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Speaker 1: you dirty dog. You know this is not the time

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00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: to be messing with me. You beat beat you know,

427
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: you know, call me back later. This is not funny

428
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then um, turns out I was on

429
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: speaker phone with Coach Fish and the whole front office,

430
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: and Coach Coach was like, hey, what's up man, Yeah,

431
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: he's not lying. We're gonna draft you with the next pick.

432
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, hey, wait, this is the

433
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: whole front office as well. Oh no, and so and

434
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: so I was like, uh, my, apologies, we had all

435
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: met before, but I'm like, oh, okay. And then from that,

436
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 1: from that point on, it was it was. It became

437
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of a joke, but um, and when it sunk in,

438
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: it was. It was definitely one of the greatest feelings

439
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: that I've ever felt. But in that moment, I was

440
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: just so like, Okay, you know, he tripped me up

441
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. But so my one of my best

442
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: friends in the point on the planet got to call

443
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: me and tell me that I was drafted, which was

444
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: really cool. That's so cool. But in your defense, they

445
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: set you up. You're going to speak to your best

446
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: friend way differently than you're going to speak to your

447
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: future boss. Dirty. Yeah, I get that. I'm on your side.

448
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: It is so Jeff Fisher, oh man, it was so good.

449
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: And Ryan Felt and all the guys that were in there,

450
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: they they didn't hold it against me. They thought it

451
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: was pretty good. But I think I think the first

452
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: phone call is what really set that up because he

453
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: knew that I was on edge, and then for him

454
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: to be able to do anyways it was. It was

455
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: really good. We still laugh about it in looking at

456
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: your rookie year from that phone call and being drafted

457
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: to twenty two all the way through. I can't think

458
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: of many more bizarre, wild up and down rookie years

459
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: that people have had in Titans history. Because here's a guy. Okay,

460
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: let's do his highlights right here. Kickoff return against the

461
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos for a touchdown, punt return against Washington for

462
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown the following season, the following season, a punt

463
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown at Carolina. Those were the three touchdowns. Ye,

464
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: back to the rookie year. Though you start off like

465
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: a house of fire, the team starts off like a

466
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: house of fire. Philadelphia Game Kenny Britt torches the Eagles

467
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, catches two hundred and twenty five

468
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: yards where the passes team is five and two, goes

469
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: to San Diego ahead in that ball game, nineteen to seven,

470
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: getting ready to run away with that game. Let's that

471
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: game get typical San Diego. Yeah, anyway, and from there

472
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: you win just one more game and then and then

473
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: it's in the bench, young. Thing happened after the Washington game.

474
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: Coach Fisher's gone after the season, after they announced that

475
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: he was gonna return. I mean, while it was, it was,

476
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: it was crazy. And I already told you a little

477
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: bit of my small town, you know, coming out of

478
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: moving to Nashville, and so I'm already wide eyed, you know,

479
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: coming in. And I was very very very fortunate, and

480
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: I've I've come to appreciate opportunities in this business even more.

481
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: But because back then, I was like, oh, this makes sense,

482
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: I should be the return man, you know whatever in

483
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: my head. But you know, you those it was so

484
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: fortunate for me to fall into a place that needed

485
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: a return man. First of all, I mean, how many

486
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: seventh round guys make it at all? And then you know,

487
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: get to play, you know, hundreds of snaps and and

488
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So so fortunate for that situation. But

489
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: you're right, the year was just chaos. I mean it was.

490
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: It was bonkers. I remember I was at the Pro

491
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: Bowl when I got called that coach Coach Fish was

492
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: getting let go. And that's really late in the game

493
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: for for a coach to get to get let go.

494
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: And so there was all that going on. The Heimerdinger thing,

495
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: we had to change offensive coordinators in the middle. I mean,

496
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: it was it was a really crazy year. Yeah, let

497
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: me go back to that Mike Himberdinger diagnosed with can

498
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: are in season and he is still trying to call

499
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: the plays. Yeah, that season is falling apart. Vince Young

500
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: is hurt, and the thing happens where he throws his

501
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: shoulder pads in the stands, and then there's the thing

502
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: that happened in the locker room and all of that.

503
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Randy Moss is here. Yes, yes, Randy Moss is in

504
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: your room. You're a rookie in the NFL. Hey, you're

505
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: a long way from Harve Montana at the point you

506
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: meet Randy Moss in your room. That was one of

507
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: the He's still he was only here for six weeks

508
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: maybe or something, that he's one of the greatest people,

509
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: greatest teammates I've ever been around. And I love that

510
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: dude so much. But talk about like a little bit

511
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: of starstruck or like in AWE, you're talking about first

512
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer one in my in my opinion,

513
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: just because he's my buddy with the best ever and

514
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: you're going, this guy is now just hanging out. I

515
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: remember giving him some martial jokes because he beat the

516
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: Montana Grizzlies in the National Championship and so he thought

517
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that was pretty funny that I was like, instead of

518
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: introducing myself, I kind of was like, oh, great, you know,

519
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: beat us, beat us in the ninety five National Championships.

520
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: So he thought that was funny. But yeah, I mean,

521
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: all of this is going on, and you know, I'm

522
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out. You know, as a rookie,

523
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're a first round pick or

524
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: a free agent or whatever. You don't know the ropes.

525
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: You're just trying to You're just trying to make it

526
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: and figure it out and you know, get to get

527
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: to meetings on time and whatever. And then meanwhile, success

528
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: was happening on the field, and it was just yeah,

529
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: you're right, it was. It was chaos. Do you have

530
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: a favorite Randy Moff's story as a teammate, Um, you know,

531
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: one of my favorite. It wasn't. While he was here.

532
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: He definitely taught me a lot. I mean, he he

533
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: made me stay after with him after practice. He made

534
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: me get up on Tuesdays and come work out with

535
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: him because I was a rookie and we get Tuesdays off,

536
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: and I thought, perfect love a good day off. Days

537
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: off are beautiful. And once he got here is no man,

538
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: there's no days off. And I'm like that Randy Moss

539
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: voice might be my favorite thing. It's deep south. No

540
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: he but he but He's you know, it's like Monday,

541
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, but I usually like to go

542
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: have a couple of beers on Monday. Randy like, and Tuesday,

543
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: what do you mean? He's like, no, We'll be working

544
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: out by seven am on Tuesday morning, me, him, Waterson

545
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: and Damian Williams and we and he made us come

546
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: in every Tuesday. And at the time I almost almost took.

547
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: First couple of times, I thought it was you know, punishment,

548
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: and then I realized, this is what a this is

549
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: what a you know, ten time Pro Bowl or best ever.

550
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: This is how you get to that point. You know.

551
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: That's he kind of helped me get to that point.

552
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: And on the field, he taught me some things that

553
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: I still here in the back of my head. And

554
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: he was just fun to be around. Now, he didn't

555
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: come out here and kill it for the Titans on

556
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: the as far as he didn't have yeah, he couldn't.

557
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: He didn't have a lot of He didn't you know,

558
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: have many catches or anything. But it was being around

559
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: him is enough for me. But one of my greatest

560
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: moments is he was doing an interview on Fox and

561
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: he was asked, who is who is his favorite teammates were,

562
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I was just on the

563
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: top of his mind or what, but he threw my

564
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: name in there and name dropped me as one of

565
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: his favorite favorite teammates of all time. And I was

566
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: just like, he's like, oh, a small town guy from Montana.

567
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: He was like, you know whatever. He and he went

568
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: on to he elaborated a little bit, but I was like,

569
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, immediately my phone blows up and everything and

570
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: I just just love the dude. Man, he's been so

571
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: good to me, so good to me. Being back in

572
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: this building, there have to be a ton of memories

573
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: that are flashing through your head right now. Do you

574
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: have one or two that are at the top, Oh? Man, Yeah,

575
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: I just, I just I've spent so many hours on

576
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: this field. I mean, I've I've you know, gotten sick,

577
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: I've I've had glory moments out there. I've had good

578
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: times and bad and I just we're we're over here

579
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: overlooking the practice fields right now. It's just, you know,

580
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: so many hours have spent out there and just memories

581
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: of you know, what you do when you're in this

582
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: business is ninety five percent of your life is spent

583
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: well more than that, ninety eight percent of your life

584
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: is spent in the locker room or on the practice

585
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: field whatever. Game day is like the easiest part of

586
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: the job, you know, And that's what everyone sees. But meanwhile,

587
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: you spend thousands countless hours in this building and in

588
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: the weight room and on these fields, and I mean,

589
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: I can't I'm I'm picking I can picture thousands of moments.

590
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: I can't pick any out that are you know, any

591
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: better than any of the other ones. But I see

592
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: these guys over here catching out of the jugs when

593
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: we pulled up, and it's just you know, things like that,

594
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, I I won't be unless I go

595
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: out and get one. I'm not going to be catching

596
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: off the jugs again, you know, like I used to

597
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: the beast I used to you know. So it's it

598
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: is a lot of amazing memories, to be honest with you,

599
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: and to come back here like we talked about when

600
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: he came in, and to pull in the gate and

601
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: to kind of the full parking lot and everybody's out

602
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: here and working and sweating. You know, it's just you

603
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: can't replace it. It's just unbelievable feeling. And I was

604
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: honored to be a part of this team. And uh

605
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: definitely will never forget these moments. Mike, do you have

606
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: a favorite Mark Marianny moment? Because that was beautiful, But

607
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, and it's not one of his touchdowns. Dallas,

608
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: Texas two thousand to ten, Mike Whin't let me down.

609
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: The Titans had outplayed the Cowboys all day, Tony Romo

610
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: got sacked and got run over, and yet he brings

611
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys back to tie the game. And the ensuing

612
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: kickoff return Mark Marianne He's seventy three yards to set

613
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: up the game winning score. Chris Johnson had a great day.

614
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: There were a bunch of you know, big plays in

615
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: the ball game, and it was really exciting. It was

616
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: a very good Cowboys team. Yeah, and at that moment

617
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: when you broke that kick off down the right sideline

618
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: yep and set up the game winning score. I mean

619
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: that was to beat them at Texas Stadium in that

620
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: way at that time. I mean, if if you're I

621
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: grew up a Cowboy fan, yeah, and if you grew

622
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: up here, you picked a team because there was no

623
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: team close by. Yeah, so you're a Cowboy fan or

624
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: your Steeler fan, or your Packer fan or your Raider fan, whatever,

625
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's how you did it. And for my

626
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: hometown team, now that I have a hometown team, to

627
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: beat that team, which I had on such a pedestal,

628
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite wins ever. Well, I think

629
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: that that my first touchdown, of course, but that moment

630
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: for me was one of the most special moments because

631
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: it was such a pivotal play in the game. He

632
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: was late in the fourth and I hate to say,

633
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: I hate to say this on air, we might have

634
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: to edit this out, but I actually got face masked

635
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: by the kicker. Yes you did, because he was an

636
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: All American linebacker or torres al and then he started kicking,

637
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: so he was he was a stack guy from USC

638
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: that's correct. Yeah. Yeah, his name's slid Yeah, his name's

639
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: slipping me right now. But I thought I had the

640
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: angle on him, and he and he he got me

641
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: barely by my face mats. But yeah, bul yeah, Bueler, Yep,

642
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: that's right. Bueler was his name. Yep, that's correct, Bueler,

643
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Bueler Classic. But yeah, so I we get set up

644
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: inside the five or something, and then you know, I

645
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: was that, I got it. I still got a lot

646
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: of flak from the boys for this from back home.

647
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: But the headline the next day is the Chris Johnson

648
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown. Wait a second, no, hold on a second,

649
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: how did you get how do we get there? Does

650
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: it say how we got down the field? I didn't forget? Yeah, no,

651
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I but to be honest, and not not only that

652
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: was it America's team, but it was also um the

653
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: brand new Jerry's world. I mean, I don't know if

654
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: it was the inaugural season, but it was the first

655
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: time we had been there that yeah there, Yeah, I

656
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: thought it was Texas Stadium. Still, oh no, no, it

657
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: was Jerry. It was in Jerry's work. Okay. Yeah, so

658
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: so in this in this, well, that's one hundred percent

659
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: right because we went there earlier and that's where the

660
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: backup punter hit the hit the jumbo truck. Yeah yeah,

661
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: so you're right. Well, and what's crazy about that stadium?

662
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: And you can see it if you watch Cowboys games,

663
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: but the sun at that hour comes in and it

664
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: blinds you because it's just all the windows. It's about

665
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: as bad as angle as I've ever had to catch

666
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: punts or or kicks. The stadium in Jacksonville might be

667
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: number one, but this one is terrible. And anyway, I

668
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: caught that ball up off my shoulder because I couldn't

669
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: see it, and even Coach Fish after he wasn't he wasn't,

670
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, he was excited, he was smacking, but he

671
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: came up and got in my helmet and he was like,

672
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: no one will ever understand how hard it was to

673
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: catch that ball. And I appreciate that, you know whatever,

674
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: because he knew because he's a great return himself. That

675
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: that was a very and so once I got it

676
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: and shook off the the you know, the whatever they're called,

677
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: the lights in my eyes and took it down that

678
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: right side line. I mean that that to me is

679
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: a special moment and like you, you beat me to it,

680
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: but that that one is up there with my first

681
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: touchdown of all time. Scarier to return kickoffs or punts?

682
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: Good question, I think puns. I mean, I know there's

683
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: a lot of talk and I saw the rule change

684
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: just recently about the danger of kickoff. The danger of

685
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: kickoffs are there's not as much as with the returner

686
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: as it is with the guys um flying down the

687
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: field and the guys standing there blocking. Um. I got

688
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot of love for guys that do that and

689
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: make a career out of that, because that can be

690
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: a brutal gig. But when you're standing under a punt,

691
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: you don't know where everybody is, you're not really sure,

692
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: and you could be lit up at any moment, And

693
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's nothing like and it's scary

694
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 1: as the wrong word. Because I have a few screws loose.

695
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: I actually like that feeling it's like I got, I

696
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: got there's something wrong with me because I stand back

697
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: there and I've taken my licks, but definitely standing under

698
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: a punt, and especially when that's hanging up there and

699
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: you start hearing guys huffing and puffing around, it's just

700
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: it's too good. Man. Will you bungee jump? Oh? Yeah,

701
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: so you'll, So you'll bungee You'll ride roller coasters? Yeah?

702
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: You this is you. You were made to be a

703
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: punt returner. Well, I don't know what you know. I

704
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: get asked that a lot is what how how did

705
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: how did it come to? How did you get um? Like?

706
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: What what made it? Made you so good at it?

707
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: Or how did you get so good at it? Because

708
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: as a as a player, you know, especially in college,

709
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: you're returning kicks, but you're I was a focal point

710
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: on offense and so you're just that's what you're focused

711
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: on a lot. And and so you know, the special

712
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: teams gets, you know, just a certain percentage small percentage

713
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: of the day overall to prepare. So I mean, you

714
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: don't it's not something that UM is in anybody's forefront,

715
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, until you get that to that moment where

716
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: that is your job only. But you know, it's like

717
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: it just kind of started. I just was I was

718
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: fit for it. Kind of I didn't mind getting hit. Um,

719
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: I didn't mind. It didn't scare me to get hit.

720
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: And UM, I had a great coach in college, and

721
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: then when I got here, coach Fish was phenomenal at

722
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: teaching techniques and um, and so standing under punts and

723
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: and and being able to kind of be fearless a

724
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: little bit, because what happens is you get you get

725
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: guys barreling down on you, and you get a little nervous,

726
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: you get kind of I get alligator arms. But being

727
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: able to be a little bit fearless and learning great

728
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: technique from guys that you know helped me out really

729
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: was the reason that um, I was able to prolong

730
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: my career and be a return man. And um, you

731
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: know we're sitting here today and so just a good ride,

732
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: fun ride. You've had, UM kind of a gnarly injury

733
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: in the middle of your career. You snapped your leg,

734
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term. Morning to watch today too.

735
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: When you look down in your your leg is going

736
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: the other way, it's uh not great. Well, what's what's

737
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: What was crazy about it is that I was returning

738
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a punt. I stuck my left foot in the ground.

739
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: It got snapped like a tree, wood, piece of treewood

740
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: or something. You're you're you're breaking for a fire or whatever.

741
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: And but I didn't feel it right away. And everybody

742
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: in the pile was like, just youlling trainer or trainer,

743
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: we need a trainer. And I'm like, whoa, I mean everybody,

744
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dan, somebody hurt. But it was not

745
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: an unusual looking play. No, it wasn't exactly repreas on radio.

746
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: We didn't know what had happened for a few minutes

747
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: because I mean, you got tackled, you fell over, you

748
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: were way away from from where our broadcast position was.

749
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: But it was not It wasn't anything where you immediately

750
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: said there's a problem exactly right, yeah, one hundred percent.

751
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know either. I mean, I kind

752
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: of felt something, but that in that moment, I thought, dang,

753
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: someone must be hurt because they're yelling for people are

754
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: yelling for a trainer. I don't know what happened, but

755
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm at the bottom of the pile, you know, kind

756
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: of figuring out, you know, making sure I still out

757
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: the ball and all that stuff. And then I look

758
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: all right in that picture there's a couple of pictures

759
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: or of some video of it, I like reach down

760
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: and grab my leg and sort of pick up my

761
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: leg from from just below my knee, and my foot

762
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: just flops over to the side. And then that that,

763
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: and then it started hurting, and then I'm like it's me.

764
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: It's me. I'm the one. I need the trainer. I

765
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: need somebody to get over here immediately, and I'll never forget.

766
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Uh um Um. El Rod comes running out. Doctor el

767
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Rod comes drying out, and Brad Brown and our trainer,

768
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: our head trainer. Yes. Um. He gets up in my face,

769
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: like in my face, like so I can't even move,

770
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I can't see anything. And I'm like, even in that moment,

771
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, easy, bro, like that too, just a little bit,

772
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: like what's going on. And what happened was Elrod was

773
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: right behind him and he just grabbed my foot and

774
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: set the bone right there. But they knew that they couldn't.

775
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: Brad knew he couldn't prepare me for that, like, hey,

776
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna set it whatever. He was just making sure

777
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: I didn't like lose it when that happened. And then

778
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: once he got that, and so for a while after

779
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: Brad and I would laugh about that too. And once

780
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: he did that, like do you yeah, get me out

781
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: of here, because then the pain started really setting in

782
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: once he said it. What happens the moment they take

783
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: you off? And what and what do you remember about

784
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: what happened? Because I mean it was August twenty third,

785
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, started your third year. The crowd

786
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: was your crowd favorite, you're a pro bowler, Titans fans

787
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: love you. I mean, everybody's just sick, and I mean,

788
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: so you're you're going out of the stadium. How fast

789
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: do things start happening medically at that point? Well, what

790
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: happened was that, um, what you know, we got in

791
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: the ambulance. They gave me my cell phone, which was thankfully,

792
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: but once we got in the ambulus, they gave me

793
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: some meds. But what happened was they took me to

794
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: the hospital. And the worst part about the whole thing, well,

795
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: we did we did the X rays and everything. The

796
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: worst part about it was I was taped. My ankles

797
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: were taped and so they couldn't really see it. And

798
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: once they did all the X rays, but they didn't

799
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: want to take the tape off because then the swelling

800
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: comes in. Then you can't get good X rays all

801
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: the stuff. Once they cut the tape off, which was

802
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: the last thing, like all right, we're done, we'll take

803
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: the tape off, they realized that the bones had come

804
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: through the camp, so that that sends you to emergency

805
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: surgery immediately. But there's a good news bad news situation

806
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: in that you didn't see that, right, did you see it?

807
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Um, like

808
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: like you'd be thinking of it. They showed me the

809
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: at that point the bone was set, so there was

810
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: there's something that I saw that I can't The anatomy

811
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: part slips my mind, but I can't describe it. But

812
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: it was not it was weird. It was a weird

813
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: looking injury at that point. Were mom and Dad at

814
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: the game? No, they were not. They were in Um

815
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: they were in Montana and my mom was freaking out,

816
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: so they were. Um they were on the plane the

817
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: next day. And UM, I have so much love for

818
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: you know, Titans organization because they always left somebody with me,

819
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: and um, you know, everybody came to visit. Um, you know,

820
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: from the GM to the head coach to the system GM, everybody.

821
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: So uh, tell my parents got there. But yes, when

822
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: at that point, once they saw it broke the skin,

823
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: I had to go to emergency surgery. And UM, you

824
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: know what's another crazy part is emergency surgery. Once you

825
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: have a bone that shatters like that, Um, it's basically

826
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: just carpentry putting it back together. So there's pins and

827
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: screws and needles or and still oh yeah, oh yeah, uh,

828
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: nails and plates and rod through my tibia and all

829
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: that stuff. But never was casted. Started walking the next

830
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: day like crazy, started rehab the next day, which is

831
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: just crazy to me. So uh those guys are the best,

832
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, and and UM took great care of me.

833
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: And so then then uh, the biggest obstacle in my

834
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: life starts. And you know, you don't have a choice.

835
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: Who were what got you through that? Oh? Man, I

836
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: don't know what it was. I there was a lot

837
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: of things. I I I think this building was part

838
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: of it. And that's why I love, um the people

839
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: in this building so much. UM, the amazing support that

840
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I have, you know, throughout the state of Montana and

841
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: in and in Middle Tennessee. Um, you know, I got

842
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: so much you know, love and support from schools and

843
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: people sending cards and stuff, and um, you know, I

844
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: just feel like I just feel like you're just not

845
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: There's no You're not given a choice. It's like, okay,

846
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: well you get to either sit here and start your

847
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: rehab and be diligent and do the things that you

848
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: need to do to get better. You have to teach

849
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: yourself how to walk again, which is not not fun,

850
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: or you can just like sit around. What's what's the alternative?

851
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: There isn't one, you know. So once I stopped feeling

852
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: sorry for myself and being angry that it happened, it

853
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: was like, well, dude, you only have one choice. So

854
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: I got the pleasure of spending lots and lots of

855
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: hours with the training staff, all the great people down there,

856
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: and it was it was, you know, a very hard

857
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: fall for me. And uh, but you know, I just

858
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: knew that. You know, it's not something that you can

859
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: cut corners, take shorts cuts. If you don't do the

860
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: first phase of it correctly, it'll screw up the fifth phase,

861
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like you just you just got

862
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: to do it. And um, you know I talk about

863
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: learning some life lessons being through that. Um, it'll it'll

864
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: teach you some some patience and some perseverance and some

865
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, just discipline and you know, just picking up

866
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: marbles with your toes for hours at a time. It's

867
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: just you know, you don't have a it's not a

868
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: lot of excitement going on. So but UM learned a

869
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: lot from it. Was able to come back and play

870
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: and so all all great things. And you know, just

871
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: got to learn from adversity. When you come back and play,

872
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: do you lose some of that fearlessness that you need

873
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: to have to be a returner? How do you not? Yeah,

874
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: it's really a better maybe to me, I was thinking

875
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good point, I think.

876
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: And what happened to to to further the story, if

877
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: you remember, is I actually had to spend the next

878
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: year on IR as well. I had to go get

879
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: multiple clean up surgeries in my leg and that that

880
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: was probably more frustrating because I felt like I was healthy,

881
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: but I really wasn't. I needed to go. I went

882
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: out to some specialists, some foot and ankle specialists. I

883
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: ended up doing my surgery and Veil, Colorado with the

884
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: Olympic ski team guy and because of course, well yeah

885
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: who else, Well yeah, no exactly. It's like, hey, here's

886
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: a couple free trips out to Veil. Okay, perfect, you

887
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: gotta do surgery and some physical therapy but whatever, um

888
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: so um. But anyways, yeah, I just you know what,

889
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: I think. I played that preseason and I think more

890
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: than anything, what I wanted to do was I wanted

891
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: to get hit again, and I wanted to get hit

892
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: on my leg again. And I'll never forget I got

893
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: crushed and it just was like a It was not

894
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: a didn't get rolled up. It was just a direct

895
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: helmet on my shin and nothing happened. It hurt like heck,

896
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: but nothing happened. I'm fine, it's not gonna break. Chill out, dude,

897
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: go do your job and it's all good. And once

898
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I got hit and once I got rattled a bit,

899
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: it was business as usually. Do you remember pill cheering

900
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: for you when you stood back there to catch your

901
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: first time? I remember, yeah, yeah I do. I mean

902
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: it was it was one of those moments that makes

903
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: you love sports because those people were, they were with you,

904
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: they were they were catching the kick with you. Well,

905
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: if you know, you want to talk about why I

906
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: feel so strongly about um, this this city and this

907
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: organization and in this area, it's it's because of how

908
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: much love that they've given me. And you know, I

909
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: could never repay all those people for doing that. It's

910
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: just it was special. For sure. The best part of

911
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: being a professional football player outside of the locker room

912
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: that you'll miss, oh man, I mean game day obviously.

913
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's an easy answer, but um, you know,

914
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: there's something about the locker room it ties in. But

915
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: there's something about just selling out and doing everything you

916
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: can to achieve a common goal with your peers. And

917
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: you know that'll that'll correlate the business world and there'll

918
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: be things that are similar or whatever. But for a

919
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: bunch of guys who are have one sole focus and

920
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: that's to win and you know, obviously win a Super Bowl,

921
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: ring and that stuff, but just to win on Sunday, Um,

922
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: you feel like you're a part of something bigger. You

923
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: feel like you're a part of You have a motive,

924
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: you have a you have a motive, you have a

925
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: you have a purpose, and you have a goal and

926
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: you can't do it alone. You can't do it by yourself.

927
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's such an amazing feeling, a

928
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: fulfilling feeling when you're doing your part to be successful

929
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: on Sundays. And those are those are small things that

930
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: that just like we talked about earlier, you just there's

931
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: no replication for that. You just can't. What are you

932
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: most proud out of in your football career? Oh man,

933
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: on the field whatever, I'm just I'm I'm most proud

934
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: of um, of of the way that I think people

935
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: receive me and they how they how they feel that

936
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: I conducted myself off the field. I loved being out

937
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: in the community. I love doing stuff on Tuesday to

938
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: love going to the hospital, and I love you know,

939
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: seeing all that. Those those are things that you know,

940
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: I will reach out now that I'm back in town

941
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: and try to get involved in again. UM on the field,

942
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, just just you know, succeeding seeing seeing um

943
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: all the hard work payoff, you know, being able to

944
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: set goals and expectations for myself. UM, you know, coming

945
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: from a small town in the in the middle of

946
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, Montana and being able to, uh, you know,

947
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: accomplish tiny goals along the way to ultimately achieve this

948
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: greater success and and never never, never going. I didn't.

949
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I didn't start as a walk on and go I'm

950
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: gonna be a pro bowler. That's what I want to do.

951
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, shoot, I just want to make this team

952
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: this year. And that's how I started when I got drafted. Here.

953
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the goal of a late seventh ter

954
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: on draft pick? Is to make the team? You know,

955
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: to be to be great, to be able to be

956
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: a part of of the game plan on Sunday, and

957
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: so to been able to set those goals and to

958
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: achieve them. Those are what I'm proud of on the field.

959
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: To be able to overcome some odds that you know,

960
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I've I've gotten to There were a lot of people better,

961
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, more athletic, bigger, faster, stronger, but you got

962
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: to put it all together sometimes and be given the

963
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: right opportunity and so um, those those are things that

964
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think when I do get frustrated about

965
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, not not being able to play anymore or

966
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: didn't get the call last year, in those quiet moments

967
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: when you're being able to reflect packed on it, you go,

968
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: all right, you know you have some stuff to be

969
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: proud of. Do you ever see yourself coming back to

970
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: football in some capacity, whether it be as a coach

971
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: or doing some media stuff. Oh? Absolutely, I I miss

972
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: it and I and I definitely think you need a

973
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: break from it, especially um. Like I said, I was

974
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: a little frustrated as a free agent last year, and

975
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I need I needed a little break from it. Um.

976
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: But and then and then the season goes and then

977
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: you know, I still thought I would be a part

978
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: of the twenty seventeen seasons somewhere. And so then when

979
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: the season ended, and then, like I said, I turned

980
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: the switch and hung them up. And then I was like, oh,

981
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: I don't miss it that much. It's fine. And then

982
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: when OTAs kicked back up and the guys are reporting back,

983
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: and I'm living in Nashville now, so I see a

984
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: couple of the dudes and I'm like, all right, I

985
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: missed this game. And I will, I would. I'm gonna

986
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: definitely try to be a part of something. I don't

987
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: know if coaching is in my near future, um, but

988
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, I will, I will

989
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: want to stay a part of it. And and and

990
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, be be around the team and be around

991
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: the guys, and it's uh, like I said, it was

992
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: an honor to be a part of this organization. And

993
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do all I can to be in your

994
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: guys's hair all the time. You're gonna, you're gonna, you're

995
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: gonna see me around just because I can't get enough. Mark,

996
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Mary Anny, you did more than just make the team.

997
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: You made an impression by doing it the right way.

998
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. It's uh, it was an honor.

999
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: It's an honor aware of those colors, and uh, I'm

1000
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: glad to be home. The OTP with Mark Maryanny. Heybe wells.

1001
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Thank you Right, We're back next week with another edition

1002
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: of the Official Titans Podcast.