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Speaker 1: What's up.

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Speaker 2: It's Way for Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and Jasmine

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Speaker 2: from the Jasmine brand is here with me. Yes, of course,

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Speaker 2: and we have two amazing guests with us, and these

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Speaker 2: are the first for Way. I mean, we're a new show,

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Speaker 2: so we're still getting our imprint. But Ryan Kougler is

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Speaker 2: here and Eric is here. Thank you guys so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us, Thanks for having us. And you know,

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Speaker 2: me and Jasmine we partner on a lot of different things,

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Speaker 2: and I want to talk about you guys and the

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Speaker 2: partnership that you have with this documentary. Steph Stephen Curry Underrated, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I co founded Unanimous with Stephan

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Speaker 4: and you know this doc came about just through one

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Speaker 4: of our development meetings. You know, you know, with company

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Speaker 4: has been around for about five years and you know,

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Speaker 4: the idea around the company is really grounded and inspiration.

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Speaker 4: And but when we sit down with with sc you know,

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Speaker 4: we're going through the full slate and we're looking at

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Speaker 4: all the projects and he's given his insight. I'm giving

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Speaker 4: my insight, but also it's a chance for me to

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Speaker 4: pitch some stories about his life, right, and so.

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Speaker 2: He feels like he's so like not wanting to, you know,

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Speaker 2: shine the light on himself, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: That's very true, very true, very true. It's always very

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Speaker 4: strategic on what. He doesn't want to take the light

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Speaker 4: from anybody. Really, he thinks his is it's and it's

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Speaker 4: true he's there to amplify.

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Speaker 3: He wants to amplify other people's stories.

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Speaker 4: But for this one, you know, I pitched him the

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Speaker 4: idea of the Davidson Run and he sat back and

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Speaker 4: he thought about it.

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Speaker 3: He's like, it's been enough time.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's been you know, ten fifteen years since

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Speaker 4: since since since the run, and he was like, you know,

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Speaker 4: and I was thinking about graduating. And so then it

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Speaker 4: was like, oh, well this is this is a real story.

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Speaker 4: And then when I called I called Ryan and then

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Speaker 4: he got excited about I was like, oh we got

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Speaker 4: some momentum, man, And so that's.

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Speaker 3: What turned that down. Okay, absolutely that.

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Speaker 2: Was very strategic, and just for clarity, because I also

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Speaker 2: want you guys to clear this up because the strike

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Speaker 2: is going on now. But this is a nonfiction work,

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Speaker 2: so I know people will be watching, Like, but I thought,

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Speaker 2: y'all not supposed to be doing interviews but just to

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Speaker 2: want to make sure we clear that up to Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm a.

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Speaker 5: Member of the w g A.

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Speaker 6: In my my union is is uh you know, obviously

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Speaker 6: it's been coming up on eighty days. I want to

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Speaker 6: a real real labor dispee out there and inside recently

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Speaker 6: A generator work. This is non fiction and operations outside

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Speaker 6: of that. So thankfully I can you know, talk about this.

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Speaker 6: This this beautiful movie that we made, you know, and

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Speaker 6: uh like you know, similar to similar to ep approximately media.

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Speaker 6: We started some years back, you know, we talked about

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Speaker 6: our friends SHACKA King. We started with making Space Jam

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Speaker 6: and Judice and Black Sire back in twenty eighteen nineteen,

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Speaker 6: great friend of mine, Pete Nicks, who's the director of Underwrited,

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Speaker 6: made a couple of films, Anthem, which is out now

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Speaker 6: been fantastic. We were so excited when when when Eric

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Speaker 6: thought of us, you know, he and Steph came with

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Speaker 5: But it was a real testament to them.

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Speaker 6: As as filmmakers, as businessmen. They really thought it out

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Speaker 6: its promised that Steph Madden to his mom to finish up.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's undergraduate degree. H and Pete Nicks, you

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Speaker 6: know who I wish could be here. He's dealing with

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Speaker 6: Comes from you know, a real traditional docs uh doc

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Speaker 5: Uh their stories and.

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Speaker 6: He saw this as an extension that I with stuff,

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Speaker 6: being kind of an adopted son of Oakland.

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Speaker 7: He went to Howard, right, he did.

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Speaker 8: He did his connection with Oakland because of you and.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, he's just he just wannked up.

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Speaker 6: He wantd up moving there because he went to after

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Speaker 6: after Man Pete PE's got a really interesting story, went

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, came home and reapplied, finished up

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Speaker 6: school and went to journalism school at Cayle Barkley.

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of what brought him to the Bay.

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Speaker 6: Became a documentary filmmaker and full in love you know,

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Speaker 6: the only truma unity in Oakland.

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Speaker 5: And that's how you ended up.

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Speaker 2: That's how he ended up to figure out the documentaries

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Speaker 2: are a labor of love too, because I've always heard that,

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Speaker 2: you know, and clearly, like with somebody likes Steph Curry,

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Speaker 2: have always said they don't make a lot of money normally, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and those are important stories to be told. That's why

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Speaker 2: I always feel like it is a labor of love

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think that documentaries are a labor

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Speaker 4: be a labor of love, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know, and you know you have

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Speaker 4: When you start to get in there and you start

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Speaker 4: to get you know, you you have to fight battles

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Speaker 4: for creativity and create pathways for your writers. And as

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Speaker 4: can't get into this industry, you know, wanting to be famous.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 2: Especially with doc I feel like, sayah, documentaries are some

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Speaker 2: I remember I used to love Hoop Dreams, right, that

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Speaker 6: Comes from that school, you know, And that's that's an

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Speaker 6: interesting thing. Like with this, we didn't know what was

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I mean exactly that, Like like like

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Speaker 6: We came on board and uh and and Pete the

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Speaker 5: It is like, y'all need access, you know, I need

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Speaker 5: access to Steph's life. What's she you know?

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Speaker 6: What is he opened this and and I'm knowing this

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Speaker 6: trying to take the ways to another championship, you.

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Speaker 6: So I'm like, oh, hight Man, whin is Pete gun

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: But because he's a he's a he's a professionals been

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Speaker 6: And and Eric and Steph, you know, we're great producers,

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Speaker 6: We had no idea this dude was gonna break the

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Speaker 6: Was crazy like and watching, you know, as a producer,

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Speaker 7: The pandemic was going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, just see people with their mass you

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Speaker 2: know what else is? What else is interesting too because

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Speaker 2: If they mess up, they'll just like totally go in

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Speaker 2: has feelings, they have a family that has to hear

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Speaker 2: having followed Stephan seen like where he came from, you

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Speaker 1: Feel like, damn, why do you got to talk to him?

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there are human beings and I think we

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Speaker 2: do that a lot with celebrities too. You know, you

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Speaker 2: people that hear these things and feel a way about

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Speaker 4: Terms of that's the wonderful thing about thoughts, right, especially

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure, like not really not really, So there's nothing.

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Speaker 4: No that you can't go into a you can't go

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Speaker 2: That was so interesting to me how that coach actually

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Speaker 1: Because I still don't know what made him say put

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Speaker 7: That's what we were saying.

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Speaker 5: But but but what do you what do you say

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Speaker 6: Film is about the power of community, about the power

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Speaker 5: It's about the people who who looked at him and.

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Speaker 6: Instead of making notices about what wasn't there, you know

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Speaker 7: I was watching, I was like why why?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm so confused, But I guess this is kind

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh man, I felt so bad.

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Speaker 2: I know it must be so hard for people to

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: J was a baller too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was serving staff when first when we first

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and y'all showed that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like just out. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But you see these peaks of other people that are

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I found that really interesting, like like big Shaw

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Speaker 4: Like I think that's the thing that you know, I

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Speaker 4: He's just like he lives his life uncomfortable because he's

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Speaker 8: to me, Hervey, like what more for me?

442
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 1: You want to go work out thirty minutes.

443
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 8: And I'll be like no, Like yesterday, we walked home

444
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,159
Speaker 8: and I was like, okay, I'm not working out in

445
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 8: the more because I walked home, I noticed lately, I

446
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,640
Speaker 8: feel like there's been more of an interest of documentaries,

447
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 8: Like see people seeing documentaries. Do you think, what do

448
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 8: you why do you think that is? And how do

449
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 8: you think this this this project is going to do.

450
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Speaker 8: I mean, it is a it is about a really

451
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Speaker 8: popular player.

452
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Speaker 3: I think that I think our the Errator will do well.

453
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Speaker 4: I am I'm pretty confident in that just because of

454
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Speaker 4: the reactions have been, you know, really positive. I also,

455
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to call this my project

456
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 4: because it's a team project.

457
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Speaker 3: But I love everything that I did.

458
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you've done a lot.

459
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Speaker 3: I will say that.

460
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Speaker 4: I will say that I think I think the reason

461
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: why documentaries are getting are getting popular because the medium

462
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 4: is sort of also for people like Ryan to to

463
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 4: be able to bring in people like Peede and to

464
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 4: produce them and to sort of allow pathways for creatives.

465
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Speaker 4: That that's ultimately what sort of pushes the medium along

466
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Speaker 4: and allows a genre to sort of shift into new

467
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Speaker 4: narrative formats. And I think that's what's really happening with

468
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Speaker 4: with docs, is like you're seeing people push that forward.

469
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Speaker 4: It's not nothing wrong with Whop Dreams, nothing wrong with underrated,

470
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Speaker 4: But there's there's a ton of mediums. There's a ton

471
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Speaker 4: of ways to do docs, and I think that's what's

472
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Speaker 4: making it change, and that's what's making it more interesting. Also,

473
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 4: subjects are becoming more open to it, right, you know,

474
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 4: and becoming more trusting and there's a lot of amazing

475
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Speaker 4: stories to tell and so but Ryan probably knows more than.

476
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I just so it's you know,

477
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 5: it's so it's so it's such.

478
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Speaker 6: An interesting time with technology and where everything is going.

479
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 6: But I do think that people are definitely more comfortable

480
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Speaker 6: with with with cameras. Yeah, they have ever been, because

481
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Speaker 6: we all have them in our pockets, stay and our

482
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Speaker 6: houses on our front door.

483
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Speaker 1: People run up to you with the camera already.

484
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Speaker 5: So I think.

485
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Speaker 6: So, I think, I think, and I think people are

486
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 6: are uh with with the advent of streaming and social media,

487
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Speaker 6: people are.

488
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Speaker 5: Used to looking at real people. People are interesting, Yeah.

489
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Speaker 1: That people are more interesting than fiction.

490
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Speaker 6: Like we work hard in fiction to make fake things

491
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Speaker 6: seem real, you know what I mean?

492
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Speaker 1: Why not take these real people out here? Yeah, interesting stories.

493
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think that that and with the advantage

494
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Speaker 6: and technology, like you know, there was there was a

495
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Speaker 6: time where a documentary in in Jurassic Park. They look different,

496
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Speaker 6: like the production value, the camera works different. But now,

497
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Speaker 6: you know, technology has gotten so good, you know what

498
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Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like an episode of Chef's Table, you know,

499
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Speaker 6: look like you know, it could look as good as

500
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Speaker 6: whatever you're gonna whatever, You're gonna pay this she at

501
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 6: the box office, you know what I'm saying, maybe maybe better,

502
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Speaker 6: you know. And so I think that things are are

503
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 6: crossing over and blending in a way where people are

504
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 6: are are much more, much more open to nonfiction.

505
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Speaker 5: You know, I ever been before.

506
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Speaker 2: What do you guys, since you brought up Chefs Table,

507
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Speaker 2: what do you guys watch at home when you're just

508
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Speaker 2: relaxing and not having to work.

509
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Speaker 1: Nothing?

510
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Speaker 2: And can you watch it without a producer or Director's

511
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Speaker 2: I taking it?

512
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Speaker 6: Yes, that's such a great question. I saw I saw

513
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Speaker 6: Appenheimer last night.

514
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Speaker 1: Okay, And and.

515
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Speaker 6: You know from from our director brain and shut off,

516
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Speaker 6: something has to be really good, you know, you know

517
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like, and I'm constantly seeking out something

518
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 6: that's good enough to take me out of that mold,

519
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 6: you know, you know what I'm saying.

520
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Speaker 5: And that film was really good.

521
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 6: Big shots out the to Christian m big shots at

522
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Speaker 6: the U to lose you know what I'm saying. Composure

523
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: partner with us, that proximity in Sharena, you're understand who

524
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 6: did the violin on his wife? It's a beautiful movie

525
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 6: and it's really really good and I'm actually overwhelming and

526
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Speaker 6: I lost myself in it, you know, like like, but

527
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Speaker 6: it is it is. It is tough, you know when

528
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Speaker 6: you're working, when you work in the business, like you know,

529
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Speaker 6: you because you because you you're constantly like you're seeing

530
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Speaker 6: everything through that through that lands you wonder, I wonder

531
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Speaker 6: what camera that us? I was an interesting Yeah, maybe

532
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't have done that.

533
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but one of the first days of film school,

534
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Speaker 4: my professional told me that, like, you'll never look at

535
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Speaker 4: You'll never look at anything the same after you go

536
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Speaker 4: through film school, and it's it's it's absolutely true.

537
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Speaker 1: You know, So what do you watch?

538
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 7: Answer the question?

539
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 3: So I watch?

540
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: I watch everything, you know what I mean? The bear

541
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Speaker 4: was the thing that I was.

542
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Speaker 7: The new season.

543
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Speaker 8: I haven't watched the second. Okay, I watched the first season.

544
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Speaker 8: It's a little dark, though I'm not.

545
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 4: Very dark dark, very very heavy, beautiful. And the documentaries

546
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Speaker 4: I consume them.

547
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Speaker 3: I watched. I watched every doc.

548
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Speaker 4: But also I'm also giving notes of the things that

549
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Speaker 4: we're doing too, so that eats up a little bit

550
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Speaker 4: of time.

551
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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of bit of time.

552
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I got family man young. It's hard, it's getting hard,

553
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: it's getting hard to it's getting hard to watch.

554
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Speaker 5: I show the beer Love You Love You.

555
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Speaker 6: Maybe my favorite, maybe my favorite, maybe my favorite bit

556
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Speaker 6: of television a long time.

557
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Speaker 1: I have to watch it.

558
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Speaker 7: The first season was really good.

559
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Speaker 2: What is it on Hulu. Okay, Yeah, there's so many

560
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: streaming services. It's really hard for me to I have

561
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: so many subscriptions. I'm like, is there a way we

562
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Speaker 2: can you can.

563
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Speaker 7: Lose use my logging?

564
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Speaker 5: Okay, watch that?

565
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, yet take it out. But the bear is really good.

566
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 8: I told you that before. It's a little dark though, that's.

567
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Speaker 7: A little happy.

568
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Speaker 4: You got it, You got it. You gotta let it,

569
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Speaker 4: you gotta let it wash over you a little better.

570
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: The first first two three, especially second season, first two

571
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Speaker 4: three episodes, let it go, let go. Yeah, and then

572
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: when you hit about episode three, episode four, you in it.

573
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Speaker 5: It's really good.

574
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Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm gonna have to watch this.

575
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Speaker 2: Sorry sense everybody it in the room says that. Then

576
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: I gotta get onto it. And the last thing I

577
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: want to say, Ryan, I see you learn how to swim.

578
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: I got to learn how to swim.

579
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Speaker 8: Man.

580
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Speaker 1: Now I'm feeling really bad. How so get in that.

581
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Speaker 2: This is just a personal question, like, so what was that?

582
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Speaker 2: Because I know it's scarier as you get older and warder.

583
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Speaker 5: What help for me?

584
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, how did you know? Do you swimming lessons?

585
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Speaker 1: You said no? Like what?

586
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 8: What?

587
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Speaker 6: No?

588
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 7: What motivated you to to learn how to swim.

589
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Speaker 1: The movie movie and having kids, yeah have a kids.

590
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but but both both things that once.

591
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: But what what I what I realized it was just

592
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 6: it was just goggles like I was jumping the water

593
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 6: and I'll be able to.

594
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Speaker 1: Show your eyes.

595
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Speaker 5: I can't.

596
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Speaker 2: My problem is I can't breathe right, Like it's not natural.

597
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 2: I know, but it's not natural because you still got

598
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Speaker 2: to let it out a little.

599
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Speaker 5: You got it and then you did do it. You

600
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: got it.

601
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Speaker 7: You can swim, so like, what can what can you?

602
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 5: Can I swim? Swim?

603
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Speaker 8: What you mean by like like I was one where

604
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Speaker 8: like I can jump, float and whatever whatever. But I'm

605
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Speaker 8: not diving. I'm not going to the bottom and shame.

606
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Speaker 8: I'm just living like I'm just gonna be able to

607
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Speaker 8: make it. So I can't swim swim?

608
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Speaker 1: Can you nothing?

609
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 7: Can you swim swim?

610
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Speaker 5: I mean I'm not I'm not winning all awards, but

611
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Speaker 5: y'all can go.

612
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Speaker 1: You can dive, you can swim, Yeah, you can swim.

613
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that. It's not it's not it's not elegant.

614
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Speaker 5: You know. What we had we had for work, for

615
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Speaker 5: work from my last movie.

616
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Speaker 6: We had a twenty two foot tank, and my actors

617
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 6: would be at the would be at the bottom working,

618
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 6: so I had to get down there with them learn

619
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Speaker 6: how to you know, I had to do my job.

620
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Speaker 7: You feel me like, yeah, how long quick? How long

621
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Speaker 7: did it take you to learn how to swim? Because

622
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Speaker 7: angels listen to this.

623
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Speaker 6: Because well, the swimming port was was that that didn't

624
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: that didn't take long. But the free diving, that's the

625
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 6: part that you gotta like learn, like, you know, you

626
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 6: gotta learn how to clear your ears and and and

627
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 6: how to how to like the rules are not coming

628
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 6: up too fast, you know, you gott you don't want

629
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Speaker 6: to come up fashion your and your bubbles, okay r

630
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Speaker 6: And I was, I was, you know, I had to

631
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 6: you know, I have to learn how to do that.

632
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Speaker 2: But but all right, but I'm not directing no movies underwater,

633
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Speaker 2: so I should be fine.

634
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Speaker 6: You yeah, we get we get in there like I

635
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 6: got like I got, I got a hommie, man, I

636
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 6: got a hommy name Terrence Nash.

637
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: And I remember I was working with him and and and.

638
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: I told him I couldn't swim, and he was like,

639
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 6: he's like, y'all are planet is seventy five percent water.

640
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: You need to figure that out. Hearing that, he looked

641
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 6: at me like I was crazy. Like I was like,

642
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 6: I gotta get it together, you know what I'm saying.

643
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: And this year, every year I say that, I know,

644
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: but this year, this year for you, Okay, he looked

645
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: at me like I was crazy.

646
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: You got to figured that out, Angela Like.

647
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 6: He was like, come on, black man, He's like, yeah, yeah,

648
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: I can't be that statistic.

649
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

650
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Speaker 2: Well, thank y'all so much honestly for coming through and

651
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: taking a time, because the movie is amazing. The documentary Underrated.

652
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: It's on Apple TV, so you guys can watch it there.

653
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: When are we hearing this Friday? Thursday? So it'll be

654
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, So make sure you guys check that out.

655
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Speaker 1: I promise you.

656
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: Like it's an amazing story of it just will show

657
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: you how a lot of us feel like we're underrated,

658
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: but what are we doing to make sure that the

659
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: world sees us? And it's great to also see who

660
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: does see us, and he does pay o mys to

661
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: those people who definitely were instrumental and key in his

662
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Speaker 2: life to get him to the level where he is

663
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Speaker 2: today where he really changed the game. The first time

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Speaker 2: I ever bought stocks, my stockbroker was like, invest in

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Speaker 2: anything Steph Curry related.

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Speaker 3: That was the advice.

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Speaker 5: Advice, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the under armored thing didn't mean that was

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Speaker 2: honestly his advice. Anything Steph Curry related. Invest in that.

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Speaker 5: That's awesome, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We thank you for having Yeah, I appreciate you,

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Speaker 2: Eric Peyton, Ryan Coogler, thank you