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Speaker 2: the conditions, whether the location.
Speaker 3: You collect, witness information studied, the scene.
Speaker 2: Safety is relative, and there's always a pattern, and then
Speaker 2: if you pay attention, the pattern belies a deeper cycle.
Speaker 2: I put on a bicycle, hit, buy a car, left
Speaker 2: for dead. That's senseless and terrible. It tears down home families,
Speaker 2: and that goes into the universe that wounded howl of
Speaker 2: confusion and existential questions.
Speaker 3: And again, the kid had no helmet.
Speaker 2: He was crossed in Memorial and Boulevard, the most dangerous
Speaker 2: intersection in the city. And there's a robbery at a
Speaker 2: corner store, gone ry. That leads to the junkie who
Speaker 2: needed that fix. That leads to the dealer that could
Speaker 2: get it to 'em and it rolls on down the line.
Speaker 2: Safety is relative. I mean there's always a pattern, forces
Speaker 2: trajectories the momentum, and unless the pattern is disrupted, collisions
Speaker 2: are inevitable.
Speaker 3: There's a pattern here too.
Speaker 2: A man of walk uh, cycle of violence. It's not
Speaker 2: just those sadly boys. And unless the pattern is disrupt.
Speaker 4: Stories about the caves go way back beyond early settler folkmore.
Speaker 5: The ghost in the mill.
Speaker 6: And the hounds of hell dancing in your.
Speaker 3: What do you mean, like like ghost and witches, some
Speaker 3: kind of he'll believe food or something.
Speaker 5: Seems turn the river glean inside tells.
Speaker 7: These tells the.
Speaker 4: Hi Leary family such alter during a winter blizzard and
Speaker 4: became trapped inside the cave. Only the youngest daughter, Nadine
Speaker 4: o'hery mergem the cave.
Speaker 3: That's the end.
Speaker 4: Adventure was most interesting, discussing it's one of these great
Speaker 4: unsold mysteries of this area.
Speaker 8: All this call will be recorded as monitored. Please standside, Julia,
Speaker 8: you ventcher, Yeah, it's me.
Speaker 3: I need you to come bessing man. I don't have
Speaker 3: much time lifting.
Speaker 2: Neither you.
Speaker 7: August ninth, five fifty five pm. Where to begin? There's
Speaker 7: only four days left now four days till James Fincher's
Speaker 7: scheduled to be executed by the State of Tennessee unless
Speaker 7: I can still do something about it. I drove to
Speaker 7: see him this morning the Riverbed Maximum Security Institution in
Speaker 7: Nashville for the first time since he was convicted fourteen
Speaker 7: years ago. I'm led into a windowless box where for
Speaker 7: death row inmates, you are a partitioned from your visitor
Speaker 7: by a sheet of thick plexiglass. Their voice only available
Speaker 7: to you through a hard wire plastic phone. The divider
Speaker 7: lends a surreal aspect to the whole ordeal, like I'm
Speaker 7: watching a live event on TV. My face reflected in
Speaker 7: the glass, so while I wait, I stare at myself
Speaker 7: as though I'm seeing myself on the other side. In
Speaker 7: the final days leading up to their execution, the death
Speaker 7: row inmate is taken to a special cell away from
Speaker 7: the other inmates. Their cells completely bear a blank canvas
Speaker 7: for a busy mind. They're not allowed any tools or
Speaker 7: silverware that they could potentially harm themselves with, and a
Speaker 7: guard is stationed by their side twenty four to seven
Speaker 7: until it's time to go to the death chamber. It's
Speaker 7: a final torture leaving them sitting there and their selves
Speaker 7: rotting away, counting the days till they're predetermined death, deprived
Speaker 7: of their inalienable human right to die by surprise. What's
Speaker 7: most fucked up about it, although, is just how fiercely
Speaker 7: a death row inmate is protected against their own non
Speaker 7: schedule death. God forbid it happen in any other way.
Speaker 3: God forbid.
Speaker 7: They grant the condemned a fleeting but final moment of autonomy.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 7: I was about to see him for the first time
Speaker 7: since before he was arrested fourteen years ago. But as
Speaker 7: I looked at my reflection, all I could think about
Speaker 7: was how I was about to come face to face
Speaker 7: with everything I hate about myself.
Speaker 5: Hey bene non.
Speaker 9: I saw the cuts on him, deep lines of scar
Speaker 9: tissue rising up from his chest, some older than others,
Speaker 9: real old. Others looked fresh, still raw and faster, and
Speaker 9: tons of them all spilling out from underneath his sleeves
Speaker 9: like he had carved words and symbols into his flesh.
Speaker 7: Didn't make any fucking sense. They go to great lengths
Speaker 7: to ensure these miserable bastards on death Row can't kill
Speaker 7: themselves no sharp objects, even if he manufactured some kind
Speaker 7: of shit. These scars would have taken time years maybe
Speaker 7: if they covered his whole body and finished didn't have
Speaker 7: these scars. The last time I saw him in the
Speaker 7: courtroom before he was taken away, So.
Speaker 5: How the hell did he get him?
Speaker 9: He looked good. I mean, I mean, you don't actually
Speaker 9: look much different, That's what I mean. My first time
Speaker 9: back a man to walk.
Speaker 7: Everyone looks older, worn down, But but you don't look
Speaker 7: like you've eached today. I mean, I know, I look
Speaker 7: like shit. Haven't really slept, I don't really sleep anymore.
Speaker 7: I spent last night in my car. I was supposed
Speaker 7: to go to Tyler's.
Speaker 9: But shit, man, I mean, I don't know what you've heard.
Speaker 7: You know, if you've spoken to Dina, well you know
Speaker 7: I'm Tyler.
Speaker 3: He's missing.
Speaker 9: I went over there and he was just go.
Speaker 3: His whole place was smashed up.
Speaker 9: But I yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 9: know what's going on. Look, I spent years thinking of
Speaker 9: what i'd say to you, apologies and please and explanations
Speaker 9: for what happened and why, But it's all bullshit. I
Speaker 9: was a stupid, scared kid, and I have hated myself
Speaker 9: for all these years, and so I'm here and I'm
Speaker 9: trying to help, but I don't know if I'm doing
Speaker 9: anything right.
Speaker 6: Please say something.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 3: Look like shit. I don't want no apologies.
Speaker 9: Your study's gone.
Speaker 10: I had a lot of time in here to work
Speaker 10: on it, to work on controlling my thoughts. Dena says
Speaker 10: you freaked out on her last night.
Speaker 7: Ever since I got back up, it happened issues. Did
Speaker 7: Tina tell you about Tyler?
Speaker 10: Forget about Tyler? What forget Tyler? Tyler did his part
Speaker 10: and I'm doing mine, but you still have work to do.
Speaker 7: I know, man, I'll go back to Dana and Joe Campbell.
Speaker 9: I'm sure they need reassurances after after I FORGEBT last night,
Speaker 9: and I want to make sure that they have my
Speaker 9: statement about the Coherce testimony. No wait, I was thinking,
Speaker 9: I'm confused.
Speaker 10: What exactly do you think you're doing back here, Joe.
Speaker 7: I'm doing everything I can, everything I can do. I'm
Speaker 7: really I'm grateful for your team's.
Speaker 11: Gonna be able to make a new poop for you.
Speaker 10: But in the meantime, I said you were writing a
Speaker 10: book about all this about me?
Speaker 7: Maybe, but that's not why I'm here now.
Speaker 9: Listen, I've been reaching the steps that check to Smith
Speaker 9: took when he was involved in the original homicide investigation.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: What, how do you know?
Speaker 3: I just know? Thanks you only.
Speaker 12: Stuff you don't know, or maybe you blocked it out,
Speaker 12: or you aren't allowed to know details about you and
Speaker 12: Tie and the had leaves and the case, especially the case. Yeah,
Speaker 12: I'm practically a goddamn scholar on the subject.
Speaker 9: I have so much to ask just the history and geography.
Speaker 3: I know stuff that you can't find in the history books.
Speaker 13: I know, Man Good Winner of eighteen ninety three, what
Speaker 13: the O'Leary family took shelter during the winter blizzard got
Speaker 13: snowed in Eleanor O'Leary was trapped deep in the caves,
Speaker 13: watching her daughter starve to death. Don't ask for the
Speaker 13: Lord's help, of course, Braiden prayed, Oh, Heavenly Father, please,
Speaker 13: I beg you, please deliver my poor innocent.
Speaker 10: Child from the cool hand of death. But the Lord
Speaker 10: didn't respond. He was a no show. Maybe deep in
Speaker 10: those dark, evil caves, even God couldn't hear their small
Speaker 10: and desperate voices calling out, Okay, but I believe someone
Speaker 10: else did hear, and I imagine him appearing before h
Speaker 10: Miss Oldliarry was something resembly pity in the slits of
Speaker 10: his eyes.
Speaker 13: Good mother, you should you should tell you that he
Speaker 13: made Miss Oliery an offer.
Speaker 3: I can help you.
Speaker 5: I can object to.
Speaker 10: I can say, your poor little girl.
Speaker 5: And only if you make the deal.
Speaker 1: And poor Eleanor starved, delirious, freezing, and on the brink
Speaker 1: of death.
Speaker 2: I imagine she did.
Speaker 10: What any loving mother and a moment of defeat and
Speaker 10: weakness would do.
Speaker 2: She made the deal.
Speaker 10: He dies.
Speaker 5: Nor nothing in the scaff I'll protect you. We're going
Speaker 5: to get to know each other for very long time.
Speaker 10: I don't understand whether or not you believe that story
Speaker 10: comes Spring of eighteen ninety three, the impossible happen. The
Speaker 10: youngest daughter, Nadine, Sure shit, That little girl e murders
Speaker 10: from the cave, the only survivor of the O'Leary family.
Speaker 10: How she survived is a mystery to this day.
Speaker 7: Finch, I'm here to tell you something. Smith knew.
Speaker 5: He knew you didn't kill him.
Speaker 6: I think he knew who did.
Speaker 10: Why don't you ask him what, Detective Solomon Smith.
Speaker 9: He's lone gone, Finch.
Speaker 6: No one's seen him.
Speaker 10: Since when are you going back to the house the
Speaker 10: Fowler estayed off of twenty nine, that's where Smith was
Speaker 10: living during the investigation. Right, yeah, when you're going back there?
Speaker 3: Not cut good?
Speaker 5: How did you know that?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 7: Wait, wait wait, I have so much to talk to
Speaker 7: you about, Fitch.
Speaker 10: Do you have any idea how hard it is to
Speaker 10: speak to you. I'm not talking about just sitting here
Speaker 10: across from but literally speak words to your face.
Speaker 3: I have spent years in this place, years.
Speaker 10: Teaching myself to focus on the shapes of words, quiet
Speaker 10: in my mind, training the muscles in my face to
Speaker 10: wrap around the words properly.
Speaker 3: And I can.
Speaker 13: When I'm calling.
Speaker 10: But when I called you, all of a sudden, I
Speaker 10: couldn't get one word out clean. It was like no
Speaker 10: time had passed it all for James fucking go there
Speaker 10: first to foul the place.
Speaker 14: Tonight, Guard, We're done.
Speaker 3: So who helped a little girl?
Speaker 4: That's where the discovery of Eleanor O'Leary's journal is interesting.
Speaker 4: Miss O'Leary described the entire deal in great detail. What
Speaker 4: Fincher was most interested in this is the last few
Speaker 4: enturies of her journal. When she starts to discuss the
Speaker 4: presence inside the case with him.
Speaker 7: The truth comes in different flavors. Sometimes it's revealed in
Speaker 7: the intersection of facts.
Speaker 3: Aaron with the father, Seamus, he died first.
Speaker 7: Sometimes it's hidden the lore.
Speaker 4: As the family went to extremes to avoid starvation, Miss
Speaker 4: O'Leary's journal entries become less coherent.
Speaker 3: More disturbed.
Speaker 15: These dots are all interconnected. I can feel it. Richard
Speaker 15: Roddell being from Anniwalk, Detective Smith moving into William Fowler's
Speaker 15: place after Riddell's execution, and then coming on board the
Speaker 15: Hadley murder case, only to become convinced that James Fincher's innocence,
Speaker 15: and now Deacon Hadley's necklace found in Tyler Wilson's ransacked
Speaker 15: house after Tyler's gone missing.
Speaker 7: These devils pranks, They're.
Speaker 15: Important more than clues or converging strings on an investigation
Speaker 15: board or breadcrumb's on the trail, a thread through the labyrinth.
Speaker 15: But what was Fincher's obsession with the story of the
Speaker 15: O'Leary family. I know it's all connected somehow.
Speaker 4: According to miss O'Leary, here emerges from the very shadows
Speaker 4: of the caves and offers to help her.
Speaker 5: What doll.
Speaker 4: It would seem that miss O'Leary was lacking rational faculties, delirious, freezing, hallucinating,
Speaker 4: No doubt conjured this narrative while on the brain coach starvation.
Speaker 4: Would you agree it's a classic narrative. A surf in
Speaker 4: the garden, Fousty embargain the devil, a crossroads. Some people
Speaker 4: believe Fincher worships the devil, would you agree, doctor Tector? Well,
Speaker 4: even Satanists don't believe in the literal Satan, detective, And.
Speaker 3: What do you call people who do believe in a
Speaker 3: literal Satan? Christians?
Speaker 7: After I saw Finch at Riverbedd in Nashville, I drove
Speaker 7: back to the Fowler's place, detect dismiss less known home.
Speaker 7: In the wash of the flashlight, it looked decrepit hollowed
Speaker 7: out a skull deer and out at the night. Its
Speaker 7: front windows were opaque with dust. My flashlight didn't seem
Speaker 7: to want to penetrate the dark inside. The door, of course,
Speaker 7: was locked. What there's someone there?
Speaker 16: Come on, I have a gun, It was, dear, what
Speaker 16: the hell do you want?
Speaker 7: Three doze in a buck?
Speaker 5: A phone?
Speaker 7: They all stood right there at did you the wood
Speaker 7: staring at me, eyes reflecting back my beam shoe.
Speaker 15: What the hell?
Speaker 9: They didn't move when I shouted. It was like they
Speaker 9: were waiting for something.
Speaker 16: Okay, where those stand there? Just don't call the cops
Speaker 16: when I and I won't send hunters out here. Freezy
Speaker 16: pickens deal.
Speaker 11: Okay, okay, all right to take the smith.
Speaker 6: Let's see what you knew.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie. I didn't know what I was
Speaker 7: expecting when I got inside, but it wasn't what I
Speaker 7: was looking at.
Speaker 6: First.
Speaker 7: Off, it was cold, I mean outside it's nearly summer.
Speaker 7: In the house, cold like twenty degree drop and damp, subterranean,
Speaker 7: without the benefit of ever being worn by the sun.
Speaker 7: The house had largely been untouched since Solomon skipped out,
Speaker 7: so the furniture's all there, and the bed sheets still
Speaker 7: must from the last night he slept in the dry
Speaker 7: goods in the pantry, a single dirty plate in the
Speaker 7: sink next to a coffee cup, mold that had grown
Speaker 7: over them, long, sin stride and dead. It was like
Speaker 7: I stepped back in time. The only thing suggesting the
Speaker 7: Solomon had ever left were the open drawers and half
Speaker 7: empty closet, the hangers on the bed and he'd left quickly,
Speaker 7: and then in the back office hum around the room,
Speaker 7: moleskin tablets the kinyrad used to jot down notes on
Speaker 7: the case perhaps were scattered about. In the corner of
Speaker 7: the office, a small aluminum waste paper basket sat beneath
Speaker 7: the scorch section of the wall. Someone had made a
Speaker 7: small fire, and from the looks of it, he'd burned
Speaker 7: pages here and there from the notebooks, one of which
Speaker 7: seemed to have been burned whole. That wasn't even the
Speaker 7: weirdest thing.
Speaker 6: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 7: The weirdest thing was the wall above the waste paper basket.
Speaker 5: What are you doing?
Speaker 9: Simon writing scrawled all over it, articles from the town
Speaker 9: photo copied and pinned with no tape, and scribbled and
Speaker 9: pencil and sharp remarker, no rahm or reason of the order?
Speaker 3: What the fuck?
Speaker 7: But all of it painted a grizzly, unflattering picture of
Speaker 7: Manahawaan County. Every murder, every assault, every suicide and fire
Speaker 7: and deadly car accident ever recorded, all pinned up and
Speaker 7: noted in Solomon Smith's neat handwriting. Oh shit, it's here's tapes.
Speaker 7: These tapes were dated, but there's no labeling beyond that.
Speaker 7: From the looks of it, they went all the way
Speaker 7: up to two days before Solomon Smith skipped town. Luckily,
Speaker 7: I'd come prepared with extra batteries and a sleeping bag
Speaker 7: and a bottleful of courage. I found the most recent
Speaker 7: and popped in on this platform.
Speaker 3: What in, Hooper?
Speaker 17: I thought we were having a beer, figured we'd go
Speaker 17: to a bar or something.
Speaker 3: You sure you want to be seen with me, sir?
Speaker 3: And besides, I already moved on to whiskey a while ago.
Speaker 3: From the looks of it, you want what or not?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I go on. Then something on your mind, Hooper? Solomon.
Speaker 17: I asked you on to this case because I know
Speaker 17: you're about a mile more qualified than anybody else around here,
Speaker 17: myself included. But this is a small town. People are upset.
Speaker 17: When those two boys turned up the way they did.
Speaker 17: It felt like it was their own children been cutted
Speaker 17: in those caves, and they want closure, They want to
Speaker 17: put it behind it, and they should want the truth
Speaker 17: and maybe they'll get it. Seems to me that James
Speaker 17: Fincher truly was the only one with any real motive
Speaker 17: to harm Deacon and Thomas. I think we need to
Speaker 17: seriously consider leaning into the possibility that James Fincher killed
Speaker 17: those boys. A man, James Fincher didn't kill nobody. What
Speaker 17: do you have to go on that says he didn't experience. Look,
Speaker 17: you have no idea what being different is. To stand out,
Speaker 17: to be ostracized, marginalized, demonized, to be discriminated against in
Speaker 17: a world full of people will think they're smarter than you,
Speaker 17: who think they deserve better than you.
Speaker 4: I hear you.
Speaker 17: That's exactly why there's motive. I'm not arguing that the
Speaker 17: system is perfect, It's goddamn far from it. But right
Speaker 17: now we need to look at the impartial fact. Oh shit,
Speaker 17: James Fischer didn't want to cause trouble.
Speaker 3: He just wanted to get by.
Speaker 18: Killing those boys would be a death sentence for a
Speaker 18: kid like him in this town, and he damn well
Speaker 18: is smart enough to know it. James Fincher has been
Speaker 18: bullied since he moved here, and I'm not gonna let
Speaker 18: him be bullied into a jail cell.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 17: Look, I know you're a little bit heated and more
Speaker 17: than a little drunk, but we gotta look at this
Speaker 17: from the rest of the town's point of view too.
Speaker 17: And how's that smart enough to know it isn't facts.
Speaker 17: The fact is that multiple people have come forward pointing
Speaker 17: a finger directly at James Fincher. We have interviews, we
Speaker 17: have people willing to testify.
Speaker 19: And Reverend Perkins has been particularly vocal. Excuse me, Reverend
Speaker 19: Perkins has been putting pressure on you, all right, Sam,
Speaker 19: of course he has. Why the hell wouldn't he You
Speaker 19: get the backing of the first Baptist Church. You can
Speaker 19: have whatever you want in this town, a raise, a
Speaker 19: re election. Come on, two boys are dead, you son
Speaker 19: of a bitch. These are good people.
Speaker 17: They just want justice, and I would think that you,
Speaker 17: of all people, would be able to relate to that.
Speaker 17: Solomon Sheriff, I know what killed my boy. Maybe this
Speaker 17: was a mistake. I think we've got more than a
Speaker 17: little bit of a conflict of interest here. You understand
Speaker 17: what I'm saying. Oh, you're taking me off the case.
Speaker 17: I don't have much choice. It's my fault, it's not yours.
Speaker 17: I should have put it together before bringing you on.
Speaker 18: You need me on this thing, James Fincher don't stand
Speaker 18: a chance.
Speaker 17: I'm not so sure James Fincher deserves a chance.
Speaker 7: Detective Smith up and left his life in Atlanta, but
Speaker 7: his own personal demons followed him the Milwaukee. His son
Speaker 7: committed suicide a few years before the move. See. By
Speaker 7: all accounts, he was a smart kid, but he had
Speaker 7: a minor physical deformity born missing two fingers off his
Speaker 7: right hand. That's it. But he was bullied for it
Speaker 7: his entire life heart and one day something finally pushed
Speaker 7: him over the edge. He was eighteen years old when
Speaker 7: he died. James Fincher was eighteen at the time of
Speaker 7: the investigation. Maybe just another devil's prank is Jennifer Fowler
Speaker 7: called them.
Speaker 2: Listen, you can hear them off in the woods. I
Speaker 2: know they're there every fucking night this goddamn week, right
Speaker 2: outside my window, tapping and laughing.
Speaker 7: Fast forwarded around on that first tape, his last one.
Speaker 7: He'd recorded, come on and.
Speaker 2: You piece this shit, Come on, show your goddamn faces.
Speaker 3: Finally, come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 2: Oh oh you motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: God damn dear.
Speaker 7: The tape from the perceiving that was much different. So
Speaker 7: I skipped back a week or two and had another drink.
Speaker 2: After reading letters, James Fincher wrote to doctor Tratner. I
Speaker 2: went down to the Pottsville Library and pulled every book
Speaker 2: Fincher checked out. He'd also had the library and printed
Speaker 2: a few articles he'd found on their microfiche, and from
Speaker 2: around Halloween he's run in the Pottsville Press. As I
Speaker 2: don't know, I guess you'd call it what passes for
Speaker 2: a human interest story around here. Amongst these tales of
Speaker 2: terror and woe is this strange case of Nadine O'Leary
Speaker 2: of the O'Leary family, Scotch settlers who had landed in
Speaker 2: Norfolk and decided to try their.
Speaker 3: Luck heading west.
Speaker 2: Davis Wentworth of the newly founded Pottsville walked out onto
Speaker 2: her back porch to find a small creature hunched over,
Speaker 2: eating raw eggs whole from her chicken coop. At first,
Speaker 2: she believed it to be a mangy bear, it was
Speaker 2: so stooped and filthy. It turned out to be young
Speaker 2: Nadine O'Leary, dressed in rags, missing fingers in parts of
Speaker 2: her face from frostbite. She was nearly feral. For decades.
Speaker 2: Nadine would give only a cursory account. However, on her
Speaker 2: deathbed she told a different story.
Speaker 16: What the fuck.
Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, Well damn, a tree has landed on the
Speaker 7: roof of the house, flush up against the chimney. Jesus,
Speaker 7: Come on, detective, what else you got here?
Speaker 2: Fas cases of Tom Trevor. He's thirty four, father of
Speaker 2: two young children. Report it dead June thirtieth, nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: after being spotted on a hike with it. Laura Solace?
Speaker 3: Also what uh? Laura Solace?
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 3: Wife of Paul Solace, mother of Julian Solace? Small world?
Speaker 7: No, no fucking way.
Speaker 3: What were you doing hiking with old Tom, Miss Solace?
Speaker 2: No, he too fell, if her testimony was to be believed. No,
Speaker 2: cracked his skull wide open, brains spilled out all.
Speaker 6: Over the world.
Speaker 3: No, but why were you with him? Looks like you
Speaker 3: will with your husband at the dealership.
Speaker 2: You'll probably travel to the same tiny circles in this hellhole,
Speaker 2: probably tracked the same shitty beers and the same shitty bars.
Speaker 3: Your kids maybe even played together.
Speaker 11: Oh my god, we're.
Speaker 2: Just passing the time talking about your happy marriages, your
Speaker 2: beloved children.
Speaker 3: Did you talk about Julian? But were you going up
Speaker 3: there for something else?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: Hello? Is anyone out there?
Speaker 6: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: You get a little squirrel here?
Speaker 2: So did he take it too far, move too fast
Speaker 2: for you misunderstand your intent?
Speaker 3: Did you push him? Or did you in a moment
Speaker 3: of fear maybe he's bearing down on you.
Speaker 2: Did you pick up a rock and finish that creasy
Speaker 2: motherfucking yourself?
Speaker 3: She wouldn't. Now you're probably right. She was just out
Speaker 3: for a stroll in the woods with a friend, nothing more.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess we'll never know, will we, Julian?
Speaker 2: Why don't we talk about something else? The subject doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to agree with you.
Speaker 3: I can't think of anything.
Speaker 6: What happened to the olders?
Speaker 5: Ah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want a real devil's prank. This isn't the
Speaker 2: first house to be built on this property. Guess who
Speaker 2: the first owner of this land was?
Speaker 6: Was it shamous oldier?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Look at you, Nancy Drew, How damn son you could
Speaker 2: have been a detective. When he died, it passed down
Speaker 2: to his only living relative, Nadine, who built a cabin
Speaker 2: here and lived until the rife old age of ninety
Speaker 2: before passing it down to her grandson, who knocked it
Speaker 2: down and built this place.
Speaker 3: You find yourself sit right now?
Speaker 2: William Fowler Jennifer Fowler's granddad and my own benefactor.
Speaker 5: Oh small fucking world.
Speaker 3: You ain't kidding.
Speaker 15: The only reus what happened to them in the cave.
Speaker 2: Navin's story didn't that up. There was no way she
Speaker 2: could have sabred by herself, and on her.
Speaker 3: Deathbed she fessed up.
Speaker 2: Seamus wasn't much of a hunter, and one day I
Speaker 2: was trying to build a snare, Shamus slipped and broke
Speaker 2: his ankle, compound bone sticking out. Took him hours to
Speaker 2: hop her back to the caves. Within a couple of days,
Speaker 2: he'd succumbed to sepsis not a pretty way to die,
Speaker 2: fever dreams and visions of hell. Poor bastard. They were
Speaker 2: devastated within it. Eleanor wailed and gnashed her teeth and
Speaker 2: pulled out her hair. Though she was grieving, she was
Speaker 2: in a dumb She saw an opportunity to keep her
Speaker 2: girls alive.
Speaker 6: Oh, they ate their daddy.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: They ate him right up, bit by bit, cutting off
Speaker 2: parts of him with a rock ILLINOI shope keeping the
Speaker 2: body cold at the mouth of the cave, hoping there
Speaker 2: would be a break in the weather so they could
Speaker 2: try to make it back to civilization. But that break
Speaker 2: didn't come, and as the days passed and the meat dwindled,
Speaker 2: they began to lose all hope. Three days later, Milicine
Speaker 2: got sick dysentery, Daddy's flesh had gone rancid. One night late,
Speaker 2: the fire had died down. Nadine awoke, feeling that something
Speaker 2: wasn't right. She looked over to where her sister was
Speaker 2: sleeping and saw a form huddled over her, shaking and
Speaker 2: grunting as her eyes had just as she realized it
Speaker 2: was her mother, smothering the life out of her older
Speaker 2: daughter to put her out of her misery.
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: And this is where it gets interesting. Eleanor died in
Speaker 2: the caves too starvation. Her remains were found along with
Speaker 2: the others.
Speaker 7: So how did Nadine survive?
Speaker 2: As a child, she claimed there was someone else in
Speaker 2: the caves, a nameless and faithless man who led her
Speaker 2: to safety. Then, when she was older, she denied it,
Speaker 2: and the truth about what happened in the caves, well,
Speaker 2: Nadine carried that to her deathbed, and she died right
Speaker 2: here in this room. Only then did she whisper the
Speaker 2: story to her grandson, mister William Fowler, same man who
Speaker 2: left me this house.
Speaker 5: You didn't leave town, did you?
Speaker 3: What happened there?
Speaker 2: It is again?
Speaker 7: Let's smell what'd smell?
Speaker 2: Apple wood, smoke, lightning struck, makes for damn fine barbecue.
Speaker 3: What happened to me?
Speaker 2: Take a look around your old all, will you?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no? What happened? Really?
Speaker 2: I think I live something over there?
Speaker 6: Last? I love this, I appreciate.
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 16: Hello, Julia Tyler? Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: You probably wanted grand ship and get out of there?
Speaker 16: What where are you?
Speaker 3: Seriously? You're five?
Speaker 16: What? What the fuck?
Speaker 17: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Tyler?
Speaker 17: Tyler?
Speaker 6: Hello, Tyler?
Speaker 16: What the hell?
Speaker 7: I looked back at the house and there she was,
Speaker 7: silhouetted before the bright flames that began to engulf the
Speaker 7: Fowler homestead. A little girl in a tatter dress standing
Speaker 7: in the doorway like a whole of blackness, a nothing
Speaker 7: that's negative space, a paper girl cut out of this world,
Speaker 7: her eyes barely visible on the flickering light. It was
Speaker 7: Nadine O'Leary watching me, and soon she was enveloped by
Speaker 7: the heat waves and smoked it and golfed in front
Speaker 7: porch of the house.
Speaker 3: Breeze.
Speaker 16: What hairs right? Sing, Holy, this was an accident. The
Speaker 16: fuck up? Pick her hairs raised? Turn around, truly, I'm telling.
Speaker 14: You that, shut the fuck up. Turn around, Neil, kick
Speaker 14: your hairs right.
Speaker 7: What's the point of you talking?
Speaker 16: Yeah, the right to remain silent.
Speaker 20: Anything you say can and we'll be held against you.
Speaker 7: In a court of law, you dumb motherfucker.
Speaker 20: Once it's sixth to radio, I got it, ding car
Speaker 20: now way.
Speaker 1: The mana Walk Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Sallace,
Speaker 1: Eddie Gatheggy as James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith,
Speaker 1: Nick Cercy as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Welborn as Tyler Wilson,
Speaker 1: Jill Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappert,
Speaker 1: Scott Poythus as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Dina Fincher,
Speaker 1: Justin Matthews Smith as Paul Sawace, Tara Oaks as Laura Sallas,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Karanovich as Thomas Hadley,
Speaker 1: Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington, Body Walter as Jimmy Fincher,
Speaker 1: Brian McClure as Ian Spinks, Larry Clark as Bobby Hadley,
Speaker 1: Payden Fallis as ed LeBlanc, Vic Palisis as William Fowler,
Speaker 1: Nick Takosky as Richard Rydell, and Aileen Loy as The Darkness,
Speaker 1: with additional performances by Clint McGowan, Dina Dill, Edward Howard,
Speaker 1: Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, Christopher Curry, Bailey Heineman,
Speaker 1: David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark. Created by Connell Byrne
Speaker 1: and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper and
Speaker 1: Nicholas Dakoski, featuring our theme song Killer Inside, written produced
Speaker 1: and performed by Lera A.
Speaker 3: Lynn.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Matt Frederick, Alexander Williams, Michael Monty,
Speaker 1: and Courtney du Frees. Our executive producers at Blumhouse Television
Speaker 1: are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey, and Noah Feinberg. Produced by
Speaker 1: Dan Bush, music by Ben Lovett. Additional music by Alexander Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: This episode features the song Wayfaring Stranger, performed by Helena Rose,
Speaker 1: edited by Dan Bush, Chris Childs, Stephen Perez, and David Chen.
Speaker 1: Sound design by Benjamin Balcom. Additional sound design by Alexander Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: Dialogue editing and sound mixing by Juan Campos. Recorded at
Speaker 1: Studio Awesome in Los Angeles, Sound Byte Studio in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and Echo Mountain in Ashville. Casting by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy
Speaker 1: and Meg Mormon. Our dialect coach is Linda Bessesti, Assistant director,
Speaker 1: Michael Monty, second assistant director, script supervisor and production coordinator
Speaker 1: Sarah Klein. Supervising producer Josh Than Special thanks to Mary
Speaker 1: Ellen and Jason Davis, Jonathan Dieter, and Joe Rickman. The
Speaker 1: Manowalk Caves is a production of iHeart Radio, Blumhouse Television
Speaker 1: and Psycopia Pictures Us.
Speaker 5: The Crows Seltendi.
Speaker 2: And enter.
Speaker 3: A home way to card.
Speaker 9: I'm going there to see my sign who shed for me.
Speaker 5: It's precious Bill. I am just going way over toward him.
Speaker 17: I am just go