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I will 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: know he's giving me advice to many occasions. Indication didn't notice. 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald Money Making Conversations. Here 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: we come. My next guest is Kenned for Read. He's 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: a professional basketball player, something I could never do. I 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: always dreamed of being in the league, but all I 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: can do is watch being in the league. He's with 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: the Demon Nuggets, Brooklyn next Houston Rockets. From a span 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: of eight years from twenty eleven to twenty and eighteen. 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: He also will spend time in China. We'll talking about 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: that in part of his interview serial Entrepreneurship is His? 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Is His? His foundation I'd like to talk about. He's 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: the founder of the Kenneth for Reed HAT Foundation, which 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: stands for Humble, Appreciative and Thankful. Kenneth is a video gamer. 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: He stated, I got into gaming because of my dad, 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: and weirdly enough, because of my mom. My mom and 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: dad are both Xbox gamers. He's pretty good at it 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: because at Fortnite and the Charitable Foundation he was able 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: to win two hundred and fifty thousan dollars in prize money, 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: which had to be used for a charitable purpose. He 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: finished second and got two hundred fifty thou dollars, which 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: launched his foundation, the Humble, Appreciative and Thankful Foundation, which 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: stands for HAT. Kennada is definitely more than the athlete. 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Like I teached him about it earlier, because I saw 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: him in the Body issue with ESPN, I guess he's 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: shown a little bit more of his athleticism. Okay, conversation, 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: my man, kenn It free, how you Ken? Thank you? 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm excited. I'm excited to be here. Uh, 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity for me, I just as 60 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: a person and as a man, and to be up 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: here with I mean no other than for Sean. I 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: mean this, this is love right here. Well it is 63 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: love because you know, I always like to bring individuals 64 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: on like you, because you can get stereotyped and and uh, 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, and when I say stereotyping, stereo talking people 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: for being a black man. You can stereotype a tall 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: black man. You can stereotype being an athlete, which can 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: come into play about your intelligence. Come to that's all 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: you can do. How do you deal with I mentioned 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: several I depended being a black man. I've been being 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: a tall person. I've been an athlete. Which one do 72 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: you want to come in first? Being stereotyped because there's 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: three of them. I know you can stereotype though, Well 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: it's only because of course, you know my persona of 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: my hair goes with it. Um people assume is hey, 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: you're tall, You're you're also black. Hunty to be honest, like, 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: you're tall, you're black, You're you got this athletic build 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: about you and your handsome so I'm assuming you you 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: play basketball and football. But yeah, that's pretty much um 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: the stereotype of my whole life. Man. For me, I've 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: been dealing with that and I just take it with 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: a grain of salt. Sometimes I like to play a 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: little games for people like, oh, no, I'm not him, 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm actually play lacross. I'm not that guy. Actually I 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: actually played on soccer. You know, I'm a goalie for 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: Manchester United. But I just like the best with people 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: so tall. But at the same token as a blessing 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: and the curse, you know, you God put you on 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: this earth and gave these blessings and you either you 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: either use them to your advantage or you take it 91 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: as all white me, white me. And I've never been 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: a person who's say why me, always said try me right. 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting because of the fact that 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: you know your athleticism, you'll bill forced you in a direction, 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: and there some words I would apologize. I won't use 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: the word force, but it tends to put you in 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the direction of expectations, you know, like you know, when 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: you when you're a smart person, intelligence isn't isn't isn't 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: written on your face isn't written in your abs, just 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: isn't written in your height. It's just you have to 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: show people that you're intelligent. Do you feel that because 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: of your bill, that you you have to show people 103 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: that you're more than an athlete, that you can do more, 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: that you're capable of achieving things beyond the basketball court. Yeah, 105 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: a hundred percent. Um. But one thing my parents was 106 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: blessed to. I was blessed to. I guess reciprocate when 107 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: they was telling me back in the day, because they 108 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: told me a lot. So it was one thing they 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: always said, to use what you got to your advantage. 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: And I always wonder what they mean by that when 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I was younger. But as I got older and flew 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: into the man I am today, I just understood it 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: more and more. And I'm thirty one today my parents 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: use like I said. I was younger, they told me 115 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot. But now that I'm thirty one and I 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: understood what they meant, Hey, I have a chance here 117 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: just because I'm tall and because I'm black and people 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: see my athleticism and all that stuff. To use that 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: to my advantage. So I went to more Head State. Yeah, 120 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: everybody expecting me not even make it to the NBA. 121 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: But I use it to my advantage. I said, hey, 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm here, I might as well keep going graduate, get 123 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: my education, show other people in my family. Not just 124 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: like I didn't really care about the outside world in 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: the sense of the public thought about me. I only 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: cared about my family and what they thought. And it was, Hey, 127 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: I want to show my family and have a eleven 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: year old now I had her my junior in college 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: named Kira On Free. I want to show her. Hey, 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: just because daddy is in the n b A, he 131 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't graduate, get your degree, become that 132 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: that pillar of foundation from your family, from not just 133 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: a financial aspect, but a mental aspect, because you have 134 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: to be intelligent with the money. You can't just have 135 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: it and go, Okay, I got money, spend it foolers. Free, 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh get this person to house, get this person to car, 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. No, you gotta understand that, Hey, 138 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: that wealth last you for that amount of time. Right 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: then and there, You're making that much money because you're 140 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: because of your talents and athleticism. But what are you 141 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: going to do after? Right? Right? But you know it's interesting, Kennon, 142 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: because you know, I've been fortunate in my life, you know, 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: because when you're in entertainment, it's kind of like athleticism. 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: Income can come in and large amounts, and sometimes you 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: don't know what to do with that large amount. And 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it comes like, oh, I just get this, you know, 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: I just leased this, you know, and but you don't 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: think any thing of it, because guess what, You're able 149 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: to buy it. You're able to purchase, You're able to 150 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: live that lifestyle. But then, like you said earlier in 151 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: your conversation, is about longevity because you're not on the 152 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: play forever and that big check needs to need to 153 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: go down the line at least twenty thirty years. That's 154 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: the process, you know. But you're a young guy. You're 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: thirty one now. Now this is where athleticism and then 156 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: longevity comes into play, because I know when I was 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: a team, thirty was a long railway. Forty I could 158 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: even imagine forty fifty. Come on, dude, really you're talking 159 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: about So we did the process of being thirty one 160 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: and become a reality to you. Um, it just became 161 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: a reality this I mean, it's COVID pandemic hit, you know. Um, 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: for me, I was in my twenties and the NBA 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: enjoying life, having fun. By the same token, just making 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: a little smart investments here and there, like my manumal 165 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Elite that's where I'm wearing right now and shirt my 166 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: AU team made an investment in that, and that's through 167 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: the like you said earlier, Kenning Free Hat Foundation. So 168 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: it was a blessing to be able to have that 169 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: on my I guess, a patch on my shoulder, like, hey, 170 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: this is something I've done, this is something I build 171 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: in Now, I guess h I believe it's nine years later, Yeah, 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: nine years later, but to be ten years next summer. 173 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Nine years later, I still have it up and running 174 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: every The kids are un tremendous job of promoting the brand, 175 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: being part of the brand and really understanding what the 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: brand means. And that's just being a hat, being humble, 177 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: appreciate and thankful. And that's my biggest I guess, my 178 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: biggest chip on my shoulder. I always been humble, appreciate 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and thankful for anything. Really, really you've been You've been humble? 180 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Now you could, I could. I gotta stop you that. 181 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: If anybody just to start just just google the body 182 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: issue Okay, definitely got to stop him on his humble talk. 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: See I know for a fact, I know for a fact. 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: See I wouldn't even gonna go there. But he keeps 185 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: throwing out the word humble. But you know I'm humble. 186 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm humble, I'm humble. Uh So how does that? Because 187 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm just having fun with you, Cannon, because I love 188 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: you to death. Man, we're talking about Well, I gotta 189 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: be able to slide this into the conversation because you 190 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: did it. You didn't, I didn't. I didn't force you 191 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: to do it. Nobody told you. Hey man, you wouldn't 192 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: be naked. And then how some people put some hot 193 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: little basketball on certain parts of your body and you 194 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: jump up and down and we will put in the 195 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: magazine how how that sounded? Was that a hard pitch, Cannon? 196 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: Or was that a picture? You just? Oh, I got 197 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: this covered? You saw earlier dishes? You go, man, why 198 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: they ain't picked me yet? How I talk about that 199 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: whole journey that, Kenny, Because see I know you did 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: some again. You're in NBA, somebod I can never do 201 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: you in the body issue again. Something I can never do, 202 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: but talk about your humbleness in doing the body issue 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: of ESPN. Okay, well, I guess it's not. I guess 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm so confused, right, it's hard to say, 205 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. I went out there. It was funny because 206 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: my my rookie year in the league. Basically I saw 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: the body issue and I saw ESPN. I saw the 208 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: SPS Awards, and I saw all that beautiful stuff, and 209 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: I said, hey, that's the body issue, and whoa, these 210 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: people are really naked. I love to be naked. I 211 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: love to be free. I want to do that. It 212 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: looks like all right, So I didn't think of it 213 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: as Okay, you have to be naked and your body 214 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: be basically showing all your stuff off. 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You did, 263 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Kenny f Read you know, uh, but it isn't a 264 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: good way because it's part of your brand, you know, 265 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: because you know, Lord knows, you know, you're using your 266 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: second year. So I know the players on the court 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: gave you a hard time. I find a hard time 268 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: about that when they were guarding you and all that 269 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: stuff and warm ups and all that stuff. So I 270 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: know they've taken care of you. But what I love 271 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: about you, man, is that there is a position that 272 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: people do in life where they stopped themselves. They say 273 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: they don't want to do something, They worry about what 274 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: people think and and it's but it's all part of 275 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: a brand build, you know, as part of your personnel. 276 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Like you said, you know, you're tall, you're black, your hairstyle, 277 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: you're a good looking guy. So that's part of being 278 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: a I think it's just like being a model. You know, 279 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: you are you. You can't be a model, you know, 280 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: and that there's no doubt in my mind. But that's 281 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: that's physical, you know. You know the thing about being physical, 282 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: there's always a time living on being physical. And so 283 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: that's what we said right now, you know, because of 284 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: COVID and you went over to China, and and that 285 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: to extend your basketball career, because I guess what they 286 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: write nice checks over in China by the way, y'all okay, 287 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: and uh and so and so. Now you're back at 288 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: home right now. What is it from a physical standpoint? 289 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Do you stand with your career? I know you still 290 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: stand in shape. Is a stand in shape to continue 291 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a basketball career or you're ready to move on? Um? 292 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm standing in shape because I want to get back 293 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: into the NBA. UM. I'm pushing myself and doing things 294 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: that pretty much got me there and just standing focused 295 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: like that and not letting the outside distracts. And UM, 296 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: I have fun in my twenties pretty much. And it 297 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: was it was nice, you know, I enjoyed it. Me 298 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: going over to China was also a blessing. Um, most people, 299 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: we wouldn't see that as that because of the fact 300 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: that it did kind of stop me from going to 301 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: the NBA with the bubble and everything. It kind of 302 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: holding me from that decision, even though I got out 303 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: of it early. But COVID protocols and the way he 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: was setting up things that just wasn't letting fever players in. 305 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: So I just respected that and had to respect it. 306 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: And I just put my acts pretty much to the 307 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: ground and showed everybody why they called me manimal and 308 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: why everybody say, hey, this kid never stopped working. He's 309 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: a worker, he's he's this, he's that. He give it 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: his all every time you step on the court. And 311 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: that's truly who I am. And I just wanted to 312 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: show everybody that and remind everybody that, and slowly but 313 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: surely people want to see it. People are going to 314 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: see it. Well, I have no doubt about it. But 315 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you've always been had a life where you know, you 316 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: want to find start athletes coming out of high school. 317 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: You know you more head stayed, you finished your career 318 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: as at all time rebounding broke. I think Tim Duncan's 319 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: record all times rebounds and so but along with that, 320 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: it's like you don't let what people think. And I 321 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: gess that's that's the core my interview with you cannot 322 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: because you know, not letting people put you in the box, 323 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: letting letting people limit you based on your capabilities. What 324 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: drives you, is that what was instilled in you by 325 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: your parents that drives you, or just a natural level 326 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: of competition that drives you. It's it's honestly both um. 327 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: My father would my father would say when I was younger, 328 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: I would do things here, do things in the house 329 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: with me. Man, he saw me doing in the house 330 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: with me, and I just do it. Listen, listen to 331 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: them and pay attention. And I probably get frustrated, like, 332 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: don't doing this with you every day? But it was 333 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: it was my dad. And as to say, it's token, 334 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: it would translate to hey, my cousins will come over 335 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: and I would instantly tell them, Hey, we're waking up 336 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: in the morning, we're gonna work out. Hey, when you 337 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: get up in the morning, I don't want to hear 338 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: you complaining about like while we're getting up this early, 339 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: like we're working. And then it turned to my father 340 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: just no new every time around my cousin, YO, come on, push. 341 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: I was pushing my cousins just as much as my 342 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: father would say, Hey, you got it, you got this, son, 343 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: just give it your best. But it was it was 344 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: never my father was never as a forcing me to 345 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: do it. He was always telling me, hey, son, I'm 346 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: telling you didn't do this to work out, keep your 347 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: body and shape, because just you need it for life. 348 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: It's not because hey, you want to be this superstar 349 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: basketball player. Is that A third? No, you need to 350 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: just have your body and shape and ready for whatever. 351 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: For life and your mind. It's gonna help your body. 352 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: Your body and mind will help each other. If you 353 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: work your body and you work your mind, they're gonna 354 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: come hand to hand. So you can think. You can 355 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: think on a go. It's gonna help you for basketball later. 356 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: You want to be an NBA player, that's what you 357 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: keep telling me. So you gotta sharp not just your body. 358 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: You have to sharpen your mind. So I would wake 359 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: up with my cousins when they was there, tell them 360 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: come on his work out. I'm all hype. My father 361 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: didn't really have to bring the energy. Then afterwards I'm like, hey, 362 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: I gotta do crossword puzzles. But it wasn't crossword puzzles 363 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: like your typical Hey, you know, kids get to find 364 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: the word. It's kind The third no, I had to 365 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: look at the cross word, look at the words on 366 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: the side and read them, read the words and know 367 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: how to spell the words, then know the meaning and 368 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: definition of the word. Didn't put the same words in 369 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: a sentence right. That drove me to go. You know what, 370 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: when I got to college, I want to do speech communications. Absolutely. 371 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: You know the interesting thing about we hit that a 372 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: lot like you were at the beginning to the end 373 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: of y'all say I wanted to be an NB and 374 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: then of course what and you you. I want to 375 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: say this real clean because it's a compliment to individual 376 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: who I encounter like you, who are living a dream 377 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: that we watch on television. We admire the accomplishment. There's 378 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: a limited roster space. There are guys in the G 379 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: League who are trying to get in there. There are 380 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: guys who are not in the league trying to get 381 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: in there. What made you or what enabled you to 382 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: reach your dream of being and able to play in 383 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: the NBA Kenne for reed Um, the motivation of, like 384 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: I said, my parents, Honestly, my dad, I'm pushing himself 385 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: going to the way we lived in He lived in 386 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: Geersey City, but every day from Monday to Friday, he 387 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: worked for the Union and New York. He will catch 388 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: the train, wake up dumb early in the morning just 389 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: to catch the train to go all the way to 390 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: New York to be at work at eight o'clock in 391 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: the morning. And we'll work from eight o'clock all the 392 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: way to I don't know, like five, sometimes her six. 393 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: But we're working doing painting jobs for the buildings that 394 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: they were constructing. He helped hang sheet rock and do 395 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: all that stuff and hat it was. But he did 396 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: gose construction work. His main thing was painting, but he 397 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: learned the construction part of it in order to make 398 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: sure he did was able to build other things later 399 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: in life and hand do other things at his own 400 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: house that he owned at the time. So it was 401 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: just amazing to watch him do that. Then my mom, uh, 402 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: like she just been a battle in my whole life. 403 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: She she got lupus when I was really young, and 404 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: ever since then it's been like a fight for her 405 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: to survive and just see me grow into the man 406 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: I am today. And I've always said, hey, every rebound 407 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: that I get in my life, I'm hoping and praying 408 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: that it just goes towards my mom another day, towards 409 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: her life. That's it. Just another day and not even 410 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: a week or a month. And I just went it 411 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: made me go after every rebound that same way, because 412 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: every time I'm out there on the court, her mom 413 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: was just yell at me. Nor, that's your house. Nor 414 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: nor just my nickname. I member name is Bernard. So 415 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: she my father was Bernard. She right right. No, you 416 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: better go out there, get that rebound. Stop playing. No, 417 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: that's your house. Don't let nobody get no rebounds, get 418 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: shoot no shots at your house. You better go in 419 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: there and block that shot, rebound the ball, and run 420 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: the floor. So I mean my career. Look at your 421 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: children's eyes to see the true magic of a forest. 422 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: It's a storybook world for them. You look and see 423 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: a tree, They see the wrinkled face of a wizard 424 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: with arms outstretched to the sky. They see treasuring pebbles, 425 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: They see a windy path that could lead to adventure, 426 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: and they see you. They're fearless. Guide. 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You 443 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: gotta be extra careful with things like burning yard wide. 444 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: After all, wildfires can start anywhere, even in your neck 445 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: of the woods. Go to Smokey Bear dot com to 446 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: learn more about wildfire prevention. Brought to you by the U. S. 447 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: Forest Service, your state Forester, and the ad Council is there. 448 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: It's this time to you know, try to just try 449 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: to you know, we always talk about motivation. We always 450 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: talking about somebody is still in a constant, constant montral 451 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: into your mindset and if you keep hearing. I always 452 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: tell people, especially with children, if children here negative, then 453 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: they will live a life of negativity. If a children 454 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: in your situation. They kept telling you what you could 455 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: do and what you could not do. And that's what 456 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: I hear. Let's keep keep screaming out of this conversation 457 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: and screaming out in a good way, you know. And 458 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: when I talk about you being more than an athlete, 459 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: we gotta go over to the gaming and and I'm 460 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: abouna just tell you this nord you know, is that 461 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: you know black people, they're gonna give your nickname, my nickname, 462 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: Ricky okay, So you don't say I gotta call you 463 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: know okay okay. And so when when I look at 464 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: look at in ninety I would I was as that 465 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: could producing of the Jamie Foxx Show. And I was 466 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: in the writer's room and they had a game on. 467 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: They had a video game on gaming on and they 468 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: they they and I sat down and I went, let 469 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: me play and then they handed me something. I want 470 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: to say something because fear into me because they got 471 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: next to me. Was able to flip, he was able 472 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: to kick, he was to spend, he was able to 473 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: blow torches. Right then I realized I can't do this. 474 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: So the ability to be able to manipulate these games 475 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: and play basketball, play football, to play Fortnite. Talk about 476 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: that journey of developing these talents, these skills as a 477 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: game gaming pro, talk about it. Honestly, it's just my 478 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: way of escape me from my environment. I grew up. 479 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: I grew up in the hood. Like I mean, like 480 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: the typical hood story. Hey, this kid came from nothing 481 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: and he he didn't have no finance, you backing, or 482 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 1: real wealth and he still made it out. I mean, 483 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: that's that's typically what you're here nowadays. And typically us 484 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: black people are the odds that were half to face 485 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: every day. So for me, it was either hey, the 486 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: streets is calling you. You live right across the street, 487 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: well right across street from a park where a lot 488 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: of murders happened, a lot of dead bodies happen. Then 489 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: hey you right there, you live right down I mean 490 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: right upstairs from where they sell drugs out at the 491 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: corner store. Right there, you live right upstairs from that. 492 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: So and then all these game members, Hey, you got 493 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: crips and bloods all in your building, and they all 494 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: wanted you to join in. Hey represent us, represent us, 495 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Hey you you're part of us. We're gonna protect you 496 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: and make sure that we got your back, and but 497 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: my foundation was what kept me from going there. My mom, No, 498 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: you can't go outside, my dad. Now, that's not that, 499 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: that's not the environment for you. You don't need to 500 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: be there. So what has the kid to do? Okay, 501 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: it's snowing, it's raining. You can't go outside and go 502 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: to the park like I usually do. I usually go 503 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: to week Way Park, go up the street with the 504 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: courts hat and I'm playing there. Then I come back home. 505 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm dead tired. Dank shirt was white now was black. 506 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: But you know, you gotta get it in. You gotta hustle. 507 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: It's raining, snowing outside. What else is there to do? 508 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: You can't like, you don't have the accessibility of a 509 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: gym because you can't afford that. You can't afford to 510 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: go to a gym, you can't afford to have a 511 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: gym membership. So you play video games. You sit back 512 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: and imagine, Hey, this is a world that's outside of 513 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: the my outside world can be like, or this is 514 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: a world where my life can be like. So I 515 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: got into playing. Back then, it wasn't matt and it 516 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: was Game Day. Absolutely. Back then, it wasn't two K. 517 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: It was Inbay Live so I was playing NBA Live. 518 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: It was playing mad I was my own excuse me. 519 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: I was playing Game Day. Then I was playing Resident Evil. 520 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: I was playing Uh. I was playing Hey. I sat 521 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: in my environment my father, and I'm telling me, hey, 522 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: this this game because games didn't have no ratings back then, 523 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: right brand that far though, playing that, I'm like, hey, 524 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: this is where I live at. I could I could 525 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: be the person that's doing all the negative stuff and 526 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff that's not supposed to be, like that's 527 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: gonna get you locked up and not on the right path. 528 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I can be this person on the game. So hey, 529 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: let mis stick to this. And okay, hey, it's not 530 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: just my parents make me play video games. Hey, you 531 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: gotta read these books and do this stuff too. So 532 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: it was okay, I could read these books real quick, 533 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: do all this stuff, do all these words, keep learning, 534 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: keep expanding my brain. Then or let me go overhead 535 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: to these video games because I don't want to think 536 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: about the outside world and what's really going on and 537 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: the negativity. I want to think positive and I feel 538 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: like I can control stuff. And that's what it does 539 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: is a control thing. Well, you know the thing about 540 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: it when you when I look at you. First of all, 541 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the humbleness, which is part of half foundations 542 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: narrative being appreciative. I hear that in that interview. I 543 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: hear the word thankful in that interview. You know you 544 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you do represent that. And then you represented all phases 545 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: of HAT in this interview, and I think that would 546 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: that being the foundation. How does your foundation work, who 547 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: you're focusing on helping with your HAT foundation, and what's 548 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: the future of HAT. Well, hopefully the future of HACK 549 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: can be expanded to many of states. Sir um. Just 550 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: it's just basically the health that you. It's healthy you 551 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: through programming and not programming of of oh like, hey 552 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: you gotta do this, listen to this and be this 553 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: type of person. No, it's programming of having fun and 554 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: enjoying it, understanding that your knowledge can get you further 555 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: than your athletic abilities ever can, because hey, at the 556 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: end of the day, yeah, you can play hard and 557 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: do everything possible to try to make it to that 558 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: next level of the NBA or overseas, but it may 559 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: not pan out for you, or injury maybe happen. What 560 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: we want to make sure that you've got a scholarship, 561 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: and not just any scholarship, but four years scholarship to 562 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: a D one school to get your education first, because 563 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: that's what we care about here and have foundation and 564 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: it it's about your education, about you going to that 565 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: next level of education, about you graduate in high school 566 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: a better person, not just man, not just female, because 567 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: we have manually lead boys, we have man and lead girls. 568 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: Just a man or a female being a better overall 569 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: person going out there feeling is confident as you were 570 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: on the court, but in the classroom or just in 571 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: the dorms, because at the end of the day, the 572 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: whole objective is to get you to D one so 573 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: you can make the world a better place and have 574 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: a full ride in your parents. Don't don't have to 575 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: worry about Nothing I gotta do is worry about whole 576 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I got a little bit of money, I can come 577 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: see you, or hey, we got a little bit of money, 578 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: you could come see me. And that's what my parents 579 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: had to worry about. And that's what I believe that 580 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: the youth should be able to pretty much having their 581 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: hands with the proper lane, with the proper opportunity, and 582 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: that's what hats all about. Giving you the proper opportunity. 583 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: I know that I come from an inner city, six usters, 584 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: two brothers, so I know about what you're talking about. 585 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't when I grew up. I didn't 586 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: have video games. You know. I just I always tell people, 587 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, when we moved to a better neighborhood, but 588 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: it was the same black people. It was the same experience. 589 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: When I walked outside that door, it was just a 590 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: little bit better. And that was just my parents desire 591 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: just to give us a little bit better, to seek 592 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: a little bit better opportunity because they saw there were 593 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: opportunities out there. And when I look at your skill set. 594 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: I have Rick Fox on the show and he was 595 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: talking about he owned a gaming leave part of the 596 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: Gaming League, and he owned a game team, a team, 597 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: and he was just talking about the value of these teams. Now, 598 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: I know you wanted fourth, Now you won this second place. 599 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: Where does the future hold for you in that whole 600 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: Fortnight and the whole gaming industry? Or you're gonna be 601 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: built part of are You're gonna own a team, We're 602 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna be part of the league. What does it take you? 603 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Kenneth for Reid a k A. Nord Well that's what 604 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: we're building it right now. Uh. Like I said, I 605 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: see the future in the youth, and the half Foundation 606 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: is kind of that. I'm looking for people to help 607 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: give back and not just because it's Kenneth Free's hat. Yeah, 608 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: but it's not for me. I don't see it. Don 609 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: from it on. Anything I'm doing is just giving it 610 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: back to the kids. Everything I that's everything I'm about. 611 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: I have five kids of my own, three boys, two girls, 612 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: So for me is hey, I'm building them to understand 613 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: that you gotta work your tell off to reach your 614 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: goals back the same token, make louse, make impact in 615 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: the world, don't just be a person who, oh make 616 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: their dreams come to all the other stuff and like 617 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: I want to isolate myself from everybody. No give back, 618 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: the build, continue to be a great person. Build your 619 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: your name in the history books as Hey, tire Free 620 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: did this, Kinsey Free did this the third, Kinneth because 621 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: I have a like I said, my son, so the third, 622 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: he's the third. I'm the second as the first, Hey 623 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: the third, like, you got the name, so you got it? 624 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: You better so and then you know Kena and tie 625 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: in there of course them yo y'all just because your 626 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: brother got the name on me, y'all can't do the 627 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: same thing. Y'all boys, all, y'all boys, y'all go. But 628 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: for me, I'm more so on my girls than anything, 629 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: because yo, y'all little girls. Everybody looking for y'all to 630 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: be black little girls who just look for handouts and 631 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: marry athletes or whatever. Then oh, just have plenty of 632 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: baby like baby fathers or whatever. No, you're gonna be 633 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: better than this. You're gonna be smart, educated. You Google 634 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: be a doctor, you can will be a nurse, you 635 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: google will be freaking astronaut, anything in this world. But 636 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be educated for sure, and then you're 637 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: gonna have the you're gonna be tossed. 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