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Speaker 1: And and Tye, welcome back to the solid Purba boys

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Speaker 1: and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandt. Joining me is

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Speaker 1: New York City. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, ty, I'm pretty good. I considered stopping

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Speaker 2: and I ate a lot of food, So my discipline

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Speaker 2: to stay the course was actually pretty admirable. Unlike Melt Talk, Mel.

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Speaker 1: Tucker, We're going to get into the El Tucker news

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Speaker 1: here momentarily Today's Q and A Show, or at least

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Speaker 1: verballerhood at large. So what you did is went out

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Speaker 1: Little wine. You don't even like wine.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. You mentioned mel Tucker at the top.

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Speaker 1: Melt Tucker has reversed course, So Meltucker head football coach,

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Speaker 2: It's not, you know, Larry Scott's fault that you know,

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Speaker 2: or tighter under Paul christ.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Next question shares Wisconsin's really good and fun at football.

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Speaker 2: They need a game changing quarterback and I don't think

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Speaker 2: they've had one since Russell Wilson. And that was not

437
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Speaker 2: an accident, but that was a happy occurrence to receive

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Speaker 2: somebody as talented did Russell Wilson. I just the talent

439
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Speaker 2: isn't necessarily there. There's certainly a tier below recruiting wise,

440
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Speaker 2: and bringing in blue chips to absolutely compete and win

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Speaker 2: a Big Ten championship over presumably Ohio State and then

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Speaker 2: win two games against teams like Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So no, I think probably not,

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Speaker 2: but I'll never say never. I'll say there's a one

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Speaker 2: point six percent chance.

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Speaker 1: I am not rooting against their chances. But no, I

447
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Speaker 1: tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 2: No, nicelys that just came into Madison as well. Jack

449
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Speaker 2: wants to know who should Colorado hire and by the time,

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Speaker 2: do you want to just react to every potential hire

451
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Speaker 2: we see happening?

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Speaker 1: Well, we joked around on the mysterious g Chat earlier

453
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Speaker 1: today that they were going to announce Brett Bielma at

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Speaker 1: six oh eight pm Eastern time, shortly after we hit

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Speaker 1: the stop button, because like all big announcements in college football,

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Speaker 1: it always happens immediately after we hit the stop button

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Speaker 1: on a podcast, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not a college football podcast unless you complain

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Speaker 2: about the timing of coaching news.

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Speaker 1: So who are who are the likely candidates here? Brett

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Speaker 1: Beielma's one.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Troy Calhoun and Brett Bielima. There was a

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Speaker 2: report from football Scoop. I saw today as we record

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday, the what's the nineteenth? Yeah, that an announcement

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Speaker 2: could come as early as tomorrow, so shift time with us.

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Speaker 2: But I think both of those hires. What's the opposite

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Speaker 2: of hot and bothered? Cold and comfortable?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't both. I don't know those either of

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Speaker 1: those options, do you?

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Speaker 2: I like the literal option that Troy Calhoun and what

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Speaker 2: that offense looks like at its best. But I would

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Speaker 2: just go get Ken Neo modalolo engage his interest. Maybe

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Speaker 2: he wasn't interested in Colorado, but I would. I would

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Speaker 2: go for the dude doing this option thing. Man, I

475
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Speaker 2: can't what I can't get into it. Colorado is a

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Speaker 2: job that if you take Colorado to nine wins, you're

477
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Speaker 2: probably gonna leave unless you went there or are a

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Speaker 2: West Coast guy, and that's where you want to coach

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Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve. If Brett Bilma goes to Boulder

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Speaker 2: and goes nine to three, he's just gonna leave and

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Speaker 2: we're back here.

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Speaker 1: Who wants to Bilma? Though?

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Speaker 2: I mean he had a he had a nice year

484
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Speaker 2: at Arkansas singular singular, and a really nice run at Wisconsin. Now,

485
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Speaker 2: he's been in the NFL. Arkansas is a tough place

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Speaker 2: to win, and he had a singular good year. Troy

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Speaker 2: Calhoun doesn't really do it for me. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: know exactly what he'll run. Ken Neo Moodalolo talked about

489
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Speaker 2: adjusting his offense when he was under consideration for the

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Speaker 2: Arizona job, and you know, perhaps it's it's a different

491
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Speaker 2: style offense than what he's done in previous years, but

492
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Speaker 2: the air Force defense is these past like it. Basically

493
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Speaker 2: his entire era have not been good. And I understand

494
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Speaker 2: it's tough to build a good defense when that's what

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Speaker 2: your offense runs. But that's that's tough. I would trust

496
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Speaker 2: ken Ney Madololo more. That's all that's that to me,

497
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Speaker 2: is is better. I know Eric Bienemy's name came around.

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Speaker 2: He was the offensive coordinator there like a twenty eleven,

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve all time bad Colorado offenses. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's on him. Has succeeded with the Chiefs. I think

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Speaker 2: he can do better than Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Again, we love Boulder and we like Colorado football being good.

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Speaker 1: I'm mixed on the Brett bielm The thing I don't

505
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Speaker 1: think that culturally he is a good fit. But I

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Speaker 1: am interested stylistically in what a version of his old

507
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Speaker 1: offense could do in the Pact. Now, if he could

508
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Speaker 1: rebuild essentially, uh, what he had at Wisconsin with a

509
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Speaker 1: beast offensive line, in a really solid running game, and

510
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Speaker 1: just like a really good game manager at quarterback, you

511
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Speaker 1: could go places in the You could win nine games

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Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve with that pretty easily.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's because he was at Colorado State, but Jim

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Speaker 2: mckaway just looks like a Colorado coach. He just looks

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Speaker 2: as like, Yeah, that dude runs out with a buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Did I see that they were considering

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Speaker 1: Jim Mora?

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Speaker 2: Of course, anyway's post job, Jim Mora's name comes up,

519
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: great age retreads. Good lord, Okay, I don't. I mean

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00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: Darren Shiverini. Shiverini, who's been there for a few years assistant, right,

521
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Speaker 2: I know he's been under consideration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a. It's a. It's another tough job. Next question,

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Speaker 1: Next question, Dan, let's go to let's go to left coast. Kane. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Did the Miami Hurricanes win the off season? Okay,

525
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: this is a loaded question. Headed into spring ball, they

526
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Speaker 1: went six and seven. They landed a new offensive coordinator

527
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Speaker 1: and Rhet Lashley, the top two players in the transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: They hired Ed Reid. They finished with the number thirteen

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Speaker 1: recruiting class and six under armour all Americans. Wow. So

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Speaker 1: I was under the impression that they sort of won

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Speaker 1: the off season last year when they got Manny Diaz.

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Speaker 1: We did a whole thing on how you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's bringing the swagger back to Miami. That did not

534
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Speaker 1: work out according to the plane here. But now we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're another bite at the apple. Dan, Did they win

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Speaker 1: this offseason?

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Speaker 2: I mean I've always I've long said, Miami and USC

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Speaker 2: our sister schools in USC man those recruiting classes, the

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Speaker 2: assistant hires, the transfers.

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Speaker 1: All every is htt Lashley good. Yeah, that's a question.

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Speaker 1: Is he is he? Actually?

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Speaker 2: So his offense is whether or not he's called the plays.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's been like the architect because

544
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Speaker 2: it's been with Gus Melzan and most recently Sunny Dykes

545
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Speaker 2: at SMU. His offenses have succeeded with other people building

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Speaker 2: those offenses, and so Auburn's offense seemed to get worse

547
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Speaker 2: the more he was empowered.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't in the room.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, but that's what it seems that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Nick Marshall offenses were really fun, and

551
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Speaker 2: then when they went into the post Nick Marshall world

552
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Speaker 2: where at Lashley seemed to have more responsibility and what

553
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Speaker 2: they weren't as good.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know about that. And the transfer portal thing.

556
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Speaker 2: The Eric King certainly promising Quincy Roche. I think his

557
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Speaker 2: name is from Temple the edge rusher really strong for

558
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Speaker 2: Temple ed Reid. If he can play safety, he's able

559
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Speaker 2: to play. I don't know exactly. I think he's what

560
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Speaker 2: the head of personnel, chief of staff, something like that.

561
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Speaker 2: So hopefully that's a good influence on people caring at Miami.

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Speaker 2: It's just what does the offense look like?

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Speaker 1: That's all it is.

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Speaker 2: And so winning the off season, I don't know. I

565
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Speaker 2: like what Oregon's done personally, hiring Joe Morehead, recruiting well,

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Speaker 2: keeping Mariho crist of all, all of those things have

567
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Speaker 2: been positive for me. There's a number of teams who've

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Speaker 2: had decent enough off seasons. Tennessee finishing with a really

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Speaker 2: nice recruiting class and finishing their year. I think the

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Speaker 2: momentum is nice for Tennessee. Sure, I think winning the

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Speaker 2: off season is an important thing if you're Miami. So yes,

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Speaker 2: I will say yes, sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean I like the fact that Manny Diaz is

574
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Speaker 1: pulling out the stops here and seemingly trying to build

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Speaker 1: a better program, trying to make an immediate impact. But

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Speaker 1: I would hope so, yeah, you know, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: reason for optimism. But I was very optimistic going into

578
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Speaker 1: this last season and that did not work out at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Derek King behind that same offensive line won't be amazing.

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Speaker 2: Coda writes in when will be the next time?

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Speaker 1: So get out your crystal ball here, Dan, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: next time a team west of the Mississippi wins a

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Speaker 1: national title? And who will it be? Wow, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to translate this.

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Speaker 2: When will a team west of the Mississippi win a

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Speaker 2: national title?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: How we would edit that? And who is going to

589
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Speaker 2: be that team? I think the easiest answers would be

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Speaker 2: And I had to look up exactly the border of

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Speaker 2: the Mississi too, actually, So if you are back and

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Speaker 2: forth about Minnesota, they count Minneapolis is West believe if

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: my research is correct, so Iowa, if that's a team

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Speaker 2: that you're considering Nebraska, who will it be? I think

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Speaker 2: the earliest is probably twenty twenty one would be the earliest.

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Speaker 2: And I would have it as probably Oregon, Washington, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: And I would say Oregon or Washington because I think

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Speaker 2: the aths are easier for them if the PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: remains somewhat down at the top, Okay, see what happens

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Speaker 2: with Washington quarterback. But I'm pretty confident Washington can build

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Speaker 2: a borderline championship defense.

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Speaker 1: Se I'm not feeling you on the Washington vibe. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I love hyping up Washington. I know, I know you

604
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Speaker 1: do it every year. I look, Jimmy Lake could work out.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of reason to believe that Jimmy Lake

606
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Speaker 1: will work out. I'm always skeptical on new coaches. You

607
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Speaker 1: don't care if I watched John Donovan offenses. I have

608
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Speaker 1: watched Joses thank you. Oh, I'm sorry. Implosive implosive implosive. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: So forgive me if I'm a little bit skeptical. I

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Speaker 1: share your optimism on Oregon. I've got Oregon in my

611
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Speaker 1: contenders list as well, because recruiting has been strong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mario Chris Ball has played a much more physical brand

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Speaker 1: I think of football, especially on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the football. Bring that sec mentality, bringing that sec mentality

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Speaker 1: to the Pacific Northwest. So more to come on that front.

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Speaker 1: Say the least, I like Oregon, I like Oklahoma or

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma kind of goes without saying they've been not I

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Speaker 1: almost want to disqualify Oklahoma. Well, they're in here. This

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Speaker 1: is the question. I've seen them in the playoff.

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Speaker 2: I have not seen the current iteration of Oregon against

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Speaker 2: We'll see them against Ohio State early next year. I've

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Speaker 2: not seen them on that stage. So I cannot say

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Speaker 2: with certainty that there is a good chance they're going

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Speaker 2: to get blown out with Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: You can, you can, you can't. I let me throw

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Speaker 1: Texas A and m out there. A coach that's been

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Speaker 1: there before. That's just such a tough path though, it's

628
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Speaker 1: a very tough path, but it's a coach that's been

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Speaker 1: there before in Jimbo Fisher. It's a recruiting situation that's

630
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Speaker 1: been very strong in the last two years, especially this year,

631
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Speaker 1: very very good. He's building depth. He's also got a

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Speaker 1: lot coming back from season. So it's a good situation

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Speaker 1: in college station. I don't know how soon it is,

634
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: and I know Alabama is still recruiting and still playing

635
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: at a very very high level. But what the post

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00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: to Alabama looks like remains somewhat to be seen.

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Speaker 2: I have a guest, I think they're gonna look like Alabama.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna look incredible, I'm sure, but there is some

639
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: turnover there that maybe they can take advantage of. The

640
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: SEC West is baller. Obviously, LSU just won a national championship.

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00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good situation as well. LC is going

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00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: to take a minute to get back to where they were,

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Speaker 1: though I believe that's accurate. So A and M is

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Speaker 1: interesting to me. The two programs that aren't on either

645
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: of our lists are Texas and USC.

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Speaker 2: I would put Texas ahead of Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: I would put Texas A and M ahead of Texas

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Speaker 2: if they were still in the Big twelve. It's a

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Speaker 2: path thing to me, and as open as the SEC

650
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Speaker 2: West appears to be. With a new full time starting

651
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Speaker 2: quarterback for Alabama and some consistency issues in retaining assistance,

652
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Speaker 2: Alabama is still crazy talented. LSU should field still really

653
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Speaker 2: good sides the ball, offense and defense should still be

654
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Speaker 2: interesting enough. The Mississippi schools are not national title contenders.

655
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Speaker 2: Auburn is a perennial, dangerous at times team. The path

656
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Speaker 2: is just more difficult and I cannot right now. I mean,

657
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Speaker 2: this year will have Kellen Mond and I just moving forward.

658
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Speaker 2: There's nothing that tells me texts A and M can

659
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Speaker 2: come over like two humps right now, whereas with Texas

660
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Speaker 2: it looks like it's only one hump.

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Speaker 1: What if right now? What if Nick Saban retires in

662
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Speaker 1: two years. Sure, we've been saying that since twenty fifteen

663
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Speaker 1: he may be indestructible, but if and when he retires,

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Speaker 1: that could upset the balance of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a long time for USC.

666
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: It was a long time before they were really good

667
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Speaker 2: and it's been a long time since. So all right,

668
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Speaker 2: they had the Sam Donald dear and.

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Speaker 1: That was that. Jeremy says, I know you guys love

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Speaker 1: to do restaurant recommendations, but what about stadium recommendations? What's

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Speaker 1: on your bucket list for college football stadiums to attend

672
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Speaker 1: and which ones have you been to that verballers should

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Speaker 1: go to. So for those listeners who do not know

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Speaker 1: the full story of how this show came to fruition,

675
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: Dan used to do a digital series for SI dot

676
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Speaker 1: com called The College Football Tour Guy. The SI Tour

677
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Guy as he was later known. You visited a lot

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Speaker 1: of college football stadiums, so your resume, at least in

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Speaker 1: this sense, is far deeper than mine. What are your

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Speaker 1: recommendations here.

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin in terms of putting it all together? Game environment,

682
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: Tailgating town is really strong in the Big Ten. I've

683
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: enjoyed going to some of the like the cocktail party.

684
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: It's not a college town. I would if you're looking

685
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Speaker 2: at bucket list stuff, maybe don't go to a neutral

686
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Speaker 2: site game. In terms of places I haven't been that

687
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: i'd like to go, I still haven't been to the Plane,

688
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: so I haven't been to an Auburn game. I haven't

689
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Speaker 2: been to Stillwater or Norman. I'd like to go to

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Speaker 2: both of those places I haven't been to. I'm not

691
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Speaker 2: dying to go to a Florida State or Miami game,

692
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Speaker 2: but I would. That's just not top of my list

693
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Speaker 2: where some of other you know, the smaller college towns are.

694
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Speaker 2: Clemson's a really good time if it's a big game.

695
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Speaker 2: They just don't play that many big games with what

696
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Speaker 2: the ACC is like right now. Sure, unless I guess

697
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: Notre Dame comes to town or if you know, North

698
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: Carolina or Louisville continue to improve. What else is on

699
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Speaker 2: my Tennessee is wild. I love my time at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: That is a just enormous undertaking. Oregon and Washington are

701
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Speaker 2: both fun out west in the Pacific Northwest, it's you know,

702
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Speaker 2: even though Seattle's not a college town that stadiums run

703
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: on the lake as well, it's a good time. I'm

704
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Speaker 2: trying to think other bucket lists. I Wisconsin to me

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Speaker 2: is in the Midwest, Notre Dame is a good time,

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Speaker 2: but South Bend didn't really move the needle for me.

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Speaker 2: But the actual Notre Dame campus and stadium was pretty incredible.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would say in the Midwest, go to

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Speaker 2: Madison would be my verdict. And in the South, lsu

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Speaker 2: or Ole Miss l it's.

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Speaker 1: Your ole, miss Okay. I'm gonna go with your recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Go with bands recommendation. George is also a great time.

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Speaker 1: Georgia was a good time. I enjoyed my enjoyed my game,

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Speaker 1: and I saw at Georgia. Yeah, which new higher This

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Speaker 1: is from MSU jargon great, which New Hire will win

716
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Speaker 1: the most games next year? And which coaches will be

717
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Speaker 1: on the hot seat in twenty twenty. So we're just

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Speaker 1: skipping over twenty twenty here and going right to the end.

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Speaker 1: So here's a quick listing of new coaches. We've got

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Speaker 1: Sam Pittman at Arkansas, Eli Drinkwoit's at Missou, Mike Leech

721
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Speaker 1: at Mississippi State, Jeff Haffley Boston College, Mike Norvelle Florida State,

722
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake at Washington we mentioned him earlier, Mel Tucker

723
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Speaker 1: at Michigan State. We've got Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss.

724
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Speaker 1: We've got Greg Ciano at Rutgers, Ryan Silverfield Memphis, Jeff

725
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Speaker 1: Scott USF Dave Randa Baylor, Kaylin de Boor at Fresno State.

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Speaker 1: We've got Brady Hokee at San Diego State, And did

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Speaker 1: I mention Todd Graham Graham at Old There.

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Speaker 2: Are more than this, but these are the ones I

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Speaker 2: guess we'll consider.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so of these here, Yeah, who who strikes

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Speaker 1: you as being in the best situation too, let's say

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Speaker 1: win the most games and or potentially make a make

733
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Speaker 1: a big Bowl game.

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Speaker 2: So there's only a couple of them where the coaches

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Speaker 2: left because the situation was good and they decided to

736
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Speaker 2: retire or move on to a bigger job. And so

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Speaker 2: it's Ryan Silverfield at Memphis, Jimmy Lake and Washington Nick Rolovich.

738
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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention Nick Rolovich at Rolovich Washington State. Yes,

739
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Speaker 2: obviously Jeff Tedford retired for health reasons from Fresno State.

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Speaker 2: San Diego State is in a good situation, especially on defense,

741
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Speaker 2: and Baylor in bringing in David Randon to replace your

742
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Speaker 2: guy Matt Ruhle heading to the Carolina Panthers. So a

743
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Speaker 2: lot of like continuity schools, I'm probably gonna say Ryan

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Speaker 2: Silverfield at Members I've got him highlighted returning quarterback, non

745
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Speaker 2: major conference but semi major conference, depending on where your

746
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Speaker 2: brain's at. I think he's in a good situation continuity wise,

747
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Speaker 2: whereas a lot of these guys are either in very

748
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Speaker 2: tough divisions, tough conferences, or are inheriting a talent level

749
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Speaker 2: that's probably year two, three years away. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go with Ryan Silverfield here I agree.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, all right, Taylor says, tell me something good

752
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Speaker 1: about Texas Tech football. Oh, Alan Bowman's good. Alan Bowman's good.

753
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Speaker 1: They've also got a terrific home schedule. They have a

754
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Speaker 1: good scat next year. They've got Baylor, Texas.

755
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Speaker 2: And Oklahoma all at home. Their defense was probably their

756
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 2: best defense and now the Big twelve is very different

757
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: in twenty nine, but probably the best defense since like

758
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. Yeah, something like that. To set up points

759
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Speaker 2: per drive was like seventy seventh, which is a revelation

760
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Speaker 2: to just being kind of below average. So it's going

761
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Speaker 2: to be an interesting year. Alan Bowman seems to always

762
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Speaker 2: get hurt, so sometimes quarterbacks get hurt a lot and

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Speaker 2: then they just don't and hopefully that's what happens to

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: He also says actual questions, so apparently that wasn't his

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Speaker 1: real question. Oh okay, how does the Pac twelves continued

767
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Speaker 1: dissent impact the overall landscape of college football if it

768
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Speaker 1: doesn't improve in the next few years? How does realignment

769
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Speaker 1: look for West Coast football? So does he mean realignment

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Speaker 1: in a figurative or a literal sense? Because I am

771
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Speaker 1: here for the literal sense if we mean like that

772
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Speaker 1: like Pangaea.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's do that thing again, land masses rejiggering.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's get Chip Brown online one, Let's do this

775
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Speaker 1: thing over again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the West Coast literally breaking off the rest of

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Speaker 2: the country and floated to the Pacific, right right, it

778
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Speaker 2: makes it worse. I mean, the Pac twelve playing interesting

779
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Speaker 2: games on a channel that everybody gets is a net

780
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Speaker 2: positive for everybody involved. I don't know if and when

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Speaker 2: that happens, So I think he's probably asking, like, does

782
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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve and Big twelve do they merge? That

783
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Speaker 2: seems to be the underlying part of his question. I

784
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Speaker 2: don't think so, but I can't swear that it won't happen. Yeah,

785
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Speaker 2: it is important for every single major conference to have

786
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Speaker 2: impressive teams at the top and good enough teams in

787
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Speaker 2: the middle that any given week something weird can happen,

788
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Speaker 2: sort of like where the Big twelve I think more

789
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Speaker 2: often than not has been Maybe what the SEC looked

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Speaker 2: like in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen when Ole Miss became

791
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Speaker 2: a player, what the ACC was like with you know,

792
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Speaker 2: the annual Clemson Florida State but also you know, Louisville's

793
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Speaker 2: hanging around Teddy Bridgewater, all these teams. That's what you want,

794
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Speaker 2: and that's where the PAC twelve isn't. The PAC twelve

795
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Speaker 2: has chunks of impressive teams at different places. You know,

796
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Speaker 2: ASU here and there, USC's offense Utah until they have

797
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 2: to play talented teams Oregon when they're not let down

798
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Speaker 2: against a team like ASU or finishing the Auburn game

799
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Speaker 2: in that way. They need that quality of the top.

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Speaker 2: They need two really strong teams at the top and

801
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Speaker 2: then four teams after that that it had their act together.

802
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Speaker 2: You know, get that three out of three on the

803
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Speaker 2: competence test that we did on the twos cruise midway

804
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Speaker 2: through the year. And I'm not confident in it.

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Speaker 1: I really am not.

806
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Speaker 2: So I think college football is just going to continue

807
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: to suffer without a decent PAC twelve.

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Speaker 1: So we just move Arizona and Arizona State, along with

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Speaker 1: Colorado and Utah over into the Big twelve. I guess

810
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Speaker 1: they'd have fourteen teams at that point, so I have

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Speaker 1: the back to the pack eight I think, so, yeah,

812
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Speaker 1: that will be eight.

813
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really a solution is to take out teams

814
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Speaker 2: and fan bases oh, I am, I am here for this.

815
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Speaker 2: You take out maybe the best one of the best

816
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Speaker 2: two college basketball teams in the conference in Arizona or programs. Yeah,

817
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: that's a very strange okay, maybe the only consistently good

818
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Speaker 2: team football wise in Utah.

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Speaker 1: Jake says, what traditionally bad program would you want to

820
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Speaker 1: suddenly become a national power? Yeah? The example he uses

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Speaker 1: here is Ucla. He says, UCLA is now the best

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Speaker 1: team in the Pac twelve and a consistent top ten teams.

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Speaker 1: So he says, traditionally bad program. I guess, yeah, which

824
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Speaker 1: is kind of misleading, Like, yeah, is Ucla traditionally bad?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they go that far.

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Speaker 2: So if we were to shift this to like underperforming underperforming, yeah,

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Speaker 2: given what we consider to be a higher ceiling than

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Speaker 2: what they've shown.

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Speaker 1: I actually did take this in a more literal sense,

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Speaker 1: traditionally bad. So I went through each Power five conference

831
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Speaker 1: and identified the schools that I would want to root

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Speaker 1: for to suddenly become that national power in the ACC

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Speaker 1: For me at Syracuse, Syracuse has been traditionally pretty bad. Yeah, okay,

834
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Speaker 1: And I've always been a fan of Otto the Orangeman. Yeah.

835
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Speaker 1: Out of the Orange, So for me, it's Syracuse. Also,

836
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Speaker 1: the Carrier Dome just a weird place to play. I

837
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Speaker 1: do enjoy that element more notoriety for the Carrier Dome

838
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Speaker 1: in Syracuse, and the Orange is pretty exciting. Iowa State

839
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Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve now, maybe not so much recently,

840
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Speaker 1: but Iowa State's been a doormat for a long time

841
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Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve and I've enjoyed what's going on

842
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: there under Matt Campbell, and I'd love to see more

843
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Speaker 1: of it. So Iowa State the national power.

844
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Speaker 2: Iowa State is an easy, easy answer, just because those games,

845
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Speaker 2: when the big Games and ames are always fun.

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Speaker 1: In the Big Ten, Minnesota is really interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota had a renaissance this past year and PJ Fleck

848
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: is trying to build them up accordingly. But they play

849
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Speaker 1: in an outdoor stadium in the middle of winter. It's

850
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: maybe not the easiest place to recruit to, but it

851
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: definitely poses an interesting challenge if you're a team having

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Speaker 1: to go to Minneapolis in mid to late November.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have Nebraska as a super strong team in Minnesota.

854
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Speaker 1: But they're not traditionally bad.

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Speaker 2: Maybe underwhelming, modern underwhelming.

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Speaker 1: Modern underwhelming. Okay, I could get behind that too.

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Speaker 2: But Minnesota is currently peaking, and he used the example

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Speaker 2: of top ten Ucla and you are pointing out Minnesota,

859
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Speaker 2: who literally.

860
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Speaker 1: Just finished the season.

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Speaker 2: I know, but traditionally they've been very bad. I don't

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Speaker 2: think no, Minnesota has not been traditionally very bad. They

863
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: have been an average program. Oh, come on, they've been

864
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: They're a perennial bowl.

865
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: Program, are they. Yeah, look that one up. Okay, I'll

866
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: look at it. If I'm wrong, yell at me, I'll

867
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: take Okay, Okay, Pac twelve, Pack twelve, I've got cal.

868
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: I think i'd rather have Ucla. They're playing the Rose Bowl.

869
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: They've had big names come through their Chip Kelly's there now,

870
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: so that means Chip Kelly's reigniting the program, which I

871
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: think is.

872
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: A positive thing. What about Arizona?

873
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Arizona's fine, They're fine. I think Ucla is just a

874
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 2: better answer.

875
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Do you know the one? Okay, it might be a

876
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: better answer. But the one thing that I find interesting about.

877
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: You, since nineteen ninety nine, Minnesota has four seasons where

878
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: they haven't been to a bowl game. Really, so since

879
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, if I'm going to add on the fly, seven, nine, fourteen, sixteen.

880
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: Out of.

881
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: Twenty one seasons, they've been to a Bowl game.

882
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I didn't know that. I'm going to leave

883
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: this in the show.

884
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: That was after a long gap. We thank you that

885
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: the Jim Whacker era, yeah, was not super kind.

886
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: All right, So there's a little something for everybody. If

887
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: you want to yell at me, at Suliver, well you

888
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: can yell at me. It's fine. Shout out Joe Salem,

889
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: shout out Murray Warmath. That's right, Stole. What I was

890
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: going to say, though, is the one thing that I

891
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it comes through on any of our shows, is,

892
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: of course you're mister Pac twelve, mister Oregon. Yeah, people

893
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: know that, but I don't think it ever truly comes through.

894
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Just how angry you are that Arizona isn't better.

895
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: I do want Arizona. Arizona is a great time. What

896
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: were we just discussing this with someone disappointing we were

897
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: we were just talking about this very point and Arizona

898
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: not being a boll team is the dumbest thing in

899
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: the world.

900
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: It comes through like fire on the Mysterious g Chat

901
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: when we talk about Arizona and you are genuinely, like

902
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: viscerally angry. Yeah, over the fact that this is not

903
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: a better football program.

904
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a legacy. My mom went to Arizona.

905
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah right, proud graduate.

906
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think UCLA is the better answer there. Uh.

907
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Colorado, I think is they're not print. They've won a

908
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 2: national championship, but it'd be better if Colorado were better.

909
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: I'd want probably, and they appear maybe to be on

910
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: an upswing. I'd love for Tennessee to be a power again, yeah,

911
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: and add some depth to the East there. I'd love

912
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: for Arkansas to be mixing it up once again. I

913
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: mean those like the run DMC teams. Yeah, amazing, amazingly

914
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: fun to have Arkansas on the mix.

915
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: At the top of the sport. I'm okay with both those. Yeah, yeah,

916
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: all right, where do you want to go next year?

917
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to let's go to Mike any tips for

918
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: being a new dad and watching college football? Now, this

919
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: is sort of we're doing a non college football and

920
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: not like a non college football part two to this

921
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: Q and A yes, but this is a college football

922
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: specific watch question, so I'm gonna do my best to

923
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: tie it specific to watch in college football uh. He

924
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: and his wife are expecting their first in August. So

925
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to strategize the fall and the college football

926
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: intake now.

927
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna sit this one out. No, Ty, I

928
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: think you should jump in. I could.

929
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm you have so many good answers when

930
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: you talk about things that you're not personally experienced with,

931
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: and so do I.

932
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I have a puppy, which isn't quite the same thing.

933
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: What so if you want, if you want feedback on

934
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: that side of things, Mike, I'd be happy to oblige.

935
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: But no, have you ever have you ever in person

936
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: when somebody is talking about their kids, say, listen, I

937
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: don't have a.

938
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: Killing that puppy. I listen, I have a puppy. So

939
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: if I can jump in right here, no, I haven't.

940
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: And I drop your kid off at obedience school while

941
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: you're at work, that's right, and you'll they'll give you

942
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: a certificate.

943
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: All right, so's what's what's the strategy here?

944
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: The strategy is to get your kid probably sleep training.

945
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: I have a couple recommendations as early as they'll let you,

946
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: so you get on a good schedule.

947
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: You're trying to get me to buy this from my

948
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: cousin who just reads.

949
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: I've got a really good recommendation, but I think I'm

950
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: gonna try to get them on board as a sponsor.

951
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: You gotta get him as a sponsor first.

952
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: You gotta get him as a sponsor first, because I

953
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: it will be the best reads I've done since I

954
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: told the world how much you love Manscape. That's right, great,

955
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: you gotta get them. You gotta get them on a

956
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: regular sleeping schedule. And then what you have to do

957
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: is to your spouse, say what do you want to

958
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: get done? Do you have errand's? Do you want to

959
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: take a nap? Do you want to go for a run,

960
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: do you want to visit, you know, hang out with

961
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: your friends? You let me know what you want to do,

962
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: because I want to go to the gym, and I

963
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: want to schedule that around the sleep schedule. And then

964
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: you go to the gym for the last hour of

965
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: a game you really want to watch. If you're in

966
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: make sure you go to a gym that has TVs

967
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: because I would also recommend your instinct is going to

968
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: be I need to sleep when the baby sleeps, and

969
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: that's right. But also sometimes instead of taking a nap,

970
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: you should go work out, because that's very good for

971
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: your brain and your body. So I would time up

972
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: gym visits with a TV or just like bring a

973
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: tablet that you can stream games on and just go

974
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: real slow on the treadmill, real slow on an ex

975
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: exercise bike and find that window of football watching you

976
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: want to watch, or just DVR games and do the

977
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: best job you can without finding out the results. And

978
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna be up in the middle of the night anyway,

979
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: probably either with your wife or solo if that's how

980
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: you're feeding, and you know, zoom through games that you

981
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 2: know two.

982
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: Forty four window, window of opportunity, window of opportunity, window

983
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: of opportunity, I think is I'm what I'm hearing here?

984
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: Okay, but do some do some time management negotiation and

985
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: be the one to say, when what do you want

986
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: to get done? I will watch the kid and then

987
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: time it up so your gym visit coincides with the

988
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: last hour at you.

989
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: That's it. Well, good luck to you, Mike, Congratulations, be giving.

990
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: Let's do like two or three more here, yes, and

991
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: call it a night. Austin Taos says, what do y'all think? Yeah?

992
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: Did I do the y'all right, I mean you've long done, y'all,

993
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: so yes, that was an improvement.

994
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: What do y'all think the ideal conference size slash structure

995
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: should be.

996
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill Connelly's pods obviously obviously get pods going, so

997
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: teams play each other more often than not, because what

998
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: do we have this We had Texas A and M

999
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: and Georgia playing for the first time since joining the

1000
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: same conference.

1001
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, So.

1002
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: I avoid situations like that with pods to schedule regularly

1003
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: occurring matchups.

1004
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: I like twelve. I like twelve. I like nine conference games,

1005
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: and the I guess the extra flavor that I would

1006
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: add to this, And I don't know how you could

1007
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: possibly enforce this, but I got twelve teams, nine conference games,

1008
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: and one, honest to goodness, try at a premium non

1009
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: con opponent.

1010
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't even need nine. I'm okay with eight if

1011
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: everybody's if everybody across the board is playing ten Power

1012
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: five games or something like that in the way that

1013
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: we have these you know, Clemson, South Carolina, Florida, Florida State,

1014
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: we have these inter conference annual matchups. If we get those,

1015
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: I'm fine with an eight game pod.

1016
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: System. Okay, I like the pod system, I just don't

1017
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: think it's realistic.

1018
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: Look up, look up Bill Connolly's pod system, and I

1019
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: think you will all be converts.

1020
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Converts because we can't do a Q and A show

1021
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: without a Jim Harbaugh question. This one for Abbot, says

1022
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: dear friend, Abbot, Dear friend, Abbot. He says, not that

1023
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a better option, but how many straight

1024
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: losses to Ohio State will hire ups at Michigan take

1025
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: before showing Harball the door? Abbit abbit, habit habit listen quote,

1026
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: Not that I think there's a better option end quote.

1027
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: Is doing a lot of work in this question, Dan, Yeah,

1028
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot of work here. I think it's far more

1029
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: likely that Jim Harbaugh finds a different gig, most likely

1030
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL, than Michigan ever firing him. Agree, disagree.

1031
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't care that much about Jim Harbaugh's job security,

1032
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: but I think the way he framed this question is right.

1033
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: That not that I think there's a better option. I

1034
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: think if I were to frame this question would be

1035
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: how many times can he lose to Penn State and

1036
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: or Wisconsin and or Iowa say before his seat warms up?

1037
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: I don't think Michigan has to consistently beat all of

1038
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: those teams every year before we can And we've talked

1039
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: about this before before. Ohio State is the measuring stick

1040
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: for Michigan. I know their arrival, but they're ahead. They're

1041
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: just ahead or as a program, and they're ahead by

1042
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: a considerable margin if you look at the recent scores.

1043
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I know there was the JT.

1044
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: Barrett game, but it doesn't look like Ohio State is

1045
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: going to have a quarterback who is similar to J. T.

1046
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: Barrett or has j T. Barrett's consistency limitations anytime soon.

1047
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: So beat those three teams in Michigan State. I mean,

1048
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: we'll see. I mean Michigan State is not in the

1049
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: position right now. I think of Iowa, Wisconsin and Penn State.

1050
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: But Michigan has to jump out of that group before

1051
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: we can say we only lost in another one of

1052
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I think it's just I think it's framed improperly,

1053
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: even if that's the reality. So I think if he

1054
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: loses the next three by three plus touchdowns, right, and

1055
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: it's the game that seals Michigan as a cements Michigan

1056
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: as a non double digit, that's cementsa nine and three season.

1057
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: I think it warms up, but there has to be

1058
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: an obvious person to ascend to that position, and the

1059
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: odds of that happening are not zero. But it seems

1060
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: sort of like a stretch, sort of like a stretch

1061
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: like Jim Harbaugh and having acrimony at San Francisco and

1062
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: having acrimony and ann arbor with Brady Hoke. That was obvious.

1063
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know who that obvious name is. I'll bet

1064
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: you it's not Less Miles. All right, Well we'll see, Yeah,

1065
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: we'll see. We did see offensive improvement towards the latter

1066
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: half of the year, so I think, at least on

1067
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: the coaching side of the offense, the move to go

1068
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: out and change the system up did yield some results

1069
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: later down the stretch. I don't know if that translates

1070
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: to beating Ohio State. I don't know if that translates

1071
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: into getting Michigan too a more stable spot. But I

1072
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: was encouraged by that at the minimum. So Grizzly Grizzly

1073
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: Web asks a fascin grizzly web, Okay, what can a

1074
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: school do to change the national perception that their school

1075
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: has a very toxic fan base, He adds here he's

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Speaker 2: a diehard Colgate fan.

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Speaker 1: No. Wow, I don't know if you thought about this

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Speaker 1: at all. I thought about it a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what a school can do. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even see this question. Yeah, it came.

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Speaker 2: It came in earlier today, or it was came in

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Speaker 2: pretty late on the subreddit soliverble do reddit dot com Join.

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Speaker 1: Now what I think a lot of this is dependent

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Speaker 1: on is maybe the fan communities.

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Speaker 2: Are there funny people, funny fans that are tweeting out

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Speaker 2: funny things or starting blogs or podcasts or video series

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Speaker 2: that they themselves come off as being somebody with a

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Speaker 2: sense of humor, somebody who doesn't take things too too seriously,

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Speaker 2: and somebody creating a sort of fan universe that you

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Speaker 2: want to be a part of because it doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: full of hate and toxics. So what you're saying is

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Speaker 2: that we have reopened our recruitment. Yeah, as a college

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Speaker 2: football entity, the soliverbal is open to changing its fan affiliation.

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Speaker 1: Can you to that point? Can you hire someone like

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Speaker 1: a Matthew McConaughey, Like a Matthew McConaughey. Of course you can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Texas was ever thought of as being toxic.

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Speaker 1: No, But like you, if you put Matthew McConaughey in

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Speaker 1: or on top of a really toxic situation, do you

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Speaker 1: think that would immediately revive the image of that fan base.

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Speaker 2: So I was going to actually go to Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M. Okay, not that I thought Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M was toxic, but it definitely appears to be a

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Speaker 2: fan base that can get too serious.

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Speaker 1: So if you took McConaughey, yeah, and transplanted him, forgot

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Speaker 1: about his Texas affiliation, right, and moved them over to

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Speaker 1: the A and M side of things, do you think

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Speaker 1: that was flaming this up? Well, I'm trying. It's one

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Speaker 1: of our last question. That's what it was he was saying.

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Speaker 2: So, for instance, like textags doesn't an incredible job covering

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Speaker 2: the Aggies, right, they are just one stop solution. They

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Speaker 2: produce a ton of content. I know they're affiliated or

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Speaker 2: war affiliated with the Athletic whatever it is. And it's

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Speaker 2: just like this, this grouping of diehards. I remember, like

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Speaker 2: Robert Gates was on textags, right, Secretary of Defense, like

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Speaker 2: you just have and so like I would always just

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Speaker 2: think about text saying M like, Okay, there's this this

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Speaker 2: ag and like military type school and they don't have

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Speaker 2: the history of top level success, but they expect it.

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Speaker 2: They're so serious. They're they're on message boards all year long.

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Speaker 2: They have these like crazy important people on there. And

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Speaker 2: then the good bull hunting people popped up and they

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Speaker 2: do an incredible job and they have like a sense

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Speaker 2: of humor and I always am excited to see what

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Speaker 2: they have to say about the Aggies and they do

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Speaker 2: really fun graphic and stuff like that. And that totally

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Speaker 2: altered my overly serious perception of Texas A and M

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Speaker 2: and their fan base because those guys are good at

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Speaker 2: what they do in terms of not going berserk and

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Speaker 2: having a little fun with it. Felt the same way

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Speaker 2: about some Iowa fans that are funny, like Spencer Hall

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Speaker 2: and Florida. Like when you have those prominent fans or

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Speaker 2: communities that do a good job of putting things in

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Speaker 2: perspective and getting a little wacky, that changes things for.

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Speaker 1: Me, Hmmm, fair or not? Okay, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 2: Because these are they're the most public facing fans if

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Speaker 2: you're asking about toxic because every every school has a

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Speaker 2: section of fans that are yelling at recruits online and

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Speaker 2: are poisoning trees and yelling terrible things to children wearing

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Speaker 2: the wrong colors at games. That exists everywhere. That's this

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Speaker 2: dumb sport that we love. But yeah, I think you

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Speaker 2: just got to get lucky with some of your public

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Speaker 2: facing fans.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say Russian disinformation, Dan, but

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Speaker 1: that's all. You have a much better thought out answer,

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Speaker 1: so we can go with that.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, Mike Golick Junior has done a

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Speaker 2: nice job of young and up Notre Dame. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's a very old angry Fanase not that angry

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Speaker 2: you've done.

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Speaker 1: Okay too, I'm not as well. I didn't play for

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. No, but all right, final question here from Peter.

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Speaker 1: All right, who has been your favorite player that you

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Speaker 1: discovered by accident? Example, you turn on Team X because

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Speaker 1: you've heard about their star tight end, but discover their

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Speaker 1: running back that no one else is talking about. He's

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Speaker 1: really the one who melts your butter. I love that

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Speaker 1: term melts your butter. So I have a very easy

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Speaker 1: one for me, and it probably doesn't quite fit the

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Speaker 1: example that he laid out. But for me, it's Clyde

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Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire. Oh, good answer.

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Speaker 2: For Ellis answer, good answer, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank That's what they tell you at game shows to do. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: for me, it's Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I had tuned in

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Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow all last season, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: every time I saw Clyde Edwards Lair, I came away impressed,

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Speaker 1: like I was seeing him with virgin eyes dan for

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Speaker 1: the first time. So Clyde Edwards Lair for me, it's

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Speaker 1: an easy answer.

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Speaker 2: This year he was He started the season as a backup,

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Speaker 2: but obviously Michael Cunningham to me, Michael Puma pass got

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Speaker 2: Saderfield's first year, they start running all over Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: and then things kind of go south. But then he's

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Speaker 2: a revelation for Louisville. Didn't originally tune in for him,

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Speaker 2: but there he was. I remember specifically, and maybe I'm misremembering,

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Speaker 2: but when Kansas State was really peaking seven, eight, nine

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Speaker 2: years ago with Colin Klein, it was like he's the

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Speaker 2: new t Bow and he would always he would always

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Speaker 2: do that sort of stutter, like it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a draw. And pop back or do little pop passes

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And Kansas State was winning a

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Speaker 2: lot of games. People were going into Manhattan thinking they

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Speaker 2: could come out with a win. What is it, Bruce

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Speaker 2: Snyder family whatever, and they didn't know. And I would

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Speaker 2: watch some of those games for Colin Kline, and I

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Speaker 2: guess the good people Samsung did too, because he's all

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Speaker 2: over their commercials. But then I saw who when he

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Speaker 2: would throw it, every time he threw it to this

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Speaker 2: one dude, he would catch it, and then they just

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Speaker 2: kept throwing it to him and nobody could cover him.

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Speaker 2: And I love that element more than I love Colin Kline.

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Speaker 2: And that was Tyler Lockett, Okay, And he just sort

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Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere for me that like, just

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Speaker 2: consistently he was dependable, he was unguardable. Those are the guys,

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Speaker 2: the receivers that just continue, like I mean this year

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Speaker 2: with Minnesota, that did it a little bit for me

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Speaker 2: that I was watching. Okay, let's see if Tanner Morgan

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Speaker 2: gets better than like they have. Arguably the maybe it's

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Speaker 2: not Ohio States level, but maybe the best receiving duo

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Speaker 2: in the conference. Tyler Johnson and or Sean Bateman. Those

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Speaker 2: types of surprises happen every year for me, it's happened

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Speaker 2: for teams I root for it, it happens for teams

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Speaker 2: I root against. I remember feeling that way about Buddha

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Speaker 2: Baker for Washington.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're just like damnd. It's everywhere, man, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Locket's such a good answer. I've had him stashed away

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Speaker 1: on my fantasy football bench for like five years, waiting

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Speaker 1: for him to pop, and it finally happens like the

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Speaker 1: last two years. Get it. Oh that's good. Yeah, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you one, thank you all for the questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't forget to go on out to that link I

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Speaker 1: Cliverrable at gmail dot com is always the email addressed.

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Speaker 2: In Yeah that's all I got. I think that's all

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Speaker 2: I have. I was listening to a podcast I really

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Speaker 2: enjoy that. I'm sure is much too big for me

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Speaker 2: shouting them out to do anything. But there's a show

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Speaker 2: called Two Bears, One Cave Tie. Oh nice couple, comedians

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Speaker 2: Thompsoner and Burt Kreischer, And on this week's episode they

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Speaker 2: made a point of over emphasizing love and it brought

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Speaker 2: me great joy. If you decide to listen to that show,

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Speaker 2: it's it's for mature audiences. It is not safe to

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Speaker 2: listen to at work out loud. But if you like

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Speaker 2: comedians and like podcasts, they do a great NSFW is

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Speaker 2: the NSFW. Lou make me very happy. I laughed on

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Speaker 2: a subway.

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Speaker 1: Platform for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Ty Hilde Brian, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: tuning into the show. We will catch you all in

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Speaker 1: a week. In the meantime, enjoy the rest of your week,

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Speaker 1: all of your weekend, and hey, stay so peace.