Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just getting ready for bed. Actually, I
Speaker 3: didn't know if i'd hear back from you.
Speaker 1: What's your name? Sailor?
Speaker 2: Alicia?
Speaker 1: Alicia? Alicia? You texted me and you said, uh, I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about my dating life. And then you
Speaker 1: said two things. You said, I attract men with the
Speaker 1: same kink over and over again by coincidence. And I
Speaker 1: also hate how men talk in Ohio. It's disturbing.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, this is true.
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, let's talk about that first. What is it
Speaker 1: about the way that men talk in Ohio that is
Speaker 1: disturbing you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's very weird. So I've hooked up with
Speaker 3: a couple of guys since I've moved here, and I
Speaker 3: want to say, like, I think probably four out of
Speaker 3: the five they're they're my age, so yeah, I'm in
Speaker 3: my late thirties, so they're mid mid thirties to forty,
Speaker 3: and they just when we're actually doing it, they they
Speaker 3: say like sweety and and hun like they're old men.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: I had the most disturbing thing that happened to me
Speaker 3: was I was doing it with this one guy and
Speaker 3: I don't want to get graphic, but we were in
Speaker 3: a certain position where he had some leverage.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, wait, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: First of all, I just listen. You can you can
Speaker 1: whatever you're comfortable talking about is up to you. But
Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, we were doing it and he was behind me,
Speaker 3: and he had like thrust in and I he said, like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know howes he.
Speaker 4: Said, oh Mama, like, okay, you you weren't a fan
Speaker 4: of that?
Speaker 1: You were a fan of Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, no, like who would be I I was cringing,
Speaker 3: like I oh god. I just kind of was like
Speaker 3: had my face in my hand, like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I can't believe this is happening.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so multiple go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So it's like these guys which I never encountered living
Speaker 3: in Maine, just like saying hon and sweetie, and then
Speaker 3: also apparently oh Mama, like I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: a Midwest like a nice thing, but it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Why why do you not like hun and Sweetie?
Speaker 3: Because it's not like they're really like nice guys. It's
Speaker 3: not like we have any sort of level of endearment
Speaker 3: and it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: They also.
Speaker 3: They also like to when they leave. This has also
Speaker 3: happened multiple times. They tell me I'll text you when
Speaker 3: I get home. Normally the guy would tell the girl
Speaker 3: text me when you get home. And it's not like
Speaker 3: they want to continue like a conversation. They will just
Speaker 3: literally go home and say I made at home. I'm home,
Speaker 3: like they're letting me know they made it home.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, And this is when guys are leaving
Speaker 1: your apartment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, after we hook up.
Speaker 1: Now, I'll say this, I think a hunt. I agree
Speaker 1: with you that Han and Sweetie are they're a little
Speaker 1: they're a little much. I wouldn't call a woman that
Speaker 1: I just met hun or sweety. If you have a
Speaker 1: rapport with a lady and you feel like I feel
Speaker 1: caught and sweet something you build up to. But sure,
Speaker 1: a one night stand. I don't know if we're throwing
Speaker 1: out to haunt the sweetie the mama.
Speaker 3: It was sark.
Speaker 1: And do you do you are these guys that you're
Speaker 1: seeing recurringly or guys that you're just like hooking up with,
Speaker 1: uh kind of on a one off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see the one guy more than one.
Speaker 3: He was a he was a sweetie guy because he
Speaker 3: just like did some other things that intrigued me, but
Speaker 3: it was not worth it to see him again. And
Speaker 3: but yeah, these are just people that I'm like meeting
Speaker 3: on Tinder and chatting with a little bit. There's there's
Speaker 3: there's really no report.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting that there's guys in their forties on
Speaker 1: Tinder because I just so heavily associate Tinder with like
Speaker 1: my late teens in early twenties.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, No, it's really sad. Like I'm thirty
Speaker 3: nine and I have an associates degree in an allied
Speaker 3: health profession. I didn't like it, so I went back
Speaker 3: to waitressing and bartending, and I am in this weird
Speaker 3: category of people where it's like the people on Tinder
Speaker 3: are either like really fucked up, like doctors, or like
Speaker 3: men who travel all over the world and like, obviously
Speaker 3: there's something wrong with you, or it's a fake profile,
Speaker 3: or it's like just a growth person working at like
Speaker 3: a gas station, and it's like I'm not I'm too
Speaker 3: good for most of the people and like not good
Speaker 3: enough for the other portion of people that are on
Speaker 3: Tender in my age groups, it's wild out there.
Speaker 1: What is going on? You said? I'm sorry, you said
Speaker 1: a fucked up doctor? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: A fucked up doctor? Like, I don't know, you just
Speaker 3: get I feel like I have a good sense if
Speaker 3: I can look at people profiles and just be like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's something wrong with you. I mean, clearly by the
Speaker 3: people I'm hanging out with, Like maybe not, maybe I
Speaker 3: missed the mark sometimes, but I just think if someone
Speaker 3: is truly a doctor and they're like forty and attractive
Speaker 3: and have pictures in like Greece and Italy and I
Speaker 3: go to aquariums, like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: You know? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, If a guy is forty attractive and a
Speaker 1: doctor and has photos of themselves at the aquarium, that
Speaker 1: raises a lot of red flags to you.
Speaker 3: Yes it does.
Speaker 1: Can you genuine I genuinely want to hear and maybe
Speaker 1: this is just a gut feeling that's beyond words for you,
Speaker 1: But if it's not, I would love to hear a
Speaker 1: further explanation as to why. And I kind of I'm
Speaker 1: trying to meet you where you're at. I kind of
Speaker 1: think I understand what you're getting at here, but like,
Speaker 1: what do you how do you mean.
Speaker 3: It's hard to explain. It's just like I've been I
Speaker 3: worked service industry jobs for a long time, serving bartending,
Speaker 3: which has really helped me, like clock people most of
Speaker 3: the time, and you just like there's only so many
Speaker 3: different types of people in the world, I feel like,
Speaker 3: and you just keep meeting the same people over and
Speaker 3: over again. And I've I've had regulars that were like doctors,
Speaker 3: specialist doctors, urologists, cardiologists that did all this cool shit,
Speaker 3: but like they're single because they like are horrible to
Speaker 3: women and you know, just like sit at bars drinking
Speaker 3: all night. But if you're if you're traveling and there's
Speaker 3: pictures of you, like at the aquarium, and it's just
Speaker 3: like nothing's ever gonna be enough for you. That's what
Speaker 3: that says to me. Like you're just always gonna want
Speaker 3: something more interesting. Yeah, if someone is like doing too much,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a really like it's intimidating interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you see a guy who is like
Speaker 1: traveling and doing a bunch of stuff, you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: this person's not gonna be happy with the kind of
Speaker 1: domestic life that I want to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna you're not looking to like foster
Speaker 3: a relationship and like make me coffee in the morning
Speaker 3: and talk about what we're gonna do. Like you're not
Speaker 3: You're not gonna want to just like read books together
Speaker 3: and have our feet touch. You're gonna want to like
Speaker 3: go out there and like jump out of planes or
Speaker 3: I don't know what they do, go rock climbing.
Speaker 1: God, No, all right, so you you'd all so you
Speaker 1: do you like doing shit?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I like to do shit.
Speaker 3: I like to do things that are a little bit
Speaker 3: more passive. I like to go look at like a
Speaker 3: a market. I like to just go somewhere and like
Speaker 3: get a coffee and like be outside and people watch,
Speaker 3: or go to any antique mal I don't like to
Speaker 3: go look at animals, Like I don't want to go
Speaker 3: to a zoo. I don't want to go to an
Speaker 3: aquarium and like look at things. But out in the
Speaker 3: in the world, I like to go look. I like
Speaker 3: to go to concerts, like a little day trip in
Speaker 3: the car somewhere, just not a big like thrill speaker
Speaker 3: dower of frenuous activity.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, okay, So you're looking for a kind
Speaker 1: of a boring guy that you can live a kind
Speaker 1: of relatively boringer life with.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I don't think it's boring. I
Speaker 3: think it's cozy, like a life where we have our
Speaker 3: own things that we like to do, but we're not
Speaker 3: like huge thrill sneakers, like that's that's of no interest
Speaker 3: to me, which it's okay. So the other part of
Speaker 3: what I was saying, attracting dudes that have the same
Speaker 3: kink kind of ties into this because I am not
Speaker 3: like a doer, you know, I don't like a lot
Speaker 3: of strenuous activity. But I did have a long term
Speaker 3: relationship like five years ago where we got into pegging,
Speaker 3: and after that, like almost I would just match with
Speaker 3: people on bumble or you like, meet a guy at
Speaker 3: a bar and they would want me to peg them.
Speaker 3: It's like, I just keep finding these guys that want
Speaker 3: to be pegged, and it doesn't happen to anyone else
Speaker 3: that I know. So I'm like, what what's going on?
Speaker 3: What does that say about me?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: Is pegging a thing that you like to do to people?
Speaker 3: I like it, Yeah, it's fun, but I also don't
Speaker 3: want that. I don't want it all the time. And
Speaker 3: that's the problem is I found myself in these situations
Speaker 3: where people will just pigeonhole me into like, oh, you're
Speaker 3: the You're the chick that's gonna peg me, and then.
Speaker 1: Okay, you feel like you're getting type cast as like
Speaker 1: I know this is the kind of lady that will
Speaker 1: peg me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you give me?
Speaker 1: And be honest with you?
Speaker 3: What's your name again, Alicia?
Speaker 1: Alicia? Now be honest with me, Alicia, because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know you, you know yourself. What is it
Speaker 1: about you that you think is emitting these vibes that
Speaker 1: you might that what do you think it is about
Speaker 1: like the way you present to the universe that is
Speaker 1: causing you to be type casted this way?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm I am quiet and reserved and
Speaker 3: like I have a dry sense of humor, but it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a dark sense of humor. But I
Speaker 3: have dark hair at kale skin. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: if people see me and they're just like, oh, she
Speaker 3: looks like a like a what's her face? The chick
Speaker 3: that dated Marrily Manson, you know, the burlesque lady. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm definitely she's beautiful. I'm not I'm not like saying
Speaker 3: I'm a mini her, but similar features like Lynn, She's
Speaker 3: like her name starts with a day. Yeah not I
Speaker 3: mean I have dark hair, pale skin. I always have
Speaker 3: on like a dark red lipstick. I'm like, is that
Speaker 3: it is that like an association people are making.
Speaker 4: Is it.
Speaker 3: Because they know that like the quiet girls are freaky?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, I also like am a good listener, so I
Speaker 3: also have guys just like kind of open up to
Speaker 3: me a lot. So I don't know. If I create
Speaker 3: you know, it could be a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're creating a lot of space for uh people
Speaker 1: to feel comfortable around you, which does translate to them
Speaker 1: feeling more comfortable being like, hey, would you want to
Speaker 1: fuck my ass? What is it that you are looking for?
Speaker 3: I am I would love a sweet guy who's freaky
Speaker 3: and is just kind of like, just this sounds bad.
Speaker 3: I just really kind of want someone to like adore
Speaker 3: me and just like be obsessed with me and just
Speaker 3: be happy, like to have a a fun time together.
Speaker 1: Like why do you say, well, why do you think
Speaker 1: that that sounds crazy? That sounds I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people want that. I don't know why I think
Speaker 1: most people probably want some version of that. Why what
Speaker 1: what is it about that that you think sounds crazy?
Speaker 3: It's crazy because no one has a capacity to like
Speaker 3: admire anyone or anything anymore.
Speaker 1: That's not true.
Speaker 3: No, I feel like the temperature. I feel like the temperature.
Speaker 3: Everyone is just like dead inside. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: it's Ohio, maybe maybe it's something just.
Speaker 2: Just luck, But.
Speaker 3: I just feel like people don't There's no yearning, there's
Speaker 3: no like appreciation. I feel like there's no chalant. It's
Speaker 3: all very nonchalant.
Speaker 1: I feel I'm curious about this because I feel like.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: You're telling me you haven't been able to find a
Speaker 1: guy that you feel like is obsessed with you. You
Speaker 1: at least haven't been able to find a guy that
Speaker 1: you feel like is obsessed with you that you find
Speaker 1: yourself attracted to. Yeah, it's easy to find a guy's
Speaker 1: obsessed with you, but it's hard to find a guy's
Speaker 1: obsessed with you that you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if a guy is obsessed with me, like
Speaker 3: I did have one guy that was obsessed with me,
Speaker 3: but again it was it was just sexual. It was
Speaker 3: just all about pegging. It was just like him dirty
Speaker 3: texting me all the time, like wanting me to stick
Speaker 3: dildo's in his mouth, wanting me to like play with
Speaker 3: his ass, just he'd want me to tell him what
Speaker 3: to do while he was at work, and he'd like
Speaker 3: go home on his lunch break and take pictures of
Speaker 3: like him putting in butt plugs, and it was taking
Speaker 3: up so much of my time. I'm like, I can't
Speaker 3: do this anymore, dude, Like it's not fun. It's not
Speaker 3: fun for me. I'm more than just like the things
Speaker 3: that I do to you.
Speaker 5: But no, you know, did you bring this up to
Speaker 5: him where you like, hey, listen, are you interested in
Speaker 5: anything more than just a sexual relationship?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was like, you know, I'm also looking for
Speaker 3: people to go and do things with and like hang
Speaker 3: out and watch something and laugh about it. If you
Speaker 3: want to like watch movies sometime, or like you have
Speaker 3: to go to Target and you want to make it fun,
Speaker 3: like I'll come with you. And he's just not interested
Speaker 3: in that. So I'm like, Okay, I will contact you
Speaker 3: again when I feel like enough time has passed, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, yeah, I feel like I could have
Speaker 3: fun pegging again. Oh, I'll call you and that's where
Speaker 3: that is.
Speaker 1: So what was your last boyfriend?
Speaker 3: Like my last boyfriend we dated off and on for
Speaker 3: like five years. Well no, oh my god, we had
Speaker 3: a ten year saga. We actually only spent like four
Speaker 3: years out of those ten dating I think, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: just broke up. It's like end of last February, so
Speaker 3: about a year ago for good. And he was very
Speaker 3: ego totickle. He's like very ego driven. He wanted approval
Speaker 3: from everyone, especially like acquaintances, any like anyone. He knew
Speaker 3: pleasing his bosses were was very important. So because he
Speaker 3: already had my approval, I was like very low on
Speaker 3: the priority list.
Speaker 1: Oh I see, I see, I see.
Speaker 3: So he was he was a great friend. He was
Speaker 3: always doing favors for people. He could fix cars, he
Speaker 3: could fix sewing machines, he could he could sew he
Speaker 3: could basically do anything everything. He's had a lot of
Speaker 3: different skill So yeah, he was really also avoidant, would
Speaker 3: never talk about issues. I always had to initiate the
Speaker 3: conversation and he would just like shut down, just close off,
Speaker 3: and then would have to come back to it like
Speaker 3: a couple days later. And it was just a lot
Speaker 3: of silent and like nodding like, I'm sorry you felt
Speaker 3: that way. I'll try to do better. Nothing ever changed,
Speaker 3: but the times that we were broken up, we never
Speaker 3: like really stopped talking, and he did cheat on a
Speaker 3: couple people that he was dating, like with me, which
Speaker 3: I didn't realize right away, and foolishly I thought that
Speaker 3: meant that it was like love, that he just loved
Speaker 3: me and missed me so much and couldn't stand being
Speaker 3: away from me. But you know, this last time we
Speaker 3: broke up, I was like, something's off, something's wrong, And
Speaker 3: for the first time in ten years, I had a
Speaker 3: chance to look through his phone and saw him. You know,
Speaker 3: he was texting another girl who he kept her whole
Speaker 3: existence hidden from me. He said he's known her for
Speaker 3: years and was like the only friend I've never heard
Speaker 3: him mention. So that's why we finally ended.
Speaker 1: What was it about this time over those ten years
Speaker 1: that was like a finale?
Speaker 3: Well I had been trying to figure out for ten
Speaker 3: years off and on, and I'm like, what's the last
Speaker 3: I'm like, why does this keep happening? Are we like
Speaker 3: in each other's orbits? Because we're meant to be together
Speaker 3: and he was so resistant to like moving in and
Speaker 3: I had set this timeline and like, if we're still
Speaker 3: together in a year, I'd like for us to not
Speaker 3: be living separately and you know, combine our lives. Like
Speaker 3: I feel like that's warranted at this stage because we
Speaker 3: also lived an hour apart from each other, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm tired of just like seeing you before work, after work,
Speaker 3: chatting in the parking lot because I worked an hour away.
Speaker 3: I worked where he lived in the same city, and
Speaker 3: then like once a week he'd come and stay at
Speaker 3: my house and we would just you know, drink, eat,
Speaker 3: have sex, smoke, and then like, I want more than this.
Speaker 3: We've been doing this since we were twenty eight, the
Speaker 3: hanging out, drinking, gangs, like smoking, like I would like
Speaker 3: to do more. So this was the final straw because
Speaker 3: I finally learned a lesson. I was like, Okay, the
Speaker 3: lesson is for me to know myself worse and to
Speaker 3: know that you are just totally disrespectful of me. And
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be this hard to like, if someone loves you,
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be this hard for them to show it
Speaker 3: and for me to feel like that I'm loved, you know,
Speaker 3: because he was he was also like a very good gas.
Speaker 3: Later he would not do anything to show that he
Speaker 3: loved or cared, but assure me that he did. He's like, no,
Speaker 3: that's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 2: Like, I do love you.
Speaker 1: What were you hoping that he would do to show
Speaker 1: that he loved you or cared about you that he
Speaker 1: didn't do.
Speaker 3: I think so many things, like just offering to help
Speaker 3: me in any way when I needed it. I had
Speaker 3: pneumonia for like two weeks. I was so sick. He
Speaker 3: didn't ask if he could do anything. He didn't come
Speaker 3: to my house. He didn't order me door dash, he
Speaker 3: didn't have groceries delivered. He just like let me rot,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's We've known each other for eight
Speaker 3: years at that point.
Speaker 1: You gotta that's the thing. I think you gotta like
Speaker 1: fucking if you're a guy, you gotta fucking like keep trying.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's important to just like keep trying
Speaker 1: trying to like serve your uh, your partner, you know,
Speaker 1: even because you you want to get too complacent. You
Speaker 1: want to always make sure that you're like, like a
Speaker 1: relationship should kind of be a job in a way,
Speaker 1: do you know, like it should be something that you're
Speaker 1: always putting effort into you never want to get complacent.
Speaker 1: It always needs to be like it's like a plant
Speaker 1: that you got to be constantly watering and constantly making
Speaker 1: sure that like you're you're serving this person, not even
Speaker 1: when they're I mean, especially when they're in need, when
Speaker 1: they're like fucking sick or whatever, but uh, when they're not,
Speaker 1: you just got to always make sure that you're fucking
Speaker 1: like making like if you love this woman, if you're
Speaker 1: like obsessed with her, if you're like really into her,
Speaker 1: you's got to keep making sure that you're making her
Speaker 1: life easier instead of harder. I mean, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent, right, You're not gonna be You're
Speaker 1: never gonna be one hundred percent. You're not gonna be
Speaker 1: like like, there's gonna be some mornings where like fuck
Speaker 1: like you can't make the coffee or you you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck right, But you should be consistent. But
Speaker 1: you should be consistent enough that when your girlfriend thinks
Speaker 1: about you, she thinks of you as like across the
Speaker 1: board overall, a trustworthy, competent, caring individual. Like that's like
Speaker 1: you're not you're not gonna be perfect, but she should
Speaker 1: You should be good enough and like cognizant enough of
Speaker 1: whether or not you're serving this other person that she
Speaker 1: has a general view of you as a competent human
Speaker 1: being who cares about her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, And yeah he didn't really excel at doing
Speaker 3: that at all. He knew what he provided, which was fun,
Speaker 3: and just like he provided.
Speaker 1: He knew what he provided, and what he provided was
Speaker 1: fun and distraction.
Speaker 3: Was that mean, Like when I was going through hard times,
Speaker 3: which was often because I had a lot of deaths
Speaker 3: in my family and a lot of family dynamics that
Speaker 3: were troubling and sad to me. So like I didn't
Speaker 3: unload on him all the time, but when things happened
Speaker 3: and I wanted some support, he wasn't really there.
Speaker 6: He he he would be like his his solution was,
Speaker 6: I'm going to come up, I'm going to bring a
Speaker 6: case of Truly's and We're going to watch ancient aliens
Speaker 6: and I'm just going to go down on you and
Speaker 6: You're going to forget all about the and like that
Speaker 6: was that was his like solution to the problem.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't interested in like emotionally engaging with you
Speaker 1: about these things going on, But he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I can we can get drunk and I'll go down
Speaker 1: on you while ancient Aliens is on in the background.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all things that I like, you know, and
Speaker 3: and he knew that, but he didn't. But he shouldn't
Speaker 3: given me that. No, he couldn't give me the deeper level.
Speaker 3: And I was always hanging on wanting that. And he
Speaker 3: also just like he never initiated. When we did live
Speaker 3: in the same city, a frequent argument we had was
Speaker 3: I would tell him if it was not for me,
Speaker 3: like texting you or calling you, we'd never hang out
Speaker 3: because I'd have I'd be like, what are you doing
Speaker 3: on Friday? But he had a way of convincing me
Speaker 3: that it wasn't.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it took me a long time. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: took me a long time to figure out that what
Speaker 3: he was saying, I don't think he meant it felt
Speaker 3: like he meant it sometimes when we were together, but
Speaker 3: I was like very much out of sight, out of mind,
Speaker 3: because yeah, I had to tell him, like right before
Speaker 3: this final breakup, something we were working on for the
Speaker 3: last year. I was like, I would like for you
Speaker 3: to plan something for us to do. I'm always the
Speaker 3: one telling you about concerts, asking you if you want
Speaker 3: to go, like to this antique shop. Do you want
Speaker 3: to go out to eat? Should be like go to
Speaker 3: a movie, you want to go for a drive. And
Speaker 3: he was down to do whatever I wanted and he's like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: But he never approached me with an idea, and he
Speaker 3: was never like what are you doing Friday? I want
Speaker 3: to see you. I would be like, hey, Pete, what
Speaker 3: are you doing on Friday? I'd like to see you.
Speaker 3: Do you have time to see me?
Speaker 1: Dude? It's so I don't know, man, all this shit
Speaker 1: is like so easy, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: being I feel like being a good boyfriend is like
Speaker 1: so it's so straightforward. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I don't I I here's the thing, and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to like, uh throw
Speaker 1: shit out there, but like.
Speaker 2: Do you think.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's because he wasn't that into you
Speaker 1: or because he was just kind of aloof and stupid?
Speaker 3: I really don't know what's I say. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but like what's fucked up is? I do know that
Speaker 3: he had serious feelings for me, Like I just know
Speaker 3: that he did, but I don't know why he treated
Speaker 3: me so badly.
Speaker 1: Dude, some people are just like stupid, Like it's just
Speaker 1: like being a good boy, Like I really do believe
Speaker 1: like when you're like when you're really in I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what it's like. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like for the guys. But like
Speaker 1: if I'm like really into a lady, I just I
Speaker 1: like I want to fucking you know, do all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's so it's like so easy
Speaker 1: if you really like someone, I think to naturally be
Speaker 1: compelled to like initiate wanting to see them, like want
Speaker 1: to like make their life better, want to like do
Speaker 1: shit for them, want to plan shit, like want to
Speaker 1: make them happy, like want to listen to what they
Speaker 1: need and take that feedback in and like actually take
Speaker 1: action on it. I mean again again again, You're never
Speaker 1: gonna be one hundred percent perfect and you can't be
Speaker 1: like on the fucking military guard. Yeah, out of time,
Speaker 1: but like across the board in general.
Speaker 3: Well, he also he liked to joke that he was
Speaker 3: a sociopath.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and this sounds crazy, and I think that.
Speaker 3: He actually might be I part of like the performance
Speaker 3: I would see him do in front of other people,
Speaker 3: like his personality changed, Like I am very authentic. I
Speaker 3: can you know if I'm in front of an old person,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to swear out of respect, and I'm
Speaker 3: not going to do that at work or my boss.
Speaker 3: Like I can change my personality that way, but I
Speaker 3: am myself, like my true personality doesn't change. And I
Speaker 3: would just see his personality change, like in front of
Speaker 3: this person, in front of this person, and then I
Speaker 3: was like I think, and I called him on it.
Speaker 3: It's like I think that you are coming to my
Speaker 3: house and like playing the person I want you to
Speaker 3: be and not great because he still wasn't delivering on
Speaker 3: a lot of like emotional needs that I had. But
Speaker 3: just like you're playing this little part and then you're
Speaker 3: going back home and you're being different and I have
Speaker 3: no idea who you're actually seeing, and like, yeah, and
Speaker 3: he's got some mother issues as well. I think he
Speaker 3: is like mentally unwell whatever that might be.
Speaker 1: Did you say mother issues or other issues?
Speaker 3: Oh, mother issues, just very very attached almost like he's
Speaker 3: parenting his mother. He's an only child and had older
Speaker 3: parents who were like in their late thirties when they
Speaker 3: had him. But the dynamic between them now is like
Speaker 3: he's the only son, so like every decision they make
Speaker 3: has to be made as a family, and we are
Speaker 3: a triad. That's something he'd always say, We're a triad.
Speaker 3: We all make this end.
Speaker 1: A triad is in the the like the triad of you,
Speaker 1: him and his mom.
Speaker 3: Noh sorry, no, him, his mom and his dad like
Speaker 3: their family unit.
Speaker 1: How old is this guy?
Speaker 3: He's like right now? Thirty seven? Thirty eight?
Speaker 2: Dude? Man?
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, yeah, so you've been on in love with
Speaker 1: this all right, So you've been on in love with
Speaker 1: this guy for ten years? What have you had experiences
Speaker 1: with other people? At all?
Speaker 3: Experiences? Yeah, but I never in our off time found
Speaker 3: anyone else that I liked to date. So he's the
Speaker 3: only person I've dated since I was twenty eight, Like,
Speaker 3: been in a relationship with.
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you find anyone else that you liked?
Speaker 3: I just didn't. It just didn't happen. I did find
Speaker 3: one guy I liked who lived in New Hampshire when
Speaker 3: I lived in Maine, but nothing. I don't think he
Speaker 3: felt the same way about me, Like it just kind
Speaker 3: of fizzled after hanging out a few times, which bummed
Speaker 3: me out. But other than that, I just yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't find anyone that I liked and I still haven't.
Speaker 3: I well, I have a work crush right now, so
Speaker 3: I do have one person, but he is very different.
Speaker 3: He's very very very different.
Speaker 1: Of you or from p Why uh, what's the deal
Speaker 1: with your work crush?
Speaker 3: We just have like a similar taste in music and
Speaker 3: a good sense of humor, like good banter. And then
Speaker 3: we've also had some like serious or more serious like
Speaker 3: conversations where we like can tell that our values aligne.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just like a normal healthy crush. Like
Speaker 3: we text sometimes and he'll send me pictures of like
Speaker 3: soup that he's making and I was like, wow, that
Speaker 3: looks delicious. You're like fucking making a stock. You've got
Speaker 3: vegetables boiling. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So we're just friends, but he's a little crush.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Why why is it romanding a crush? Why
Speaker 1: is romantic interest not been expressed?
Speaker 3: Well, up until recently, we worked together. He just got
Speaker 3: a new job last week, and I didn't I don't
Speaker 3: want to tell him that I have a crush on
Speaker 3: him and then potentially not have a friend and make
Speaker 3: it weird because that he is like the first friend
Speaker 3: I've made since moving to Ohio and I've been here
Speaker 3: six months. So well, breaking up with Pete was one
Speaker 3: reason I was commuting like an hour. I was putting
Speaker 3: it one hundred miles on my car a day driving
Speaker 3: to and from work, which wasn't sustainable. And I have family,
Speaker 3: like in the Pittsburgh area. I grew up there. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to live there again, so I just came
Speaker 3: to northeast, Ohio for something different and it's more affordable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's great here, like culturally, there's a lot to
Speaker 3: do and I'm having fun. But yeah, the dating is
Speaker 3: something else.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I don't know. I think you should give
Speaker 1: the Mama guy a try, give him a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh the mom Why the Mama guy?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He seems creative.
Speaker 3: I cut it off with him hardcore. He was a
Speaker 3: love bomber.
Speaker 1: Okay, what does what does that mean? A love bomber?
Speaker 3: I can give you examples as to what he was
Speaker 3: doing that should explain what love bombing is. Yeah, go ahead, Okay,
Speaker 3: So this was our first date. He actually lives two
Speaker 3: hours away, but was up in my area for Christmas
Speaker 3: for a week, so we talked on the phone a
Speaker 3: couple times, texted, you know. He made us dinner reservations.
Speaker 3: We went to a bar. He then invited himself over
Speaker 3: to my house, which I should have said no, but
Speaker 3: we were drinking, so of course I felt like it
Speaker 3: was my responsibility. Once he says, I've had a few drinks, okay,
Speaker 3: you weaseled your way into my apartment. But when he
Speaker 3: was here, like he wanted to. He was like tracing
Speaker 3: the shapes on my back very gently with like one fingertip.
Speaker 3: We were like watching TV, and he wanted me like
Speaker 3: in between his legs on the sofa, and he was
Speaker 3: just like I could do this all night. I could
Speaker 3: do this all night with you, just gently like making
Speaker 3: little snake shapes and circles. And then he like had
Speaker 3: his hand in my hair and was like playing with
Speaker 3: my bobby pins and just like being very gentle and
Speaker 3: like what the fuck And he said he was like,
Speaker 3: I think every crevice of your body should be worshiped.
Speaker 3: And then like he ended up spending the night and
Speaker 3: then in the morning like was like come here and
Speaker 3: sit down. He wanted me to sit on his lap,
Speaker 3: and he held me like awkwardly, like like a child.
Speaker 3: It was like sitting on Sanna's lap like and he
Speaker 3: just told me, like, you know, I had a lot
Speaker 3: of fun, And I'm thinking, I have a work trip
Speaker 3: coming up in Detroit. Are'm going to be there for
Speaker 3: five days, and you like a little road trip, you
Speaker 3: should come with me. I come up here and see
Speaker 3: you again, like this is our first date. Like that's
Speaker 3: a lot here.
Speaker 1: Let me all right, so let me here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Do you do? You take a bong rip? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy to clock that in the background. I mean,
Speaker 1: do what you like. But uh, what the fuck is
Speaker 1: I gonna say? I don't think there's inherently anything wrong
Speaker 1: with the way that this guy is like trying to
Speaker 1: conduct this thing. But it's clearly not your style, or
Speaker 1: at least it's not your style with this guy. Because
Speaker 1: some people like like the I think the way that like,
Speaker 1: So I don't think that that like because he's the
Speaker 1: thing like, uh for this, like, I think he's just
Speaker 1: to show you where like his brain is at is.
Speaker 1: He's like he finds, you know, how you said, you
Speaker 1: want a guy who's like obsessed with you.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I think, if you're gonna find a guy who's obsessed
Speaker 1: with you, like, I don't know. I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak for I don't want to speak for everyone, right
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of I there's a lot of like, uh,
Speaker 1: for example, I'm the kind of guy where like I
Speaker 1: know if I'm really attracted to someone, like immediately, like
Speaker 1: I can tell within like two minutes if I'm like
Speaker 1: really attracted to someone. And then I have friends who
Speaker 1: are a little bit more slow burners, and they're like,
Speaker 1: let me see how this plays out, be cautious, me whatever.
Speaker 1: And I I don't know if that's like a man
Speaker 1: woman thing, because I think that I think the same
Speaker 1: thing is is true with women, where I like, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of not most women are probably like slow burners,
Speaker 1: but there's also some women who are like, yo, I
Speaker 1: think this guy's like super hot and cool. I would
Speaker 1: love to let's, you know, throw a caution in the wind.
Speaker 1: He seems chill enough, Let's fucking go on this business
Speaker 1: trip with him. And then they just like from the start,
Speaker 1: you know, get it going but you're you've identified at
Speaker 1: least like, is this an across the board thing where
Speaker 1: you're like, I want to I'm a slow burner? Or
Speaker 1: do you see do you think that there's a kind
Speaker 1: of guy like were you were you just not attracted
Speaker 1: enough to this guy where you are like I want
Speaker 1: to I'm down to run it, or are you like no,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know that about myself after thirty
Speaker 1: nine years, that I'm a slow burn kind of lady.
Speaker 3: I am a slow burn If I like someone, I might.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: It's not a condition. It's something that you do. I
Speaker 3: think it's called limmeren. Yeah, where you automatically just start
Speaker 3: fantasizing about like, oh my god, I can see us married,
Speaker 3: I can see us like going to home depot. I
Speaker 3: do that, but I don't show it because I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: that's crazy, Like you don't really know this person.
Speaker 1: No, no, but if but if you meet someone for
Speaker 1: the first time and you feel that like, okay, this guy,
Speaker 1: clearly this guy was ready to rock. The guy who's
Speaker 1: drawing shapes on your back and shit, this guy's ready
Speaker 1: to fucking rock, right, And if you happened to feel that,
Speaker 1: I don't think you liked this guy particularly that much.
Speaker 1: But if you happened to feel a sense of limerens
Speaker 1: with this guy and you showed it and you were
Speaker 1: ready to rock. Look, a lot of relationships like that,
Speaker 1: they fucking crash and burn as fast as they began, right,
Speaker 1: But then it's a lot. But then a lot of
Speaker 1: relationships are the complete fucking opposite. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: relationships that are not slowburns that they're just like, are
Speaker 1: two people who just developed this like immediate limerens for
Speaker 1: each other that like doesn't go away?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I think it's possible. I think it's you know,
Speaker 3: if I feel I just like I with him, I
Speaker 3: knew like there were red flags. I was like, ugh,
Speaker 3: there's things about you that I really don't like. After
Speaker 3: just spending like six hours with you.
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me what those things were. I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is good. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is a good conversation. I feel like we're learning a
Speaker 1: lot here. I feel like the audience is getting a
Speaker 1: good uh idea of like what's attractive what's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hope so because all this, Yeah, I hope
Speaker 3: it helps somebody. God, I the one thing that really
Speaker 3: pissed me off.
Speaker 2: Is he.
Speaker 3: His dog isn't fixed? Number one?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's a little too specific.
Speaker 3: There's there's more to this, something else that ties into that.
Speaker 3: But he sent me a picture of his dog when
Speaker 3: we were texting, and oh, I just happened to notice,
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 1: Ball dog's dick is too big. Oh wait, why does that? What?
Speaker 1: What that's that's I have to say, that's one of
Speaker 1: actually the more wild ix that I've heard. Why what
Speaker 1: is But I'll hear you out on anything. What is
Speaker 1: it about this guy's dog not being fixed? What is
Speaker 1: that signal to you about him that's so unattractive?
Speaker 3: Well, there's no reason and to not fix your dog,
Speaker 3: like be responsible. It's you know, it's better for them.
Speaker 3: They're not going to accidentally get another girl pregnant like
Speaker 3: and create puppies that need homes. And also he told
Speaker 3: me during their very expensive dinner at a nice restaurant
Speaker 3: that his dog killed his roommate's dog and that's why
Speaker 3: he's not allowed to have his dog where he lives anymore.
Speaker 3: The ant has to watch his dog, and the dog's
Speaker 3: not fucking fixed. So maybe if the dog was fixed,
Speaker 3: your roommate's dog would still be alive.
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with the fancinness of
Speaker 1: the restaurant.
Speaker 3: It was just like crude conversation for the setting that
Speaker 3: we were in.
Speaker 1: You're clearly not into at all, and I don't ironic,
Speaker 1: hold on, give me something else, though, I feel like
Speaker 1: this is this is just like a Pheromone thing, because
Speaker 1: there's no fucking way it's the dog. You just clearly
Speaker 1: just didn't like these des No, he didn't like this
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 3: This guy has a vasectomy, and so I thought it
Speaker 3: was very ironic that he's.
Speaker 1: He's give me something else. Gotta be there's no way
Speaker 1: you just don't like this guy because his dog's not fixed.
Speaker 3: No, he also like insinuated that he gets like kind
Speaker 3: of wild when he drinks, or he's like, oh, like
Speaker 3: you'll find out what that's like because I made a comment.
Speaker 3: We had a few drinks with the restaurants and we went
Speaker 3: to a bar and he got a beer in a
Speaker 3: shot and I was like, oh, you're having a shot,
Speaker 3: And so it was like a red flag that he's
Speaker 3: like gonna probably change personalities when he drinks or had
Speaker 3: maybe he has a little bit of a drinking problem.
Speaker 3: He also wanted to like get up during the middle
Speaker 3: of our nice meal and have a cigarette, and it
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, yeah, you do that when
Speaker 3: you go to a dive bar or to like Applebee's
Speaker 3: and you're waiting for your food to come out. But like,
Speaker 3: we had an appetizer and before our meals came, he's like,
Speaker 3: do you want to go have a smoke? And it
Speaker 3: was a weird I think you had to be as
Speaker 3: a place to really get it, but it's not the
Speaker 3: kind of establishment you do that. But I joined him
Speaker 3: in and I thought it.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the fact. You know, first of all,
Speaker 1: I don't think people. I don't think people choose necessarily
Speaker 1: what they're attracted to and the ways in which they
Speaker 1: feel attraction. It's like they just naturally developed them. So
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you at the fact that you're
Speaker 1: a slow burner, because it's not an easy world for
Speaker 1: a slow burner. It's really not an easy world for
Speaker 1: a slow burner because, uh, the you'll get into a
Speaker 1: relationship faster if you're the opposite of a slow burner.
Speaker 1: You find a guy, uh, irresistibly attractive, but you notice
Speaker 1: his dog isn't fixed, and that he goes out for
Speaker 1: a cigarette and you just are like, oh, I'm just
Speaker 1: attracted to this guy. I'll just ignore that stuff versus
Speaker 1: because at some point you have to ignore stuff, not
Speaker 1: ignore stuff, but but kind of but kind of ignore stuff.
Speaker 1: But if you're a slow burner, like when you're trying
Speaker 1: to when you're like dating and you're getting a relationship,
Speaker 1: like like, things are always like you're there's always gonna
Speaker 1: be things that are thrown at you that you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a little weird. I don't know if I and
Speaker 1: it's and there's never gonna be any relationship or any
Speaker 1: person that you're you don't feel those things. But if
Speaker 1: you're a it's way easier. It's way easier if you're
Speaker 1: like a Limerens person to be like, oh, well I'll
Speaker 1: figure that out later. Who gives a shit and figure
Speaker 1: that and then actually figure that later. Then if you're
Speaker 1: a slow burner, all of those things are gonna be
Speaker 1: reasons to back out. But it's tough if you're a
Speaker 1: slow burner because, uh, you it takes a bit of
Speaker 1: time to figure someone out. But also but also how
Speaker 1: I don't know if a slow burner is really like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, if you can see something in
Speaker 1: this person, you you can if you're a slow burner,
Speaker 1: I feel like you can know at least like, at
Speaker 1: the end of a time seeing someone, do I want
Speaker 1: to see them again? Am I open to seeing them again?
Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's legitimate knowledge in that gut feeling,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: There is, Yeah, And there's different levels of X if
Speaker 3: you will like the things he did that I didn't
Speaker 3: like the cigarette, the dog. Like on someone else, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been to a big deal, but it was
Speaker 3: totally a Pheromone thing. We were just not vibing.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I saw I was right. It was just
Speaker 1: you just kind of didn't. You just weren't into them.
Speaker 3: No, I wanted to be, which is why I decided
Speaker 3: to have sex with them. It's like, maybe this will
Speaker 3: be really good. Yeah, but that.
Speaker 1: Was that was O mama, No, that's the old mama guy.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot that this was the right that sucks.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. That's so funny that you didn't like
Speaker 1: this guy. You were like, Okay, maybe maybe if I
Speaker 1: have sex with him, maybe that'll unlock something that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't see before and then it and then
Speaker 1: something happens that that is like the worst thing of
Speaker 1: all the other things that you thought that having sex
Speaker 1: could distract you from. That just sucks. It's very funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is very funny.
Speaker 3: And I did like. There was another guy who I
Speaker 3: went out was three times. He was the first guy
Speaker 3: I matched with when I moved here, and I you know,
Speaker 3: I hated the way that he laughed. I hated the
Speaker 3: way he pushed up his glasses like a typical dork
Speaker 3: with one finger at the nose bridge. He'd like push
Speaker 3: them up and laugh at the same time. We hung
Speaker 3: out three times. He ate hot dogs two out of
Speaker 3: those three times, and I was like, dude, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: I can't with this, but but maybe I'll like him.
Speaker 3: He's kind of sweet, like I feel like he likes me.
Speaker 3: Maybe I just need more time. And then he was
Speaker 3: the ones that ghosted me. So you just it's I've learned,
Speaker 3: it's just not worth it.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. There. What's
Speaker 1: your name again? Yeah, Alicia, Yeah, either of all of them,
Speaker 1: they all work. Alicia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alicia.
Speaker 1: Well, Alicia, thanks for sharing your stories with us. I
Speaker 1: hope you find, uh, whatever it is you're looking for
Speaker 1: in this crazy world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy who wants to get freaky sometimes and
Speaker 3: just like is obsessed with me and wants to hang
Speaker 3: out all the time.
Speaker 1: That's much that you also like, Oh yeah, that's the caveat. No,
Speaker 1: you could find what you just said tomorrow, but.
Speaker 2: It acuity.
Speaker 3: A lover boy, a smart boy.
Speaker 1: Alicia, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I do have one thing to say, and that is, oh, I'm.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 1: I hope that conversation was I guess educational to someone.
Speaker 1: You gotta have things that you're willing to put up with.
Speaker 1: But again, I feel bad for the slow burners because
Speaker 1: they really being a slow burner's tough, because you really
Speaker 1: feel like you're in a lot of situations where you're like, hmm,
Speaker 1: I you're in a lot of situations you're like, I
Speaker 1: could try to like this person, But does that ever work?
Speaker 1: Does that ever work? Chat? I'm curious, let me know
Speaker 1: all the comments if that ever works. If you if
Speaker 1: you're someone, if you're in a relationship with someone who
Speaker 1: you didn't like initially and then you started to like them.
Speaker 1: I know those stories exist. I've never experienced that personally.
Speaker 1: I feel like I can tell if I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: someone pretty immediately. But the slow burners exist, you know,
Speaker 1: and they figure it out.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, how's it going? Is this thing live at all?
Speaker 2: Or is this like the rundown? Let's read?
Speaker 1: What's the read? Well, the read is that we are
Speaker 1: on the phone together. I mean, it's not live. I
Speaker 1: don't stream on twitch as much anymore. Okay, but I
Speaker 1: might start again at some point, but for now, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of taking a break and just recording the podcast offline.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's just a little bit more chill.
Speaker 1: I feel like it helps me control the pacing of
Speaker 1: things and makes it more intimate and for me and
Speaker 1: just easier. It's just a little bit easier for me
Speaker 1: to do it offline than online, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally get that.
Speaker 1: But this is a thing that I am recording for
Speaker 1: the purposes of putting on the internet. So that is the.
Speaker 2: Drop the legal disclaimer in there. I respect it.
Speaker 1: That is the skinny. No, I never dropped the legal disclaimers.
Speaker 1: I put myself at risk or I don't think I
Speaker 1: believe nobody cares, Dude, nobody cares. That's nobody cares about
Speaker 1: me enough to like it just doesn't matter, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I have reverses for you, buddy,
Speaker 2: but I care. Dude.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Reese, Reese? You're your sweet soul Reese. Have we ever
Speaker 1: spoken before?
Speaker 2: Uh? No? Long time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 1: Man, amazing, amazing. I love it. I'm so happy. I
Speaker 1: genuinely I am so happy that I've been doing this
Speaker 1: for almost six years and we're still getting to talk
Speaker 1: to new people.
Speaker 2: So I I think the first episode of Yours that
Speaker 2: I saw I was fucking around in like sophomore year
Speaker 2: English in high school. Now I'm like a freshly twenty
Speaker 2: one year old, like adult, very nice time five man.
Speaker 1: So, Reese, what's going on with you?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: What made you want to call my Gecko show?
Speaker 2: So I'll give you the reading. I'm not too happy
Speaker 2: with life in general. I feel like the world has
Speaker 2: kind of lost its wonder for me, and like I've
Speaker 2: just been trying to figure out a way to get
Speaker 2: it back. Life's just kind of hard right now. Man.
Speaker 1: Mmmmm, Okay, So the world lost its wonder for you,
Speaker 1: which means that at one point it had wonder. And
Speaker 1: when was that point?
Speaker 2: Probably when I was about eighteen. I moved out of
Speaker 2: the house, moved right to Brooklyn Sunset Park if you
Speaker 2: know it, yep. And then I ended up traveling all
Speaker 2: over the Western United States doing volunteer trip And ever
Speaker 2: since I finished up with that, man, life just kind
Speaker 2: of feels mundane and like every day is the exact
Speaker 2: same m.
Speaker 1: And what is this day that it's the same every day?
Speaker 1: What does that day look like?
Speaker 2: I feel like I got like, wake up, eat some food,
Speaker 2: get a good work out in, go to work, play
Speaker 2: video games. Repeats. There's not much going on for me socially,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean maybe it's because I decided to
Speaker 2: move to a different city recently, but just things are
Speaker 2: tough out of here.
Speaker 1: Man, what city you in?
Speaker 2: I just moved to Seattle a couple months ago.
Speaker 1: All right, So when you were eighteen, you were running around,
Speaker 1: you were doing volunteer work. Your life felt like it
Speaker 1: had some color to it. What do you do for.
Speaker 2: Work right now? I do private security, Okay, I basically
Speaker 2: hold the door for a bunch of rich people.
Speaker 1: It's great it doesn't sound great. It sounds like it's
Speaker 1: making you miserable.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it makes me completely miserable. But I'm uh,
Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time breaking in industries that I
Speaker 2: feel like would be more serving for people.
Speaker 1: You know, what are those industries?
Speaker 2: Honestly a lot of like nonprofit management stuff. Like I
Speaker 2: when I was nineteen, I was cleaning up after wildfires
Speaker 2: and helping real families in California, and like that felt
Speaker 2: meaningful and like I still felt like life had a
Speaker 2: purpose and shit, and it wasn't so great all the time.
Speaker 2: But now it's kind of just like rough. You know.
Speaker 1: What is preventing you from doing things that resemble.
Speaker 2: That the American dream? Brother? It's money. It's all about money.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, okay, yeah, what well, let's get into this here.
Speaker 1: So you can't find a job like that that pays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's the big issue. Is finding
Speaker 2: a job that helps people in a way that doesn't
Speaker 2: gain shareholder value is a unique issue for me.
Speaker 1: M And what's your nut looking like? What's your nut
Speaker 1: looking like?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: How much money does it cost for you to exist?
Speaker 2: A couple grand a month? I mean, I got like
Speaker 2: a nice one bedroom apartment. I mean nice as a stretch.
Speaker 2: If there were section eighth, then it's like a section
Speaker 2: seven type deal, but like a nice one bedroom. I
Speaker 2: guess it's like thirteen hundred.
Speaker 1: A month, kay, and then what's say the seven are
Speaker 1: going towards?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I mean I make a bit more than that.
Speaker 2: I make about six grand a month, and like now
Speaker 2: it's all going basically into my savings and retirement and stuff.
Speaker 1: Cool. Okay, six grand a month is pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: That's good money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How often does a security.
Speaker 2: Get I do about six days a week.
Speaker 1: Six days a week. That's tough.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm calling it Dave Ramsey right now.
Speaker 2: I probably should have bitch more about my problems. Dude.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I'm fucking Dave Ramsey. Sometimes, like
Speaker 1: when we want to talk to me about this kind
Speaker 1: of shit, I feel like I'm but like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have any business trying to talk like Dave Ramsey.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, dude, if you if you want the
Speaker 2: sound bite I had go from break up with me, childhood,
Speaker 2: dog guy and Grandma all the month and a half,
Speaker 2: I can. I can run it back for you if you.
Speaker 1: Want, well, no, Well, the reason why I get all
Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey is well, the reason why I get all
Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey is because, like, I won't deny the logistical
Speaker 1: significance of money in all of life's lightiness. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like the logistical hurdle of it. But I also don't
Speaker 1: think it's like entirely impossible to like f shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like, in general, if
Speaker 1: you want to like figure something out, like I believe
Speaker 1: strongly in in like, if there's a will, there's a
Speaker 1: way kind of shit, you know, Like, well, Dave Ramsey,
Speaker 1: but yeah, six grand a month is pretty good.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've what's been happening when you try to look
Speaker 1: for other jobs?
Speaker 2: Uh? I mean the economy sucks, that's that's a big
Speaker 2: right now. But mostly it's just you need a college
Speaker 2: degree to help people, Yeah, which is the weirdest thing
Speaker 2: to me. I mean, I did a year volunteer work
Speaker 2: through a government program, and I guess it costs a
Speaker 2: shits some of money to train up a bunch of
Speaker 2: idiots to help out in random ways. So companies don't
Speaker 2: see like a big like they don't see the investment
Speaker 2: reason for it, you know, mm hmm, Like why take
Speaker 2: on like an underqualified twenty one year old and you
Speaker 2: can get somebody with like a bachelor's in public policy
Speaker 2: or something helping out homeless people.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm hmmmm.
Speaker 2: Mmm. But like I said, man, if you're looking for better, ammo,
Speaker 2: here I can bring up the dead grandma.
Speaker 1: Dude, whatever you want to talk about, man, I don't
Speaker 1: give it. Whatever, whatever you want to, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to get into.
Speaker 2: Man, I feel like that's that's probably contributing factors. I
Speaker 2: had a real rough fall. Is just a big it's
Speaker 2: probably a big factor as to why I feel so
Speaker 2: shitty now. Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Uh dead grandma, he said, dead grandma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dead grandma, dead child's a dog and girlfriend dump
Speaker 2: me all a month and a half.
Speaker 1: Why did your girlfriend dump you?
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not too sure. Actually you haven't really spoken
Speaker 2: since she just let me know. It was awaken one
Speaker 2: day and headed out.
Speaker 1: How long were you with her?
Speaker 2: About nine months?
Speaker 1: Nine months? And how long? How long is this?
Speaker 2: This is in October, so it's been it's been a minute. Well,
Speaker 2: I actually no, this was I think early September, a
Speaker 2: couple of months.
Speaker 1: Any idea as to why, any any idea whatsoever as
Speaker 1: to why you think it might not have worked out.
Speaker 2: I feel like we were just incompatible with the ways
Speaker 2: that we wanted to live our lives, even though that
Speaker 2: she was a lot more mature than the average twenty
Speaker 2: year old relationship, you know, but I don't know. She
Speaker 2: felt more materialistic about some things. I was more I guess,
Speaker 2: like chill would not owning your shit ton of stuff,
Speaker 2: Like I don't have a car. She thought I should
Speaker 2: own a car. I didn't believe in spending like a
Speaker 2: ton of money on fancy bullshit, and she was a
Speaker 2: big fan of that. So just different priorities, I guess,
Speaker 2: and like a world sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's I think that's pretty legitimate. That's a
Speaker 1: good thing. I mean, that's a good thing to get
Speaker 1: out of the way, like now after nine months. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's good. That could have that could have been way worse.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're chilling on that front, dude. I think that. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think that's good because yeah, you could have gotten,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking deeper into that ship and it just
Speaker 1: would have been a mess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't imagine like two years down
Speaker 2: the line, You're like, hey, I'm trying to buy you
Speaker 2: a ring. What's up? And then she's like I want
Speaker 2: the child blood like blood diamonds from like Congo or
Speaker 2: whatever like that. Yeah, yeah, that would that would bother me.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you close with your grandma? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? When I was a little kid, I would spend
Speaker 2: summers at her house like all the time. She actually
Speaker 2: inspired me to do like public service stuff too.
Speaker 1: Oh really was she a.
Speaker 2: Kind of a yeah she did this, might well give
Speaker 2: your self docs. But she was a foster parent for
Speaker 2: about fifty five years. Whoa, which is insane, Like she
Speaker 2: was just foster random kids for five and a half decades,
Speaker 2: all while taking care of my dad like kids, siblings, damn.
Speaker 2: So like growing up as a little kid in that
Speaker 2: environment and like seeing how she cared for people in
Speaker 2: her neighborhood in their city, like it really affected me
Speaker 2: to want to do good. And I mean she had dementia,
Speaker 2: so like seeing her like slowly lose that ability to
Speaker 2: help and then at some point become not her anymore
Speaker 2: was pretty tough. Yeah, And I think that that might
Speaker 2: be It is like I'm trying to do fun stuff,
Speaker 2: so I don't like so like when my mind is
Speaker 2: forced me to go back to being twenty, when I'm
Speaker 2: like ninety years old, I have something fun to think about.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's tough.
Speaker 1: How old was your grandma?
Speaker 2: She was eighty five?
Speaker 1: Eighty five.
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a run.
Speaker 1: As a hell of a run. I'm sorry for her loss.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: She sounds like she was a pretty good, uh, pretty
Speaker 1: good homide.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pretty great lady. Mm hmm. I credit her
Speaker 2: a fat kid. She was. She was big on the
Speaker 2: fried chicken in the household, you know. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what she made. The part that you missed the most, dude.
Speaker 1: She made homemade fried chicken.
Speaker 2: Dude. She was from rural Louisiana in the forties. She
Speaker 2: was whipping that ship up.
Speaker 1: Oh pretty good, pretty pretty good. Hmm. All right, So
Speaker 1: you want to help people, you want to have Okay,
Speaker 1: so you saw your grandmother get dementia and then you're like, ship,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I have good memories from
Speaker 1: my time.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's that was definitely a driving
Speaker 2: factor in me realizing I need to get out and
Speaker 2: start helping people and being more selfless in my day
Speaker 2: to day m hm m hm.
Speaker 1: So what about all these like, uh, what what like
Speaker 1: workaway type of shit and like can you go like
Speaker 1: be like a volunteer emt Like is there no, there's
Speaker 1: no jobs where you can go be like a volunteer
Speaker 1: firefighter or something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean I've been looking in Seattle. It's a little
Speaker 2: bit harder because they want you to do like the
Speaker 2: firefighter academy and stuff, and I'm a little bit cranked
Speaker 2: out on work to be doing that, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Like I work sixty four hours a week, which explains
Speaker 2: why my income is so decent, but like tough, yeah, hm.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. What about like little ways you can help people outside.
Speaker 2: Of their job. Yeah, I've actually been starting to pick
Speaker 2: up more shifts that They're a food bank in Seattle
Speaker 2: that I've been working at. Uh, they do a pretty
Speaker 2: good job in the community. I've been helping them out
Speaker 2: like once or twice a week. So like it still
Speaker 2: feels like I'm not doing an you know, like I
Speaker 2: know the average person isn't doing shit in general, like
Speaker 2: if not monetarily than time wise, but like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I feel like four hours a week of community services
Speaker 2: isn't much you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's common. I feel like you're not
Speaker 1: doing enough. I feel that way too. Hmmm, dude, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like, uh, I wish I would.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm a little stuck because I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is that you've been looking for job wise,
Speaker 1: and like I don't know what's out there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the issue with uh, like being in
Speaker 2: New York, like like you are, You're in New York, right,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to remember. Yeah, yeah, dude, that's that's
Speaker 2: the issue. In New York. It's there are a couple
Speaker 2: of jobs that are way more easy to think about,
Speaker 2: like shit, I don't know, helping out almost people or whatever.
Speaker 2: But out here there's so much more like earthquake prevention,
Speaker 2: ship and there's like fire, there's like wild land firefighting
Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's just such an array of options
Speaker 2: just alone in the country, and like they all need people,
Speaker 2: but they're all kind of lacking, you know. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So they all need people, but they're lacking, then why
Speaker 1: are it But if they all need people, then why
Speaker 1: are you having a hard time getting that?
Speaker 2: The American job market man real tough out here. M hmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I saw a thing that was like
Speaker 2: you have a point six percent chance of getting an
Speaker 2: interview now when you apply to a company, which I
Speaker 2: don't want to be like I'm playing the numbers game here,
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely playing the numbers game on applications.
Speaker 1: Where are you applying? Are you like applying, are you
Speaker 1: applying to ship online? Or are you like meeting people
Speaker 1: in person?
Speaker 2: I'm throwing I'm throwing lobs online.
Speaker 1: You gotta find you gotta find a way to do
Speaker 1: ship in person. If everything you do online is just
Speaker 1: gonna get fucked, you gotta like you gotta know a
Speaker 1: guy that's that. That is the one thing that I
Speaker 1: know for sure about like getting a job is like
Speaker 1: whether you know people think that like to get like
Speaker 1: a like a job in like the entertainment industry or whatever,
Speaker 1: like you gotta like know someone on the inside, right.
Speaker 1: But that's the truth about every single job. You know,
Speaker 1: if you want to get a job at a grocery store,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a buddy that works there and to
Speaker 1: vouch for you, Like you always I feel like you
Speaker 1: always always have to know somebody you gotta like do
Speaker 1: some kind of in person networking. You gotta go to
Speaker 1: the place physically and like talk to people because if
Speaker 1: you just raw online, all that shit's gonna get filtered
Speaker 1: out by some like AI program or it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like stuck in a pile of like you know, dude,
Speaker 1: it's the differ. It's truly the difference between like going
Speaker 1: out to talk to women in real life versus using
Speaker 1: a dating app. You know, It's like it's like they're
Speaker 1: getting millions and million's good. They're get thousands and thousands
Speaker 1: of applications on hinge, Right, you gotta like go after
Speaker 1: what you want in real life somehow, or else you
Speaker 1: just get like demolished by the So I don't know
Speaker 1: where could you go in real life where you could
Speaker 1: like meet people that you could get into this industry with.
Speaker 2: I'm not I mean, I'm sure there's networking events if
Speaker 2: I looked into them. But around here there's a lot
Speaker 2: of like street people that like stand out sudden, like hey,
Speaker 2: you want to help up the ACLU or like lou
Speaker 2: lac or whatever. It's that's the nice part of being
Speaker 2: in such a blue city is there's always opportunities to find.
Speaker 2: I guess ideologically aligned groups with me and talk like
Speaker 2: people representing them. But I don't know, man, a little
Speaker 2: rough to find a job out here, Like I feel
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be my tagline for this. But uh
Speaker 2: yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you say you haven't looked into.
Speaker 2: It yet, So I mean nothing in person really, but yeah, go.
Speaker 1: Out trying to find some shit in person? What's uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what are there? Like, there's got to
Speaker 1: be some like cheogy networking events going on in Seattle
Speaker 1: that you can go check out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, probably, I mean if I don't know any
Speaker 2: right now, I'm sure if you end up posting this,
Speaker 2: I'll probably find something in the comments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, leave it. Leave a comment
Speaker 1: on the Spotify folks if you know anything. If that
Speaker 1: that that this gentleman can go take a look at
Speaker 1: go ahead where you said, I will say.
Speaker 2: That's That's the big appeal of your show to me
Speaker 2: is that you fostered a pretty lovely community of people
Speaker 2: you know, and like, I just want to I mean, grant,
Speaker 2: I don't if you're gonna cut this part for time,
Speaker 2: but oh, A big fan of your work didn't I
Speaker 2: think you've done a very good job.
Speaker 1: Thanks Ben. Yeah, cut that for time, get rid of that.
Speaker 1: Don't keep that on the podcast. Don't let anyone know. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Don't You don't have to cut that,
Speaker 1: Brandon anyway? Well, what's your name again?
Speaker 2: Man? Uh?
Speaker 1: Reese? You seem like a good dude. Reese. I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I actually I don't say that to everyone. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't think I say that
Speaker 1: to everyone. I don't say it to everyone. But I
Speaker 1: think you will be fine. I think you got a
Speaker 1: good heart. I'm glad people like you exist, and I
Speaker 1: hope you find a place where your Reese hood can
Speaker 1: be properly applied. Thank you, man, I take it easy, Race.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? Uh?
Speaker 2: Don't let your dreams be dreams? Who? Who the fuck
Speaker 2: says that? Yeah? Give this guy money on Patreon. Pretty goods.
Speaker 2: I'm about to go do it myself, Rocker.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Reese. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Later see dude, what's up, gangsters, It's me. It's Lyle
Speaker 1: and I figure that it would be nice to end
Speaker 1: the podcast today by uh reading one single gek mail.
Speaker 1: We had a pretty long first call, decently long second call,
Speaker 1: and I want to let you guys go. I don't
Speaker 1: want to make the show too long, So let's let's
Speaker 1: read one single gek mail and then we'll get out
Speaker 1: of here. Does that sound good? Is everyone okay with that?
Speaker 1: Let's find a good one. Let's find a good one. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's see interesting. Wait now this one's too short. Sorry,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do this one. This is from Holly,
Speaker 1: subject line a letter of inspiration from Sweet's McGee. Hello, Lyle,
Speaker 1: I wanted to reciprocate some inspiration for a fellow Sweet enthusiast.
Speaker 1: I recalled an episode a while back where you mentioned
Speaker 1: the glorious Ben and Jerry's peanut Butter some'mores ice cream
Speaker 1: and had to get some for myself. Wow, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a bad influence. If you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: don't try the Ben and Jerry's Peanut Butter Smores ice cream.
Speaker 1: It'll ruin your fucking life. Don't try that, And don't
Speaker 1: try sprinkled donut Captain Crunch. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: still make that but if they do stay far away
Speaker 1: from it. Those two things will ruin your life. If
Speaker 1: you're a if you're a crazy person. Anyway, I had
Speaker 1: to get some for myself. It was a religious experience.
Speaker 1: I hope I can replicate for you. Go to a
Speaker 1: bakery and get some fresh croissants. Get some crunchy cookie butter.
Speaker 1: Usually I prefer the Kroger store brand kind that uses
Speaker 1: Speculos cookie butter, and I like it better than bisc Off,
Speaker 1: although biscoff is fine. And then get some cinnamon honey butter.
Speaker 1: Is this woman giving me a recipe?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: All can be found at any Kroger store. I usually
Speaker 1: go to fred Meyer, but I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: common for you in New York. What is this the okay?
Speaker 1: Cut the croissant in half and lay a generous spread
Speaker 1: of the cookie butter on one side and the cinnamon
Speaker 1: honey butter on the other. Microwave it for fifteen seconds
Speaker 1: exactly and enjoy. This is the melty, delicious ecstasy you've
Speaker 1: been looking for to fill that little piece of your
Speaker 1: soul where everything in life feels good for the moment.
Speaker 1: I love your show. I listen all the time for
Speaker 1: work I've called a few hundred times to no avail,
Speaker 1: but I hope this can find you on a gek
Speaker 1: mail show. Has genuinely helped me mold my perspective into
Speaker 1: a life I am much happier in, and I thank
Speaker 1: you sincerely. I have so many other sweets and tails
Speaker 1: from life I feel like you'd enjoy, so I'll keep calling.
Speaker 1: You're a wonderful lizard, and I appreciate everything you do.
Speaker 1: Take care sweet smagee. Well, thank you, thank you emailer.
Speaker 1: This is very sweet. I don't know this. I have
Speaker 1: to be super honest with you, Holly. This is way
Speaker 1: more preparation and cooking that I'm willing to do. Just
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I'm glad I read it
Speaker 1: on the podcast because I think that it will find
Speaker 1: its way to somebody else and they'll give it a try.
Speaker 1: But I know it's pathetic that this is way more
Speaker 1: cooking that I'm willing to do, but that it is true.
Speaker 1: I think if I want something that describes this, I'll
Speaker 1: just like get a butterfinger, or I'll just get the
Speaker 1: peanut butter some Moores ice cream. Honestly having to pull
Speaker 1: a having to wash a spoon, to get in there.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of work too. No, I'm not that
Speaker 1: much of a piece of shit. I can. I can
Speaker 1: wash a spoon. I'm actually doing I shouldn't announce this,
Speaker 1: but I've been trying out a Keto diet for the
Speaker 1: last uh pretty much. I've been doing Keto pretty on
Speaker 1: and off for this whole year. Keto is when you
Speaker 1: don't eat carbs. So I've been like staying away from
Speaker 1: sweets and shit. I was on the I was on
Speaker 1: an airplane recently and I just it was a long
Speaker 1: fucking flight and I needed something, so I broke it.
Speaker 1: I got a horry bow like gummy bears because like
Speaker 1: there's nothing to you know what's stupid is I have
Speaker 1: this thing where I'm like, there's nothing to do on
Speaker 1: this flight, let me just eat, And so I get
Speaker 1: the gummy bears and that takes up about five minutes
Speaker 1: of the twenty hours that I'm in the sky for.
Speaker 1: But I somehow convinced myself that it's it's I need
Speaker 1: it to get through the flight. But nah, man, I've
Speaker 1: been If anyone's got any recipes for steaks or fucking
Speaker 1: bacon eggs, stuff like that, I'm trading high blood sugar
Speaker 1: for high cholesterol or ending up with both. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. But yeah, I'm I'm enjoying the keto shit.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying not eating carbs. I've only I've done it.
Speaker 1: Uh like I'll use what I've been doing is like
Speaker 1: it's been. It'll be like a week and then I'll
Speaker 1: fuck up, and then i'll do another week, and then
Speaker 1: i'll fuck up, and I'll do another week and then
Speaker 1: I'll suck up. But I overall it's led me to
Speaker 1: eat less shit, uh naturally, which is good. Anytime I'm
Speaker 1: like doing anything where i'm I'm at least paying attention
Speaker 1: to what I eat, I'm kind of making it work.
Speaker 1: It's when you're not paying attention or not, Karen, then
Speaker 1: you just start going hamm and you start eating fucking
Speaker 1: peanut butter, s'mores whatever stuff all the time. All Right, folks,
Speaker 1: I know I said I do one, but I'll do
Speaker 1: one more. Uh if I can find a really short one,
Speaker 1: I'll do one more. Okay. This is from uh let's
Speaker 1: see here. Okay, this is from Marco. Subject line it
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad, hey, gek I've had a noisy upstairs neighbor.
Speaker 1: For two years now, I was afraid of approaching them
Speaker 1: in fear of being a dick about it. Today, their
Speaker 1: towel fell on my balcony, so I went upstairs to
Speaker 1: return it to them. It turns out they're a pretty
Speaker 1: chill lady. She says she's sorry about the noise, and
Speaker 1: we'll try to do something about it. This didn't resolve
Speaker 1: my issue with the noise, but it stopped my spiraling
Speaker 1: thoughts about that experience of facing them. Even if it's
Speaker 1: turned out bad, it would have been okay. So to
Speaker 1: whomever is avoiding an issue and spending more time thinking
Speaker 1: about something than acting upon it, one piece of advice.
Speaker 2: Just do it.
Speaker 1: It makes your life a bit easier.
Speaker 2: PS.
Speaker 1: When are you coming to Europe? I missed your last
Speaker 1: London show by a week. Ah fuck, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to come to Europe. I don't have any plans right now,
Speaker 1: but maybe I'll Maybe I'll do it next year. We'll
Speaker 1: see or if I get or or if I start
Speaker 1: really feeling if I start really feeling myself on tour,
Speaker 1: then I'll add a whole Europe thing. But we'll see. Anyway, No,
Speaker 1: I like this.
Speaker 2: I like this. I like this.
Speaker 1: That's how a lot of great friendships start is you
Speaker 1: start out as enemies, but then you find out that
Speaker 1: when you really get to talk to the lady, when
Speaker 1: you when you know your neighbor only when your neighbor's
Speaker 1: only manifestation of themselves is a loud, fucking TV, then yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna I really like them, but once they
Speaker 1: become a real, full person, you might realize that you
Speaker 1: actually have some things in common. So I'm happy for you,
Speaker 1: Marco for making a new friend in a place where
Speaker 1: there was only animosity before. That's a nice story, folks.
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