WEBVTT - Six Impossible Episodes

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tracy D. Wilson and I'm Holly Frying. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years the Holly and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, we have gotten literally hundreds and hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of requests from listeners, and maybe five percent of them

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<v Speaker 1>are requests that we get over and over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, And unfortunately a handful of those most

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<v Speaker 1>requested episodes are also ones that we can't really do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole show on. Sometimes there's just not enough information

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<v Speaker 1>available about the thing. Sometimes the information exists somewhere, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a way that we can really get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's either uh, not in a language that we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's so spread out among so many different things

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<v Speaker 1>that it would take way more time than we can

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<v Speaker 1>really put into a show that puts out two new

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in a week. Or sometimes they're just there's information,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's so far removed from primary sources that it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't feel that reliable. Occasionally we actually get emails

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<v Speaker 1>from people who kind of go, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>do an episode on this. I know the information is

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<v Speaker 1>out there, because my friend is doing his master's thesis

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and I'm just gonna go ahead and put

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<v Speaker 1>it out there. We cannot do a master's thesis level

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<v Speaker 1>of work for a podcast that comes out twice a week.

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<v Speaker 1>We would be on like a Dan Carlin hardcore history

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<v Speaker 1>kind of schedule if if that were the time that

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<v Speaker 1>we could put into every episode. So what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do today is to take six of these things that

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<v Speaker 1>are impossible to do an episode on their own, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna just run through them in one show. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is our six impossible episodes for today. So first up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about Mary Fields, who is also known

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<v Speaker 1>as Stagecoach Mary. And this is a person who a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people here about for the first time through

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<v Speaker 1>a post on Badass of the Week, which, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not familiar with that site, the language is a bit blue,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe do not google it after this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>read it allowed to an elementary school class or other

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<v Speaker 1>small children, etcetera. Here's what we do know about Stagecoach Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>She was born a slave in Tennessee in eighteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two and was owned by a family called the Dunns.

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<v Speaker 1>She had one of the Dunn's daughters Dolly basically grew

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<v Speaker 1>up together, and Mary learned to read and write while

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<v Speaker 1>she was still a slave. After slavery was abolished, she

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Toledo, Ohio with Dolly Dunn, who was going

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<v Speaker 1>there to become a nun. Dolly Dunn became known as

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Amadeus, and she eventually moved to Cascade, Montana to

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<v Speaker 1>teach at a school for Native American children. For a while,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary stayed behind in Ohio, but when Mother Amadeus became

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<v Speaker 1>extremely ill, they sent for her. Mother Amadeus eventually got better,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary stayed in Cascade. Did odd jobs around St.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter's Mission, and she basically acted as a protector for

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<v Speaker 1>the nuns. She also got a job delivering the mail

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<v Speaker 1>by stagecoach, which made her the first African American woman

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<v Speaker 1>to work delivering US mail. And we talk in our

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Parkhurst episode about what a demanding and dangerous job

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<v Speaker 1>stagecoach driving was, and Mary apparently took to it tremendously.

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<v Speaker 1>She was extremely reliable as a driver, and she developed

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<v Speaker 1>a reputation for fighting, brawling, and taking guph from absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no one. Uh There are a number of stories of

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<v Speaker 1>her knocking men out with one blow under a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of circumstances, and this is also why she wound up

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<v Speaker 1>not working for the convent anymore. Uh. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>combination of her personality and her work that earned her

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<v Speaker 1>that nickname Stagecoach Mary. Eventually she retired from stagecoach driving

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<v Speaker 1>and opened a laundry and she became a really beloved

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<v Speaker 1>figure in Cascade, which actually made her birthday a holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>And stage Coach Mary died in nineteen fourteen. She was

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<v Speaker 1>eighty two at the time, and she is buried just

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<v Speaker 1>outside Cascade, Montana. In terms of information about her, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a children's book about her, as well as a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>called Discovering Mary, and that's by a woman named Joyce Fitzpatrick.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the film itself, but she talks about

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<v Speaker 1>picking up tidbits of information for years before making the film,

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<v Speaker 1>and the film itself actually started out more as a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary of her recording her own process of looking for

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<v Speaker 1>more information about Mary Fields. So when for People first

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<v Speaker 1>started asking us to do an episode about stage Coach Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>there was actually a crowdfunding project in the works somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>about a documentary. I'm not sure if it was this

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<v Speaker 1>documentary or a different one. But now almost two years

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<v Speaker 1>later when I went looking for it again, all traces

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<v Speaker 1>of that have vanished into the ether. So at the

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<v Speaker 1>time I was like, hey, when this documentary comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we will be able to get enough to do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole episode on this person. And it's it evaporated.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know what happens to it. So

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<v Speaker 1>if it does come out, there's alway still with possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. But next step in our impossible episodes is

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<v Speaker 1>the London beer flood. And you may remember the episode

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<v Speaker 1>in our archive about the Boston molasses flood, which was

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<v Speaker 1>back in the era of Katie and Sarah in nif

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<v Speaker 1>of that in Boston's North End ber sending a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>foot wave of molasses that ripped buildings off their foundations

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<v Speaker 1>and killed more than twenty people and also injured another

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty. So the London beer flood was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like that, except that it was beer, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was about a hundred years earlier, and it's also

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<v Speaker 1>we have a similar amount of information about it as

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<v Speaker 1>about the Boston molasses flood, except that episode on the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Molasses flood is from back when the podcast was

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<v Speaker 1>only fifteen minutes long. Yeah, there was a lot us

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<v Speaker 1>flushing out of all of the details at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for the London beer flood. On October seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen fourteen, a three story tall beer vat of fermenting

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<v Speaker 1>beer broke at a brewery and unleashed a fifteen foot

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<v Speaker 1>high wave of porter and as the wave roared through

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<v Speaker 1>the brewery, it broke taps off other vats, which caused

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<v Speaker 1>a chain reaction that then flooded the surrounding area with beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Some sources report this having happened at the Horseshew Brewery

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<v Speaker 1>on Tottenham Court Road, and other sources say it was

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<v Speaker 1>the Mrs Henry mu and Company on Bainbridge Street. So

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of solve that mystery, those two streets intersect

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<v Speaker 1>with each other, uh And the second the Mew Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>bought the brewery in eighteen forty one, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of two different ways of describing the same brewery.

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<v Speaker 1>And eight people were killed in the beer flood and

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<v Speaker 1>many buildings were destroyed. There was no drainage in the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>so the beer basically had nowhere to go except through

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<v Speaker 1>people's homes, so it just went right into them and

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<v Speaker 1>right through them. And two of those people that were

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<v Speaker 1>killed for a mother and daughter who were having tea

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<v Speaker 1>in their home and then were swept away. Five more

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<v Speaker 1>were a family who had been killed in their basement

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<v Speaker 1>while they were in the process of mourning their two

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<v Speaker 1>year old child who had just died. A brick wall

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<v Speaker 1>collapsed and killed another woman named Eleanor Cooper. There was

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<v Speaker 1>an inquest after has happened. One of the hoops holding

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<v Speaker 1>the vat together had actually broken and slipped off earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, but apparently this wasn't a really unusual occurrence.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened sometimes and they would go and fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>When George Crick, who was a seventeen year employee of

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<v Speaker 1>the brewery, reported the incident to his boss, he was

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<v Speaker 1>told that it would not be a problem and he

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<v Speaker 1>was instructed to delegate replacing the hoop to a different employee.

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<v Speaker 1>The inquest determined that this was an act of God

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<v Speaker 1>and the brewery was cleared of all around doing. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no restitutions paid, and actually the taxes is that

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<v Speaker 1>the brewery had previously paid on the beer that it

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<v Speaker 1>was brewing were waived. One of the longstanding rumors about

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<v Speaker 1>this flood is that people rushed to the streets with

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<v Speaker 1>pots and pans to try to get free beer. This

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<v Speaker 1>is almost certainly false and probably stems from an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of insult the people living there, because many

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<v Speaker 1>of them were Irish. The brewery did eventually resume operations,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it closed in n one, the two hundredth

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the London Beer Flood was in and at

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<v Speaker 1>that point there was this just huge number of articles

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<v Speaker 1>that came out about it, and I was really hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>at that point that hey, we'll have enough information to

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<v Speaker 1>do a whole episode now, But all the articles basically

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<v Speaker 1>said the facts that we just told you. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of additional information that came out around the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundredth anniversary. So the middle part of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is going to cover two subjects that have brought on

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<v Speaker 1>a load of request, but they are really really difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to substantially. So before we dive into those, Tracy, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to pause for a word from a sponsor, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do that, alrighty. We've gotten several requests to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Edward more Drake, and we got a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>after he was a character in the most recent season

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<v Speaker 1>of American Horror Story. But if you take all the

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly out of Edward Mordraake story, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of words left in it. So what we do know

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly is that Edward Murderke was the son of an

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<v Speaker 1>upper class or noble family in England, and he's said

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<v Speaker 1>to have been rather a good looking man, except for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he had a second face on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of his head. The most lengthy documentation we have

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<v Speaker 1>of this is from Curiosities of Medicine, being an encyclopedic

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<v Speaker 1>collection of rare and extraordinary cases and the most striking

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<v Speaker 1>instances of abnormality in all branches of medicine and surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>derived from an exhaustive research of medical literature from its

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<v Speaker 1>origin to the present day, abstracted, classified, annotated, and indexed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is by George M. Gould and Walter L. Pyle,

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<v Speaker 1>and that came out at about eighteen nineties six. So

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<v Speaker 1>that entry goes. The following well known story of Edward Mordrake,

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<v Speaker 1>though taken from lay sources, is of sufficient notoriety and

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<v Speaker 1>interest to be mentioned here. Quote one of the weirdest

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<v Speaker 1>as well as most melancholy stories of human deformity, is

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<v Speaker 1>that of Edward mor Drake, said to have been heir

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the noblest peerages in England. He never

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<v Speaker 1>claimed the title, however, and committed suicide in his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>third year. He lived in complete seclusion, refusing the visits

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<v Speaker 1>even of the members of his own family. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a young man of fine attainments, a profound scholar, and

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<v Speaker 1>a musician of rare ability. His figure was remarkable for

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<v Speaker 1>its grace and his face. That is to say, his

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<v Speaker 1>natural faith was that of an antinous But upon the

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<v Speaker 1>back of his head was another faith, that of a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful girl, lovely as a dream, hideous as a devil.

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<v Speaker 1>The female face was a mere mask, occupying only a

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<v Speaker 1>small portion of the posterior part of the skull, yet

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<v Speaker 1>exhibiting every sign of intelligence of a malignant sort. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be seen to smile and sneer while more

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<v Speaker 1>Drake was weeping. The eyes would follow the movements of

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<v Speaker 1>the spectator, and the lips would jibber without ceasing. No

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<v Speaker 1>voice was audible, but more Drake aversed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>kept from his rest at night by the hateful whispers

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<v Speaker 1>of his devil twin, as he called it, which never sleeps,

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<v Speaker 1>but talks to me forever of such things as they

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<v Speaker 1>only speak of in hell. No imagination can conceive the

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<v Speaker 1>dreadful temptations it sets before me, for some unforgiven wickedness

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<v Speaker 1>of my forefathers. I am knit to this fiend. For

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<v Speaker 1>a fiend it surely is. I beg and beseech you

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<v Speaker 1>to crush it out of human semblance, even if I

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<v Speaker 1>die for it. Such were the words of the hapless

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<v Speaker 1>more Drake to man version treadwill has physicians. In spite

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<v Speaker 1>of careful watching, he managed to procure poison whereof he died,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving a letter requesting that the demon face might be

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed before his burial quote lest it continues, it's dreadful

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<v Speaker 1>whisperings in my grave. At his own request, he was

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<v Speaker 1>interred in a waste place, without stone or legend to

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<v Speaker 1>mark his grave. And we wanted to point out that

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<v Speaker 1>there are variations on spelling. So if you go look

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<v Speaker 1>at this, this is a transcription uh in. In this

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<v Speaker 1>particular one that we read, they leave the R out

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<v Speaker 1>of more drake, so it's more dick. So you may

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<v Speaker 1>see it either way. If you go looking like it

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<v Speaker 1>show notes or whatnot. So, Uh, there are a number

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<v Speaker 1>of conditions that can cause someone's who appear to have

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<v Speaker 1>a second face or like remnants of facial structures. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but what these two doctors, they were really doctors, the

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<v Speaker 1>guys he writes this book. Uh, what they are reporting

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<v Speaker 1>is something that this guy supposedly said to two different physicians,

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<v Speaker 1>and it all sounds the tone is more like rumor

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<v Speaker 1>than actual medical evidence. The whole thing goes into like

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<v Speaker 1>the probably apocryphal category. There's just not there's no real documentation.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very convenient that he says he was buried

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<v Speaker 1>with no stone or no marker, Like we have no

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<v Speaker 1>way to prove that this person ever actually existed because

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<v Speaker 1>all we have to go on is this third party account. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's such a compelling story and I know people

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<v Speaker 1>love it, but it also when you kind of break

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<v Speaker 1>it down, it reads like a checklist of all of

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<v Speaker 1>the the vital elements of any sort of juicy, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's you can't substantiate it, and the details are baked

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<v Speaker 1>into the story that you can't substantiate it, Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>and he will never be found because he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be found. It was grave is unmarked, and no,

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<v Speaker 1>his doctors told us, but we don't really know those doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's all, yeah, it's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Our next story is similarly a story that people really

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<v Speaker 1>really love a whole lot. But we've gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of requests for a lot of them come in around Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>but they come in through the rest of the year also,

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<v Speaker 1>And these are for Robert the Haunted Doll, who is

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes also called Robert the Enchanted Doll, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>words of the Key West Art and Historical Society quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert is a one of a kind, handmade doll created

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<v Speaker 1>around the turn of the twentieth century, standing forty inches

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<v Speaker 1>tall and stuffed with woodwool known as Excelsior. He is

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in a sailor suit at once for painted features

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<v Speaker 1>not unlike those of a jester. So, just to be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty upfront, this thing looks creepy. Um. The paint is

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<v Speaker 1>worn off of its face, so it has creepy flat

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<v Speaker 1>black eyes, and the nose and mouth are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to define from the rest of the face. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got this wooden head that's also got some pitting in it,

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<v Speaker 1>so the whole thing is a little bit unsettling and

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<v Speaker 1>unnerving to behold. Yeah, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>find old dolls creepy. This is a very old doll,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it has this creepy story to go along

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Robert was a gift given to a little

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<v Speaker 1>boy named Robert Eugene Otto, who later became known as

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<v Speaker 1>Gene rather than Robert, and it was given to him

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<v Speaker 1>when he was four years old. This was in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o four, and it's a little There are different accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of exactly who gave it to him. The original origin

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<v Speaker 1>and all the stories as the Bahamas, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite clear whether it was the maid who was from

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<v Speaker 1>the Bahamas or if it was the maid's daughter, because

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<v Speaker 1>some people report that it was a little girl. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>the doll is about the same size as Jean himself

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<v Speaker 1>was at the time, and Jeane named the doll Robert

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<v Speaker 1>after himself. Jean also gave Robert his own room in

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<v Speaker 1>the attic with his own toys, and he eventually started

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<v Speaker 1>blaming this doll for his own misbehavior. Eventually, Robert took

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<v Speaker 1>the blame for anything unwelcome that happened to Jeane, and

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. Other people who were not Jeane started

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<v Speaker 1>reporting weird things about the doll. People looking through the

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<v Speaker 1>window from the street said that they would see it

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<v Speaker 1>move from one side of the attic turret to another.

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<v Speaker 1>People inside the house said that they could hear it

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<v Speaker 1>walking around and giggling above them while they were downstairs,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people even said that they saw the doll

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<v Speaker 1>the dolls expression change as though it was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>their conversations. Jean eventually became an artist, you know. He

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<v Speaker 1>grew up, and he married, and his wife is reported

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<v Speaker 1>to have hated the doll and demanded that it be

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<v Speaker 1>locked in a chest. Eventually, after both Jean and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife died, their home was made into the Artist House Hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Reuter, who bought the home in nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 1>donated the doll to the East Martello Museum twenty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and the doll was on display at the museum, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an old fort, and the doll also has its

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<v Speaker 1>bear with him. Museum staff reported that dirty cameras and

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<v Speaker 1>other electronics often failed around the doll. Museum patrons have

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<v Speaker 1>written him letters of apology after taking his photograph without

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<v Speaker 1>having permission, and then they would experience bad luck later.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this sounds pretty underwhelming, considering that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the blog posts that you find about Robert uh

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<v Speaker 1>describe the doll as evil or possessed or the most

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<v Speaker 1>haunted doll in history. Those kinds of posts aren't generally

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<v Speaker 1>those sorts of things we can use as sources for

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. And what we do know about the doll

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<v Speaker 1>for sure is that it's a doll, and it creeps

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<v Speaker 1>people out. And I will admit that, I though I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still a little nervous talking about Robert without his permission,

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<v Speaker 1>Really I hope nothing bad befalls us. That sort of

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<v Speaker 1>makes me chuckle, because usually I'm the more superstitious of

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us, and I don't have it for

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Well, ghost stories scare me, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>would follow myself generally skeptical about such things. Interesting, we've

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<v Speaker 1>all learned a little about Tracy today before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the next two stories that are particularly wacky. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take another word from a sponsor to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to our last two impossible episodes? These are

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<v Speaker 1>also hard to substantiate, but they're not nearly as paranormal

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<v Speaker 1>in their origin as the two that we had before

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<v Speaker 1>the break. We're going to start first with the lost

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<v Speaker 1>Army of camp by Ses. And this actually was a

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<v Speaker 1>really welcome suggestion the first time that we got it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had been looking for some interesting ancient history

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Uh, and so I got this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was very excited. And then as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>looked into it, I went, that's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Greek historian Herodotus wrote about camp by Ses to sending

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<v Speaker 1>an army of fifty thousand soldiers on a mission to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the Oracle of Ammon. And this is the same

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<v Speaker 1>oracle that Alexander the Great later visited. He did that

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<v Speaker 1>in the year three thirty two BC. After this visit,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander the Great reportedly started to think of himself as

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun of Ammon. And this particular event purportedly happened

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<v Speaker 1>almost two hundred years prior to Alexander's visit. The oracle

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<v Speaker 1>had refused to recognize Cambyses as sovereign over Egypt, so

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<v Speaker 1>Cambyses sent an army out from Thieves to the oasis

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<v Speaker 1>of Siwah, where the Temple of Ammon was located, to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the oracle. But the army never arrived. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Herodotus had to say about that. As for those

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<v Speaker 1>who were sent to march against the Ammonians, as they

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<v Speaker 1>set out and journeyed from thieves with guides, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is known that they came to the city of Oasis,

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<v Speaker 1>inhabited by the Samians, said to be of the Ascreonian tribe,

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<v Speaker 1>seven days march from Thebes across sandy desert. This place

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<v Speaker 1>is called in the Greek language Islands of the Blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus far it is said the army came after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for the Ammonians themselves and those who heard from them,

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<v Speaker 1>no man can say anything of them, for they neither

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<v Speaker 1>reached the Ammonians nor were turned back. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the Ammonians themselves say that when Persians were crossing

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<v Speaker 1>the sand from Oasis, probably the oasis of Carga, to

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<v Speaker 1>attack them, and we're about midway between their country and oasis.

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<v Speaker 1>While they were breakfasting, a great and violent south wind arose,

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<v Speaker 1>which buried them in the masses of sand which it bore,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they disappeared from sight. Such is the Ammonian

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<v Speaker 1>tail of this army. And that's most of all we

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<v Speaker 1>know about it a sandstorm buried in army, maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of historians think the whole thing is completely apocryphal.

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<v Speaker 1>Every once in a while, researchers will find in scare

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<v Speaker 1>quotes the army. Usually what they have found is some

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<v Speaker 1>shards of pottery and some bones. Some of these finds

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<v Speaker 1>are outright hoaxes, and others have been a little more substantive,

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<v Speaker 1>like there really is pottery and there really are bones,

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<v Speaker 1>but often they're The research itself is still questionable in

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<v Speaker 1>some way, like people have gone and done they're searching

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<v Speaker 1>without actually getting permission to be in Egypt in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, and then they've presented findings as a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>film rather than through the typical channels that you announce

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<v Speaker 1>academic findings, like through a journal that is subject to

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<v Speaker 1>peer review. Lastly on our list of six impossible episodes

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<v Speaker 1>is Julie Darbignen. We get a lot of request for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's portrayed as a swashbuckling, cross dressing bisexual opera singer

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<v Speaker 1>with romantic adventures to rival Casanova's, which is pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of the most lots of the more recent requests

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<v Speaker 1>are also accompanied with a link to the post that

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<v Speaker 1>was written about her at the Rejected Princess's blog. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a snippet of her entry in Curiosities of Biography or

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<v Speaker 1>Memoirs of Wonderful and Extraordinary Characters, which came out in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen forty five. This female, who acquired extraordinary celebrity as

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<v Speaker 1>a singer in France in the seventeenth century, was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the numerous instances in which a stage heroin, fortified

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<v Speaker 1>by public favor and presuming on the magic of a

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<v Speaker 1>melodious voice, defied the laws and institutions of a country

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<v Speaker 1>by which she was supported, and committed with impunity, crimes

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<v Speaker 1>which would have doomed a common unaccomplished desperado an ignominious death.

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<v Speaker 1>This romantic and indecorous adventurer, who dressed, fought and made love,

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<v Speaker 1>and conquered like a man, having been married at an

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<v Speaker 1>early age. Fortunately for her husband, Monsieur Manpaq, quitted him

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<v Speaker 1>a few months after their nuptials for the superior attractions

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<v Speaker 1>of a fencing master, a weapon which she afterwards handled

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<v Speaker 1>with destructive dexterity against many antagonists. While today's accounts of

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<v Speaker 1>her tend to talk about her escapades pretty gleefully. Earlier

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<v Speaker 1>retellings are unsurprisingly a bit less glowing. In this particular,

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<v Speaker 1>her account goes on to describe her wooing a young

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<v Speaker 1>lady and then when that young lady had second thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>burning down her house which is where Lampin was staying,

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<v Speaker 1>abducting her, and then holding her captive until they were discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>The trouble with an episode on Lama Pan is that

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<v Speaker 1>even the accounts of her from that time that she lived,

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<v Speaker 1>which was roughly sixteen seventy to seventeen o seven, really

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<v Speaker 1>read a lot more like rumor than a factual account.

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<v Speaker 1>And while there are a couple of thorough looking blog

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<v Speaker 1>posts about her, some of them are quite lengthy. Mostly

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<v Speaker 1>they are sourced in kind of bits and pieces from introductions,

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<v Speaker 1>footnotes and asides and other works. There's at least one

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<v Speaker 1>novel about her. But we can't use fiction as a

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<v Speaker 1>source for our history podcast because history and fiction are

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<v Speaker 1>two different things sort of. I mean, you could make

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<v Speaker 1>an argument that all history is in some way fictitious,

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<v Speaker 1>but a novel is not a source that we could

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<v Speaker 1>use about someone's life. Yeah, since novels really generally make

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<v Speaker 1>no assertion of historical accuracy, like they're not held to

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<v Speaker 1>that same standard. It's just not a viable source to use.

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<v Speaker 1>You can mention it. We've mentioned it in other episodes

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<v Speaker 1>where we go there's just novel about it, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>just interesting info that may or may not be true,

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<v Speaker 1>But we can't really use it as a primary source. No,

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<v Speaker 1>unless we're unless our episode is about the person who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the novel, then it's totally is relevant and absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no shade to rejected Princesses in that assessment, Like rejected

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<v Speaker 1>Princesses is awesome. I love that blog, but for our purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a little bit you were layers of according

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<v Speaker 1>to so and so between us and the subject before

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<v Speaker 1>we can really talk about it really well. Um, we

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.959
<v Speaker 1>get so many episodes, are so many requests about her.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like, I love her, she sounds awesome, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound awesome? You should do an episode on her. Sounds awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, she does sound awesome, sounds super awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>She sounds super awesome. Uh, but I I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really build a podcast episode on a blog

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<v Speaker 1>post that is sourcing footnotes of other books that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't go and read for myself. For various reasons. So

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<v Speaker 1>those are six things that we get requests for all

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<v Speaker 1>the time but are impossible to do. Hold up the

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<v Speaker 1>whole episodes on at least at this point. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully this gave you a little bit of satisfaction those

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<v Speaker 1>of you that are yearning for those episodes, I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also have some listener mails to send. This

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<v Speaker 1>message is from Ethan. Ethan says, I thought you might

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in the following bit of info about the

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<v Speaker 1>Iroquois Theater fire. Architect Louis Gonzil investigated the Iroquois Theater

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<v Speaker 1>fire and was granted full access to the site beginning

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<v Speaker 1>the morning after the tragedy. Since he found it quote

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to obtain plans or specifications of the structure, he

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<v Speaker 1>measured the building, reconstructed the plans, and photographed various sections

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<v Speaker 1>of the theater. This took weeks and his inspection was exhaustive.

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<v Speaker 1>His findings were dated January twentieth, nineteen o four. Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzelle attended the court proceedings following the disaster and quote

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<v Speaker 1>was greatly surprised to see that, notwithstanding the many faults

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<v Speaker 1>and defects in the planning of the theater and the

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<v Speaker 1>unparalleled negligence displayed in its supervision and operation. All of

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<v Speaker 1>the suits ended in verdicts not guilty. His paper was

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<v Speaker 1>never meant for publication, but after years of discussions with

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<v Speaker 1>eyewitnesses and conversations at memorial meetings, he concluded that quote

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<v Speaker 1>actual conditions prevalent in the theater at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the fire have been maliciously withheld from the public by

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<v Speaker 1>clever and successful manipulation. He published his paper in ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Theater Historical Society of America republished it in

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<v Speaker 1>booklet form. In Anyone looking for details about how the

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy reached the proportions it did should look for this

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<v Speaker 1>booklet or contact the Theater Historical Society. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>of my sources quoted from the booklet, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>not personally read the booklet myself, So I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's a thing you can still get your

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<v Speaker 1>hands on looking for more information about that. So thank you, Ethan.

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