Speaker 1: The second date of date. Occasionally, we'll have listeners who've
Speaker 1: come up with unique strategies for their dates to try
Speaker 1: and make them go well. Oh yeah, for sure. You know,
Speaker 1: like some people of guidelines about how to split the
Speaker 1: bill before they even get dinner. Yeah. Others have a
Speaker 1: policy of waiting a certain amount of time before they
Speaker 1: do the first kiss. Yeah, respect everyone's rule. I remember
Speaker 1: one person said that they try to get the kiss
Speaker 1: out of the way in the first ten seconds so
Speaker 1: it's not looming over their head the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: Once kissed the girl from the first ten minutes of
Speaker 1: our date, and it was one of the best dates ever. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean we didn't end up. I wouldn't recommend it
Speaker 1: for anybody. Different strokes for different folks. And our man
Speaker 1: Justin today says he has an interesting strategy for picking
Speaker 1: the right girl. I can't wait to hear it. Justin Man,
Speaker 1: how you doing well? Are you guys doing good? You
Speaker 1: want to kiss right now? So the rest of this
Speaker 1: call isn't quite as awkward. We might as well as
Speaker 1: give out some chemists, like, we don't even need to
Speaker 1: call this girl, but just in case, what is the
Speaker 1: name of the girl? You want us to call. Her
Speaker 1: name is Casey, Casey. How did you meet Casey? I
Speaker 1: met Casey on Tinder. Usually I'm not a big fan
Speaker 1: of Tinder, but I felt like I had a pretty
Speaker 1: good rapport with her on there. I just want you
Speaker 1: guys to know that I have a lot of experience
Speaker 1: dating over the years. I can tell just from that,
Speaker 1: just from that kiss, that you've been around the block names.
Speaker 1: I mean, that could be that can honestly be a
Speaker 1: good thing or a bad thing. And it can mean
Speaker 1: you're either always single and can't quite get into a relationship.
Speaker 1: That's situation. Or it can mean that you're successful. You
Speaker 1: can get the date, but you don't know how to
Speaker 1: have a relationship. Yeah, what have you learned from your experience?
Speaker 1: Justin throughout my twenties, I was that guy that tried
Speaker 1: to impress too much, Like I rented a fancy car
Speaker 1: for one year old, and I wore clothes that were
Speaker 1: too expensive and I took them to the restaurants that
Speaker 1: were way out of my budget and everything, and I
Speaker 1: realized over the years, yeah they might be pretty, but
Speaker 1: I'm attracting the worst type of human beings by doing
Speaker 1: this well, And also you're not letting the human being
Speaker 1: know who you really are. Like I mean, it's essentially lying.
Speaker 1: Yeah stuff. I mean Alexis would strongly disagree. I feel attacked. No,
Speaker 1: that's cool. So that was your old strategy. That was
Speaker 1: my old strategy. And then I had an epiphany about
Speaker 1: the time I hit thirty. Okay, what I do is
Speaker 1: instead of trying to overly impress them, I try to
Speaker 1: underimpress with I'm still a nice guy, but in terms
Speaker 1: of what we do, the activities that we do, because
Speaker 1: in my theory, if you can enjoy someone's company doing
Speaker 1: the most mundane things possible, then you know that that
Speaker 1: person likes you for you. I totally get somehow, I
Speaker 1: know I could see how it's a back fiek in
Speaker 1: between two guys. I'm gonna go to the fancy restaurant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that though most girls was. So I'm assuming
Speaker 1: that this is what you did with Casey. Yeah. We uh,
Speaker 1: we met on Tinder and we had a good rapport
Speaker 1: on Tinder, and I decided to go over to her
Speaker 1: neighborhood and we just went for a walk around her
Speaker 1: neighborhood about nothing fancy. Let's just see if we enjoy
Speaker 1: each other's company. I think that's kind of nice. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was. It was old school, but we're walking around
Speaker 1: her neighborhood and it's nice. And we decided let's go
Speaker 1: into the grocery store, very mundane, just walk the walk
Speaker 1: the aisles. I thought, let's get up the snack here,
Speaker 1: so I got her some maza for us to nibl on.
Speaker 1: I'm Jewish, you're talking language. Well I am, all right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Moza is a great snack food. By the way, you
Speaker 1: put some peanut butter on there. I've put some butter
Speaker 1: on it. It's really good, but by itself it has
Speaker 1: no it's very bland. Right. I thought, let's keep with
Speaker 1: the mundane. So you just ate plane crackers. Well, she
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, though she's a very goy im, very not Jewish,
Speaker 1: and said, well, I've never tried that before. So I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a good sign. She's willing to try new things. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So going into the grocery store and doing these things,
Speaker 1: did you tell her why you were doing that? Or
Speaker 1: is this kept on the download? Of course, kept on
Speaker 1: the download. I don't want her to know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I want to see how she's going to react, but
Speaker 1: she seemed to be going with it and seemed to
Speaker 1: be very spontaneous, and I enjoyed that. And when we
Speaker 1: were on our way out, she saw one of those
Speaker 1: old fashioned horses that you put the quarter into, and
Speaker 1: she thought, oh, that's fine. I haven't seen one of
Speaker 1: those in years. And I thought, nah, this might be
Speaker 1: getting a little bit too exciting, a little bit too interesting.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, it looks old. I
Speaker 1: don't want to break it or anything. And so she
Speaker 1: said okay, and we kept on a walk and any
Speaker 1: chance of fun squash she tried everywhere like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: seems dangerous. The horse can't take away my thunder. That's
Speaker 1: the way I look at it, as I don't think
Speaker 1: like any time that we've heard of people doing like
Speaker 1: it almost sounds like a test, like will she pass
Speaker 1: your boredom test or something like tests always backfire to
Speaker 1: me and dating well, I mean, I mean, she seemed
Speaker 1: like she was having a good time and she didn't
Speaker 1: get upset by it, and we kept our walk going,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting that when we were
Speaker 1: on our way close to where her places. Around the
Speaker 1: end of our walk, she sees a laundry. Match says, oh,
Speaker 1: this is actually where I dropped off my laundry earlier,
Speaker 1: and can we pick it up? And said, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: you're like, now you're speaking my language. That boring. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's very boring. But to me what stuck out is
Speaker 1: we just met each other. We don't really know each
Speaker 1: other that well, and you're comfortable with me seeing your laundry.
Speaker 1: That's a big sign to me that that comfortable with
Speaker 1: me saying or laundry. So how how did the date end?
Speaker 1: I felt like, I'm not you guys talking about the
Speaker 1: kiss getting out of the way. I didn't feel to
Speaker 1: go in for the kiss. I thought, let's keep it
Speaker 1: mundane for now anymore, and then thanks can protrest later.
Speaker 1: But it ended pretty nicely. We gave each other a hug,
Speaker 1: and I thought the date ended well. But I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to get ahold of her since, so I'm
Speaker 1: wondering what's going on. I get your theory that you
Speaker 1: want to find someone that you can do just everyday
Speaker 1: things with and enjoy their company. Like I get that theory,
Speaker 1: of course, but the whole point of dating this is
Speaker 1: supposed to be fun, Like you have your entire married
Speaker 1: life to be boring, like why waste it right now
Speaker 1: where he is? Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong, though,
Speaker 1: It's not like if I'm going to date someone long term,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to continue the boring this. It's just
Speaker 1: that first date just to get a gauge right from
Speaker 1: the beginning. OK. I get it. I don't like it,
Speaker 1: but I get it. I know what you love. Language
Speaker 1: is all right, man, Well let's try and figure this
Speaker 1: out for you. We're gonna play the most boring song
Speaker 1: in orientation and then we'll come back. We'll call Casey
Speaker 1: for you and try and get your second date update. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, guys. I appreciate it all right, hold on second.
Speaker 1: If you're just tuning in, this promises to be the
Speaker 1: most boring, mundane second date update and show history. We
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, not my opinion. That's actually how
Speaker 1: one of our listeners justin purposely planned his date because
Speaker 1: he has a strategy for finding the right woman and
Speaker 1: says he plans tame, unimaginative dates to see if they're
Speaker 1: actually compatible. It can still have fun even without an
Speaker 1: exciting activity to bond them. Yeah, so recently took a
Speaker 1: woman named. You see, on a long, boring walk, they
Speaker 1: bought some uninteresting groceries together, picked up her dull, stupid laundry,
Speaker 1: and ended with a humdrum, half hearted hug. And now
Speaker 1: she's not calling him back after that, Justin, do you
Speaker 1: have any guesses as to why, maybe you think she's
Speaker 1: been avoiding you. I don't know. I mean, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: she's nervous or something, but it was it was a
Speaker 1: good dage. I mean, she's really down to earth. And
Speaker 1: I guess here's the thing, Justin, if you liked her
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, or even in a
Speaker 1: text message later, did you say, Hey, let's just havelf
Speaker 1: in a little bit more fun next time, you know?
Speaker 1: Did you sell yourself a little bit? Like ah, I
Speaker 1: can be exciting too. And I didn't use those words,
Speaker 1: but I basically said, let's do this again sometime, not
Speaker 1: this again, so let's spend some time together again, Let's
Speaker 1: go to a different grocery store, maybe a farmer's do
Speaker 1: this again sometime is not going to be the answer, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not the invitation guessing that she wanted, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I contacted you, guys. Maybe you guys
Speaker 1: can help me out. Okay, all right, Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: give it our best shot. Let's call Casey's number and
Speaker 1: we'll see what she has to say. You're ready, I am, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dial it right now. Here we go. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for Casey. Yeah, who was looking for Casey?
Speaker 1: I am looking for Casey. Hi. Well, the whole show
Speaker 1: Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning is looking for Casey.
Speaker 1: There you go. Well, what what? We're a radio show.
Speaker 1: We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we've
Speaker 1: been trying I know who you are. Oh, you so
Speaker 1: little nervous. It's okay. We're doing something you may have
Speaker 1: heard of before called a second date update. That's where
Speaker 1: if you go out with one and afterwards, if that
Speaker 1: person isn't calling you back, you can email us to
Speaker 1: reach out to them for you and help you figure
Speaker 1: out the reason why. Got it kind of an exciting
Speaker 1: thing to be part of. It's pretty thrilling matters you
Speaker 1: don't know what is going on. Well, the person that
Speaker 1: emailed us about you, his name's Justin. You remember him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You do? I mean, because it sounds like it was
Speaker 1: kind of a forgettable day. Well, I don't know. Let's
Speaker 1: ask Kurt. He told us about what you guys did together.
Speaker 1: But Casey, would you say it was more of an
Speaker 1: exciting date, more normal or kind of a boring date?
Speaker 1: I would say it was like blah, really okay, one
Speaker 1: step lower? Okay, Yeah, it wasn't the worst. It was okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: Which part is it's okay? Things can exist it Which
Speaker 1: part of the date was the most blockade to you?
Speaker 1: The most blockade part of the date would probably have
Speaker 1: to be Justin himself. Oh yeah, is it Justin that though?
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I don't. I expected you guys to
Speaker 1: have good conversation. I mean, that's the way he described it,
Speaker 1: is that even though you were doing maybe not the
Speaker 1: most exciting things in the world, that you seem to
Speaker 1: really connect. Well that's an understatement. But oh how did
Speaker 1: you feel about him? Uh? I don't think he has
Speaker 1: the capacity to have fun. Oh well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should be saying anything about this right now.
Speaker 1: But Casey, what if Justin wanted to be boring? Yes, like,
Speaker 1: what if he was trying to seem boring to you
Speaker 1: on purpose? That's the weirdest reverse psychology lesson I've ever
Speaker 1: experienced that. Yeah, it's you know, I've been out what
Speaker 1: guys like Justin before, and I think that even if
Speaker 1: we tried to do something fun, he just wouldn't be fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know how else to explain it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you just find way to say. I think that he's
Speaker 1: just a boring person in general by himself. I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really sound that nice when you say it,
Speaker 1: but yet I'm just trying to clarify. I mean, don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's fair, because Justin was trying
Speaker 1: to come across as boring during the day. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He was trying to set up boring activities and see
Speaker 1: if they could still connect. He wasn't himself trying to
Speaker 1: be boring. He was just trying to set up an
Speaker 1: environment that wasn't like over the top to see if
Speaker 1: you too could have a good time even doing the
Speaker 1: most mundane, everyday life activities. Well, I think there might
Speaker 1: be a fun person hiding deep inside of him that
Speaker 1: he's just waiting for the right moment to let out.
Speaker 1: I have missed the right moment. Yeah, I mean, Casey,
Speaker 1: would you at least let him prove to you that
Speaker 1: he can be a fun guy, because he's on the
Speaker 1: other line listening, waiting to let the fun out? Who
Speaker 1: let the putout? What are you talking about right now?
Speaker 1: He's on the line. Yeah, justin you there, I am here, Casey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm flabber gaster that you don't think that I'm
Speaker 1: a fun guy. Damn the fact? Do you think I'm boring? Me?
Speaker 1: Boring a boring person? I'm exciting, Okay, I do somethings
Speaker 1: all the time, like what justin the fine exciting for me?
Speaker 1: My guy? You know, you know, it's really really fun.
Speaker 1: Have you ever downed a couple of whiskey sours and
Speaker 1: tragedy of the alphabet backwards? Have you? Have? You? Because
Speaker 1: I have is? It's not easy, but it's fun. That
Speaker 1: sounds more like a duy stop, which is pretty much
Speaker 1: the opposite of fun. I don't even alcohol at all. Right,
Speaker 1: let's go backwards? Why not? Oh damn? Party starting right now?
Speaker 1: How do you feel it? We haven't beat this on
Speaker 1: the radio. Man, that's not fun. And that's like just
Speaker 1: some sort of weird gimmick or something that doesn't that
Speaker 1: doesn't make you sound more fun? All right, fun, you'll
Speaker 1: like backwards album that. I'm about to tell you a joke, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I got a fun a joke. Okay, Yeah, here's a
Speaker 1: great joke for you. Knock knock, really yeah, really knock.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know who's there. I want
Speaker 1: to know who's there. I'll tell you who's there. It's
Speaker 1: the interrupting cow, interrupting cow. Oh my, what are you? What?
Speaker 1: Are you a dad? Not? Yeah, I'm looking to be
Speaker 1: at some point. You gotta have some fun in order
Speaker 1: to be a dad first. So, I mean, the thing is,
Speaker 1: it does feel like Justin's got his priorities in life right.
Speaker 1: He wants to find a partner or someone that can
Speaker 1: do everyday things with him, not everyday things like fun things.
Speaker 1: I'm a fun person. I can get wild and crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go to be fun time. We're on a
Speaker 1: roller coast right now? Who jumping off? Why are you
Speaker 1: guys on with that? Okay, think of it this way, Casey,
Speaker 1: think of this. He actually called a radio station to
Speaker 1: get a second date. Now that is pretty exciting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that sounds be the funnest thing he's done
Speaker 1: so far as she's coming around. It sounds like you
Speaker 1: guys need some whiskey sours. Yeah, and you know what
Speaker 1: we're willing to pay. I don't need this hour. I
Speaker 1: just think the whisk Okay, we'll just pay for it.
Speaker 1: We'll pay for you, just whiskey for you and justin.
Speaker 1: If you're willing to go out one more time with him?
Speaker 1: What do you say? Hey, guys, I gotta interrupt here.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what happened. I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 1: I don't know where the Casey that I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: on my first date when it sounds like I'm being
Speaker 1: more fun than you now, Casey, Now you don't seem
Speaker 1: very fun. You cornered me on a radio. How much
Speaker 1: fun do you think I'm gonna have right now? I
Speaker 1: can have fun anywhere, anytime, on any radio station or
Speaker 1: any planet. I don't know what your problem is. Yeah, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't need to be mean to each other now.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you said that I was boring. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be fun here and now when I try
Speaker 1: to be fun, you don't want to be fun, and
Speaker 1: you're being a wet blanket. So I'm not even interested anymore.
Speaker 1: Date we're even going backwards on the second date update
Speaker 1: now and taking back a date. Oh Greg, can I
Speaker 1: still get the whiskies though? No, I'm sorry. We can't
Speaker 1: pay for just to give you a bunch of whisky.
Speaker 1: Send them to me, send them to the fun person.
Speaker 1: Froaking Jeffrey in the morning.