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Speaker 1: worth it happen to him. Uh what Riley is? Driley

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Speaker 1: From time to time, he'll you know, he'll do some

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Speaker 1: But it's nothing that you know, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: said players, why is that that would want to do that?

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez he can kick. He's been he's been bugging

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Speaker 1: if you ask you. No, not at all to uh

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Speaker 1: you know what. Will's has a soccer background, so it's

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Speaker 1: it's not the old toe punch. So is that I

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Speaker 1: to if we something happens. We're just like about with

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Speaker 1: fire game. You know. Ferrell Cooper is is what we

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Speaker 1: you know. So we just have to do a better

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Speaker 1: It does just seems rarer because the kick returned, you know,

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Speaker 1: Do you think that factors into this fact there's fewer

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