WEBVTT - Conversations with Cody Rigsby 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:07.600 This is Conversations with Olivia Jade and I Heart Radio podcast. Oh, 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:15.160 we're really jumping right into this. Hi, how are you well? First, Hi, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.160 miss you. I know it's been on. I mean it's 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.520 almost been a year since we started this. The Dancing 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.279 with the Stars process hasn't been almost a year, Yeah, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.960 it has, because I remember I remember Labor Day, like 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:28.800 right before Labor Day was like my last for I 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.360 was like, this is the last party, this is the 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.680 last moment, like it's time to hit it. Yeah, you're 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.640 actually so right, because I remember coming back from like 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.280 summer vacation basically and starting right away. That's insane. Well, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.560 I didn't even do an intro. We got thrown into 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.360 this right away. I have Cody Riggsby on my podcast today. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.000 He is one of my favorite people. We were on 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.880 Dancing with the Stars together, and if you guys don't 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.080 know who he is, I'm gonna let him give his 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.040 own introduction so you can really make it perfect. Take 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.880 it away. Oh wow, Like you know, when you're like 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.440 doing an intro of yourself, it's like it's like shouting 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.160 your resume and it is a little narcissistic. But listen, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.720 I worked hard So, my friends, I'm I'm Cody Riggsby, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.720 former Dancing with the Stars contestant and uh Peloton instructor 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.760 for over eight years now. And maybe you've seen some 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.160 of my videos clipped on TikTok for a nice uh 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.720 laugh a little l O L here and there, um, 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.959 and I'm excited to be here and reunited with the 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:33.319 beautiful Olivia Jan. I'm so happy you're here. What have 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.800 you been up to recently? Like, what's the last year 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.280 that you that I haven't really seen you? What's it 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.039 had in store? Um? A lot, you know, Like I 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.119 left Dancing with the Stars and I took a little 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.200 time for myself on the holidays, but then it was 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.600 just like a lot of work being brand deals or 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:56.600 stuff at Peloton, um pr stuff like that. I'm working 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.600 on some stuff this summer that I can't necessarily talk 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:04.760 about right now. But like when people do that, a 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.160 bitch can't like hurt a contract or like gout a 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.000 contract that's coming up. I know. I hating like that. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.360 I also hate when people are like just wait, I 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.480 have this coming on, or like you guys can't handle 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:20.080 what I'm about to do. I'm just like okay, but 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:25.680 you know what, Honestly, um, this summer, I've been really 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.639 just kind of focusing on myself. I think I came 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.040 to a moment where I was like, all right, work 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.960 is great, and I love working and I love building 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.480 whatever I'm building here. But for a very long time, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.639 probably like two or three years, I've been so focused 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:43.440 on work that I've taken I've kind of lost a 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.200 little bit of myself. So I think for the past 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.639 like three months, I've really been focused on healing and 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.760 like find doing things that nourish me, even if that 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.960 means like not chasing a dollar. If that makes right, Okay, 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.000 I wanna I want to come back to that because 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.120 I think that's an important conversation, but just to kind 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.000 of kick off the episode, I kind of want to 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.680 hear about like where you're from, how you got started. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.480 I know that you were a background answer before Peloton, 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.840 and can you just explain a little bit about like 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.079 how you even got into this space, how you started 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.040 with Peloton, and like kind of if somebody was listening 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.520 and they want to have a similar trajectory or like 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.040 a similar career path, how somebody that's not in that 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.440 position to do so, could I mean, that's a that's 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.640 a great, a great question, and I'll kind of get 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.560 into my story of it. And I think I think 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.200 the more before I even tell the story. I think 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.640 the moral of the story is a lot of success. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.120 Sometimes it's just being at the right place at the 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.800 right time. But you've got to make sure that you're 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.400 the right person that's going to be at the right 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.240 place at the right time. So if you're not like 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.960 prepared for an opportunity that's going to hit you in 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.960 the face, uh, you might not get that opportunity. So 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.240 I think it's always good to be doing the work, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.280 even if you don't know what's next. So that's kind 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.960 of a moral story or where where I hit it. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.200 But you know, I was born in Los Angeles. I 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.000 lived there until I was about eight. Me and my 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.800 mom and like three cats and two dogs packed into 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.760 a Chrysler and like moved across the country in the 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.440 nineties and we settled into Greensboro, North Carolina, where I 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.440 grew up from eight to twenty two. Um, in like 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.320 high school and college, I was very much like into 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:26.320 musical theater. But um, I was like a really good 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.120 dancer on my own. So a friend told me to 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.839 go um intern at Broadway Dance Center here in New York. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.720 So I did that the summer of my freshman year 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.720 of college, and that's where I really fell in love 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:41.880 with New York City. And I honestly this I got 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.279 to express myself as a gay man, and I knew 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.240 that I wanted to, like really come to this city 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.839 and be able to live the life that I wanted to. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.159 So through college, my focus was always to come to 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.560 New York. So I moved to New York in two 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.279 thousand nine. I've been here thirteen years. I can't believe it. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.000 UM and I started kind of just doing a bunch 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.680 of odd end jobs. I worked in fashion, I worked 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.599 in I worked at restaurants, I worked retail. I was 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.960 just really doing anything to make a buck. And then 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.599 I kind of I got into the commercial dance world 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.680 for about five years, where I got to do some 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.919 really cool stuff. I dance for Katy Perry and Humanna 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.479 do SNL like. I love that. I loved that because 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.800 it had so much passion. But I think I was 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.120 missing was purpose and in all honesty, when you're a 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.919 backup dancer, you're kind of doing You're doing things to 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.880 elevate another person. You're doing things to make other people 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.640 look great, and you're not really creating a foundation for yourself. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.760 So I became kind of unhappy and didn't really have purpose. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.920 And one, you know, one summer, I was like, all right, 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.960 I'm gonna like pump the brakes on the dance world. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.320 I'm gonna manifest that something great is gonna come. I 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.839 don't know what it's gonna be, but honestly, I'm just 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.400 gonna put my head down do a but like too 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.599 many odd end jobs as I can to make a 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.039 dollar and find financial stability. And honestly, like six months later, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:02.000 Peloton landed in my lap. Um. How Yeah, I was 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.640 working at this club called The Box. I'm sure you do, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.720 and it has a very like risk Abe or Less show, 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.160 But I wasn't actually dancing in it. Um. I was 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.640 just working in front of the house, helping the bottle 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.920 service girls at night. And the chore the choreographer of 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.640 that show knew I was a dancer and he had 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.720 a connection to Peloton, and so he was like, Hey, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.440 this company, this like startup is looking for, you know, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.800 people that are into fitness, and I kind of gotten 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.400 I got into fitness to book dance shops because you 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.080 gotta look a certain way. And I was an entertainer 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.080 and that's what they were looking for. So I sent 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.920 my head shot in resume and I got an email 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.560 back and went in for an interview and I got 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.719 the job, and I was I was really lucky because 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.120 it was a new company. They were they were figuring 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.800 themselves out. I kind of had the ability to fake 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.080 it till I make it, you know. They were just like, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.279 here's this cute boy, and he's fun and fun and 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.680 has a personality, so like, let's give him a shot. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.520 And I was really lucky that I started Pelton at 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.520 kind of in the infancy because I got to really 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.000 make a lot of mistakes. I got to figure myself out. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.520 I got to um observe and watch some really fierce 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:16.600 people like Robin Urson, like Jess king Um and kind 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.760 of just absorb their fierceness and how they discovered themselves. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.840 And for a while, I feel like I was trying 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.880 to be robbing and I'm not robbing. I'm not an 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.880 ultramarathon r. I'm not a bad asspictch like she is, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.760 Like I'm just I'm not her and so I think 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.080 once I started to embrace who I was and let 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.520 that shine in my classes, people started to resonate with 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.480 that and connect with that. And I'm glad I had 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.760 that period of time to like not know what I 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.800 was doing, so that, you know, when the pandemic hit 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.120 and Peloton blew up, I was ready. I was ready 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.960 for prime time and I knew who I was and 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.040 I knew what my classes were, and that's kind of 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.560 where I was able to connect with people throughout the pandemic. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.920 And so that goes back to the world story, like 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.680 kind of two occasions where it's like the right place, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.000 the right time, but be the right person, right. So 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.040 was the long winded answer, was that what you were 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.480 looking Yeah, That's exactly what I was looking for. I 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.280 loved it. It was perfect. Um, So when you would 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.520 say that, would you say that because of the pandemic? 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:22.280 That's where you're like, I'm just so curious how somebody 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:26.000 that's a Peloton instructor can just absolutely blow up on 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.640 social media then go on Dancing with the stars, Like 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.800 how the hell did that happen? Like how did you 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.120 get such a following? Like obviously I know you and 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.520 your personality is infectious. But how did so many strangers 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.240 that get forty five minutes of your time on a 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.439 bike or however long it is, Like, how did that translate? Yeah? 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.360 I always like pinched myself like I got so lucky, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.880 like I won the lottery. When it comes to a job, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.840 A profession that keeps me rooted in purpose, allows me 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.079 to help other people, allowed me to like really discover 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.880 myself and my best self. Um, you know, I think 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.599 I think there's the stereotype of a fitness instructor and 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.200 they're always like super high energy and always super positive, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:06.840 and they have everything figured out and they have this 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:13.040 perfect body, and that's sometimes not relatable. And I could 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.960 I I would watch other instructors, not a peloton, but 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.839 just other instructors in the industry, and I kind of 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.520 like cringe or be like, oh, you're being so kind 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:24.920 of fake. And so I just treated every class like 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.040 I was in a in a I was on a 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.520 zoom call, or in a room full of like my besties, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.920 and like we're shooting and I'm going to talk about, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.319 you know, messy stories in my life. I'm gonna talk 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.240 about nostalgic things about songs, I and just going to 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.480 like be an open book. And I think people really 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:53.000 connect and relate to just someone who's you know, pushing them, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.600 but also showing their messiness and showing who they are. Um, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.760 I think when we try to be perfect, it's boring 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.680 when we show our messiness, our flaws are you know, 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.320 I don't want to say stupidity, but like we're all 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.360 kind of stupid. So like when I can make fun 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.079 of myself when I'm stupid, like people relate to that 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.040 and we'll connect to that. And that's also like my purpose. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.800 Like fitness is a scary space if you're starting fitness, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.920 if you're starting something new, you can feel intimidated because 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.920 you don't want to look them. And I purposely kind 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.000 of get on the bike and active, fool and act 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.000 um so people are not scared to try something new. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.600 I actually was having a conversation with a friend recently 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.920 just about how like just if you're in any sort 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.520 of I think media space, or you're like a public 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.120 figure of any kind, how important it is to be 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.400 relatable and with these like I think recently on my podcast, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.360 with the guests I've had on I've tried to like 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.920 maybe teach the listeners something, not me personally, but the 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.839 person I'm interviewing. Would you say that you have like 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.760 one thing? Because if someone were to ask me, like, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.280 what would you say, Like you're an expert in I 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.240 don't actually mean like expert literally, but I would say, like, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.719 the thing that I probably know most about and can 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.719 talk most about confidently would be like makeup and skincare. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:29.800 What would yours be? That's interesting if you have one? No, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.599 I think it's a little obscure. I think I'm I 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:38.040 think I'm an expert at loving myself and allowing myself 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:43.000 to be who I am, um, and that means accepting 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.760 accepting who I am. I think for a long time, 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.400 in multiple stages of my life, I tried to change 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.760 or omit parts of me and that wasn't fully loving 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.319 myself or or honestly so, I think loving myself and 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.240 doing it in such a radical public facing way is 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.720 what I'm an expert at. And I hope to inspire 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.040 people to love themselves radically and to accept themselves and 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.559 to express themselves as radically as they can with no apoli. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.760 And that that includes the flaws, That includes the stuff 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.719 that we don't like about ourselves. How did you get 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.840 to a place of loving your flaws then, because I 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.040 think that's something I mean, I struggle with that. I'm 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.240 sure so many people listening struggle with that of just 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.040 like wholeheartedly. Because I think I can sit here and 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.960 be like, yeah, I love myself, I'm proud of myself, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.880 like whatever, But there are so many times and moments 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.520 in my day where I'm just sitting there like just 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.360 to be really real, like I'm just so hard on myself. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.960 If I'm filming, if I'm filming a YouTube video and 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.280 I have if I'm if I'm positioned a certain way, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.800 if I feel like, oh that angle must look bad. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.280 I haven't even seen it yet, just in my head, 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.839 just constant like that's probably bad. It ruins my day. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.160 And then I'm like in a constant like I hate 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.319 myself this day, Like why did I even try? Like 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.800 how did you get to a point where you're just like, Okay, 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.720 even if it is a flaw or something that I'm not, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:05.440 we're proud of because it's me. Yeah, it's It's definitely 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.320 been a big process. I think also think about the 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.719 world that we live in. Everything is super curated, everything 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:17.199 is position perfectly. We're constantly consuming social media or news 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.360 or TV or film or magazines, and it's always this 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.240 perfectly curated thing. So of course in our head we're 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.720 constantly aware of these things and we're constantly judging ourselves. Um, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.120 for me, I think what really started my journey was 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.120 probably six years ago, going through a really hard breakup 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:41.160 and that feeling of having what they call like the 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.400 rug pulled underneath you, where you literally fall on your face, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:51.400 you fall down, and it is it's not worth it 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.600 to stand back up and be the same person that 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.679 you were when you fell down. Oh I love that. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.680 It's not it's you're not. There's things that happen in life, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:09.720 like breakups, like grief, like disappointment, like failure that can 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:15.520 really bring us down, and we have to be aware 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:21.280 that those moments are teachable lessons and those are moments 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.240 to be grateful for because that is the opportunity, that's 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:29.560 the door opening to you becoming an evolved, a more 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.600 evolved version of yourself, a new version of yourself. And 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.200 so that moment for me was like laying the foundation 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.120 for the next evolution of who Cody was, and I 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.520 really leaned into like a meditation and mindfulness practice. So 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.560 that allowed me to really observe my thoughts and just 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.480 see them as thoughts instead of letting those thoughts run wild, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.560 instead letting them pass and not getting so attached to 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.240 them and that I know that's like a little obscure 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.480 and a little bit like but that's the whole practice 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.240 of meditation, right, yeah, yeah, And that was really powerful 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.960 for me, um, And that kind of really started my 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.880 journey of like self love. And so then you develop 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.280 you kind of developed that school of allowing the thoughts 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.720 to pass. But then you start to be aware of 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.080 who you are and the things that you do, and 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.040 then you can't help but laugh at yourself. You can't 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.160 help but laugh at the same repetitive thought or the 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.920 or the same action that you're doing, and you're like, wait, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.880 why are you doing that? Like you you said you 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.280 want to stop that. So, like you can get frustrated 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:35.600 with it, you can get mad at it, or you 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.000 can kind of laugh at it and treat yourself a 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:43.280 little bit a little bit of kindness and love. Um. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.120 And so I think it's just like building that that. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.240 I think it's building that relationship with yourself and making 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.360 time within your day that you are developing a relationship 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.080 with yourself, which is really hard, really hard in the practice, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:04.080 but also like you know, it's it's yeah, no, but 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.720 that's great advice. I also feel like I just resonate 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.080 a lot with what you say about, like how we're 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.239 in a world where we see such a curated perspective 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.520 and that can make it a little bit more challenging 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.080 to be easy on yourself and forgive yourself for certain 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.600 things because you see everybody else what seems to be 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.600 a perfect life and I'm sure some people see us 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.000 online and think like wow, that like success and that's 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.280 great and whatever. And it's like, also, we can probably 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.440 both just sit here in a test that we've gone 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.480 through in our heads as well. Yeah, you gotta have 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.400 a little bit of grace. Like grace is a thing 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.320 that I'm I'm really focused on right now. Is you 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.280 kind of you only know what you know at the moment, 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.479 and so you've got yourself the grace and forgiveness of 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.360 the mistakes that you made that you make and try 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.120 to do better. But yeah, let's just laugh at like 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.840 Instagram is not real, TikTok is not real. News is 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.040 not real um, and then laugh at ourselves when we're 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.800 trying to fit in that in that box, we're not 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.399 meant to fit in that box. So make a relationship 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.359 with yourself. Let's laugh at the world, and like also 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.640 laugh at ourselves so we're not taking it so seriously. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.880 I kind of love that too, because it's like, if 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.960 you are in a moment of sadness, if you can 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.240 think to that and be like, Okay, I still feel 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.480 like I'm gonna laugh at it right now. I think 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:27.240 you can genuinely convince your mind to think that, like 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.439 like at a certain point, it's literally fake it till 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.359 you make it where it's like at a certain point 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.080 you will start to find the things that you maybe 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.320 we're hard on yourself, like a little funny. So I'm 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.160 going to try that, Thank you so much. And also 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.560 it's also like giving yourself, giving yourself space to be 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.200 sad though like don't fight it, Like go be sad 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.199 for a little bit. If you're going through a break up, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:50.359 if you've lost your job, if you are having fights 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.600 with your friends, like okay, to be sad, like have 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.959 those moments, but after a while, you're gonna heal from it. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.080 You're going to grow from it. And then once those 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.600 kind of let's start to pop up more so Okay, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.679 like I'm gonna laugh at myself for like dwelling on 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.800 this a little bit too much, right, I love that. Okay, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.680 let's transition into Dancing with the Stars because obviously we 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.800 were both on the same season, season thirty. I honestly 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.600 feel like we had a great cast. Like it was 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:20.879 a great cast, yes, yeah, And I loved it because 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.560 even though it was a competition, like I think we 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.680 genuinely like we never wanted any anybody to go home. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.240 We wanted everyone to do their best, and it really 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:35.120 support group. Yeah, and like it was it was sad 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.840 when anybody went home. And also like we were the 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.200 only people that knew what was going on, and that 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.320 was just I look back and I'm like, wow, I 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.760 did that, like so crazy. I still think back to 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.800 it and I'm like, I was dancing on national TV 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.480 with zero dance experience. Who let me you had? Okay, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.120 you had zero dance experience, never danced before, not even 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.840 like a ballet. Asked like nothing nothing, you know, maybe 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.880 I took ballet when I was like one years old 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.560 and I ended out one and a half. But like, no, 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.720 not in any time I can remember in my life. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.520 I am so gagged by that because I was like, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:19.000 I think this girl is lying, like I know more 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:25.080 dance than she is giving away because I love dancing though, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.080 Like I remember growing up like around my family and stuff, 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.120 and we'd play like music in the kitchen at night 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.040 and I'd be dancing around the kitchen with my dad. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.280 But like that's as far as my dance experience. But 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.120 sometimes it is better to like, like, for me, ballroom 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.320 was hard because I danced in such different ways that 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.040 it felt so foreign. So maybe being so fresh and 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.280 no experience it was almost better because you could just 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.760 absorb it and like move into it totally. That's kind 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.359 of what I was talking to Amanda Clutes about when 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.040 I had her on the podcast a while back. I 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.159 was like, really, was it tough for you because you 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.159 had a lot of dance experience. She was like, it 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.920 was harder because like I had to learn, like this 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.520 a completely new thing from something that I already kind 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.560 of knew before. Yeah. Well she all always looked flawless too, 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:15.000 So Lade absolutely slate everybody slate. Everybody was so good. Um, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.399 How did you get the offer? Who called you? Was 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.679 it like, did somebody reach out directly? Was it a 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.760 d M? Did it go through your team and did 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:28.320 you say yes right away? Um? It went through my team, 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.640 And it was something that we've been talking about kind 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.119 of all summer. We're like, hey, I've been kind of pitching. 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:35.960 My agent was kind of like pitching me for it, 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.080 but like Jamesmen Stars, wasn't like completely on board, but 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.040 like it was kind of always happening, And honestly, I 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.400 don't even remember getting that. I think I didn't really 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.280 get the final offer, like Okay, this is happening until 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.280 like mid August, so maybe three or four weeks before 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.680 the show was actually happening. I think. So. I think 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.840 that's how it was, because I remember having conversations about 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.639 it probably in June of last year and be like, Okay, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.400 that's cool, and then by the time August got around, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.320 I was like, okay, I'm giving I'm kind of just 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.680 like I'm assuming that it's not happening. Um, And then 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.120 it happened, and there was kind of a few days 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.359 where I was like, am I sure I want to 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.040 do this? Because the thought of it really really created 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.920 a lot of anxiety in me. I was like, that's 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.360 gonna be so new and so challenging and so different. 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.240