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Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten, He's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Plan into the ground by Puda Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 3: Here we go one hand and catch it a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 5: We are a full service show here on the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: Red Sea Report. So I thought i'd share something right

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Speaker 5: off the top around the leak and get some opinion.

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Speaker 5: The Jets earlier today decided not to hold mandatory mini

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Speaker 5: camp next week. The reason it's actually a pretty good one.

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Speaker 5: They start training camp early because they're participating in the

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame game on August third. So they decide

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Speaker 5: let's cut the OTAs and the mini camp, and we'll

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Speaker 5: just report a little bit earlier. Now it's a found out,

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Speaker 5: Kyle that the Eagles have also chosen not to have

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Speaker 5: mandatory mini camp, but their season ran into February. Some

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Speaker 5: I guess the players they liked that as long as

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Speaker 5: work is getting done and then there's a reward at

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Speaker 5: the end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting. You know, I can see both sides

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Speaker 6: of it. We played in the Hall of Fame Game

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Speaker 6: one time when I was in Tennessee, and it is

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Speaker 6: a long training camp, really spread out. I had a

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Speaker 6: friend who also played for the Bears, and they did

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Speaker 6: the same thing. They played in the Hall of Fame Game,

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Speaker 6: and they had basically the easiest training camp I've ever

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Speaker 6: heard of. They would have practice about every other day

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Speaker 6: because they got that extra week sometimes week and a

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Speaker 6: half of training camp. And so you don't want to

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Speaker 6: you know, from a outside perspective, it makes sense for

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Speaker 6: the Eagles to a degree. I mean, their season went

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Speaker 6: extra long. You don't want to cheat players of their offseason.

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Speaker 6: You while you you know, you feel great about what

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Speaker 6: you did, you came up a little bit short in

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. You you do still want to give

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Speaker 6: the players their time off, their rest, and as long

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Speaker 6: as you as a staff and as players, you feel

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Speaker 6: like you get everything accomplished. You accomplish all of your goals,

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Speaker 6: you get your install you get all those things taken

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Speaker 6: care of, You have good attendance and OTAs and offseason workouts.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's it makes sense to throw your players

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Speaker 6: a bone, give them a little extra time, a little

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Speaker 6: bit of a breather heading into you know, about a

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Speaker 6: you know, three four week period before training camp starts,

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Speaker 6: just to give the guys some some rest, probably more

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Speaker 6: for the from the eagle standpoint, more mentally than physically,

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Speaker 6: because it is such a grind with the even you know,

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Speaker 6: we've talked about this before in the past, but just

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Speaker 5: Cardinals Paul have made no such announcement. Their mandatory many

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Speaker 5: camp is one week from this week. So OTA's a

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Speaker 5: mini camp continue with a brand new head coach and

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Speaker 5: a brand new offense and brand new defense. So these

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Speaker 7: I'd say it's just the opposite with the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 7: like Xavin Collins yesterday, me and the media saying the

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Speaker 7: players feel the pressure and that's a good thing. This

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Speaker 7: isn't some sort of vacation. This isn't hey be ready

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Speaker 7: week one. Hey be ready in December and January, which

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Speaker 7: in hindsight, was the approach. The mentality last year was

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Speaker 3: How'd that work out?

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Speaker 7: So it's a much different vibe, it's a much different mentality,

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Speaker 7: and I don't see the Cardinals skimping on anything. Mini camp,

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Speaker 7: and I would say there's only a handful of made

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Speaker 7: is feeling the pressure to show themselves. In fact, if

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Speaker 7: there's one year for the dreaded Hall of Fame game,

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Speaker 7: and that's the way a veteran thinks, right, Kyle, the

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Speaker 7: you might welcome that as an organization, this would be

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Speaker 7: only question on that one, Craig is is Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 7: playing in the Hall of Fame game? Because if he is,

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Speaker 5: My guess is he will be in uniform, standing on

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Speaker 5: But the Cardinals certainly could use a little extra time

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Speaker 5: given all the newness around the facility. On the field,

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Speaker 5: and let's just focus here on the defense. With a

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Speaker 5: out of the Cardinals in twenty twenty three? Well, JG

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Speaker 5: I guess recently on the Day Patch podcast answered that question.

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Speaker 8: We'll have elements of what we did in Philly, But

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Speaker 8: my first thing about schematics is it's all about the

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Speaker 8: I don't really care what we look like as long

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Speaker 8: that's the main point is I want us to be adaptable.

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Speaker 5: We've heard this before, Kyle, and I kind of put

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Speaker 5: some combination of that. And this conversation that JG had

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Speaker 5: But to hear him say, he's had to kind of

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Speaker 5: and did some studying on how effective against certain offenses

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you could see it. You can see it

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Speaker 3: And you know, to have a four to three.

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Speaker 6: not sure we have that right now. And so you know,

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Speaker 6: that's what I love is it's not a coach saying

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Speaker 6: This is what I've done in the past, and I

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sure we have that right now.

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Speaker 6: And so you know, that's been the theme since Jonathan

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Speaker 6: So it's adaptable in two senses, adaptable based on the

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Speaker 6: as he said, on a week to week basis, because

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Speaker 6: You've got to cater things from a week to week basis.

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Speaker 6: And now this time of the year is the time

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Speaker 6: And again, all of this is going to ramp up

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Speaker 5: We've seen a lot of movement, Paul. We'll get more

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Speaker 5: But we've talked about it on several different platforms based

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Speaker 5: on Kyle's comments that defensive line room right now, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you've got ten bodies in there, but do you have,

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Speaker 5: to Kyle's point, do you have four that you can trust?

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Speaker 5: And if you don't, then okay, well we can't go

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Speaker 7: Look at the Eagles lie last year, right think about it.

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Speaker 7: There are question marks. There's a lot of names in there,

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Speaker 7: there's some proven experience, there's some undrafted guys. But when

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Speaker 7: probably where you start with the biggest questions going into camp,

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Speaker 7: to that degree, it's refreshing to hear, it really is

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Speaker 7: to hear Jonathan gannasay, We're just going to emphasize our

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Speaker 7: has the adaptability in the acumen to do what is

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Speaker 7: I look forward to that and they've already identified some

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Speaker 5: To that point, here is Jonathan Gannon talking about being

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Speaker 5: adaptable within the defensive scheme that they want to be

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Speaker 8: You know, I use the phrase adapt or die man.

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Speaker 8: You know, the game's changing, the players are changing. You know,

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Speaker 8: like you got a seven or eight year vet and

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Speaker 8: what I mean, They play football differently. That eight to

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Speaker 8: ten year gap of age difference for players that are

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Speaker 7: and right now, Kyle, is where you do that experiment,

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Speaker 4: Great read by Colt McCoy.

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Speaker 2: Gord just tossed by Colt McCoy.

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Speaker 4: Oh that is a greasy roll by Colt McCoy. Right there,

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Speaker 7: He's got that ORR about him.

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Speaker 9: You know that they're confident.

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Speaker 5: He just you know, he knows what the defense is doing.

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Speaker 5: You hope to never see the backup quarterback, but if

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. As we say welcome back, it

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Speaker 5: is the Cardinals Red Seat report presented by seat Geek,

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Speaker 5: your ticket to grade seats. Still don't know the status

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Speaker 5: of one Kyler Murray. The rehab from the torn ecl continues.

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Speaker 5: But in the meantime, you've got Colt McCoy, You've got

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's interesting to hear Colt McCoy saying, I'm

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's no mystery why this coaching staff loves

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Speaker 6: and you know it's it's it's a tough decision, but

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Speaker 6: you know, I think I feel comfortable with this team

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Speaker 6: with Colt McCoy under center if if it is Colt

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Speaker 6: McCoy week one, because again it is just how well

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Speaker 6: respected and his knowledge of the game and and his leadership. Look,

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Speaker 6: you can have a quarterback that doesn't have great leadership qualities,

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Speaker 6: but you better find a bunch of great leaders around him.

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Speaker 6: You your team is way better off when the guy

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Speaker 6: who's lined up under center is that alpha, is that leader,

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Speaker 6: does take command and has that authority.

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Speaker 3: And his authority not.

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Speaker 6: Only comes with his voice, it comes with his experience

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Speaker 6: and the things he's seen in the way he's played,

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Speaker 6: and just his preparation.

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Speaker 7: It's one thing to walk away and retire when you're

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Speaker 7: the backup. It's another thing, where as of right now,

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Speaker 7: you're scheduled to be the starter week one at least,

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Speaker 7: that's the thinking. We don't know for sure. Could be

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Speaker 7: week one, could be one month, could be all the

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Speaker 7: way through Halloween. We have no ideas. So you can't

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Speaker 7: walk away for an opportunity like that if you're scheduled

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Speaker 7: to be a starting quarterback, one of thirty two on

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Speaker 7: the planet. So for that reason, and you know, the Cardinals, look,

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Speaker 7: they're in need, they're in need of a proven quarterback,

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Speaker 7: and Colt, you know, proved himself very capable last season

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Speaker 7: when called upon.

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Speaker 5: Quoting Colts on Monday, Opportunities to play in this league

461
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Speaker 5: don't grow on trees, and he has this opportunity in

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Speaker 5: front of us. That's why this is so important for him.

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Speaker 5: Here's more from Cope McCoy after meeting the media on Monday.

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Speaker 10: You know, my number one priority is learning the system right.

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Speaker 10: It's it's new, it's different. There's things as a quarterback

466
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Speaker 10: that you got to know that other people don't. So

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of thinking going on out on the

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Speaker 10: field and a lot of like first time I'm seeing

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Speaker 10: play is okay, Like you know, understanding and processing it,

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Speaker 10: and then in my mind, like, I don't know if

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Speaker 10: Kyler's going to be healthy or not. You know, I

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Speaker 10: think we all certainly hope that he is, but if

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Speaker 10: he's not, I'm one hundred percent going to be ready

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Speaker 10: to go.

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Speaker 5: The backup quarterback is always one play away, one snap away,

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Speaker 5: and that goes for every backup at any position. What

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Speaker 5: we all want to know about kyleer Murray, how is

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Speaker 5: he doing? When is he going to be coming back?

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Speaker 5: Got a little bit of an updates, Let's go back

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Speaker 5: to the day Patch podcast. Jonathan Gannon on K one.

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Speaker 8: I'm excited when he gets back because I think he's

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Speaker 8: got what you're looking for in the franchise player of

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Speaker 8: your organization, and I think all ultimately he's got fire

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Speaker 8: in his gut, big time competitor, and he's going to

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Speaker 8: will his team to win. So I'm excited that he's

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Speaker 8: on our squad.

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Speaker 5: Whether it's the head coach, Kyle, whether it's his teammates.

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Speaker 5: We've heard it repeatedly, Kyle the Murray first one in,

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Speaker 5: last one out, as far as not just the rehab,

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Speaker 5: but in meetings, spotted on the field, watching going through

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Speaker 5: mental reps while his teammates are going through physical reps

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Speaker 5: on the field.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you're a special athlete and you've been

494
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Speaker 6: specially your whole life, you tend to take things for granted,

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Speaker 6: Like the game sometimes is easy. You're not necessarily diving

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Speaker 6: into things like other people are. But when players deal

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Speaker 6: with adversity, you know, Kyler has dealt with adversity. You know,

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Speaker 6: even prior to his injury, the team was not playing

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Speaker 6: particularly well last year, and so he is excited about

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Speaker 6: the changes. He's excited about how the team has, you know,

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Speaker 6: really embraced him as the franchise quarterback. And and you

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Speaker 6: can see, you know, just by his dedication. It's a

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Speaker 6: bit different this offseason. He is here like and I

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Speaker 6: talked about this with you off the air, Like, you know,

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Speaker 6: I know that players can probably get better rehab other places.

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Speaker 6: They can probably find trainers that are elite, the best

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Speaker 6: in the world, and you can go and spend your

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Speaker 6: off season there. But when you're a team, you've got

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Speaker 6: to be a part of that team. They your teammates

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Speaker 6: have to see you. They you have to form those

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Speaker 6: relationships and those bonds and trust me, you know, as

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Speaker 6: one of the most injured players, in the.

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Speaker 3: National Football League.

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Speaker 6: It is tough when you are in the training room,

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Speaker 6: to be in meeting rooms, be invested, be you know,

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Speaker 6: learn a new scheme and a new game plan. But

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Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, from from everything I'm hearing, is doing just that.

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Speaker 6: Like he is out there taking the mental reps. He's

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Speaker 6: out there being the leader that this team needs him

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Speaker 6: to be, because when he comes back, he wants to

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Speaker 6: do something special. And you know, you can see that.

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Speaker 6: You know, even though the players know he's more than

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Speaker 6: likely not going to be there week one and who

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Speaker 6: knows when he's going to be back out on that

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Speaker 6: football field, they are excited for his return because they

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Speaker 6: can see how much this means to him.

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Speaker 7: This has to be the most adversity he's faced in

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Speaker 7: his football career. By far Right, walked in as a freshman,

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Speaker 7: was a starting quarterback in high school, won three state titles.

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Speaker 7: You know, all American recruit. Yeah, you transfer from Texas

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Speaker 7: A and M and they went to Oklahoma. He had

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Speaker 7: a backup Baker Mayfield for a couple of years. He

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Speaker 7: played one full season, won the Heisman. He's the number

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Speaker 7: one pick overall. He's Rookie of the Year. He's a

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Speaker 7: two time pro bowler. This is the most adversity he

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Speaker 7: has faced, and so I think we're all curious to

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Speaker 7: see how much more I don't mentally.

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Speaker 5: Tough he comes out of this.

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Speaker 7: What is his desire just to be a football player

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Speaker 7: after going through this ordeal?

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Speaker 5: When Kyler Murray makes his return, not if, but when

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Speaker 5: one makes his return, make sure you are in attendance

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Speaker 5: at State Farm Stadium. Cardinals single game tickets on sale now.

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Speaker 3: To secure your seats.

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Speaker 5: Today we've hit halftime here on the Cardinals Red Sue

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Speaker 5: reports Paul's favorite topic. When we return here on the

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals Radio.

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Speaker 11: Network, Gino Smith and the pistol behind him is Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 11: Snapped the Smith he's gonna throw and tied the dump numbers, picked.

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Speaker 12: Off the thirty on the top of down, proning back

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Speaker 12: funder the twenty to ten dunk down out Saban Collins,

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Speaker 12: great awareness. That was a checkdown of the rights, and

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Speaker 12: Saban Collins read it. He picked it off and then

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Speaker 12: he returned it to give the Cardinals to lead thirteen

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Speaker 12: to ten.

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Speaker 4: Saban with a look what I found. Pick and then

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Speaker 4: shows off bad speed. That is a big man running

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Speaker 4: taking it all the way back for a pick six.

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Speaker 5: Correct me if I'm wrong, Paul, because I know you will.

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Speaker 5: On that play. If I remember correctly, Collins lined up

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Speaker 5: on the outside, perhaps going to rush the quarterback, but

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Speaker 5: saw Kenneth Walker dald Art outside and then, as you

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Speaker 5: heard day passion Ron wotefully describe the play, read the

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Speaker 5: quarterback's eyes, stepped in front of the passing lane and

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Speaker 5: took it thirty yards for the pick six.

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Speaker 7: No, you remember, As much as I'd love to correct

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Speaker 7: you and admonish you, you are correct. It was the

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Speaker 7: left side of the defense. It was near the Cardinals sideline.

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Speaker 7: I also remember being down there, and of course I'm

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Speaker 7: behind big guys like Kyle Vanenbosch, so I'm straining my

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Speaker 7: neck left and right trying to see around the tall trees.

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Speaker 7: But there were coaches screaming at him and pointing to

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Speaker 7: the running back, meaning he had your assignment. And sure enough,

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Speaker 7: I doubtfully hurt anything because it's very hard for the

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Speaker 7: players to hear what the coaches are yelling. But that

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Speaker 7: doesn't keep the coaches from yelling from the sideline all game. Long,

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Speaker 7: but yes, he did make the read, jump the passing

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Speaker 7: lane and boom.

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Speaker 3: The rest is history.

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Speaker 5: Now that was from the outside. The question is, Kyle

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Speaker 5: and I know where Paul stands, so I want to

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Speaker 5: get your thoughts on this. But we have seen during OTAs,

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Speaker 5: during the open portions, Zavon Collins consistently working with the

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Speaker 5: outside linebackers one on one instruction with outside linebackers coach

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Speaker 5: Rob Rodriguez. So where do we see Zavon Collins play

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Speaker 5: this season?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it wouldn't surprise me. Uh if he's a

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Speaker 6: pass rusher. I mean again, in a limited amount of

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Speaker 6: reps rushing the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Last year, he was effective.

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Speaker 6: If you see him walking through these hallways and a

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Speaker 6: T shirt and shorts and you had to guess his position,

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Speaker 6: you'd guess defensive end. I mean, he's your prototype build.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's bigger than I was when I played

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Speaker 6: defensive end, and.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely strong enough.

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Speaker 6: He's you know, he's got all of the physical tools

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Speaker 6: to play the position. And you know, I know we've

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Speaker 6: talked about this before, but he's got to feel liberated,

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Speaker 6: like freed up because playing linebacker there's so many checks

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Speaker 6: and so many. If they do this, you drop to

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Speaker 6: this spot. If they do this, you've got to cover

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Speaker 6: this guy. And if they come out in this formation,

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Speaker 6: we have to check to this. If he's on the

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Speaker 6: outside and he is asked to A set the edge

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Speaker 6: and and b get after the quarterback, that's it. And

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he's probably feeling that if that's what they're

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Speaker 6: asking him to do. You know, when a coach says, okay,

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Speaker 6: just go beat that offensive tackle and get the quarterback,

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Speaker 6: that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's my job. You know.

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Speaker 6: Obviously there's a lot of technique. You know, there's a

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Speaker 6: whole game within a game of figuring out what your

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Speaker 6: best pass rush move is, setting it up, having a counter,

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Speaker 6: but you know it's for him. It gives And again

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Speaker 6: this is a common theme with this defense. Let's put

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Speaker 6: these guys in positions where they can succeed. Let's put

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Speaker 6: these guys in a position where they don't have to

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Speaker 6: think and they can.

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Speaker 3: Just play fast.

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Speaker 6: And for a player like Zaven Collins, who's you know,

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Speaker 6: probably had to make checks his entire career, had to

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Speaker 6: cover running backs out of the back of his entire career,

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Speaker 6: had to you know, do some zone drops, his entire career.

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Speaker 6: To just have the ability to line up on the

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Speaker 6: outside and just go, it's got to feel liberating for him.

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Speaker 7: I have a sixteen year old who is getting his

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Speaker 7: braces off today. What's that feel like? Freedom from the braces,

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Speaker 7: zavan Collins, Right, Just go out to the edge and

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Speaker 7: get after the quarterback. Your responsibilities are cut in half,

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Speaker 7: if not more than what you were doing wearing the

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Speaker 7: green dot, playing inside linebacker, being the mic, the captain

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Speaker 7: of the defense, calling all the checks and the adjustments.

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Speaker 7: So it is much different. To Kyle's point, hopefully it

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Speaker 7: unlocks all that athleticism. I think of the linebacker taking

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Speaker 7: four spots ahead of in the twenty twenty one draft

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Speaker 7: Micah Parsons. They're now calling him a pass rushing linebacker

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Speaker 7: because Michael Parson's trying to redefine his position. He wants

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Speaker 7: to be called a defensive end because the defensive ends

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Speaker 7: get paid more than linebackers. But now the Cowboys say, no,

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Speaker 7: he's a pass rushing linebacker.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm thinking. Zavon Collins is effective this season.

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Speaker 7: We'll see how long it lasts, but as of right now,

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Speaker 7: I think the Cardinals are viewing him much like Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 7: who played the majority of his stats.

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Speaker 5: Last year off the edge. Well, we've already you and

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Speaker 5: I Paul have already moved Avon Collins into the outside linebackers,

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Speaker 5: and we do no longer considers Avon Collins an inside linebacker,

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Speaker 5: much like we no longer consider Isaiah Simmons an inside linebacker.

652
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Speaker 5: He is in the secondary. He is working with the safeties.

653
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Speaker 5: That's where we've seen him now for the better part

654
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Speaker 5: of over a year. Your two inside linebackers, they need

655
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Speaker 5: to be on the field at any position. Jonathan Gannon

656
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Speaker 5: on what he expects out of Avon Collins and Isaiah Simmons.

657
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Speaker 8: They need to be impact players for us, and that's

658
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Speaker 8: how we're retreating them. You know, both of those guys

659
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Speaker 8: are extremely intelligent. So everyone sees a physical skill, but

660
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Speaker 8: they don't know what they have in their brain. And

661
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Speaker 8: that's what excites me the most about those two guys

662
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Speaker 8: is their brain. And why that excites me is is

663
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Speaker 8: when they can understand why you're doing things and how

664
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Speaker 8: we're deploying them, it allows you to be creative with

665
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Speaker 8: what you can do with them.

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Speaker 5: Part of the conversation that JG had on the day

667
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Speaker 5: Patch podcast. You can go look it up. Great conversation

668
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Speaker 5: between the head coach and the voice of your Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 5: Dave Patch. But as you think about the transition, not

670
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Speaker 5: for Isaiah Simmons, Kyle, He's already made that transition, but

671
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Speaker 5: for Zavion Collins. If this is a permanent move, which

672
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Speaker 5: I expect it to be. He did see a lot

673
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Speaker 5: of snaps towards the end of last season as an

674
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Speaker 5: edge rusher. He even put it at about thirty percent

675
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Speaker 5: of his defensive snaps played near closer to the line

676
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Speaker 5: of scrimmage.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's a definite need. There's a need for production,

678
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Speaker 6: for the ability to affect a game as an edge rusher.

679
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Speaker 6: And again he has all the phys tools. And you

680
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Speaker 6: know what I loved hearing Jonathan Gannon say there is

681
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 6: it's not just the what we're not telling them line

682
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 6: up here and do this. We're engaging them with the

683
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Speaker 6: why you're giving players ownership. This is why we're moving

684
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Speaker 6: you here, and this is what it can do for

685
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Speaker 6: your career. This is why we're moving We're gonna keep

686
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Speaker 6: Isaiah Simmons in the secondary because of his skill set

687
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Speaker 6: and because of what we believe his strengths are and

688
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Speaker 6: overall what it will do for our defense. And then

689
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Speaker 6: once they understand the why, it's much easier to do

690
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Speaker 6: the what and to understand the ends and the outs

691
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Speaker 6: of the defense. And you know, I just love how

692
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Speaker 6: this staff is coming in. They didn't sit in a

693
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Speaker 6: dark room, come up with a scheme on a on

694
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Speaker 6: a blackboard and just hand to the players and say

695
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 6: here's what we're doing. Go do it it is. You know,

696
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 6: here's how we want our defense to look. Here's how

697
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Speaker 6: we believe you can be an impact player. Because these

698
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 6: two players, you know, take away their position. If you

699
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Speaker 6: didn't know they were first round draft picks, you would

700
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Speaker 6: still see that they are special athletes. They are elite athletes.

701
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Speaker 6: They love to hit, they love the physical part of

702
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Speaker 6: the game, and so you need to find a place

703
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Speaker 6: for them on this football field. And we talked about

704
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 6: that earlier. Whatever this defense looks like, you need to

705
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 6: get your game changers, your impact players. You are guys

706
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 6: that affect the outcome of games on the field, and

707
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 6: not just guys who are eating up space or guys

708
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Speaker 6: who don't necessarily ever impact a game. They do their job,

709
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Speaker 6: but they're not elite players, because that's what the NFL

710
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Speaker 6: has become. It's not just eleven guys that do their job,

711
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 6: which is vitally important. You need guys that can impact

712
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Speaker 6: the outcome of games. And those that is the type

713
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Speaker 6: of athletes and the type of players that Isaiah Simmons

714
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Speaker 6: should be and Xavi and Collins should.

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Speaker 3: Be on a week to week basis.

716
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Speaker 7: Remember something else, Isaiah Simmons was at the time termed

717
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Speaker 7: a draft pick who was selected to cover the tight end,

718
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Speaker 7: and I thought Saman Collins was underrated last year in

719
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Speaker 7: coverage we saw the year before, Jordan Hicks was exploited

720
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Speaker 7: a lot trying to come out of the backfield match

721
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Speaker 7: up on a back or a tight end that was

722
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Speaker 7: not to the Cardinals advantage. One of the reasons Jordan

723
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Speaker 7: Hicks is no longer on the Cardinals defense.

724
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Speaker 3: Last year, I.

725
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Speaker 7: Believe Zamon Collins made a lot of plays in coverage,

726
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Speaker 7: including that pick six that we heard to start this

727
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 7: segment right, And so if he's on the field, I'm

728
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Speaker 7: guessing there are gonna be a lot of different packages

729
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Speaker 7: where he'll find himself in obvious passing situations, maybe on

730
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Speaker 7: a back on a tight end that he will go

731
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Speaker 7: from being an edge player to maybe someone who would

732
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Speaker 7: be downfield in coverage.

733
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Speaker 5: A lot of talk about Zavon Collins. Let's hear from

734
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Speaker 5: zavan Collins the difference between an edge rusher and an

735
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Speaker 5: inside linebacker.

736
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Speaker 9: For him, the edge here on the line scream so

737
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 9: you don't see as much. So you know, whenever you're

738
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Speaker 9: off the ball, you kind of have a grasp for

739
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 9: more of like what's going on and seeing like kind

740
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Speaker 9: of everything I can't. When you're off the ball, you

741
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 9: kind of see the you know, spacing of wide receivers,

742
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 9: tight ends, you know, but on the edge you can

743
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 9: also see how far is a tight end off? You know,

744
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Speaker 9: is he gonna cut back, he's gonna stay on the ball,

745
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Speaker 9: go this way? Each aspect it's different, but it's like

746
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 9: I said last year in our five down stuff, I

747
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 9: played off the edge as well. I think it was

748
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 9: like thirty percent of the time. So it's not nothing

749
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Speaker 9: crazy new to me.

750
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Speaker 5: This goes back to our earlier conversation Kyle about trying

751
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: to figure out what these players do best and what

752
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 5: fits best within your roster. You bring in a Kaiser

753
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: White who knows this defense, having Spence and played under

754
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rolis, if he's going to be

755
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: the quarterback of the defense as basically your inside linebacker,

756
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: all right, well what does that leave Zavian Collins. Not

757
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: that he can't handle it, but maybe he is better

758
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: suited and better for this defense to play on the

759
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 5: outside where there is a considerable need to get after

760
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Speaker 5: the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, Kaiser White speaks the language that

762
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Speaker 6: these coaches speak because he came from Philly. He understands

763
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Speaker 6: what the coaches are asking of him. He is perfect

764
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 6: to bring in and be the mic backer, to make

765
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 6: the checks, to run the defense, to control the huddle.

766
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Speaker 6: He understands the vision probably better than just about anybody

767
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 6: on this roster. And so, yeah, what do you do

768
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Speaker 6: with Zavon Collins. You don't take a special player, an

769
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Speaker 6: elite athlete and move him, you know, to another linebacker

770
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Speaker 6: spot or put him on the bench. Because Kaiser White

771
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 6: understands things better, You've got to find a way to

772
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Speaker 6: utilize him. And yeah, it is different, it's way different. Look,

773
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Speaker 6: edge is primarily it's man on man, Like I just

774
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 6: have to beat the guy in front of me, and

775
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: you could hear him there talk about the difference you

776
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 6: have to see everything when you're a mic becker, whereas

777
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: when you're an edge player, it's tunnel vision. Like I

778
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 6: have to focus on this guy. I'm gonna read his

779
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 6: block and he will tell me exactly what to do

780
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Speaker 6: on this play.

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Speaker 7: You know, you watch these Cardinals OTAs when you're out there,

782
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 7: it's easy for your eye to gravitate pass the head

783
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 7: coach to the coordinators, right Nick Rowlis Drew petsing Jeff Rodgers.

784
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Speaker 7: But to me, I keep watching Rob Rodriguez, the outside

785
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Speaker 7: linebackers coach, and just the task he has with this group.

786
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Speaker 7: A Zavon Collins six four two sixty is radically different

787
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Speaker 7: than a Dennis Gardak, who was very different than a

788
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Speaker 7: my J. Sanders, who is very different than a Cameron Thomas,

789
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Speaker 7: who might even be more of a five technique. And

790
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Speaker 7: then you bring in the rookie bgo Jalauri and he's

791
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 7: got to get all these players ramped up. Every one

792
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 7: of them is unique in their own skill set. And oh,

793
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 7: by the way, eighteen or thirty six sacks went out

794
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 7: the window and walked away in Zach Allen and JJ Watt,

795
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 7: so the onus is on Rob Rodriguez and that position

796
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 7: group to generate sacks.

797
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Speaker 5: Outside linebackers returning from last season Sanders and Cameron Thomas

798
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Speaker 5: each with three sacks piece. Saman Collins had two his

799
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Speaker 5: first two of his career. Both were from an outside

800
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Speaker 5: linebacker position. So not a lot in that room, and

801
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Speaker 5: maybe that's a big reason why David Collins is now

802
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 5: in that room as well. This is the Arizona Cardinoles

803
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Speaker 5: Radio Network.

804
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Speaker 11: Connor the e fact and it's a run play up

805
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Speaker 11: the middle. Connor down to the five, pushing his way

806
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Speaker 11: to the dude dive into the one and close.

807
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Speaker 3: To the emson.

808
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Speaker 2: When they call it a touchdown, they do want a

809
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Speaker 2: run by James Connor.

810
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Speaker 13: If you think of anybody who's done something great in

811
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 13: the game of footballs, you know it's probably a time

812
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 13: when they back was against the wall. You know, everybody

813
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 13: was counting them out, and I know it's just so

814
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Speaker 13: unexpected for them to do something really big. So yeah,

815
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Speaker 13: that's the position we enter right now. It's a position

816
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Speaker 13: to do something great adversity, that's what makes it shin

817
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Speaker 13: for you.

818
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Speaker 5: Love the attitude of Cardinals running back James Connor, who

819
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 5: is a larger voice in that room now given all

820
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Speaker 5: the offseason changes, but one of those guys that is

821
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Speaker 5: returning from a disappointing twenty twenty two season, Connor led

822
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Speaker 5: the team in rushing yards seven and eighty two despite

823
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Speaker 5: only playing thirteen games. The question is how much more

824
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Speaker 5: what we see of James Connor. That's been a big

825
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Speaker 5: topic of conversation so far this offseason. Before we get

826
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Speaker 5: the Paul Calvic and Kyle Vanenbosch, myself, Craig Realu, how

827
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Speaker 5: about we hear from Colt McCoy, who on Monday kind

828
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Speaker 5: of opened up the door on what to expect.

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Speaker 10: Offensively, we stayed in like ten personnel and eleven personnel

830
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Speaker 10: a lot right with Cliff and that was sort of

831
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Speaker 10: our identity. I think here we'll implement more two tight

832
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Speaker 10: end sets and you know, running the football and having

833
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Speaker 10: more like checks and alerts and things like that. Will

834
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Speaker 10: that will get James going, hopefully get him in the

835
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Speaker 10: right looks. And the offensive line has done a tremendous

836
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Speaker 10: job this offsese. I think that's been the best part

837
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Speaker 10: of everything is Clayton has got those guys you know,

838
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Speaker 10: dialed into you know what we're doing. Who who were

839
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Speaker 10: blocking different fronts.

840
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Speaker 5: That Clayton references offensive line coach Clayton Adams. But you

841
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 5: look a year ago, Kyle, the run pass ratio thirty

842
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 5: eight to sixty two, sixty two percent of the snaps

843
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 5: last year, Cardinals through the ball. I'm not going to

844
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 5: say we're gonna be reversed this upcoming season, but it's

845
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 5: gonna be much more balanced than we've seen in recent years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it just felt like they ran just to try to,

847
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 6: you know, give some semblance of a run game. Last year,

848
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 6: and and and again we talked about this. I think

849
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: last week you get the feeling this offense is going

850
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 6: to be run to set up the pass, whereas in

851
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 6: the past it was the pass to set up the run.

852
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's it's it's as old as football.

853
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 6: But if a defense, there's there's no better feeling than

854
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 6: when an offense can continually pick up four or five

855
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 6: yards on the ground. And there's no more helpless feeling

856
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 6: when you're on defense, particularly on the defensive line, when

857
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 6: the offense is just getting chunks in the run game.

858
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Speaker 6: I mean not thirty yard runs, but like four or

859
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Speaker 6: five six yard runs and you can't stop it. And

860
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Speaker 6: you know, you if that's the case, if you can't

861
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 6: stop the run, you can't stop anything, and and that

862
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: will always hold true in the game of football. And

863
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Speaker 6: you know, it's it's it's to me. You know, the

864
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 6: game has to a degree gone to more of a spread.

865
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Speaker 6: Let's get the ball out, let's go no huddle, and

866
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Speaker 6: let's get the ball to our receivers. But when you

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Speaker 6: come back in your contrarian and you are a physical

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Speaker 6: football team and you're playing week fifteen, week sixteen, week seventeen,

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Speaker 6: that is tough for a defense. When you've been playing

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Speaker 6: passing team, passing team, passing team, Well, here comes a

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Speaker 6: run first offense.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 6: And you better bring an extra chin strap and get

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Speaker 6: a bunch of air in your helmet because my hands hurt,

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Speaker 6: my shoulders hurt, and my.

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Speaker 3: Entire body hurts.

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Speaker 6: And now here comes this big, physical offense that continues

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Speaker 6: to pound the ball at you. You know, that's kind

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Speaker 6: of a bit of an old school brand of football,

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Speaker 6: but it works, and it's tough to stop. And you know,

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Speaker 6: when you get to December and hopefully January and you're

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs, you need to have the ability to

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Speaker 6: run the football.

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Speaker 7: I tell you, James Connor was asked a little simple

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Speaker 7: question what he liked the most about the new offense,

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Speaker 7: and he said right away that we're going to run

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Speaker 7: the ball a lot. And he wasn't smiling. He's been

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Speaker 7: all business this offseason. I followed up towards the end

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Speaker 7: and I asked him my Paully pencil neck question, James,

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Speaker 7: you are you averaged more than five yards of carry

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Speaker 7: last year a lot, but you didn't get that many carries?

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Speaker 7: You stumping for more carries? And he said, talk is cheap.

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Speaker 7: I got to show it. I got to earn it.

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Speaker 7: But I tell you, I look at the running back room.

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Speaker 7: I look at the fact that Cardinals are most likely

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Speaker 7: going to start the season, we presume with a backup quarterback. Yes,

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Speaker 7: there'll be a renewed emphasis on the run game. And

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Speaker 7: James Connor has that look in his eye of a

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Speaker 7: player in a contract year. And we know what happened

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Speaker 7: in his first year with the Cardinals when he was

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Speaker 7: gunning for a contract and he was Pro Bowl caliber.

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Speaker 5: This last note before we put a bow on this

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Speaker 5: edition of the Cardinals Red Seat Reports, Welcome back Aaron Brewer.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals long snapper has been re signed, so something to

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Speaker 5: pay attention to. Don't always talk about special teams, but

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Speaker 5: very consistent when you talk about Aaron Brewer. Much more

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Speaker 5: on that in the days and weeks ahead. Special thanks

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Speaker 5: behind the scenes, Jamalma Hundro, Cody Fitcher. We'll talk to

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Speaker 5: you next week. You're on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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