1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: I Eat, Breathe, and Sleep the New York Jets. My 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 2: team knows what it means to wear the Green and White. No, 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: that is a tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. That's hard 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: to do. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good shop game 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: Day Ready, jewelry styles and so much more at kendrastot 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: dot com. 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 4: Dude's what's going on? 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Man? You're one of the busiest people in this industry. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how it is. You know, what's the 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: season in? Everybody thinks there's kind of like a dead 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: period for football, but there really isn't because you go 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: into free agency and then you get ready for the 16 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: draft and then combines next week. So really the only 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: dead period is kind of after OTAs for maybe like 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: those six weeks. But other than that, you know, football 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: never sleeps. 20 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: One of the most pressing questions for this new regime 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: right now head coach Aaron Glant and GM Darren Mugi, 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I think. 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: First and foremost obvious one is what are they going 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: to do with the quarterback position? The Jets have already 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: come out and it seems like Aaron Rodgers won't be 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: part of the future plans for the New York Jets, 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: so they have to figure it out. I know me 28 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: and you have talked to nauseum about who I like 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: to be a bridge quarterback. I think that's Tyrod Taylor. 30 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: His teammates love him, consummate pro and when you look 31 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: at the history of him, more specifically when he's been 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: a bridge guy, it's really worked out for the young 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: guy that the Jets or any other team is drafted. 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: You go back to when he was with the Browns, 35 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield was drafted one overall. He was a consummate 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: pro for him, showed him the rope, show him how 37 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: to be a pro. Then you go to the Chargers 38 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: where he was, you know, slotted in as a starter 39 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: and Justin Herbert was taking in the first round and 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: both of those scenarios have worked out for those young quarterbacks. So, 41 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: say the Jets are to take a quarterback in the 42 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: draft some part in the draft, I think having Tyrod 43 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: Taylor there to be the consonment pro to be the 44 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: bridge quarterback works. I go back to the cross practice 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: with the Commanders last year. You know, was Inklin whether 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers didn't practice, but the rapport that Tyrod had 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: with Garrett Wilson was out of this world, right, So 48 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: I think that says a lot into And then also 49 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: the Miami not the Miami of the Giants cross practice 50 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: as well, like they rapport during that cross practice. And 51 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: then when he played in garbage time versus the Buffalo Bills, right, 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: he was able to find Garrett Wilson in the red 53 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: zone for a touchdown. So I think that's somebody that 54 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson would like as well too. 55 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Three drives last year for Tyrod Taller and it all 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: resulted in touchdowns. 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: Can't beat that. 58 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Hey, we didn't talk to you last week, but your 59 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: reactions on the Jets go in public with it that 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: they are indeed party ways with Aaron Rodgerson. 61 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anytime you were starting a new with 62 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: a new regime regime, sometimes you just want to rip 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: the band aid off and start a new right, Darren Mouji, 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: the new GM, Aaron Glenn and the new head coach, 65 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 2: they get to kind of pick which direction they want 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: to go with this team, and more specifically the quarterback 67 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: position and not have a haulover from the last regime, 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: and I understand it, like sometimes you just want to 69 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: start a new right, Aaron, Glenn's trying to start a 70 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 2: new culture here and sometimes you have to change out 71 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: pieces to start or bring in your culture right when 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to build a culture in the locker room. 73 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: So wasn't surprised. I know me and you have talked 74 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: about the EA. I felt like it was heading in 75 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: that direction. All the best to Aaron Rodgers. Appreciate him 76 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: wearing the green and white. I just think with a 77 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: new regime, they wanted to start a new and go 78 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: in the direction that they want to go in. In 79 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: regards to picking a new quarterback for this team, yeah. 80 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: You have brace being a jet. 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: They had the terrible misfortune of what happened at the 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo building. Bust Is asked to get back on the field, 83 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: gave it everything he had over the course of those 84 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: seventeen games. 85 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: Now, when you look at the. 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Roster you mentioned Tyrod Tayler, you also have Jordan Travis, 87 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: who suffered that devastating ankle injury at Florida State, was 88 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: on a file list all season. You got Adrian Martinez 89 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: here as well, looking forward to twenty twenty five, do 90 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: you think this regime ultimately gets somebody in freeing seat 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: and drafts a player. 92 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: How do you view it at this time? 93 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: That's a pot maybe in a possible question to answer 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: because we're only a couple of days away from the combine. 95 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, correct, I do believe they will draft somebody, 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: whether that's the second round, maybe even the first round. 97 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean, Jackson Dart is a guy I know that 98 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, I love a lot, and there's been some 99 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: buzz and a lot of teams potentially might like him 100 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: as QB too. So is that, you know, too heavy 101 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: at the number seven pick? And that's going to be 102 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: up to Aaron Glenn and Deir Moojie and their staff 103 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 2: and all the work they they've done behind the scenes 104 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: to make that decision to make the right decision in 105 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: regards to potentially taking a quarterback in the first or 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: second round. Justin Fields is another guy that makes a 107 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: lot of sense. I think still only twenty five years old, 108 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: so he's younger and a lot of these quarterbacks coming 109 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: out in college right now going into the NFL. So 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: you talk about a guy that has experienced a guy 111 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: that was four and two with the Pittsburgh Steelers last year. 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: Maybe this is an intriguing spot for him because he 113 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: has opportunity to potentially, you know, compete for the starting 114 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: role with the New York Jets. He'll be a free 115 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: agent as well, So I do see the Jets for 116 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: sure drafting a guy, whether that's round one, Round two, 117 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: or round three. But I could also see them bringing 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: in another veteran because Tyrod is only on I mean, 119 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: he's signed a two year deal, so he's only got 120 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: essentially a one year deal when it comes to playing 121 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: for the Jets next year, So they could potentially bring 122 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: in another veteran as well. 123 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: So safe to say we're not going to see a 124 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: repeat here in the quarterback class in twenty five right 125 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: where you had six picks No. Twelve being signal callers. 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: And how about the Denver Broncos. Their assistant GM at 127 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the time, Darren Mugi. If you told us last February 128 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: that the Broncos were gonna take Bowe next, I probably 129 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe you. 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're alone in that sentiment. I 131 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't have believed you either. Now, if there was one 132 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: team that I felt like the marriage worked perfectly for 133 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: Bownicks is with Sean Payton, and essentially that's who took 134 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: him right. Has a Drew Brees type skill set when 135 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: he was at Oregon, very high completion percentage, not really 136 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: throwing the ball down the field, dunking and dunking, Matriculating 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: the ball down the field uses athletic ability, and that's 138 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: what Sean Payton did when he was with the Denver Broncos. 139 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: He made life easy for bow Knicks when you go 140 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: and turn on the tape like he had answers for 141 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: the young quarterbacks so the quarterback didn't have to think 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: as much. Now, you would think going into this year 143 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: he would grow a little bit. But to your point earlier, 144 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: there will not be six quarterbacks taking in the first round. 145 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: I honestly don't even think there'll be six quarterbacks taking 146 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: in the first two, maybe even first three rounds this year. 147 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: It's not a strong quarterback draft class. There are some 148 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: guys that have high upside and high potential, but guys 149 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: like that usually go in the fourth fifth round. 150 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: Give me some high upside guys and we'll be talking 151 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: about him in the weeks and once ahead. 152 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson Darter guy we talked about earlier. To me, 153 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: when you talk about you hear the cliche in locker 154 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: rooms like I want a foxhold guy. A guy can 155 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: go into the foxhole with that epandomizes what Jackson Dart is. 156 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: He's a guy that's not gonna be scared to stare 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: down the rush and deliver an accurate pass. I mean 158 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: we saw it multiple times. You go back and you 159 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: go to that Georgia game. The first three plays he 160 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: got wrecked. Hea. I was like, there's no way this 161 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: kid's getting up. He not only got back up, but 162 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: he led them to a win versus Georgia, who was 163 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: I believe the number one or number two team at 164 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: the time when they played them. So, when you talk 165 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: about a guy that is going to be ultra competitive, 166 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: that is tough as nails, Jackson Dart has that. He 167 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: has a good enough arm, and a lot of people 168 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: question his arms strength. You see it on tape. He 169 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: has a good enough arm. The biggest thing for him 170 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: is throwing with anticipation and processing quicker, which with young 171 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: guys that tends to be an issue. Right, So you 172 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: would hope coaching helps that as well as far as 173 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: trusting it enough to let the ball go and throwing 174 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: with anticipation and also going through your rushing a lot 175 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: quicker because in the NFL you got to be able 176 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: to go to one, two, three and let the ball 177 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: go right, and he struggles with that at times. But 178 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: again I think with coaching he can really help that 179 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: can really help his area too. I mean, the most 180 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: gifted thrower, without a doubt is Kim Moore. I mean, 181 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: this guy has arrogant arm talent, literally like arrogant, and 182 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: sometimes it's too his detriment because he really feels like 183 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: he can make any throw on the field. And a 184 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: lot of people will have some comparisons to Patrick Mahomes, 185 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: especially when he was coming out of Texas Tech, because 186 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: that's how Mahomes was like there was there wasn't a 187 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: throw he didn't like on the field, and cam Moore 188 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: can be like that. But also like that, even though 189 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: he has arrogant arm talent, he's cool, calm and collective 190 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: and he has like a I want to say, like 191 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: a laser focus when he's on the field, Like he's 192 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: all about business when he's on the field, and if 193 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: he feels like he has the ball and the game 194 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: is within grasp, He's gonna win it for you. That's 195 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: the mentality that he has. Sir Derrick Sanders is probably 196 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: to me the most pro ready prospect. Talking about a 197 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: guy that can process the best out of everybody, a 198 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: guy that has been in an NFL offense, a guy 199 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: that plays one within the pocket better than anybody probably 200 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: in this draft class. I know this question marks about 201 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: his arm talent and then athletic ability, but I was 202 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: talking about this earlier today. To me, he showed enough 203 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: escapability where you're comfortable drafting him high in the first round, 204 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: like he'll be able to get out of some trouble 205 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: if he needs to. And let's not forget like his 206 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: first year in Colorado, his officer line didn't block it all. 207 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: Like he was under durest the entire year. So I 208 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: know people were saying, well, I'm worried about how he'll 209 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: play if he isn't protected. Well, he wasn't protected well 210 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: in Colorado, so I mean, like that's what he's known 211 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: his whole career, So he's got to be fine. A 212 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: name that people aren't talking about enough Coma Cord from Syracuse, 213 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: a guy that essentially was thrown on the scrap pile 214 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: by Ohio State, helped Sarah Huse to ten wins. I 215 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: don't think people understand how pivotal that is because, let's 216 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: not forget they had a new head coach because the 217 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: other the coach wasn't winning right. Bred Brown came in 218 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: there and revamped that whole system and also instilled confidence 219 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: in cal McCord. And if you go to that final 220 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: game last year versus Miami and cam Ward, who's probably 221 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: gonna be the number one pick overall, you wouldn't be 222 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: able to tell who's the best quarterback in the nation. 223 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: That's how well cal McCord played in that game. So 224 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: to me, I talked about three other guys. He's a 225 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: dark horse in this class because he could potentially even 226 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: work his way up throughout the process to be a 227 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: second round pick. Man, I love this. 228 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to speak more about the quarterbacks with 229 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you as time progresses. How about the most pressing needs 230 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: for the Jets here in the twenty twenty five off season. 231 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt, we talked about quarterback. I mean, 232 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: without a signal Carter, it's hard to win in this league. 233 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: But some more pressing needs for sure the safety position. 234 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: The Jets could potentially need to safeties. I believe both 235 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: of their starting safeties last year or free agency year 236 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: actually their top three because Ashton Davis only signed a 237 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: one year deal as well. So you're talking about, Yeah, 238 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: you talk about your top three safeties being free agents. 239 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: So that's going to be a position to need. I 240 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: would not be surprised if that that's not only drafted 241 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: the safety, but maybe trying to find one in free 242 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: agency as a front line starter and bring in two 243 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: guys because that's a position of need for sure. Defensive tackle. 244 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: You know me, Ea, I've spoken nauseum about this for 245 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: the last few years. We need to draft somebody to 246 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: grow with Quinn Williams. I know, ea, how many times 247 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: have you heard me say that we need to draft 248 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: somebody to grow with Quinn Williams And this is the 249 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: year to do it. Ea. Just going through the tape, 250 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: this is probably the deepest defensive tackle group ever like 251 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: that I've ever studied. Ever. Like there's literally probably maybe 252 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: fifteen guys that could be considered the top fifty picks, 253 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: which is something which is saying something right Like, I'm 254 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: not a mathematician, right but I would say that's what 255 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: like twenty five cent of the of the top fifty 256 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: picks could be defensive tackles. That's how deep this group is, right, 257 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: So that could be a pressing need at seven. I 258 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: just think, you know, liter Taylor does factor into that decision. 259 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: I think he needs to be a part of the future. 260 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: But they definitely need to pair somebody with Quinn Williams 261 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: that can grow with him as well. I said, safety, 262 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: defensive tackle, tight end, right, love conk he's a free agent. 263 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: We don't know what right correct, So right now you 264 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: have Rutger, who you know I have affinity for, but 265 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: they can get a little bit more dynamic at the 266 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: tight end position. And then also we don't know what's 267 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: going to happen at right tackle with Morgan Moses. You 268 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: need a guy that's going to be able to help 269 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: you in the run game blocking as well. Now, Jeremy 270 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: Rutger can do that as well, but I think there's 271 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: a guy like Tyler Warren that makes a lot of sense. Now, 272 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: last year I wasn't as high taking a brock Bowers 273 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: that high. I might have been stupid and saying that 274 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: after what he did is rookie here. But Tyler Warren 275 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: is a slower George Kittle. And that's not to say 276 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: any disrespectful thing to Tyler Warren. That's me praising him 277 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: because he will rip your face off in the run 278 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: game blocking. But he's so dynamic with the ball in 279 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: his hand and not just catching it like they handed 280 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: the ball to him. He stopped the ball at center 281 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: and ran a route last year for Penn State. Like 282 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: he can do so many things. So right now, those 283 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: would be my top three outside of quarterback when you 284 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: talk about d tackle, tied in and safety. But we 285 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: can't forget receiver because we potentially are going to lose 286 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: two guys and you know, Alan Lazard and also Devonte 287 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Adams depending on what their contracts look like. I don't 288 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: see the Jets, you know, with that cat number Davonte 289 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: has staying on the roster, and then also Alan Lazard 290 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: doesn't have any more guaranteed money on his contract. I 291 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: could see the Jets potentially moving on. So we need 292 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: a receiver too as well. So Tedoroe McMillan at seven 293 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: makes a lot of Central Arizona as well. 294 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: All right, So getting back to seven and defensive tackle, 295 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: let me throw the hot name out. 296 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: At you from Michigan Mas. 297 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: You just said this defensive tackle class is the best 298 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: that you've ever seen. So how much do you take 299 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: that into account when you're sitting up there at sea. 300 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: And that's the thing, right, do you believe Mason Graham 301 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: is truly transcendent? Because if that's the case, you have 302 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: to take him. It doesn't matter what the rest of 303 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: the class looks like. Right now. People will question about 304 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: his arm length. He doesn't have the biggest arms, but 305 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: I kind of liking it to a lot to coming 306 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: out last year from UCLA, he was the most pro 307 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: ready defensive lineman. That's what Mason Graham is as far 308 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: as understanding leverage, understanding how the offensive line is trying 309 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: to block you, how to defeat blocks, not only in 310 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: the run game, in the past game. That's what Mason 311 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: Graham gives you. Now to your point, Ea, this is 312 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: a deep defensive tackle class and there's gonna be starters 313 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: probably all the way up into the thirty four route 314 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: that could start from day one. So maybe you do 315 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: take that in consideration. If you have you know, a 316 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: tetor Rolle McMillan there, or you need Tyler Warren at 317 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: tight end. Right, maybe the offensive tackle because if Morgan 318 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: Mosses doesn't resign, maybe a Calvin Banks is there. Maybe 319 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: consider him. The only thing is with Olu Fashionu solidifying 320 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: himself as left tackle, Calvin Banks only played left tackles. 321 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: I worry about him going over to the right side. 322 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Fashion New did it last year, but he was a 323 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: totally different player from right tackle to left tackle. I 324 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: think we all saw that on tape, like he was 325 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: bred to be a left tackle. I think Calvin Banks 326 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: kind of fits that mold as well. So it'll be 327 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: interesting to see what the Jets do. So again, if 328 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: you believe that Mason Graham is truly transcendent, then you 329 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: take him there. But if not, because this is a 330 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: deep defensive tackle group, maybe you take a receiver or 331 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: a tight end to help you on the offensive side. 332 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 333 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: jewelry company at Shining Bright and doing good shop, game 334 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: Day Ready, jewelry styles and so much more at kendriscott 335 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: dot com. 336 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Do you get a feel for what the Jets are 337 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna be defensively? I know, Aaron Glad it is not 338 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: gonna speak until next week probably Indianapolis, and he just 339 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: finished his coaching staff, so we got to give him 340 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: time to greet. But just looking at his history as 341 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: a play caller, maybe in Detroit, and then looking at 342 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Steve Wilks's career as a coordinator is a play caller, 343 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: and then matching it up with the Jets personality, you 344 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: get a sense of what they're going to try to 345 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: do on that side of the ball. 346 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Pressure, pressure, pressure, Like him and Aaron Glenn were one 347 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: of the most higher rated pressure guys as defensive colonators 348 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: in the league when Wilkes was calling the defense in Arizona, 349 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: when he was calling the defense in Carolina, like, that's 350 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: what he was synonymous with, bringing pressure. Aaron Glenn, I mean, 351 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: you know that Detroit Lions are playing man and blitzing, 352 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: how Like that's what they do, right, So it'll be 353 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: interesting to see that marriage of those two guys because 354 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: Steve Wooks has played in a three four, four to 355 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: three hybrid, but he's also been a traditional four to 356 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: three when he's with the San Francisco forty nine ers 357 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: as well, So it'll be interesting to see. Because Aaron 358 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: Glenn said he's gonna let Steve Wooks call the defense. 359 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: But how much input of what Aaron Glenn wants the 360 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: defense to look like will he have? You know when 361 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: it comes to Steve Wilks and them building up that defense. 362 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: So that'll be the thing. But one thing I know 363 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: about both of those coaches, they are going to bring pressure. 364 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: They're going to want to speed up the clock for 365 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback. So it'll be interesting, right because the Jets 366 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: for the last couple of years under Robert sla and 367 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: Jeff obrig have been a predominantly four down front. We're 368 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: gonna let our defensive line get after you right now. 369 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: Albrook switched the things up and started adding more pressure 370 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: towards the end of the backyard last year, but traditionally, 371 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: right this is a team that is a built off 372 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: its four man rush. So it'll be interesting to see 373 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: that marriage between the current players we have who we add, 374 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: and then also Steve Well and also Aaron Glenn and 375 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: their marriage and how they want this defense to look like. 376 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of names that have expiring contracts, you mentioned Conklin 377 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: and Moses, Let's keep it a defensive. 378 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: Side of the ball. 379 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Your thoughts in Jamie Sherwood the team on me from 380 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: last year with an expiring contract. Contract in DJ Reid 381 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: as well, because you spoke rightfully so about the need 382 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: of the safety position. DJ Reid set to hit the 383 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: market possibly the quantest figures here JBC and a couple 384 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: other young guys. 385 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: And another name that we haven't brought up, Brandon Nichols. 386 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: He's going to be free agent too, and he's been 387 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: our third corner for the last three years and he's 388 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: been productive every time he's been in the start lineup. 389 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't think enough of get Nation is talking about 390 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: him being a fre agent because obviously DJ's the big name, 391 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: and rightfully so, he played at a pro Bowl level 392 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: last year and he's going to probably be the top 393 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: corner in fregency. Sometimes he as it's just best to 394 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: hit the market at the right time, right if you're 395 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: DJ reed now it sucks for us, right because I 396 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: would love to have him back, and I think he 397 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: would love to play for Aaron Glenn because they kind 398 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 2: of mold each other and how they play like they 399 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: were both undersized corners who a lot of people didn't 400 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in. Even though Aaron Glenn 401 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: did go in the first round. DJ Reid I believe 402 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: went fourth or fifth round. But the fightiness that they 403 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: both played with the tennasty right, they both had really 404 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: good rundown speed as far as recovery speed. DJ Reid 405 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: used to be a pro returner, a g return kicks right, 406 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: So like I know that DJ Reed. You know a 407 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: lot of people at the end the season were like, 408 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: no way he's coming back. But I think when they 409 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: were on Glenn got the job, it kind of lent 410 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: itself to DJ Reed thinking like, you know what, I 411 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: would love to play for him. 412 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: Now. 413 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, as a player, you want to maximize your years, 414 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: you want to get the most money possible. So DJ's 415 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: probably gonna be the top corner on the board. But 416 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: Brendon Eckles is a guy I think the Jets really 417 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: take a hard look at bringing back because anytime he 418 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: was thrust in the action, he was productive. Like one 419 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: thing he does is take the football away, like the 420 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: ball gravitates too. And I know we're talking about Aston 421 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: Davis earlier, but sam could be said for Brandon Eckles, 422 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: Like anytime he's in the game, the ball gravitates to him. 423 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: So like Corny on the low is an under underlying 424 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: need like that kind of major underlying need because I 425 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: love Stickers played some spot duty here and there last year. 426 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: Are you comfortable enough going into the season saying he's 427 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: your court CB two off the rip? You still have 428 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: Michael Carter there. I think Brandon Nichols makes a lot 429 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: of sense bringing him back the Jamien Sherwin one. People 430 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: aren't talking about enough. He's gonna have a major market. 431 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: He led the NFL in solo tackles with ninety eight 432 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: and I told you all last year, da I was 433 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: like the speed that he plays with, right, you can 434 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: see the transition from safety to linebacker by the way 435 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: he plays. And the crazy thing is he was kind 436 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: of learning on the job here because his first couple 437 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: of years he's more of a you know, a special 438 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: teams Maven backed up CJ and Quincy who missed any time, right, 439 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: So he didn't play that much. And teams come out 440 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: predominantly in eleven personnel, which is won back, one tight end, 441 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: three receivers, So we were in Nickel a lot, right, 442 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: So he didn't play a lot his first three years, 443 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: and then CJ gets banged up this year, and boy 444 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: did he take off, and I knew he would take off. 445 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Talking to Robert Soler, he was like, he's one of 446 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: the smartest kids he's ever been around. Right, uh, but 447 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: he's had this like his second year playing for the Jets, 448 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 2: Jamien sure was gonna have a nice market. I think 449 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: Theyets gotta do whatever it takes because he's only twenty 450 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: five years old. Like guys that are that young that 451 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: can be building blocks for you, you don't let him out 452 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: the door. So but he's earned every right to test 453 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: the market and see what he's gonna get. But again, 454 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: that's a guy you don't want to let let leave 455 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: and walk out the door. 456 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: He's an other unique dude because he brought it physically 457 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: when he got his opportunity unfortunately when CJ. Mosley went 458 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: down last season. But he just has it to in 459 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: turn some of his approach every day. The guy can 460 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: know off the field he's gonna be doing the right 461 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: things and he playing play out. You don't got to 462 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: worry about what he's gonna be doing because he's doing 463 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: it full steam ahead sideline the sideline guys all over 464 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: the place. 465 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: For sure, exactly. I think that's what separates him, Like 466 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: the speed at which he played, he plays with and 467 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: the way you're able to play at that speed is 468 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: because you're doing the work throughout the week, the film 469 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: study right, understanding concepts, understanding blocking schemes. You're able to 470 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: play that fast and have ninety eight solo tackles because 471 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: you've put the work in throughout the week to know 472 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: what the team is gonna run. And once you see something, 473 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: you're not gun shy, you hit it downhill. So again, 474 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: I think teams are gonna look at him saying he's 475 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: got his best football ahead of him because this was 476 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: his first year as a starter, and you saw what 477 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: he did. He played at a Pro Bowl type level. 478 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: So like again, he's gonna have a nice size market. 479 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: But if I'm the Jets, there's no way I let 480 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: him out the door. 481 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: Is I gotta get your thoughts on Jermaine Johnson taking 482 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: his social media of late saying to be honest, y'all, 483 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: let's stop all the hate and. 484 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 4: Buy in even as fans. 485 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't help anyone being surrounded with negativity. 486 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: I get it. 487 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: I've been here three going on four seasons now and 488 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I want to change two. But you have to take 489 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: what you want and make stuff put that parentheses happen. 490 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I just asked as fans to just buy in and 491 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: surround the team with positivity and blind faith, because that's 492 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I know the negativity is coming from 493 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: a place and passion for the team. 494 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: I get it. I'll do all I can on and 495 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: off this field to turn things around. 496 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: I know it's the New York media at all, and 497 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be tough, but let's just buy in 498 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: and say epic. 499 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: It's a new year with the new front office and coaches. 500 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: Let's go. Why not can't hurt? Right? Negativity can though, 501 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: just the thought. 502 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: That's why I love that guy. That's why I was 503 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: the table to draft him when we did three years ago. 504 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: True leader on the field, and I think the Jets 505 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: sorely missed his energy and his leadership last year, more 506 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: specifically on the defensive side. But he's right. I mean, ea, 507 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times I was on 508 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: X Twitter, whatever you want to call it, and a 509 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: lot of the fans were just upset with the Rodgers 510 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: because it was obviously was It felt like it was 511 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: a split decision when it came to the fan base. 512 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: When it came to Aaron Rodgers, right, But I'm with 513 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: your Maine, Like again, this is a new regime. They 514 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: want to do things their way. Sometimes you got to 515 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: start a new rip the band aid off, like you said, 516 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 2: the unfortunate what happened to Aaron Rodgers after only four 517 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: plays with the Buffalo Bills, played obviously through some injuries 518 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: last year and got it, you know, started playing some 519 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: really good football towards the end of last year. But 520 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's a production business. 521 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: And when you win five games, a lot of times 522 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: when a new regime comes in, they want to start 523 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: a new So why not just get behind the t 524 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: tea at least give it an opportunity for Aaron Gland, 525 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: for Darren Mouji to have a set plan and execute 526 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 2: it before you're already willing to, you know, sell the ships. 527 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: Right. 528 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: So I'm with Jermaine one hundred percent, Like again, I 529 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: get it right, I've lived it with you guys. Like 530 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: the last time we had a winning season was when 531 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: I was there in twenty fifteen. So trust me, I'm 532 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: in it with you guys, and I believe in what 533 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 2: Jermaine is saying. Like, let's just lock into this season 534 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: because I mean we've seen it time and time again. 535 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: A lot of people thought the Buffalo Bills were going 536 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: to be in a rebuild last year. They go to 537 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. Right, they changed coaches for the Chargers, 538 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: hall Ball comes in, nobody knew who their offensive weapons 539 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: were going to be. They go to the playoffs. Right, 540 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: You just never know, right. The Denver Broncos another perfect example. 541 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: Right after losing Russell Wilson, not having any cap money 542 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: because of Russell Wilson's deal, they draft the quarterback in 543 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: the first round and they go to the playoffs. So 544 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: just let things play out, right, and then we'll decide 545 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 2: after that. But again, no need for the negativity this 546 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: early in the process because the plan hasn't even been 547 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: laid out. Like you said, Aaron Glenn literally just created 548 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: his staff, which again I thought he had a home 549 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: run on a lot of those pickups. Then getting Steve Wilkes, 550 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: a guy that has head coaching experience, especially for a 551 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 2: first year head coach, is going to be big. He 552 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: can lean on Steve wils because he's done it not 553 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: only at Arizona, but he was the interim coach with 554 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers, so that's somebody you can lean on. 555 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: I think Chris Banjo was a home run pick, a 556 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: guy used to love to see compete when I played 557 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: when he was at the Arizona Cardinals. I thought that 558 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: was a home run pick. Tenner Ingstrand a guy that 559 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: was the passing game coordinator who was under Ben Johnson 560 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: with the Detroit Lions. And I think bringing in Scott Turner, 561 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: a guy that's been a coach for fourteen plus years 562 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: whose call plays, makes a lot of sense because now 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 2: Tanner Ingstran can lean on Scott Turner. Right. So, like 564 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: I thought, Eric Glyn did a massivel job of putting 565 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: this staff together, and I think one of the biggest 566 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 2: keeps right because he was on the staff last year 567 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: with Sean Jefferson. Obviously, Garrett Wilson loves this guy, and 568 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: I haven't heard one player say anything bad about Sean Jefferson. 569 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: I've had the privilege to go to many training camp 570 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: practices there at one just drive and just the energy 571 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: that he coaches with. It's infectious. And I'm glad that 572 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn, you know, kept him on staff. 573 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: So we'd be remiss if we didn't ask you about 574 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: one of Darren Mushi's hires, senior personnel advisor, former Lejay 575 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Dousable colleague Rex Spielman. 576 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: One are the Jets stealing oh Man? 577 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: Well, I told Rick the other day, EA, like, I 578 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: can't wait to get the ones. They Jets drive when 579 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: you're there and just come in your office and mess 580 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: with you, right like my coworker from CBS Lett just 581 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: high and dry over here. But I'm not bad because 582 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: he's gonna be with my Jets. This is a guy 583 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: that was a former GM. He's had so many hits. 584 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: Let's not forget. This is the guy that drafted Justin Jefferson. 585 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: Just to put it into perspective for everybody out there, 586 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: he's been a really good personnel guy. I always love 587 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: our tips when it comes to the draft in regards 588 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: to how we see prospects. A lot of times we're 589 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: on the same page, but every once in a while 590 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: me and Rick are not on the same page. But 591 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: he's a guy that is going to be a sounding 592 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: board for Darren Mugi and also Eric Glenn who has 593 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: a background and being a pro scout as well, so 594 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: he's there to be a sounding board for them. I 595 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: thought that was a great hire, especially for a first 596 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: time head coach in a first time GM, to have 597 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: somebody in the building that's done it at that level 598 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: and has had some success at drafting and bringing in 599 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: players via free agency in Minnesota. I thought that that 600 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: was a no brainer, and he was a guy that 601 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: was pivotal in the hiring of Darren Mugi and Eron 602 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: Glynn as well. 603 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: What are you most looking forward to as far as the. 604 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: Combine when you go there? 605 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 606 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: What is your focus? Because so many different things are 607 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: happening there during the week. 608 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not the biggest guy when it comes to 609 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: the on field like forty times and bench and all 610 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: that stuff. Now, again for defensive linemen in regards to 611 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to see traits when it comes to the 612 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: on field like bag drills and stuff like that, because 613 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: you can kind of see some traits. But you know 614 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: what I like the most ea talking to the players 615 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: right because you get a temperament of who they are now. Again, 616 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: it's a lot different than the Combine because it's not 617 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: like the Senior Bowl where you get to see them 618 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: for like two or three days, and how they interact 619 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: with their teammates and everything like during the combine, will 620 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: probably get like ten minutes with each player, but it's 621 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: good just to see like their temperament and how they 622 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: care themselves during interviews, how they interact with just the 623 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: staff that are out there in Indianapolis, because you know, 624 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: this EA is like a long walk way you walk 625 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: through to get to where the media is and everything. 626 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: And how are you treating the staff that are there 627 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: at the convention center right? How are you acting in 628 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: the interviews? How do you carry yourself like? These are 629 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: all things that I'm looking at for these players because 630 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: this is the biggest interview of their life where they 631 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: get to talk to all thirty two teams. They're gonna 632 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: go through so much medical things when they're there, as 633 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: far as so many tests to make sure everything is 634 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: copoesthetic with their bodies. But to me, it's their temperament 635 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to watch the most. And then again, 636 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 2: like the on field things are bigger for me than 637 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: the actual forty time I think people just get too 638 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: caught up in the forty time too often. Some of 639 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: the agility drills are big too, because those kind of 640 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: translate to what you can do athletically, but as far 641 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: as running in a straight line, it's like in football, 642 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: you're never running in a straight line barely maybe as 643 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: a receiver on a go route, but even then you're 644 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: setting up the go route to run past somebody. So like, yes, 645 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: the forty is quote unquote important, but that's the last 646 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: thing I look at. I call it the underwear Olympics, right. 647 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 2: I watched the game film and then also how the 648 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: temperament of the player is. That's the biggest thing for me, 649 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: especially when they're out there competing in the agility drills. 650 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: And even if you don't test while in the weeks ahead, 651 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have your own pro day, so you're gonna 652 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: be able to either stand on that score or stand 653 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: on that lifting them out, or stand on what you 654 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: did in terms of some of those drills, or you 655 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: can just repeat that. 656 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: And I know I'm making it, I'm oversimplifying a little bit, 657 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: but my thing is it's an opportunity. If you don't 658 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 4: want to take it, you don't have to take it. 659 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: If you're gonna be if. 660 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna be select it at the top of the 661 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: first round, and that's what you're agent's telling you. But 662 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: you got nothing to lose either, because you still can 663 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: go to your pro day and take care of business 664 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: there as well. 665 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always interesting to see what agents and players 666 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: decide to do with the combine because I know you 667 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: said you can always like fix what you did in 668 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: the combine that pro day, but sometimes if you're athletically 669 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 2: limited in a certain area, you can't fix it. It 670 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: is what it is, right, So, like that's why we've 671 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 2: seen more and more lately guys not competing at the COMBA, 672 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: Like Marven Harrison Junior decided to do nothing at the combin, Right, 673 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna get ready to play football because 674 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna pay me to do. We've seen 675 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: at times quarterbacks not throw and only throw at their 676 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: pro day, and it'll be interesting to see if cam 677 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: Wood and shaudor Sanders actually do throw at their combine 678 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: or whether they feel more comfortable throwing with guys they've 679 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: thrown with all year long at the pro day. Right, 680 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: That's always a little gamesmanship when it comes to the 681 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: quarterback position as well. Right, will certain defensive linemen that 682 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: are probably going in the top ten, will they run? Right? 683 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: Will a due a card to do anything, because right 684 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: now he's the number one prospect on most people's draft boards. 685 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: Him and Travis Hunter, Like, how much will they do? 686 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: Will Travis Hunter do receiver and corner drills? That's another 687 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: thing to think about, right, if he's going top five, 688 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: does he need to go out there and do that 689 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: or does he just do it at Pro Day? Right, 690 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: So these are the things that we'll be watching throughout 691 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: this process of the Combine. And again it seems like 692 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: the players have started to shift the power more on 693 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: their side and they've done less at the combine as 694 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: the years have gone on. 695 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, ultimately, you're a guy who lives in the film room. 696 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I say, the tape doesn't lie. 697 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: If you were production you know me, it's all about 698 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: the tape. 699 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: If you were productive in college and you played against 700 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: some of the best players at that level, I think 701 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be productive in the National Football League. 702 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: And if you went to a small school, you just 703 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: saw a lot of those guys down in Mobile already 704 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: they competed a number of those guys made money for 705 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: themselves already by the performances they just put forth there 706 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: at the senior pol you know, out there in Pets. 707 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Two guys that come to mind. I'm glad you 708 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: brought this up. Gray's Abel from North Dakota State, who 709 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: played left tackle there. He literally played all five positions 710 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, took snap to center. It looked 711 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: like he had done it his whole life, which is crazy. 712 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: Some people are now talking about him maybe going in 713 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: the back of the first round EA, and I wouldn't 714 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: be surprised. He's kind of got that Graham Barton trajectory 715 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: from Duke last year. He was a guy that played tackle, 716 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: played guard, played right tackle, played center, and now he's 717 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: the starting center for the Tampa Bay Bucks. A lot 718 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: of people compare him to a former Bison and Cody 719 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: Match who's also with the Tampa Big Buccaneers and starting 720 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: yet guard, because when he came out at the Senior Bowl, 721 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: he was a left tackle and then played all five 722 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: positions as well. So he's a guy that was at 723 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: a smaller school that showed that the uptick and competition 724 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna deter him or slow him down. Another guy, 725 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: Mike Green, who I love. I mean, I've been the 726 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: biggest Mike Green fan. I was blessed to call one 727 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: of his games this past year. He's a dude. I'm 728 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: The biggest question with him everybody was concerned about was wait, 729 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: because I think sometime in the Springy waighted like two 730 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: thirty five, and I kept telling everybody I interviewed this dude, 731 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: he was looking eye to eye with me, there's no 732 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: way he's two thirty five. Boy waited in at two 733 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: fifty one of the Senior Bowl and ran through Josh 734 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 2: Cornley there who's gonna probably be a first round tackle 735 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: from Oregon. And after two days of practice, he did 736 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: everything he needed to do and he left mobile. So 737 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: he's the guy that people were talking about the back 738 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: of the first people were saying top ten now for 739 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: my gree and he might be edge guy number two 740 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: in this draft class. They don't. They don't, and special 741 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: ones like him who work at it, who set up 742 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: their moves like chess players. He has a game that's 743 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: kind of like a lot too as well. He has 744 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: a bevy of pass rush moves. It starts with speed 745 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: to power, but after that he will put you in 746 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 2: the blend with a counter club with a chop club 747 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: on the edge. He's a guy that has really grown 748 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: his game the last two years at Marshall. 749 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: Hey man, enjoy your travels coming up, and then I'll 750 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: see an American's heart leant Oh 751 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to get to Endy