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Speaker 1: A couple of things going on this hour. I've actually

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Speaker 1: Rondi in the car Doctor. Five five zero nine nine

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Speaker 1: So um try to find that a Hugo dealer. Now

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00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: they went the way of Joe is Suzu and Suzo.

428
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: That's a whole another story. So what's going on today,

429
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: my brother? Well, for I wanted to make a comment

430
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: on something that you spoke about last week. You're talking

431
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: about your friend Tim who's putting together a an old

432
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: Corvette and how all the new young kids in the

433
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: shop are, you know, not paying any attention to it,

434
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: and how when you were a kid you would be

435
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: all over that and everything you put about the vehicle.

436
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: And I think it's there's a lot about where we

437
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: are today just in general, you know, because people don't

438
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: or younger folks and I'm not trying to be an

439
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: old guy looking back on that. They don't want to

440
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: know how things work. They just want to know that

441
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: it works. You know, you think about apps on the phone.

442
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: The app doesn't work, what do you do? You delete

443
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: the app and you reinstall it. You don't see what's

444
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: going on. You're not looking at code, you're not looking

445
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: at dus. When you're take an S A T test,

446
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: you can use a calculator. You don't have to know

447
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: why the math works. You just have to know what

448
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: the math is. And it doesn't make a lot of sense.

449
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: And and it's the same thing with cars. And it's

450
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: really really kind of sad that way. It is like,

451
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, some of the things that I never thought

452
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: would happen in my lifetime are happening. And you know,

453
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: if I could look back, if I could reach back

454
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: and make some corrections, boy I, it would just be

455
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: a very different world for me. But um I I

456
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: agree with you. The kids today need to be more

457
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: curious because somewhere along the way, and maybe not in

458
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: my lifetime, but somewhere along the way, the lack of

459
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: curiosity is going to come back to bite us. And

460
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and say, so, what's your question,

461
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: cal Well, here's this I we were talking about my

462
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen super Legacy. It's coming up on three years,

463
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: but only twenty miles. You told me some of the

464
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: things to get done to it, which I'm going to

465
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: be doing this week. I talked to my service guy,

466
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 1: the service writer at at the dealership, and the dealership

467
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: is really good and he's really a good guy, and

468
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything that we talked about. But I

469
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: had a question about the transmission fluid because when I

470
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: mentioned that to him, this is what he said. And

471
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: we both knew he was going to say. And he says,

472
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: Super says, you don't need to change the transmission fluid

473
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: at all, And I said, that makes sense. He goes,

474
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: but they do say, if you tell a trailer, you're

475
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: changing the twenty four thousand miles, so obviously there's something

476
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: going on there. I said, that does make sense. He said,

477
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: this is what I would do. You're not changed tolling

478
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: a trailer, he says, I would do two things. For

479
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: this reason, I had hold off on the transmission fluid.

480
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: I'd wait till him since Suber says twenty four thousand

481
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: miles and you're not telling a trailer. Wait till you're

482
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Speaker 1: at out forty eight thousand miles and that's when I

483
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: would exchange the transmission fluid. He goes, Until then, don't

484
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: worry about it because the dealership, and this dealership is

485
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: a very well known dealership, the best super dealership in

486
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: the state, that well known, has been selling its own

487
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: after and it comes with the car automatically and after

488
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: market service warranty that's very very good. And if you

489
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: get the car service for them, they even waves is

490
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: deductible and it's company that's been doing it's been in

491
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: business forever. He said, if your transmission goes and you

492
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: have your service records, which I do, we're going to

493
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: replace the transmission for you no charge. So why spend

494
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: the money now, especially when Subaru was saying that and

495
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: your car should be in good shape. Now, I'm not

496
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: trying to be a cheap son of a gun um.

497
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: You know. I'll spend a three or five now if

498
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: it's absolutely necessary. But I'm also a little frugal, not cheap,

499
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: but frugal well, And I think you want to be

500
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: exact too, And I agree with what you're saying, right,

501
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I wanted to know if it

502
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: made sense to you because the Car Doctor, after all,

503
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: is about logic and decision making that happens to be

504
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: about cars. It's not necessarily event well, and I appreciate that, Mike,

505
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: I do um and we we've had a lot of conversations,

506
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: both on air and all fair about things like this.

507
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: I I think one of the things that comes to

508
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: my mind is and I was aware of the trailer

509
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: toe option, and I like the fact that he's doubling it.

510
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: But in listening to you tell the story, I'm thinking

511
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: about it from a front way. So Subaru has a

512
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: concerned about heat, which I do to heat and transmission fluid.

513
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: Time of Memorial have always been you know, the death belt.

514
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: It's and I'm wondering, so maybe not in Maine. Maybe

515
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen in Maine. So I think in your case,

516
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: forty eight thousand miles, you're okay. But what if you're

517
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: down and you're driving around the Washington D C. Beltway

518
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: and you're you're sitting in traffic every morning trying to

519
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: get to the trying to get to the Capitol, or

520
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: trying to get around the Washington D C Beltway to

521
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: drive the Florida and you're driving through a high heat,

522
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: high humidity state and you're always overworking the trans and

523
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: always you know, you're you're hard on it. I mean,

524
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: let's face it, heats the death bell. So you know,

525
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: does that mean the trans fluid is more susceptible to

526
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: fail in cars in Florida, Washington d C Beltway, Arizona,

527
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: New Mexico where it's a hundred and thirteen degrees in

528
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: the shade and in October um. You know, so I

529
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: would definitely stay by forty eight and I don't have

530
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: a problem with that. Unfortunately, you're backed up by a

531
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: warrant team where your vehicle is. I think, yeah, maybe

532
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: that is overkill. But You've brought up an interesting point

533
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to think about and do a

534
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: little reading to see. You know, our vehicles in high

535
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: heat states Florida, the South, southern California, Texas, you know,

536
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: are subarus having a higher degree of transmission failure? Or

537
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if they have different service recommendations by region

538
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: based upon that heat issue and based on the transmission itself.

539
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've always said auto repairs divided up into

540
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: seven or eight different regions around the country, and here's

541
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: a case where I have to think about that again

542
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe it doesn't hurt to change that

543
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: trans fluid a little bit early, because supers ultimate answer

544
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: is never change it. You know, it's it's it's that

545
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: that that that's nuts. I think that's um, that's just crazy.

546
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: So all right, brother, well listen, I would wait till

547
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: forty eight and uh, let's see where it goes from there.

548
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: And there's always a pleasure to hear from you. Thank

549
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: you very much. Have a great day, Michael. You take

550
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: good care morning, any and the car doctor will be

551
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: back right after this. Hey, welcome back on the car Doc.

552
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Phil new Hampshire, Grand Cherokee.

553
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: Figure out with the car doctor. Sure, how can I help? Yeah, Hi, Ron,

554
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm just having a problem with their grant two thousand

555
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: and twelve, Grand Cherokee. Uh, as I explained, we had

556
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: the transfer case, had a trouble with the transfer case

557
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: and was replaced on our way up from Florida. That

558
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: was the beginning of April, and ever since then, I've

559
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: never experienced this before. We would shift out of park

560
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: into the reverse or drive, and probably about six of

561
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: the time I'm too prepared, so we'd uh, it would

562
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: be in neutral for about three to six seconds before

563
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: it would actually shift into gear. Uh. That's the only

564
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: thing I've been experiencing driving high speed, driving slow speed,

565
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: everything seems to shift. Okay, it's just this intermittent again

566
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: at least is delay a better way to say that, Phil, Yes,

567
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: the delay, but it was it is out of park.

568
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: It's it's actually neutral because I've had it actually rolled

569
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: a little bit to experience that. So, so your issue

570
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: as you were driving home from Florida and the transfer

571
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: case started making noise. Actually before we started the trip,

572
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: there was there was a clicking noise which sounded like

573
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: an electrical like a sole annoyed or something. I probably

574
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: should have checked it out before we left, but it

575
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: was just started like a day before, and I forgot

576
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: to take my chances. But then then we did experience

577
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: some problems on the highway and we're able to cripple

578
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: up to where we were going to stay overnight. And

579
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm a jeep dealer who would take it in the

580
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: next day? And what did the jeep and the jeep

581
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: dealer replaced the transfer case or they overa yeah, yeah,

582
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: they they you know, kind of the paperwork. But they

583
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: said they inspected the vehicle on the chain and actuator

584
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: was going out in the transfer box and U did

585
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: not going away unless they unplugged both the chain and actuator.

586
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Coming to the conclusion that it was the transfer case

587
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: and replaced the transfer case two grand later. That is

588
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: the noise gone. Now, yeah, a little bit more that noise. Yes,

589
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: So it did disappear, and it we drove with the

590
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: remain remainder of the trip home and had no problems.

591
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: So it was and it was. It was okay the

592
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: remainder of the trip home. Yes, except except for this,

593
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: except for experiencing this delay when I would parked the

594
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: car sometimes and go into reverse their park, I mean,

595
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: excuse me reverse their drive. Is that delay? Has that

596
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: been there since the transfer case replacement or was it

597
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: a short time after? It was the experience relatively right

598
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: right after we we left the Jeep dealer and started

599
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: our trip home and experienced it. Uh. I want to say, yeah,

600
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: I experienced it in the first Here's what I want

601
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: you to do, Phil. You got a Jeep dealer by you, yes,

602
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: And I have had it in there and they have

603
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: not experienced it, but they haven't had the transfer case

604
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: UM and transmission stuff done. They don't find any codes.

605
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: They said they didn't experience it themselves. But I find

606
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: it hard to believe unless they're not misinterpreting what I'm telling. Right,

607
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Phil, don't don't don't go anywhere.

608
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take this. Plus, we're not

609
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: up against the clock. I'll running any of the car.

610
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Doctor will be right back, right right. If this don't

611
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: go away, welcome back, doctor. Let's get right into it. Phil,

612
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: you're still there, Yes, I am. So. I got a

613
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: couple of questions for you. Is this full time four

614
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: wheel drive? Um? That's what they indicate. Yes, so, so

615
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing for you to shift. You You put

616
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: this vehicle and drive and it decides what it wants

617
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: to do, whether it's two wheel, four wheel or free

618
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: wheels as it cease fit. There's no there's there's no

619
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: extra work for you to do UM in this application. Okay,

620
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk to you about the what ifs

621
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: and what makes sense. Forget that you had the transfer

622
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: case service, all right, Although that's that's that's an important

623
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: thing to keep in the back of our minds. When

624
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: the jeep dealer did service the transfer case or whatever

625
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: they did, what did they do? Was it a rebuild?

626
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Was it a factory exchange unit? Uh? I think it was.

627
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: It was a well, I don't know whether it was

628
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: a rebuild or not. It did come They had to

629
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: get it in from Atlanta, so it came from the warehouse,

630
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: and assuming it was a brand new, right, So that's

631
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm thinking, all right. So you know

632
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: my questions are, if if that is a failure, Well,

633
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: I've got a couple here. If if that is a failure,

634
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: obviously it's under warranty, isn't it. Um? I would think

635
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: the job is under warranty and the jeep is not

636
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: under warrant. Right, but but but but repair is all right? Now?

637
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: They you know, they did indicate the transfer cases behind

638
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: the transmission, right, have anything to do with the shifting right. Well,

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Speaker 1: And and my other question is, so every time you

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Speaker 1: shift this, do you get the delay again? About fifty

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Speaker 1: the time I do it? Okay, Um, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: out on a rope here and and and stick my

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Speaker 1: neck out. I know of no scenario with that transfer

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00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: case where it's going to be intermittent. It's pretty mechanical

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: inside there, all right. It either works or it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: all right, and I'd be even more shocked. Uh you know, Listen,

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00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Chrysler and Geep have their issues, but usually the stuff

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00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: coming out of the box either works or it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen too many intermittence on the drive train stuff.

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Speaker 1: They take a great deal of time and precision to

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Speaker 1: rebuild those things. So what I'm faking is and I'd

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Speaker 1: love to see this get duplicated. I'm I'm thinking not

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Speaker 1: to give you the bad news, but it almost sounds

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00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: like you've got a delayed engagement of the transmission itself,

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Speaker 1: and the fault is in the trans and you know,

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Speaker 1: hooking up a scan tool for more than just codes,

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Speaker 1: looking at data stream to see, you know, what's working

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Speaker 1: and not working, and when does it pick up signal

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00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: in the output speed sensor some of the other things

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Speaker 1: I've got in the back of my head. I think

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Speaker 1: you gotta go back to that Jeep dealer and ask him, Hey, listen,

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00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: I know this is what it does. If I leave

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Speaker 1: it with you for a couple of days, can you

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Speaker 1: let a tech drive it home? If you're comfortable with that,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and I think you're gonna find that

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Speaker 1: this fault is in the trans The only other thing

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00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: I could think of doing is draining the transfer case

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Speaker 1: fluid and catching it through a you know, a pain strainer.

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Speaker 1: And I've done that. If that transfer case, and think

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Speaker 1: about it, If that transfer case has some sort of

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Speaker 1: mechanical fault going on, fairly new like that, you would

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Speaker 1: think you'd see some kind of greater compounds, some kind

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Speaker 1: of debris is gonna come out of that transfer case

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Speaker 1: and show, yes, something mechanical is failing. Let me know

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Speaker 1: what you end up doing. Phil, I'm on an Indian

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Speaker 1: the car doctor. If the mechanics aren't expensive, they're price

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Speaker 1: Let's see it.