: understanding of North Korea that you would not have otherwise,

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01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: and it will influence the way you think about all

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Speaker 1: this news coverage of North Korea and everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Dracula Princes of Many Faces. It's by Rad Florescu and

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: a co author McNally. It's very thorough. You know that.

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01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: I find the real Vlad dra cool character fascinating. I've

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: done shows on it. The Dracula Princes of Many Faces book,

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01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: though it's it's a little too dense and too detailed

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Speaker 1: and there and it lacks narrative flow, so it's not

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01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: a With all due respect to the authors, it's not

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: a great read, but it contains a lot of historical

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Speaker 1: information on Dracula. So I read, I mean, I've read

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01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: that one cover to cover uh, more than well once

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01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: and then gone back to it for research purposes because

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01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: I with Akindle like an highlight and feel like I'm

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: not disrespecting the book. I said, escape from Camp for

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01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: teen what had happened with Hillary Clinton? That I just

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: had to read for work purposes. Not really a whole

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01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of new there. Uh. Don Quixote, I am not

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01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: finished with Don Quixote. That's Miguel de Cervantes. Some people

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01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: claim it is the greatest novel ever written. Uh, it

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01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: is certainly a long novel. I'm making my way through that.

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01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: Bram Stoker's Dracula, which I knew the story well and

1487
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: had read excerpts of, but I went back and read

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01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: the whole thing cover to cover. It's funny because a

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: producer Amy went back in Red Dracula bram Stoker's original

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Dracula as well, around the same time I did, and

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: we just figured that out and we were talking about

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01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: books before a show one day. And it's a masterpiece.

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01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: I mean, bram Stoker's Dracula is it's almost like a

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: screenplay written before there was such a thing as a movie.

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: It flows really well. There's a lot of brilliance in

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01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: it and it is a true masterpiece. So I know,

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01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: you know the story of Dracula, and you know, you'll

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01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: pick up on a lot of stuff that you already

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: know as you go through it. But if you go

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01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 1: back and read the original, especially if you want to

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01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: read something kind of spooky at night before you go

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01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: to sleep. And one thing about the original Dracula, there

1503
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: is a very clear, uh, God versus the Devil, good

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01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 1: versus evil, Christian versus uh are Christ versus Satan aspect

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: of it, and it's often lost in the modern incarnations

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01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: of the vampire mythology. It's often lost that it was

1507
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: the the secret weapon, if you will, or the ultimate

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01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: weapon against Dracula was the Eucharist, the body and blood

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01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: of Christ, that that could be used against the demon effectively. Uh.

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01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: That that gets lost in some of the modern vampire translations,

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01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: that it was Christ and the Cross and Jesus that

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01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: was the greatest enemy of Dracula, Dracula representing in this case,

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01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 1: the the devil and the darkness. So I just would

1514
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: go back and read it and you'll see what I mean.

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01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: There's a very clear Christian theme to the book that

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01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: is not that doesn't stay through the rest of doesn't

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01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: stay through the rest of the modern versions. And then

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01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: just two authors that may otherwise escape your attention. If

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01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: you're somebody who just likes wit and insight and truly

1520
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: great writing. Uh, it's hard to be g K. Chesterton.

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01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I put him right up there in the same category

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01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: as say In Orwell or hl Mankin. Some of his

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01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: stuff is not going to stand up to a modern

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01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: to our modern sensibilities. But Menkin had a lot of

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01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: wit and a lot of flair and style and his

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01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: writing and insight and was not afraid, not afraid to

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01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: say things that at that time or any time would

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01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: have been uh controversial. I also have Michel Ulbeck's book Submission,

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01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: which is a French novel that I read that I

1530
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 1: really liked and would very much recommend to all of you.

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01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: It's about the Islamization of France. So that's one that

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01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: comes up on the kindle, right, I mean, I have

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01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty books on my kindle, so I'm trying.

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01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the Koran is on here because I want

1535
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 1: to be able to jump back and forth in it,

1536
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: and it's easier, and you know, it's just for research purposes.

1537
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Having a digital copy is very helpful. What else is

1538
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: in here? Um Audios America and Coulter that's in my kindle.

1539
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: Read that one cover to cover as well, very much

1540
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: recommend that to all of you, and is and is

1541
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: great at what she does, very talented writer. And then

1542
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I know, I've got a whole lot of other stuff

1543
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: on here that I won't get into for right now,

1544
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: but that should hopefully keep you busy for a while.

1545
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I gave you a whole bunch of what's on bucks Kindle,

1546
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: and this is a continuing theme of Bucks books that

1547
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 1: we can revisit together as you see fit. Seeing like

1548
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 1: a State is fascinating, but it's very dry. It's by

1549
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: James C. Scott. He's a Yale professor. But it will

1550
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: explain why government's mess up in a way that you

1551
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: might find really illuminating. But yeah, Dracula read that. If

1552
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 1: you haven't read Frankenstein, I'll tell you. I had to

1553
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: go back and read Dr Jacqueline Mr. Hyde. I knew

1554
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: the story, but I had never read it in full. Uh,

1555
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: obviously escape from camp Artine. I've read Aquariums of pyeong

1556
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Yang White Gold, very good, very interesting, and those would

1557
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: be my Oh Hill Billy Elogy I just finished recently.

1558
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: If you want to throw that in there too. It's good,

1559
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: not as good as some people think it is, but

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01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: it's it. It flows well, and we'll return to this

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01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: another time. There you go, though, If you wanted a

1562
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: recommendation for some books, just some random books, you can

1563
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,440
Speaker 1: play back this podcast or play this back on podcast

1564
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: and there you have it. All right, See, we'll be

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01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: back into a second that was Buck Books for this addition,

1566
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: stay with me, alright, team, it's time for some team

1567
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Buck speaks New Orleans addition. I'm gonna have to get

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01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: better at saying it. I have to tell you this

1569
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: is a great town I love. I'm trying not to

1570
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: say New Orleans. That's just the way New Yorkers say it.

1571
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: And people from New Orleans, I'm sure are just they

1572
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: They probably laugh. I hope they laugh at it. Hi,

1573
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: I would like to go to New Orleans. I'm flying

1574
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: out of La Guardia Airport. Uh it's no LANs So

1575
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: in any event, it is a great town. I love

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01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: this place. Um Ms Molly talks sometimes about how she

1577
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: wants to move down here. So that's a whole other

1578
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: thing that I'm gonna have to handle over the next

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01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: few days. But it is great. People are super nice,

1580
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: and it's just got so much culture. It's a thriving,

1581
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: awesome town. And the food. So far, I haven't even

1582
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: really gotten too deep into the culinary experience, but everything

1583
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I've had the issious and I'm really looking forward to it.

1584
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be checking out some of the mainstay flagship

1585
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans restaurants this weekend, so I'll be bouncing around

1586
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: and spending some time in the French Quarter and I'm

1587
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm psyched. Oh I'm gonna go on a on a

1588
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: Buyou Alligator tour, which is something I'm really looking forward to.

1589
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go check out a Voodoo tour as well,

1590
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna see alligators. I'm gonna enter the spirit

1591
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 1: realm and go check out some graveyards and make my

1592
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: way to the World War Two Museum. So just so far,

1593
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: have to say two thumbs way up for for New Orleans.

1594
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: And I want to thank the folks here at w

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01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: r n O for so graciously hosting me. It's one

1596
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: of our wonderful affiliates on the Buck Sexton Show, and

1597
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: it's it's been a great experience, and I'm so happy

1598
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: to be down here and I'll be in the same spot.

1599
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be broadcasting from New Orleans on Monday. So

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01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: with that, let's get into some team Buck speaks Buck,

1601
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: I disagree with your theory that we will have to

1602
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: learn to live with a nuclear North Korea. We will

1603
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: expend all diplomatic options, encourage our allies to put pressure

1604
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:16,799
Speaker 1: on North Korea, and get China to intervene in the region.

1605
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 1: So when all else fails, we will destroy the North

1606
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: Korean arsenal facilities and regime, but only after they belligerently

1607
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: defy the world and launch a missile with intent to

1608
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: destroy one of our allies. We have the capability to

1609
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: do it, it's just a matter of will. We may

1610
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: have to employ our laser cannons for the first time, Lathers.

1611
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 1: Doing so would terrify not just our enemies, but our allies.

1612
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure President Trump and d O D will make

1613
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: every effort to avoid doing that until it's absolutely necessary.

1614
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: When the century now, Star Wars is becoming less fiction

1615
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: more fact. Shields high from Thomas. Okay, Thomas, a few things.

1616
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: We're already doing all the things that you are suggesting

1617
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: we will do as a country, and none of them

1618
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: so far have been sufficient to even slow down, never

1619
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: mind stop the North Korean nuclear program in any meaningful way.

1620
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: So I I have to say, I I wish I

1621
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: could share your enthusiasm for diplomacy and sanctions working. I

1622
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: wrote about this on the Hill dot com. I should

1623
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: note for those of you who would like to read

1624
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: it it is the piece was published yesterday on the

1625
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: Hill dot com. Get ready for a North Korea that

1626
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: can fire nukes anywhere. I make my argument in some

1627
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: detail there, So go check that out at the Hill

1628
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 1: dot com and or on buck Sexton dot com if

1629
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: you just want to go to the easiest place to

1630
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 1: find it. Um and Thomas and I are just gonna

1631
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: have to agree to disagree on that one. Joseph writes

1632
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: in the following Uh, Geronimo was Apache not Navajo? Ha,

1633
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: I got to correct the buckster. That made my day.

1634
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 1: And I mean that has a compliment. Keep it up, man, Well,

1635
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Joe's if you're right, I'm wrong. Uh it is he

1636
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: was in fact an Apache not Navajo. So you got me,

1637
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: you got me. We could we could have Tyrone hit

1638
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: the buzzer because you got me, Jason writes in with

1639
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the following just heard you mentioned that more history deep

1640
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: dives are in the works for the podcast made my day. Well, Jason,

1641
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. Those history deep dives require a lot

1642
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: of research and effort on my part. But because all

1643
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: of you listening seem to enjoy them so much and

1644
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 1: get so much out of them, and I love doing them,

1645
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: We're moving in that direction in a big way. In

1646
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 1: and look, I'm just gonna tell you right now, the

1647
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,839
Speaker 1: first podcast that I have in mind, the first podcast

1648
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: on the schedule, Charles Martel The Hammer turning back the

1649
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: first major wave of jihad into the heart of Europe itself. Oh,

1650
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. All right, Now, we got one

1651
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: from David I remember this is on Facebook dot com

1652
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: slash buck Sexton. Hey Buck, I've been trying to get

1653
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: through on military quote Friday, but have yet to be successful.

1654
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,440
Speaker 1: Having said that, I'm going to give you my military

1655
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 1: movie quote right here. If you decide to use it

1656
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: but don't know the answer, I will provide the answer.

1657
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: Good luck. Here it is Huh the Navy just saved

1658
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: our butts. Well, I can tell you that you got

1659
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: me David, I have no idea what that one is.

1660
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: You'll have to write in and tell me. So there

1661
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: you go. Bo writes in with a short but sweet

1662
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 1: message here, great show and shields high. Well, thank you

1663
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: Bo very much. Appreciate you listening all right. Mark writes

1664
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: in with the following, good show tonight. Thank you Mark.

1665
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 1: That was for Wednesday night, so I'm glad you liked

1666
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: that show. Jason writes in with the falling buck. I

1667
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,839
Speaker 1: heard what you say I said about bacon saving dishes.

1668
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm here to one up your brother. Try this for Christmas.

1669
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: Bacon wrapped rind turkey stuffed with sausage stuffing. It was

1670
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: insane and delicious. Folks. I can tell you I can

1671
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: describe this photo. It's gonna be a little dirty. I

1672
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 1: don't know if you're ready for this, but Jason sent

1673
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: me a naughty looking turkey that is covered in juicy, fatty,

1674
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 1: amazing strips of bacon. The whole turkey. It is literally

1675
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: covered every inch of it in bacon. I didn't know

1676
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 1: that was a thing people did, and it is amazing.

1677
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Jason also writes You're welcome. Love you, bro, Jason, love

1678
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: you too, and love your idea. Of a bacon wrapped

1679
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: turkey with stuffing. It's awesome. Uh. One more here, Kirk

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Speaker 1: writes in Buck, I really enjoy your foreign policy coverage.

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Speaker 1: It is such a nice shift from the domestic narrative.

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Speaker 1: I also want to mention something regarding a tax plan

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Speaker 1: that nobody is talking about. That is the slight tax

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Speaker 1: increase for those earning between sixty eight thousand and two

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Speaker 1: and fifty k. That is a in the middle class

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Speaker 1: that does not have the tax shelters of the very

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Speaker 1: rich norther deductions of the working class. Um So there

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Speaker 1: you go. Uh And I agree with you, Kirk, and

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for writing in all Right, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be it for my first edition of the Freedom Hunt,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, New Orleans. I'm working on it. Thanks again

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Speaker 1: to w rn O for hosting me, and to all

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Speaker 1: our listeners in the New Orleans area and of course

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Speaker 1: Team Buck across the whole country. I am excited to

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Speaker 1: explore the Big Easy over the course of this weekend

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Speaker 1: and just dive as deep as I can in the

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Speaker 1: local cuisine and meet a lot of folks. If you

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Speaker 1: live in the area, you see me on the street,

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Speaker 1: you listen to the show. Please do say hi. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we've can get to meet Ms Molly, which is way

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Speaker 1: more exciting than meeting me. Anyway, have a great weekend everyone,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you on Monday. Shields High