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Speaker 1: Order up. She's a fresh show. It's Kiki's court, all right.

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Speaker 1: The honorable is here, Judge Kiky take it away.

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Speaker 2: Bad at him. It just hits so good on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. All right, let's get into this courtroom. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna hit this gavel, it says Keiki. For the last

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Speaker 2: seven years, I've been trying to climb the corporate ladder,

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Speaker 2: and honestly, I'm over it. I've been with my company

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Speaker 2: seven years, and I worked hard to do my very

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Speaker 2: I've gotten great reviews, made bonuses, and all the things

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Speaker 2: in my current position. However, my boss announced a few

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Speaker 2: weeks ago that she would be leaving to be a

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Speaker 2: stay at home mom, so I immediately applied for her position. Well,

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Speaker 2: my co worker also applied for the position, but I

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Speaker 2: wasn't worried because I've been with the company longer. I

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Speaker 2: have a master's degree and she doesn't, and in the past,

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Speaker 2: she's threatened to leave the company multiple times, and I've

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Speaker 2: always been very, very loyal. Well, to my surprise, my

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Speaker 2: went to upper management to plead my case, and I

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Speaker 2: was shocked to learn that she told them that she

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Speaker 2: fact that that is a lie. When I confronted her,

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Speaker 2: she admitted to lying about the degree to get the position,

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Speaker 2: and she told me, girl, don't be mad, it's the

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Speaker 2: corporate way. I also found out that she's been having

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Speaker 2: an affair with one of our corporate leaders, Kei Key.

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Speaker 2: I have an email typed out sitting in my draft

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Speaker 2: folder ready to expose her to the entire management team.

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Speaker 1: Should I send it? Oh my lord, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. Her name is Kara, Kara. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna tell you this, girl, I would not send the email.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I would not send the

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Speaker 2: email because what I think about the situations like this

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Speaker 2: is it's just not for you. The position is just

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Speaker 2: not for you. There is something better out there for you,

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Speaker 2: and you will get it. Just keep being a stand

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Speaker 2: trust me, girl. Yeah, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: I know it's not fair, but my gut tells me

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Speaker 3: because I've been in a similar situation, not necessarily with

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Speaker 3: the education piece, but where people are sleeping with other

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I feel like that's usually

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Speaker 3: not one that works in your favor, and it's unfair.

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Speaker 3: But my thing would be stick out your gig as

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Speaker 3: to do whatever it takes to cover for themselves. And

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Speaker 3: then now we're lying about education, and then let's say

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Speaker 3: that is also some inappropriate relationships involved. I feel like

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Speaker 2: Right, And I feel like sometimes we get attached to

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Speaker 2: so then we deserve. But if a company or any

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Speaker 2: you have other.

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Speaker 1: Options, and that is to prepare yourself to leave.

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Speaker 2: So I would not send the email because that's going

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Speaker 2: to get crazy, but I would leave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It sucks when the person who's in the right somehow

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Speaker 3: gets painted as the troublemaker, right, yes, yes, but I

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I don't think it's fair, But

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Speaker 3: one I have now. Don't burn the bridge until you

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Speaker 3: people are gonna argue that's not fair. It's not fair.

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Speaker 3: It isn't fair. But causing a big stink, depending on

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Speaker 1: And even if you are right, Yeah, she shouldn't leave,

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Speaker 4: She's got blackmail on this woman and she's so she

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Speaker 4: should just you know, like hold it against this lady.

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Speaker 1: She won't be doing any work anymore. You know what

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Speaker 4: She's got the easy path to doing nothing and getting

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Speaker 1: So you say, just sit in your job, don't do anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and get paid and be like, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: So basically play their game and say, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to expose you, Like either I'm gonna be lazy

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Speaker 1: To expose you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that works, honestly, that that just seems

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Speaker 3: like it it's gonna blow up in her face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what world does that work? Because like now the

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Speaker 1: Her, That's what I'm saying, Well, what is she going

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Speaker 4: She's got she needs to have some kind of uh,

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Speaker 2: Well, clearly she's a liar, So I'm sure it won't

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Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna fire me, then I'm gonna just expose

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of layers here, so there are at

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: No, well pun intended because you've got because you got

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Speaker 3: the person who lied to get ahead and to sort

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Speaker 3: of leapfrog you. Then apparently this person you're saying might

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Speaker 3: got that person involved. Now, so you got two people

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Speaker 3: that outrank you. And again not saying this is fair,

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Speaker 3: this is not a battle you want to wage. You

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Speaker 3: may as well just say, you know what, this is

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Speaker 3: and go get another job. But see Angelus eight five

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think she should totally send the email because I

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Speaker 3: find it so messed up to lie.

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Speaker 1: About having a degree.

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Speaker 5: As someone who is also working in micromanage corporate America,

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Speaker 5: to lie about it is a whole new ballpark.

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Speaker 1: So I think that she should totally sund the email.

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Speaker 5: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 6: I would expose her to.

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Speaker 3: Like, if she's getting with the decision maker, then it's

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Speaker 3: unlikely that it will wind up being fair. It hasn't

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Speaker 3: been fair the whole time. Why would it be fair now,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Just like it's not good,

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Speaker 3: but it's not legal.

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Speaker 5: It might humble her a little bit, like even though

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Speaker 5: that she lied about it, but not the company. It's

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Speaker 5: like not a good look.

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Speaker 6: I see what if they all got together and they're

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Speaker 6: having a little like you know, like a little lunch

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Speaker 6: all pull out our master's degrees and sucking with other.

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Speaker 3: Yea, because I'm always carrying her out POGs diploma. I'm

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Speaker 3: always pulling it out at like you want to see

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Speaker 3: my diploma of yours, I'll show you up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. This isn't going to be fair.

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Speaker 3: I don't think any part of this is fair. There's

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Speaker 3: so many layers of unfairness. I don't know why, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I hate to agree, like with the crazy girl,

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Speaker 2: but like it is the corporate way. You're not gonna

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like she's going to win this. You

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Speaker 2: exposes it out to them. She's just like the corporate

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Speaker 2: way is honesty.

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Speaker 1: So send the email. I mean, I don't know about that, Angela,

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Speaker 1: thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 3: Let me see her corporate HR here, send the email.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the company has a quid pro quo policy.

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Speaker 3: There's an integrity issue in upper management. Yeah, there is no.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, no one here is saying that like

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Speaker 3: or that she should you people should be lying about

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Speaker 3: their education or sleeping with their bosses or whatever. But again,

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Speaker 3: and you want to go up against all that because

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Speaker 3: I don't know that you win. And again, is that fair?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: But I mean just go, I say, go, get another job.

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Speaker 3: Don't just don't burn this one down yet. Maybe start

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Speaker 3: looking for a place where you're more valued. Heather, Hi, good.

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Speaker 1: Morning, good morning, bred Hey, good morning. What do you

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Speaker 5: I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying.

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Speaker 5: I think that not rucio by the way, what.

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Speaker 3: The wild outlier opinions back from a fraternity leaders. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what sort of elaborate scheame he's coming up

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Speaker 3: with a lot of tell her that you're going to

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Speaker 3: do this, or that I didn't think it's blackmailers, and

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Speaker 3: then tell her, yeah, hold her hostage in the base.

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Speaker 3: They tell her, you're not going to work and until

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Speaker 3: that what I'm coming into work today? What do you

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Speaker 3: but what do you think she should do?

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Speaker 1: Heather?

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Speaker 5: I think she needs to send that email to HR

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Speaker 5: and also start looking for another job. But she needs

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Speaker 5: she does need to be exposed, not to the entire

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Speaker 5: management team, but she needs to be exposed. HI needs

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Speaker 5: to know that this girl just lied to get this position.

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Speaker 5: But don't send it to the home management team because

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Speaker 5: that's a churchher way out the door without any respect.

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Speaker 3: See But Heather, I've been in this situation where I

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Speaker 3: my boss was sleeping with a coworker of mine and

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Speaker 3: I knew it and a lot of other people knew

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Speaker 3: it too, but no one really said anything and management

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Speaker 3: denied the whole thing until one day he got caught.

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Speaker 3: They got caught, They both got fired. But like it,

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Speaker 3: almost I almost lost my job putting up a fight

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Speaker 3: that's bad, and then here we are. So there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of risk. There's a lot of risk, and not

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Speaker 3: that there should be, but there's a lot of risk

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Speaker 3: in stepping up to these people and trying to get

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Speaker 3: them to be honest because they're they're gonna lie for

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Speaker 3: themselves first.

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Speaker 5: They are, and that's that's definitely something she'd have to

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Speaker 5: deal with. But I think, you know, that's why she

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Speaker 5: also needs to be looking for another job. She needs

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Speaker 5: to be looking for and it's I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 5: depends on the side of the company and what that

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Speaker 5: HR team really looks like, but they should be looking

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Speaker 5: out or and doing an investigation. If they get her

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Speaker 5: on her lying about her degree, then she doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 5: have to talk about the sleeping to the top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that is true. Yeah, thank you, Heather,

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Speaker 1: have a good day.

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Speaker 5: Thank you too much.

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Speaker 1: I love you too.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people on the text team to agree

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Speaker 3: that it's it's it's not about well, one person says,

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Speaker 3: not about winning. It's about exposing I guess. But everyone

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Speaker 3: else is in get another job and then blow them up. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I feel like you have the key. Is the key

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Speaker 3: thing here, girl is get another job. I know you

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Speaker 3: have been loyal for seven years to this company. I

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Speaker 3: know you probably enjoy your work. You want to grow there,

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Speaker 3: but if they are not in a position to value you, you.

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Speaker 1: Have to leave. Yeah yeah, yeah, thanks you too. Blackmail First, Oh,

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Speaker 1: look at this guy. Let me look at this guy.

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Speaker 1: A fresh show is on