1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Warning today's episode con taste spoilers for the first terrifying 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: chapter of uzer Markie on Adult Swim. 3 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Rosie. 4 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: Knight and I am Joel and welcome back to a 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: spooky edition of Xtra Visi, the podcast where we dive 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: We are here at Iart Podcasts where we're bringing you 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: two episodes a week, every single week Tuesday and Thursday, 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: and sometimes even get a special little extra. 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Episode Look at you, guys, So Lucky, So Lucky. 11 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: In today's delightful and terrifying episode, we are digging into 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: the previously on where from his fur Cobble is having 13 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: a terrible time with the Megalopolis box office and super 14 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: producer Aaron tags in to walk us through all the 15 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: magic the gathering scandal that broke this weekend. 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: In the airlock, we will be Uzi. 17 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: Mackieing it up as the long awaited five years in 18 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: the making anime adaptation of Jungi Itto hits Adult Swim 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: dub or sub what do you Like? 20 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it, but. 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: First it's the previously on in the box office Francis 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: for couple is one hundred and twenty million dollar investment 23 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: in himself has crumbled four million this week. 24 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: You can saw it coming? Who could ever have seen 25 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: it coming? 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: And The Wild Robot Lands at number one with thirty 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: five million. That delightful book adapt that delightful film actually 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: adapts a very very pot Pela Kids book series by 29 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Peter Brown. 30 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: And I am seeing the reporting. 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: Saying, oh, this is a surprise hit for dream Works. 32 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: You know, people didn't know it was going to make 33 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: this much money. I had a feeling it's like one 34 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: hundred percent on Morong Tomorrow's the Books. 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 4: It's a beautiful animated film based off of a popular 36 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: book series, and it appeals to children at all ages, 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: which there's no competition really. Oh there's no big kids 38 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: movie out right now. Those movies always at the very 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: least make their box office back mm hmmm. 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: And I think my gut says this one could run 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: till Christmas, so very interesting. 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: That would be a very long run. 44 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: I think it could do it. 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: I think it's got the legs because it's a family 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 3: based movie. It's about adoption, it's about found family, it's 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: about AI. I think there's a lot there and it 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: does look absolutely beautiful. I haven't seen it yet, but 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: I have read the books. 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: Cion Skate continuing to struggle with megal. Oh my gosh, 51 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: they got into fifteen hundred screens, I think, which is 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 4: a lot, especially considering there's a whole part that requires 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: a performer, although I think do they say they wound up? 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 5: Okay? 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: Out how the mind? I'm gonna tell you. 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: So this was one of the biggest conversations that we 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: were all having in the lead up to this movie. 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: When this movie debut at can it was revealed that 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: there is a segment where Adam Driver talks to a 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: member of the audience who gets up and asks him questions. 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: I have heard very mixed reviews on it. Apparently there 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: is a lot of lead in time, it can be 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: quite awkward, and it's not clear whether the person is 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: actually reading the lines or if it's pre recorded audio. 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: So it's a lot. 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: But I did find out that they are only doing 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: that at certain screenings called ultimate editions, and it seems 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: like they are at least hiring actors to go in 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: and do those segments in the movie. Whereas my joke 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: had been and it was very serious joke honestly that 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: they will probably just pull up a kid from like 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: a popcorn stand and make them do it, because I've 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: worked in a cinema and they do make you do 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: unnecessary stuff. 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: But you know what, this is not worked out. 76 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: The Ultimate Edition at the Imax has clearly not been 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: drawing people in. I have seen many funny, hilarious tweets 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: about it, though, which have been giving me life. Like 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: I saw someone who said a perfect tonal amalgamation of 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: my two favorite movies, Citizen Kane and Revenge of the Sith, 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: and I just think any movie that can be described 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: that way, I have to tell you I am gonna 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: go and see it just because I love a disaster 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: and this sounds like a disaster. 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: I know. 86 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: Usually on this podcast we always try and be positive, 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: but the reporting that has come out about the way 88 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: Francis for Coppola has treated extras on this set, I 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: don't know that we necessarily have to keep our usually 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: positive vibes. But some people I deeply respect have given 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: it five stars on Letterboxed have felt like it's actually 92 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: quite a great treatise on this kind of era we're in, 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: of the creative versus the corporate but I will have 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: to go and see it myself, and I'm sure we 95 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: will report back to you. But yeah, not going well 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: for old Francis Ford Coppola. 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: In art going well right exactly. 98 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: This is actually a huge win for the average man, 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: the average man on the street, the average the average 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: lady going about her business, the average They them attempting 101 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: to just do a little shopping around, write a little comic. 102 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: So Marvel and DC have long held a joint trademark 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: for the word superhero. It's superhero has one word and 104 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: superhero as two words. It's been very controversial for a 105 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: very long time. My husband Nick, he loves to talk 106 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: about it. You can go back for years on the internet, 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: and he has been claiming that this is basically unprotectable 108 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: because it is so generic at this point. 109 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: And what happened, incredibly is that a man named s. J. 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: Rich Hold, who owns a company called super Baby's Limited, 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: which releases superhero baby comics. DC came after him and said, hey, 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: you can't use super babies, which was a reach first 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: of all, and they shouldn't have done it, but they did, 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: and he tried to secure the super Baby's trademark in 115 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: the US, DC was not having it, but Marvel and 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: DC did not respond to the challenge by the deadline. 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh and so what happened is that the US Department 118 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: of Trademark, like the US Office of Trademarks, they actually 119 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: just released the trademark and we're like, fine, we're canceling 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: the trademarks. So this is not like a Supreme Court 121 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: like they can appeal it thing. 122 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: It's been released. So this is a huge. 123 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: Deal and it's gonna be very interesting to see what 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: happens next because Marvel and DC like own it in 125 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: capitals still and they also owned super Villain, which was 126 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: a nineteen eighty five trademark as long as it has a. 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: Dash in the middle. But this is huge. They have 128 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: long been. 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: Going after people who use the word superhero in titles. 130 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: You can use it within a story, but you cannot 131 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: like name your thing like Rosy and Joel's Superhero Adventure, 132 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: Like they could come after us and say, just infringes 133 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: on our trademark. 134 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: Nobody thinks of superhero and there's exclusively like oh, that's 135 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 4: Marvel or DC. And also, like I was seeing people 136 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: were pulling up old comic book like newsletter spaces yep, 137 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: and they were like, yeah, so. 138 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: Pre Superman exactly. Well, this is actually the most superhero 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: So this is this. 140 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Is the most interesting thing is that the first place 141 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: that they ever found superheroes was, as you said in 142 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: the letters pages, I believe it was of of Science 143 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: Fiction magazine. Nick is like desperate to get this issue 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: where a guy basically wrote in and critically was like, 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: you're not doing enough. Fancy, you're not doing enough, you know, 146 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: genre stories. You're going into these kind of bobbleheaded, nonsense 147 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: superhero stories. And that is like the first time it's 148 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: in text. So it's not even something Marvel and DC 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 3: came up with. It was something they trademarked after the fact, 150 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: when fans had come up with this term like so 151 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: much that Marvel and DC do the fans I've always 152 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: been driving that conversation. 153 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, this was really funny. I actually should have recorded. 154 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: I was joking with my friend Mark, who sent this over, 155 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: who's a brilliant cartoonist, Mark Martinez, and he sent it 156 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: to me and I said, oh my god, I should 157 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: film Nick when I tell him this, But I didn't 158 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: do it, Like I was joking, but Nick's face was 159 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: literally I should have filmed it. He was like so happy. 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: This was the best news for him. It is great 161 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: news for indie comics creators everywhere. And I'm very interested 162 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: to see what happens next because we know that Marvel 163 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: and DC are very litigious, so the fact they didn't 164 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: chase this down and kind of respond to the challenge 165 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: in time is very interesting to me. So I'm intrigued 166 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: to see what happens next. And that wasn't the only 167 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: controversy that was occurring this weekend in fandom spaces. So 168 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to tap in on Magic the Gathering correspondent 169 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: and super producer Aaron wang Kaufman to tell us about 170 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: the latest Magic the Gathering scandal. 171 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: Hello, Rosie and Joel, And speaking of this is I 172 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: prepped this transition, so it's a little dated now. But 173 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 5: speaking of super babies, let's let's get into the drama 174 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 5: around Magic the Gathering this past week and then escalating 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: into this weekend and Monday, September thirtieth. So, Magic the 176 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: Gathering is a collectible card game for those of you 177 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 5: who don't know. When you build a deck of forty 178 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 5: to sixty cards and you play against each other and 179 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 5: you cast spells and create creatures and it's a lot 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: of fun. It's something many of us played when we 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: were kids. Maybe my video is not on, but I 182 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 5: have my magic cards on the bookshelf behind me at 183 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: all times as like part of my video background. And 184 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 5: there's a newer format, not particularly new. It actually started 185 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 5: long time ago, but it's grown in popularity called Commander 186 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 5: and Commander has become the main way people playing magic, 187 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 5: and like people start playing magic with Commander, they're introduced 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 5: to it through that, and it's really become the most 189 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: popular thing. And there is the founding member. Sheldon Menery 190 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 5: is the founding founding member of the Commander rules Committee 191 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: who passed away not too long ago, and he was 192 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: like an iconic person within the Magic and Commander space. Well, 193 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 5: last Monday, Wizards of the Coast, who publishes Magic and 194 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: does Dodgers and Dragons as well, they banned four cards 195 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 5: from Commander, Dockside Extortionists, Jeweled Lotus, Manicrypt, and Nado Winged 196 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: Wisdom and so these cards were all very high level cards, 197 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 5: high power. So the reason they're getting rid of them 198 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: is like it creates a less fun play environment if 199 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: I have one of these overpowered cards and you don't, 200 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: and I get started really quickly, like the game could 201 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 5: be over within a few turns. Interesting, and it caused 202 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: a ton of pushback because magic is is a game, 203 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: but it also has a collectible aspect to it. And 204 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: so some of these cards, most notably you know, like 205 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 5: Man Crypt, Jeweled Lotus, These are very expensive cards, and 206 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: as soon as they got banned, the price plummeted, and 207 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 5: so people were pissed because they're like, I have like 208 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: spent all this money buying these cards because they're a 209 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 5: quote unquote investment, and now Wizards of the Cost comes 210 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 5: in and bans them, and I've lost all this money. 211 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: Whether or not you should be using Magic the gathering 212 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 5: as an investment is a discussion for something else entirely. 213 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we live. 214 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: In a speculative space with both comics and magic, and 215 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: everyone knows how I feel about speculation. Bad, Yeah, Karon, Like, 216 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: what is what is your read on this? Like your 217 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: subjective read if you don't mind giving it. 218 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 5: Well, so the story isn't done, Rosie. So they they 219 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 5: banned these cards, and then the Rules Committee, which is 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: a group of volunteers who are very prominent in the 221 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: magic space who advise Wizards of the Coast on things 222 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 5: to do. They were consulted on this, and it seems 223 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 5: like pretty much universally the Rules Committee was like, you 224 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 5: shouldn't do these bands, and Wizards of the Coast still did. 225 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 5: Then Josh lee Qui, who is one of the most 226 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: popular Commander content creators. He works for the Command Zone, 227 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 5: it's a YouTube channel, he resigned from the Rules Committee 228 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: last week. Rules Committee members were getting death threats and 229 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 5: like in particular the female members, you know, in particular, 230 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 5: getting really horrible notes and things sent to them. And 231 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: so today Monday, September thirtieth, Wizards of the Coast announced 232 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 5: that the entire Rules Committee is resigning and Wizards of 233 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 5: the Coast will take everything in house. This is kind 234 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 5: of a worst case scenario, I think as a magic player, 235 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: because you have the basically you've just given everything back 236 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 5: to the corporation. I mean, the corporation clearly was in 237 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: charge anyways, but we had some people who were dedicated 238 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: to the playing part of it and the social aspect 239 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: who are advising them, and now they're just gone. Because 240 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: the fandom was so horrible and we're making death threats 241 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: towards people who didn't who didn't want this to happen 242 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 5: in a really embarrassing way for things to go. 243 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds terrible. And also this is like this 244 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: seems kind of on brand right now for Wizards of 245 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: the Coast because they had a similar kind of issue 246 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: earlier this year, right where it was like they were. 247 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: Trying to ban home brews or something, or they were 248 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: trying to, like with Dungeon and Drags, they were trying 249 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: to take ip that people had created in homebrews and said, 250 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: if you create this homebrew, we own it. 251 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: If you create. 252 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: Anything within these spaces, we own it. That was a 253 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: huge backlash to that, and they ended up having to 254 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: go back on it. 255 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: But it sounds like that kind of. 256 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: Corporate over meddling is becoming an issue for them. 257 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's been a good and bad to it. 258 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: So part of it is Wizards of the Coast was 259 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: purchased by Hasbro and so like big shareholder pressure now. 260 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 5: And I remember as a kid when I first played Magic, 261 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: I think it was like two or three sets came 262 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: out a year, and now it feels like there's a 263 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 5: new set every month of cards, and part of that 264 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: is they have a really profitable set called Universes Beyond, 265 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 5: which is a crossover with other things. So, yes, they 266 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: had this Lord of the Ring set that was incredible 267 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: and brought in so many new players. 268 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: They also had. 269 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: Fallout, Wow, they had Doctor Who, Assassin's they have there, 270 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: there's a Marvel one coming potentially next year if not, 271 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: you know. So there's a lot of space for these, 272 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: you know, sort of crossovers to new audiences and new 273 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: players of the game and new collectors too. But a 274 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 5: lot of people are really upset with how quickly they're 275 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 5: churning out stuff that maybe isn't getting enough play testing 276 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: and enough thought ahead of time to be like this 277 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 5: card was always going to be too broken. Why would 278 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: you publish this? Why? Why you know, couldn't you see 279 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 5: that this would make things unfair? So it is it's 280 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 5: like the curse of more. We're getting too many cards. 281 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: And Commander is in some ways like the most casual 282 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: format because it started off with like, here are these 283 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: cards that I'm never going to put in a competitive deck. 284 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: I'm going to do this silly thing, like my deck 285 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: is all people wearing hats, or my deck is you know, 286 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 5: everyone has to be looking to the right on the Yeah, 287 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: but these cards that are getting banned are ones that 288 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 5: are like incredibly competitive and mm hmmm. Yeah, and it's 289 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: it's been hard to figure out where that balance of 290 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 5: like silly fun stuff lies with like more competitive, cutthroat cards. 291 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: Especially I think if there is a correlation between how 293 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: competitive the card is and how expensive it is, that 294 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: also introduces like a strange, you know, class system within 295 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: the players who can afford a collectible card. But Aaron, 296 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: thank you so much for tapping in and bnr MTG expert. 297 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm very excited to keep learning more about this because 298 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: I'm guessing it doesn't sound like it's fully over. 299 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: No, And and I can't wait to come on and 300 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: talk about the Marvel set when that comes out. But 301 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: until then, I'm ready. 302 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: The Lord of the Ring set was really. 303 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: Beautiful to see that, very very good. 304 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 305 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: I have some friends and that was their absolute favorite one, 306 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: so love it. 307 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Aaron, bye, and thanks. 308 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: Coming up, me and Joel are stepping out of the 309 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: airlock and talking Uza maki. But first, a message from 310 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: our spirals, I mean sponsors. 311 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: And we're back. And though you may be happy about that. 312 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: You may regret that choice because we are going into 313 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: the terrifying world of Junji Eto's Uza Maki. Joel had 314 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 3: were you aware of uza Maki before you watched the 315 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: adult Swim adaptation? 316 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 4: Only in the way that I'm aware of that anime 317 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: girl with the red eyes who has are like hands, 318 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: hyderactis and kimono. In the other words, I've seen the 319 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: images everywhere. I just do not know who that person 320 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: is or this jokes they are involved with the Torley 321 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: Eyes their beautiful art, so it's like a curtiory awareness. 322 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: But when I heard this show was coming and I 323 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: saw the fans getting excited, I said, now's my time 324 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: to check in, and I'm really glad I did. 325 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Uzamaki is probably junge Eto's like most well 326 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: known work. Was originally published nineteen ninety eight to nineteen 327 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 3: ninety nine serialized in what are very popular in Japan, 328 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: which are like weekly comic book magazines. This was Shogar 329 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: Kukuan's big comic Spirits, and it tells the story of 330 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: a town that is under a spiral curse, where seeing 331 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: spirals makes people go crazy, and it's a great example 332 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: of what makes Gingi Eto so fantastic, which is this 333 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: very striking, simplified line work with just the most absolutely 334 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: nice Marrish concept that you would never have thought of. 335 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: He's definitely one of the most original creators we have 336 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: in comics, and the first episode of that adult Swim 337 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: adaptation is absolutely fantastic. It is long awaited. This was 338 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: announced in twenty nineteen and it has been a running 339 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: conversation within anime and comic circles of like, will it 340 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: ever come out? So the fact that it came out 341 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: dropped on Saturday, the twenty eight of September, was just 342 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: a huge deal. I think a lot of us didn't 343 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: believe it was going to happen, and honestly, it is 344 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: pretty stunning. 345 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: So we're going to do a little speed. 346 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: Recap and kind of react as we go. But just 347 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: like the book, we begin in a fictional Japanese town 348 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: called Kuruzuchu, where a woman named Kirie Gushima tells us 349 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: that she is going to reveal all the strange things 350 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: that happened in her town. Then we cut to these 351 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: eerie ass credits to kind of hint at the spiral 352 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: or curse to come. What was your feeling when you 353 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: were watching the credits. It was definitely giving me the chills. 354 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: I was immusst immediately. 355 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 4: I love an animation that demands your attention, right and 356 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: we sees the cross. There's so much good animation. The 357 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: way this set up little spirals everywhere, then lures you 358 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: in with like, first this cute little flower pet. You 359 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: love a little flower curl. It's giving like children's drawing, 360 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: so innocent and sweet. And then there's one and like 361 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: that's just up in the upper right hand corner and 362 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: you're like, well that's kind of queer. Oh that's doing there. 363 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: And then there's another one to your left, and then 364 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 4: there's a man screaming about spials and you're like, oh, 365 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: I'm already one hundred percent sucked in. It feels like 366 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: you're being spiraled in to the story because it's so 367 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: subliminal and fun. I watched this three times, twice with 368 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: the duve, once with the sub. I did like the 369 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: sub a little bit. 370 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say I agree, but I did think 371 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: the dub was actually really good. 372 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: And I don't think you lose anything by watching the dub. 373 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: It if you want to watch it and you don't 374 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: have time to eat SubTime which always make the time, 375 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: but if you feel like you it's easier for you 376 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: to listen in English. The dub is really good, more 377 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: than serviceable, and still keeps the creepy vibes. So another 378 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: cool thing I think that will draw horror fans to this, 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: even if you're not an animation fan. The composer is 380 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: the Hereditary composer Colin Stepson, and he does such a 381 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: good job here creating this really terrifying soundtrack. I watched 382 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: this with Nick and Oliver, the artist from Monster and 383 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: Summer Camp. We're in Ohio at the moment. 384 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: Oliver has a. 385 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: Really beautiful old house and we were watching it in 386 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: the old house at like one am in the morning, 387 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: all of us together, and it was so so scary, 388 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: even just the soundtrack and the opening. It's, like you said, 389 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: it sets you up to know that we're gonna see 390 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: something that is unsettling and it's gonna haunt you. And 391 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: one of my favorite things about this story is it 392 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: worms its way into your head and you start thinking, well, 393 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: what if I saw the spiral? You know, this is 394 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: a tiny thing and you're watching the show, so is 395 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: it a ring esque curse that you could take on. 396 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: It really gets into your imagination that way. And the 397 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: story begins properly when we meet Kiri again and her 398 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: friend Shuichi, who has kind of been a little bit 399 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: out of the circle recently, hasn't been around, and he 400 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: tells Kiri it's because his father has become obsessed with spirals. 401 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: He draws them. 402 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: He creates them at every opportunity, whether in miso soup 403 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: where he spins his spoon to create. 404 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: Them, spiral. 405 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is spiral cakes, damn it, which I understand. 406 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: They're my favorite part of the ramen. Too little. 407 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: He wants the naruto, but he's drawing them around the 408 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: family home, and Kiri sort of laughs us off and says, well, 409 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: your dad's like an eccentric sure, and they and they 410 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: carry on walking, but Shuichi assures her this is no joke, 411 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: and we will soon see that the spiral curse has 412 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: truly taken his father over in a delightfully, delightfully nasty way. 413 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: Kiri goes to visit Shuichi and deliver some delicious naruto 414 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: and meets his father, who claims, well, I don't need 415 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: this food. I don't need the items because I can 416 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: manifest the spirals for myself. 417 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: And this is when we. 418 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: First get some really good gungy Eto grotesquerie, which is 419 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: what he's known for. He sticks out his tongue and 420 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: it extends into this long, slimy thing and wraps round 421 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: itself into a spiral, and Kiri is just absolutely horrified 422 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: runs off. 423 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: It's so gross. 424 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: And I love this because up until this moment, you're like, well, 425 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: this is kind of BOOKI, but this is when you 426 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: really get into what Gunji is known for, which is 427 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: this shocking imagery and these terrifying nightmares that he puts 428 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: into your head. We then meet Azumi, who is a 429 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: young girl with a very she's given like a sharp bob. 430 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: She is delivering the looks like it's looking great, but 431 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: her bangs, her very crisp bangs hide a tiny crescent 432 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: scar on her head, and while she claims this is just, 433 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: you know, a lot scar that she has, Shuichi is 434 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: sure it's gonna become a spiral. 435 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: And when the wing wind blows her. 436 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: Bangs out of the place, he has proven right, and 437 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: he kind of says he You've got to get out 438 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: of town. 439 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: Don't do this. 440 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: But you know, he can see that the spiral is 441 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: gonna overtake her, and he is sadly correct, as it 442 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: has just overtaken his father. This is honestly where I 443 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: would say, if you are listening to this and you're like, well, 444 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: this sounds like not that scary, I could. 445 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: I could probably do it. 446 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: I will say beware going forward, because this is there's 447 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: some really haunting stuff in here that at one am 448 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: I was slightly regretting watching. 449 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: I will say, this shows you into the chaos, like right, 450 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: it gives very slice of life energy of like, okay, 451 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: so clearly, if you've watched like a lot of nineteen 452 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: fifties classic horrors, you're driving type horrors like they all 453 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 4: sort of start this way, like wide shot of unassuming town, 454 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: preevious music you've ever heard. 455 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: Strange is happening, but you'll never guess what it is. 456 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 4: And then it's like, okay, here are just two normal 457 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: kids walking to it from school. They go to different schools. 458 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 4: It's kind of like but their childhood friends. Also, she 459 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: has this extremely hot friend at her regular school now 460 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: at her high school, and everyboddyes, and she had like 461 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: a little shape on her head don't know. That's you know, 462 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 4: it's interesting. She's like all the boys have always loved me, 463 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: and you're like, that's a little weird, but okay, and 464 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: then you get the weird tongue moment. You're like, this 465 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: is not right. This guy's obsessed with spirals. He won't 466 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 4: leave anyone alone. He's like, I need the art pieces, 467 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: bring me all the special equipment. I'm obsessed with spirals 468 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: this part, and again, we just want to warn you fully. 469 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 4: If it sounds okay, it's not okay. It's weird body 470 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: horror people. We're used to seeing this stuff and it's 471 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: not okay. It's bad. 472 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: He gets a tub, yeah, a full tub. 473 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: He gets a top delivered to his house and he's like, 474 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: oh this, I need this tub and in. 475 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: Circular that's normal. 476 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: What happens next it's like a Japanese like circular tub. 477 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: And then and then they just drop off the tub 478 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 4: and you leave and you're like, okay, that's fine. And 479 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: then the boy and his mother come home and they're like, hey. 480 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: Where's dad, what's going on? This is strange. 481 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: They swipes open the screen and they're like, I've never 482 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: seen this tub before. This is new. Who would have 483 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: put this here. This seems pretty heavy, Oh my job. 484 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: And they open it and Dad has broken every bone 485 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: in his body to physically transform him his physical body, 486 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: himself into a spiral. He has wrapped up coiled in 487 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: the bottom of a tub like a dried out warm 488 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 4: on a summer day. It's not okay, it's really deeply. 489 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: Very very very up saying. And I will say aboo. 490 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: One of our other super producers had mentioned when he 491 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 3: was kind of researching about Uzumaki and learning about it, 492 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: that there are some there is a very hated Uzumaki 493 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: early Zero's adaptation, and I think it's every adaptation that 494 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: they have done of ginger Eto. 495 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: It's very hard to put across the horror and the 496 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: beauty of his art. 497 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: And what is so fantastic about this animated adaptation, And 498 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 3: there were other animated adaptations that people did not like. 499 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: There was an anthology recently in the last few years. 500 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: But what is so fantastic here is this looks like 501 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: you are watching a ging Eto book come to life, 502 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 3: and in this moment you really really see it, like 503 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 3: this looks like the translation of what we see in 504 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: the pages of those beautiful books which Viz are doing 505 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: unbelievable remasters of and re releases of right now, and 506 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: we see it on page and on the screen and 507 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: it looks identical, and this is really one of those moments. 508 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: So from here things go terrible. We see a spiral 509 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: coming out of the sky after the dad's funeral, I 510 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: see forms Yeah into his face in the sky with 511 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 3: the tongue lolling out, and. 512 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: It drives Sueechi's mother mad. 513 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: Then Kirie actually sees the little spiral on a Zumi's head, 514 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: and there's kind of this interesting theme here where Azumi 515 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: represents something that Gingieto does often, which is stories about 516 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: women who are so beautiful and they kind of drive 517 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: men mad, or a lover who is unrequited and goes 518 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: absolutely insane, and we see a lot of stories like 519 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: that tone he is a story like that, and there 520 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: is another one, love Sick, which he does and as 521 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: shueet she becomes more aware of a Zumi's spiral, he 522 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: won't fall in love with her, and that makes a 523 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: Zumi want him because every other man has always kind 524 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: of been lured by her beauty. We then see a 525 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: new kid who gets he's late to school, he's very sweaty, 526 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: he's very hot, he's looking like he's going to get bullied, 527 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: and he does getting his clothes stripped off where we 528 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: see the. 529 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: Spiral in his back. This is a really great moment 530 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: as well. 531 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 532 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he also loves to do like a gross, sweaty, 533 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: oily person. He has a lot of like creepy short 534 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: stories about There's the one he does where there's a 535 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: boy who lives in a barbecue restaurant and he just 536 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: loves to drink the grease and then the grease. 537 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Becomes like a part of him. It's really gross. And 538 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: I know. 539 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: The best thing about Ginger Eato as well is if 540 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: you're not aware of this, and you can go on 541 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: the viz media Instagram, they have lots of good videos 542 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: proving this. Ginchi Eto is like a really sweet uncle 543 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: who just loves his cats and is like not a taller, 544 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: scary person. So I feel like he's just getting all 545 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: of the terrifying stuff out of him. But this is 546 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: a great example of what he can do. He's putting 547 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: on the page, he's leaving it all there, he's leaving 548 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: it all on a track, nothing left, and then he 549 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: can just sleep well at night. We then get another 550 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: really really scary moment where she eats his mom is 551 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: in the hospital, and she becomes terrified of the spirals 552 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: and she realizes that the worlds on her fingerprints are spirals, 553 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: so she cuts off her own fingerprints and toes so. 554 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 4: That she does camera does not. 555 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: Shy away scissors to flesh. 556 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 4: I just I want to be very graphic here so 557 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: you do not misjudge how horrified. 558 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it is truly, truly very scary stuff. 559 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: And you know what else, I think that we haven't 560 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: even mentioned yet, which is so funny it because it's 561 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: so inherent as Ginger Eater fans. This is all black 562 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: and white overything Ginger Eo does. He is a mangaka. 563 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: His work is always in black and white. Occasionally there 564 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: will be a beautiful painted panel or something at the beginning, 565 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: but it's always black and white. And this adaptation is 566 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: in black and white. It looks it's adapting his line style, 567 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: his line weight, his very very iconic way of drawing 568 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: women and their faces. But even with that said, when 569 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: you see the black and you know what it represents 570 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: on her fingers, as the blood it is this was 571 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: the first moment I really had to turn away when 572 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: I was watching it because I was so immersed that 573 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: I could feel it, you know. And it's really scary 574 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: when horror is something that you could just do to yourself, 575 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: Like it's so tactile, it's so easy. Everyone has a 576 00:31:52,880 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: pair of scissors. Very very horrifying. Yeah, what comes next 577 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: is one of the coolest moments and also one of 578 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: the moments that fans have been waiting to see. 579 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: It's one of the cone So. 580 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: You've probably seen many people getting tattooed on their bodies. 581 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: And it's where we see a Zoomie and she goes 582 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: to see Kiri and she says, Kirie, help me. I 583 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: don't know what's happening. And she slides away her hair 584 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: and we see that her entire face has kind of 585 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: been consumed by a spiral. 586 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 4: Well, you've just given her so much, can we a smidgeback? 587 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 4: She it's one of the guys who has a crush 588 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: on her. It's like, hey, can you. 589 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: I support women's wrongs, okay, Joel, but give her women's 590 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: full info, give them. 591 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: To ego that this woman not fully okay, Like, yeah, 592 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: this any. 593 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: Wants she's a spiral cust. 594 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 4: She gets a full warning of like, hey, that thing 595 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: on your head is gonna become a spiral and you 596 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 4: should absolutely leave town. And let me tell you this, 597 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 4: not anyone could tell me to leave town. But if 598 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: a sensible person who is experiencing trauma in their own 599 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: life takes time out of their day to be like, yo, 600 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: this town not good for you. 601 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: Get out. I'm gonna be like, you know what, let. 602 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: Me pack my things up and leave because I watch horror. 603 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: Everyone should leave the town. Let's be real, why don't 604 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: you leave the town is the biggest question that you 605 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: will be yelling at this show. 606 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: The whole time. 607 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: He did, And so she's like, no, screw that, I'm 608 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: gonna allure you to this spot. And then she confesses, Hey, 609 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 4: my best friend's boyfriend friend for all of their youth, 610 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: I've been in love with you because you don't like me. 611 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 4: This is toxic. Please please be in love with me too. 612 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: And he's like, yo, I'm not please back away, and 613 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: she's like, no, you must, and then get swept to 614 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: the side and oh no, her eyeball is being swallowed 615 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 4: into her face. 616 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is such a cool moment. It's like, you see, 617 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: this is one of. 618 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: Those few moments where you're like, oh, because I love 619 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: the real manga, so it's hard sometimes to be like, oh, 620 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: what can the adaptation bring? But we get to see 621 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: the eye rolling around the spiral in her face and 622 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 3: being sucked inside, and it is truly, truly terrifying. And 623 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 3: then rip to that woman. She actually gets sucked into 624 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: her own spiral, and it's another unbelievable body horror moment 625 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: where there's kind of this mutilation of her body as 626 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: it gets sucked inside of this spiral. 627 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 5: Folded like. 628 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: She gets folded like paper planes, and boom, she's dead 629 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: and we realize we are just at the beginning of 630 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: our descent into the spiral. And that is the end 631 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: of Uzamaki Episode one. There are going to be four episodes. 632 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 3: They drop at midnight, which is primetime on Adult Swim 633 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: if you've grown up on Adult Swim. They drop at 634 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: midnight every Saturday night. So that's very exciting. 635 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 2: Joel, So what was your response to this. 636 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: Like, how do you feel about uza Maki Now you've 637 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: watched it, will you go read the manga? 638 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: Do you want to know more? Are you excited to 639 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: see where this goes? 640 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 4: I am beyond excited to see the rest of this series, 641 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 4: which I think, just from an artistic standpoint, is going 642 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: to become very important. And like the legacy of manga, 643 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: it's legitimately so beautiful. And I really love the way, 644 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 4: you know, artists across globally right now, especially in animation, 645 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 4: I think, are really pushing the mounds of Like listen, 646 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 4: animation is a style, and because it's the style, we 647 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: can all bring our own, like uniquely, Like if you 648 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 4: think about Pinocchio and what Del Toro has done with 649 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: like a lot of that's artists, if you think about 650 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: what Star Wars has done with a lot of it's projects, Like, 651 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 4: we're really seeing some beautiful stuff being made, and to 652 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: see a manga page turned into an anime in this way, 653 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: I mean really just gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous work. On 654 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: top of that, we're in the month of Horror. This 655 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: is kicking off our horror month, which we're really excited 656 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 4: about here. I of course, the very first thing I 657 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: did was called Carmen, and I was like, I have 658 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 4: seen Zamaki and I have thoughts, and she was coming 659 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: off of watching The Lighthouse, which was your recommendation, I 660 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 4: love our triangle, so she was like. 661 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: You, she would love it. I knew she would love, 662 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: of course. 663 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 4: Because it's so absurd and so fun. And she was 664 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 4: saying that this cosmic horror genre is really having a moment, 665 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 4: and she was really reminded of The Lighthouse when she 666 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: came to watch Uzumaki, and I have been thinking about it, 667 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 4: and I didn't know, like, this term cosmic horror is 668 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 4: new to me. I was really intrigued by the idea. 669 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 4: A lot of people were like, Oh, it's just love 670 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 4: crafty and kind of but not really a lot of 671 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 4: low crafting work follows into this genre. But it's it's 672 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 4: like the fear of the unknown. Science context could be bad. 673 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: We don't know. 674 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 4: We're exploring and learning all of these new things, and 675 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: if we create something that's terrifying and horrible, and also 676 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 4: on top of that nature itself, it's just scary. Have 677 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: you been out there? Horrifying things happen and we don't 678 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 4: even know what's all the way out there in space 679 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 4: or under the water. It's terrifying. I love not knowing 680 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: what the horror is at the end of a horror movie. Yes, 681 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 4: is there anything scarier, and I think if that's it 682 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 4: feels like that's what we're leaning into here. And that's 683 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: my favorite when they don't answer what the monster scary 684 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 4: thing is and you're like, I'm still scared and I 685 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 4: need resolutions, like how. 686 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: Does the spiral work? You're never gonna know that it's 687 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: just a spiral. 688 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 4: It's who's doing it? No, the God's angry? 689 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: What's going on it? What's angry? Who else? Why did 690 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: we do this? 691 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: But I think you bring up a fantastic point. I 692 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 3: also I love cosmic horror, but I do think that 693 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: a lot of it is defined by Lovecraft, who was 694 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: a terrible person. I feel happy to say that. Feel 695 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 3: go and google it. He was a racist sucker. So 696 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of Lovecraft, but I do love 697 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: cosmic horror, and I love that we are in a 698 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: space now where we are getting more cosmic horror that 699 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: strays from Lovecraft, that is not an adaptation of Lovecraft. 700 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: I definitely think Gingi Eto is a fantastic cosmic horror writer. 701 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 3: He has a brilliant book called Remina that's a fantastic 702 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 3: iteration of the genre. I personally currently at the moment, 703 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: I am working on a cosmic horror comic that I'm hoping 704 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: is going to get picked up. So yeah, very exciting 705 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 3: times for cosmic horror. Also, I want to say it 706 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 3: was so sad, calm and cannot be here right now. 707 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: She is on a fun trip, so good for her. 708 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 3: But she also pointed out that they did not joke 709 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: around with this cast because that voice actor for Shuichi 710 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: is Shinachiromiki, who is in Perfect Blue, who is in 711 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 3: most of the Pokemon movies as James, and he's also 712 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: Roy Mustang in Full Metal Alchemist. So this is just 713 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 3: a schmorgasboard of anime impressiveness and I'm really excited. I 714 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 3: hope you guys will give this a try. And if 715 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: you do not like horror movies, I hope you have 716 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: enjoyed our fun, spooky rendition of this and it doesn't 717 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: give you nightmares. 718 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: And on tomorrow's episode of. 719 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 3: Xtra Vision, me and Jason are going to be diving 720 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 3: into the Rings of Power season finale. Who speaking of horrifying, 721 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna see some horrifying things in that finale, guys, 722 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say it. And episode three of Agatha 723 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: all Along down Down Down, we Go Down the Witches. 724 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: That's the episode. Thank you for listening. 725 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 6: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Getsubsion and Rosie 726 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 6: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our Executive 727 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 6: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Supervising producer is 728 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 6: a Booze Afar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. 729 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 6: Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 730 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude. Kenny Goodman 731 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 2: and Heidi our discord moderator.